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Distant Memories - New live release

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WilliamMunny

Question for everyone:

Live at Luna Park is available to buy/watch from Itunes, but from what I can tell, Distant Memories is only available physically.

If I purchase the CD/Blu-Ray do I get a download code for the video?

(I like to watch video on my phone when I'm slogging away on the treadmill:)

Max Kuehnau

Quote from: WilliamMunny on March 21, 2021, 01:03:29 PM
Question for everyone:

Live at Luna Park is available to buy/watch from Itunes, but from what I can tell, Distant Memories is only available physically.

If I purchase the CD/Blu-Ray do I get a download code for the video?

(I like to watch video on my phone when I'm slogging away on the treadmill:)
not as far as I know you don't.
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

WilliamMunny

Quote from: Max Kuehnau on March 21, 2021, 01:05:46 PM
Quote from: WilliamMunny on March 21, 2021, 01:03:29 PM
Question for everyone:

Live at Luna Park is available to buy/watch from Itunes, but from what I can tell, Distant Memories is only available physically.

If I purchase the CD/Blu-Ray do I get a download code for the video?

(I like to watch video on my phone when I'm slogging away on the treadmill:)
not as far as I know you don't.

Thanks for the quick response...kind of a bummer, but I will keep my eyes open for a future streaming release.

I'm all about physical product, but these days, my time 'at the gym' is pretty much the only time I have to really enjoy stuff like this.

Ben_Jamin

Quote from: WilliamMunny on March 21, 2021, 01:11:26 PM
Quote from: Max Kuehnau on March 21, 2021, 01:05:46 PM
Quote from: WilliamMunny on March 21, 2021, 01:03:29 PM
Question for everyone:

Live at Luna Park is available to buy/watch from Itunes, but from what I can tell, Distant Memories is only available physically.

If I purchase the CD/Blu-Ray do I get a download code for the video?

(I like to watch video on my phone when I'm slogging away on the treadmill:)
not as far as I know you don't.

Thanks for the quick response...kind of a bummer, but I will keep my eyes open for a future streaming release.

I'm all about physical product, but these days, my time 'at the gym' is pretty much the only time I have to really enjoy stuff like this.

Not that I know of either. But, you can just make a playlist on YouTube.

Dublagent66

Quote from: PetFish on March 20, 2021, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: wolfking on March 19, 2021, 05:27:56 PM
I finally got around to having a bit of a listen to this.  Only listened to the first set but I love James and always have, but jeez, he's getting harder and harder to listen to.

I've said this as well and there's two things that stand out to me:

1)  He always seems out of breath, taking many mid-sentence and mid-word pauses.
2)  The way he goes "wwwwww" before a lot of words.

I think #2 has been around for quite a while now but #1 I feel has only been happening recently.

I think he started doing #2 back on Score, perhaps even earlier on L@B.  It's kind of a lazy way of singing in order to lead up to certain notes that may be difficult to nail outright, but I don't recall him doing it very often.  Just on certain songs.  I don't recall it happening on BTFW.  Not 100% sure.

Overall, he's still pulling off most of everything he does with a few changes here and there.  Most of the time his improvs work, but when they don't, it can be cringeworthy.  These guys play those songs over and over, show after show.  They can't play them the same exact way every single time.  I notice improvisations in JP's playing too and sometimes they don't always work.  That's the nature of the beast.

Lupton

OK. I know I'm super late to the party...but I just got this in the mail. Going to check the video out tonight (providing everything plays and my copy doesn't turn out defective). Now I just need to make sure I have enough beer...

ReaPsTA

I haven't purchased a Dream Theater show since Score but got this one.

First release to feel like a concert *film*. I don't know what the specific technique is, but there's a way they do the camera work where the stage feels twice as big as in real life and the band members come off as rock stars. Budokan is still the gold standard, but this feels in the same league. Blu-Ray quality is very nice.

The performance is solid and has good energy. Band members all look like they enjoy being there. Something something LaBrie's singing something something Mangini vs. Portnoy. Yes you're right if I had one chance to show someone a Dream Theater concert video I wouldn't use this but as a fan I enjoy it. Mix is solid. Not as good as Score and earlier videos but better than Luna Park/Behind the Fourth Wall.

Solid product no complaints.

PetFish

My BRs don't work in my BR player.  It says "invalid media".  LaserCD isn't returning my calls.  I don't have any other BR players to test on.

Are they secretly 4K discs?

cramx3

Quote from: PetFish on June 07, 2021, 05:16:31 PM
My BRs don't work in my BR player.  It says "invalid media".  LaserCD isn't returning my calls.  I don't have any other BR players to test on.

Are they secretly 4K discs?

I have no issue with my BR discs

Cool Chris

Wait a minute, wait one goddamn minute.

The real issue here is.... where has ReaPsTA been?!
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

TAC

He's been watching Live At Budokan.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

Ben_Jamin

Quote from: ReaPsTA on June 07, 2021, 04:35:21 PM
I haven't purchased a Dream Theater show since Score but got this one.

First release to feel like a concert *film*. I don't know what the specific technique is, but there's a way they do the camera work where the stage feels twice as big as in real life and the band members come off as rock stars. Budokan is still the gold standard, but this feels in the same league. Blu-Ray quality is very nice.

The performance is solid and has good energy. Band members all look like they enjoy being there. Something something LaBrie's singing something something Mangini vs. Portnoy. Yes you're right if I had one chance to show someone a Dream Theater concert video I wouldn't use this but as a fan I enjoy it. Mix is solid. Not as good as Score and earlier videos but better than Luna Park/Behind the Fourth Wall.

Solid product no complaints.


What did you think about the SFAM set of the show?

I thought it was good, and a nice way to celebrate it's anniversary and a way to play the album again to newer fans, or those unable to catch the original SFAM shows. I thought it was nice to hear it as it is on the album, and without the extras that are included on the Live Scenes DVD, like extended sections, and special guests (It was great to hear the hypnotherapist on time, and JP not speeding up the intro of Finally Free to the actor speaking too fast.  :lol )


Setlist Scotty

Quote from: Ben_Jamin on June 07, 2021, 07:20:10 PM
I thought it was nice to hear it as it is on the album, and without the extras that are included on the Live Scenes DVD
....which is the whole reason why you listen to the album proper in the first place.  ::)  Live, especially when you're playing the whole album straight through, is the time to make changes. And no, I don't count that super brief drum break in FT or MM's drum soloing on FF enough to make a difference. They could've done something more, just as they did when they did all of IaW during the 2017 tour.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

hefdaddy42

Quote from: Cool Chris on June 07, 2021, 06:48:57 PM
Wait a minute, wait one goddamn minute.

The real issue here is.... where has ReaPsTA been?!
Seriously.

:uny:
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

ReaPsTA

Quote from: Cool Chris on June 07, 2021, 06:48:57 PM
Wait a minute, wait one goddamn minute.

The real issue here is.... where has ReaPsTA been?!

Lurking sometimes, but mostly just around.

Hope you've been well.

Quote from: Ben_Jamin on June 07, 2021, 07:20:10 PM
What did you think about the SFAM set of the show?

I thought it was good, and a nice way to celebrate it's anniversary and a way to play the album again to newer fans, or those unable to catch the original SFAM shows. I thought it was nice to hear it as it is on the album, and without the extras that are included on the Live Scenes DVD, like extended sections, and special guests (It was great to hear the hypnotherapist on time, and JP not speeding up the intro of Finally Free to the actor speaking too fast.  :lol )

Was unexpectedly good when I saw it live. The album has an energy to it that doesn't really come out on the record. Not a huge Beyond This Life fan generally, but it slaps live. Distant Memories captures this reasonably well.

On the other hand, Live Scenes is the culmination of Dream Theater coming back from near death to cement themselves as legends of the genre. I agree with Scotty that the little changes there were cool.

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on June 08, 2021, 08:08:46 AM
Seriously.

:uny:

because it's all about

US

NOT

YOU

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

geeeemo

Ok. Was just watching again. Jordan's solos in the middle of Home are  :hefdaddy
Of course so is the rest!

Cool Chris

Somehow I've avoided this release this whole time! Gave it a good listen the last couple days. Found the non-Scenes material solid and enjoyable, the DoT songs play really well live. The Scenes performance was solid, though I do not know how much it is warranted with the 2000 release - which I have not listened to in ages. I didn't catch this tour so this was my first real experience with this show.

Something about the sound seemed off to me, and I cannot put my finger on what it was. I was listening through ear buds so that be part of it. And I haven't listened to their other live releases so cannot say how they compare. Am I imagining something?
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

TAC

Quote from: Cool Chris on May 17, 2022, 07:35:26 PM

Something about the sound seemed off to me, and I cannot put my finger on what it was. I was listening through ear buds so that be part of it. And I haven't listened to their other live releases so cannot say how they compare. Am I imagining something?

Their last three live releases have way too much of a studio feel to me. Not sure if it's a click track thing, or there's too much studio work done on it. The crowds seem fake to me as well.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

Cool Chris

I haven't listened to Luna Park or 4th Wall in a while, though I've watched those videos more than I've just listened to the audio, and I shouldn't compare listening with my ear buds to my home theater setup. I'll try and listen to them this week to compare.
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

Ben_Jamin

Coincidentally, my Fiio played the SFAM tracks I joined together (Intro - Fatal Tragedy) on shuffle earlier today, and I decided why not listen to the entire SFAM portion. I enjoy the way Mangini plays these songs, especially, Home. This is one version of Beyond This Life I actually enjoy too, and it was great to see it live twice.

The highlights for me are Through Her Eyes, Home, and Finally Free.

TheBarstoolWarrior

So, I recently purchased this blu-ray after never watching the entire thing. I always stuck to a couple songs on YouTube but tonight I watched disc 1 which is the non-SFAM set. How do we feel about this show/time nearly 5 years later? This is the last recorded concert we've gotten from DT, which makes it feel like an eternity ago.

This show sounds awesome and the blu-ray is almost like a movie. Everything just feels so locked in and energetic. I am wondering though: do they touch up these live video recordings? I know a lot of acts do this. There are so few mistakes it seems uncanny.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

Tyrannosaurus Chicken

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on November 03, 2024, 05:46:54 PMSo, I recently purchased this blu-ray after never watching the entire thing. I always stuck to a couple songs on YouTube but tonight I watched disc 1 which is the non-SFAM set. How do we feel about this show/time nearly 5 years later? This is the last recorded concert we've gotten from DT, which makes it feel like an eternity ago.

This show sounds awesome and the blu-ray is almost like a movie. Everything just feels so locked in and energetic. I am wondering though: do they touch up these live video recordings? I know a lot of acts do this. There are so few mistakes it seems uncanny.

Barstool, the answer is yes. A big chunk of the vocals were re-done for that release, as if you compare them to YouTube recordings from that show, it was a rough show for James. In addition, Petrucci had to touch up quite a few of the solos, as it was an off night for him as well, at least, in the solo department. Hope this helps.
"Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about. Be kind, always." Robin Williams

wolfking

Was the first DVD I didn't purchase, was too expensive for my liking, but I watched most of it on Youtube about a year ago and enjoyed it quite a bit.  Another reason I didn't bother is as Tim mentioned in the other thread, I also feel a lot of the new shows don't feel that live.

You can tell there's some touchups for James on this one for sure too.

TheBarstoolWarrior

Yeah I figured for James. I remember seeing the tour in person and it was rough for him.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

Adami

Didn't purchase it, but I saw a number of songs on youtube and, I hope it's just a youtube thing, but plenty of moments seeing MM play and the audio is quite off sync.
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Tyrannosaurus Chicken

Quote from: Adami on November 03, 2024, 07:04:20 PMDidn't purchase it, but I saw a number of songs on youtube and, I hope it's just a youtube thing, but plenty of moments seeing MM play and the audio is quite off sync.

It's that way on the bluray as well, in a few spots.
"Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about. Be kind, always." Robin Williams

JeopardousRaven

#1077
This is the only DT live album I rarely revisit mainly due to the overproduction. It feels like I'm listening to a studio recording and I'm not too fond of robo-LaBrie on this album. It's a shame because I really like listening to Mangini's drumming on a lot of the SFAM tracks.

Whenever I want to listen to that era of the band I usually opt for the Berlin 2019 Lost Not Forgotten Archive release. It sounds far better and way more 'live' than Distant Memories. Not sure why that one turned out so good compared to Distant Memories which likely had a far higher budget.

All of their live albums after Score seem to have had some sort of production issue:

- Chaos in Motion is murky and poorly recorded (plus weird production on James's voice again, which sucks because he usually sounds amazing in audience recordings of that tour)
- Live at Luna Park took like 15 months to release for some reason. For comparison, BTFW took 6 months and DM took 9 months (during the peak of COVID as well)
- Breaking the Fourth Wall is actually pretty good. My only nitpick is that the audience noise is pretty obviously edited with lots of cheers that sound like they're reacting to a soccer match
- Distant Memories for the reasons stated above

Hopefully with Portnoy back the upcoming live releases will get a bit more attention and return to the quality of Live Scenes from New York, Budokan, and Score.

TAC

Quote from: JeopardousRaven on November 03, 2024, 07:41:17 PMThis is the only DT live album I rarely revisit mainly due to the overproduction. It feels like I'm listening to a studio recording and I'm not too fond of robo-LaBrie on this album. It's a shame because I really like listening to Mangini's drumming on a lot of the SFAM tracks.

Whenever I want to listen to that era of the band I usually opt for the Berlin 2019 Lost Not Forgotten Archive release. It sounds far better and way more 'live' than Distant Memories. Not sure why that one turned out so good compared to Distant Memories which likely had a far higher budget.


Yes & Yes!

I usually just listen to my show that I saw in Boston.


Quote from: JeopardousRaven on November 03, 2024, 07:41:17 PMAll of their live albums after Score seem to have had some sort of production issue:

- Chaos in Motion is murky and poorly recorded (plus weird production on James's voice again, which sucks because he usually sounds amazing in audience recordings of that tour)
- Live at Luna Park took like 15 months to release for some reason. For comparison, BTFW took 6 months and DM took 9 months (during the peak of COVID as well)
- Breaking the Fourth Wall is actually pretty good. My only nitpick is that the audience noise is pretty obviously edited with lots of cheers that sound like they're reacting to a soccer match
- Distant Memories for the reasons stated above

Hopefully with Portnoy back the upcoming live releases will get a bit more attention and return to the quality of Live Scenes from New York, Budokan, and Score.


The crowd noise in BTFW is so fucking annoying, and it really kills the whole thing. It's still a nice album though, as you say.

LALP I never listen to because of the same thing.

I like Chaos In Motion, but I would say that James was a mixed bag on that tour, but generally good enough.



I cringe when people say things along the lines of...with MP back it will be ... but on this, I agree. Hopefully the live albums don't sound like studio replicas with added fake crowd noise, because before he left, they didn't.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

wolfking

I personally really like CIM.  Never had an issue with it.

Tyrannosaurus Chicken

Quote from: wolfking on November 04, 2024, 04:16:32 PMI personally really like CIM.  Never had an issue with it.

I honestly forgot all about this one until you guys mentioned it - I need to go back and re-watch it.
"Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about. Be kind, always." Robin Williams

CraftyCaleb2483

Quote from: wolfking on November 04, 2024, 04:16:32 PMI personally really like CIM.  Never had an issue with it.
I just listen to it for the sake of Schmedley Wilcox  :metal  :metal  :metal
Quote from: twosuitsluke on October 14, 2024, 02:27:06 PMCaleb also has way better taste
Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid on November 24, 2024, 11:43:49 AM
Quote from: CraftyCaleb2483 on November 24, 2024, 11:04:36 AM??: King Crimson – 21st Century Schizoid Man
Betting on: Vocals too harsh, too heavy, not proggy enough

hefdaddy42

Chaos in Motion is by far my least listened to live release.  Something about the production rubs me the wrong way, and although there are some cool song choices present, there are also some poor ones, and even some of the songs that I otherwise like have some weird things about them.

Or something.  IDK, I haven't listened to it in like 1,000 years.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Zydar

I barely listen to live albums overall (I'm more into studio recordings), but whenever I feel like some live DT I usually grab Score or Budokan. 

hefdaddy42

Quote from: Zydar on November 05, 2024, 05:34:10 AMI barely listen to live albums overall (I'm more into studio recordings), but whenever I feel like some live DT I usually grab Score or Budokan.
:tup Can't go wrong with those.

I listened to Live Scenes From New York on a long drive a couple of weeks ago.  First time in a long time, and it still holds up.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.