What if MP wants to come back now?

[Perpetual Change]

I just read the A7X press release. Man, Mike dearly needs to do damage control.

rumborak

You mean the couple sentences from M. Shadows or is there something else now?

[RazielSR]

And "metal listeners" are more important than everyone else are they?

No, who says that?

Indeed he could.

Yes, he could.

For a start, I can't imagine many people who don't like metal enjoying A7X

Sorry dude, but this is just ignorant. I can imagine many people who don't like metal enjoying A7X

You don't seem to even know what point you're trying to make.

I think that's happening to you.

We simply said that A7X are bigger than DT, globally. Nothing to do with genre, or anything like that. They are bigger, in that more people know of them, and they have a bigger fanbase. DT probably have the more dedicated fanbase as they've been around a lot longer, but that's about it.

That is false, that's not happening in Europe. Just in USA or UK.

[KevShmev]

A7X has an album that debuted a 1 and 4 in the US, and two golds and a platinum album. DT's highest charting album is 6 and have one gold album.

No question that A7X has a larger fanbase. They are signed to a record label in Warner Bros. that is much more pop oriented.

And that's what I need to read, nothing more. It's all clear now. A pop band, popular for casual listeners, far away from me. Thanks for the info.

This makes zero sense.  

I don't like A7X, but to say they are a pop band doesn't make any sense.

[bosk1]

RazielSR, this thread isn't about whether or not you like A7X.  Stop arguing with people and taking the thread off topic.

[RazielSR]

EDIT: and the names:


M. Shadows
Zacky Vengeance
Synyster Gates
Johnny Christ


Shit, the new x-men movie

That alone should have earned this Spaniard a little slack around here.  

Could you explain to me what do you mean by "this Spaniard"?

[hefdaddy42]

He means that you are from Spain.

[RazielSR]

He means that you are from Spain.

Oh well, then that American should have earned a little snack around here 

[hefdaddy42]

He means that you are from Spain.

Oh well, then that American should have earned a little snack around here 

I don't think he's hungry.

[El Barto]

To be fair, he's probably somewhat right about the relative popularities here and there.  AV7 played ab 3k seat venue two months ago in Barcelona.  DT's last tour through there was in a 13k seat arena.  While we have no idea how well these things sold, it does stand to reason that they were allowing for greater capacity.

Worldwide, I suppose AV7 does have a larger fanbase, but the dilution of the American Hot-Topic set probably skews that quite a bit.  I wouldn't be surprised if that weren't a very large demographic in Europe.  .

Edit:  starving, BTW.  Lunch time here in Dallas.

[RazielSR]

RazielSR, this thread isn't about whether or not you like A7X.  Stop arguing with people and taking the thread off topic.

Hi there bösk, you are right and I was not talking about it since this morning and I didn't have any intention, but now I see people is posting again and quoting my words just trying to start a fight.

[RazielSR]

He means that you are from Spain.

Oh well, then that American should have earned a little snack around here 

I don't think he's hungry.

OMFG, what did I wrote there  . Well, anyway I was just joking.

[RazielSR]

I wouldn't be surprised if that weren't a very large demographic in Europe.  .

Edit:  starving, BTW.  Lunch time here in Dallas.

They are not popular in Europe, Barto. Do not forget the "snack"  

[RazielSR]

A7X has an album that debuted a 1 and 4 in the US, and two golds and a platinum album. DT's highest charting album is 6 and have one gold album.

No question that A7X has a larger fanbase. They are signed to a record label in Warner Bros. that is much more pop oriented.

And that's what I need to read, nothing more. It's all clear now. A pop band, popular for casual listeners, far away from me. Thanks for the info.

This makes zero sense.  


I don't like A7X, but to say they are a pop band doesn't make any sense.

Well, they are really POPular in USA and UK, isn't it? 

[bosk1]

RazielSR, this thread isn't about whether or not you like A7X.  Stop arguing with people and taking the thread off topic.

Hi there bösk, you are right and I was not talking about it since this morning and I didn't have any intention, but now I see people is posting again and quoting my words just trying to start a fight.

Yes, because you are posting and posting and posting, so people are responding, responding, responding.  If you have something on topic to say, feel free to contribute.  If you are going to continue taking the thread off topic, you are going to be asked to leave.

[hefdaddy42]

I could go for a snack.

bosky?

[blackngold29]

A7X has an album that debuted a 1 and 4 in the US, and two golds and a platinum album. DT's highest charting album is 6 and have one gold album.

No question that A7X has a larger fanbase. They are signed to a record label in Warner Bros. that is much more pop oriented.

And that's what I need to read, nothing more. It's all clear now. A pop band, popular for casual listeners, far away from me. Thanks for the info.

This makes zero sense.  

I don't like A7X, but to say they are a pop band doesn't make any sense.

I meant it in the sense that they are more popular in the mainstream, not of the boy band pop-sounding genre. They're quite rock/metal, especially their early stuff.

[bosk1]

I could go for a snack.

bosky?

[Bone_Daddy]

M. Shadows
Zacky Vengeance
Synyster Gates
Johnny Christ

Shit, the new x-men movie

Fucking LOL - well said. About pissed myself reading that.

[RazielSR]

RazielSR, this thread isn't about whether or not you like A7X.  Stop arguing with people and taking the thread off topic.

Hi there bösk, you are right and I was not talking about it since this morning and I didn't have any intention, but now I see people is posting again and quoting my words just trying to start a fight.

Yes, because you are posting and posting and posting, so people are responding, responding, responding.  If you have something on topic to say, feel free to contribute.  If you are going to continue taking the thread off topic, you are going to be asked to leave.

That's not true. Dude,  you can ban me if you want but if you read the whole thing, you'll see that I started to talk about A7X asking why people says is that popular, people started to get mad here because he didn't want to see that A7X is not popular outside USA or UK and there are another almost unkown bands selling more than A7X in Europe. Then I stopped the thing and suddenly some people quoted my posts to start a fight. And other people talked after me about the real purpose of the topic. Man, now I'm just answering to the quotes. If somebody quote my words, I'm not allowed to reply? How is that? Ban me if you want then, if you think it's right and correct. Anyway, from my part the Avenged Sevenfold thing is over and I don't need to comment anything more.

[hefdaddy42]

Chill out, man, or he will ban you.  He just banned ME, and I just asked him if he wanted a snack!

[Bone_Daddy]

I think the closest thing to figuring how Mangini would sound in DT is to check out Mullmuzzler's Venice Burning.

I'd add Steve Vai's Fire Garden Suite, Mangini's best recorded work so far.

This.

Fire Garden.

[emindead]

mmmm No. DT are bigger here and you forget that in Europe (not UK, cause UK is like a second USA, not similar to the rest of Europe in many things) Nordic metal and german metal are much more popular.

Classy.

Y pues, joder, impresionante que un tío como tú sepa otra lengua que el español.

[emindead]

He means that you are from Spain.

In that case he should've said "Spanish". At least that's the "politically correct" way.

[Global Laziness]

I just read the A7X press release. Man, Mike dearly needs to do damage control.

rumborak

The "too press release-happy" thing? That seemed more indicative of Dream Theater on the whole rather than strictly Mike.

[hefdaddy42]

He means that you are from Spain.

In that case he should've said "Spanish". At least that's the "politically correct" way.

Since when?  "Spaniard" doesn't mean anything other than "a person who is from Spain." 

[skydivingninja]

I just read the A7X press release. Man, Mike dearly needs to do damage control.

rumborak

The "too press release-happy" thing? That seemed more indicative of Dream Theater on the whole rather than strictly Mike.

Yeah, but DT only had 4 press releases about the thing: DT's, JP's, JR's, and JLB's.  All of them sad "we're very sad but we're going to go forward and we're very optimistic.  We wish Mike the best."  The rest of it was in interviews (like James talking about how excited they were).  For every passive-aggressive comment or jab that MP posted, there was no response from DT's side.  None at all, save James clarification about his excitement that got Mike in a tiff.  My guess is that A7X mentioned both parties to make it fair.  

[Nihil-Morari]

He means that you are from Spain.

In that case he should've said "Spanish". At least that's the "politically correct" way.

Since when?  "Spaniard" doesn't mean anything other than "a person who is from Spain." 

And now back on topic 

[theusualmadness]

I just read the A7X press release. Man, Mike dearly needs to do damage control.

rumborak

The "too press release-happy" thing? That seemed more indicative of Dream Theater on the whole rather than strictly Mike.

Yeah, but DT only had 4 press releases about the thing: DT's, JP's, JR's, and JLB's.  All of them sad "we're very sad but we're going to go forward and we're very optimistic.  We wish Mike the best."  The rest of it was in interviews (like James talking about how excited they were).  For every passive-aggressive comment or jab that MP posted, there was no response from DT's side.  None at all, save James clarification about his excitement that got Mike in a tiff.  My guess is that A7X mentioned both parties to make it fair.  

A7X fans are a bunch of 10 year old kids who can't read  J/K , but really...

[Bertielee]

He means that you are from Spain.

In that case he should've said "Spanish". At least that's the "politically correct" way.

Since when?  "Spaniard" doesn't mean anything other than "a person who is from Spain." 

What bothers me is the way he said "this Spaniard" : I find that a little condescending.
On topic, I hope if MP wants to come back, they won't let him in, at least not now. Not after all they've said about how they are excited about the new drummer and all.

B.Lee

[El Barto]

I always suspected that I was destined to one day cause an international incident with my use of language.

Regardless,  I tend to just assume that everybody here knows my writing style well enough to understand when I'm trying to be a dick and when I'm not.  For the noobs who don't know me, that was an instance when I was not.  Honestly, being one of the few people to stick up for him, I kind of thought that would be obvious.  

[EPICVIEW]

I always suspected that I was destined to one day cause an international incident with my use of language.





Classic^ EB!!

[Bertielee]

I always suspected that I was destined to one day cause an international incident with my use of language.

Regardless,  I tend to just assume that everybody here knows my writing style well enough to understand when I'm trying to be a dick and when I'm not.  For the noobs who don't know me, that was an instance when I was not.  Honestly, being one of the few people to stick up for him, I kind of thought that would be obvious.  

Well, I'm not exactly a noob and I don't know your writing style, but whatever...Failed to see the irony.

B.Lee

[OsMosis2259]

Where's this press release that everyone is talking about?

Edit: Nevermind maybe I should look around the forum more...

[lord-ruler]

Avanged Sevenfold have no class.  MP was there for them and they act as if he never existed.  "our session drummer has quit" is how they are acting about it.   MP sold a lot of tickets for them.

[TL]

Just saw the A7X press release. It really lacks class. I mean, I can actually see that being a valid reason for them to not continue on with him, but it's the kind of thing you keep private. You don't announce that kind of thing to the world; it just strikes me as immature.