Re: DT16 Timeline Thread - John finished recording guitar parts

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

I'm sure the band will want to make it especially special on the music side, I'd give a 60% chance of a double album and 20% of Metropolis Pt. 3 happening.

By the way, I have this weird conspiracy / headcanon that The Astonishing was at some point supposed to be Metropolis Pt. 3, and it either evolved out of it or the band chickened out late in the process and removed the tenuous links to the loose Metropolis concepts.

i love that idea! when Arhys informs Daryus that Gabriel will be at Heaven's Cove (in "Moment of Betrayal") that could have totally been Nicolas. Even "arhys" kinda sounds like saying the name really fast

[Stadler]

Are Vans comfortable?  Never owned a pair, myself.   Chuck Taylor's, yep (not really comfortable; too flat for my feet). 

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

Are Vans comfortable?  Never owned a pair, myself.   Chuck Taylor's, yep (not really comfortable; too flat for my feet). 

I think they are, I walk all over Denver in them lol

[pg1067]

Re: Vans

I still buy a new pair of “Spiccolli Specials” once every couple of years.

I was a bit stunned when the kid working the counter was unaware that it was their flagship shoe…and he had never even heard of Fast Times at Ridgemont High.  Dude! You wouldn’t even BE here right now if it weren’t for THIS shoe being in THAT movie!! 

To me (and everyone I grew up with), THESE are the originals.  Slip-ons came into vogue for me because they were the only sneaker that my Catholic high school would allow boys to wear.  Whatever boost the company got from Fast Times didn't sustain it, and it filed for bankruptcy in the mid-'80s.  They made a big comeback in the late '90s with the advent of X-Games type competitions and the resurgence of skateboarding.

[Max Kuehnau]

[quote/] I only have two cd's in my entire collection... and that's because the band didn't release them properly on vinyl (Live Scenes and Greatest Hit). Once had so many music, but last years you'll only find Pink Floyds prettiest and Dream Theater in here...
[/quote]
well, makes sense that it wasn't released on vinyl, simply because LSFNY is three CDs with around 60 minutes on each, which would mean 2 LPs per CD, so that would mean it to be a 6LP set. That would turn out to be ridiculously expensive.

[jammindude]

Re: Vans

I still buy a new pair of “Spiccolli Specials” once every couple of years.

I was a bit stunned when the kid working the counter was unaware that it was their flagship shoe…and he had never even heard of Fast Times at Ridgemont High.  Dude! You wouldn’t even BE here right now if it weren’t for THIS shoe being in THAT movie!! 

To me (and everyone I grew up with), THESE are the originals.  Slip-ons came into vogue for me because they were the only sneaker that my Catholic high school would allow boys to wear.  Whatever boost the company got from Fast Times didn't sustain it, and it filed for bankruptcy in the mid-'80s.  They made a big comeback in the late '90s with the advent of X-Games type competitions and the resurgence of skateboarding.

Seriously WOAH.

I honestly had no idea, nor have I ever seen this style before. Shows what I know. 

[porcacultor]

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Another Day At The Office…
#DT16 #DreamTheater2024

Looks like Mike blurred out their white board!

-Marc.

I was starting to get excited with the microphone on MP's kit. "Look, vocals!". But no, those are just for talking (notice Jordan has one too). So... no news on that end    (plus it's a dynamic mic in the middle of a band room, reeeeeeeally slim chance that anything that mic captured would end up in the final product). (Come to think of it, I see very few microphones, just two overheads for the drums, so this is definitely not a drum tracking scenario... Which is obvious since there are more people in the room. So writing session/scratch track recording seems way more likely!).

[geeeemo]

Are Vans comfortable?  Never owned a pair, myself.   Chuck Taylor's, yep (not really comfortable; too flat for my feet). 

I think they are, I walk all over Denver in them lol

have we met? I have been to Denver to see the D/T, A View and Dreamsonic concerts.

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

Are Vans comfortable?  Never owned a pair, myself.   Chuck Taylor's, yep (not really comfortable; too flat for my feet). 

I think they are, I walk all over Denver in them lol

have we met? I have been to Denver to see the D/T, A View and Dreamsonic concerts.

I was at all those shows too! Perhaps we have met lol

[pg1067]

Are Vans comfortable?  Never owned a pair, myself.   Chuck Taylor's, yep (not really comfortable; too flat for my feet). 

I think they are, I walk all over Denver in them lol

I'm guessing you might not be as old as Stads and I are.   

Vans are fairly similar to Chucks.  They're comfortable, but they're not walking shoes.  They were designed for skateboarding, and they have VERY little sole cushion.  My office is all casual most of the time, so Vans are part of my office uniform.  However, if I have to walk any distance, I want a regular sneaker with some cushion.

[Kram]

Are Vans comfortable?  Never owned a pair, myself.   Chuck Taylor's, yep (not really comfortable; too flat for my feet). 

I think they are, I walk all over Denver in them lol

I'm guessing you might not be as old as Stads and I are.   

Vans are fairly similar to Chucks.  They're comfortable, but they're not walking shoes.  They were designed for skateboarding, and they have VERY little sole cushion.  My office is all casual most of the time, so Vans are part of my office uniform.  However, if I have to walk any distance, I want a regular sneaker with some cushion.

I'm an old man as well who owns several pairs of Vans and some Chucks.  I would agree with pg that they're similar in comfort.  I also have some Sketchers slip-ons, which have a lot more cushion and are much more comfortable.  But my younger girlfriend (she's in her 40's, but hey - that's pretty good for a man in his 50's!), says the Sketchers look more like old man shoe's lol. But if you value comfort over style, I'd recommend checking out some Sketchers

[pg1067]

Are Vans comfortable?  Never owned a pair, myself.   Chuck Taylor's, yep (not really comfortable; too flat for my feet). 

I think they are, I walk all over Denver in them lol

I'm guessing you might not be as old as Stads and I are.   

Vans are fairly similar to Chucks.  They're comfortable, but they're not walking shoes.  They were designed for skateboarding, and they have VERY little sole cushion.  My office is all casual most of the time, so Vans are part of my office uniform.  However, if I have to walk any distance, I want a regular sneaker with some cushion.

I'm an old man as well who owns several pairs of Vans and some Chucks.  I would agree with pg that they're similar in comfort.  I also have some Sketchers slip-ons, which have a lot more cushion and are much more comfortable.  But my younger girlfriend (she's in her 40's, but hey - that's pretty good for a man in his 50's!), says the Sketchers look more like old man shoe's lol. But if you value comfort over style, I'd recommend checking out some Sketchers

My current sneakers are Sketchers, and I don't think they look much different than my last few pairs, which have been Champion or New Balance or something like that.  I was discussing it with my doctor last week, and she recommended Hokas, which are fairly pricy but apparently uber-cushioned (good for a doctor who's on her feet most of the day).

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

i have a pair of hokas for very long walks (ok i admit it i don't always take long walks in Vans ) and they are indeed pretty comfortable. they're expensive but you can usually find clearance/sale prices

[MinistroRaven]

To me it's pretty intriguing that MP picked that specific photo to throw back to the 'Train of Thought' days, especially pointing out the same drum kit making a comeback after all these years. It's not just a trip down memory lane; it feels TO ME like a subtle nod to the vibe they're tapping into for their new project. Given how 'Train of Thought' stands out in their discography for its heavier, more intricate sound, this could be a hint that they're exploring a similar direction with their upcoming album.

 Can't wait to see how this blend of past and present influences their new music!

[TAC]

To me it's pretty intriguing that MP picked that specific photo to throw back to the 'Train of Thought' days, especially pointing out the same drum kit making a comeback after all these years. It's not just a trip down memory lane; it feels TO ME like a subtle nod to the vibe they're tapping into for their new project. Given how 'Train of Thought' stands out in their discography for its heavier, more intricate sound, this could be a hint that they're exploring a similar direction with their upcoming album.

That's an interesting thought. It'd be so MP to drop some sort of series of clues/nuggetz along the way.

[Ben_Jamin]

If it is a clue, I hope we get at least 2 songs played on the 8-string.

[bosk1]

Well, that's the thing about Mike.  He LOVES dropping clues.  But he also LOVES just posting things just because.  You never know which is which until after the fact. 

[Ben_Jamin]

Well, that's the thing about Mike.  He LOVES dropping clues.  But he also LOVES just posting things just because.  You never know which is which until after the fact. 

He could have chose that specific picture because it's basically been 20 years since ToT, and also, it has the 6DOIT drum head which he is using during these writing sessions.

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

Well, that's the thing about Mike.  He LOVES dropping clues.  But he also LOVES just posting things just because.  You never know which is which until after the fact. 

He could have chose that specific picture because it's basically been 20 years since ToT, and also, it has the 6DOIT drum head which he is using during these writing sessions.

Nuggetz! Next album is 6DoIT part 2: King Portnoy and the Rudess Wizard

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

MP's shoes (Vans) are the nuggets in this instance because it signifies the black shoes will point to the darker/heavier side of the sound, and the white trim symbolizes the purity, joy, and cathartic release we all get when we queue up the new DT album with MP on it for the first time

[TAC]

MP's shoes (Vans) are the nuggets in this instance because it signifies the black shoes will point to the darker/heavier side of the sound, and the white trim symbolizes the purity, joy, and cathartic release we all get when we queue up the new DT album with MP on it for the first time

So, Black Clouds and White Linings?

[Jamesman42]

Six Clouds and Scenes Unite

[TAC]

A View of Astonishing Events Over Time.


Oh wait...nevermind.

[NoFred]

A View of Astonishing Events Over Time.


Oh wait...nevermind.

Next album is just the last five re-recorded, because members

[jammindude]

A View of Astonishing Events Over Time.


Oh wait...nevermind.

Next album is just the last five re-recorded, because members

…you said ‘member’…

[HOF]

11 tracks, 10 of which have a distinct vibe that corresponds to each of the first 10 DT albums, and the 11th of which is a side long epic with it’s own vibe.

Only sort of serious, but this is the kind of thing they would do maybe.

[Metro]

A double album where they re-record both Sons of Apollo albums

[Ben_Jamin]

11 tracks, 10 of which have a distinct vibe that corresponds to each of the first 10 DT albums, and the 11th of which is a side long epic with it’s own vibe.

Only sort of serious, but this is the kind of thing they would do maybe.

That's a cool theme.

[gzarruk]

A double album where they re-record both Sons of Apollo albums

I'd buy that

[porcacultor]

11 tracks, 10 of which have a distinct vibe that corresponds to each of the first 10 DT albums, and the 11th of which is a side long epic with it’s own vibe.

Only sort of serious, but this is the kind of thing they would do maybe.

Kind of a fractal thing going on, I love it. Feels on brand for them, even though the WDADU "track" would be difficult to picture.

"For the FII track we had the label force us to hire an external producer to cut up one of our songs, it felt just like the old days"

Speaking of the picture and post MinistroRaven brought up, I definitely wouldn't mind a ToT vibe this time around.

[MirrorMask]

Personally I hope for the same variety that Dramatic has, after two albums with heavy songs with the occasional exception here and there, I hope for the styles to be all over the place. But a good album with great songs is good even though it has just one mood.

[crystalstars17]

A double album where they re-record both Sons of Apollo albums

I hope this is a joke. 

I definitely wouldn't mind a ToT vibe this time around.

No, thank you.

I hope for the styles to be all over the place.

This. I'd much rather hear a culmination of where they are in their history and everything they've learned and accomplished up until now. That's not to say that there shouldn't be a cohesive theme. It's to say that there is no good reason (other than nostalgia, which imo is not a good reason) that they should go backwards. The very heart and soul of progressive music is that it's forward-thinking.

[nobloodyname]

I suspect we'll get an Octavarium-style album.

[nikatapi]

Really curious to see who will be engineering/mixing/mastering the album.

I think A View From The Top Of The World was one of the best DT albums sonically, after a series of questionable ones.
Definitely looking forward to hearing a great drum and cymbal sound from MP again, even though i have to say i wasn't very fond of his sound post-Octavarium in DT.

[MinistroRaven]

A double album where they re-record both Sons of Apollo albums

I'd buy that

me too