Dream Theater's Untitled 11th Album: Make a fake tracklist / title

[hefdaddy42]

There's got to be epics

No. See A Change Of Seasons used to be special because it was "the" epic. Now they've been crapping out long songs like they're nothing and it kinda shows. Not only are they not putting as much effort into them (see ITPOE) but it kind of takes away from the allure that ACOS has.

This.  There doesn't "have" to be epics.  WDADU, I&W, Awake, FII, SFAM, TOT - no epics.

[sneakyblueberry]

Am I the only one who thinks this thread is the ultimate fanboy gayness?

No one cares.

Oh, sweet.  Carry on.

[Nic35]

There's got to be epics

No. See A Change Of Seasons used to be special because it was "the" epic. Now they've been crapping out long songs like they're nothing and it kinda shows. Not only are they not putting as much effort into them (see ITPOE) but it kind of takes away from the allure that ACOS has.

This.  There doesn't "have" to be epics.  WDADU, I&W, Awake, FII, SFAM, TOT - no epics.

In The Name of God isn't an epic? To me this song is the perfect example of what an epic is.

[orcus116]

No. It's just a long song.

[Perpetual Change]

Newsflash, guys. These terms we use to describe rock music, like "epic," are loosely defined. Some people consider Stairway to Heaven to be an epic, even though that song is SHORT by DT standards. So "In the Name of God" can be an epic-- if you want it to. Being an "epic," for me, only has so much to do with how long a song is.

For me, I judge whether a song is an epic or not based on whether it goes places. For me, Learning to Live will always be an epic, because the song takes you on a journey, even though it's shorter than a number of more recent DT songs which aren't epics. And isn't that what epic means, at least from a literary point of view? In the Name of God is an epic too, at least in my view. That song goes places. The Ministry of Lost Souls, unfortunately, is a slopic. A long, sloppy attempt at an epic.

[hefdaddy42]

Well, whatever.  But for me, there is nothing epic about ITNOG.  It's just the longest song on that album. 

[orcus116]

Which is how people are defining the word epic nowadays. To me Black Clouds has no epics but to a lot of people you'll get at least "The Count of Tuscany" and maybe "A Nightmare to Remember" just because they happen to be long.

[skydivingninja]

Really Hef?  I find the "Justifying violence" part (esp. JLB's background screams), the outro, and the beginning to be all kinds of epic.  Its deserving of the epic title without being over twenty minutes.

Black Clouds has three epics: TSF, TBOT, and TCOT.  ANTR doesn't really evoke that sort of "epic" feel I get from classic songs like ACoS, Supper's Ready, or Starship Trooper. 

[hefdaddy42]

I can almost see the argument for TCOT, but I don't see anything remotely epic about ANTR either.

And TSF and TBOT certainly don't seem epic, either.  I don't understand that at all, SDV.

[Perpetual Change]

I think Tuscany's definitely an epic. A Nightmare to Remember, not really. I mean it does have that cool middle section but there's just too much of the same thing going on for me to really thing it takes you anywhere. Too much staying in the same place to be an epic. Hard to gauge TSF because it's part of the 12SS. And TBoT is just "Spirit of the Radio" with an extended sappy outro  

[j]

Really Hef?  I find the "Justifying violence" part (esp. JLB's background screams), the outro, and the beginning to be all kinds of epic.  Its deserving of the epic title without being over twenty minutes.

Generally, I don't throw around the "epic" label for songs (I'd say DT has maybe 4-6 songs I'd call "epics), but I actually agree about ITNOG.  I don't think it's a *great* song, but to me it's nothing if not "epic".  Epic doesn't necessarily say anything about quality.

I can almost see the argument for TCOT, but I don't see anything remotely epic about ANTR either.

And TSF and TBOT certainly don't seem epic, either.  I don't understand that at all, SDV.

I think Tuscany's definitely an epic. A Nightmare to Remember, not really. I mean it does have that cool middle section but there's just too much of the same thing going on for me to really thing it takes you anywhere. Too much staying in the same place to be an epic. Hard to gauge TSF because it's part of the 12SS. And TBoT is just "Spirit of the Radio" with an extended sappy outro 

Both of these.  IMO, TCOT is the only thing from BCSL that might qualify as an epic.

-J

[Killer123™]

"Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence"
now that's an epic


now wait a minute... are we going off-topic?

[hefdaddy42]

Yes.  Let's rein it back in, guys.

[Perpetual Change]

Time to rein it back in, then.

I don't know what the next album will be like, but I think it'll be a concept album like Octavarium or Six Degrees.

[AwakeFromOctavarium]

I don't know what the next album will be like, but I think it'll be a concept album like Octavarium or Six Degrees or AWAKE

[Aniland]

No. It's just a long song.

Wrong.

[Aniland]

Someone make a new fake album.

[ariich]

I think Tuscany's definitely an epic. A Nightmare to Remember, not really. I mean it does have that cool middle section but there's just too much of the same thing going on for me to really thing it takes you anywhere. Too much staying in the same place to be an epic. Hard to gauge TSF because it's part of the 12SS. And TBoT is just "Spirit of the Radio" with an extended sappy outro 

Well said Joe, I pretty much agree with all of this. When the hell does that ever happen?!

[Octavawake]

I made this cover. I'm not too sure about the songs.

Wow, reminds me of ACOS!!

That's rather epic.

[Octavawake]

Back to topic, how's this for an album.

Title: Images and Words

1 - Pull Me Under
2 - Another Day
3 - Take The Time
4 - Surrounded
5 - Metropolis Pt1 The Miracle and The Sleeper
6 - Under a Glass Moon
7 - Wait For Sleep
8 - Learning To Live

[Octavawake]

There's got to be epics

No. See A Change Of Seasons used to be special because it was "the" epic. Now they've been crapping out long songs like they're nothing and it kinda shows. Not only are they not putting as much effort into them (see ITPOE) but it kind of takes away from the allure that ACOS has.

This. You'll NEVER beat ACOS And you're right dude, it feels like there's just no effort in the epics nowadays apart from pointless waffle in a "look how good we are" sense.

[MykeHavoc]

The first time I heard the intro to ANTR, I thought " Fuck...this is epic".

Maybe you listened to it too many times, but I think ANTR is fairly massive. Not just in length, but in scope. I feel is qualifies.

[skydivingninja]

For the record: TSF is one of the most epic songs DT has done.  I still get goosebumps from it.

New fake album time!

Long Names and Pretentious Wankfests

1. Raise the Knife pt. 2: The Blue Beards and Blue Balls (Petrucci)-21:12
2. Nothing Traumatic Has Ever Really Happened to Me (Petrucci)-21:13
3. Flight of the Bongos (John Myung Bass Concerto)-6:30
4. Quick, Back to the Roots! (Petrucci)-8:27
5. Change (Petrucci/Myung/LaBrie)-6:54
6. I'm a Heavy Metal Bear Wizard Pirate Ninja Stickman! (Hidden Track)-0:05

Only one of these songs are a serious hope for the future.  Guess which one?

[bloop]

Back to topic, how's this for an album.

Title: Images and Words

1 - Pull Me Under
2 - Another Day
3 - Take The Time
4 - Surrounded
5 - Metropolis Pt1 The Miracle and The Sleeper
6 - Under a Glass Moon
7 - Wait For Sleep
8 - Learning To Live

My god I could never imagine myself listening to something like this.

[PlaysLikeMyung]

2. Nothing Traumatic Has Ever Really Happened to Me (Petrucci)-21:13
3. Flight of the Bongos (John Myung Bass Concerto)-6:30
6. I'm a Heavy Metal Bear Wizard Pirate Ninja Stickman! (Hidden Track)-0:05

lol

[icon_bleed]

DREAM THEATER - TABLETS OF DESTINY

1.Marked the path (11:26)
2.Parts of the unknown (8:62)
3.Signify (5:55)
4.Ultimate reign (10:01)
5.Carved the lines (9:09)
6.Kaleidoscope (20:10)

[Aniland]

Here's an album art; let your imagination run wild with the details.

[Jarlaxle]

Here's an album art; let your imagination run wild with the details.

this looks like a picture I would take with my phone.

[Aniland]

Rudess is in charge of the next album art then.

[Jarlaxle]

probably not. Let's just leave that to the professionals.

[ThroughHerEyesDude6]

Dream Theater
The Mnemic Jetty

Vision 1: Sight 1  -    1. Awakenings                     2:35
Vision 1: Sight 2 -     2. Vagabond Direction           8:56
                            3. This Place in Mind          
Vision 1: Sight 3 -     4. Bound to Break Walls         7:25
Vision 1: Sight 4 -     5. Masters                          9:43

Vision 2: Sight 5 -     6. Fast-Paced Rescue          16:30
                            7. Away Around    
                            8. Venture Forth in Time        
Vision 2: Sight 6  -    9. What I Must Do                9:21
                           10. Awakened          
Vision 2: Sight 7 -    11. My Mind Inside Itself         8:11

Vision 3: Sight 8 -    12. The Mnemic Jetty            15:00

                                                                    77:40

[hefdaddy42]

The first time I heard the intro to ANTR, I thought " Fuck...this is epic".

Maybe you listened to it too many times, but I think ANTR is fairly massive. Not just in length, but in scope. I feel is qualifies.

It's just a long metal song with a mellow interlude.  There's nothing really epic about it.  Not even the scope - it's about a horrible car accident where everyone survived.

[Aniland]

Dream Theater
The Mnemic Jetty

Vision 1: Sight 1  -    1. Awakenings                     2:35
Vision 1: Sight 2 -     2. Vagabond Direction           8:56
                            3. This Place in Mind          
Vision 1: Sight 3 -     4. Bound to Break Walls         7:25
Vision 1: Sight 4 -     5. Masters                          9:43

Vision 2: Sight 5 -     6. Fast-Paced Rescue          16:30
                            7. Away Around    
                            8. Venture Forth in Time        
Vision 2: Sight 6  -    9. What I Must Do                9:21
                           10. Awakened          
Vision 2: Sight 7 -    11. My Mind Inside Itself         8:11

Vision 3: Sight 8 -    12. The Mnemic Jetty            15:00

                                                                    77:40

Sincerely one of the coolest things ever.

[ThroughHerEyesDude6]

Dream Theater - Fire In My Eyes (2011)

All Music by DT

1. Over Three Hills - 22:09          (Petrucci)
2. Your Martyr - 7:50                 (Petrucci)
3. The End Of My Words - 14:36  (LaBrie)
4. Collide - 5:19                        (LaBrie)
5. Fire In My Eyes - 27:14          (Myung)

Total: 76:28
Produced by John Petrucci

[ThroughHerEyesDude6]

Dream Theater
The Mnemic Jetty

Vision 1: Sight 1  -    1. Awakenings                     2:35
Vision 1: Sight 2 -     2. Vagabond Direction           8:56
                            3. This Place in Mind          
Vision 1: Sight 3 -     4. Bound to Break Walls         7:25
Vision 1: Sight 4 -     5. Masters                          9:43

Vision 2: Sight 5 -     6. Fast-Paced Rescue          16:30
                            7. Away Around    
                            8. Venture Forth in Time        
Vision 2: Sight 6  -    9. What I Must Do                9:21
                           10. Awakened          
Vision 2: Sight 7 -    11. My Mind Inside Itself         8:11

Vision 3: Sight 8 -    12. The Mnemic Jetty            15:00

                                                                    77:40

Sincerely one of the coolest things ever.

Thanks brah. When I found this thread I thought of this right away. I sincerely am glad you enjoy it. Prog on!