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The Answer Lies Within Appreciation/Discussion Thread

Started by Gadough, June 29, 2010, 07:23:09 PM

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Gadough

This song gets way too much hate in my opinion. I absolutely adore this song - if pressed, I might even say it would make my top 10. It connects with me on a personal level because I find the lyrics to be very encouraging, seeing as how I'll soon be moving out, beginning college, and starting a new chapter of my life. It's a song that, if I'm feeling particularly stressed about my future, I can listen to it and it calms me down a bit. It's a "everything will work out in the end" sort of song for me, and that makes it awesome.

Anyone else love it? Also, if you're one of the many who dislike it, please elaborate as to why. I'm curious and would like to see the song from some other perspectives.

ANightmareToRemember

This song was definitely a grower for me. While I liked it to a certain extent, I found that the more I came to love Dream Theater, I cam to love all of the work that they do. This song is a great example of a short, light song that hits you on many emotional levels and can even bring a tear to your eye if in the right mood. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna throw on Octavarium :millahhhh

Adami

It's not bad. It's just not DT. It's DT trying to sound like something other than themselves. You'll notice the songs they do this on are usually not liked much.
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fsh3702

Quote from: Adami on June 29, 2010, 07:56:11 PM
It's not bad. It's just not DT. It's DT trying to sound like something other than themselves. You'll notice the songs they do this on are usually not liked much.

not a typical DT song. i think it would be better if this song is arranged in the later part of the album.

Gadough

Quote from: Adami on June 29, 2010, 07:56:11 PMIt's just not DT. It's DT trying to sound like something other than themselves.

I don't know what you mean by this. It's just a simple, straightforward ballad. DT have been doing that since the beginning (Another Day).

hefdaddy42

Quote from: Adami on June 29, 2010, 07:56:11 PM
It's not bad. It's just not DT. It's DT trying to sound like something other than themselves. You'll notice the songs they do this on are usually not liked much.
It's not DT, you're right.  But it's also bad.  The lyrics are a cliche-ridden crappy attempt at New Age self-help.  And the music is bland to the point of not being interesting.  It's not sparse, stark, simple, or understated; it's just bland.

Bland music + awful lyrics = one of their worst songs.  Easily a bottom 5 for me.

But if you like it, then great.

But there is nothing simple or straightforward about Another Day.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Gadough

Well, it's shorter than most of the other songs on Images and Words and it's also softer, that's why I made the comparison.

Quadrochosis

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on June 29, 2010, 08:24:53 PM
Quote from: Adami on June 29, 2010, 07:56:11 PM
It's not bad. It's just not DT. It's DT trying to sound like something other than themselves. You'll notice the songs they do this on are usually not liked much.
It's not DT, you're right.  But it's also bad.  The lyrics are a cliche-ridden crappy attempt at New Age self-help.  And the music is bland to the point of not being interesting.  It's not sparse, stark, simple, or understated; it's just bland.

Bland music + awful lyrics = one of their worst songs.  Easily a bottom 5 for me.

But if you like it, then great.

But there is nothing simple or straightforward about Another Day.

All of this. One of DT's worst songs.

toro

Quote from: Quadrochosis on June 29, 2010, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on June 29, 2010, 08:24:53 PM
Quote from: Adami on June 29, 2010, 07:56:11 PM
It's not bad. It's just not DT. It's DT trying to sound like something other than themselves. You'll notice the songs they do this on are usually not liked much.
It's not DT, you're right.  But it's also bad.  The lyrics are a cliche-ridden crappy attempt at New Age self-help.  And the music is bland to the point of not being interesting.  It's not sparse, stark, simple, or understated; it's just bland.

Bland music + awful lyrics = one of their worst songs.  Easily a bottom 5 for me.

But if you like it, then great.

But there is nothing simple or straightforward about Another Day.

All of this. One of DT's worst songs.
THIS THIS THIS.

Besides it was a huge buzz killer, after TROAE

Nic35

Really good song. The Score version is amazing, I always loved how MP sings ''You're gonna SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE'' in that version.

TL

I like it. It would probably work better later in the album, but then the whole octave concept wouldn't work.

KevShmev

Nothing really special about this song, but I wouldn't call it a bad song per se.  I can see why some think it is bland.  I don't go out of my way to listen to it, but if comes on, more often than not I will listen to it.  If nothing else, I will take it over "These Walls" (which is much more boring), "Never Enough" (bland, cliched lyrics are better than bitching about fans ones) and "Sacrificed Sons." 

moffatt

I don't think its that bad, not the worst song on Octavarium for me.

?

I don't think TALW is bad at all but it shouldn't have been after TROAE in the tracklist.

darkshade

its not a song i usually want to put on when i want Dream Theater but if i listen to the album known as Octavarium, i thoroughly enjoy it, one of their better ballads IMO :yarr

orcus116

It's gotta be one of the most cliche, sappiest wastes of music I've ever heard in any genre. There is really no point in this song even existing other than to fill some space on an album.

Gadough

Quote from: orcus116 on June 30, 2010, 01:20:01 AM
It's gotta be one of the most cliche, sappiest wastes of music I've ever heard in any genre. There is really no point in this song even existing other than to fill some space on an album.

:lol

I called it. When I made this thread I just knew you would post something like this.

Silver Tears

Quote from: darkshade on June 30, 2010, 12:51:38 AM
its not a song i usually want to put on when i want Dream Theater but if i listen to the album known as Octavarium, i thoroughly enjoy it, one of their better ballads IMO :yarr

I agree. Especially with :yarr.

orcus116

Quote from: Gadough on June 30, 2010, 01:43:09 AM
Quote from: orcus116 on June 30, 2010, 01:20:01 AM
It's gotta be one of the most cliche, sappiest wastes of music I've ever heard in any genre. There is really no point in this song even existing other than to fill some space on an album.

:lol

I called it. When I made this thread I just knew you would post something like this.

Hey I gots a job to do.  :millahhhh

But I was seriously so disappointed and my excitement from TROAE died so fast when this track came on the first time I heard it. I just don't understand why they thought it was a good idea.

yeshaberto

I think the lyrics are cool, especially when you have kids.  It is the picture of a father passing on their wisdom to their child.  In that light, I can't see them encasing it in a TOT-style song.  Other than that, I will listen to it when it comes on, but that is about it.

John94

Not my favourite to be honest. I do however, liek the "you're gonna shiiine" part like most people.

Dublagent66

I didn't like it much at first, but I eventually came to appreciate it.  It's got some cool stuff in it, but nothing incredibly spectacular.  Overall, the lyrics and music are uplifting and positive.  That has to count for something even if people still don't like it.

Adami

Quote from: yeshua4 on June 30, 2010, 09:44:53 AM
I think the lyrics are cool, especially when you have kids.  It is the picture of a father passing on their wisdom to their child.  In that light, I can't see them encasing it in a TOT-style song.  Other than that, I will listen to it when it comes on, but that is about it.

The thing is, most of us aren't Petruccis kids. He wrote the song and sold it to us, not his kids. See, if the song were about say....dragons and monsters, that would be better.
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yeshaberto


Hoppipolla

 I honestly loved this song from the minute I heard it. It is completely different from everything they've done and I agree it's a little cliche' /new agey, but I have to admit, I love the lyrics. "You're gonna shiiiiiiiine" is my favorite part too!

bosk1

I don't hate the song by any stretch, but I agree with hef that it is exceedingly bland and lacks any sort of emotional punch whatsoever.  This is one of the VERY few DT songs that just feels like filler to me, except that it's obviously not filler because the band were obviously trying to construct something they considered emotional.  But listening to this song would be like eating plain tofu.  There's nothing even remotely interesting enough to make me even consider coming back for a second bite.

Gadough

I've never had tofu before, so I don't understand your analogy.

:neverusethis:

TL

While I already liked the song, I also associate it with a very personal, very positive memory, so that probably helps.

bosk1

Quote from: Gadough on June 30, 2010, 02:55:34 PM
I've never had tofu before, so I don't understand your analogy.

:neverusethis:

Then try to imagine water-flavored gelatin and that's probably close enough.

yeshaberto

isn't there some sort of rule about not discussing things as disgusting as tofu on the forum?

BRGM

I didn't like TALW at all untill I heard the Score version, now it's okay and soothing and kinda beautifull

juice

It's not a great song.  It's not a bad song.  But it's a good song.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BRGM on June 30, 2010, 03:48:11 PM
I didn't like TALW at all untill I heard the Score version, now it's okay and soothing and kinda beautifull
It's funny, I was at RCMH that night, and TALW was pretty much the only song that made everyone sit down. 
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

BRGM

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on June 30, 2010, 04:22:43 PM
Quote from: BRGM on June 30, 2010, 03:48:11 PM
I didn't like TALW at all untill I heard the Score version, now it's okay and soothing and kinda beautifull
It's funny, I was at RCMH that night, and TALW was pretty much the only song that made everyone sit down. 

Was it nice to see the entire concert live for real! ike, being there!!! :D

Gadough

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on June 30, 2010, 04:22:43 PM
Quote from: BRGM on June 30, 2010, 03:48:11 PM
I didn't like TALW at all untill I heard the Score version, now it's okay and soothing and kinda beautifull
It's funny, I was at RCMH that night, and TALW was pretty much the only song that made everyone sit down. 

That doesn't necessarily make it a bad song by itself - it isn't really a song I'd expect a moshpit to form for.