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Do you like Raw Dog?

Started by juice, March 02, 2010, 04:58:26 PM

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Aye or nope?

Aye
136 (70.1%)
Nope
58 (29.9%)

Total Members Voted: 194

Fiery Winds

Quote from: contest_sanity on March 02, 2010, 09:13:15 PM
Quote from: yeshua4 on March 02, 2010, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: ZKX-2099 on March 02, 2010, 09:08:03 PM
I need to create a new word meaning both evil and awesome to describe the intro.

awvil?

awevil

You have to keep the e.

Sounds too much like "awful".  Maybe evawlsome? (Eev-awl-sum)

antigoon

I like it. It's a nice romp. What Mr. 1 said about expectations is really interesting, though. Something I'd like to discuss further.

Oh, and to the thread creator: Thank you for creating a yes/no poll with the only two options being yes and no (aye/nope).

JoSeM90DT

Yep, the best track from the EP followed by Trivium's "Shattering the Skies Above" :metal

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ariich

Aye, it rocks pretty hard.

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Progmetty

Quote from: metty on March 02, 2010, 06:31:48 PM
Is the the track length 7:31? mine is and it feels like it cuts off suddenly..

I guess nobody knows the answer to that?

yeshaberto

Quote from: Fiery Winds on March 02, 2010, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: contest_sanity on March 02, 2010, 09:13:15 PM
Quote from: yeshua4 on March 02, 2010, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: ZKX-2099 on March 02, 2010, 09:08:03 PM
I need to create a new word meaning both evil and awesome to describe the intro.

awvil?

awevil

You have to keep the e.

Sounds too much like "awful".  Maybe evawlsome? (Eev-awl-sum)

I disagree...I think we need to start a poll


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perfey

Quote from: metty on March 03, 2010, 12:38:02 AM
Quote from: metty on March 02, 2010, 06:31:48 PM
Is the the track length 7:31? mine is and it feels like it cuts off suddenly..

I guess nobody knows the answer to that?
I think its 7:35, at least on the version I've heard. I like the song, but its nothing special, it but it fits it purpose to heavy backgroundmusic in a game. I rank it on the lowest spot Dream Theaters instrumentals, but that's not to say it's bad, its just nothing in it that grabs my attention.

Progmetty

Mine is 7:35 too but it cuts off suddenly at 7:31 then the rest is silent, I dunno.

Progmetty

Okay since no one here had a clue I compared my version to the youtube version, the youtube version fades out while mine just ends at 7:31 and the remaining 4 second are totally silent, dunno why it does that, I'm guessing it fades into the next track and since I only got Raw Dog it sounds like that.

In The Wake Of Poseidon

I thought it was a pretty neat track, but not one I would listen to regularly. Much better than the shitty Opeth track on that EP.

FlashCE

Quote from: JoSeM90DT on March 02, 2010, 10:34:36 PM
Yep, the best track from the EP followed by Trivium's "Shattering the Skies Above" :metal

I actually agree and I usually hate Trivium.

TheCor

after first listen, it's ok at best.   nothing all that memorable in the song, but i suppose that's alright for a video game; the music isn't supposed to really catch your ear that much or it would distract from the gameplay.  sounds like they tuned down to A and JP's usual guitar tone sounds kinda weak at a tuning that low.  the abrupt ending must mean this song is somehow a sequel to pull me under.   ;)  also, just got the trivium track from this album, IMO it's also subpar compared to their last couple albums.  i think i'll pass on getting the rest of the songs from this release.

hefdaddy42

ATM, I will say "no."  It is definitely the least of their instrumentals.  It sounds even less cohesive than The Dance of Eternity.

And WTF with people saying it's OK "in the context of the game."  It's not in the game. 
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FlashCE

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on March 03, 2010, 03:50:54 AM
ATM, I will say "no."  It is definitely the least of their instrumentals.  It sounds even less cohesive than The Dance of Eternity.

And WTF with people saying it's OK "in the context of the game."  It's not in the game. 

Also God of War games have always had metal music amirite?

Perpetual Change

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on March 03, 2010, 03:50:54 AM
And WTF with people saying it's OK "in the context of the game."  It's not in the game. 

From the way the band talked about the song initially, I wouldn't be positive they were that clear on it.  At least half of the press releases from when it was announced, especially those on the roadrunner side, said that the song was for the "Sountrack" and didn't mention anything about it being an an EP of "songs inspired by..." until later on.  The members also kept calling the game "Gods of War" for the longest time. I would not be able to guess whether they knew exactly what they were doing and what it was for.

It doesn't matter, though.  I think they did a good job either way.

Dark Master Of Sin

Especially seeing as the initial thread is
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Dream Theater in God of War III

bosk1

I would probably describe the song as The Dance Of Eternity's, Stream Of Consciousness', and The Dark Eternal Night's immature younger brother.  You all know him.  He's the kid with ADD who always seems a bit off, but is a blast to be around because he's just so nuts and doesn't take anything seriously.  And while you definitely see the family resemblance, he could also just as easily be adopted.

rumborak

As many have said, it's probably good as a video game soundtrack. It's not a good song. For that it's just too thrown-together.

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TAC

I do like it. It's a little King Crimsonish for me at the beginning and end, but I think it's just fine. Sure, it doesn't have the grace of Erotomania, but I'm happy with it. It's exactly as I expected.
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robwebster

Quote from: bösk1 on March 03, 2010, 06:29:34 AM
I would probably describe the song as The Dance Of Eternity's, Stream Of Consciousness', and The Dark Eternal Night's immature younger brother.  You all know him.  He's the kid with ADD who always seems a bit off, but is a blast to be around because he's just so nuts and doesn't take anything seriously.  And while you definitely see the family resemblance, he could also just as easily be adopted.
I like that. Really immature, but a blast to listen to.

(also, re: evil and awesome... "Evesome.")

Perpetual Change

Quote from: bösk1 on March 03, 2010, 06:29:34 AM
I would probably describe the song as The Dance Of Eternity's, Stream Of Consciousness', and The Dark Eternal Night's immature younger brother.  You all know him.  He's the kid with ADD who always seems a bit off, but is a blast to be around because he's just so nuts and doesn't take anything seriously.  And while you definitely see the family resemblance, he could also just as easily be adopted.

I kinda agree with this.  Though it's definitely got that trademark DT sound, and is not my least favorite DT instrumental, the most I'd want to see from it live would be combined with TDEN as an outro jam or something.

rumborak

I think what bugs me the most about the song is that it stays on one chord, for 8 minutes. What happened to DT's strong suit, their chord progressions?

rumborak

Nick

Listening for the first time, the first 30 or so seconds I didn't like at all, but it's been good since then.

Gorille85

If I'm not mistaken, they took 4 or 5 riffs that were left off during the black clouds sessions.

Adami

Quote from: Gorille85 on March 03, 2010, 08:37:05 AM
If I'm not mistaken, they took 4 or 5 riffs that were left off during the black clouds sessions.

I'm pretty sure those only ended up being used under the solos.
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yeshaberto

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on March 03, 2010, 03:50:54 AM
ATM, I will say "no."  It is definitely the least of their instrumentals.  It sounds even less cohesive than The Dance of Eternity.

And WTF with people saying it's OK "in the context of the game."  It's not in the game. 

oh, really.  I just figured it was something that was background music or something.  :P

Samsara

Quote from: Adami on March 02, 2010, 05:23:35 PM
It's hard to break down into a yes or no answer. I like the parts of the song, I just don't like it AS a song.

Pretty much this. I voted "nope" but it's ok. When you listen to it, you gotta remember it's sorta like score for a movie. It's background music. In that context, I think it works for that particular game. But as an instrumental "song," I just don't know.
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bosk1

Quote from: Perpetual Change on March 03, 2010, 07:32:53 AM...the most I'd want to see from it live would be combined with TDEN as an outro jam or something.

Well never really know how they'll play it until they play it since Mike in making his set lists likes to be as unpredictable as possible.  But my guess would be that it'll be played as part of a medley at some point in time, but will not be played in its entirety, except maybe as a one-off or something.

Dimitrius

I fucking hate when DT does medleys!!

Why don't they play they whole damn song!!

bosk1

Because they have a lot of material, and a lot of their songs are long, and there's no way they can play all the music they want to play in a set, so they try to at least acknowledge some of the other material by playing a sample of it in a medley.  What's the problem with that?

Zydar

Quote from: Dimitrius on March 03, 2010, 09:37:53 AM
I fucking hate when DT does medleys!!

Why don't they play they whole damn song!!

It makes me feel like Medley Schmedley!

Dimitrius

Quote from: bösk1 on March 03, 2010, 09:41:27 AM
Because they have a lot of material, and a lot of their songs are long, and there's no way they can play all the music they want to play in a set, so they try to at least acknowledge some of the other material by playing a sample of it in a medley.  What's the problem with that?
... don't tell me that seriously went over your head.

contest_sanity

Quote from: bösk1 on March 03, 2010, 09:41:27 AM
Because they have a lot of material, and a lot of their songs are long, and there's no way they can play all the music they want to play in a set, so they try to at least acknowledge some of the other material by playing a sample of it in a medley.  What's the problem with that?
I actually like the medleys, but sometimes I wish they'd drop the extended versions of songs like Hollow Years or Solitary Shell (despite their awesomeness) and use the extra minutes to play another song or two.