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Offline Vmadera00

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I know there have been posts about this before, so I will just share these videos, that have also been shared before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gqsQ9Njhsc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GDfAfY_r30

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There is a literal shit ton of such songs.
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IMHO the Sting and Michael Jackson references you mentioned would possibly be Shape Of My Heart and Give In To Me respectively. (although Sacrifice is much slower in its introductory section)
Good call Max. You're probably right on the Sting track (not super familiar with his solo catalog) and definitely correct on the MJ track.  :tup
 
 
On the Backs of Angels sounds a lot like a Dream Theater song
As do Lost Not Forgotten, Outcry, This is the Life and Breaking All Illusions, right? :neverusethis:
 
 
Surrounded = Sugar Mice by Marillion, same pace, same type of guitar arpeggios. They even played an excerpt of it inside the song in 2007. Best version ever.
And Sugar Mice is a sort of homage to Mother, by Pink Floyd (at least the solo).
Which would make sense for why DT also included a bit of it in Surrounded '07.  :)
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Thanks Scotty. Wasn't fishing for it. (for reference, this is Shape Of My Heart, on my personal favourite Sting album too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlwIDxCjL-8)
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Surrounded = Sugar Mice by Marillion, same pace, same type of guitar arpeggios. They even played an excerpt of it inside the song in 2007. Best version ever.

And Sugar Mice is a sort of homage to Mother, by Pink Floyd (at least the solo).

I think Learning To Live is VERY Rush-like, in the instrumental parts.

Goodnight Kiss has a strong Queen vibe.

Good call on Queen and Goodnight Kiss (complete with “you’re just a poor girl” in place of “I’m just a poor boy”). The second half of that song is also very Pink Floyd-ish.

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I was listening to The Pinnacle by Kansas (great song) and the keyboards around 2:35 reminds me of the intro to Surrounded. Just like Father To Son by Queen.

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The beginning of En Force by Queensryche bears a similarity to Finally Free, as in the bit with the bells just before the reprise of One Last Time.

Offline MHStrawn

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Octavarium - Pink Floyd (Shine on You Crazy Diamond)
Peruvian Skies - Metallica (Enter Sandman)
The Great Debate - Tool (not specific)
The Count of Tuscany - Yes (Gates of Delirium "Soon" section)
Illumination Theory - Yes (Close to the Edge)
Surrounded - Marillion (Sugar Mice)
A Dramatic Turn of Events - Dream Theater (Images & Words)

That's off the top of my head....I imagine there's many more as DT has never been afraid to wear their influences.


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Illumination Theory - Yes (Close to the Edge)

I don't hear that at all.
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The entire mid-section sounds like a version of the middle section of CTTE.  YMMV.

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The entire mid-section sounds like a version of the middle section of CTTE.  YMMV.

Similar feel, I guess, but I've always gotten a Disney/Fantasia vibe from the middle section of IT.  Nothing at all like that with CTTE.
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The entire mid-section sounds like a version of the middle section of CTTE.  YMMV.

Similar feel, I guess, but I've always gotten a Disney/Fantasia vibe from the middle section of IT.  Nothing at all like that with CTTE.

Yeah, definitely more about the placement and how it fits arrangement-wise and how it's the "quiet" middle surrounded by louder stuff on each side.

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The beginning of En Force by Queensryche bears a similarity to Finally Free, as in the bit with the bells just before the reprise of One Last Time.
Good One!!!  How the hell did I not make that connection?  As soon as I read your post and played it through my head the light bulb went off!  Should have caught this one with Warning being one of my favorite albums ever, and also loving Finally Free.

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The beginning of En Force by Queensryche bears a similarity to Finally Free, as in the bit with the bells just before the reprise of One Last Time.
Good One!!!  How the hell did I not make that connection?  As soon as I read your post and played it through my head the light bulb went off!  Should have caught this one with Warning being one of my favorite albums ever, and also loving Finally Free.

I agree...I never made that connection but it's dead on.  BTW, EnForce is a hidden QR gem.

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On JP'S new solo album, there's a obvious knod to The Who's Baba o'Reilly main riff in the Happy Song.
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On JP'S new solo album, there's a obvious knod to The Who's Baba o'Reilly main riff in the Happy Song.

He rips off Octavarium too in the same song.

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Talking about JP's solo album,

Out of the Blue sounds very similar to Vai's Tender Surrender. At least the intro

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So the recurring guitar riff in White Lion’s Lights and Thunder sounds an awful lot like a riff JP uses on Fatal Tragedy (it’s in several places, but also right at the end of Fatal Tragedy for a quick reference). There’s also a break with a drum fill that is very similar to MPs in Fatal Tragedy/Metropolis pt. 1.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iHGA_k-umtI

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Ocatavarium

I get the Pink Floyd influence in the intro, but how does remaining 20 minutes sound like PF?

Came in to say "in before almost every DT song is mentioned" but it seems I am too late.

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Everybody always say “I walk beside you” sounds like U2 but I think it sounds like Journey.
“Our new world” sounds like Journey also.

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“Paralyzed”. And “fall into the light” sound like nuno Bettecourt in the intro’s.
Except less funky

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The Way it Used to Be - U2
Never Enough - Muse
Panic Attack - Muse (The "Helpless Hysteria" part)

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There is a literal shit ton of such songs.

This was my first thought. Some are just a lot more obvious.
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The chords behind the chorus (or when that section plays during the intro) of BAI, reminds me heavily of the chorus of Rush's Between the Wheels.  I'd have to check but the chords and progression could be the same.

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The chords behind the chorus (or when that section plays during the intro) of BAI, reminds me heavily of the chorus of Rush's Between the Wheels.  I'd have to check but the chords and progression could be the same.

I had never noticed that before! And I think you’re absolutely right.

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So the recurring guitar riff in White Lion’s Lights and Thunder sounds an awful lot like a riff JP uses on Fatal Tragedy (it’s in several places, but also right at the end of Fatal Tragedy for a quick reference). There’s also a break with a drum fill that is very similar to MPs in Fatal Tragedy/Metropolis pt. 1.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iHGA_k-umtI
That's one of my favorite White Lion Songs. Mane Attraction is a excellent album!  :metal
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Talking about JP's solo album,

Out of the Blue sounds very similar to Vai's Tender Surrender. At least the intro

Yeah, but I always felt like Vai ripped that off from Hendrix’s Villanova Junction first. 😂

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There's an obvious knod to Tempus Fugit on TA album.  I think it might be A Life Left Behind if I remember right.
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