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Lost Not Forgotten Appreciation thread!

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Dacling

Quote from: Adami on November 30, 2012, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: The Letter M on November 30, 2012, 07:49:23 PM
Quote from: Adami on November 30, 2012, 05:45:51 PM
Despite the obvious Under a Glass Moon mirroring and bad lyrics, I think it's a pretty rocking song and it's one of the songs (from the new album) I'm most looking forward to on the DVD.




......it made the DVD, right?

I'm under the impression that ALL of the ADTOE songs will make it to the DVD and/or CD in some shape or form. At least, I really truly hope so.

-Marc.


Well to be safe, I am just going to assume that only the songs from those 2 shows will make it on the DVD, which I hope I'm incorrect about.

Was LNF played at either of those two shows?

Every single song from ADTOE was played between the two shows.

Adami

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The Letter M

Quote from: Adami on November 30, 2012, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: The Letter M on November 30, 2012, 07:49:23 PM
Quote from: Adami on November 30, 2012, 05:45:51 PM
Despite the obvious Under a Glass Moon mirroring and bad lyrics, I think it's a pretty rocking song and it's one of the songs (from the new album) I'm most looking forward to on the DVD.




......it made the DVD, right?

I'm under the impression that ALL of the ADTOE songs will make it to the DVD and/or CD in some shape or form. At least, I really truly hope so.

-Marc.


Well to be safe, I am just going to assume that only the songs from those 2 shows will make it on the DVD, which I hope I'm incorrect about.

Was LNF played at either of those two shows?

2012-08-19 - Luna Park - Buenos Aires, ARG

1. Bridges in the Sky
2. 6:00
3. The Dark Eternal Night
4. This is the Life
5. The Root of All Evil
6. Lost Not Forgotten
Drum Solo
7. A Fortune in Lies
8. The Silent Man (w/ string quartet)
9. Beneath the Surface (w/ string quartet)
10. Outcry
11. Surrounded
12. On the Backs of Angels
13. War Inside My Head
14. The Test that Stumped Them All
15. The Spirit Carries On
16. Breaking All Illusions
-------------------------------------------------
17. Metropolis, Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
   
2012-08-20 - Luna Park - Buenos Aires, ARG   

1. Bridges in the Sky
2. These Walls
3. Build Me Up, Break Me Down
4. This is the Life
5. Caught in a Web
6. Lost Not Forgotten
Drum Solo
7. A Fortune in Lies
8. Wait for Sleep (w/ string quartet)
9. Far From Heaven (w/ string quartet)
10. Outcry
11. Surrounded
12. On the Backs of Angels
13. War Inside My Head
14. The Test that Stumped Them All
15. The Spirit Carries On
16. Breaking All Illusions
-----------------------------------
17. Pull Me Under

Looks like it was played at BOTH shows. In fact, 8 songs from the album were played at each show, with the only alternating songs being Far From Heaven/Beneath The Surface.

Total, there were 23 songs between both shows, so hopefully they all make it to the DVD/CD set!!!

-Marc.

DebraKadabra

Quote from: Dacling on November 30, 2012, 08:11:16 PM
Every single song from ADTOE was played between the two shows.

Was just coming in to post this. :tup
Look at all us freaks cluttering your city streets
Still scalping their ticket-less applause
Spun monkeys on the railroad track, take me to the caine field; I walk along pick my spiderbite
Basically Kyoko Kirigiri

MirzekDT

Quote from: The Letter M on November 30, 2012, 08:14:56 PM
Quote from: Adami on November 30, 2012, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: The Letter M on November 30, 2012, 07:49:23 PM
Quote from: Adami on November 30, 2012, 05:45:51 PM
Despite the obvious Under a Glass Moon mirroring and bad lyrics, I think it's a pretty rocking song and it's one of the songs (from the new album) I'm most looking forward to on the DVD.




......it made the DVD, right?

I'm under the impression that ALL of the ADTOE songs will make it to the DVD and/or CD in some shape or form. At least, I really truly hope so.

-Marc.


Well to be safe, I am just going to assume that only the songs from those 2 shows will make it on the DVD, which I hope I'm incorrect about.

Was LNF played at either of those two shows?

2012-08-19 - Luna Park - Buenos Aires, ARG

1. Bridges in the Sky
2. 6:00
3. The Dark Eternal Night
4. This is the Life
5. The Root of All Evil
6. Lost Not Forgotten
Drum Solo
7. A Fortune in Lies
8. The Silent Man (w/ string quartet)
9. Beneath the Surface (w/ string quartet)
10. Outcry
11. Surrounded
12. On the Backs of Angels
13. War Inside My Head
14. The Test that Stumped Them All
15. The Spirit Carries On
16. Breaking All Illusions
-------------------------------------------------
17. Metropolis, Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
   
2012-08-20 - Luna Park - Buenos Aires, ARG   

1. Bridges in the Sky
2. These Walls
3. Build Me Up, Break Me Down
4. This is the Life
5. Caught in a Web
6. Lost Not Forgotten
Drum Solo
7. A Fortune in Lies
8. Wait for Sleep (w/ string quartet)
9. Far From Heaven (w/ string quartet)
10. Outcry
11. Surrounded
12. On the Backs of Angels
13. War Inside My Head
14. The Test that Stumped Them All
15. The Spirit Carries On
16. Breaking All Illusions
-----------------------------------
17. Pull Me Under

Looks like it was played at BOTH shows. In fact, 8 songs from the album were played at each show, with the only alternating songs being Far From Heaven/Beneath The Surface.

Total, there were 23 songs between both shows, so hopefully they all make it to the DVD/CD set!!!

-Marc.

BMUBMD was also played only once at first show.

The Letter M

It was? I just copied the set lists from the Concerts forum on here and assumed they were accurate, as they usually are before they're posted, although I just checked setlist.fm and it seems the songs in the 3rd spot were swapped, so BMUBMD should be in the first show, while TDEN is in the 2nd show.

-Marc.

DebraKadabra

Weren't we getting updates about third or fourth handed those nights, though?
Look at all us freaks cluttering your city streets
Still scalping their ticket-less applause
Spun monkeys on the railroad track, take me to the caine field; I walk along pick my spiderbite
Basically Kyoko Kirigiri

The Letter M

Quote from: DebraKadabra on December 03, 2012, 11:01:33 AM
Weren't we getting updates about third or fourth handed those nights, though?

Well, either way, both songs were likely played between both nights, and if the band does indeed release both shows, or some combination of both, we'll get both songs, so I don't really care either way which show had which song as long as we get both on the upcoming CD/DVD!

-Marc.

Lucidity

I love Lost Not Forgotten. It's ranked second or third for ADToE for me, behind Breaking All Illusions, and possibly Bridges.

DebraKadabra

Look at all us freaks cluttering your city streets
Still scalping their ticket-less applause
Spun monkeys on the railroad track, take me to the caine field; I walk along pick my spiderbite
Basically Kyoko Kirigiri

MoraWintersoul

Quote from: DebraKadabra on December 03, 2012, 11:01:33 AM
Weren't we getting updates about third or fourth handed those nights, though?
We weren't, Nekov was there :)

DebraKadabra

Look at all us freaks cluttering your city streets
Still scalping their ticket-less applause
Spun monkeys on the railroad track, take me to the caine field; I walk along pick my spiderbite
Basically Kyoko Kirigiri

MoraWintersoul


DebraKadabra

Look at all us freaks cluttering your city streets
Still scalping their ticket-less applause
Spun monkeys on the railroad track, take me to the caine field; I walk along pick my spiderbite
Basically Kyoko Kirigiri

cyberdrummer

Quote from: The Letter M on December 02, 2012, 10:00:38 AM
It was? I just copied the set lists from the Concerts forum on here and assumed they were accurate, as they usually are before they're posted, although I just checked setlist.fm and it seems the songs in the 3rd spot were swapped, so BMUBMD should be in the first show, while TDEN is in the 2nd show.

-Marc.

You don't think I'd get something like that wrong do you?  ;)

darkshade

Am I the only one who is annoyed that WIMH/TTTSTA was played at both shows and that it's going to be featured on the new live album? I mean, we got them on the last 2 official live albums (LAB and Score), why do we need another version of that, instead of The Great Debate (to represent SDOIT), or some other song??? Not to mention I don't like seeing a section of a bigger song being played (which is why I didn't like Schmedley Wilcox on Chaos In Motion).

cyberdrummer

I don't mind too much because Mangini is an absolute beast on those tracks. Worth seeing again just for that.

darkshade

Quote from: cyberdrummer on December 11, 2012, 02:02:42 PM
I don't mind too much because Mangini is an absolute beast on those tracks. Worth seeing again just for that.

I guess. I almost forgot Mangini would be there  :facepalm: that any track will be of interest just to hear him on it.

jonnybaxy

#158
1 of the 2 songs that are good on ADToE (with breaking all illusions)

Edit: make that as I like the verses of OtBoA and the chorus' of BITS

BlobVanDam

Quote from: darkshade on December 11, 2012, 02:00:47 PM
Am I the only one who is annoyed that WIMH/TTTSTA was played at both shows and that it's going to be featured on the new live album? I mean, we got them on the last 2 official live albums (LAB and Score), why do we need another version of that, instead of The Great Debate (to represent SDOIT), or some other song??? Not to mention I don't like seeing a section of a bigger song being played (which is why I didn't like Schmedley Wilcox on Chaos In Motion).

Yep, I found that strange too, along with yet another version of TSCO. A couple of songs I would have liked to see instead, but at least they filmed 2 shows and managed to get the majority of their tour setlist in there.

KevShmev

I am fine with it.  Those two songs were mainstays on the tour, and the live DVD/Blu-Ray is a reflection of the tour, so it makes total sense for them to be included.  Throwing something else on just to be different is never a good idea.  The band obviously loves playing those songs.

Zook

I can't really appreciate Lost Not Forgotten that much because it sounds too much like Under A Glass Moon.

/Thiago

Rob

Quote from: Zook on December 12, 2012, 06:17:48 PM
I can't really appreciate Lost Not Forgotten that much because it sounds too much like Under A Glass Moon.

/Thiago

"Either way, I applaud them for having the balls to do it and for the overall quality the end result turned out to have. I know how hard it is to write a song based off of a pre-established arrangement and have it sound concise, genuine and inspired. The tendency is to have a fucked up Frankenstein instead of music, so props to DT for pulling it off."

- Thiago

I don't really understand why people keep on thinking that believing that those are intentional (or real) similarities is the same as criticising anything.

Madman Shepherd

Quote from: darkshade on December 11, 2012, 02:00:47 PM
Am I the only one who is annoyed that WIMH/TTTSTA was played at both shows and that it's going to be featured on the new live album? I mean, we got them on the last 2 official live albums (LAB and Score), why do we need another version of that, instead of The Great Debate (to represent SDOIT), or some other song???

I ABSOLUTELY agree.  It is one thing for me to not really care for those songs but for them to appear on three consecutive live albums is wayyyyy overkill.  Putting Pull Me Under on three consecutive live albums is overkill but it would at least make sense. 

I'm glad I got to see them do the Great Debate before they pulled it from the set.  It is a long drawn out song so I guess I can understand the crowd not reacting as well to it, especially if they are newer fans.  But that song is a mammoth! 

DebraKadabra

Quote from: Zook on December 12, 2012, 06:17:48 PM
I can't really appreciate Lost Not Forgotten that much because it sounds too much like Under A Glass Moon.

/Thiago

You forgot a :neverusethis: in there.
Look at all us freaks cluttering your city streets
Still scalping their ticket-less applause
Spun monkeys on the railroad track, take me to the caine field; I walk along pick my spiderbite
Basically Kyoko Kirigiri

SeRoX

Quote from: Zook on December 12, 2012, 06:17:48 PM
I can't really appreciate Lost Not Forgotten that much because it sounds too much like Under A Glass Moon.

/Thiago

Mike approves but the question is which one? :neverusethis:

DebraKadabra

Look at all us freaks cluttering your city streets
Still scalping their ticket-less applause
Spun monkeys on the railroad track, take me to the caine field; I walk along pick my spiderbite
Basically Kyoko Kirigiri

darkshade

Quote from: Madman Shepherd on December 12, 2012, 08:17:06 PM
Quote from: darkshade on December 11, 2012, 02:00:47 PM
Am I the only one who is annoyed that WIMH/TTTSTA was played at both shows and that it's going to be featured on the new live album? I mean, we got them on the last 2 official live albums (LAB and Score), why do we need another version of that, instead of The Great Debate (to represent SDOIT), or some other song???

I ABSOLUTELY agree.  It is one thing for me to not really care for those songs but for them to appear on three consecutive live albums is wayyyyy overkill.  Putting Pull Me Under on three consecutive live albums is overkill but it would at least make sense. 

I don't think even Pull Me Under has gotten the 3-in-a-row treatment on DT's live albums.......... :-\

DarkLord_Lalinc

however, by watching videos on youtube of Pull Me Under on the Luna Park gigs before they got taken down, I can easily say that was JLB's best performance ever on a live album of the song (probably excluding Marquee and Live in Tokyo). You're on for a treat on the end.

your will is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE-AH!

MoraWintersoul

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on December 13, 2012, 08:27:25 PM
however, by watching videos on youtube of Pull Me Under on the Luna Park gigs before they got taken down, I can easily say that was JLB's best performance ever on a live album of the song (probably excluding Marquee and Live in Tokyo).
Ah, so someone else was paying attention :tup I wish they hadn't taken the vids down but eh.

Not sure should I start this topic in this topic, but Iced Earth recorded their DVD on the very same day and it will come out in April :-X True, there's 5 more songs on theirs, but it's more straightforward editing since it was one show only.

wasteland

Quote from: MoraWintersoul on December 14, 2012, 12:29:03 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on December 13, 2012, 08:27:25 PM
however, by watching videos on youtube of Pull Me Under on the Luna Park gigs before they got taken down, I can easily say that was JLB's best performance ever on a live album of the song (probably excluding Marquee and Live in Tokyo).
Ah, so someone else was paying attention :tup I wish they hadn't taken the vids down but eh.

Not sure should I start this topic in this topic, but Iced Earth recorded their DVD on the very same way and it will come out in April :-X True, there's 5 more songs on theirs, but it's more straightforward editing since it was one show only.

I'm not sure I can survive without the DVD until April.  :|

MoraWintersoul


nikatapi

It's a great song, i really like it, especially the instrumental section, Mangini does some sick stuff, and it was more obvious watching youtube videos, since some cymbal work was lost because of the production.

The DVD version will be amazing, i'm hoping for some good editing (unlike Live Scenes which was awful with all the shitty effects etc) which will show us all of the guys playing their great parts.

Rob

Quote from: DebraKadabra on December 13, 2012, 05:46:44 PM
Quote from: Zook on December 12, 2012, 06:17:48 PM
I can't really appreciate Lost Not Forgotten that much because it sounds too much like Under A Glass Moon.

/Thiago

You forgot a :neverusethis: in there.

Yeah, I got that it was just a joke, but jokes have to follow some logic, too and the "Thiago" part doesn't make any sense.

wasteland

Quote from: Rob on December 14, 2012, 08:23:22 AM
Quote from: DebraKadabra on December 13, 2012, 05:46:44 PM
Quote from: Zook on December 12, 2012, 06:17:48 PM
I can't really appreciate Lost Not Forgotten that much because it sounds too much like Under A Glass Moon.

/Thiago

You forgot a :neverusethis: in there.

Yeah, I got that it was just a joke, but jokes have to follow some logic, too and the "Thiago" part doesn't make any sense.

It's because you weren't here at the time when ADTOE was being released. One guy, Thiago, who is quite famous among DT fans for his great (and aknowledged my MP) split screen covers, came here with a lenghty analysis maintaining that ADTOE was a blatant ripoff of Images And Words. An unpolite discussion ensued and Thiago was either banned or left without ever coming back.