Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)

[lordxizor]

Edit: I am dumb an somehow misread the quote. I wasn't born yet for the og trilogy, but will say that Iron Man is getting to the point it can cater to younger millennials and older gen Z for childhood nostalgia in a similar way. But the MCU has had a near consistent presence since 2008, so I think it hits a bit different.

I didn't mean anything more by it than "crap I'm getting old. Time sure does fly by"

[Stadler]

Sorry, probably not the place, but the few articles I've read on RDJ haven't failed to make an issue of him getting "significantly more" than $80M - one said closer to $100M - for this (and a jet, and some other swag) in the immediate wake of the recent strikes where the studios heads have - and this a quote from the article, because I doubt people like Bob Iger ACTUALLY said this -  "cried poverty".  I hate those arguments; they are so indicative of someone that doesn't know how the economics actually work.  The day that an assistant costume production assistant can open a blockbuster movie weekend is the day THEY will get $80M.  RDJ is NOT a loss leader.  He is actually generating the money by which they can potentially pay the assistant costume production assistants more.

But this misses a fundamental part of the equation: when I worked at GE, GE owned NBC.  The equivalent jobs in the manufacturing/industrial spaces typically paid a premium - in some cases as high as 20% more - because it WASN'T NBC. I could have been counsel for NBC, and the upside is I would have had an office somewhere in shouting distance of Tom Brokaw, and within a handful of floors of the SNL studio. I also would have been in NYC not CT, and would have take about a 25% pay cut (so 25% less salary, PLUS the added expenses of living in NYC and not a moderate middle class suburb of Hartford). They filled those jobs in like 9 seconds more often than not. Maybe for the idealist assistant costume production assistant, they're there for the art of the fashion and, the I don't know, personal satisfaction of the "work", but there's a demand for those jobs that necessarily drives the price down.  Whether RDJ is paid $80M or $8, doesn't change that.

[jingle.boy]

Sorry, probably not the place, but the few articles I've read on RDJ haven't failed to make an issue of him getting "significantly more" than $80M - one said closer to $100M - for this (and a jet, and some other swag) in the immediate wake of the recent strikes where the studios heads have - and this a quote from the article, because I doubt people like Bob Iger ACTUALLY said this -  "cried poverty".  I hate those arguments; they are so indicative of someone that doesn't know how the economics actually work.  The day that an assistant costume production assistant can open a blockbuster movie weekend is the day THEY will get $80M.  RDJ is NOT a loss leader.  He is actually generating the money by which they can potentially pay the assistant costume production assistants more.

But this misses a fundamental part of the equation: when I worked at GE, GE owned NBC.  The equivalent jobs in the manufacturing/industrial spaces typically paid a premium - in some cases as high as 20% more - because it WASN'T NBC. I could have been counsel for NBC, and the upside is I would have had an office somewhere in shouting distance of Tom Brokaw, and within a handful of floors of the SNL studio. I also would have been in NYC not CT, and would have take about a 25% pay cut (so 25% less salary, PLUS the added expenses of living in NYC and not a moderate middle class suburb of Hartford). They filled those jobs in like 9 seconds more often than not. Maybe for the idealist assistant costume production assistant, they're there for the art of the fashion and, the I don't know, personal satisfaction of the "work", but there's a demand for those jobs that necessarily drives the price down.  Whether RDJ is paid $80M or $8, doesn't change that.

If RDJ was wearing an IM costume that you or I designed, then every single fucking movie goer would take issue with that.

It takes a village dude.

[Stadler]

If RDJ was wearing an IM costume that you or I designed, then every single fucking movie goer would take issue with that.

It takes a village dude.

I can only think of one case of that and its more symbolic than fact (the nippled Batman constume that Joel Schumacher tried to sell us). 

[DoctorAction]

I can only think of one case of that and its more symbolic than fact (the nippled Batman constume that Joel Schumacher tried to sell us). 

Bat-nips is catnipz 

[The Letter M]

Sneak peek at Daredevil Born Again!

https://x.com/tylerduran21/status/1822124589519884306?t=Oj3KtD_wJrngMcDAPuCESw&s=19

-Marc.

[BlackInk]

RDJ getting $80+ mill does feel ridiculous. Not because the costume designer deserves 80 mill too, but because at that point I'm more worried that paying for a single actor actually puts a noticeable strain on the budget of the movie, and it's creative integrity (although as far as I understand the state of the VFX industry--especially with Marvel--some of those millions could likely be more humanely spent there). It may be a justifiable business decision, but I'm not convinced it's a good artistic decision to let a single actor eat up that much resources.

Hoping it will work out anyway, but yeah that really does give the impression that this is business, not art.

[Zook]

$80 million is ridiculous for any actor. He's a great actor, but why would he need to demand that much? Because he knows he can get it? Seems kinda douchy. Shit, Keanu Reeves would give 90% of that to all the people behind the scenes.

[lordxizor]

$80 million is crazy, but does Marvel think they'll make $80+ million in profit just because RDJ is in the film? They just might.

[hefdaddy42]

RDJ gets $80 million because he's worth it.  

[The Letter M]

I mean, if it's $80mil for both films total, that's $40mil each, and it's probably safe to say both Avengers films will exceed $1bil each at the worldwide box office, so I'd say it's a sound investment. Although if Doomsday flops, I doubt Secret Wars will make as much, at least no on the first weekend unless early reviews are extremely positive.

-Marc.

[Adami]

RDJ gets $80 million because he's worth it. 

I mean, I love him 3000. Not sure I love him 80000000.

[Stadler]

He's good and all, but I liked Ozzy better. 

[DoctorAction]

He's good and all, but I liked Ozzy better. 

 

[hefdaddy42]

I mean, I love him 3000. Not sure I love him 80000000.

Well, you aren't paying him, so that works out lol

[The Letter M]

https://deadline.com/2024/08/james-spader-ultron-marvel-vision-series-1236048975/

Looks like Ultron is coming back in the Vision series in 2026!

-Marc.

[jingle.boy]

Cool. I've been looking forward to this one. The idea of White Vision is intriguing.