Chris Collins hurts my ears

[rumborak]

Here's another comparison: They're both heavily using their prior DT membership as leverage for their current musical careers.

rumborak

[Zook]

Charlie's gonna give you such a pinch.

[Perpetual Change]

Here's a contrast: Dominici's solo career is actually decent.

[hefdaddy42]

Here's another comparison: They're both heavily using their prior DT membership as leverage for their current musical careers.

rumborak

Equally valid comparison.

[Perpetual Change]

Here's another comparison: They're both heavily using their prior DT membership as leverage for their current musical careers.

rumborak

Equally valid comparison.

So valid that apparently neither Dominici's Music Myspace nor the front page of the Dominici website mention anything about Dream Theater. DT aren't even one of Dominici's top friends.

[Adami]

Here's another comparison: They're both heavily using their prior DT membership as leverage for their current musical careers.

rumborak

Equally valid comparison.

So valid that apparently neither Dominici's Music Myspace nor the front page of the Dominici website mention anything about Dream Theater. DT aren't even one of Dominici's top friends.

At this point he wouldn't need to. How many Dominici fans do you think he has that weren't DT fans first and only heard about him because of his relationship to DT?

[hefdaddy42]

^That^

[Perpetual Change]

I think Dominici probably has the same amount of fans that "When Dream And Day Unite" had, honestly. Maybe a little more, but so what? One can hardly blame him for letting the fanbase know that he was back with a solo album. I don't see how that's "using DT for leverage," since the only people who bought Dominici's solo project were (obviously) those who like him as a singer, and a decent amount of Dream Theater fans do! The point is, there's not swarms of people buying Dominici albums just because he lets DT fans know what he's doing. We, the fans, know who he is and whether we're interested in it or not.

You can't compare it with Chris Collins. Most Dream Theater fans have probably never even heard his voice. Meanwhile, plenty of DT fans have heard Charlie's. And the faction of those who like his voice are happy to know what he's doing musically. Given the time he's put in, and his special status in the DT world, I think he has every right to reach out to the DT community without having to suffer being accused of "using" the band.

[ZBomber]

Here's the comparison: they both suck.

I'd expect more from a moderator, especially since Charlie is a MEMBER here. That's gotta count for a personal attack or something. Very distasteful. 

[hefdaddy42]

Here's the comparison: they both suck.

I'd expect more from a moderator, especially since Charlie is a MEMBER here. That's gotta count for a personal attack or something. Very distasteful. 

Well, allow me to retract and reiterate: neither of their vocal styles appeal to me in any way whatsoever, nor was either one well-suited to singing with DT.  I was in no way, shape, or form alluding to either person's personality or value as a human being.

[Seventh Son]

Here's the comparison: they both suck.

I'd expect more from a moderator, especially since Charlie is a MEMBER here. That's gotta count for a personal attack or something. Very distasteful. 

Wait, Charlie is a member here? 

[Jamesman42]

Here's the comparison: they both suck.

I'd expect more from a moderator, especially since Charlie is a MEMBER here. That's gotta count for a personal attack or something. Very distasteful. 

Wait, Charlie is a member here? 

The one and only.

[Seventh Son]

Here's the comparison: they both suck.

I'd expect more from a moderator, especially since Charlie is a MEMBER here. That's gotta count for a personal attack or something. Very distasteful. 

Wait, Charlie is a member here? 

The one and only.

Server Not Found.

[rumborak]

Here's another comparison: They're both heavily using their prior DT membership as leverage for their current musical careers.

rumborak

Equally valid comparison.

So valid that apparently neither Dominici's Music Myspace nor the front page of the Dominici website mention anything about Dream Theater. DT aren't even one of Dominici's top friends.

While Chris Collins actually mentions DT on the MySpace page, you'd have to be delusional to not think that 90% of Charlie's moderate success was facilitated by the fact that people wanted to hear what DT's old singer is doing.  Charlie was smart enough to not run around and mention DT all the time, but that doesn't mean he didn't use them as leverage.
And BTW,  same thing with KM.

rumborak

[Seventh Son]

Here's another comparison: They're both heavily using their prior DT membership as leverage for their current musical careers.

rumborak

Equally valid comparison.

So valid that apparently neither Dominici's Music Myspace nor the front page of the Dominici website mention anything about Dream Theater. DT aren't even one of Dominici's top friends.

While Chris Collins actually mentions DT on the MySpace page, you'd have to be delusional to not think that 90% of Charlie's moderate success was facilitated by the fact that people wanted to hear what DT's old singer is doing.  Charlie was smart enough to not run around and mention DT all the time, but that doesn't mean he didn't use them as leverage.
And BTW,  same thing with KM.

rumborak

I'm pretty sure Kevin Moore avoids any opportunity to have anything to do with Dream Theater. Otherwise he probably wouldn't avoided doing the anniversary shows.

[BRGM]

No one would've heard of him if he wouldn't have been in DT for 20 years ago!

I like his Work in O.S.I at least the song "Blood"

[rumborak]

I'm pretty sure Kevin Moore avoids any opportunity to have anything to do with Dream Theater. Otherwise he probably wouldn't avoided doing the anniversary shows.

KM obviously has generated enough momentum of himself with his stuff in Chroma Key and OSI to no longer be "guilty" of the aforementioned. But in the beginning he was as much riding on the "post-DT" wave as Charlie and Chris are.

rumborak

[contest_sanity]

Can you really blame any of these guys for using the DT name to help get their music heard?  I think any one of us would do the same thing.  And especially with Charlie, it was almost 15 years before he released his solo album, and only then after having done WDADRU, which they asked him to do.  So, in essence, DT brought him back onto the music scene; it's hard to think they would then begrudge him utilizing that connection to promote his own band.  And I don't think that they do. 

[rumborak]

Mind you, I am not saying he shouldn't have done it. He would have been stupid not to use his connection to DT to have people listen to his music. That said, I always thought his O2 and O3 stuff was specifically pandering to what he perceived would give him the biggest "in" with the DT crowd.

rumborak

[Perpetual Change]

Here's another comparison: They're both heavily using their prior DT membership as leverage for their current musical careers.

rumborak

Equally valid comparison.

So valid that apparently neither Dominici's Music Myspace nor the front page of the Dominici website mention anything about Dream Theater. DT aren't even one of Dominici's top friends.

While Chris Collins actually mentions DT on the MySpace page, you'd have to be delusional to not think that 90% of Charlie's moderate success was facilitated by the fact that people wanted to hear what DT's old singer is doing.  Charlie was smart enough to not run around and mention DT all the time, but that doesn't mean he didn't use them as leverage.
And BTW,  same thing with KM.

rumborak

I'm almost 90 percent sure that Dominici has more or less the same audience now that he did when WDADU was released. But I guess there's no use arguing about it.

[Dublagent66]

Allow me to clarify something here in regards to both Chris and Charlie.  If they both sucked, then they wouldn't have been given the opportunity to sing in the band in the first place.  Not being well suited to the band's style is something completely different.

That being said, I would pick Charlie over Chris if those were the only choices.  Charlie was older, more mature and experienced than Chris.  I liked Charlie's voice but it is true that he wasn't the guy for DT.  The band obviously saw something in both of them to give each singer a chance.  They just didn't work out, that's all.

[CountVoorhees]

I can sing better than Chris Collins.

[Slain]

"SUCKLE THE MILK OF THE WHORE"



But wow, the vocals are just...

[Madman Shepherd]

Sorry for resurrecting an old topic but Chris also said that he was never really suited for Majesty to begin.  There was an old topic on Metal Sludge that he posted in and basically said he was never that into Majesty's music but he still tried to sing the way they wanted to as a friend and being interested in giving it a shot.

Chris will be releasing a solo album soon and he sent me a few MP3s.  I can see a lot of people aren't that into his voice.  I have always liked theatricality in vocals so I really dig it.  I find it very reminiscent of some of the underground 80s horror/dark metal. 

If you are interested in keeping up to date with what Chris is doing, friend him on facebook at https://facebook.com/winterspellmetal

[lateralus88]

https://yourmajesty.ytmnd.com/
https://yourmajesty.ytmnd.com/
https://yourmajesty.ytmnd.com/
https://yourmajesty.ytmnd.com/
https://yourmajesty.ytmnd.com/
https://yourmajesty.ytmnd.com/
https://yourmajesty.ytmnd.com/
https://yourmajesty.ytmnd.com/
https://yourmajesty.ytmnd.com/
https://yourmajesty.ytmnd.com/

[Madman Shepherd]

Aw c'mon...those demos weren't the greatest quality either

[Sigz]

Oh man, I saw SeaWolf's post on the first page and got all excited thinking he had come back, then I looked at the date

Also,

https://yourmajesty.ytmnd.com/

HOLY FUCKING GOD MY EARS

[Ħ]

Winterspell is the worst thing I've heard this year.  What the heck was that.

[Elaitch]

Sorry for resurrecting an old topic but Chris also said that he was never really suited for Majesty to begin.  There was an old topic on Metal Sludge that he posted in and basically said he was never that into Majesty's music but he still tried to sing the way they wanted to as a friend and being interested in giving it a shot.

Chris will be releasing a solo album soon and he sent me a few MP3s.  I can see a lot of people aren't that into his voice.  I have always liked theatricality in vocals so I really dig it.  I find it very reminiscent of some of the underground 80s horror/dark metal. 

If you are interested in keeping up to date with what Chris is doing, friend him on facebook at https://facebook.com/winterspellmetal

Judging from the mp3s on the band page:

1. His growling is horrible
2. His high end falsetto is horrible
3. He has apparently pretty bad vocal control, or he's trying too much, since he's pretty much all over the place but is not steady in any vocal range.

... need I say more?

In conclusion, I'm glad DT didn't keep him after all

[Dr. DTVT]

Oh man, I saw SeaWolf's post on the first page and got all excited thinking he had come back, then I looked at the date

This.    I think I'm going to start a "Come back SeaWolf petition" thread and send it to him.

Ronnie James Dio tribute at Mulcahy's on LI

All bands will be performing Ronnie James Dio songs.

Bands scheduled to perform:
Cintron

As in Chris Cintron?  Because he actually could sing.  I'd be interesed in checking that out.

[Madman Shepherd]

Sorry for resurrecting an old topic but Chris also said that he was never really suited for Majesty to begin.  There was an old topic on Metal Sludge that he posted in and basically said he was never that into Majesty's music but he still tried to sing the way they wanted to as a friend and being interested in giving it a shot.

Chris will be releasing a solo album soon and he sent me a few MP3s.  I can see a lot of people aren't that into his voice.  I have always liked theatricality in vocals so I really dig it.  I find it very reminiscent of some of the underground 80s horror/dark metal. 

If you are interested in keeping up to date with what Chris is doing, friend him on facebook at https://facebook.com/winterspellmetal

Judging from the mp3s on the band page:

1. His growling is horrible
2. His high end falsetto is horrible
3. He has apparently pretty bad vocal control, or he's trying too much, since he's pretty much all over the place but is not steady in any vocal range.

... need I say more?

In conclusion, I'm glad DT didn't keep him after all

As am I but I disagree with everything else you said.  He's using his voice in a more theatrical and horror oriented way.  Man, you guys are so tough on him.  I can see how he is not everyones cup of tea but damn...if you're expecting James LaBrie or even Charlie Dominici then you're obviously going to be disappointed.  If you have seen his influences, you might understand more.  Like I said, not your cup of tea and thats cool but I don't spend my time listening to horrible vocalists but I do like me some Winterspell. 

[Jaq]

https://yourmajesty.ytmnd.com/

SWEET CHRISTMAS.

I've never gotten around to listening to the Majesty demos. Now I feel compelled to. 

[wolfking]

https://www.myspace.com/winterspell

Good lord, this is amazing!! 

[theseoafs]

I can't even believe that Winterspell song. Oh my god.

[bosk1]

Not really sure why people think most of the comments posted here are remotely constructive or acceptable--especially after I have had to clarify this issue in connection with Mike Portnoy in another thread.  But since people cannot seem to understand basic rules about posting in this thread, this discussion is now closed.