From 1-5 Rate Systematic Chaos

[Zantera]

I gave it a 3, it's a good album.
1 ½ years back when i was in love with it, i would probably have given it a 4 or 5 though.

[Adami]

I actually re-listened to the album again recently. I'll break it down song by song.

1. ITPOE pt. 1 - Good song, very proggy, but feels incomplete (obviously). Dunno if it should have been broken in half the way it was.
2. Forsaken - Just boring. Very cool intro and music during the verse but the vocals are just horribly boring, as are the drums. Song just does nothing for me, feels very forced and uninspired.
3. Constant Motion - Love it, minus the chorus. The chorus just loses all of the momentum and energy. I am one of the few that likes the verses and such, despite the hetfieldness of it all. But the chorus really drags it down, as does the annoyingly dragged out ending.
4. TDEK - Annoyingly boring. The main riff is cool, but everything else is just lame and horribly uninteresting. Wanted to skip it so bad, eventually did during the ending.
5. Repentence is it? Is that track 5? Anyway, my favorite song off the album. It's perfect, no complaints.
6. PoW - Pointless, fun, but pointless. Actually the coolest parts are those little cable tricks JP did. You know, when he plugged it in and got that high noise? Sad.
7. TMOLS - I love the music, the vocals are........ok. But this song needs a lot of work. If they worked on this song for a while and really hammered it out it would be amazing. JR really shines on this, minus the annoying instrumental section......which does have a cool guitar solo. Also ending drags on wayyyyy too long.
8. ITPOE pt. 2 - Boring. Intro is cool, including the first verse, but the chorus is by far the worst thing they have done in a VERY long time. The heavy part was really cool at first, but it gets stale quickly. Also, horrible instrumental section and worse ending.

Better?

Also, the main problem I have with ITPOE is that they really do feel like two different songs. Obviously there are the connections that are cool, but they feel very different and the second half is no where near as good as the first half. If they had made it one track and made it consistent with the first half, it would have been better.

[BRGM]

Hehe,  for me it's like, The Reckoning on ITPOE 2 is the best part, I also love the instrumental section on TDEN, Constant motion is a little boring to me, the solos and intro/outro is cool, but it doesn't happen that much, forsaken is just..there, a good song, not very awesome, Repentance is cool, didn't like it at first but now I think it's pretty good, PoW is a nice, fast, powerish song that I've allways liked, TMOLS is second best on the album, with that cool instrumental section and that awesome ending solo that I wish would never end.

I gave it a 5 it's excellent

[AcidLameLTE]

I tried to listen to Systematic Chaos again today and I couldn't even make it past ITPOE Pt. 1.

[Sigz]

TDEK

I see what you did thar

[Adami]

TDEK

I see what you did thar

I try.

[BRGM]

The Dark Eternal Kite?

[BRGM]

When I'm comparin it too pre SFAM it's pretty ALOT! better

Holy shit.

Go post this in Controversial Music thread.

Controversial music thread?

[AcidLameLTE]

The Dark Eternal Kite?

[BRGM]

  whaaat?

[YtseBitsySpider]

Almost 70 percent think it's either just "good" or "mediocre."  Very revealing, and probably right on.

By the same token, almost 70 percent voted in the range of good to excellent.

That's very revealing, and probably right on.

"Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything. 14% of people know that"

[Nick]

I mean right now that statistic are pretty clear if you look at it without an agenda to prove.

7 1's and 7 5's. Large majority think it's good (35). 2 outweighs 4, 23 to 13.

From this I think it's fair to say that the album is mainly seen as good with a slight tip towards mediocre. On top of that the people who love the album are about as numerous as those who despise it, however neither of those groups is an overly large one.

[Gadough]

4.5

It's the album that got me into DT. Plus, it has my favorite Petrucci solo (favorite solo of all time, actually) in ITPOE1. Overall a fantastic album, although I can understand why someone who grew up on the earlier stuff could be turned off to it.

[TAC]

I give it a 3.8!

Still a great fun album to listen to. It's DT being DT and you can feel the band take a collective sigh after the emotion of Score. Not a masterpiece by any stretch, but if this is near the bottom of their catalog..well, then..that's one hell of a catalog.

[Jamesman42]

Mediocre, but only because it's DT.

[Silver Tears]

3. It's no where near their best but it's still a good album.

[Plasmastrike]

3. It's no where near their best but it's still a good album.

[ScioPath]

The Dark Eternal Kite?

[Dublagent66]

The Dark Eternal Kite?

The Dark Eternal Knight. Yes?


It's good to see that most of the votes are good.  I knew it was a good album.   

[LCArenas]

You rated ITPOE pt 1 lower than pt2??

Yes, because of this:

I've always considered part two better. The advantage has decreased over time, but it's still there.

I think PT.2 is more complete than part 1. Yes, the "Dark Master" chorus is corny as hell (I enjoy it, though), but the rest of the song is pretty good. The Reckoning, even if it's overlong, isn't a bad instrumental, and the ending is quite awesome.
I'd put it a 4.6 in decimal scale, but then again I approached it to 5.

[fsh3702]

Mediocre, but only because it's DT.

true. anything with a DT label seems better. and i watch too much constant motion video.

[EstyMaJ]

I voted good and was not shocked when i read the results , But it is a good listner and just not one of there wow factor albums for me .

[perfey]

3. It's no where near their best but it's still a good album.

This and

It is a good listener and just not one of there wow factor albums for me .

this.

[Adami]

Mediocre, but only because it's DT.

true. anything with a DT label seems better. and i watch too much constant motion video.

What I mean is, if another band released it, it would be amazing. But since DT released, I expect better from them.

[TheOutlawXanadu]

You should probably listen to better music if you are thinking like that.

[Adami]

You should probably listen to better music if you are thinking like that.

I should listen to better music if I hold bands I love up to high standards?

[TheOutlawXanadu]

No.

You should listen to better music because there are dozens upon dozens of great bands that have played on this Earth. Statements such as, "If another band released it, it would be amazing, but since DT released it, it is mediocre" give me the impression you have yet to realize this.

[Nick]

No, it means that he expects quality releases from Dream Theater because they have such a history of it. Because they have so many great albums he sees a 9/10 album from them as a disappointment, even though he would find that perfectly fine with a lot of other bands.

I know it's tough around here sometimes, but it's basically saying that *gasp*, they live Dream Theater more than other bands.

[Adami]

Nick gets it right.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

a perfect album. I re-watched the Making Of Documentary earlier today. 


Will always be one of my favorite albums ever.

[TheOutlawXanadu]

It is bizarre to me that one could like any one band so much more than other bands to call a mediocre release by their standards amazing by everyone else's.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

a perfect album. I re-watched the Making Of Documentary earlier today. 


Will always be one of my favorite albums ever.

Whoa

DoC 

[Nic35]

It is bizarre to me that one could like any one band so much more than other bands to call a mediocre release by their standards amazing by everyone else's.

Yeah that's strange.

[Nick]

Amazing may be a strong word, but here is how it works for me. Rush and Dream Theater are my two absolute favorite bands. The main reason why is for *ME*, they've put out a rich history of fantastic releases. I can honestly say I'd rate my least favorite Dream Theater album an 8/10, MAYBE a 7.5/10.

I come to expect better from bands I love, and with good reason. Obviously you wouldn't agree with the specific bands/albums, but it's tough to imagine you can't get a feel for the general theory.

[Adami]

It is bizarre to me that one could like any one band so much more than other bands to call a mediocre release by their standards amazing by everyone else's.

For instance. I like Godsmack (call me crazy), so when they release a good rockin album, I dig it. However, if DT released a Godsmack CD, I'd think it was horrible.