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john petrucci level technique

Started by palmeiras, December 16, 2015, 06:42:45 AM

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Sir GuitarCozmo


Onno


YtseJamittaja

Sometimes it's just too good to read 4 pages of random thread which I have passed earlier  :lol


whahibrido pickingant - the new Kevin Moore

Another_Won

How would one go about pronouncing "whahibrido pickingant?"

Big Hath

one does not simply pronounce whahibrido pickingant.  It is a state of being.

RaasMah

I still dont understand the whahibrido pickingant joke :-[

SuperTaco


RaasMah

Quote from: SuperTaco on December 20, 2015, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: RaasMah on December 20, 2015, 12:06:39 PM
I still dont understand the whahibrido pickingant joke :-[

Go to page 1.

I did, but couldnt figure it out. I found the malmsteen video (awesome one :lol) but still didnt got the pickngant joke ???

lucasembarbosa

Quote from: RaasMah on December 21, 2015, 05:07:55 AM
Quote from: SuperTaco on December 20, 2015, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: RaasMah on December 20, 2015, 12:06:39 PM
I still dont understand the whahibrido pickingant joke :-[

Go to page 1.

I did, but couldnt figure it out. I found the malmsteen video (awesome one :lol) but still didnt got the pickngant joke ???

Check OP

RaasMah

Quote from: lucasembarbosa on December 21, 2015, 05:16:32 AM
Quote from: RaasMah on December 21, 2015, 05:07:55 AM
Quote from: SuperTaco on December 20, 2015, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: RaasMah on December 20, 2015, 12:06:39 PM
I still dont understand the whahibrido pickingant joke :-[

Go to page 1.

I did, but couldnt figure it out. I found the malmsteen video (awesome one :lol) but still didnt got the pickngant joke ???

Check OP

Heh I think I only saw that on the comment below and somehow missed it in the original post. Ill stop embarrassing myself now :(

Prog Snob

Quote from: RaasMah on December 21, 2015, 07:44:52 AM
Quote from: lucasembarbosa on December 21, 2015, 05:16:32 AM
Quote from: RaasMah on December 21, 2015, 05:07:55 AM
Quote from: SuperTaco on December 20, 2015, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: RaasMah on December 20, 2015, 12:06:39 PM
I still dont understand the whahibrido pickingant joke :-[

Go to page 1.

I did, but couldnt figure it out. I found the malmsteen video (awesome one :lol) but still didnt got the pickngant joke ???

Check OP

Heh I think I only saw that on the comment below and somehow missed it in the original post. Ill stop embarrassing myself now :(

You can keep doing it for our amusement actually.   ;)

Thematt202

I still don't get the pickingant thing.  A dodgy autocorrect of "whatever he wants" is all I can come up with....?

Bertielee

Quote from: Thematt202 on December 22, 2015, 12:21:35 AM
I still don't get the pickingant thing.  A dodgy autocorrect of "whatever he wants" is all I can come up with....?

There's nothing to understand. It's the whahibrido pickingant, is all.

B.Lee

SwedishGoose

Quote from: Thematt202 on December 22, 2015, 12:21:35 AM
I still don't get the pickingant thing.  A dodgy autocorrect of "whatever he wants" is all I can come up with....?

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If you can't understand it without an explanation, you can't understand it with an explanation.

Zydar

The first rule of whahíbrido pickingant is not understanding whahíbrido pickingant.

Moor

Quote from: palmeiras on December 16, 2015, 06:42:45 AM
Ok i never saw jp slapping but i Don t think it s that hard

I did! In fact it is that hard but when your attacked b a cannibal curator you have no other choice!

Prog Snob

So it's obvious it wasn't a misspelling. It's too far away from any word to be something intelligible, even in another language. My question is... If it was indeed auto-correct, when did he use it before for it to auto-correct it to that?  :eek

Sir GuitarCozmo

It sure looks like it is supposed to mean "hybrid picking".  whaHIBRIDo PICKINGant.  Probably just a glitch in the translation, although he did use the term "hybrid picking" later on in the OP.  Not sure.

Kwyjibo

Every attempt at explaining whahibrido pickingant is futile because you can't explain it, you have to experience it.

Prog Snob

I work for New York City Transit. You have not experienced exercises in futility until you've tried to logically solve a problem here. You don't scare me with your whahibrido pickingant threats.   :lol

kirksnosehair

I've never really thought of Petrucci as a "shredder."  He's more of an acrobatic player to my ears.  I'm not saying he can't shred.  He can definitely shred with the best of them, I think.  But he doesn't really do a whole lot of that kind of playing - I think he got most of that out of his system with "Train of Thought"  :lol   Just sayin  ;D


The LTE albums and his solo album

gabeh1018

shawn lane, guthrie govan, al di meola, paul gilbert, brett garsed... just to name a few

there will always be guitarists who can out duel the next in terms of their technical ability, speed, clarity etc.
but like what others have said, what I have always loved most about JP is his uncanny ability to combine every element: technique, emotion, feel, note choice and ability to tell a  story with his guitar solos
that being said...
I still think Steve Vai is unsurpassed in his ability to take his listeners on a musical journey where he's not just playing notes, but creating a musical soundscape i.e. erotic nightmares, fire garden suite




The Presence of Frenemies

Quote from: Prog Snob on December 22, 2015, 04:35:15 AM
So it's obvious it wasn't a misspelling. It's too far away from any word to be something intelligible, even in another language. My question is... If it was indeed auto-correct, when did he use it before for it to auto-correct it to that?  :eek

What I love about it isn't just that it looks strange. It's that it was initially phrased as a poll option--i.e. Option 1: JP is a great shredder, specifically as evidenced by his whahibrido pickingant. None of the other options had any such specificities.

In The Name Of Rudess

Quote from: gabeh1018 on December 22, 2015, 04:06:30 PM
shawn lane, guthrie govan, al di meola, paul gilbert, brett garsed... just to name a few

there will always be guitarists who can out duel the next in terms of their technical ability, speed, clarity etc.
but like what others have said, what I have always loved most about JP is his uncanny ability to combine every element: technique, emotion, feel, note choice and ability to tell a  story with his guitar solos
that being said...
I still think Steve Vai is unsurpassed in his ability to take his listeners on a musical journey where he's not just playing notes, but creating a musical soundscape i.e. erotic nightmares, fire garden suite

This. Coming from classical music, I never really got this whole emphasis on technique that exists in rock/metal music. In the classical scene, a virtuoso technique is simply seen as a prerequisite after which you learn to express emotion, which is IMO what music is all about. I think there are far too many rock/metal players who have technique but are stunted in their expression. To clarify, I'm not making the old profiency!=expression argument here; virtuosity definitely doesn't have to affect expressive capability (as evidenced by classical musicians). It's just that the playing of these rock/metal players often lacks every aspect needed to express emotion, such as phrasing/dynamics/inflections/etc. I remember this video of Tony Macalpine playing a version of a Chopin Etude on piano, which while technically proficient was the most lifeless and robotic I'd ever heard due to the absence of these elements. I think Petrucci's skills in composition and expression are very underrated while actually being the things that make him stand out from the crowd. Technique is simply a matter of how much of your life you're willing to spend synching your physical movements with a metronome. Sure, it shows some determination, but technique alone makes you an entertainer, a trapeze artist, and quite an ineffective entertainer at that, since your audience is typically limited to other musicians. Anyone (without a motoric disorder) can develop virtuoso technique. Now, composing interesting and original pieces and achieving expression, that's something very different and much less straightforward to develop. Looking at history, this is what musicians are ultimately remembered for, and I think JP has these things.

Bertielee

#129
Quote from: gabeh1018 on December 22, 2015, 04:06:30 PM
shawn lane, guthrie govan, al di meola, paul gilbert, brett garsed... just to name a few

there will always be guitarists who can out duel the next in terms of their technical ability, speed, clarity etc.
but like what others have said, what I have always loved most about JP is his uncanny ability to combine every element: technique, emotion, feel, note choice and ability to tell a  story with his guitar solos
that being said...
I still think Steve Vai is unsurpassed in his ability to take his listeners on a musical journey where he's not just playing notes, but creating a musical soundscape i.e. erotic nightmares, fire garden suite

You're perfectly right about Vai, but I think it's his most impressive quality as well as his most impressive flaw, in the sense that he sometimes loses me by going too far.

On topic, what amazes me the most about JP is his ability to write solos that always fit the songs they're in.

B.Lee

YtseJohn

In Laymen's terms, whahibrido pickingant simplified(Fedora Edition): https://youtu.be/VHIxxH7_g9U?t=426

kirksnosehair