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Started by erik16, June 02, 2009, 03:10:37 AM

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Super Dude

*inserts random appreciation for Blood by OSI and You Go Now by Chroma Key*

:metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
:superdude:

Plasmastrike

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 02, 2009, 08:14:51 AM
I don't think why he changed matters. He changed, he moved on, he's making music he likes now, and so are DT.

If you look at it that way, almost everything we talk about doesn't 'matter'.  The OP is just curious, that's all.  He's allowed to ask a question without someone saying what he's wondering doesn't matter.

Quote from: KevShmev on June 02, 2009, 08:10:59 AM
No one knows for sure, but it obviously was a slow process.  It is not like he woke up one day and thought, "Hmmm, I don't like prog metal anymore; I think I'll leave the band to make different kinds of music." 

As for why he changed, why does anyone change?  It happens.  People's tastes change.  That also happens. 

I think that sums it up pretty well in an unbiased way.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Plasmastrike on June 03, 2009, 06:42:59 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 02, 2009, 08:14:51 AM
I don't think why he changed matters. He changed, he moved on, he's making music he likes now, and so are DT.

If you look at it that way, almost everything we talk about doesn't 'matter'.  The OP is just curious, that's all.  He's allowed to ask a question without someone saying what he's wondering doesn't matter.


I never said anything about not discussing (we already know nothing we say here matters), just saying that his reasons don't change the facts. It's been 15 years, he's moved on and making new music, and so are DT.

porksoda

Quote from: icysk8r on June 02, 2009, 07:28:58 PM
Quote from: Portrucci on June 02, 2009, 04:55:43 AM
I also want to know the specific reason he left. How did his musical tastes change? What did they change to?
He left because he wanted to pursue his own musical endeavors, as a solo artist. We see how well that worked out.  :neverusethis:
He now lives in Istanbul, Turkey near SeroX [he saw km in a coffee shop]
Actually, he lives in Florida now, I believe.

Plasmastrike

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 03, 2009, 06:45:50 AM
Quote from: Plasmastrike on June 03, 2009, 06:42:59 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 02, 2009, 08:14:51 AM
I don't think why he changed matters. He changed, he moved on, he's making music he likes now, and so are DT.

If you look at it that way, almost everything we talk about doesn't 'matter'.  The OP is just curious, that's all.  He's allowed to ask a question without someone saying what he's wondering doesn't matter.


I never said anything about not discussing (we already know nothing we say here matters), just saying that his reasons don't change the facts. It's been 15 years, he's moved on and making new music, and so are DT.

I understand what you mean now.  I took it a different way, my fault.

Pierced Brosnan

Quote from: Chino on June 02, 2009, 06:23:22 AM
He didn't like John Myung.

Watch this excerpt from a documentary, he says so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zCcE43n6Rw
Who on Earth is this John Myung character of which you speak? Is he the random Chinese dude in that video? What does he have to do with DT?
:justjen ???


SeRoX

Quote from: porksoda on June 03, 2009, 06:57:17 AM
Quote from: icysk8r on June 02, 2009, 07:28:58 PM
Quote from: Portrucci on June 02, 2009, 04:55:43 AM
I also want to know the specific reason he left. How did his musical tastes change? What did they change to?
He left because he wanted to pursue his own musical endeavors, as a solo artist. We see how well that worked out.  :neverusethis:
He now lives in Istanbul, Turkey near SeroX [he saw km in a coffee shop]
Actually, he lives in Florida now, I believe.

No he lives in Turkey! About 1-2 weeks later he is going to give a concert I guess!

porksoda

Ah, I just read that he's vacationing in Florida at the moment. Nevermind!

Super Dude

Quote from: SeRoX on June 03, 2009, 10:20:51 AM
Quote from: porksoda on June 03, 2009, 06:57:17 AM
Quote from: icysk8r on June 02, 2009, 07:28:58 PM
Quote from: Portrucci on June 02, 2009, 04:55:43 AM
I also want to know the specific reason he left. How did his musical tastes change? What did they change to?
He left because he wanted to pursue his own musical endeavors, as a solo artist. We see how well that worked out.  :neverusethis:
He now lives in Istanbul, Turkey near SeroX [he saw km in a coffee shop]
Actually, he lives in Florida now, I believe.

No he lives in Turkey! About 1-2 weeks later he is going to give a concert I guess!

Well then, I guess that explains your posts.
:superdude:

Leeb Rocks

Quote from: Parama on June 02, 2009, 06:48:36 PM
This thread reminded me to tell you all that there's a teacher named Kevin Moore at my school...

How open does he seem?

perfey


rumborak

Quote from: Parama on June 02, 2009, 06:48:36 PM
This thread reminded me to tell you all that there's a teacher named Kevin Moore at my school...



Quote from: PlaysLikeMyung on June 02, 2009, 05:58:49 PM
Who has the picture of the All Roads Lead to Kevin Moore sign?



rumborak

Portrucci

Quote from: rumborak on June 03, 2009, 01:06:05 PM



rumborak


:lol :lol :lol never gets old. (and it's still true to a degree  :biggrin: )

hefdaddy42

Classic pic, but not really appropriate in this thread.  Here, we started out talking about Kevin Moore.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

BlobVanDam

JORDAN RUDESS



There, now it can be valid.

Leeb Rocks

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 04, 2009, 03:45:37 AM
JORDAN RUDESS



There, now it can be valid.

Not if the conversation stays on JR.

I like Blind Faith.

PlaysLikeMyung

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on June 04, 2009, 03:44:52 AM
Classic pic, but not really appropriate in this thread.  Here, we started out talking about Kevin Moore.

I was just wondering where the pic was. And since it was a KM thread, it seemed appropriate to ask.

perfey

One thing I've always wondered is if Kev has kept in touch with anyone of the guys in Dream Theater when he left them in '94. Especially John Petrucci since it was his childhood friend. You know they maybe don't go out with in to the fans.

Super Dude

:superdude:

SeRoX

It seems, this thread i mean Kevin Moore is being a big, veryyyyyyy big legend in DT's history!

Why he left,
Why nobody tried to stop him,
Why this anger all about,
Why,
Why,
?????
Secret, doubts... so we have nothing after all talkings.

tri.ad

He's rather a mystery than a legend.

orcus116

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 04, 2009, 03:45:37 AM
JORDAN RUDESS

*ANGRILY RIPS HIS SHIRT OPEN BRUCE BANNER STYLE*

hefdaddy42

Quote from: SeRoX on June 04, 2009, 10:30:22 AM
It seems, this thread i mean Kevin Moore is being a big, veryyyyyyy big legend in DT's history!

Why he left,
Why nobody tried to stop him,
Why this anger all about,
Why,
Why,
?????
Secret, doubts... so we have nothing after all talkings.
And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend
And I'll never be open again
And I'll have no more dreams to defend
And I'll never be open again
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Super Dude

:superdude:

ack44

Kevin Moore = Syd Barrat

icysk8r

I am a big fan of his music with dt.  I hate his personality.  According to MP, he was very uptight, no fun to work with, frustrating, and he has his ways of working which aren't very conducive to collaboration.  Also, didn't they invite him to wdadru, but he refused?  And he just pretty much abandoned the band for himself.  When you are in a band, it is more than just making music.  It is a family, and a promise that you will stay with the band, and devote your life to the band.  That shouldn't be broken for what you want to do.
And I am not bashing him, any "insults" came directly from and interview with mp on blabbermouth.  My only opinion is that I don't like kevin's personality.

Super Dude

Ah, but you are young and inexperienced; you have not experienced a full-out KevMo debate. :biggrin:
:superdude:

KevShmev

#62
Quote from: icysk8r on June 04, 2009, 07:53:53 PM
I am a big fan of his music with dt.  I hate his personality.  According to MP, he was very uptight, no fun to work with, frustrating, and he has his ways of working which aren't very conducive to collaboration.  Also, didn't they invite him to wdadru, but he refused?  And he just pretty much abandoned the band for himself.  When you are in a band, it is more than just making music.  It is a family, and a promise that you will stay with the band, and devote your life to the band.  That shouldn't be broken for what you want to do.
And I am not bashing him, any "insults" came directly from and interview with mp on blabbermouth.  My only opinion is that I don't like kevin's personality.

:lol :lol :lol

Is this a serious post?  

So, basically, you hate his personality based on what Portnoy says it is. :lol

Also, if Moore is a [insert any derogatory name here] for abandoning the "family," then I guess the rest are also [insert that name again with an 's' at the end] for firing Charlie Dominic and Derek Sherinian, right?  Or is it okay for them to fire someone and kick them out of the family, but not okay for someone to leave the family on their own?  

I mean, let's get real.  Joining a band doesn't mean you are tied to that band for life, like you suggested.  Musicians leave bands and bands fire musicians all of the time.  It happens.  Get over it.

Super Dude

Quote from: KevShmev on June 04, 2009, 08:25:00 PM
Joining a band doesn't mean you are tied to that band for life, like you suggested.  Musicians leave bands and bands fire musicians all of the time.  It happens.  Get over it.

Fixed, and quoted for emphasis.  Line-ups change all the time, especially in prog.  That's just how music works.
:superdude:

icysk8r

You guys seem to be missing many parts of my thread.  so I will quote and bold the parts you missed.
Quote from: icysk8r on June 04, 2009, 07:53:53 PM
I am a big fan of his music with dt.  I hate his personality.  According to MP, he was very uptight, no fun to work with, frustrating, and he has his ways of working which aren't very conducive to collaboration.  Also, didn't they invite him to wdadru, but he refused?  And he just pretty much abandoned the band for himself.  When you are in a band, it is more than just making music.  It is a family, and a promise that you will stay with the band, and devote your life to the band.  That shouldn't be broken for what you want to do.
And I am not bashing him, any "insults" came directly from and interview with mp on blabbermouth.  My only opinion is that I don't like kevin's personality.



KevShmev

No, I got that.  It's just that, we have nothing to base that on, except from the mouth of Portnoy, who has shown to be somewhat bitter about his ex-bandmate, so you have to take his words with a grain of salt.  For all we know, maybe Kevin Moore thinks Portnoy's ways of working aren't conducive to collaboration (which would make sense, since Portnoy is on record as being someone who argues until he gets his way). 

And what about your comments about family and all of that?  You still sticking by that?

millahh

KM actually spoke very graciously about MP's contributions to the first two OSI records (interview links are in the OSI threads in Music Discussion)...compare that to how MP bitched about those sessions...shouldn't be so fast to take one side of the story as Truth...
Quote from: parallax
QuoteWHEN WILL YOU ADRESS MY MONKEY ARGUMENT?? ?? NEVER?? ?? THAT\' WHAT I FIGURED.: lol[\quote]

Super Dude

Is this in one of the new Blood interviews or what?
:superdude:

ack44

Quote from: KevShmev on June 04, 2009, 08:25:00 PM
So, basically, you hate his personality based on what Portnoy says it is. :lol

NO FUN

orcus116

Quote from: ack44 on June 04, 2009, 07:35:03 PM
Kevin Moore = Syd Barrat

If that's the case then DT has yet to find their Gilmour.