2011-07-05 - Castello Scaligero - Verona, ITA

[wasteland]

Well, is the setlist the exact same one?

Yes. Here's setlist.fm final setlist (including The Wrong Count mishap)

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2011/castello-scaligero-villafranca-di-verona-italy-13d3612d.html

[BRGM]

: / I'm almost dissapointed, still a great set none the less

[Jamesman42]

I'm glad they sticking to the one setlist, actually.

[krands85]

Few short clips from tonight are up already:

Intro/Beginning of UaGM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTZonB_b55M
Early part of OtBoA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89qPyPZyMCM
Last 5minutes of TCoT - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scSrf1axorA
Instrumental section to the end of Endless Sacrifice (sound quality isn't as good) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcIN47U5vjE

[jmbeat]

3. Forsaken

The audience is singing MM's name!

I would really like to see a video of this, he looks so happy to begin with I can't imagine his reaction to that

[BRGM]

I'm glad they sticking to the one setlist, actually.

and why is that? Just wondering, I always enjoy that you never know what is to come in a DT setlist, kind of

[MirzekDT]

OMG I'm so much happy that they are beginning the show with Dream Is Collapsing soundtrack to Inception is some of my favorite music ever

[DeanTheater]

Few short clips from tonight are up already:

Intro/Beginning of UaGM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTZonB_b55M
Early part of OtBoA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89qPyPZyMCM
Last 5minutes of TCoT - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scSrf1axorA
Instrumental section to the end of Endless Sacrifice (sound quality isn't as good) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcIN47U5vjE

I just watched TCOT and JLB did a wonderful job.  Sounded great.  Good to hear DT better than ever

[DreamerTV]

So, even if it's 2am here, and i'm soooooo tired, i'll give you a short review

First of all, i would spend two words for Anathema: what a great band, and what a disappointment that their guitarist had to do self promotion after their gig through the crowd...

Dream Theater: Did you remember James being on stage for less of 1/3 of the show?. Did you remember his detached attitude towards the other members?. Have you ever seen James laughing that hard with JP to quite stop singing?. As far as i know your answer, let me say that now is the opposite.
They've done mistakes. Pretending they won't is something that goes behind ridiculousness. Mangini had some troubles right before UAGM's solo, and here and there he've lost tempo, and JR helped him a lot by clapping his hand on thigh. Petrucci lost sound during OTBOA, and Rudess during The Great Debate, if i'm not wrong (but i bet i am). To me, as opposite of what some italians fan are saying in Fb pages, James sound amazing. I would like to re-watch right now LTL to know if i imagined what i've heard: to me, he sounded almost perfect. Far better from what i've heard from Rome. It seems like Rome and, but we knew that, this tour really serve to getting into shape for the world tour.
But if this is their shape now, i can't even think of what they could do in a couple of months. What an energetic show, Petrucci had a great sound, a JMX too: maybe someone told the band that in Rome MM was too loud and JR too low, 'cause they've clearly exchenged the situation, JR was too loud and MM too low. The Great Debate live is phenomenal, hope you'll have the chance to see it.

About Mike Magini: my father said "they've lost sound". As said by my father,who's a non-musician, i can really understand what he meant. Even if Portnoy in last tours used to do basically always the same things, his mix was loud and aggressive. His focus wasn't to have a sound, but to make noise, and hitting that kit hard. But he made it in the right spots, 'cause he knew perfectly the songs. If i think of things that made DT more popular in the last couple of years, despite IMHO less quality, i'll think about guitar sound and loud drumming.
To me, Magini drumming sounds incredible, but it goes more in a musical direction. And i like it, but i can understand why people may would noticed more than i've done MP absence. I think time will give MM enough confidence to give aggressivness to his sound instead of being scared to make mistaks.
Apart from that, when at the end of the show we screamd MANGINI MANGINI MANGINI he freaked out jumping and clapping and smiling as a happy little boy. I felt so happy for him that you can't even imagine.

About James laughing hard with JP, it happend during TCOT, when lines say "i want to say goodbye, this could be the last time you see me alive" and JP made an hello hand to him... It was hilarious!.

In the end, i really enjoyed the show, i think they're in a really great shape, and i can't wait to ADTOE to come out and to see them again ASAP.

p.s. we got the new camel....

[krands85]

Full version of Under a Glass Moon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qfqkHArxlQ
Forsaken: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlzxZx-HzG8

Need to get myself a camera that deals with audio as well as some of these clips The one I have is pretty decent given the size of it and how much it cost, but still struggles a bit, mainly with bass.

[zipporaid]

So, even if it's 2am here, and i'm soooooo tired, i'll give you a short review

First of all, i would spend two words for Anathema: what a great band, and what a disappointment that their guitarist had to do self promotion after their gig through the crowd...

Dream Theater: Did you remember James being on stage for less of 1/3 of the show?. Did you remember his detached attitude towards the other members?. Have you ever seen James laughing that hard with JP to quite stop singing?. As far as i know your answer, let me say that now is the opposite.
They've done mistakes. Pretending they won't is something that goes behind ridiculousness. Mangini had some troubles right before UAGM's solo, and here and there he've lost tempo, and JR helped him a lot by clapping his hand on thigh. Petrucci lost sound during OTBOA, and Rudess during The Great Debate, if i'm not wrong (but i bet i am). To me, as opposite of what some italians fan are saying in Fb pages, James sound amazing. I would like to re-watch right now LTL to know if i imagined what i've heard: to me, he sounded almost perfect. Far better from what i've heard from Rome. It seems like Rome and, but we knew that, this tour really serve to getting into shape for the world tour.
But if this is their shape now, i can't even think of what they could do in a couple of months. What an energetic show, Petrucci had a great sound, a JMX too: maybe someone told the band that in Rome MM was too loud and JR too low, 'cause they've clearly exchenged the situation, JR was too loud and MM too low. The Great Debate live is phenomenal, hope you'll have the chance to see it.

About Mike Magini: my father said "they've lost sound". As said by my father,who's a non-musician, i can really understand what he meant. Even if Portnoy in last tours used to do basically always the same things, his mix was loud and aggressive. His focus wasn't to have a sound, but to make noise, and hitting that kit hard. But he made it in the right spots, 'cause he knew perfectly the songs. If i think of things that made DT more popular in the last couple of years, despite IMHO less quality, i'll think about guitar sound and loud drumming.
To me, Magini drumming sounds incredible, but it goes more in a musical direction. And i like it, but i can understand why people may would noticed more than i've done MP absence. I think time will give MM enough confidence to give aggressivness to his sound instead of being scared to make mistaks.
Apart from that, when at the end of the show we screamd MANGINI MANGINI MANGINI he freaked out jumping and clapping and smiling as a happy little boy. I felt so happy for him that you can't even imagine.

About James laughing hard with JP, it happend during TCOT, when lines say "i want to say goodbye, this could be the last time you see me alive" and JP made an hello hand to him... It was hilarious!.

In the end, i really enjoyed the show, i think they're in a really great shape, and i can't wait to ADTOE to come out and to see them again ASAP.

p.s. we got the new camel....

great review, thanks for the insights!  And nice of you guys to scream for MM, he really seems to be so excited to be in the band

and very much agree with the bold

[lodeus]

Full version of Under a Glass Moon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qfqkHArxlQ
Forsaken: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlzxZx-HzG8

Need to get myself a camera that deals with audio as well as some of these clips The one I have is pretty decent given the size of it and how much it cost, but still struggles a bit, mainly with bass.

Thats good stuff 

[JaredWard]

First Mangini flub @ 4:13 (Under A Glass Moon) Nice recovery though.

[tjanuranus]

It must be insane to mm right now. He has to learn all these crazy songs and parts and his first gigs get put up on YouTube so everyone can point out the mistakes. People didn't have to deal with that shit before YouTube. Not a knock on anyone here just a realization of this day and age.

[The Silent Cody]

First Mangini flub @ 4:13 (Under A Glass Moon) Nice recovery though.

Nice flub, but this is not the point nice to see that DT are humans also, but MM and other Guys are in great shape, James voice in Verona sounds so much better then in Rome...

[Victor Alexandrov]

So who's the new camel?

[dongringo]

Nice review DreamerTV. Thanks for your insights.

Getting in on the thread for the updates.

[Tunnel Vision]

Wow, james does sound really good in these vids

[wasteland]

Wow, james does sound really good in these vids

Yes! He seems to be heading towards a better vocal shape! 

[JaredWard]

I wasn't knocking Mike, just pointing out a funny flub... the guy is unbelievable. I can't imagine the pressure that's on him right now but everything that I've heard so far I'm happy with and on top of that he's incredibly humble. I hate to even compare him to MP but the main difference I hear is "pocket presence" ...in which MP never really had imo. he would often speed up songs in certain parts or slow them a bit. - so other than being a technical monster, Mangini can keep a solid groove & stay tightly in the pocket which I really admire.

[The Silent Cody]

I wasn't knocking Mike, just pointing out a funny flub... the guy is unbelievable. I can't imagine the pressure that's on him right now but everything that I've heard so far I'm happy with and on top of that he's incredibly humble. I hate to even compare him to MP but the main difference I hear is "pocket presence" ...in which MP never really had imo. he would often speed up songs in certain parts or slow them a bit. - so other than being a technical monster, Mangini can keep a solid groove & stay tightly in the pocket which I really admire.

This, I totally agree. You just can feel the feeling of the songs that MM does. Listen to the beginning of Under The Glass Moon... No comments needed

[IdoSC]

Damn, James is kicking major asses, listen to the Endless Sacrifice video at ~3:45.

[wasteland]

Damn, James is kicking major asses, listen to the Endless Sacrifice video at ~3:45.

Good grace, that's a F5!!

[IdoSC]

Damn, James is kicking major asses, listen to the Endless Sacrifice video at ~3:45.

Good grace, that's a F5!!

Lol, he's doing like over 5 extreme notes a show now. The man is on fire

[wasteland]

Damn, James is kicking major asses, listen to the Endless Sacrifice video at ~3:45.

Good grace, that's a F5!!

Lol, he's doing like over 5 extreme notes a show now. The man is on fire

Especially since he did only one extreme note in the whole BCSL tour (a high F in As I Am)

[IdoSC]

Damn, James is kicking major asses, listen to the Endless Sacrifice video at ~3:45.

Good grace, that's a F5!!

Lol, he's doing like over 5 extreme notes a show now. The man is on fire

Especially since he did only one extreme note in the whole BCSL tour (a high F in As I Am)

Also the one in Peruvian Skies when they played it in Peru @ 2009.

[Dreamer81]

Anyone with some good pictures of this show?? Or maybe know where tO find something?

[The Silent Cody]

Get on Blabbermouth. There is a lot of pictures and YT videos from the show from Rome

[tri.ad]

Yeah, but he wants pictures from the show in Verona, not in Rome...

[Dreamer81]

Yes because all that I have from Verona is low quality cellphone pictures. Maybe some shoot from hilarious Mangini's face. 

[The Silent Cody]

Yeah, but he wants pictures from the show in Verona, not in Rome...

Shit, sorry I missed threads they are so close to each other 

[jonny108]

Caught in a Web

Audio is good, video is shocking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4P1ap3E6pA

James sounds great!  

Wrong thread

[wasteland]

Caught in a Web

Audio is good, video is shocking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4P1ap3E6pA

James sounds great!  

Wrong thread

Nice, but that's Rome, not Verona!

(and when you said shocking I though it was in a positive way. Is "shocking" only used to imply negativity?)

[Dreamer81]

Awesome when JLB was trying to tell something and all the crowd gone:Mangini!!! Mangini!!JLB looked a little pissed off and JP pointing at MM telling Look It's here!!! And MM with this big smile. Priceless.

[jonny108]

Caught in a Web

Audio is good, video is shocking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4P1ap3E6pA

James sounds great!  

Wrong thread

Nice, but that's Rome, not Verona!

That's why I put wrong thread, forgot to put edit ha 

(and when you said shocking I though it was in a positive way. Is "shocking" only used to imply negativity?)

I say shocking when ever something is bad...maybe it's an English thing.