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[Adami]

For a lot of his fills that apparently make everyone in awe, all I hear is really fast rolls. And I say this as a drummer.

I think most of us who like his drumming is in awe not of his fills. His strength is in orchestration. If one looks for fills, Mangini is not the man.

And his orchestration, with some very very great exceptions, is doubling other people. You seem to love that. That's cool. As I said, to me it's more of a novelty that he is overusing. You've stated you don't want the drums to stand out or be "flashy" and I do at times. Just different tastes.

Sometimes his doubling thing works insanely well. Like in OTBOA when he's playing the guitar and keyboard parts at the same time. But eventually it becomes monotonous because the rest of the band are often doing the same thing. So instead of multiple things going on and being interesting, you just get everyone doing the same thing and Mangini really hammering it in. Just not interesting to me.

[Lonk]

Since we are talking about the drumming. Here is a drum cover for FITL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Rnei1gj6g

After listening to the song multiple times over the weekend. I'm changing my mind. My first criticism of the song is that I felt the middle section could've been longer, and could've been the ending to the song. I think the middle section is just right. It's tasteful and not overdone. I know is premature but this is my cracking my top 5 DT song from MM era.

[erwinrafael]

For a lot of his fills that apparently make everyone in awe, all I hear is really fast rolls. And I say this as a drummer.

I think most of us who like his drumming is in awe not of his fills. His strength is in orchestration. If one looks for fills, Mangini is not the man.

And his orchestration, with some very very great exceptions, is doubling other people. You seem to love that. That's cool. As I said, to me it's more of a novelty that he is overusing. You've stated you don't want the drums to stand out or be "flashy" and I do at times. Just different tastes.

Sometimes his doubling thing works insanely well. Like in OTBOA when he's playing the guitar and keyboard parts at the same time. But eventually it becomes monotonous because the rest of the band are often doing the same thing. So instead of multiple things going on and being interesting, you just get everyone doing the same thing and Mangini really hammering it in. Just not interesting to me.

I prefer to see it as highlighting or accenting, instead of doubling. Hehehe. Like how percussion is used in an orchestra.

[Dedalus]

Since we are talking about the drumming. Here is a drum cover for FITL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Rnei1gj6g

Played in a kind of MP style, as always. 

[Darkstarshades]

The bias in these comments is so absurd it shines strong enough to melt their brains.

[Darkstarshades]

For a lot of his fills that apparently make everyone in awe, all I hear is really fast rolls. And I say this as a drummer.

I think most of us who like his drumming is in awe not of his fills. His strength is in orchestration. If one looks for fills, Mangini is not the man.

And his orchestration, with some very very great exceptions, is doubling other people. You seem to love that. That's cool. As I said, to me it's more of a novelty that he is overusing. You've stated you don't want the drums to stand out or be "flashy" and I do at times. Just different tastes.

Sometimes his doubling thing works insanely well. Like in OTBOA when he's playing the guitar and keyboard parts at the same time. But eventually it becomes monotonous because the rest of the band are often doing the same thing. So instead of multiple things going on and being interesting, you just get everyone doing the same thing and Mangini really hammering it in. Just not interesting to me.

Isn't that a pretty DT thing?

[gm5k]

Who else would be interested in James Hetfield's thoughts on instrumental section on FITL?    Feels like a straight up tribute to me, and I love it.

[DP_Gumby]

For a lot of his fills that apparently make everyone in awe, all I hear is really fast rolls. And I say this as a drummer.

I think most of us who like his drumming is in awe not of his fills. His strength is in orchestration. If one looks for fills, Mangini is not the man.

And his orchestration, with some very very great exceptions, is doubling other people. You seem to love that. That's cool. As I said, to me it's more of a novelty that he is overusing. You've stated you don't want the drums to stand out or be "flashy" and I do at times. Just different tastes.

Sometimes his doubling thing works insanely well. Like in OTBOA when he's playing the guitar and keyboard parts at the same time. But eventually it becomes monotonous because the rest of the band are often doing the same thing. So instead of multiple things going on and being interesting, you just get everyone doing the same thing and Mangini really hammering it in. Just not interesting to me.

Isn't that a pretty DT thing?

Didn't they do something like this in TDOE?  If I remember correctly there's a part during that song where they all do the same thing. Can't recall anyone complaining about that.

[mikeyd23]

Listened to FITL again this afternoon for the first time since Friday. I'm really digging this song! 

[Adami]

For a lot of his fills that apparently make everyone in awe, all I hear is really fast rolls. And I say this as a drummer.

I think most of us who like his drumming is in awe not of his fills. His strength is in orchestration. If one looks for fills, Mangini is not the man.

And his orchestration, with some very very great exceptions, is doubling other people. You seem to love that. That's cool. As I said, to me it's more of a novelty that he is overusing. You've stated you don't want the drums to stand out or be "flashy" and I do at times. Just different tastes.

Sometimes his doubling thing works insanely well. Like in OTBOA when he's playing the guitar and keyboard parts at the same time. But eventually it becomes monotonous because the rest of the band are often doing the same thing. So instead of multiple things going on and being interesting, you just get everyone doing the same thing and Mangini really hammering it in. Just not interesting to me.

Isn't that a pretty DT thing?

No?

Again, what I'm saying is when it's more often than not. Doing something as an accent is totally cool. But if DT's thing is everyone just doing the same thing, then clearly I am not a DT fan anymore.

[mikeyd23]

No?

Again, what I'm saying is when it's more often than not. Doing something as an accent is totally cool. But if DT's thing is everyone just doing the same thing, then clearly I am not a DT fan anymore.

I definitely don't think DT's thing is just all playing the same thing, but yeah I get your point about MM doubling stuff. Sometimes I love it, sometimes I wish he wouldn't double the guitar and/or keys when he does.

[cramx3]

I was just looking at tickets for the NYC show, looks like it's almost sold out!  That's some positive news, I have yet to go to a sold out Dream Theater show at that venue (or any venue) so would be great for the band to be able to do that.

[DT89]

I transcribed the guitar parts: https://youtu.be/yIWrgrE0FCM

Nice work.

I'm constantly baffled how you guys manage to do this in less than 24 hours... 

Yeah, but you have to keep in mind, it’s probably full of mistakes.

I understand being wary of online guitar tabs, but transcribing/teaching is my profession.  My first official tab book is coming out soon: https://www.sheethappenspublishing.com/columns/21/cynic-humanoid-freebie-paul-masvidal-on-the-house

I also won JP's Match the Master contest in 2016: http://blog.music-man.com/uncategorized/match-the-master-meeting-john-petrucci/

There may be some positional differences in my transcription, but we won't know until we see JP play the song.

[Adami]

I transcribed the guitar parts: https://youtu.be/yIWrgrE0FCM

Nice work.

I'm constantly baffled how you guys manage to do this in less than 24 hours... 

Yeah, but you have to keep in mind, it’s probably full of mistakes.

I understand being wary of online guitar tabs, but transcribing/teaching is my profession.  My first official tab book is coming out soon: https://www.sheethappenspublishing.com/columns/21/cynic-humanoid-freebie-paul-masvidal-on-the-house

I also won JP's Match the Master contest in 2016: http://blog.music-man.com/uncategorized/match-the-master-meeting-john-petrucci/

There may be some positional differences in my transcription, but we won't know until we see JP play the song.

I might end up hiring you at some point. I have a tendency to write/record riffs and then when it comes to actually recording them (not just demo) I have no idea how to play it and my ear isn't great.

[DT89]

I transcribed the guitar parts: https://youtu.be/yIWrgrE0FCM

Nice work.

I'm constantly baffled how you guys manage to do this in less than 24 hours... 

Yeah, but you have to keep in mind, it’s probably full of mistakes.

I understand being wary of online guitar tabs, but transcribing/teaching is my profession.  My first official tab book is coming out soon: https://www.sheethappenspublishing.com/columns/21/cynic-humanoid-freebie-paul-masvidal-on-the-house

I also won JP's Match the Master contest in 2016: http://blog.music-man.com/uncategorized/match-the-master-meeting-john-petrucci/

There may be some positional differences in my transcription, but we won't know until we see JP play the song.

I might end up hiring you at some point. I have a tendency to write/record riffs and then when it comes to actually recording them (not just demo) I have no idea how to play it and my ear isn't great.

I'd be glad to help you.  Feel free to email me at maytropolees@comcast.net

[Evai]

I put Fall Into The Light at the end of an Unforgiven 1/2/3 playlist. When FITL came on, I thought I was still listening to Metallica until I heard the ride cymbal   

[ZirconBlue]

I prefer to see it as highlighting or accenting, instead of doubling. Hehehe. Like how percussion is used in an orchestra.

Or a Drum & Bugle Corps.

[gmillerdrake]

Just picked up (3) tix for me and my two oldest to the Nashville show on April 17th. Gonna be a fun little road trip.

[As I Am]

I was just looking at tickets for the NYC show, looks like it's almost sold out!  That's some positive news, I have yet to go to a sold out Dream Theater show at that venue (or any venue) so would be great for the band to be able to do that.

That's good to see (hear). The 2 shows I'm attending (Count Basie & Tower Theater - I'm unavailable for the Beacon show which I would have attended instead of the Tower) are both far from sold out.

[Darkstarshades]

So far, the album seems to be one of their most sinister records, alongside Awake.
These are arguably their darkest singles, anyone agrees?

[cramx3]

I was just looking at tickets for the NYC show, looks like it's almost sold out!  That's some positive news, I have yet to go to a sold out Dream Theater show at that venue (or any venue) so would be great for the band to be able to do that.

That's good to see (hear). The 2 shows I'm attending (Count Basie & Tower Theater - I'm unavailable for the Beacon show which I would have attended instead of the Tower) are both far from sold out.

I just bought my $25 seat for Count Basie yesterday.  That's so close to home and yea, I wouldn't expect that midweek middle of NJ show to sell out when they are playing the two big cities NYC and Philly the weekend after.  I saw them at the Count Basie for the Along for the Ride tour and had a solid experience there.  I kind of didn't think about how going to Philly is possible too, maybe I'll make a third show...

[cramx3]

Speaking of this tour, just saw this and I'm not sure if this line up was fully announced yet?  Maybe I missed it, but pretty interesting line up for Mexico

[rab7]

So far, the album seems to be one of their most sinister records, alongside Awake.
These are arguably their darkest singles, anyone agrees?

I wouldn't use the words "sinister" and "dark" to describe them, but I agree that they are the heaviest two singles to date.

This is no surprise to anyone who's been following this since the thread was first created. We knew they were trying to make a heavier album. What surprises me though, is how melodic the two singles are. I hope the rest of the songs have the same amount of melody to go with the heaviness

[cramx3]

What surprises me though, is how melodic the two singles are. I hope the rest of the songs have the same amount of melody to go with the heaviness

Doesn't really surprise me, DT finding melody in their heaviness or craziness is what they've always done and why I love them so much.  Maybe some people are surprised they are still able to do this, but I found this was all over TA personally.  Just seems like DT being DT which I absolutely love.

[fadetoblackdude7]

Never thought I’d see DT and Thrice on the same bill. But I’ve dreamt of it!

[cramx3]

Never thought I’d see DT and Thrice on the same bill. But I’ve dreamt of it!

I was thinking the same thing about Dead Kennedys 

[Adami]

So far, the album seems to be one of their most sinister records, alongside Awake.
These are arguably their darkest singles, anyone agrees?

I didn't really hear anything too dark about either song, or even that heavy. I dunno. Not that they're light, but they seemed heavy rock at the heaviest. With a riff here or there going into the heavier category.

[mikeyd23]

So far, the album seems to be one of their most sinister records, alongside Awake.
These are arguably their darkest singles, anyone agrees?

I didn't really hear anything too dark about either song, or even that heavy. I dunno. Not that they're light, but they seemed heavy rock at the heaviest. With a riff here or there going into the heavier category.

They definitely aren't dark. They are heavy but not super heavy. There are some good heavy riffs, but the vibe isn't super dark or sinister. I don't think DT at this point in life are going to put out a dark record.

[cramx3]

Yea, I'm not getting a dark or sinister vibe at all from these.

[Architeuthis]

I'm not getting any dark vibe from these two songs. They are kind of heavy in areas with the riffing, but very catchy at the same time.
I do hope however, that we do get a really heavy song or two off this album. Something with dark extremely heavy riffs that is born of the blackness chaos, that makes the heaviest song from their past seem like a lullubi. 

[gmillerdrake]

I was just looking at tickets for the NYC show, looks like it's almost sold out!  That's some positive news, I have yet to go to a sold out Dream Theater show at that venue (or any venue) so would be great for the band to be able to do that.

When i was picking out tix for the Nashville show on April 17th at the Performing Arts Center I would say it's every bit of 75% full already. There weren't but (20) or so floor seats left and the majority of the first tier balcony was sold....even the top tier was 40% full.

[genome]

Still not seeing much love for the chorus... surely there must be others out there? I think it's one of the nicest chord progressions they've come out with for a long time.

[YtseJamittaja]

Still not seeing much love for the chorus... surely there must be others out there? I think it's one of the nicest chord progressions they've come out with for a long time.

No. You are alone.

[Dedalus]

The two songs have heavy moments, but I do not feel a dark vibe in them. And I hope no song from the next album has that vibe, because DT has already proven that they don't know how to make good dark songs.

[rumborak]

That section from 2:40 to 3:10 is kinda odd. It sounds like it should have vocals but doesn't.