MP has filed a lawsuit against Dream Theater

[Loser1]

Whelp the wheels are falling off of the MP forum. Wey just quit and he wasn't shy about saying why. Too bad, it was a fun ride from 2003 to 2011!

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

From Wey at MP.com forums

I can no longer be a party to cleaning up these messes. After working for Mike for peanuts and perks for 11 and a half years, Todays revealing by Blabbermouth is pretty much the final straw. I feel that I have been lied to after doing all that I can to keep this site peaceful, free of the bullshit drama and going to bat for MP and defending him to the point where I feel sometimes that I am the most hated person in the Dream Theater community. I can no longer feel that my integrity and morals are not compromised.

Those of you that want or need to get ahold of me, know how to find me. If not, a simple check of Google will provide you with 5 other emails you can use to contact me. I'll check in every now and again, but at this time, my post will probably be removed and my IP address banned.

HOLY SHIT

yes.

[zxlkho]

But in all seriousness; Mike is not doing this for money. This is clear unfiltered spite.

Yeah, definitely this. That's the saddest part about this whole thing.

[elizaalltiedup]

Holy shit, what a train wreck. There goes my last bit of respect for MP. 

[ariich]

But in all seriousness; Mike is not doing this for money. This is clear unfiltered spite.

Certainly a possibility, especially given (as someone pointed out) the fact that it happened in April when DT were building up to the reveal of their new drummer. He must have been an absolute wreck at the time. But it may well have been for money - I'm sure there was stuff going around a few weeks ago about him wanting appropriate royalties.

Again, I'd be interested to hear his comments on the matter.

[LCArenas]

Just when I thought he was regaining his dignity with that latest interview a bit, this comes up...

My thoughts exactly.

Edit: WHOLY TAPDANCING BEARD OF PETRUCCI, DID WEYMOLITH ACTUALLY QUIT MP.com?

[bosk1]

Forget proper. It's a bad thing to be refereed to as a defendant!

No it isn't. 

But in all seriousness; Mike is not doing this for money. This is clear unfiltered spite.

You have no idea why he filed it.

[KevShmev]

Again, I'd be interested to hear his comments on the matter.

Why?  So he can try to spin it in a way that makes him look like a victim yet again?  I don't think there is anything he can say about it that fan make him look less worse than he already does right now. 

[Kotowboy]

I was already very happy with Mangini, but in cases like this, his humbleness makes me like him that much more.

[Unfed Pendulum]

I'm petrified. This is madness !
First, the reaction about the new album, now this...
This guy was my hero, excentric, full of energy, a master of scene&crowd on gigs and a great musician.
What is this, Mike ? What the hell are you doing ?
I truly respected him and now I feel that I'm losing it. This is unacceptable.

[Deadpool]

I have a feeling that some DTF members will be banned because of this nonsense. 


And...

I'm petrified. This is madness !

Madness?

THIS IS DRAMA!

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

Just when I thought he was regaining his dignity with that latest interview a bit, this comes up...

My thoughts exactly.

Edit: WHOLY TAPDANCING BEARD OF PETRUCCI, DID WEYMOLITH ACTUALLY QUIT MP.com?

Really!?

[ariich]

Again, I'd be interested to hear his comments on the matter.

Why?  So he can try to spin it in a way that makes him look like a victim yet again?  I don't think there is anything he can say about it that fan make him look less worse than he already does right now. 

Because it might shed some light on his actual intentions for doing it. At the moment all we have is people making assumptions like "he didn't want money, it was just out of spite". Which is absolutely possible, but I'd be interested to hear what he has to say on the matter, because it would be far more relevant than the assumptions of people who dislike him.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

Forget proper. It's a bad thing to be refereed to as a defendant!

No it isn't. 

But in all seriousness; Mike is not doing this for money. This is clear unfiltered spite.

You have no idea why he filed it.

DO NOT dare disrespect Egypt...

[bosk1]

  Sorry.

[Scooterfruit]

Well Wey's thread is now gone from MP.com as is the thread about the lawsuit...oh boy....

[Loser1]

From Wey at MP.com forums

I can no longer be a party to cleaning up these messes. After working for Mike for peanuts and perks for 11 and a half years, Todays revealing by Blabbermouth is pretty much the final straw. I feel that I have been lied to after doing all that I can to keep this site peaceful, free of the bullshit drama and going to bat for MP and defending him to the point where I feel sometimes that I am the most hated person in the Dream Theater community. I can no longer feel that my integrity and morals are not compromised.

Those of you that want or need to get ahold of me, know how to find me. If not, a simple check of Google will provide you with 5 other emails you can use to contact me. I'll check in every now and again, but at this time, my post will probably be removed and my IP address banned.

HOLY SHIT

yes.

Too bad. Wey's farewell post was just deleted. What a shame... bullshit even.

[KevShmev]

Again, I'd be interested to hear his comments on the matter.

Why?  So he can try to spin it in a way that makes him look like a victim yet again?  I don't think there is anything he can say about it that fan make him look less worse than he already does right now. 

Because it might shed some light on his actual intentions for doing it. At the moment all we have is people making assumptions like "he didn't want money, it was just out of spite". Which is absolutely possible, but I'd be interested to hear what he has to say on the matter, because it would be far more relevant than the assumptions of people who dislike him.

Eh, his spin will reflect on him in the best possible light.  It is not like he is gonna come right out and say what his actual intentions were, and his spin will then result in most of us realizing what is obvious, you of course being one of the few who won't since you are the eternal optimist.

[El Barto]

Again, I'd be interested to hear his comments on the matter.

Why?  So he can try to spin it in a way that makes him look like a victim yet again?  I don't think there is anything he can say about it that fan make him look less worse than he already does right now. 

Because it might shed some light on his actual intentions for doing it. At the moment all we have is people making assumptions like "he didn't want money, it was just out of spite". Which is absolutely possible, but I'd be interested to hear what he has to say on the matter, because it would be far more relevant than the assumptions of people who dislike him.

Particularly since this thing was most likely resolved quite some time ago.  I'm of the opinion that he was just looking to secure his name out of principle, and they quickly agreed to a reasonable settlement.  That this came out now, long after it was likely resolved is the unfortunate part.

I'm also betting that MP's forum greets us with a big 404 here quite soon, so I'm not sure how much info we get from the man regarding things. 

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

Probably more victim garbage.

[emtee]

Yep. With the push of a button the threads are history.

And now we wait and see where we go from here. No Mod working there so it would seem like a temp. shutdown might be
MP's only way derail this.

[Millais]

Too bad. Wey's farewell post was just deleted. What a shame... bullshit even.

censorship now! such a shame it's come to this.

[ariich]

Eh, his spin will reflect on him in the best possible light.

Indeed, and the assumptions of people who dislike him will paint him in the worst possible light. By looking at both you can get a better idea of the underlying reality than just looking at one.

[TheOutlawXanadu]

How much do you guys think this revelation is going to hurt Portnoy's future projects, especially in the short term?

[KevShmev]

I don't think it is a coincidence either that none of the DT members said anything close to disparaging about Portnoy prior to April, but both JLB and Rudess were quoted in interviews since as saying things that were less than flattering about him (JLB's comment about him stealing the spotlight from the back of the stage, JR saying he was the DT Police, etc.).  Makes me think that after the lawsuit was filed, they had had enough of him, and were more receptive to not being completely PC when asked about him.

[millahh]

The threads at MP's site were all deleted, including Wey's farewell

[snapple]

Why remove the lawsuit thread? A Story from mp.com

Because DT are trying to rewrite history with their new album.  (lol) 

I think it's time for the MP forum to go on a five year hiatus.  Too much personal info being shared.

I love it.

[KevShmev]

Eh, his spin will reflect on him in the best possible light.

Indeed, and the assumptions of people who dislike him will paint him in the worst possible light. By looking at both you can get a better idea of the underlying reality than just looking at one.

That's almost everyone now.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

How much do you guys think this revelation is going to hurt Portnoy's future projects, especially in the short term?

He's going to lose some fans, that's for sure.


That will also mean The Mob.... losing some fans.

[ariich]

I don't think it is a coincidence either that none of the DT members said anything close to disparaging about Portnoy prior to April, but both JLB and Rudess were quoted in interviews since as saying things that were less than flattering about him (JLB's comment about him stealing the spotlight from the back of the stage, JR saying he was the DT Police, etc.).  Makes me think that after the lawsuit was filed, they had had enough of him, and were more receptive to not being completely PC when asked about him.

Definitely agreed with this. A lot of things about the timing make a lot of sense now, like what you just pointed out, and the fact that it happened around the time of the big drummer reveal. As disappointing as it is, it's good that we're getting a fuller picture of what has been going on now.

[ariich]

Eh, his spin will reflect on him in the best possible light.

Indeed, and the assumptions of people who dislike him will paint him in the worst possible light. By looking at both you can get a better idea of the underlying reality than just looking at one.

That's almost everyone now.

True. But only a few people are making assumptions.

[Slain]

How much do you guys think this revelation is going to hurt Portnoy's future projects, especially in the short term?

That will also mean The Mob.... losing some fans.

I'd say much more than some fans. I went to one of the Adrenaline Mob concerts and there were tons of people wearing DT shirts, I wouldn't be surprised if this affects them.

[El Barto]

Hell, I'm halfway defending him.  I think it's a shame the story broke now.

[chrisbDTM]

oh mike

[Dublagent66]

Goddamn regret...