Drummer Rumor

[Global Laziness]

But maybe Macaluso is better, I dunno. I don't remember being overly impressed by what I heard.

That's how I feel about Mangini. *shrugs*

That's cool. I mean, you kind of have to be impressed by his speed, but the rest of pretty subject to interpretation. So I can understand.

Yeah, exactly. People keep telling me to check out this and that and all I see is speed and nothing else.

Did you check out anything from JLBs first three albums?

I've listened to those albums before a few times but never to focus on the drumming. I was planning on doing that either today or tomorrow, actually.

[Adami]

Just don't start with Crucify haha.

Listen to the Mullmuzzler albums. Horrible recording quality on the drums, but the playing is ace.

[Global Laziness]

Alright, just finished listening to all three albums, and I'll be honest: Mangini still isn't doing it for me. His drumming often seemed relatively basic. I know that the albums are primarily intended to showcase James, but there was still nothing memorable about what Mangini was playing. Nothing made me go "Wow, I would love to hear this guy play with Dream Theater". Hell, nothing really seemed especially interesting or noteworthy at all. I can feel fully comfortable saying that if Dream Theater picked him, I will be very disappointed. And not because I wanted another guy more, but because I'm just not a fan of Mangini.

That being said, I have a renewed appreciation for James LaBrie's solo albums now.

[Raziel666]

John is currently in Europe working on Ark's new album, doing clinics and teaching throughout Dec/Jan.

I agree with the above, this does not need a new thread and I think given the evidence so far, three things will happen. It will wither be Mike Mangini, Marco M or DT is holding up the announcement because Mike has apparently 'begged 'the band to let him drum on the new album (per the MP forum and a new apparent Mike Portnoy Interview posted on there).

Link for that interview plz?

[alpheus94]

 

This is what Mike just posted about that interview.




https://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/m2621861.aspx

[alpheus94]

I have been lurking for awhile and just never wanted to make any comments but I just saw this over on MPs forum and thought this is going to make for some serious conversation the next couple of days............

[Rafael Guerra]

Macaluso sounds like a great choice. Just one off-topic comment...As I was listening to "Burn The Sun", I couldn't stop to notice how similar the intro of the song "Noose" is to "This Dying Soul"; except that Mike's drumming is better in TDS (IMO).

EDIT: Nah...never mind, not that similar.

[emindead]

Just for the record, this is indeed true..

Fairly recently, I reached out to the guys to try and make amends and offered to reconcile for the sake of having peace back in our lives...(plus I know how much it meant to alot of the fans...)

I figured it was still possible to try and save us because they hadn't made any announcements yet or begun any public activity with another drummer...but sadly, they declined my offer (well, actually their lawyer did...they didn't even tell me themselves....)

Sorry gang, I honestly gave it my all...
So now the fans on my twitter and facebook can please stop asking me to go back to DT...I tried, and the door is now shut...the ball is now in their court, not mine...

PS - I'm not crying or looking for mercy by posting this...I am merely trying to set the record straight as that is always the most important thing about my relationship with you guys...no BS, no spins, nothing to hide...and for better or for worse, I tell it like it is...

I've also recently seen some people accuse my online activity of "looking for attention or media coverage" or "looking for sympathy", but it's honestly none of the above...I merely value having an open and active communication with my fans...always have, always will...it is the cornerstone of everything I've done since day #1 with DT....

This was posted here FOR YOU GUYS to know about...here on MY message board on MY website....if it ends up on Blabbermouth or wherever else, that is THEIR choice to spread, I did not request it or send out a "press release"....

Anyways, onward and upward...
I've got alot of great music and ideas waiting to come out of me and alot of exciting collaborations in the works....so goodbye 2010...bring on 2011!

MP

[KevShmev]

Bring on the announcement!

[Mladen]

Bring on the announcement!

[Darkes7]

Things like above is why I will always respect MP despite of any mistakes.

[TAC]

Things like above is why I will always respect MP despite of any mistakes.

Yeah, I agree.
Sounds like things actually were pretty band in the band. It's too bad it came to this point.

[xeper]

On the subject of Macaluso, also check out MCM's "Ritual Factory" album for some outstanding drumming from him. Great musician.

[skydivingninja]

That was a good forum post from Portnoy. 

[blackngold29]

Anyone else feel like the longer it takes DT to announce their drummer the worse this'll get? Just give us a name, it won't kill anyone, and everyone moves on. The longer it gets dragged out the more we have stuff like this.


Just an observation: MP says about not sending out a press release and "if it ends up on Blabbermouth or wherever else, that is THEIR choice to spread," but the reason he is writing this in the first place is in response to the thread's original post in which he states this information in an interview with a magazine. Surely he wasn't expecting them not to spread it? I don't think he's trying to get in the news by saying this (the whole concept of 'DT trying to get headlines' is a joke), but just thought I'd throw that out.

[hefdaddy42]

Things like above is why I will always respect MP despite of any mistakes.

Why?

[Bertielee]

Things like above is why I will always respect MP despite of any mistakes.

Why?

Why indeed?

[Rina]

Bring on the announcement!

This.

But that's cool that you heard that TV, wish we had a more guaranteed way of knowing. 

[Global Laziness]

Things like above is why I will always respect MP despite of any mistakes.

Yeah, I agree.
Sounds like things actually were pretty band in the band. It's too bad it came to this point.

[TAC]

Things like above is why I will always respect MP despite of any mistakes.

Yeah, I agree.
Sounds like things actually were pretty bad in the band. It's too bad it came to this point.

Fixed!

[Darkes7]

Things like above is why I will always respect MP despite of any mistakes.

Why?

Because he's simply honest. He's not trying to prove he's perfect or how the band is evil, he just said how it was and how he feels about it. But most of all, this:
I've also recently seen some people accuse my online activity of "looking for attention or media coverage" or "looking for sympathy", but it's honestly none of the above...I merely value having an open and active communication with my fans...always have, always will...it is the cornerstone of everything I've done since day #1 with DT....

[Dcrupi]

Things like above is why I will always respect MP despite of any mistakes.

Why?

Because he's simply honest. He's not trying to prove he's perfect or how the band is evil, he just said how it was and how he feels about it. But most of all, this:
I've also recently seen some people accuse my online activity of "looking for attention or media coverage" or "looking for sympathy", but it's honestly none of the above...I merely value having an open and active communication with my fans...always have, always will...it is the cornerstone of everything I've done since day #1 with DT....

Perhaps if he used more ellipses, he would convey the 'omg i'm so sad' mode a little more effectively. 

Also, can't say I agree Darkes7.  MP's a great guy, and I still like him, but he's hardcore digging for sympathy here.  He has, and continues to, smear the band, however subtly he does it here with his "well actually their lawyer did, they didn't even tell me themselves."  First of all, this does not describe how much interaction the band and MP had PRIOR to the lawyer giving the final word, and even if it WERE absolutely true, it is no way pertinent to his statement.  He's trying to color the situation to make himself look wronged and the band more evil.  I'm not saying that's his main goal by releasing such a statement, but you're incorrect to say he's not trying to smear one way or the other. 

[Darkes7]

Seriously, I don't get it. What are you expecting him to do? Dance and jump from happiness because YAY, he left the band and realised it wasn't a good decision?

He simply said the truth. Sorry, but I'd like to know both sides of the story. We already know MP's mistakes, but I don't think the band handled it flawlessly either. A black and white world would be simpler, but it's not like this.

[LKap13]

I agree with Darkes. While he's been histrionic and narcissistic in the past, I don't think his recent actions qualify as either of those. I'm thankful for his constant updates because it's cool to get news from the source.

[Rina]

I agree with Darkes. While he's been histrionic and narcissistic in the past, I don't think his recent actions qualify as either of those. I'm thankful for his constant updates because it's cool to get news from the source.

I agree on updates being good. It's better to be excessively informed (in some cases) than not at all. 

[ariich]

Guys, this is a thread about the John Macaluso. Keep the ridiculous comments on MP's character in the relevant thread.

[nikatapi]

I've been listening to John Macaluso's album "The Radio Waves Goodbye" , and i think that he is a very inspiring and groovy drummer. I would be quite happy with him at the DT drum stool, but i haven't heard much double bass work to have a more complete idea of his drumming.

[Major Thirteenth]

The only thing that can be said with certainty about the next drummer is that he will basically be a hired gun on probation for at least a year, maybe two. Pretty much the same plan as Avenged Sevenfold with whomever they decide to tour with in the next year.

As I recall, it was the same situation with Jordan until it had definitely "worked out".

So I would not get all worked up about "The Selection".

It will be an audition, not an addition.

[KevShmev]

The only thing that can be said with certainty about the next drummer is that he will basically be a hired gun on probation for at least a year, maybe two. Pretty much the same plan as Avenged Sevenfold with whomever they decide to tour with in the next year.

As I recall, it was the same situation with Jordan until it had definitely "worked out".

So I would not get all worked up about "The Selection".

It will be an audition, not an addition.

How is that a certainty?  The band has said that they are looking for a new permanent drummer, not a hired gun. 

[ReaPsTA]

The only thing that can be said with certainty about the next drummer is that he will basically be a hired gun on probation for at least a year, maybe two. Pretty much the same plan as Avenged Sevenfold with whomever they decide to tour with in the next year.

As I recall, it was the same situation with Jordan until it had definitely "worked out".

So I would not get all worked up about "The Selection".

It will be an audition, not an addition.

I don't think that's what happened with Jordan at all.  The band thought he was the right guy for DT's future and asked him to rejoin.

Derek was originally a hired gun.  But in that case, they just initially wanted a new touring keyboardist with band potential.

[Bertielee]

I'm just fed up with the people saying here that the new drummer will only be a hired gun and be asked to go after a couple of years at best! It's only wishful thinking! Geez, you don't know anything about it AT ALL!

B.Lee

[Stoneyman]

Unless DT decides to drop the news on a random day, we are probably looking at either Christmas or New Years Day for the announcement.

Might make sense announcing it as the new year/new drummer message to fans.

Mangini, Lang, Macaluso, Priester, Minneman ?

We are in for one great year I suspect.

[hefdaddy42]

The only thing that can be said with certainty about the next drummer is that he will basically be a hired gun on probation for at least a year, maybe two. Pretty much the same plan as Avenged Sevenfold with whomever they decide to tour with in the next year.

As I recall, it was the same situation with Jordan until it had definitely "worked out".

So I would not get all worked up about "The Selection".

It will be an audition, not an addition.

I don't think that's what happened with Jordan at all.  The band thought he was the right guy for DT's future and asked him to rejoin.

Derek was originally a hired gun.  But in that case, they just initially wanted a new touring keyboardist with band potential.

This.  Jordan wasn't a hired gun when he joined the band.  Derek was, but was then made a member.

[Major Thirteenth]

I'm just fed up with the people saying here that the new drummer will only be a hired gun and be asked to go after a couple of years at best! It's only wishful thinking! Geez, you don't know anything about it AT ALL!

B.Lee

The new drummer will not be announced as a hired gun. But he will be. There is no way the new drummer becomes a full vested member in the band from a legal and financial sense without at least a year of vetting including a complete album/tour cycle.

It really can't be any other way. You don't know anything about a new member until you've written with him, and toured with him. Regardless of his prior background. So the new drummer will be announced as the "new drummer of Dream Theater". But he will, in reality, be a hired gun with a year or so to prove whether he is a fit.

[Major Thirteenth]

How is that a certainty?  The band has said that they are looking for a new permanent drummer, not a hired gun. 

For public and fan consumption, he will be the new drummer. Behind the scenes and in the legal/financial sense, he will be spending a year or so on the casting couch.