What if MP wants to come back now?

[ariich]

@Rumbo: Yeah but what exactly are you expecting him to do? "Yes it's true, A7X kicked me out against my wishes". He's just told it like it is. And again he doesn't make any reference to it being HIS plan, it was THEIR initial plan that they have now chosen to revert to. Of course he softens the blow, I don't deny that, but there is no truth bending of any kind, and I think it's very unfair of you to insist that it's what he was doing.

[Metabog]

"The band has decided to carry on into 2011 without me..." was like a Deja Vu 

At least he didn't tell them to take an extended break while he goes to play with Dream Theater.

[Fuzzboy]

Dear Dream Theater,

Please announce who the new drummer is so I can get on with my life again. Thanks.


  -Fuzzboy

[lordxizor]

No kidding. The speculation is a bit crazy at this point, but I can't say I'm not intrigued. I've been spending way more time than usual at DTF waiting for the announcement.

[robwebster]

Dear Dream Theater,

Please announce who the new drummer is so I can get on with my life again. Thanks.


  -Fuzzboy

Aye, this, basically. I'm getting bored of the wait. (Although I'm maybe 65% sure it's probably Mangini, at this point.)

Although I would probably get rid of that last bit since I'm not actually called Fuzzboy.

 -ariich

[metalpete]

actually he has "lost" three gigs this year as I see it. DT, A7x and the Åkerfeld/ Wilson project who he also was planned to have been involved with. Who knows maybe Mustaine needs a new drummer, it seems to me that both Mustaine and Portnoy are controlfreaks that maybe isn't so easy to work with..........Think how much fun/ drama it would generate to have them in the same band.

[Metabog]

No kidding. The speculation is a bit crazy at this point, but I can't say I'm not intrigued. I've been spending way more time than usual at DTF waiting for the announcement.

I should be sleeping because I have a plane in the morning, but I've just been refreshing this page every 5 seconds.

[blackngold29]

actually he has "lost" three gigs this year as I see it. DT, A7x and the Åkerfeld/ Wilson project who he also was planned to have been involved with. Who knows maybe Mustaine needs a new drummer, it seems to me that both Mustaine and Portnoy are controlfreaks that maybe isn't so easy to work with..........Think how much fun/ drama it would generate to have them in the same band.

I think the Wilson/Aker thing was just fan rumors and hopefulls. I don't remember actually hearing anything from those guys that he was seriously interested or a possibility.

[Metabog]

Can't believe this is the same drummer from Falling Into Infinity and Awake bouncing from band to band now playing mainstream rock.

[Kyo]

I think the Wilson/Aker thing was just fan rumors and hopefulls. I don't remember actually hearing anything from those guys that he was seriously interested or a possibility.

Mike himself brought up the whole thing (on his forum I believe), so it was
more than just rumours. I never heard Wilson or Akerfeldt mention the
name Mike Portnoy when they talked about their collaboration, though.

[KevShmev]

I think Akerfeldt might have mentioned him once or twice, but in the multiple interviews I read with Wilson where it was mentioned, he always referred to it as a Wilson/Akerfeldt thing.  My guess is that Akerfeldt probably mentioned to Portnoy that the duo were wanting to do a project at some point, and Portnoy was like, "I'd love to be a part of it," and Akerfeldt was like, "Cool.  We'll see what happens." 

[TL]

Right now, Portnoy is the 5th highest trending topic on twitter.
I don't really use twitter and I'm not 100% sure what exactly that means, but that's pretty cool.

[orcus116]

I think Akerfeldt might have mentioned him once or twice, but in the multiple interviews I read with Wilson where it was mentioned, he always referred to it as a Wilson/Akerfeldt thing.  My guess is that Akerfeldt probably mentioned to Portnoy that the duo were wanting to do a project at some point, and Portnoy was like, "I'd love to be a part of it," and Akerfeldt was like, "Cool.  We'll see what happens." 

That's how I've always seen it.

[ronnibran]

I've been excited thinking about what DT might do without Mike. . .  But I don't see any reason they couldn't change things up and deliver a great album with him either.  That said, I don't think he's coming back.

Really the thing I think that brought the last couple of albums down (for me at least) were the cheesy lyrics.

[volwrath]

Does anyone find it interesting that A7X hasn't issued a statement about MP's contributions and also to thank him?

[blackngold29]

There's a pretty large campaign (I guess you could call it that) on twitter to get MP back to DT. Lots of retweeting going on. I don't know why people can't just let them do what they want.

[ReaPsTA]

I don't understand what's confusing about MP's AX7 post.

He was seriously interested in joining the band, and probably at least wanted to tour longer with them.  Based on the baby steps article, he was excited about his future with the band.

AX7 decided it was time to find a permanent drummer, which meant MP was out.  I don't know if he feels betrayed necessarily, but AX7 didn't see their relationship the same way he did, very possibly because of something he said/did.  Of course that's crushing.  But he doesn't want to imply that they screwed him over, so he cushioned the language as much as possible.

[volwrath]

I don't understand what's confusing about MP's AX7 post.

He was seriously interested in joining the band, and probably at least wanted to tour longer with them.  Based on the baby steps article, he was excited about his future with the band.

AX7 decided it was time to find a permanent drummer, which meant MP was out.  I don't know if he feels betrayed necessarily, but AX7 didn't see their relationship the same way he did, very possibly because of something he said/did.  Of course that's crushing.  But he doesn't want to imply that they screwed him over, so he cushioned the language as much as possible.

I agree with everything you said.  Nonetheless screw A7X anyway. MP might be a control freak, but hes our control freak dammit, and too good for A7X

[rumborak]

I don't understand what's confusing about MP's AX7 post.

He was seriously interested in joining the band, and probably at least wanted to tour longer with them.  Based on the baby steps article, he was excited about his future with the band.

AX7 decided it was time to find a permanent drummer, which meant MP was out.  I don't know if he feels betrayed necessarily, but AX7 didn't see their relationship the same way he did, very possibly because of something he said/did.  Of course that's crushing.  But he doesn't want to imply that they screwed him over, so he cushioned the language as much as possible.

That's exactly my interpretation of it too. At there very least, he was probably hoping to buy some more time with A7X in order to get something new going that he could smoothly transition into. Now the pressure is on for him, because not only doesn't he have something directly lined up, but it also looks as if two separate band parted with him.

Regarding something he said/did, I would argue it's something he *is*. A7X in the last few months has not been "Avenged Sevenfold", they were "the band Mike Portnoy plays in, the guy who had a fall-out with his previous band". A7X is well- advised to get rid of him quickly in order to not be in the shadows of their interim drummer.

rumborak

[Stoneyman]

Face it, no matter how great MP is, he probably cramped those young dudes' style big time.  They couldnt really party like they have been rumored to do and I am sure they want to get a new member in the fold soon so they can continue with momentum into their next phase.  Makes sense to me.

I just wonder why all of MP's tweets sound like he is the victim?  Am I reading them this way or do they give any of you that impression?

Either way, new DT with the new guy soon enough and cool MP stuff to listen to next year too I am sure.

maybe MP will get back to his practice room at home and start getting better!?  That would be scary sick if the great MP can take his playing to an even higher level.

Dude, cue the Rocky montage!!!  Picture MP running through the snow with a log on his back!  Or maybe sprinting on the beach in some striped tube socks(aka party socks)!  MP can return with the eye of the fucking tiger!

[blackngold29]

That'd be sweet if MP started doing little YouTube videos like Jordan does.

[Perpetual Change]

I think Akerfeldt might have mentioned him once or twice, but in the multiple interviews I read with Wilson where it was mentioned, he always referred to it as a Wilson/Akerfeldt thing.  My guess is that Akerfeldt probably mentioned to Portnoy that the duo were wanting to do a project at some point, and Portnoy was like, "I'd love to be a part of it," and Akerfeldt was like, "Cool.  We'll see what happens." 

Nah. I saw in an interview with Steve Wilson where he said that Mike and him have been talking about working together on something since they've toured together back in 2000, but both bands have been in too high demand to do anything. I'm sure that project will actually materialize... eventually. Mike and Mike have also been talking about working on something together for a long time. It seems like Portnoy caught wind up that they were both working together, and made some connection in his head that both projects could be combined into one. RR would probably like that.

[bosk1]

I don't understand what's confusing about MP's AX7 post.

He was seriously interested in joining the band, and probably at least wanted to tour longer with them.  Based on the baby steps article, he was excited about his future with the band.

AX7 decided it was time to find a permanent drummer, which meant MP was out.  I don't know if he feels betrayed necessarily, but AX7 didn't see their relationship the same way he did, very possibly because of something he said/did.  Of course that's crushing.  But he doesn't want to imply that they screwed him over, so he cushioned the language as much as possible.

That's exactly my interpretation of it too. At there very least, he was probably hoping to buy some more time with A7X in order to get something new going that he could smoothly transition into. Now the pressure is on for him, because not only doesn't he have something directly lined up, but it also looks as if two separate band parted with him.

Regarding something he said/did, I would argue it's something he *is*. A7X in the last few months has not been "Avenged Sevenfold", they were "the band Mike Portnoy plays in, the guy who had a fall-out with his previous band". A7X is well- advised to get rid of him quickly in order to not be in the shadows of their interim drummer.

rumborak

I agree.  But although nothing concrete was ever said about Mike finishing the tour with them, I believed he would.  Initial plan or not, it is extremely odd to me that they are going to cut him loose mid-tour.  It certainly seems to reflect poorly on someone in the equation, whether it is Mike or the guys in A7X.

[Faustusmedea]

May never know, but is it not possible the band asked him to sign on full time and Mike couldn't commit (for tons of reasons) and when they realized they were not getting permanent portnoy goodness, they said fuck it, lets get busy finding a drummer? The reason MP is feeling betrayed is because he thought they had a verbal on 2011 touring.

[antigoon]

Also, why hasn't Avenged Sevenfold released a statement?

[KevShmev]

Also, why hasn't Avenged Sevenfold released a statement?

Why do they need to?  To announce that their 2010 touring drummer, who was never an official member of the band, is no longer touring with them? 

[Shadow2222]

A7X is already playing again on January 20, so it is likely that A7X has planned this for awhile, or they really want to get risky with time wasted to audition a drummer and make sure he knows the tour songs.

[pinchylarue]

correct me if i'm wrong but, wasn't the reason MP left DT because he wanted a break? Why does mike make it sound so depressing that A7X parted ways? He and We all knew this day would come anyways.

at least now he can take his time off which is what his original plan was right?
I just don't hope he comes crawling back to DT after realizing he has nothing to do now.
don't get me wrong I wouldn't mind MP coming back, but not for the reason that "you only appreciate you had until after it's gone" type deal.

[TL]

So, taking bets now;
Who will announce their new drummer first? DT or A7X?

[pinchylarue]

dt considering he is already chosen

[Perpetual Change]

Also, why hasn't Avenged Sevenfold released a statement?

Why do they need to?  To announce that their 2010 touring drummer, who was never an official member of the band, is no longer touring with them? 

Eh, at lot of A7X fans seem to have assumed MP was the full time guy, honestly. Just look at some of the comments on Deathbat. Justified or not, they do owe their fans some kind of explanation.

[tri.ad]

Also, why hasn't Avenged Sevenfold released a statement?

Why do they need to?  To announce that their 2010 touring drummer, who was never an official member of the band, is no longer touring with them? 

Eh, at lot of A7X fans seem to have assumed MP was the full time guy, honestly. Just look at some of the comments on Deathbat. Justified or not, they do owe their fans some kind of explanation.

Frankly, while it would be a nice move, I don't agree with it. Personal issues are a band's business (A7X being no exception), so there are no debts or duties in giving the fans the explanation. Granted, due to many A7X fans being obviously a bit upset, it wouldn't surprise me if they actually did release an explanation or something in that way, but they really don't owe them anything like that.

[SnakeEyes]

I thought the whole reason Portnoy left DT was TO play in Avenged Sevenfold.  It wasn't that he wanted a break from MUSIC, but rather a break from DT. 

[orcus116]

Nah. Portnoy had started with Avenged well before any of this stuff with DT happened.

[Mladen]

And apparently he was considering suggesting the guys in Dream Theater a break while The Rev was still alive and well.