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New Album Title (A Dramatic Turn of Events) and Track Listing Revealed

Started by Plasmastrike, June 07, 2011, 08:59:34 PM

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Jamesman42

\o\ lol /o/

Ben_Jamin


SystematicThought

I saw it live when they played it in Minneapolis. It's actually amazing live and it's a real crowd driven song, obviously because of the chants. I loved how JR's keyboard solo segued into PoW

wasteland

Quote from: SystematicThought on June 20, 2011, 01:35:47 AM
I saw it live when they played it in Minneapolis. It's actually amazing live and it's a real crowd driven song, obviously because of the chants. I loved how JR's keyboard solo segued into PoW

I love how JR always refuses to look at the keyoboard while playing the intro riff of PoW. It's like he's saying: "I don't even need to look at this shit"  :biggrin:

weirdo

I, unlike many others, like the newer albums (since 6DoIT and ToT) more than the older ones. But still they all are amazing. Idk I might be overoptimistic, but I think there is really no DT song that I don't like :/ (or at least VERY few). They are all good in their own way. Maybe I should learn to be more critical idk :P.

However I have listened DT for only a couple of years so I respect the opinions of those who have followed the progress of the band a bit longer than I have :).

Anyway.... Im not very conservative when it comes to DT music. The main reason why I fell in love with DT music is that I thought (and still think) that their music is so varying, unpredictable and fun to listen to and they are not afraid to try something new. So my point is: for me, the more surprising, original and unpredictable the new album is, the better. And Im sure I wont be disappointed ^^

jimgolf

Quote from: weirdo on June 20, 2011, 03:20:37 AM
I, unlike many others, like the newer albums (since 6DoIT and ToT) more than the older ones. But still they all are amazing. Idk I might be overoptimistic, but I think there is really no DT song that I don’t like :/ (or at least VERY few). They are all good in their own way. Maybe I should learn to be more critical idk :P.

However I have listened DT for only a couple of years so I respect the opinions of those who have followed the progress of the band a bit longer than I have :).

Anyway…. Im not very conservative when it comes to DT music. The main reason why I fell in love with DT music is that I thought (and still think) that their music is so varying, unpredictable and fun to listen to and they are not afraid to try something new. So my point is: for me, the more surprising, original and unpredictable the new album is, the better. And Im sure I wont be disappointed ^^



I actually really like this opinion. Although there are some dt songs I may slightly prefer over others, I have liked each song a lot at one point or another while listening to the band. Even Prophets of War(it was actually my favorite song when the album first came out for some reason.)

Also, all this news about John Myung and James' vocals is very cool. Although, what really has me excited about this album is the song titles for some reason. I just like how they seem like they are going to contain lyrics open to interpretation, which were in my opinion, were always the best ones - especially for a long-term analysis of the album

hefdaddy42

I'm glad that every single person who likes that abysmal song has posted in this thread, but let's try to steer the thread back on topic.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Sixtease

Not if you keep manipulating the grounds of Internets into thinking that all other people hate PoW. What a great song! And yeah, it would have been a cool single.

tjanuranus



wasteland

Quote from: TwitterPiratecjs James LaBrie
Hey EdizArca, Don't know what your reading or listening to but we r far from commercial with the new material.

Excellent.  :burns:  <-- (there needs to be an icon for that  :lol)

Zydar


Jamesman42

\o\ lol /o/

robwebster

Just every now and then, someone'll quote James's twitter, and I'll have forgotten how funny and goofy his username is. And then I'll see it, chuckle, and enjoy.

wasteland


DarkLord_Lalinc

I really didn't know where to put this, so I'll just put it here.


Mike recently posted these responses on his Facebook Fan Page:
 
On the subject of: "why is MP doing so many projects if he 'wanted a break'":
 
MP: "Once and for all (yeah right!), I felt *DT* needed a break...we were doing a constant write/record/tour cycle for over 20 years (of which I oversaw every aspect and was burnt out) and I felt the routine of the endless cycle (and our internal relationships) were getting stale and needed a little break to shake things up and re-inspire...I NEVER said that *I* needed a break from playing/creating/working.."
 
 
On the subject of:"JP & JR stated you wanted the band to just stop for 5 years...how could you expect them to do that?":
 
MP: "I never said '5 years' as they are saying...I suggested an "indefinite" break (which is exactly that...take some time off and when we ALL were ready, re-start)...they said no...I then suggested a compromise of reconvening in Jan 2012...they still said no...I then suggested a further compromise of doing "light work" throughout 2011 in order to keep $ flowing in...and they STILL said no...they basically said 'it's Jan 2011 or we're moving on without you'...with no compromises and no concerns or respect for my need for time off...and I wasn't going to be "forced" into something I wasn't ready to do, so I was left with no choice but to step aside....and then at the end of October, after 6 weeks of reflection, I was willing to do it just for the sake of not losing my own band, but they already started their auditions and their film and it was too late (although Mangini was NOT in the band yet at this point)...and even then, they had their lawyers respond to me...they didnt even do it themselves!! So everybody, GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT before making accusations about me!!! or even better yet, let's just drop it and move on...The Serenity Prayer has taught me to "accept the things I cannot change"...and until somebody builds a time machine, you cannot change the past (and even then, the movies have hinted that you still cant)" 
   

wasteland

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 20, 2011, 08:24:28 AM
I really didn't know where to put this, so I'll just put it here.


Mike recently posted these responses on his Facebook Fan Page:
 
On the subject of: "why is MP doing so many projects if he 'wanted a break'":
 
MP: "Once and for all (yeah right!), I felt *DT* needed a break...we were doing a constant write/record/tour cycle for over 20 years (of which I oversaw every aspect and was burnt out) and I felt the routine of the endless cycle (and our internal relationships) were getting stale and needed a little break to shake things up and re-inspire...I NEVER said that *I* needed a break from playing/creating/working.."
 
 
On the subject of:"JP & JR stated you wanted the band to just stop for 5 years...how could you expect them to do that?":
 
MP: "I never said '5 years' as they are saying...I suggested an "indefinite" break (which is exactly that...take some time off and when we ALL were ready, re-start)...they said no...I then suggested a compromise of reconvening in Jan 2012...they still said no...I then suggested a further compromise of doing "light work" throughout 2011 in order to keep $ flowing in...and they STILL said no...they basically said 'it's Jan 2011 or we're moving on without you'...with no compromises and no concerns or respect for my need for time off...and I wasn't going to be "forced" into something I wasn't ready to do, so I was left with no choice but to step aside....and then at the end of October, after 6 weeks of reflection, I was willing to do it just for the sake of not losing my own band, but they already started their auditions and their film and it was too late (although Mangini was NOT in the band yet at this point)...and even then, they had their lawyers respond to me...they didnt even do it themselves!! So everybody, GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT before making accusations about me!!! or even better yet, let's just drop it and move on...The Serenity Prayer has taught me to "accept the things I cannot change"...and until somebody builds a time machine, you cannot change the past (and even then, the movies have hinted that you still cant)"  
 

Does he still feel the need of having periodic outburst like this?  :sad:

Actually, it is quite shameful to compare the words each of the two parts has spent for the other since the breakup. But I guess this is MP's way...  ::)

DarkLord_Lalinc


reneranucci

I don't see anything wrong with MP's words. If anything, he's defending himself against all the baseless accusations people make about him without even knowing the facts, as he says. I've seen plenty of those accusations in this forum and if I were Mike I would definitely feel ofended about people's animosity towards me, and try to get things straight.

bosk1

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 20, 2011, 08:24:28 AM
I really didn't know where to put this, so I'll just put it here.

Um...maybe any one of the several threads that are actually about Mike leaving the band?

DarkLord_Lalinc

What I think is wrong with that is bringing once again the whole "I told them this...they refused (BUT OF COURSE....NOT THEMSELVES BUT WITH THEIR *LAWYER*....)" ordeal.

wasteland has a good point in comparing the wording of the DT guys and the wording of MP. I'm sorry, but I just can't help to think that the DT guys are hell lot more mature than MP.


Quote from: bosk1 on June 20, 2011, 08:46:03 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 20, 2011, 08:24:28 AM
I really didn't know where to put this, so I'll just put it here.

Um...maybe any one of the several threads that are actually about Mike leaving the band?
Didn't know if it was a good idea to necro one of those threads, but yeah. My bad.

wasteland

Quote from: reneranucci on June 20, 2011, 08:43:41 AM
I don't see anything wrong with MP's words. If anything, he's defending himself against all the baseless accusations people make about him without even knowing the facts, as he says. I've seen plenty of those accusations in this forum and if I were Mike I would definitely feel ofended about people's animosity towards me, and try to get things straight.

That's right, but the problem is that he already did make things clear. He wrote several pages of explaination, comments and whatever over the last 9 months. He said he was heartbroken, that he needed time to work things out, and than that he felt great with his "new life" and he could not be happier to do what he was doing.

If he is so happy, why are his words so sour? He has the right to say whatever he wants to, but to further iterate these verbal exploits seems to me a bit out of place now.

Ok, let's come back in topic: this album is not going to be commercial, according to James's words. Were you worried about it? That this album could drive DT away from ProgLand?

TheSilentHam

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 20, 2011, 08:24:28 AM

 MP: I felt *DT* needed a break...we were doing a constant write/record/tour cycle for over 20 years (of which I oversaw every aspect and was burnt out) and I felt the routine of the endless cycle (and our internal relationships) were getting stale and needed a little break to shake things up and re-inspire...I NEVER *never* said that *I* needed a break from playing/creating/working.."
 
 
On the subject of:"JP & JR stated you wanted the band to just stop for 5 years...how could you expect them to do that?":
 
MP: Let's just drop it and move on...The Serenity Prayer has taught me to "accept the things I cannot change"...and until somebody builds a time machine, you cannot change the past (and even then, the movies have hinted that you still cant)"  
 

I would have been more impressed if the response had been left to this ^ alone, but I expect too much...

GasparXR

Probably because that's what happens when his fans are ignorant and assume whatever they want. He is happy, he just wanted to make the message as bold and clear as possible so people will stop making accusations about him.

JP & JR probably said ~5 years because when bands do indefinite breaks, that's usually what the break lasts for as far as I know (I could be wrong, but that's my guess). They probably left out that Mike compromised with just a year break and so forth because they were explaining how they felt about the ordeal itself, not the details of it.



bosk1

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 20, 2011, 08:46:52 AM
Quote from: bosk1 on June 20, 2011, 08:46:03 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 20, 2011, 08:24:28 AM
I really didn't know where to put this, so I'll just put it here.

Um...maybe any one of the several threads that are actually about Mike leaving the band?
Didn't know if it was a good idea to necro one of those threads, but yeah. My bad.

No, you definitely should.  It belongs in that discussion--not here.

reneranucci

Quote from: GasparXR on June 20, 2011, 08:58:27 AM
Probably because that's what happens when his fans are ignorant and assume whatever they want. He is happy, he just wanted to make the message as bold and clear as possible so people will stop making accusations about him.
Agreed.

phentalmyst

DT said MP asked to come back after MM was chosen...and MP is saying otherwise. weird.

Blackfield

No matter how many times JP and JR try to state otherwise, relations in DT camp were not healthy. Certainly when you after more than 20 years together choose to have your lawyer do the communications with the other part.

JP feels "heartbroken", bullshit (?)

robwebster

Quote from: Blackfield on June 20, 2011, 09:29:38 AM
No matter how many times JP and JR try to state otherwise, relations in DT camp were not healthy. Certainly when you after more than 20 years together choose to have your lawyer do the communications with the other part.

JP feels "heartbroken", bullshit (?)
For what it's worth, Mike, I'm really looking forward to Adrenaline Mob.

Bertielee

Quote from: Blackfield on June 20, 2011, 09:29:38 AM
No matter how many times JP and JR try to state otherwise, relations in DT camp were not healthy. Certainly when you after more than 20 years together choose to have your lawyer do the communications with the other part.

JP feels "heartbroken", bullshit (?)

Who cares who is right or who is wrong? In the end, MP left DT and they went on making music seperately. And yes, maybe there's more to it than what we actually know, but what matters is that they go on making music.

B.Lee

tri.ad

I've arrived at a point where I'm just taking notice of what MP has to say about his departure and nothing more. It's more or less just more of the same imo.
All eyes on DT, I guess. At least, that's what applies to me.

Aniland

You guys will talk about literally anything if it gets brought up.

I think that Chipotle is a boring restaurant with fairly tasteless burritos. Seriously, there's like no flavor.

Bertielee

Quote from: tri.ad on June 20, 2011, 10:52:02 AM
I've arrived at a point where I'm just taking notice of what MP has to say about his departure and nothing more. It's more or less just more of the same imo.
All eyes on DT, I guess. At least, that's what applies to me.

Given that I've never ever been interested in what MP has done outside DT, that applies to me too.

B.Lee