Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)

[The Walrus]

AWESOME!

[Cyclopssss]

Really enjoyed season 2 of Iron Fist! Much better.

[Adami]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1BCujX3pw8

First trailer is up!

Looks good. Doesn't give much away (at all) but really focuses on character, rather than showing a ton of explosions or exposition. A good first trailer. Hope they don't do the typical Marvel thing and show 1/3 of the movie in the trailers/TV spots, but we all know they will. So I'll probably watch 1 more trailer and call it quits.

[The Walrus]

Looks great. I've never really known anything about the character but since the first pics came out I thought, wow, she looks great in that role, and I still believe that after the trailer. Stoked!

[jingle.boy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1BCujX3pw8

First trailer is up!

Looks good. Doesn't give much away (at all) but really focuses on character, rather than showing a ton of explosions or exposition. A good first trailer. Hope they don't do the typical Marvel thing and show 1/3 of the movie in the trailers/TV spots, but we all know they will. So I'll probably watch 1 more trailer and call it quits.

Agree on all of this.  After Ultron, I decided I'd only watch the officially released theatrical trailers - no vignettes, no web featurettes, no 'special' sneak previews, no TV commercial spots.  I ended up knowing about 20 minutes of AoU, and regretted it when I saw the movie.  Worked splendidly for everything that came since.

[bosk1]

Cool.  The trailer itself was standard fair.  But finally just getting to see something from the film is satisfying.  The de-aging on Samuel L. Jackson looks REALLY convincing.  It looks like this is in many ways going to be HIS origin story as well, going from some low-level, burned-out bureaucrat to the in-charge Nick Fury we know. 

[The Walrus]

^^ I noticed that too, Sam Jackson is looking damn good. Props to the effects team.

[jingle.boy]

^^ I noticed that too, Sam Jackson is looking damn good. Props to the effects team.

Props to the technology.

[kaos2900]

That trailer alone looks better than anything from DC universe. Can't wait!

[gzarruk]

That trailer alone looks better than anything from DC universe. Can't wait!

Kevin Feige could record himself farting and it would still look better than anything from the DC movie universe. Just saying...

[bosk1]

Wasn't that in the bonus features for Iron Man 3?

[Adami]

Wasn't that in the bonus features for Iron Man 3?

Kevin Feige farting? I believe that was the 3rd act.

[Adami]

So I'm trying to think of what the plot of this movie may be, since we've not been given a ton, and based solely on the info provided thus far.

So it seems like Carol will be a test pilot or something for a space exploration thing and get accidentally pulled into the Kree home world who will take her, brainwash her or mindwipe her (before or after she gets her powers) and turn her into a soldier in their war. During a battle she lands on earth and her memories slowly start to come back. She knows that Skrulls are on the planet too since she was probably fighting them before she crash landed. So she has to try to fight her enemy while also learning about who she is and realizing that the Kree are her enemy too because they took her and made her into a brainwashed soldier.


Just a guess.

[Dream Team]

The stuff in this trailer totally contradicts what Fury has said in other movies (most notably The Avengers) about the possible existence of extraterrestrials. Oh well, impossible to keep all that stuff straight.

Referencing Thor's appearance: "Not only did we learn we're not alone . . . "

[bosk1]

Nah, that isn't really a contradiction.  He never said they didn't know about the possible existence of extraterrestrials--just that that is when it came to the public's attention.  He may have implied it, but to the extent he did, that was clearly propaganda used to try to get the Avengers to calm down and play ball.  And that would be consistent with one of the major themes in Avengers (and beyond) as well.  If you think it is a contradiction, then fine, but this film is far from the first time that line has been contradicted.  Agents of SHIELD and some of the films that followed Avengers have pretty clearly indicated that there were plenty on earth that had been previously aware of extraterrestrials prior to the events of Thor.

In other news, I am WAY past being done with Hollywood/media seemingly obsessing over whether this movie FINALLY makes the important leap of providing us with a lead female superhero, or that movie FINALLY makes the important leap of providing us with a lead Black superhero, or...etc.  How about we just enjoy well-written movies about well-written heroes?

[King Postwhore]

Plus, as a super spy, they lie, twist the facts to benefit what they want.  Of fibbing.

[jingle.boy]

Plus, as a super spy, they lie, twist the facts to benefit what they want.  Of fibbing.

Both this and what Bosk said are valid.  And if they add-in some kind of throw-away comment in Captain Marvel that suggests Howard Stark needs to start combing the oceans hard for the Tesseract after Fury realizes there are aliens 'out-there', that would still line things up.  The whole point in A1 about 'learning' there are aliens out there is the fact they have the Tesseract now, and are weaponizing it.  They could make it so that Fury has been desperately wanting the Tesseract ever since the time period of Captain Marvel.

[bosk1]

SO early to be getting a trailer though.  We have 6 months until this film, with nothing from Marvel in between. 

In other news, the boys and I are now up to the beginning of S2 for Agents of SHIELD.  Plenty of time to finish that series and rewatch Guardians, vol. 1 before Captain Marvel hits so that we are as up-to-date as possible about what has been revealed about the Kree thus far in the MCU.

[Adami]

SO early to be getting a trailer though.  We have 6 months until this film, with nothing from Marvel in between. 

In other news, the boys and I are now up to the beginning of S2 for Agents of SHIELD.  Plenty of time to finish that series and rewatch Guardians, vol. 1 before Captain Marvel hits so that we are as up-to-date as possible about what has been revealed about the Kree thus far in the MCU.

Yea, I dunno why marvel loads everything into the first half of the year. We now get 3 movies by July and then nothing. Seems like Ant-Man may have done way better near Thanksgiving than like 2 months after Infinity War.

[gzarruk]

SO early to be getting a trailer though.  We have 6 months until this film, with nothing from Marvel in between. 

That's right, even the DT album is coming earlier and we still don't know anything about it yet

[lonestar]

We actually do have Venom coming. Though not part of the MCU, it is a Marvel product. And personally I'm kind of stoked to see it.

[Adami]

Yes, I'm sure it'll be amazing. Like a turd, in the wind.

But they could put their 3rd MCU movie around thanksgiving or October to help make the wait times more even. Not even to fill in the extra time, but having 3 movies all within 2-3 months of each other is a bit much.

[gzarruk]

Just finished IF s2, man, that was unexpected. At first, I thought it was just going to be a PC ending and all that, which bothered me, but then we had THAT scene at the end and I was like

[lonestar]

Yes, I'm sure it'll be amazing. Like a turd, in the wind.

But they could put their 3rd MCU movie around thanksgiving or October to help make the wait times more even. Not even to fill in the extra time, but having 3 movies all within 2-3 months of each other is a bit much.

Your optimism is overwhelming.

I totally agree that Ant Man should have been a fall release, and get what you're saying.

[jingle.boy]

Marvel thread: 6 month wait is too long.
Same people in Star Wars thread: Do they really need a movie every year?

[Bolsters]

DC thread: Should they even bother?

[kaos2900]

Marvel thread: 6 month wait is too long.
Same people in Star Wars thread: Do they really need a movie every year?

I've been on the side that regardless of the film series there can be a movie every month as long as the quality stays high. I think a star wars film once a year is fine as long as the films are good. Solo was a good film released at the wrong time after two huge films. I'd still bet dollars to donuts that if Solo is released in September or even December that it's not a commercial disaster.

[Cyclopssss]

I'm watching Solo right now.  Wrong thread. 

[The Walrus]

Yeah, I'm with kaos on the subject of film frequency. As long as the films remain quality, I have no problem with how often they come out. Although I do get stir crazy in a way when Marvel leaves us hanging for half a year without any movies after frontloading the year with all sorts of wild stuff. I like the Star Wars approach of one per year (and beyond that, one main entry every other year with a side story in between to flesh out the universe), but I'll admit I'm not really crazy about Star Wars in the first place, even less so about what they're doing with the franchise currently.

[Adami]

Yeah, I'm with kaos on the subject of film frequency. As long as the films remain quality, I have no problem with how often they come out. Although I do get stir crazy in a way when Marvel leaves us hanging for half a year without any movies after frontloading the year with all sorts of wild stuff. I like the Star Wars approach of one per year (and beyond that, one main entry every other year with a side story in between to flesh out the universe), but I'll admit I'm not really crazy about Star Wars in the first place, even less so about what they're doing with the franchise currently.

I don't think anyone (including me) was wishing for less films, but your comment about front loading was the crux of my argument. I just think they would be better served being more spread out. I feel like Ant-Man suffered because it came RIGHT off the heels of their biggest movie ever. If it came out around now, I feel like it would have been better received and performed better.

Film 1 - March
Film 2 - July
Film 3 - October

Bam, you got a nicely distributed schedule. No one is getting sick of the movies, and we're not still in the mindset of the last one when the new one comes out.

[The Walrus]

Oh, I'm in full agreement there. As much as I loved getting Ant-Man shortly after Infinity War I definitely think it would have been better to release it around this time instead of in the immediate aftermath of Infinity War while that was still going strong.

[Adami]

Oh, I'm in full agreement there. As much as I loved getting Ant-Man shortly after Infinity War I definitely think it would have been better to release it around this time instead of in the immediate aftermath of Infinity War while that was still going strong.

Yea. I kept hearing it being referred to as "a pallet cleanser" and that seemed like it wasn't what the movie was trying to be, but due to the release schedule, ended up becoming. Which isn't good. No one wants to invest that much into a movie that is the equivalent of swishing water in your mouth between meals.

[The Walrus]

Oh, I'm in full agreement there. As much as I loved getting Ant-Man shortly after Infinity War I definitely think it would have been better to release it around this time instead of in the immediate aftermath of Infinity War while that was still going strong.

Yea. I kept hearing it being referred to as "a pallet cleanser" and that seemed like it wasn't what the movie was trying to be, but due to the release schedule, ended up becoming. Which isn't good. No one wants to invest that much into a movie that is the equivalent of swishing water in your mouth between meals.

True. Although I never took that as a derogatory term, personally. It was a pretty lighthearted adventure with lots of funny moments (strangely, not as many as Infinity War, but the overall tone of the movie was lighter with less gravity) and I liked that after having such a huge emotional cliffhanger from IW. I loved the post-credits too as it tied it all back together with another very cool cliffhanger. I'm just wondering if there will be an Ant-Man 3. I wasn't crazy about the first one but really enjoyed AM&Wasp, so I'm hoping he plays a part in Avengers 4 

[Adami]

Well the global box office helped AM&TW a whole lot. So if there's a 3rd, I'd be prepared for a trip to Asia .

And yea, from what i've seen, he's going to play a pretty big role in A4.

[lonestar]

Brush all that shit aside for a second... Teaser trailer for DD S3....


https://youtu.be/jx2x7DklglQ

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