Do you put the shopping carts back in the corral?

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pg1067

Quote from: TAC on May 20, 2019, 03:13:48 PM
Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 20, 2019, 03:09:52 PM
Agreed.  Hell, last week, I even pushed carts to the back of the corral to make room for more.   :justjen

You should've gone back in and stocked the store's shelves for them too. Or maybe bake some muffins for the display case. Maybe step behind the fish counter and give the worker a coffee break..;D

Amen!

Anguyen92

I don't know why, but it feels like in every 99$ store I see, there are shopping carts all over the place and one store in particular is in a pretty busy parking lot with all kinds of restaurants and a 85 degrees bakery.  I just don't get it.  Other supermarkets, it's not as big of an issue, but in a 99$ store, yes.

TAC

Quote from: Anguyen92 on May 20, 2019, 04:42:55 PM
I don't know why, but it feels like in every 99$ store I see, there are shopping carts all over the place and one store in particular is in a pretty busy parking lot with all kinds of restaurants and a 85 degrees bakery.  I just don't get it.  Other supermarkets, it's not as big of an issue, but in a 99$ store, yes.

It's because they're counting on suckahs to do their work for them.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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The Walrus

Cheap store, cheap clientele.

Put your damn carts back. *slams gavel*

jingle.boy

Quote from: TAC on May 20, 2019, 03:13:48 PM
Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 20, 2019, 03:09:52 PM
Agreed.  Hell, last week, I even pushed carts to the back of the corral to make room for more.   :justjen

You should've gone back in and stocked the store's shelves for them too. Or maybe bake some muffins for the display case. Maybe step behind the fish counter and give the worker a coffee break..;D

If I get you straight, your logic is that it's the store's/employees responsibility to put the carts in the coral / bring them back to the store?  That said, where does the service they provide start / stop?  Should they take it from you at your trunk after you've loaded your groceries?  Should they escort you from the store to your car?  Should they escort you through the store and pick the shelves for you?

Look, at some point, customers own the responsibility of their shopping experience.  I guess that's the difference here... many feel that extends all the way to the "return" of the cart to the coral; others do not.
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Stadler

I was in Florida this weekend, visiting my parents.  Mom and I went to Publix for some stuff, and as I'm loading up the car, I see this woman who had to be at least 80, but possibly 114, shuffling by me going away from the store with an empty cart.  Where was she going, you ask?  TO PUT THE CART IN THE CORRAL.   If Keith Richards' mother can put away the cart, you can too.

(For the record, I took it from her and brought BOTH our carts to the stall, to save her some precious steps.)

TAC

Quote from: jingle.boy on May 21, 2019, 06:13:01 AM
If I get you straight, your logic is that it's the store's/employees responsibility to put the carts in the coral / bring them back to the store?  That said, where does the service they provide start / stop?  Should they take it from you at your trunk after you've loaded your groceries?  Should they escort you from the store to your car? 

A lot of stores do offer carry out service.

I mean, J Boy, you understand why the corrals are there right?


Quote from: jingle.boy on May 21, 2019, 06:13:01 AM
Look, at some point, customers own the responsibility of their shopping experience. I guess that's the difference here... many feel that extends all the way to the "return" of the cart to the coral; others do not.

Yeah, I agree with the bolded part.

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

Dublagent66

Quote from: pg1067 on May 20, 2019, 04:05:18 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 20, 2019, 03:13:48 PM
Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 20, 2019, 03:09:52 PM
Agreed.  Hell, last week, I even pushed carts to the back of the corral to make room for more.   :justjen

You should've gone back in and stocked the store's shelves for them too. Or maybe bake some muffins for the display case. Maybe step behind the fish counter and give the worker a coffee break..;D

Amen!

Come on guys.  Ya'll should know the difference between apples and oranges by now.  Being courteous and respectful to others who also use the parking lot isn't a full time job and it costs absolutely nothing.


Quote from: jingle.boy on May 21, 2019, 06:13:01 AM
Quote from: TAC on May 20, 2019, 03:13:48 PM
Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 20, 2019, 03:09:52 PM
Agreed.  Hell, last week, I even pushed carts to the back of the corral to make room for more.   :justjen

You should've gone back in and stocked the store's shelves for them too. Or maybe bake some muffins for the display case. Maybe step behind the fish counter and give the worker a coffee break..;D

If I get you straight, your logic is that it's the store's/employees responsibility to put the carts in the coral / bring them back to the store?  That said, where does the service they provide start / stop?  Should they take it from you at your trunk after you've loaded your groceries?  Should they escort you from the store to your car?  Should they escort you through the store and pick the shelves for you?

Look, at some point, customers own the responsibility of their shopping experience.  I guess that's the difference here... many feel that extends all the way to the "return" of the cart to the coral; others do not.

Agreed.  Letting us use "their" shopping carts is also included in that service.  They also provide the corrals as well.  The least anyone can do is help to keep an organized parking lot that isn't cluttered with rogue carts.

King Postwhore

Quote from: TAC on May 20, 2019, 03:13:48 PM
Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 20, 2019, 03:09:52 PM
Agreed.  Hell, last week, I even pushed carts to the back of the corral to make room for more.   :justjen

You should've gone back in and stocked the store's shelves for them too. Or maybe bake some muffins for the display case. Maybe step behind the fish counter and give the worker a coffee break..;D


Hell I might as well since the Sunday add shows a sale and 10 sm, the shelves are empty.   


You lazy bleeps.  :lol
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

King Postwhore

"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

pg1067

Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 21, 2019, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: pg1067 on May 20, 2019, 04:05:18 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 20, 2019, 03:13:48 PM
Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 20, 2019, 03:09:52 PM
Agreed.  Hell, last week, I even pushed carts to the back of the corral to make room for more.   :justjen

You should've gone back in and stocked the store's shelves for them too. Or maybe bake some muffins for the display case. Maybe step behind the fish counter and give the worker a coffee break..;D

Amen!

Come on guys.  Ya'll should know the difference between apples and oranges by now.  Being courteous and respectful to others who also use the parking lot isn't a full time job and it costs absolutely nothing.

One can be courteous without using the corrals, and I am always courteous to others by leaving my cart in a place that will not impede anyone from parking or result in cartnados.

TAC

Right. I always make sure it's not rolling. If it's really windy, I'll prop it up on a curb or bring it to the corral. But you guys act like it's some crime against humanity if you don't do the store's work.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

King Postwhore

Nope.  I just think you're a lazy ass.

Tee Hee.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

The Walrus

I mean you would think the argument that leaving stray carts out poses potential hazards to customers' cars, and leaves them open for stealing, would be more than enough to convince people to take a few more seconds out of their day to do the right thing but apparently not, because TAC is a curmudgeon.  :lol

hefdaddy42

Where is this magical place that you can leave a cart other than the corral, where it won't impede anyone or has no potential to do damage?
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King Postwhore

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on May 22, 2019, 06:42:58 AM
Where is this magical place that you can leave a cart other than the corral, where it won't impede anyone or has no potential to do damage?

Only Sookie Stackhouse knows that place.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

The Walrus

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on May 22, 2019, 06:42:58 AM
Where is this magical place that you can leave a cart other than the corral, where it won't impede anyone or has no potential to do damage?

I'll just say there have been arguments made for pinning the wheels of the cart up against a curb, or something like that, to anchor them. I know...  :lol :lol

Dublagent66

Quote from: pg1067 on May 21, 2019, 04:58:08 PM
Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 21, 2019, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: pg1067 on May 20, 2019, 04:05:18 PM
Quote from: TAC on May 20, 2019, 03:13:48 PM
Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 20, 2019, 03:09:52 PM
Agreed.  Hell, last week, I even pushed carts to the back of the corral to make room for more.   :justjen

You should've gone back in and stocked the store's shelves for them too. Or maybe bake some muffins for the display case. Maybe step behind the fish counter and give the worker a coffee break..;D

Amen!

Come on guys.  Ya'll should know the difference between apples and oranges by now.  Being courteous and respectful to others who also use the parking lot isn't a full time job and it costs absolutely nothing.

One can be courteous without using the corrals, and I am always courteous to others by leaving my cart in a place that will not impede anyone from parking or result in cartnados.

:umno:  Unless you're taking it back into the store.

Ben_Jamin

Quote from: Kattelox on May 22, 2019, 07:32:49 AM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on May 22, 2019, 06:42:58 AM
Where is this magical place that you can leave a cart other than the corral, where it won't impede anyone or has no potential to do damage?

I'll just say there have been arguments made for pinning the wheels of the cart up against a curb, or something like that, to anchor them. I know...  :lol :lol

I only do that if the cart corral is really full, I parked far from the store and if the ledges are big enough where I can anchor it without blocking parking spots.

If stores are really concerned about carts being stolen, they would get the carts that lock up when you go past the lines. We have one store called Talin Market that has these, they're kind of a small business (Asian Market) so it's reasonable. Which the big chain stores shouldn't have a problem installing, if they really cared about cart stealing

The Walrus

That's a really cool idea, I just don't know how financially viable it is for a lot of stores that aren't big chains. Within eyesight of where I'm sitting is a local grocery store with a residential neighborhood right across the street, and since I was a kid, I've seen people from over there just take the carts across the street full of groceries back home! I saw one of them bring a cart back to go shopping, too!  :lol

Cool Chris

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on May 22, 2019, 06:42:58 AM
Where is this magical place that you can leave a cart other than the corral, where it won't impede anyone or has no potential to do damage?

Of course this is store-specific but at my store there are plenty of spaces that would qualify by both entrances.

pg1067

Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2019, 05:17:50 PM
Right. I always make sure it's not rolling. If it's really windy, I'll prop it up on a curb or bring it to the corral. But you guys act like it's some crime against humanity if you don't do the store's work.

I stopped at the grocery store on my way home from work yesterday.  As I pulled into the parking space, someone had left a cart perfectly placed on the + between spaces.  I shed a small tear at the perfection that was before me and thought of this thread and scoffed.


Quote from: Kattelox on May 22, 2019, 06:20:01 AM
I mean you would think the argument that leaving stray carts out poses potential hazards to customers' cars, and leaves them open for stealing, would be more than enough to convince people to take a few more seconds out of their day to do the right thing but apparently not, because TAC is a curmudgeon.  :lol

Because putting them in a corral makes them somehow not "open for stealing"?!


Quote from: hefdaddy42 on May 22, 2019, 06:42:58 AM
Where is this magical place that you can leave a cart other than the corral, where it won't impede anyone or has no potential to do damage?

Where is this magical place where shopping carts are capable of locomotion?

The Walrus

Well, no, but putting the carts in the store technically doesn't stop anyone from stealing them either. You can't deny however it is far more likely someone would steal one that is positioned conveniently at the end of a parking lot than way up in the corral wegded in amongst all the others. Just sayin'.

Locomotion... We have gone over this many times in this thread. Uneven parking lots allow carts - the ones that DON'T have fudged up wheels, mind! - to roll. Strong winds can push carts. People who back up into a cart some dunderhead dropped off behind their vehicle can cause them to move. Nobody's saying these things have engines or minds of their own but they're pretty real and common occurrences, dawg  :biggrin: themoreyouknow.jpg

Dublagent66

Stealing carts isn't the issue here.  If carts aren't in the designated corrals, then store employees are wasting time running around the parking lot all day gathering stray carts.  The company doesn't want their employees doing that.  It's time consuming and a safety risk liability.  That's the main reason the corrals are there.  Anything else just doesn't make sense no matter how you slice it.  Unless they just eliminate shopping carts altogether.


Quote from: TAC on May 21, 2019, 05:17:50 PM
Right. I always make sure it's not rolling. If it's really windy, I'll prop it up on a curb or bring it to the corral. But you guys act like it's some crime against humanity if you don't do the store's work.

It's not doing the store's work.  It's creating more unnecessary work for someone else because some people can't make a small contribution for the good of everybody involved.  It really is as simple as that.

The Walrus

Also that's such an exaggeration, acting like it's a crime against humanity. No, I just don't want my f'ing car damaged!  :rollin

jingle.boy

Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 22, 2019, 10:27:41 AM
because some people can't make a small contribution for the good of everybody involved.  It really is as simple as that.

When did we change lanes and start talking about Obamacare?   :lol
Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

King Postwhore

Quote from: jingle.boy on May 22, 2019, 11:13:11 AM
Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 22, 2019, 10:27:41 AM
because some people can't make a small contribution for the good of everybody involved.  It really is as simple as that.

When did we change lanes and start talking about Obamacare?   :lol

Don't you dare bring up......

































Changing lanes!
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Podaar

Quote from: Kattelox on May 22, 2019, 10:28:27 AM
Also that's such an exaggeration, acting like it's a crime against humanity. No, I just don't want my f'ing car damaged!  :rollin

If you drove a KIA Sedona, you wouldn't care either.  :lol

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

jingle.boy

Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

King Postwhore

Quote from: TAC on May 22, 2019, 11:36:54 AM
250k and counting....

Damn I've got 9 months left for my Corolla at 160,000 and I'm dying for a new truck.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Samsara

#732
Rookies.

I put 280,000  miles on a 1989 CHEVY CAVALIER (well, between my parents and myself) that I sold 19 years ago before going up to Massachusetts for law school. The new owner told me (he was a neighbor from back home in NY) that it lasted two more years, and almost 20k more miles (I think he got rid of it just shy of 300k).

:rollin

I got damn lucky with that car. It only let me down once. Friday night, driving back home from work (I worked in western Nassau County on Long Island) during the summer of 1997. I hit all the Hamptons traffic, and the car blew like three hoses on the Southern State once I got into Suffolk County.  :lol But other than that -- GOLD. And I always made sure it was parked as far away from those ghastly shopping carts lazy people didn't put back in the corrals.  :lol

pg1067

Quote from: Kattelox on May 22, 2019, 10:25:07 AM
Well, no, but putting the carts in the store technically doesn't stop anyone from stealing them either. You can't deny however it is far more likely someone would steal one that is positioned conveniently at the end of a parking lot than way up in the corral wegded in amongst all the others. Just sayin'.

I don't know about you, but the stores I shop at have corrals at various locations.  It's not like they're all right outside the store, so I can think of no reason why putting a cart in a corral would have any impact at all on its susceptibility to theft.


Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 22, 2019, 10:27:41 AM
If carts aren't in the designated corrals, then store employees are wasting time running around the parking lot all day gathering stray carts.

An employee performing one of his/her job duties is not "wasting time."  That's like saying I'm "wasting time" reviewing contracts.  It's part of my job, just as it's part of the store employees' jobs to retrieve carts.

The Walrus

Well, the pack survives while the lone wolf dies. The cart on its own is an easier target.  :lol

Quote from: kingshmegland on May 22, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
Quote from: TAC on May 22, 2019, 11:36:54 AM
250k and counting....

Damn I've got 9 months left for my Corolla at 160,000 and I'm dying for a new truck.

I have an 02 Nissan Sentra. It hasn't even cracked 74k miles yet. Bought it in '15 with 41.9k on it.