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"Build Me Up, Break Me Down" is the "You Not Me" of ADTOE

Started by SnakeEyes, October 02, 2011, 07:02:31 PM

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SnakeEyes

In fact, I think I like "You Not Me" more. 

added:

I just think it's a really pointless song.  Musically, it goes nowhere.  Melodically, it's not interesting at all.  The instrumental parts don't add anything to the song.  The riffs are boring....  the rest of the songs are genius and this song doesn't deserve to be on the same album.  It sounds like a Train of Thought demo that didn't make it or something.  I really hate it.  But, it's all opinion, like I said. 

FlyingBIZKIT


Jamesman42

\o\ lol /o/

Super Dude

Quote from: FlyingBIZKIT on October 02, 2011, 07:03:08 PM
Build Me Up, Break Me Down >>>>>>>> You Not Me

Oh yes.  BMUBMD is so jammable, I can't get enough of it.
:superdude:


Heretic


YtseCullen

Build Me Up, Break Me Down is in at least the top 15 DT songs for me, so i disagree there, when BMUBMD came on at the concert I was ecstatic, such an awesome tune to get into at the concert, it was either my favourite at the show or tied for my favourite at the show with Bridges in the Sky And Breaking All Illusions

SnakeEyes

It's all opinion.  You guys aren't wrong, I'm not wrong.  It's all opinion. 

edit..

I just think it's a really pointless song.  Musically, it goes nowhere.  Melodically, it's not interesting at all.  The instrumental parts don't add anything to the song.  The riffs are boring....  the rest of the songs are genius and this song doesn't deserve to be on the same album.  It sounds like a Train of Thought demo that didn't make it or something.  I really hate it.  But, it's all opinion, like I said. 

Liberation

And what exactly makes it bad? It not being prog? It being an actual [gasp] straightforward song? And worse, having a CATCHY CHORUS?! God forbid, BURN IT ON A STAKE.

Either elaborate and explain what supposedly makes it so bad (as I know what's the common opinion on You Not Me), or think more before creating a thread like this because it's lame to say the least. It's one of the best single-like songs they've ever written, with some really nice riffs, amazing vocals, and a great dramatic atmosphere (made mostly by the string effects etc.).

SnakeEyes

Quote from: Liberation on October 02, 2011, 07:07:52 PM
Either elaborate and explain what supposedly makes it so bad (as I know what's the common opinion on You Not Me), or think more before creating a thread like this because it's lame to say the least. It's one of the best single-like songs they've ever written, with some really nice riffs, amazing vocals, and a great dramatic atmosphere (made mostly by the string effects etc.).

LOL .... stop it.  Read my last post - I edited it. 

Liberation

Ok... I disagree entirely but now it's actually an opinion and not song-bashing. Would have been better if you simply put than in the OP.

Syzzle

BMUBMD is the weakest song on ADTOE, but it's still alot better than You Not Me.

SnakeEyes

Liberation:

True.  I apologize.  I will add it to the original post.  I actually thought a lot of people agreed with me, so I didn't feel the need to explain a whole lot.  But, I guess I was wrong.  :lol

ibosmiley

I don't see why "straightforward and not a 10 minute progfest" seems to automatically imply weak.  I like the song personally.

Liberation

Quote from: SnakeEyes on October 02, 2011, 07:17:20 PM
Liberation:

True.  I apologize.  I will add it to the original post.  I actually thought a lot of people agreed with me, so I didn't feel the need to explain a whole lot.  But, I guess I was wrong.  :lol
Fine :) Also sorry for exploding a little bit but I'm just over-sensitive when it comes to people going Rambo on not very popular songs.

Jarlaxle

Build Me Up, Break Me Down is utterly fantastic. It worked awesome live and it is definitely in the third spot on A Dramatic Turn of Events.

SnakeEyes

No problem, Liberation, I deserved it.  :)

QuoteI don't see why "straightforward and not a 10 minute progfest" seems to automatically imply weak.  I like the song personally.

You must have missed the post I made about "Beneath the Surface" and "Far from Heaven" - arguably the two "most straightforward" songs -  being the two best songs on the album.  :lol

ddtonfire

I love it. I especially love the malicious pre-chorus. It's a fun song and probably isn't meant to be any more.

pogoowner

I consider BMUBMD one of the strongest songs on the album. It rocks.

Jay.Ess

When I first put the album on, and Build Me Up, Break Me Down came on, I was sitting there thinking :metal this albums gonna be sick. And it is.

It reminds me of a JLB song that he would put on one of his solo albums, and I enjoy Elements of Persuasion and Static Impulse. So I love the song.

SnakeEyes


ibosmiley

Quote from: SnakeEyes on October 02, 2011, 07:20:54 PM
No problem, Liberation, I deserved it.  :)

QuoteI don't see why "straightforward and not a 10 minute progfest" seems to automatically imply weak.  I like the song personally.

You must have missed the post I made about "Beneath the Surface" and "Far from Heaven" - arguably the two "most straightforward" songs -  being the two best songs on the album.  :lol

Hmmm...  true you did make that post...  and those are two great songs indeed.  So, I rescind that comment from your direction... but it still points to other people... *serious glare*

I have no idea what any of that means...

DarkLord_Lalinc

Fuck, no.


Build Me Up, Break me Down is amazing. You not Me sucks.

SnakeEyes

Since I am getting my ass kicked in this thread ... :lol .... I will kindly listen to "Build Me Up, Break Me Down" more times to see if maybe I am missing something. 

TheGreatPretender

Build Me Up, Break Me Down is one of the most unique songs on the album. Isn't this like, the first time they've ever used electric drums? It's got a very modern tone to it. I love it. Can't wait to hear it live.

Banny

No way. I like You Not Me, but I know what you're suggesting in this comparison and no- not at all. I'm seeing Dream Theater in 4 days and this will be me in BMU,BMD:

:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal

What a fucking badass chorus. And the strings are brilliant. Great chill-for-DT tune.

ddtonfire

Quote from: SnakeEyes on October 02, 2011, 07:56:01 PM
Since I am getting my ass kicked in this thread ... :lol .... I will kindly listen to "Build Me Up, Break Me Down" more times to see if maybe I am missing something.

I mean, you don't have to love it, and I definitely don't think it compares to, say, BAI, BiTS, etc, but it's almost kind of apples to oranges. They were definitely going for something different, maybe almost Endless Sacrifice-esque: a bit more modern metal feel.

The biggest difference between BMUBMD and You Not Me is that they actually sound like they're having fun in BMUBMD.

SystematicThought

I love this song. I always find myself coming back to it

SnakeEyes

ddtonfire, true, it does appear as if they're having fun. 

Oh and....

<------- 2112, BITCHES :lol

Zook


Ħ

Could be the best on the album.  Probably the best "short" song since These Walls, really.

energythief

Quote from: FlyingBIZKIT on October 02, 2011, 07:03:08 PM
Build Me Up, Break Me Down >>>>>>>> You Not Me


Quote from: Jamesman42 on October 02, 2011, 07:03:44 PM
Uh, not quite.


You're right. He needed way more ">>>>>>>>>>" to express how good BMUBMD is.

BlobVanDam

I really don't know what's to "get" about the song. It's just a straight forward SONG. I found it a bit uninteresting on the first few listens, but it really grew on my to the point I was listening to it constantly and loved it. The riff is really cool once it kicks in, and I like the vocal style. And those screams are awesome (even if they're a tad pitchy).

Slain

Quote from: SnakeEyes on October 02, 2011, 07:02:31 PM
In fact, I think I like "You Not Me" more. 

:'(

I respectfully disagree. You Not Me is the only DT song that I just can't listen to.

Nel_Annette

It's one of the best songs on the album, I think. o_O