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Title: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: ariich on March 12, 2021, 01:50:45 PM
The last one was 119 pages and now that Phase 4 has begun, it's probably a good time for a new thread.

Also, given that WandaVision had its own thread, I thought a good way to do things might be to make this a general thread for the MCU with no spoilers from the latest/current entries, but new movies/shows can have their own spoiler-filled threads. That would allow people who haven't caught up on the latest ones to still be able to discuss the MCU. I think we took this approach temporarily with a couple of the big Avengers movies, but any objections to doing it on an ongoing basis?

EDIT:

Old thread here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=48444.0

Spoiler-filled individual threads for Phase 4:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on March 13, 2021, 06:50:55 AM
First!  I guess next on the docket is going to be Black Widow (finally).  jingle.son is prepared to drop the $30 it probably will be if/when it comes to Disney+.  Ain't no way theaters around here are gonna be open anytime soon, and he told me it was releasing in China soon??
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: ariich on March 13, 2021, 06:59:25 AM
Because of Covid delays, we're supposedly getting 4 movies and 6 Disney+ seasons during 2021, which is a huge step up in sheer volume of content if it happens that way.

The movies are:

Black Widow (May)
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (July)
Eternals (November)
Spider-Man: No Way Home (December)

The shows are:

WandaVision (January)
The Falcon and the Winter Soldier (March)
Loki (June)
What If...? (mid 2021)
Ms. Marvel (late 2021)
Hawkeye (late 2021)

Of those, What If? isn't really canon except that with them seemingly introducing the multiverse, in a sense everything becomes canon but just happened in a different universe.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: faizoff on March 13, 2021, 10:19:18 AM
That's a really stacked lineup. I doubt I'm going to see any of the movies in the theater. Will just have to wait for them to come on Disney+
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Kotowboy on March 15, 2021, 04:37:35 AM
Iron Man 2 is the worst MCU film.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: DoctorAction on March 15, 2021, 02:18:16 PM
I can't wait to get more Marvel on Friday. If the cinemas aren't very open or doing well for the rest of the year, I really hope they do streaming. I'll be disappointed if timelines get pushed back again.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: romdrums on March 16, 2021, 02:44:07 PM
My wife and I are trying to catch up on the MCU.  We had been doing pretty good up through Age of Ultron, and then we had our son and other things took precedence.  We are now caught up through Captain Marvel, so, of the movies, we only have Ant Man & The Wasp and then Endgame to go. 

On the TV side of things though, we've been watching Agents of SHIELD, and, outside of Ming Na Wen, not really impressed with the show.  We're about midway through Season 2.  Does it get better?  The writing feels really clumsy, and the character Grant Ward (and the actor who plays him) just seems so stiff and awkward.  We're kind of hate watching it at this point.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: ariich on March 16, 2021, 02:56:40 PM
My wife and I are trying to catch up on the MCU.  We had been doing pretty good up through Age of Ultron, and then we had our son and other things took precedence.  We are now caught up through Captain Marvel, so, of the movies, we only have Ant Man & The Wasp and then Endgame to go. 

On the TV side of things though, we've been watching Agents of SHIELD, and, outside of Ming Na Wen, not really impressed with the show.  We're about midway through Season 2.  Does it get better?  The writing feels really clumsy, and the character Grant Ward (and the actor who plays him) just seems so stiff and awkward.  We're kind of hate watching it at this point.
I enjoyed it from the start but it definitely improves and by season 3 is pretty great.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jammindude on March 16, 2021, 07:05:42 PM
Do NOT give up on AOS.

Personally, I donít mind the early seasons like some do, but there is a definite upturn in quality in seasons 3-5 especially. And a couple of the story lines have an impact on the story line in the movies.

Heck even WandaVision had a major reveal near the end that was a major plot point in one of the later seasons of AOS. (5 or 6...canít remember)

I just bought the entire series on DVD. Canít wait for it to arrive
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on March 17, 2021, 05:15:42 AM
My wife and I are trying to catch up on the MCU.  We had been doing pretty good up through Age of Ultron, and then we had our son and other things took precedence.  We are now caught up through Captain Marvel, so, of the movies, we only have Ant Man & The Wasp and then Endgame to go. 

On the TV side of things though, we've been watching Agents of SHIELD, and, outside of Ming Na Wen, not really impressed with the show.  We're about midway through Season 2.  Does it get better?  The writing feels really clumsy, and the character Grant Ward (and the actor who plays him) just seems so stiff and awkward.  We're kind of hate watching it at this point.
I enjoyed it from the start but it definitely improves and by season 3 is pretty great.

I echo this completely.  I don't have an issue with S1 the way others do.  If you have the wherewithal to work your way thru one more season, S3 is a very good one and they only continue to improve.  However, if you aren't digging it even 1/2 way thru, it just might not be for you. Though, it may already not be for you if you didn't enjoy and/or aren't intrigued by the 2nd half of S2
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: romdrums on March 17, 2021, 08:02:45 AM
We are at the point in S2 where we found out that Whitehall killed Skye's mom, and Ward just killed his family.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 17, 2021, 08:36:50 AM
I'm one of the weirdos who enjoyed seasons 6 & 7 more than anything else.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on March 17, 2021, 08:48:48 AM
I enjoyed most of it, from start to finish.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on March 17, 2021, 09:04:53 AM
We are at the point in S2 where we found out that Whitehall killed Skye's mom, and Ward just killed his family.

Ok, so you're about 1/2 way thru S2.  I suggest giving it a go to the end.  If it doesn't float your boat, it just might not be the show for you.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: ZirconBlue on March 17, 2021, 10:41:29 AM


I'm one of the weirdos who enjoyed seasons 6 & 7 more than anything else.



I think both of those seasons benefited from having fewer episodes.  7, especially.  The first half of Season 5 could have used some similar trimming, IMO.  Season 4, with it's 3 mini-arcs made the best use of a 22-episode season, IMO. 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Kotowboy on March 18, 2021, 03:02:25 AM
Ok - what's everyone's favourite and least favourite film in the MCU ?

My favourite : probably Infinity War or Avengers (2012) or the first Iron Man. There's loads to choose from. Thor Ragnarok is also way up there along with the first GOTG.

When they're good they're very good. Could probably cheat and say Infinity War & Endgame as one film as it was originally titled Part I and Part II.

My Least favourite is definitely Iron Man 2. Not as bad on my second viewing - but a really mediocre follow up to Iron Man - which is almost a perfect film IMO.

That or the first Captain America or any Hulk movie. Stand alone Hulk movies are never good.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: ariich on March 18, 2021, 03:37:22 AM
Personally, I'd definitely place Iron Man 2 at the bottom. It's still enjoyable, but I find it easily the weakest.

Favourite is harder, but it would be one of the following:
 - The Avengers
 - Guardians of the Galaxy
 - Captain America: Civil War
 - Black Panther
 - Infinity War
 - Captain Marvel
 - Endgame

As you can see I generally think the franchise has strengthened over time and most of my favourites are in phase 3.

Those are just the movies. I would also add WandaVision as another favourite, and also some of the Netflix shows (if they count).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Kotowboy on March 18, 2021, 04:04:13 AM
Apart from Avengers and Iron Man - Phase 1 is not that great.

Iron Man 2 is just Mickey Rourke planning stuff for the whole film - only to turn up right at the end and almost immediately lose.

I can't even remember Sam Rockwell's part in it.

Phase 2 and 3 definitely improve as they go along. Plus I don't dislike Iron Man 3 - but I never read any comics so the Mandarin reveal went over my head

and I took it at face value.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: lonestar on March 18, 2021, 07:04:24 AM
Least favorite would go to IM2 or Dark World.

Favorite on merit is probably Guardians 1 or Winter Soldier.

Nothing will ever compare to seeing Endgame on opening night in IMAX though, that was an incomparable movie experience that I doubt I'll ever have again. I even watch fan reaction vids of the on your left scene just to relive the moment.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 18, 2021, 07:42:56 AM
My least favorite is easily Thor: The Dark World.

Favorite is more difficult.  My top 4 in release order are The Avengers, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Avengers: Infinity War, and Avengers: Endgame.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: faizoff on March 18, 2021, 07:46:41 AM
I've seen 13 of the MCU movies opening night/weekend and apart from a couple of them notably Ant-Man & The Wasp, the theater was packed and filled with hardcore fans and the atmosphere was just fantastic to watch those movies. Not one single person was talking or on their phones at any time during the movie, there was loud cheering, applause, laughter, etc.. it was honestly a lot of fun every single time.

Some I saw in IMAX, some in Dolby. I think the Dolby ones were the best, sound and picture quality was unparalleled.

I still can't rank the top 5.

It will have to be among these

Iron Man
Winter Soldier
Avengers
Civil War
Infinity War
Endgame

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: kingshmegland on March 18, 2021, 07:48:52 AM
My least favorites are The Incredible Hulk and Thor: Dark World.

Favorites are The Winter Soldier, Civil War, Infinity War, Endgame, Guardians Of The Galaxy.

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on March 18, 2021, 08:12:31 AM
Nothing will ever compare to seeing Endgame on opening night in IMAX though, that was an incomparable movie experience that I doubt I'll ever have again. I even watch fan reaction vids of the on your left scene just to relive the moment.

Ditto.  Though, it's hard to pick between "On your left", Cap picking up Mjolnir, or "Avengers.... Assemble" as to which gave me the biggest goosebumps.  And by "goosebumps" I mean "boner"

I enjoyed Dark World well enough at the time, but it's the one that has aged the worst.  IM2 was the one I liked the least.  Least memorable for me would be GOTG2, and Ant Man & Wasp.  Both tried (too hard, imo) to capture the quirky uniqueness of their original counterpart, but both did not succeed.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on March 18, 2021, 08:56:10 AM
Favorite is Infinity War.  But Endgame, The Avengers, Homecoming, and GOTG are way, way up there too.

Least favorite probably depends on my mood at any given moment, but the candidates are Hulk, GOTG2, and Captain Marvel.  The next tier up from there would include IM2 and Thor 1 and Thor 2.  But, really, there isn't a single one that I actively dislike.  And they have all played a pretty important role in forming the complete MCU.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: lonestar on March 18, 2021, 10:38:30 AM
Speaking of memorable theater moments, the crowd for Infinity War was brilliant as well. There was a group of slightly drunk, very vocal young men behind me who were fucking hysterical. When Spiderman went all ashy, one guy was all, really fucking loud, "are you crying dude?"

When the credits started rolling, same guy says totally heartbroken "did we just lose?"

I was fucking rolling.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on March 18, 2021, 10:52:01 AM
And for me, the thing is, while we might laugh at reactions like that, both films (Infinity War and Endgame) earned those types of reactions. 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on March 18, 2021, 12:45:41 PM
And for me, the thing is, while we might laugh at reactions like that, both films (Infinity War and Endgame) earned those types of reactions.

Damn straight.  Like the chef said, I don't think I'll ever get a theater experience like either of those.  I think the biggest pop out of either movie was Thor arriving in Wakanda.

I really want to find 5.5 hours of free time some time to watch both back-to-back.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Kotowboy on March 18, 2021, 12:59:31 PM
But did anyone truly think that anyone who died in Infinity War wasn't coming back ?

I mean Endgame was originally titled Infinity War Part 2.

I thought GOTG2 was just as good as the first one and Kurt Russell was fantastic. Why have he and Jeff bridges never played brothers ?

have they even been in a film together ?!

The THOR films are mostly poop apart from Ragnarok which is awesome. Though i'm hoping that Love & Thunder doesn't double down on

the comedy. Plus I hope we get BUFF Thor back. fat Thor was funny for one film. We don't need it again.


Infinity War & Endgame are perfect cinema movies. You couldn't get the same experience watching it on TV by yourself.

The audience in my screenings were SILENT apart from the appropriate reactions. And that's what you want.

I went to a midnight premiere of The Force Awakens and they had to pause the movie to throw some people out who were shouting and throwing glass around.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on March 18, 2021, 01:32:47 PM
But did anyone truly think that anyone who died in Infinity War wasn't coming back ?

Died or who were dusted?  From what I saw, most people figured that those who dusted due to the snap were coming back.  But there was all kinds of speculation about those who actually died (e.g. Gamorra, Loki, Vision).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Kotowboy on March 18, 2021, 04:45:22 PM
Yes dusted. For instance we already knew there was a Dr. Strange and Spidey sequel.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Zook on March 18, 2021, 05:34:03 PM
But did anyone truly think that anyone who died in Infinity War wasn't coming back ?

I mean Endgame was originally titled Infinity War Part 2.

I thought GOTG2 was just as good as the first one and Kurt Russell was fantastic. Why have he and Jeff bridges never played brothers ?

have they even been in a film together ?!

The THOR films are mostly poop apart from Ragnarok which is awesome. Though i'm hoping that Love & Thunder doesn't double down on

the comedy. Plus I hope we get BUFF Thor back. fat Thor was funny for one film. We don't need it again.


Infinity War & Endgame are perfect cinema movies. You couldn't get the same experience watching it on TV by yourself.

The audience in my screenings were SILENT apart from the appropriate reactions. And that's what you want.

I went to a midnight premiere of The Force Awakens and they had to pause the movie to throw some people out who were shouting and throwing glass around.

Hemsworth got super ripped for that Hulk Hogan biopic, so they're gonna have to make his fat suit really thin. He'll probably be fat at the beginning and time with pass, or they'll show him training.  Thanos is dead and everyone who was snapped returned,  so there's no reason for him to be depressed anymore. All is right, except Black Widow and Tony, but he seemed pretty happy with the Guardians.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on March 18, 2021, 06:01:45 PM
I'm currently making my way through all the MCU films again in release order (just finished Civil War). My choices may change once I've wrapped them up.

Favorites:
-Iron Man: Just a really solid action film. Great performances all around, great action scenes, and it does a fantastic job of making you love and care about Tony Stark as a character, despite the fact that he is a flawed hero. Everything about this one just comes together, and even if this movie had bombed and there came to be no MCU, it still serves a thoroughly enjoyable, insular experience.
-Captain America: The Winter Soldier: Probably the best choreography in the entire franchise, with great directing and editing in making the action scenes feel really visceralósomething I wished had been done more in the MCU. Just so many great moments in this one, definitely the best out of Cap's movies.
-Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2: I feel like I'm one of the few that prefers this one over the first, and I love the first as well. I feel like it took everything great about it and improved on just about everything. It further explores the themes from the first, is somehow even funnier, and even more emotional. Also, Ego is a way better villain than Ronan.
-Avengers: Infinity War: Is this one even in question? Thanos has come to be the villain of Marvel as a franchise for good reason because of this movie. Great action scenes, VFX, character dynamics, and an astounding ending.
-Avengers: Endgame: I like that the focus shifts to our heroes in this one, whereas Thanos is arguably the protagonist of IW. It's a wonderful celebration of the franchise and all these characters we've come to love over the years. Couldn't ask for a better send off.

Least favorites:
-The Incredible Hulk: It could be unfair to rate this by MCU standards, since this was before it really got its footing. Regardless, it's just super forgettable to me. It's the kind of movie you watch once and then forget most of what happened just a couple hours later.
-Thor: The Dark World: This one suffers some of the same issue as IH. Malekith is definitely one of the weakest villains of the whole franchise. Did this guy even have any lines? I honestly don't remember. It has a few good scenes (Loki's sacrifice, Frigga's fight), but other than that, it's a slog.
-Captain Marvel: I have more issues with this movie than I can explain concisely here, but let's just say it's a bit of a mess. I love Brie Larson, but her performance in this movie just didn't do it for me. There's a lot of telling and hardly any showing when it comes to our understanding of who Carol Danvers is as a person. I really wanted to like this movie, but the awkward dialogue, the hit-or-miss humor, the jumbled pacing of the story, and the utter lack of character of our main hero left me with zero urge to watch again.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: ariich on March 19, 2021, 01:06:42 AM
But did anyone truly think that anyone who died in Infinity War wasn't coming back ?
Wasn't really about that though. As you say, we knew some other films that were on their way involving dusted characters, plus they were hardly going to actually kill off half of their superhero roster permanently, so obviously we all assumed they'd come back somehow. But it will a thrilling experience because of:
 - Being surprised that they actually went ahead and did that in a major blockbuster movie;
 - Feeling the emotions of the characters and what they were going through;
 - Speculating about what would happen next and how things would get resolved (which none of us guessed correctly).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 19, 2021, 07:30:49 AM
But did anyone truly think that anyone who died in Infinity War wasn't coming back ?
Wasn't really about that though. As you say, we knew some other films that were on their way involving dusted characters, plus they were hardly going to actually kill off half of their superhero roster permanently, so obviously we all assumed they'd come back somehow. But it will a thrilling experience because of:
 - Being surprised that they actually went ahead and did that in a major blockbuster movie;
 - Feeling the emotions of the characters and what they were going through;
 - Speculating about what would happen next and how things would get resolved (which none of us guessed correctly).
At the end of Infinity War, my wife was legit distraught and furious with me for not preparing her for the fact that so many characters would be killed.

I was so happy.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on March 19, 2021, 10:15:18 AM
Wait, what?  People die in Infinity War? 

:) :) :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: ZirconBlue on March 19, 2021, 12:01:32 PM


But did anyone truly think that anyone who died in Infinity War wasn't coming back ?
Wasn't really about that though. As you say, we knew some other films that were on their way involving dusted characters, plus they were hardly going to actually kill off half of their superhero roster permanently, so obviously we all assumed they'd come back somehow. But it will a thrilling experience because of:
 - Being surprised that they actually went ahead and did that in a major blockbuster movie;
 - Feeling the emotions of the characters and what they were going through;
 - Speculating about what would happen next and how things would get resolved (which none of us guessed correctly).



When I get choked up over a characters death, it's usually more about how that death impacts the other characters that gets me, more than the death itself.  That they may come back later doesn't negate the emotions of the other characters in that moment.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: ariich on March 19, 2021, 02:35:01 PM


But did anyone truly think that anyone who died in Infinity War wasn't coming back ?
Wasn't really about that though. As you say, we knew some other films that were on their way involving dusted characters, plus they were hardly going to actually kill off half of their superhero roster permanently, so obviously we all assumed they'd come back somehow. But it will a thrilling experience because of:
 - Being surprised that they actually went ahead and did that in a major blockbuster movie;
 - Feeling the emotions of the characters and what they were going through;
 - Speculating about what would happen next and how things would get resolved (which none of us guessed correctly).



When I get choked up over a characters death, it's usually more about how that death impacts the other characters that gets me, more than the death itself.  That they may come back later doesn't negate the emotions of the other characters in that moment.
Absolutely. Marvel do that sort of thing really well.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Dream Team on March 21, 2021, 06:44:15 PM
(replying to Stadler) I know you were working on seeing these in order. Please tell me youíve seen Infinity War and Endgame by now.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Dream Team on March 21, 2021, 06:45:23 PM
Apart from Avengers and Iron Man - Phase 1 is not that great.

Iron Man 2 is just Mickey Rourke planning stuff for the whole film - only to turn up right at the end and almost immediately lose.

I can't even remember Sam Rockwell's part in it.

Phase 2 and 3 definitely improve as they go along. Plus I don't dislike Iron Man 3 - but I never read any comics so the Mandarin reveal went over my head

and I took it at face value.

Seriously????? Rockwell was the most entertaining character by far. You have strange taste.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Kotowboy on March 22, 2021, 02:36:47 AM
Strange tastes - or I watched IM2 so long actually I - forgot what he did in it.

Like I said.............
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on March 22, 2021, 07:18:44 AM
(replying to Stadler) I know you were working on seeing these in order. Please tell me youíve seen Infinity War and Endgame by now.

I've watched 17 films so far.  I forget the order, so I can't remember the last one I watched (maybe Dr. Strange), but this is what I have left, and the order I'm probably going to watch them:

Black Panther
Thor: Ragnarok
Avengers: Infinity War
Ant-Man And Wasp
Avengers: End Game
Spider-Man: Far From Home

So, no, on A:IW and A:EG. 

(But I was only kidding about the spoilers thing; I do not expect people to discuss this on my schedule.)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on March 22, 2021, 08:23:39 AM
For the ones you have left, that is the right order.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: faizoff on March 22, 2021, 08:27:27 AM
It shouldn't matter but Ragnarok released before Black Panther.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Vmadera00 on March 22, 2021, 08:48:23 AM
It shouldn't matter but Ragnarok released before Black Panther.

That is true, but Ragnarok flows better if seen right before IW because of, well, you know  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on March 22, 2021, 08:55:43 AM
Exactly.  The order that Stadler has them is a much better viewing order.  Black Panther, love it or hate it, is "generic good guy vs. bad guy superhero movie" that moves the ball very little in terms of the Infinity Saga, other than just establishing the setting of Wakanda.  Ragnarok, on the other hand, is huge in terms of setting up Infinity War.

If I ever could find the time, I would love to do a partial rewatch of Thor's journey by doing:
Thor
Avengers
Thor II
Avengers Age of Ultron
Ragnarok
Infinity War
Endgame
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: faizoff on March 22, 2021, 09:01:45 AM
True, I had forgotten the setup for Infinity War is Ragnarok. I was just going by year and sequence of release and as I said not a big deal. But yeah I would watch in the order listed.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on March 22, 2021, 09:18:26 AM
We've not stuck to release order.  We (I, since wife and daughter bailed on it) watched Captain Marvel a while ago, and we watched the two Guardians films back to back.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jammindude on March 24, 2021, 08:22:47 AM
Purchased all 7 seasons of AOS off of EBay for $60.

I canít even find any evidence that season 7 had a physical release, so Iím wondering if they are boots. If they are, they are nice ones. The artwork isnít blurry or anything. But seasons 6 and 7 look like they are packed in HQ fan art.

I have loathed the idea of boots for over a decade, but Iíve always said that the exception would be if the company refuses to make a physical copy for purchase. If thatís the case, then yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.  :yarr
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Dream Team on March 24, 2021, 08:27:25 AM
We've not stuck to release order.  We (I, since wife and daughter bailed on it) watched Captain Marvel a while ago, and we watched the two Guardians films back to back.

Make sure you watch Infinity War and Endgame in a dark room with no distractions.

I was thinking yesterday that the arcs of Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, and Thor Odinson over the course of these 20+ movies are masterful storytelling and character development. Itís unfortunate so many people miss that, and yes Iím including Scorcese.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: DoctorAction on March 24, 2021, 08:50:24 AM
Agree completely. I think it's ignored as the Marvel tone is colourful and often humorous. But making everyone dour and frowny does not make high drama. (If it did then the DC movies might have cleaned up...)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on March 24, 2021, 09:12:22 AM
Even with what I've seen so far, I (mostly) agree with that.  I love the Stark evolution; I've come to not like Steve Rogers all that much (though he attracts hot women like bees to honey); I've not gotten far enough, I guess, with Thor, who I think I like (though he's tied to Natalie Portman, who I find annoying).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on March 24, 2021, 09:35:28 AM
Thor's evolution really kicks into gear over the arc from Ragnarok to Infinity War to Endgame, so no surprise that you don't feel like you've gotten far with him yet. 

I won't spoil anything, but there is a moment coming up with Captain America that really will...er...allow you to compare old Cap and new Cap side by side to appreciate how far he has come.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 24, 2021, 10:01:20 AM
I won't spoil anything, but there is a moment coming up with Captain America that really will...er...allow you to compare old Cap and new Cap side by side to appreciate how far he has come.
Nicely done.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 24, 2021, 10:37:38 AM
Even with what I've seen so far, I (mostly) agree with that.  I love the Stark evolution; I've come to not like Steve Rogers all that much (though he attracts hot women like bees to honey); I've not gotten far enough, I guess, with Thor, who I think I like (though he's tied to Natalie Portman, who I find annoying).

Interesting.  I found him rather bland from the start through to Age of Ultron.  Winter Soldier and Civil War propelled my interest and love of the character forward immensely.  You're already thru those, and still don't have much appeal for/of him, eh?  :huh
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 24, 2021, 12:33:06 PM
Even with what I've seen so far, I (mostly) agree with that.  I love the Stark evolution; I've come to not like Steve Rogers all that much (though he attracts hot women like bees to honey); I've not gotten far enough, I guess, with Thor, who I think I like (though he's tied to Natalie Portman, who I find annoying).

Interesting.  I found him rather bland from the start through to Age of Ultron.  Winter Soldier and Civil War propelled my interest and love of the character forward immensely.  You're already thru those, and still don't have much appeal for/of him, eh?  :huh
Too progressive.
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Post by: The Letter M on March 24, 2021, 01:10:03 PM
I've never been on this side of the forum before, but I was surprised to see an MCU thread here, so I figured my first post here would be about the MCU line-up shift that was announced yesterday with Black Widow now coming out in July, and Shang-Chi in September. The Eternals is still set for November, and Spider-Man No Way Home in December. If the dates for films in 2022 don't change (due to production delays), it looks like we will be getting SEVEN films in the course of a year, between Black Widow in July of 2021, through Black Panther 2 in July of 2022 (with Thor: Love And Thunder before it in May, and Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness in March).

This beats the MCU's previous record of FIVE films in one year, between GOTG Vol. 2 and Avengers Infinity War (which had Spider-Man Homecoming, Thor: Ragnarok, and Black Panther between them).

It's pretty insane that we're going from the MCU's longest gap between films (previously held between The Incredible Hulk in June 2008 and Iron Man 2 in May 2010) to having the MOST number of films in a single year's time.

-Marc.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 24, 2021, 01:50:39 PM
Even with what I've seen so far, I (mostly) agree with that.  I love the Stark evolution; I've come to not like Steve Rogers all that much (though he attracts hot women like bees to honey); I've not gotten far enough, I guess, with Thor, who I think I like (though he's tied to Natalie Portman, who I find annoying).

Interesting.  I found him rather bland from the start through to Age of Ultron.  Winter Soldier and Civil War propelled my interest and love of the character forward immensely.  You're already thru those, and still don't have much appeal for/of him, eh?  :huh
Too progressive.

:clap:
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Post by: bosk1 on March 24, 2021, 02:23:41 PM
I've never been on this side of the forum before, but I was surprised to see an MCU thread here, so I figured my first post here would be about the MCU line-up shift that was announced yesterday with Black Widow now coming out in July, and Shang-Chi in September. The Eternals is still set for November, and Spider-Man No Way Home in December. If the dates for films in 2022 don't change (due to production delays), it looks like we will be getting SEVEN films in the course of a year, between Black Widow in July of 2021, through Black Panther 2 in July of 2022 (with Thor: Love And Thunder before it in May, and Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness in March).

This beats the MCU's previous record of FIVE films in one year, between GOTG Vol. 2 and Avengers Infinity War (which had Spider-Man Homecoming, Thor: Ragnarok, and Black Panther between them).

It's pretty insane that we're going from the MCU's longest gap between films (previously held between The Incredible Hulk in June 2008 and Iron Man 2 in May 2010) to having the MOST number of films in a single year's time.

-Marc.

And at a time when I think most of us are starving for film content on the big screen. 
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Post by: DoctorAction on March 26, 2021, 04:43:24 PM
I'm watching Thor 2. It's not great. But the scene of his mother's funeral was really beautiful, I thought.
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Post by: The Letter M on March 29, 2021, 01:41:13 PM
I'm watching Thor 2. It's not great. But the scene of his mother's funeral was really beautiful, I thought.

After Endgame came out (almost two years ago at this point), I did an MCU rewatch through the summer, and I liked Thor TDW a bit more than I did before. Time and memory kind of tainted my feelings for it, as well as the over-all internet criticisms of the film, but watching it again with Endgame's revisit of that era, I felt a bit better about certain parts of TDW. It's still not a great film, and it might be my least favorite Thor film and least favorite Phase 2 film, but there are some great moments, especially parts with Loki in the 2nd act, more Frigga than the first film, and some of the third act/final battle sequence in London.

-Marc.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 29, 2021, 01:45:51 PM
When Lockdown 1 started in the UK I decided to watch all the MCU ( minus Spidey and Hulk which aren't on Disney ) - and Cap America 1 isn't as bad as I remember.

But Iron Man 2 is. It has nothing on the first Iron Man. Thor 1 and 2 are just ...ok.... I thought Ant Man 2 was a bit better second time - still not as good as the first one.

What is the best 'second' stand alone movie would you say GOTG2 maybe ? Almost as good - if not better than GOTG 1 for me.

Spidey Far From Home was not as good as the first one either.
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Post by: Adami on March 29, 2021, 01:46:31 PM
Cap 2. By far.

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Post by: Kotowboy on March 29, 2021, 01:48:03 PM
Is that The Winter Soldier or Civil War ? i forget the timeline.

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Post by: Vmadera00 on March 29, 2021, 01:50:50 PM
Is that The Winter Soldier or Civil War ? i forget the timeline.

Winter Soldier. Yeah I think that's the best "second" stand alone movie in the MCU, followed by GOTG2.

Though that might change with some of the upcoming films  :corn
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Post by: Adami on March 29, 2021, 01:52:15 PM
Is that The Winter Soldier or Civil War ? i forget the timeline.

Winter Soldier. I didnít love Guardians 2 a ton (though I like it) and Ant-Man 2 just isnít nearly as good as Winter Soldier.

I did really like Far From Home but I canít see any of the direct sequels touching Winter Soldier.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 29, 2021, 01:53:19 PM
Iron Man 2 is at the bottom though for me. Maybe Dark World. But how did the same writing and directing team as IRON MAN decide than Iron Man 2 was good enough ?

It felt so phoned in on every level.
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Post by: Adami on March 29, 2021, 02:10:20 PM
I dunno. I can find a lot of enjoyable stuff in all of them. Guess I donít dwell on the negative qualities as much. I notice them and just kind of move on.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Kotowboy on March 29, 2021, 02:16:18 PM
Nothing in the MCU is as bad as Man of Steel or Batman V Superman. . .
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Post by: Adami on March 29, 2021, 02:31:11 PM
Nothing in the MCU is as bad as Man of Steel or Batman V Superman. . .

We all missed out on Iron Man asking cap if he bleeds.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 29, 2021, 03:08:47 PM
Man Of Steel was promising but the last 40 mins is just stupid.

I know Blob liked to go on about Star Trek into Darkness sand the pointless destruction -s o I did a test one day.

I timed the final fight in Man Of Steel ( 40 mins ) and the USS Vengeance crash scene in Star Trek into Darkness ( 30 seconds )...

The destruction in MOS is literally 80x longer than the USS Vengeance crash in Into Darkness. ;D


----

You can make a 'realistic' Superman movie. Just make a Richard Donner superman movie but do as much in camera as you can. They weren't making the Dark Knight

they were making Blade Runner Superman.
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Post by: faizoff on March 29, 2021, 07:01:09 PM
I actually really like Iron Man 2 and Thor 2. I think with the 2nd Iron Man, they were beginning to put some pieces in play for the Avengers, we see Black Widow, more of Nick Fury and Colson and SHIELD has a bigger role. As many issues Thor 2 had with studio (Fiege?) interference, and the director not being happy neither was Charles Eccleston, I actually enjoyed it quite a lot.

They aren't at the bottom of my ranking, Hulk and Guardian 2 would be there. Not that they are terrible
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Post by: jammindude on March 29, 2021, 07:02:32 PM
You can make a 'realistic' Superman movie. Just make a Richard Donner superman movie but do as much in camera as you can.

Iíve never seen it, but a lot of people described Superman Returns exactly this way.
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Post by: jammindude on March 29, 2021, 07:09:56 PM
If I had to pick a least favorite, it would probably be IM3. And itís still a 6.5/10. I just thought the Killian character was the lamest villain yet (but I loved Ben Kingsleyís performance) and the whole exploding plants turning people into either super-humans or super bombs had nothing to do with anything else in the MCU, and afterwards was completely dropped and never mentioned again.

If it werenít for the excellent story line about Tonyís PTSD, and the follow up One Shot that established the real Mandarin, it would be a throw away.

All the rest are at least a 7 to me. Even both Thorís, IM2 and TIH.
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Post by: faizoff on March 29, 2021, 07:29:35 PM
Same here, they're all at least a 7 for me. Even the bottom ranked ones.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 30, 2021, 12:51:03 AM
*Christopher Eccleston ;)


And Superman Returns was great. It's just a shame it has the involvement of Bryan Singer and Kevin Spacey...


And yeah Brandon Routh was a much better Superman than Henry Cavill.
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Post by: soupytwist on March 30, 2021, 05:24:58 AM
*Christopher Eccleston ;)


And Superman Returns was great. It's just a shame it has the involvement of Bryan Singer and Kevin Spacey...


And yeah Brandon Routh was a much better Superman than Henry Cavill.

Cavill is starting to win me over with other roles, I honestly think it's just the awful direction from Snyder that hampers his performance as Superman.

I always found Superman Returns quite a flat and forgettable film - Routh makes for a fine Superman/Clark, but Kate Bosworth is terrible.



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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 30, 2021, 08:26:38 AM
Superman Returns was fucking awful.

Cavill is fantastic as Superman.  He's an excellent pick.  He's just never been in a good Superman film.  Of course, neither has anyone else.
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Post by: ZirconBlue on March 30, 2021, 09:58:20 AM


I actually really like Iron Man 2 and Thor 2. I think with the 2nd Iron Man, they were beginning to put some pieces in play for the Avengers, we see Black Widow, more of Nick Fury and Colson and SHIELD has a bigger role. As many issues Thor 2 had with studio (Fiege?) interference, and the director not being happy neither was Charles Eccleston, I actually enjoyed it quite a lot.



My personal theory is that Ike Perlmutter was behind most of the "studio interference".   He seems much more money-driven, while Feige actually seems to care about the artistic side.  Perlmutter's decisions mostly often came down to "what will sell the most toys?" He and Feige butted heads a lot, to the point that Feige was about ready to quit.  In 2015, Feige was given complete control of Marvel Studios (leaving Perlmutter in charge of Marvel TV and the comics).  Looking at the movies released after then, you see happier directors and far fewer obvious signs of "studio interference".
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 30, 2021, 10:37:49 AM
Feige understands that if you do your best on the story/creative side, the financial side will take care of itself.

And he's right.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Kotowboy on March 30, 2021, 01:49:54 PM
Superman Returns was fucking awful.



no
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 30, 2021, 01:51:12 PM
The MCU absolutely got better with each Phase.

Phase 1 is most of the worst ( least best ) movies like Hulk and the first two Thor and Iron Man 2. Phase 2 is way more consistent and Phase three has Thor Ragnarok and Infinity War/Endgame.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 30, 2021, 02:47:56 PM
Superman Returns was fucking awful.



no
What is good about it?
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Post by: kingshmegland on March 30, 2021, 03:34:12 PM
Superman Returns dragged. I wanted to like it but it's a mediocre movie.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 31, 2021, 03:49:22 AM
Superman IV : The Quest For Peace was fucking awful.



yes
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: soupytwist on March 31, 2021, 06:20:09 AM
Superman Returns was fucking awful.


I don't think it's awful - I'd put it above Reeves 3rd and 4th films and Man of Steel......but it is completely pointless and pretty much forgettable now - much like the Andrew Garfield Spider-Man films really.
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Post by: DoctorAction on March 31, 2021, 04:36:07 PM
I liked Brandon Routh a huge amount more than Henry Cavill. It was, overall, a bit dull tho, imo.

There were some great moments. The jumbo jet scene. Routh channeled some Reeve quality every now and again.
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Post by: Adami on March 31, 2021, 05:01:49 PM
God Dammit guys.
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Post by: Orbert on March 31, 2021, 06:31:18 PM
I don't remember much about Iron Man 2 because I remember when I did watch it, I thought it blew, so I've never seen it since.  I remember that Mickey Rourke was this ugly brooding guy that had some kind of beef with Stark, and Sam Rockwell played some smarmy guy named Justin who you just wanted to punch in the face really hard.  Sam Rockwell is one of my favorite actors and I've literally never seen him in anything and not be awesome, and this movie is no exception.  The problem is that he does it so well that I totally want to punch him in the face for two hours, and it never happens.  Not even the combined presence of Gwyneth Paltrow, Scarlett Johansson, Kate Mara, and Leslie Bibb could save this movie.  Mickey Rourke being ugly and brooding sure didn't help.  When a movie is so bad that it wastes a Sam Rockwell performance, it's bad.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on April 01, 2021, 07:45:10 AM
Henry Cavill is the best Superman ever.  Seriously, of the main Supermen, I think he's the best.   I'm sad that it appears he's been asked to move on.

Gwyneth Paltrow, Scarlett Johansson, Kate Mara, and Leslie Bibb

It's a running joke between my wife and daughter and I about the "talent" (yes, I'm being sexist here, but in my defense I'm being sexist both ways) in the MCU.   They have Liam Helmsley*, Mark Ruffalo, Chris Evans, Tom Hiddleston, Sebastian Stan, Chris Pratt, and I have...  what?    Zoe Soldana, but she's in green.   Cobie Smulders, but she's a bit part only in the action scenes.   Gwyneth Paltrow is okay, but she's more annoying than she is hot, so that detracts.  Not a fan of Natalie Portman (AT ALL), ScarJo, Kate Mara or Leslie Bibb.    You'd think for a bunch of nerds they'd put more eye-candy in there.  I guess that's Scarlett Johansen and Natalie Portman, but they don't really work for me. 

I have to make do with random Ming-Na Wen, Jaime Alexander, and Marisa Tomei sightings.

* Also a running joke; I know it's Chris Hemsworth.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on April 01, 2021, 08:15:11 AM
You missed all the best ones!  Evangaline Lilly, Elizabeth Olson, Karen Gillian, Letitia Wright, Haley Atwell, Tessa Thompson, Brie Larsen

Oh, and I'll gladly take a green Zoe Saldana.
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Post by: Stadler on April 01, 2021, 08:29:57 AM
You missed all the best ones!  Evangaline Lilly, Elizabeth Olson, Karen Gillian, Letitia Wright, Haley Atwell, Tessa Thompson, Brie Larsen

Oh, and I'll gladly take a green Zoe Saldana.

Maybe, no, yes, maybe, maybe, YES, no.      You know how TAC always makes fun of me for picking the worst album by a band, or the worst song on an album, then loving it?  I'm kind of like that with women, too, I think.  What guy doesn't think Scarlett Johanson is all that and a bag of chips?  THIS GUY.   Evangaline Lilly looks good some of the time, but I don't get the love for Elizabeth Olson; she has that sort of sk8rgrrl, chipped nail polish thing going on that I really don't like.  Give you Karen Gillian, I forgot her.  Don't think I've seen Letitia Wright yet, but Haley Atwell sometimes looks pretty and sometimes she's all jawbone, and I don't like that sort of hard look.   Big win with Tessa Thompson, though I'll give you that.   100%.   Brie Larsen?  Eh.  Indifferent, and it doesn't help that I always think of that stupid Nissan commercial first.
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Post by: Orbert on April 01, 2021, 09:34:54 AM
Stadler is obviously a man of high standards and exacting taste.  In that list, I have only one Maybe, several Yes, and a few Hell Yes.
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Post by: lonestar on April 01, 2021, 09:42:58 AM
For my personal tastes, Scarlett is pretty fucking close to top of the list of all actresses.

All the others are stunning as well...but Scarlett.... Damn....
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Post by: lordxizor on April 01, 2021, 09:49:23 AM
For my personal tastes, Scarlett is pretty fucking close to top of the list of all actresses.

All the others are stunning as well...but Scarlett.... Damn....
I don't get the love for Scarlett if we're talking looks. She's reasonably good looking, but not the goddess so many seem to think she is. To each their own I guess.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 01, 2021, 09:52:09 AM
For my personal tastes, Scarlett is pretty fucking close to top of the list of all actresses.

All the others are stunning as well...but Scarlett.... Damn....
I don't get the love for Scarlett if we're talking looks. She's reasonably good looking, but not the goddess so many seem to think she is. To each their own I guess.

Iron Man 2 / Winter Soldier Scarlett >>>> IW/Endgame Scarlett.
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Post by: Vmadera00 on April 01, 2021, 10:08:04 AM
No love for Pom Klementieff or Kat Dennings?

(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-89d33b2bb9258570e8077267fe691e05)
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Post by: Adami on April 01, 2021, 10:14:37 AM
Elizabeth
Scarlett
Pom
Kat
Hayley
Ming Na
Karen
Alison

Yes. A thousand times yes.

The rest? Stadler can have them.
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Post by: Kotowboy on April 01, 2021, 10:43:09 AM
Quote
Henry Cavill is the best Superman ever.


No.

Out of all the Superman movies - he's the only one who doesn't act like a hero. He acts like he can't be f-ing bothered. Only cares about Lois and saving people is a chore.
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Post by: Stadler on April 01, 2021, 10:43:40 AM
For my personal tastes, Scarlett is pretty fucking close to top of the list of all actresses.

All the others are stunning as well...but Scarlett.... Damn....
I don't get the love for Scarlett if we're talking looks. She's reasonably good looking, but not the goddess so many seem to think she is. To each their own I guess.

Where's the clinking beer glasses emoji when you need it??
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on April 01, 2021, 10:45:51 AM
No love for Pom Klementieff or Kat Dennings?


Pom, yes.  Actually, maybe a YES; I don't recall seeing her yet.  Kat, maybe.  I'm a fan of red lipstick, up until it looks like spackle and exceeds the lip boundaries*.  :)  It doesn't help that I don't like her wise-ass snark all that much.


(* While I'm not really joking, that's also an inside joke; sorry.)
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Post by: Stadler on April 01, 2021, 10:48:27 AM
Quote
Henry Cavill is the best Superman ever.


No.

Out of all the Superman movies - he's the only one who doesn't act like a hero. He acts like he can't be f-ing bothered. Only cares about Lois and saving people is a chore.

But he's DREAMY.   I have absolutely zero desire to explore that aspect of my sexuality, but if I did, he, Matt Bomer, and Zak Efron would be at the top of the list.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on April 01, 2021, 10:55:29 AM
Stadler is obviously a man of high standards and exacting taste.  In that list, I have only one Maybe, several Yes, and a few Hell Yes.

Not really, though.   I'm actually fairly forgiving, in that way:   I like long hair, and a pretty smile is an absolute deal breaker.  Other than that, anything is fair game.  I don't like angles (I'd take 20 pounds overweight before I'd take 20 pounds underweight all day long), I don't like huge puffy lips, and I don't like chipped nail polish (being serious).  Other than that, pretty tolerant.  Margot Robbie, Sarah Shahi, IN, Angelina Jolie, Julia Roberts, OUT.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Orbert on April 01, 2021, 11:21:08 AM
That was supposed to be a joke.  Jingle listed several women that many guys consider very attractive, and you came back with two Nos, two Yesses, and three Maybes.  Your standards are at the very least higher than most.

A non-joking way to put it would be to say that you're just too damned picky.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on April 01, 2021, 11:27:24 AM
That was supposed to be a joke.  Jingle listed several women that many guys consider very attractive, and you came back with two Nos, two Yesses, and three Maybes.  Your standards are at the very least higher than most.

A non-joking way to put it would be to say that you're just too damned picky.

Haha, I guess.  I would have given Kirstie Alley a YES, if that helps.  :) :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jammindude on April 01, 2021, 11:28:59 AM
Two words

Simone. Missick.

(Misty Knight in the Netflix shows)

But Hayley Atwell is an extremely close #2.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on April 01, 2021, 11:42:34 AM
Elizabeth
Scarlett
Pom
Kat
Hayley
Ming Na
Karen
Alison

Yes. A thousand times yes.

The rest? Stadler can have them.

Alison Brie Larsen??
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 01, 2021, 12:00:26 PM
I don't get the love for Elizabeth Olson; she has that sort of sk8rgrrl, chipped nail polish thing going on that I really don't like.  G
I know exactly the vibe you're talking about, and I don't care for it either.

But I've never once gotten that vibe from Elizabeth Olsen, so I'm at a loss.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Kotowboy on April 01, 2021, 12:19:32 PM
Zak Efron ? :puke:

Let's just say there are some guys I wouldn't say no to - but I definitely would say no to him.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on April 01, 2021, 12:19:42 PM
Two words

Simone. Missick.

(Misty Knight in the Netflix shows)

But Hayley Atwell is an extremely close #2.

Hmmm. Iím trying to figure out what they have in common. But my attempts to guess have just gone tits up.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on April 01, 2021, 12:34:41 PM
Two words

Simone. Missick.

(Misty Knight in the Netflix shows)

But Hayley Atwell is an extremely close #2.

Hmmm. Iím trying to figure out what they have in common. But my attempts to guess have just gone tits up.

Ask Jammin' who his favorite* actress is (Hint:  I'll bet my CD collection he watches "Good Girls").

(* Or if not FAVORITE, then right up there at the top.)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jammindude on April 01, 2021, 05:49:28 PM
Two words

Simone. Missick.

(Misty Knight in the Netflix shows)

But Hayley Atwell is an extremely close #2.

Hmmm. Iím trying to figure out what they have in common. But my attempts to guess have just gone tits up.


That reminds me. Kat Dennings is a close 3rd.

 ;D

And yes Stadler, Christina Hendricks is very near perfect and I watched the first episode of Good Girls mostly for her. But the show itself didnít grab me.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on April 01, 2021, 07:54:30 PM
She looks really good in that show, I'll give you that.  I also have a weird thing for Meg Whitman (the actress, not the CEO). 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jammindude on April 01, 2021, 08:15:08 PM
She looks really good in that show, I'll give you that.  I also have a weird thing for Meg Whitman (the actress, not the CEO).

I totally get it. Not a bombshell....but I also have a thing for that ďmousyĒ look which no one gets but me.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on April 01, 2021, 08:23:58 PM
She looks really good in that show, I'll give you that.  I also have a weird thing for Meg Whitman (the actress, not the CEO).

Her?










Also itís Mae.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on April 02, 2021, 09:03:13 AM
She looks really good in that show, I'll give you that.  I also have a weird thing for Meg Whitman (the actress, not the CEO).

Her?










Also itís Mae.

Was there supposed to be a photo there?   

Yeah, it is Mae. I was testing you.   :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on April 02, 2021, 09:16:35 AM
She looks really good in that show, I'll give you that.  I also have a weird thing for Meg Whitman (the actress, not the CEO).

Her?










Also itís Mae.

Was there supposed to be a photo there?   

Yeah, it is Mae. I was testing you.   :)

No photo. It was an Arrested Development joke.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on April 02, 2021, 09:47:57 AM
She looks really good in that show, I'll give you that.  I also have a weird thing for Meg Whitman (the actress, not the CEO).

Her?










Also itís Mae.

Was there supposed to be a photo there?   

Yeah, it is Mae. I was testing you.   :)

No photo. It was an Arrested Development joke.

Which I should have gotten!   Dammit!  (Ann Veal).

I have that on DVD; I should go back and watch it again.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Dream Team on April 02, 2021, 12:45:03 PM
Sounds like a few people havenít seen ScarJo at her best. Like in Don Jon.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on April 03, 2021, 10:14:00 AM
New Black Widow trailer.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp9pNPdNwjI

Hot damn this looks good.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: lonestar on April 03, 2021, 11:16:03 AM
New Black Widow trailer.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp9pNPdNwjI

Hot damn this looks good.

Seems they're going to give some flesh to the whole 'got a lot of red on my ledger' aspect of her character, which is the one thing I really wanted from this movie. Her main character arc is that sense of redemption, and I'd love an idea of what she's trying to redeem herself from. Also, ScarJo  :heart

I already made a self promise that this would be my first in theater movie, a flick like this can only be seen in IMAX on opening night.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on April 03, 2021, 04:57:09 PM
Okay, so:

- That looks REALLY good;
- I'm a sucker for that bank shot with the arrow (off the road); I love that shit;

And third, and this isn't good:  I just googled the other girl, and it's Florence Pugh.   And... she looks like my kid.  No, seriously, with her blond hair, she looks like my daughter.

 :tdwn

Well that just sucked all the fun out of it!  :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: lonestar on April 04, 2021, 12:06:02 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: axeman90210 on April 05, 2021, 10:21:53 AM
Just saw the new trailer for Loki, looks excellent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW948Va-l10
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on April 05, 2021, 12:26:12 PM
I am way more jacked for this than I am with anything else from Disney+ at the moment.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: lonestar on April 05, 2021, 01:36:44 PM
That looks so incredibly dope.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: kingshmegland on April 05, 2021, 01:42:30 PM
That looks so incredibly dope.

my 8 year old nephew was teaching my Fortnite Slang. So now it's "That's cracked!"
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Orbert on April 05, 2021, 02:00:23 PM
Owen Wilson?

Ha ha, come on.  Seriously... Owen Wilson?

Other than that, it's looks pretty cool.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Zook on April 05, 2021, 07:09:31 PM
That looks so incredibly dope.

my 8 year old nephew was teaching my Fortnite Slang. So now it's "That's cracked!"

I really hope that doesn't catch on.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: kingshmegland on April 05, 2021, 07:21:36 PM
That looks so incredibly dope.

my 8 year old nephew was teaching my Fortnite Slang. So now it's "That's cracked!"

I really hope that doesn't catch on.

Only around him. The joy in his eyes made me look up that stuff.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on April 06, 2021, 07:58:04 AM
As you might tell in the "Irritated" thread, I'm not a big fan of the slang, for the most part.  BUT, King is sort of right; when my step son - who is now 13 - would try out some new phrase or buzz word, he sometimes gets this look in his eye, a sort of anticipation of "is this going to land?  Are they going to think it's funny and/or clever?"    And as much as I hate the slang, I don't have it in me to crush this kid's spirit.   :) :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 06, 2021, 08:28:10 AM
Back in my day, I never used any "slang".
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on April 06, 2021, 08:42:40 AM
Kat, maybe.  I'm a fan of red lipstick, up until it looks like spackle and exceeds the lip boundaries*.  :)  It doesn't help that I don't like her wise-ass snark all that much.

Yeah, I found myself undecided about whether I liked her or was too annoyed and found her offputting.  But in the first two Thor films, I think that is exactly what they were going for with her character.  But for what it's worth, she shows up later in another Marvel property you haven't seen yet, and comes across a lot more likeable.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on April 19, 2021, 08:30:22 AM
Shang-Chi trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giWIr7U1deA

Looks promising.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 19, 2021, 11:02:46 AM
Shang-Chi trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giWIr7U1deA

Looks promising.
Indeed.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: DoctorAction on April 20, 2021, 12:07:59 AM
I'll definitely be watching but I didn't get much in the way of MCU DNA in there. Looked like a martial arts movie, which is fine, but that's all.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: The Letter M on April 20, 2021, 12:20:19 AM
I'll definitely be watching but I didn't get much in the way of MCU DNA in there. Looked like a martial arts movie, which is fine, but that's all.

Other than the fact that we will finally see the *real* Mandarin, leader of the Ten Rings, which have been present in the MCU since Iron Man 1 (and have appeared in IM2, IM3, and Ant-Man, and I think maybe Agents Of SHIELD too).

I've seen the trailer at least half a dozen times now, and I'm probably more hyped for this than BW or The Eternals this year. Just four and a half months to go!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: DoctorAction on April 20, 2021, 12:57:34 AM
Ah, ok. I didn't catch that in the trailer. I only remember him as Ben Kingsley from IM3.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jammindude on April 20, 2021, 05:56:14 AM
Ah, ok. I didn't catch that in the trailer. I only remember him as Ben Kingsley from IM3.

And thereís a Marvel One Shot where Slattery (Ben Kingsleyís character) is assassinated by a henchman for the real Mandarin for using the name.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: DoctorAction on April 20, 2021, 08:48:03 AM
Yeah, some googling unearthed that for me. I've not seen that. I need to check D+ tonight.  :tup
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: The Letter M on April 20, 2021, 09:13:24 AM
Ah, ok. I didn't catch that in the trailer. I only remember him as Ben Kingsley from IM3.

And thereís a Marvel One Shot where Slattery (Ben Kingsleyís character) is assassinated by a henchman for the real Mandarin for using the name.

Not assassinated, but broken out of jail by an undercover Ten Rings operative, taking him out to see "the real Mandarin" because he wants to speak to Trevor. If he isn't mentioned in Shang-Chi, I'll be a bit bummed, but I would understand if he isn't. The Marel One-Shots are all Canon, though, and I believe "All Hail The King" was the last one (sadly), and also featured Justin Hammer, who I hope returns in the Armor Wars series!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 20, 2021, 09:37:06 AM
I read yesterday that Olivia Colman is in talks to be involved in the Secret Invasion show.  Holy cow, that's another acting heavyweight for the MCU.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jammindude on April 20, 2021, 12:15:40 PM
Ah, ok. I didn't catch that in the trailer. I only remember him as Ben Kingsley from IM3.

And thereís a Marvel One Shot where Slattery (Ben Kingsleyís character) is assassinated by a henchman for the real Mandarin for using the name.

Not assassinated, but broken out of jail by an undercover Ten Rings operative, taking him out to see "the real Mandarin" because he wants to speak to Trevor. If he isn't mentioned in Shang-Chi, I'll be a bit bummed, but I would understand if he isn't. The Marel One-Shots are all Canon, though, and I believe "All Hail The King" was the last one (sadly), and also featured Justin Hammer, who I hope returns in the Armor Wars series!

-Marc.

Are you sure? Thought I remember that there was a moment when he was going to take his picture but there was a gun in the camera? Now I have to go back and look at it again
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jammindude on April 20, 2021, 12:21:00 PM
I stand corrected. He is alive.

Hope he makes a cameo.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: The Letter M on April 20, 2021, 12:24:38 PM
I stand corrected. He is alive.

Hope he makes a cameo.

It would be fantastic just to see him for like 2 minutes just to have the Mandarin use his rings/bracelets of power to death-punch Trevor to make him pay for soiling his name.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: DoctorAction on April 20, 2021, 03:48:31 PM
Yeah, some googling unearthed that for me. I've not seen that. I need to check D+ tonight.  :tup

That one shot is not on D+. Harrumph.  :tdwn
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Orbert on April 20, 2021, 07:54:56 PM
Bummer.  I was going to check for it, but I guess you've saved me the trouble, so thanks.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jammindude on April 20, 2021, 08:05:29 PM
I love owning the DVDs  ;D :angel:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: faizoff on April 20, 2021, 08:37:56 PM
And me with the blu-rays  ;D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Fiery Winds on April 20, 2021, 09:03:22 PM
And me with the 4k UHDs  ;D

I've somehow been completely unaware of these canonical Marvel One Shots, I'll have to check those out.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: faizoff on April 20, 2021, 09:17:56 PM
lol touche, I have just begun my 4k collection and haven't felt like double dipping on 4k upgrades of all the blurays just yet.

I like all the one shot films, shame they stopped doing them.

Here's the list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_One-Shots#Films
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jammindude on April 20, 2021, 09:30:43 PM
Actually, I had a senior moment where I was just thinking of all discs as DVDs and now I feel like an idiot. :loser: :facepalm:

But all mine are actually Blu-Ray and 6 of them are 4K. GOTG2, Homecoming, CM, IW, Endgame, and FFH.

AOU, Ant Man, and Civil War I have in 3D! (And yes, I have all the equipment to play it, but havenít used it in forever)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on April 20, 2021, 11:44:11 PM
My phase 1 films are DVD, with the exception of Avengers (BR). 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: The Letter M on April 21, 2021, 12:00:03 AM
Even though I owned most of Phase 3 as stand-alone BDs (mostly the Target Exclusive sets with bonus books), I also completed the four Marvel Studios Cinematic Universe box sets recently, and for the average price of about $50 per set, they're a steal.

(https://uc695e8f45989d4e1994f29e9734.previews.dropboxusercontent.com/p/thumb/ABL42NXcP2qWID-Ztlml3Vxoln4Ej6PWd9t9toTSKa7FXX3nYHGc_Frmkv0TdDmZ83dI24wmSUk5USaQyF-awwQOoI2JHzZJJr67RWGwBOqK0NmAsUqSYhASwDVmMhdGMQS_k8oRZGSHY2YMFk4IpSEiH2BT9_QBUmFHbrV_mkaAUvurgYp32fIwmO_GddBadZaFX-T6lQMtjKEK-ije3Mbez599rak1JVugyAKe4dfZTOs-goyORPVFylfE21Fkaq8lngyOYi_8iAG2elDY2SOCFYVQUQJtfnQxN1b6IlKGz-BgySzwZtIKaRl8C3T-bpvgK42SE1Ip9RQgZzZH-H0eMdHEKGYGiPlKNxykTwyyL5U1SXXIF3L-sR-mBHlnGGurheYT8Jc4zNVAQt5ZS9xf/p.jpeg?fv_content=true&size_mode=5)

Each set also comes with mini-posters for each film, and special art cards with art by Matt Ferguson.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: lonestar on April 21, 2021, 06:51:07 AM
I got D+ so I wouldn't have to own the DVDs
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on April 21, 2021, 07:32:54 AM
I got D+ so I wouldn't have to own the DVDs

Rite?  Surprised those one-shots aren't on D+.  There's some uploads on Dailymotion if anyone wants to find 'em.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 21, 2021, 07:52:37 AM
I read yesterday that Olivia Colman is in talks to be involved in the Secret Invasion show.  Holy cow, that's another acting heavyweight for the MCU.
And now, apparently Emilia Clarke has signed on to this project as well.  The Mother of Dragons comes to Marvel!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: DoctorAction on April 21, 2021, 03:48:05 PM
I got D+ so I wouldn't have to own the DVDs

Rite?  Surprised those one-shots aren't on D+.  There's some uploads on Dailymotion if anyone wants to find 'em.

Ta. Will check that out
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Fiery Winds on April 22, 2021, 09:03:34 PM
Rewatching the MCU starting with Iron Man. At 23:37 the group holding Tony Stark is called "the Ten Rings". I forget if that thread was ever picked up again (hence the rewatch), but I'm curious if Shang-Chi will have a callback here.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on April 22, 2021, 09:05:18 PM
Rewatching the MCU starting with Iron Man. At 23:37 the group holding Tony Stark is called "the Ten Rings". I forget if that thread was ever picked up again (hence the rewatch), but I'm curious if Shang-Chi will have a callback here.

Yea. Iíd say itís all connected. I dunno if Shang Chi will directly call back anything from Iron Man but itís the same group.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2021, 09:20:20 PM
Yup.  And obviously referred to in IM3 (they used the Ten Rings logo for Trevor's "Mandarin" TV appearances).  And one of the potential buyers in Ant Man had a Ten Rings neck tat.  There may have been other subtle references as well.  The thread has definitely been there. 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Fiery Winds on April 22, 2021, 09:31:38 PM
Thanks for those references, I suppose I'm speculating more on the specific connection between the Ten Rings in Shang-Chi and the group that kidnapped Tony Stark.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2021, 11:33:56 PM
I don't think they knew where they were going with it back then, but I am sure they will make it connect.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on April 25, 2021, 07:13:34 PM
Director for the upcoming Eternals movie just won the best director Oscar. Iíd say that bodes well.


Has Marvel ever had a best director Oscar winner on their movie before?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: kingshmegland on April 25, 2021, 07:41:47 PM
Kenneth Branagh was nominated.   Didn't win.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on April 25, 2021, 07:58:09 PM
Kenneth Branagh was nominated.   Didn't win.

Yea, Ryan Coogler got nominated too. But I do think this is a first winner. I hope she brought some of that talent to The Eternals.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: kingshmegland on April 25, 2021, 08:21:29 PM
I love the anticipation. I have to wait a month plus for Loki?

DAMMIT!!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: faizoff on April 25, 2021, 08:30:36 PM
Oh dang I was under the impression that it was starting within a week or two. Loki's set to premier June 11th.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: The Letter M on April 26, 2021, 12:34:29 AM
Sadly, with Black Widow being pushed back from May to July, we are left a whole month with no new MCU content to talk about. I'm sure BW would've helped fill that gap between TFATWS and Loki, but now we have to wait. I think we got spoiled having TFATWS coming just 2 weeks after WandaVision.

Still no release dates for What If...?, Hawkeye (which just finished filming last week), and Ms. Marvel, the latter two of which I suspect will air between October and December. Other than those 3 series, we have 4 films this year for MCU content on the back half of 2021. Delays made everything become so stacked for the July 2021-July 2022 year, with 7 films releasing in 12 months' time, and probably 4 Disney+ series (as She-Hulk and Armor Wars are filming or will film soon, so I suspect those will release in the first half of 2022).

-Marc.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on May 03, 2021, 07:50:16 AM
Looks like we got a few updated titles.

Black Panther 2 will be Wakanda Forever. And Captain Marvel 2 will be called ďThe MarvelsĒ.

Exciting stuff!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on May 03, 2021, 09:13:45 AM
I gather you captured that from this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdpxoFcdORI

2:57... color me intrigued.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on May 03, 2021, 12:09:45 PM
I'm not gonna lie, that's...a pretty solid hype piece.  Color me sufficiently hyped. 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 03, 2021, 02:54:46 PM
I'm not gonna lie, that's...a pretty solid hype piece.  Color me sufficiently hyped.
Yep.  Not gonna lie, I had to wipe a tear from my eye.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: lonestar on May 03, 2021, 05:47:31 PM
Marvel just does everything a bazillion times better than everyone else. I still watch audience reaction vids of the 'On Your Left' scene just to relive the energy of that opening night, and it still gives me fucking chills every goddamn time.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Zook on May 03, 2021, 06:00:06 PM
They used bootleg audience reaction footage... Is Marvel going to copyright strike themselves?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on May 03, 2021, 06:51:29 PM
They used bootleg audience reaction footage... Is Marvel going to copyright strike themselves?

Apparently it was filmed by the Russos when they went to see it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Zook on May 03, 2021, 06:53:37 PM
They used bootleg audience reaction footage... Is Marvel going to copyright strike themselves?

Apparently it was filmed by the Russos when they went to see it.

Still a crime. Disney is gonna blacklist The Russo's for sure.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: The Letter M on May 03, 2021, 08:28:44 PM
They used bootleg audience reaction footage... Is Marvel going to copyright strike themselves?

Apparently it was filmed by the Russos when they went to see it.

Still a crime. Disney is gonna blacklist The Russo's for sure.

Just like how they fired James Gunn...oh wait.

Also, the Russos are responsible for two of the five highest grossing films of all time. If they want to come back for another Captain America or Avengers film, and Feige thinks they'll be good for it, I doubt Disney would deny them the chance.

As for today's teaser, the new footage of The Eternals has me extremely hyped, and I hope it does as well as GOTG Vol. 1 did in terms of creating a likeable ensemble cast out of mostly unknown comic book characters. Then again, before the MCU, unless you read comics, no one really knew who Iron Man or Thor were.

It still blows my mind that we're getting SEVEN MCU films between this July and July 2022, with Wakanda Forever capping that run, which sounds like it'll pay tribute to Chadwick in a beautiful way with his rallying cry from Infinity War so aptly spliced into the montage.

The Marvels has a fun title card with further confirmation of Photon's and Ms. Marvel's involvement.

I'm wondering if Disney/Marvel still have the supposed October 2022 release date earmarked for another MCU film, which was announced last year, but they glossed right over it in the video. I was certain it would be Ant-Man 3 since Michael Douglas previously said it would come out in 2022, but I guess it got bumped back to 2023.

Maybe they decided to lay off on October 2022, or perhaps it'll be a surprise film, like Captain America 4 or Deadpool 3? Still no sign of Blade or a Mutant-centric film. Either way, with ten films in the next two years, and at least 10 more Disney+ shows in the pipeline, it's a damn good time to be a Marvel/MCU fan!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: ariich on May 03, 2021, 11:53:32 PM
They used bootleg audience reaction footage... Is Marvel going to copyright strike themselves?

Apparently it was filmed by the Russos when they went to see it.

Still a crime.
Not if it's for your own personal use, it isn't (or in this case, Disney's own use).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Zook on May 04, 2021, 03:21:35 AM
I wasn't being serious.

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: ariich on May 04, 2021, 04:05:31 AM
I wasn't being serious.
I know, I was just being informative for the benefit of others. :P
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Vmadera00 on May 04, 2021, 07:23:54 AM
Marvel just does everything a bazillion times better than everyone else. I still watch audience reaction vids of the 'On Your Left' scene just to relive the energy of that opening night, and it still gives me fucking chills every goddamn time.

That's me with Thor's arrival to Wakanda from IW. Opening night for IW was intense!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: lonestar on May 04, 2021, 09:24:54 AM
Marvel just does everything a bazillion times better than everyone else. I still watch audience reaction vids of the 'On Your Left' scene just to relive the energy of that opening night, and it still gives me fucking chills every goddamn time.

That's me with Thor's arrival to Wakanda from IW. Opening night for IW was intense!

Totally agree. Can't wait to relive it again, I've already committed to myself to be there opening night IMAX for black widow.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 05, 2021, 08:50:00 AM
Still no sign of Blade or a Mutant-centric film.
That's fine.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: The Letter M on May 05, 2021, 10:31:41 AM
https://youtu.be/mNyLzc3MU_E

Tom Hiddleston has announced that Loki will now premier on June 9th (6/9...nice).

-Marc.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on May 05, 2021, 10:51:59 AM
https://youtu.be/mNyLzc3MU_E

Tom Hiddleston has announced that Loki will now premier on June 9th (6/9...nice).

-Marc.

Invariably to not conflict/compete with the releases of The Bad Batch.  Good move, to spread them out.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jammindude on May 05, 2021, 07:00:40 PM
And also so episode 5 wonít come out the same day Black Widow does.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: The Letter M on May 07, 2021, 10:23:35 PM
Iron Man 2 turned 11 today (May 7th), and had Black Widow not been delayed again, it would've come out 11 years after ScarJo debuted as Natasha Romanoff.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on May 18, 2021, 12:52:20 PM
So....

Daughter home from school and so we watched Black Panther and Thor: Ragnarok.   

Indifferent on Black Panther; it was good not great.  I liked Chadwick Bozeman, and it was great to see Sterling K. Brown and Angela Bassett.   Michael B. Jordan was annoying AF.   I liked the battle around the train, but some of the fight scenes looked fake to me.

Thor: Ragnarok was a-MAZing, one of the best of the group so far.   I generally HATE humor in these types of movies, because it usually takes the form of those stupid "Hasta la vista, babay!" quips that I can't stand, but that was legit one of the funniest movies I've seen in a long time, and yet it never once ever took anything away from the battles themselves.   Getting not one but TWO fight scenes set to Led Zeppelin's "The Immigrant Song" was like a special little birthday present at the mid-year point. Idris Elba, under-used, but still excellent; Tessa Thompson, excellent (need to see more of her, and maybe kick Natalie Portman to the curb!) and they even made Cate Blanchett, dare I say, HOT (at least when her hair was down; she looked ridiculous in the antler set). 

Nice touch with the Matt Damon, Luke Hemsworth and Sam Neill cameos.

Infinity War up next!!!
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 18, 2021, 01:13:23 PM
Man, are you in for a treat or the next 5 hours of viewing.  I re-watched both IW and Endgame a few weeks back.  Damn good stuff.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on May 18, 2021, 01:20:21 PM
Indifferent on Black Panther; it was good not great.  I liked Chadwick Bozeman, and it was great to see Sterling K. Brown and Angela Bassett.   Michael B. Jordan was annoying AF.   I liked the battle around the train, but some of the fight scenes looked fake to me.

Agreed that it was "good not great."  But there were lots of individual things that were great to me.  I like Chadwick Bozeman, but his accent has never sounded genuine to me, which makes an otherwise pretty good performance by him seem a bit stilted.  Mbaku as a character was a bit problematic for me.  I like the character and like what they did with him overall.  But the fact that he was ready to kill T'Challa during the initial fight for the throne didn't feel consistent with how his motivations and character were fleshed out later on.  And I liked how they played Michael B. Jordan's character, but I do not think that he was one of the best Marvel villains, as some have said.  As a villain, I thought he was "good not great."  And I totally agree with the train fight scene.  Good battle.  But at times, it looked so fake CGI that it took me out of the moment.  But overall, good movie with some good messaging.

Hopefully, you watched the the mid-credit and post-credit scenes.  I forget which is which now, but one is pretty important.  (and the other is just cool, even though it may not have much direct bearing on the MCU)

Thor: Ragnarok was a-MAZing, one of the best of the group so far.   I generally HATE humor in these types of movies, because it usually takes the form of those stupid "Hasta la vista, babay!" quips that I can't stand, but that was legit one of the funniest movies I've seen in a long time, and yet it never once ever took anything away from the battles themselves.   Getting not one but TWO fight scenes set to Led Zeppelin's "The Immigrant Song" was like a special little birthday present at the mid-year point. Idris Elba, under-used, but still excellent; Tessa Thompson, excellent (need to see more of her, and maybe kick Natalie Portman to the curb!) and they even made Cate Blanchett, dare I say, HOT (at least when her hair was down; she looked ridiculous in the antler set).

Yeah, agreed on most of that.  The issues I had with this one typically get overlooked by most, so must just be me.  :dunno:  But still excellent movie overall.  Hopefully, you watched the mid-credits and post-credit scenes on this one as well.  If you haven't, go back and do so before going any farther.  Please.

And I totally agree with you on the humor aspect.  Pretty much all of it really hit home for me.

I just did a sequential watch of Ragnarok, Infinity War, and Endgame recently.  And this isn't really a spoiler (well, I guess it technically is, but is VERY minor).  But given what Strange says in Ragnarok about actively monitoring beings that are a threat to earth, I am kinda surprised that he apparently doesn't know who Thanos is.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Cool Chris on May 18, 2021, 02:02:41 PM
There are mid-credit scenes now?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on May 18, 2021, 02:06:18 PM
???  There have been for quite some time now.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Cool Chris on May 18, 2021, 02:12:21 PM
I watch maybe a couple new films a year (not counting the ones I sleep through with my kids during family movie night).  And I haven't sat through the entire credits ever.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: faizoff on May 18, 2021, 02:48:35 PM
After the movie ends and the special credits sequence starts Marvel movies typically have a scene right after that ends often referred to as the mid-credit scene. Then they almost always have a scene right after all the credits roll a good 10 mins or so after.

If you attend the movies with the full-on Marvel crowd on opening night or weekend, almost no one will get up from their seats until the very end.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on May 18, 2021, 02:56:57 PM
Yeah; both BP and T:R had a stylized credits - artwork, fancy type - then a cut scene, then more standard credits - white letters on a black backdrop - and then a final cut scene.

And yes I watched both for both films.

I'm surprised someone called Michael B. Jordan one of the "best Marvel villains".   I don't have a list, but if I did, he's not even in the top ten.  Maybe not top 15. 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on May 18, 2021, 03:11:24 PM
I couldn't possibly do a ranking, but he subjectively feels like he would fall around bottom end of my top 10 or so. 

Hela is a hard one to place for me.  I mostly want to place her pretty high up.  But it viscerally bothers me that they way overpowered her/underpowered the "normal" Asgardians.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: ZirconBlue on May 18, 2021, 07:57:53 PM


I'm surprised someone called Michael B. Jordan one of the "best Marvel villains".



Unlike most villains he actually has legitimate grievances with how Wakanda has operated, and has noble goals, if not methods.  In the end, T'Challa actually accepts that Killmonger was right that Wakanda needed to no longer remain isolationist, instead using their resources to help others.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on May 19, 2021, 07:16:02 AM


I'm surprised someone called Michael B. Jordan one of the "best Marvel villains".



Unlike most villains he actually has legitimate grievances with how Wakanda has operated, and has noble goals, if not methods.  In the end, T'Challa actually accepts that Killmonger was right that Wakanda needed to no longer remain isolationist, instead using their resources to help others.

Okay, I guess, but I'm not exactly swimming in feelings of "nobility" when a guy has so many kills his torso looks like an alligator skin wallet.   Treading on thin P/R ice here, I guess, but just "wanting to help others who are like him" isn't the silver bullet that I think it is to some others. For me, that doesn't excuse everything else.  To me, he was, like most villains, just someone who wanted things to be HIS way and wasn't interested in playing nice with others.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on May 19, 2021, 08:39:16 AM
To me, he was, like most villains, just someone who wanted things to be HIS way and wasn't interested in playing nice with others.

Exactly.  His purpose being "understandable" doesn't make it "noble." 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on May 19, 2021, 01:29:25 PM
Stadler, hurry up and watch Infinity War!

Note:  Chronologically, it picks up literally a few minutes after the end credits scene from Ragnarok.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: DoctorAction on May 19, 2021, 04:09:34 PM
... even made Cate Blanchett, dare I say, HOT

"Even" made her hot?

(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6d900991522d3a593634abf1e976d946)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Orbert on May 19, 2021, 04:56:10 PM
Cate is a strange case.  She has nice features, and sometimes looks absolutely lovely (such as in the above picture), but most of the time she looks to me like a wet rag.  Something is just off, way off, and I've never really figured out what it is.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jammindude on May 19, 2021, 07:05:15 PM
Iíve never been a fan of that slim, elegant, regal look. Just does nothing for me at all.

I like em short and thick.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Vmadera00 on May 19, 2021, 07:12:47 PM
I like em short and thick.

(https://i.imgflip.com/1wuoi7.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jammindude on May 19, 2021, 10:46:04 PM
 :rollin
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Post by: DoctorAction on May 20, 2021, 12:04:38 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: soupytwist on May 20, 2021, 02:28:48 AM
Going to be a fun 19 Marvel months - 8 movies and 6 or 7 shows all coming before 2023.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on May 20, 2021, 07:41:54 AM
... even made Cate Blanchett, dare I say, HOT

"Even" made her hot?

(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6d900991522d3a593634abf1e976d946)

She looks great there, no doubt.  I can't say I feel that way all the time.  I'm more of a classic beauty guy, and while not quite to Jammin's standards, I'm not a fan of the waif look.    Margot Robbie, Kate Winslet...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: ZirconBlue on May 20, 2021, 11:43:24 AM




I'm surprised someone called Michael B. Jordan one of the "best Marvel villains".



Unlike most villains he actually has legitimate grievances with how Wakanda has operated, and has noble goals, if not methods.  In the end, T'Challa actually accepts that Killmonger was right that Wakanda needed to no longer remain isolationist, instead using their resources to help others.

Okay, I guess, but I'm not exactly swimming in feelings of "nobility" when a guy has so many kills his torso looks like an alligator skin wallet.   Treading on thin P/R ice here, I guess, but just "wanting to help others who are like him" isn't the silver bullet that I think it is to some others. For me, that doesn't excuse everything else.  To me, he was, like most villains, just someone who wanted things to be HIS way and wasn't interested in playing nice with others.



Sharing Wakanda's resources to help the downtrodden is a noble goal, but, yeah, he IS a villain.  So, how he wants to go about that isn't good.  But it's much more nuanced than "conquer earth", or many of the other Marvel villain motivations thus far.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: DoctorAction on May 20, 2021, 11:43:43 AM
Build aside, I wasn't really aware of her beauty until I saw her on a chat show here in the UK about a decade back and I was just like  :o
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on May 24, 2021, 08:17:09 AM
New Eternals trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WVDKZJkGlY

My excitement for this is ramping up a little.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Vmadera00 on May 24, 2021, 08:49:21 AM
Same here,

I am very curious as to why they did not interfered with any of the previous events. I feel this movie will set up Marvel for the next couple of years in terms of plot :corn
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: DoctorAction on May 24, 2021, 02:01:20 PM
Got me looking forward!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: lordxizor on May 24, 2021, 03:06:18 PM
I am very curious as to why they did not interfered with any of the previous events.
I think this is always going to be a big question with new characters like this. Curious if they'll address it or just ignore it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on May 24, 2021, 04:25:32 PM
I am very curious as to why they did not interfered with any of the previous events.
I think this is always going to be a big question with new characters like this. Curious if they'll address it or just ignore it.

Maybe they did interfere in one of the 14M other timelines Strange saw, but none of those were winners.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on May 24, 2021, 04:33:41 PM
Same here,

I am very curious as to why they did not interfered with any of the previous events. I feel this movie will set up Marvel for the next couple of years in terms of plot :corn

From what Iíve read in the comics they have a very specific mission in mind. They defend the earth, not necessarily specific people on it. I doubt they cared a ton about thanos doing his thing or Loki or ultras taking over since the earth wouldíve been fine. Iím guessing theyíre choosing to interfere now because the Celestials are coming back. Then again, I dunno if theyíve changed much from the comics.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on May 25, 2021, 06:02:07 AM
I watched The Avengers: Infinity War and...   it was a lot.   My daughter said I was going to "poop" when I saw it, and she was crying like a baby at the end (Groot, Spider-Man).  I didn't, but I've been thinking about it most of last night and this morning (which sucks, because I have a presentation to do later this morning). 

It was a lot.  I know too much, in a sense, so I know some things have to change, but for the life of me I have no idea how they're going to get there. 

I will say, Thanos is a better character than I thought he was going to be.  I don't know if it's just because I'm surprised at how good the effects were, or the degree to which they developed his motivations (compared to his previous appearances) but it was solid.   I haven't watched any of the movies a second time yet (except for the first two, just because I watched them so long ago) but this may be the first.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on May 25, 2021, 06:12:10 AM
I saw IW four times in the theater, and have probably re-watched it just as many at home.  Endgame I saw twice in theater, and re-watched 3 or 4 times.  I think overall, IW is the better movie, the the climax of Endgame is beyond god-tier.  As incredible the Wakanda/Titan sequences were... Endgame says, "Hold My Beer" - but in a good way.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: lonestar on May 25, 2021, 06:59:34 AM
I saw IW four times in the theater, and have probably re-watched it just as many at home.  Endgame I saw twice in theater, and re-watched 3 or 4 times.  I think overall, IW is the better movie, the the climax of Endgame is beyond god-tier.  As incredible the Wakanda/Titan sequences were... Endgame says, "Hold My Beer" - but in a good way.

On your left....
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Vmadera00 on May 25, 2021, 07:57:46 AM
I watched The Avengers: Infinity War and...   it was a lot.   My daughter said I was going to "poop" when I saw it, and she was crying like a baby at the end (Groot, Spider-Man).  I didn't, but I've been thinking about it most of last night and this morning (which sucks, because I have a presentation to do later this morning). 

It was a lot.  I know too much, in a sense, so I know some things have to change, but for the life of me I have no idea how they're going to get there. 

I will say, Thanos is a better character than I thought he was going to be.  I don't know if it's just because I'm surprised at how good the effects were, or the degree to which they developed his motivations (compared to his previous appearances) but it was solid.   I haven't watched any of the movies a second time yet (except for the first two, just because I watched them so long ago) but this may be the first.

"It was a lot" sounds about right. I remember leaving the theater with a "WTF just happened" reaction, and not even knowing what to say.

Be happy you don't need to wait a year to watch Endgame, with a different theory about the movie on every website you visited (Though some of them were funny).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: lonestar on May 25, 2021, 09:12:32 AM
Like the antman up Thanos' ass one?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on May 25, 2021, 09:17:50 AM
Like the antman up Thanos' ass one?

Talk about a missed opportunity.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on May 25, 2021, 09:21:12 AM
I watched The Avengers: Infinity War and...   it was a lot.   My daughter said I was going to "poop" when I saw it, and she was crying like a baby at the end (Groot, Spider-Man).  I didn't, but I've been thinking about it most of last night and this morning (which sucks, because I have a presentation to do later this morning). 

It was a lot.  I know too much, in a sense, so I know some things have to change, but for the life of me I have no idea how they're going to get there. 

I will say, Thanos is a better character than I thought he was going to be.  I don't know if it's just because I'm surprised at how good the effects were, or the degree to which they developed his motivations (compared to his previous appearances) but it was solid.   I haven't watched any of the movies a second time yet (except for the first two, just because I watched them so long ago) but this may be the first.

Infinity War is my favorite MCU film.  Endgame is close.  But Infinity War is SO good on so many levels.  Endgame does quite a few things arguably even better, including huge emotional impact.  The only small issue I have (no spoilers--don't worry), which others will likely agree with, is that it...let's just say it pushes the envelope a bit farther in terms of having to suspend belief.  Not a huge issue.  But it goes just far enough that it gets the #2 spot rather than the #1 (and Spiderman: Homecoming is my #3). 

Yeah, it is "a lot."  In many ways.  In terms of plot alone, it does SO MUCH, and has so many characters and so many settings.  And yet, it doesn't really feel rushed or feel like they shortchanged any of the storylines.  Yes, it moves at a breakneck pace.  But that pace serves the story rather than detracting from it.  It feels like it needs to move at a breakneck pace because that is what Thanos would be doing under the circumstances. 

And yeah, Thanos is a great character.  Infinity War really is his movie.  The only character that comes close in terms of character arc in this film alone is Thor.  But everything centers on Thanos.  And to me, it is fascinating that probably the best and most significant feeling relationships in this movie all seem to revolve around Thanos.  The two biggest and perhaps most obvious are Thor's relationship with Thanos and Tony's relationship with Thanos.  Both Thor and Tony are driven because of what Thanos has done and is doing.  But to a lesser extent, that is true of a lot of other characters as well, even those who maybe didn't really even know about Thanos before the events of this film.  Gamorrah, Starlord, Nebula, Drax, Vision, Wanda...  All were driven, to a great extent, either by a direct past relationship with Thanos or by things he did in the past that they discovered him to be behind in this film.  It was really done quite brilliantly.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Vmadera00 on May 25, 2021, 09:39:27 AM
Like the antman up Thanos' ass one?

Talk about a missed opportunity.

 :lol Yup, that was one of them. Maybe we will see it in the "What If...?" series.

I agree with Bosk that this was Thanos movie, he was the protagonist, not the avengers.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on May 25, 2021, 11:19:27 AM
I watched The Avengers: Infinity War and...   it was a lot.   My daughter said I was going to "poop" when I saw it, and she was crying like a baby at the end (Groot, Spider-Man).  I didn't, but I've been thinking about it most of last night and this morning (which sucks, because I have a presentation to do later this morning). 

It was a lot.  I know too much, in a sense, so I know some things have to change, but for the life of me I have no idea how they're going to get there. 

I will say, Thanos is a better character than I thought he was going to be.  I don't know if it's just because I'm surprised at how good the effects were, or the degree to which they developed his motivations (compared to his previous appearances) but it was solid.   I haven't watched any of the movies a second time yet (except for the first two, just because I watched them so long ago) but this may be the first.

Infinity War is my favorite MCU film.  Endgame is close.  But Infinity War is SO good on so many levels.  Endgame does quite a few things arguably even better, including huge emotional impact.  The only small issue I have (no spoilers--don't worry), which others will likely agree with, is that it...let's just say it pushes the envelope a bit farther in terms of having to suspend belief.  Not a huge issue.  But it goes just far enough that it gets the #2 spot rather than the #1 (and Spiderman: Homecoming is my #3). 

Yeah, it is "a lot."  In many ways.  In terms of plot alone, it does SO MUCH, and has so many characters and so many settings.  And yet, it doesn't really feel rushed or feel like they shortchanged any of the storylines.  Yes, it moves at a breakneck pace.  But that pace serves the story rather than detracting from it.  It feels like it needs to move at a breakneck pace because that is what Thanos would be doing under the circumstances. 

And yeah, Thanos is a great character.  Infinity War really is his movie.  The only character that comes close in terms of character arc in this film alone is Thor.  But everything centers on Thanos.  And to me, it is fascinating that probably the best and most significant feeling relationships in this movie all seem to revolve around Thanos.  The two biggest and perhaps most obvious are Thor's relationship with Thanos and Tony's relationship with Thanos.  Both Thor and Tony are driven because of what Thanos has done and is doing.  But to a lesser extent, that is true of a lot of other characters as well, even those who maybe didn't really even know about Thanos before the events of this film.  Gamorrah, Starlord, Nebula, Drax, Vision, Wanda...  All were driven, to a great extent, either by a direct past relationship with Thanos or by things he did in the past that they discovered him to be behind in this film.  It was really done quite brilliantly.

I was most moved by the Thanos/Gamorrah scene.  And while I didn't cry, it seemed the most...  real.   I have no real belief that Dr. Strange's (my favorite MCU character) fate is final, but maybe Gamorrah's is, so it felt more emotional.  Don't tell me, but I'm still struggling with her asking Quill for a "favor", based on something SHE knew and Thanos didn't.  I'm not sure I've sussed all that out yet.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: The Letter M on May 25, 2021, 04:48:01 PM
I watched The Avengers: Infinity War and...   it was a lot.   My daughter said I was going to "poop" when I saw it, and she was crying like a baby at the end (Groot, Spider-Man).  I didn't, but I've been thinking about it most of last night and this morning (which sucks, because I have a presentation to do later this morning). 

It was a lot.  I know too much, in a sense, so I know some things have to change, but for the life of me I have no idea how they're going to get there. 

I will say, Thanos is a better character than I thought he was going to be.  I don't know if it's just because I'm surprised at how good the effects were, or the degree to which they developed his motivations (compared to his previous appearances) but it was solid.   I haven't watched any of the movies a second time yet (except for the first two, just because I watched them so long ago) but this may be the first.

Infinity War is my favorite MCU film.  Endgame is close.  But Infinity War is SO good on so many levels.  Endgame does quite a few things arguably even better, including huge emotional impact.  The only small issue I have (no spoilers--don't worry), which others will likely agree with, is that it...let's just say it pushes the envelope a bit farther in terms of having to suspend belief.  Not a huge issue.  But it goes just far enough that it gets the #2 spot rather than the #1 (and Spiderman: Homecoming is my #3). 

Yeah, it is "a lot."  In many ways.  In terms of plot alone, it does SO MUCH, and has so many characters and so many settings.  And yet, it doesn't really feel rushed or feel like they shortchanged any of the storylines.  Yes, it moves at a breakneck pace.  But that pace serves the story rather than detracting from it.  It feels like it needs to move at a breakneck pace because that is what Thanos would be doing under the circumstances. 

And yeah, Thanos is a great character.  Infinity War really is his movie.  The only character that comes close in terms of character arc in this film alone is Thor.  But everything centers on Thanos.  And to me, it is fascinating that probably the best and most significant feeling relationships in this movie all seem to revolve around Thanos.  The two biggest and perhaps most obvious are Thor's relationship with Thanos and Tony's relationship with Thanos.  Both Thor and Tony are driven because of what Thanos has done and is doing.  But to a lesser extent, that is true of a lot of other characters as well, even those who maybe didn't really even know about Thanos before the events of this film.  Gamorrah, Starlord, Nebula, Drax, Vision, Wanda...  All were driven, to a great extent, either by a direct past relationship with Thanos or by things he did in the past that they discovered him to be behind in this film.  It was really done quite brilliantly.

I was most moved by the Thanos/Gamorrah scene.  And while I didn't cry, it seemed the most...  real.   I have no real belief that Dr. Strange's (my favorite MCU character) fate is final, but maybe Gamorrah's is, so it felt more emotional.  Don't tell me, but I'm still struggling with her asking Quill for a "favor", based on something SHE knew and Thanos didn't.  I'm not sure I've sussed all that out yet.

Gamora was a real stand-out for me in IW, just as much as Thanos was. Their scenes were some of the most engaging in the film, both at Nowhere (RIP Collector) and at Vormir. And speaking of Vormir, what did you think of the return of the Red Skull? Sadly, he wasn't portrayed by Hugo Weaving, but Ross Marquand did a great job bringing the character back into the MCU. I hope he pops up again, maybe in a future Cap movie!

Given how un-busy my summer is going to be this year, I've planned out a massive MCU re-watch starting in late June, to coincide with the release of Black Widow. Assuming the film has Thursday night preview showings on July 8th, here's what my schedule will be for the MCU re-watch, featuring just the films at the Disney+ shows:

6/24 - Iron Man
6/25 - The Incredible Hulk
6/26 - Iron Man 2
6/27 - Thor
6/28 - Captain America: The First Avenger
6/29 - Avengers
6/30 - Iron Man 3
7/1 - Thor: The Dark World
7/2 - Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 1
7/3 - Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 2
7/4 - Captain America: The Winter Soldier (Happy Independence Day!!!)
7/5 - Avengers: Age Of Ultron
7/6 - Ant-Man
7/7 - Captain America: Civil War
7/8 - Black Widow
7/9 - Black Panther
7/10 - Spider-Man: Homecoming
7/11 - Doctor Strange
7/12 - Thor: Ragnarok
7/13 - Avengers: Infinity War
7/14 - And-Man & The Wasp
7/15 - Captain Marvel
7/16 - Avengers: Endgame
7/17 - WandaVision (Episodes 1-5)
7/18 - WandaVision (Episodes 6-9)
7/19 - The Falcon And The Winter Soldier (Episodes 1-3)
7/20 - The Falcon And The Winter Soldier (Episodes 4-6)
7/21 - Spider-Man: Far From Home

And depending on the timeline of the show (which might be irrelevant), Loki might come before WandaVision, or after Spider-Man: FFH. Either way, it'll get a re-watch later this summer, definitely before What If...? starts airing, which is supposedly in August at some point.

It's been a couple of years since I've watched most of these films, back when I rewatched them all after Endgame came out, but before/during the release of Far From Home. I think I timed my rewatch schedule around the BD release of Endgame (which would've been around August 2019 I think). Of course, if I happened to have work or am busy otherwise, all dates are subject to change and shuffling, though I do want to try and catch up to Civil War by July 7th so I can be fresh for Black Widow that weekend. And if I am up for it, I'll be sure to post my thoughts on these films as I revisit them!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on May 25, 2021, 05:17:41 PM

Gamora was a real stand-out for me in IW, just as much as Thanos was. Their scenes were some of the most engaging in the film, both at Nowhere (RIP Collector) and at Vormir. And speaking of Vormir, what did you think of the return of the Red Skull? Sadly, he wasn't portrayed by Hugo Weaving, but Ross Marquand did a great job bringing the character back into the MCU. I hope he pops up again, maybe in a future Cap movie!



HAHA, my daughter and I were arguing about that, until they said something in the movie.   I also liked the appearance of Tyrion Lannister.  What he's doing in the MCU is beyond me, but still!  :) :)

Look, no spoilers, but when someone dies in a superhero movie, it's only like 50-50 that it's real.   I know for a fact that some of the people who were vaporized have some.... future in the series in some form or fashion.  I'm hoping Gamorrah is in that group.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on May 25, 2021, 10:59:16 PM
So...you have Ant Man and The Wasp, Endgame, and Spiderman: Far from Home to go for phase 3.  All (most) questions will be answered.  :)

I suspect that when you are done, you may want to do a rewatch of Ragnarok, Infinity War, and Endgame (and maybe Far from Home).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: The Letter M on May 26, 2021, 12:53:21 AM
So...you have Ant Man and The Wasp, Endgame, and Spiderman: Far from Home to go for phase 3.  All (most) questions will be answered.  :)

I suspect that when you are done, you may want to do a rewatch of Ragnarok, Infinity War, and Endgame (and maybe Far from Home).

No Captain Marvel? Or did he see that one already? It was released just before Endgame.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on May 26, 2021, 06:03:46 AM
So...you have Ant Man and The Wasp, Endgame, and Spiderman: Far from Home to go for phase 3.  All (most) questions will be answered.  :)

I suspect that when you are done, you may want to do a rewatch of Ragnarok, Infinity War, and Endgame (and maybe Far from Home).

No Captain Marvel? Or did he see that one already? It was released just before Endgame.

-Marc.

I watched it a while ago.  I don't remember the exact order (as I watched them, I put an asterisk next to them, but like an idiot, I renumbered only the films I have remaining).   

I'm already going to rewatch IW before Endgame, since my wife missed the last half hour or so, and I am waiting for my daughter to be home to watch AM&W, Endgame and Spider-Man with all three of us.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: MinistroRaven on May 26, 2021, 12:42:02 PM
I watched The Avengers: Infinity War and...   it was a lot.   My daughter said I was going to "poop" when I saw it, and she was crying like a baby at the end (Groot, Spider-Man).  I didn't, but I've been thinking about it most of last night and this morning (which sucks, because I have a presentation to do later this morning). 

It was a lot.  I know too much, in a sense, so I know some things have to change, but for the life of me I have no idea how they're going to get there. 

I will say, Thanos is a better character than I thought he was going to be.  I don't know if it's just because I'm surprised at how good the effects were, or the degree to which they developed his motivations (compared to his previous appearances) but it was solid.   I haven't watched any of the movies a second time yet (except for the first two, just because I watched them so long ago) but this may be the first.

Infinity War is my favorite MCU film.  Endgame is close.  But Infinity War is SO good on so many levels.  Endgame does quite a few things arguably even better, including huge emotional impact.  The only small issue I have (no spoilers--don't worry), which others will likely agree with, is that it...let's just say it pushes the envelope a bit farther in terms of having to suspend belief.  Not a huge issue.  But it goes just far enough that it gets the #2 spot rather than the #1 (and Spiderman: Homecoming is my #3). 

Yeah, it is "a lot."  In many ways.  In terms of plot alone, it does SO MUCH, and has so many characters and so many settings.  And yet, it doesn't really feel rushed or feel like they shortchanged any of the storylines.  Yes, it moves at a breakneck pace.  But that pace serves the story rather than detracting from it.  It feels like it needs to move at a breakneck pace because that is what Thanos would be doing under the circumstances. 

And yeah, Thanos is a great character.  Infinity War really is his movie.  The only character that comes close in terms of character arc in this film alone is Thor.  But everything centers on Thanos.  And to me, it is fascinating that probably the best and most significant feeling relationships in this movie all seem to revolve around Thanos.  The two biggest and perhaps most obvious are Thor's relationship with Thanos and Tony's relationship with Thanos.  Both Thor and Tony are driven because of what Thanos has done and is doing.  But to a lesser extent, that is true of a lot of other characters as well, even those who maybe didn't really even know about Thanos before the events of this film.  Gamorrah, Starlord, Nebula, Drax, Vision, Wanda...  All were driven, to a great extent, either by a direct past relationship with Thanos or by things he did in the past that they discovered him to be behind in this film.  It was really done quite brilliantly.

I was most moved by the Thanos/Gamorrah scene.  And while I didn't cry, it seemed the most...  real.   I have no real belief that Dr. Strange's (my favorite MCU character) fate is final, but maybe Gamorrah's is, so it felt more emotional.  Don't tell me, but I'm still struggling with her asking Quill for a "favor", based on something SHE knew and Thanos didn't.  I'm not sure I've sussed all that out yet.

Gamora was a real stand-out for me in IW, just as much as Thanos was. Their scenes were some of the most engaging in the film, both at Nowhere (RIP Collector) and at Vormir. And speaking of Vormir, what did you think of the return of the Red Skull? Sadly, he wasn't portrayed by Hugo Weaving, but Ross Marquand did a great job bringing the character back into the MCU. I hope he pops up again, maybe in a future Cap movie!

Given how un-busy my summer is going to be this year, I've planned out a massive MCU re-watch starting in late June, to coincide with the release of Black Widow. Assuming the film has Thursday night preview showings on July 8th, here's what my schedule will be for the MCU re-watch, featuring just the films at the Disney+ shows:

6/24 - Iron Man
6/25 - The Incredible Hulk
6/26 - Iron Man 2
6/27 - Thor
6/28 - Captain America: The First Avenger
6/29 - Avengers
6/30 - Iron Man 3
7/1 - Thor: The Dark World
7/2 - Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 1
7/3 - Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 4
7/4 - Captain America: The Winter Soldier (Happy Independence Day!!!)
7/5 - Avengers: Age Of Ultron
7/6 - Ant-Man
7/7 - Captain America: Civil War
7/8 - Black Widow
7/9 - Black Panther
7/10 - Spider-Man: Homecoming
7/11 - Doctor Strange
7/12 - Thor: Ragnarok
7/13 - Avengers: Infinity War
7/14 - And-Man & The Wasp
7/15 - Captain Marvel
7/16 - Avengers: Endgame
7/17 - WandaVision (Episodes 1-5)
7/18 - WandaVision (Episodes 6-9)
7/19 - The Falcon And The Winter Soldier (Episodes 1-3)
7/20 - The Falcon And The Winter Soldier (Episodes 4-6)
7/21 - Spider-Man: Far From Home

And depending on the timeline of the show (which might be irrelevant), Loki might come before WandaVision, or after Spider-Man: FFH. Either way, it'll get a re-watch later this summer, definitely before What If...? starts airing, which is supposedly in August at some point.

It's been a couple of years since I've watched most of these films, back when I rewatched them all after Endgame came out, but before/during the release of Far From Home. I think I timed my rewatch schedule around the BD release of Endgame (which would've been around August 2019 I think). Of course, if I happened to have work or am busy otherwise, all dates are subject to change and shuffling, though I do want to try and catch up to Civil War by July 7th so I can be fresh for Black Widow that weekend. And if I am up for it, I'll be sure to post my thoughts on these films as I revisit them!

-Marc.

Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 4?!? I think I missed Vol 2 and 3, are those any good?  :rollin
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: The Letter M on May 26, 2021, 01:14:27 PM
I watched The Avengers: Infinity War and...   it was a lot.   My daughter said I was going to "poop" when I saw it, and she was crying like a baby at the end (Groot, Spider-Man).  I didn't, but I've been thinking about it most of last night and this morning (which sucks, because I have a presentation to do later this morning). 

It was a lot.  I know too much, in a sense, so I know some things have to change, but for the life of me I have no idea how they're going to get there. 

I will say, Thanos is a better character than I thought he was going to be.  I don't know if it's just because I'm surprised at how good the effects were, or the degree to which they developed his motivations (compared to his previous appearances) but it was solid.   I haven't watched any of the movies a second time yet (except for the first two, just because I watched them so long ago) but this may be the first.

Infinity War is my favorite MCU film.  Endgame is close.  But Infinity War is SO good on so many levels.  Endgame does quite a few things arguably even better, including huge emotional impact.  The only small issue I have (no spoilers--don't worry), which others will likely agree with, is that it...let's just say it pushes the envelope a bit farther in terms of having to suspend belief.  Not a huge issue.  But it goes just far enough that it gets the #2 spot rather than the #1 (and Spiderman: Homecoming is my #3). 

Yeah, it is "a lot."  In many ways.  In terms of plot alone, it does SO MUCH, and has so many characters and so many settings.  And yet, it doesn't really feel rushed or feel like they shortchanged any of the storylines.  Yes, it moves at a breakneck pace.  But that pace serves the story rather than detracting from it.  It feels like it needs to move at a breakneck pace because that is what Thanos would be doing under the circumstances. 

And yeah, Thanos is a great character.  Infinity War really is his movie.  The only character that comes close in terms of character arc in this film alone is Thor.  But everything centers on Thanos.  And to me, it is fascinating that probably the best and most significant feeling relationships in this movie all seem to revolve around Thanos.  The two biggest and perhaps most obvious are Thor's relationship with Thanos and Tony's relationship with Thanos.  Both Thor and Tony are driven because of what Thanos has done and is doing.  But to a lesser extent, that is true of a lot of other characters as well, even those who maybe didn't really even know about Thanos before the events of this film.  Gamorrah, Starlord, Nebula, Drax, Vision, Wanda...  All were driven, to a great extent, either by a direct past relationship with Thanos or by things he did in the past that they discovered him to be behind in this film.  It was really done quite brilliantly.

I was most moved by the Thanos/Gamorrah scene.  And while I didn't cry, it seemed the most...  real.   I have no real belief that Dr. Strange's (my favorite MCU character) fate is final, but maybe Gamorrah's is, so it felt more emotional.  Don't tell me, but I'm still struggling with her asking Quill for a "favor", based on something SHE knew and Thanos didn't.  I'm not sure I've sussed all that out yet.

Gamora was a real stand-out for me in IW, just as much as Thanos was. Their scenes were some of the most engaging in the film, both at Nowhere (RIP Collector) and at Vormir. And speaking of Vormir, what did you think of the return of the Red Skull? Sadly, he wasn't portrayed by Hugo Weaving, but Ross Marquand did a great job bringing the character back into the MCU. I hope he pops up again, maybe in a future Cap movie!

Given how un-busy my summer is going to be this year, I've planned out a massive MCU re-watch starting in late June, to coincide with the release of Black Widow. Assuming the film has Thursday night preview showings on July 8th, here's what my schedule will be for the MCU re-watch, featuring just the films at the Disney+ shows:

6/24 - Iron Man
6/25 - The Incredible Hulk
6/26 - Iron Man 2
6/27 - Thor
6/28 - Captain America: The First Avenger
6/29 - Avengers
6/30 - Iron Man 3
7/1 - Thor: The Dark World
7/2 - Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 1
7/3 - Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 4
7/4 - Captain America: The Winter Soldier (Happy Independence Day!!!)
7/5 - Avengers: Age Of Ultron
7/6 - Ant-Man
7/7 - Captain America: Civil War
7/8 - Black Widow
7/9 - Black Panther
7/10 - Spider-Man: Homecoming
7/11 - Doctor Strange
7/12 - Thor: Ragnarok
7/13 - Avengers: Infinity War
7/14 - And-Man & The Wasp
7/15 - Captain Marvel
7/16 - Avengers: Endgame
7/17 - WandaVision (Episodes 1-5)
7/18 - WandaVision (Episodes 6-9)
7/19 - The Falcon And The Winter Soldier (Episodes 1-3)
7/20 - The Falcon And The Winter Soldier (Episodes 4-6)
7/21 - Spider-Man: Far From Home

And depending on the timeline of the show (which might be irrelevant), Loki might come before WandaVision, or after Spider-Man: FFH. Either way, it'll get a re-watch later this summer, definitely before What If...? starts airing, which is supposedly in August at some point.

It's been a couple of years since I've watched most of these films, back when I rewatched them all after Endgame came out, but before/during the release of Far From Home. I think I timed my rewatch schedule around the BD release of Endgame (which would've been around August 2019 I think). Of course, if I happened to have work or am busy otherwise, all dates are subject to change and shuffling, though I do want to try and catch up to Civil War by July 7th so I can be fresh for Black Widow that weekend. And if I am up for it, I'll be sure to post my thoughts on these films as I revisit them!

-Marc.

Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 4?!? I think I missed Vol 2 and 3, are those any good?  :rollin

Oops! A typo.... I meant Vol. 2!!!

-Marc.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on May 26, 2021, 04:25:18 PM
My girlfriend and I are still doing our huge rewatch. All re-watch for me, some of them are a first for her, and the ones she's seen, she doesn't remember too well, so it's been a lot of fun. She also has no comics knowledge and didn't see a ton of stuff on the internet. So I get to see her watch movies without knowing what's happening (with exceptions). Last movie we did was Dr. Strange which followed Black Panther. This weekend we'll do Thor Ragnorok and then I guess a week later get to Ant-Man and the Wasp. I'll try to get her to agree to Infinity War (which she has seen but mostly forgot and had virtually no context when she saw it the first time) and Endgame in the same weekend. Should be fun!

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on May 26, 2021, 04:54:04 PM
You're going to watch Ant Man and Wasp before Infinity War?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on May 26, 2021, 04:56:32 PM
You're going to watch Ant Man and Wasp before Infinity War?


Yup! Other than the post credit scene, it largely takes place before or during. It just feels weird. Narratively to show half the planet dusting and then do a whole movie before that happens. But I rearranged some of the post credits scenes to make more sense too. So after infinity war, weíll watch the AntMan dusting scene followed by Captain Marvelís post credit scene. Makes more sense that way.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on May 26, 2021, 04:59:27 PM
Oh...  Well then...  Go forth with my blessing.

I never stopped to think about it in these terms, but that post-credit scene is perhaps the event with the single biggest impact on the MCU that is in a post-credit scene rather than a film proper.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: lonestar on May 26, 2021, 09:05:15 PM
Oh...  Well then...  Go forth with my blessing.

I never stopped to think about it in these terms, but that post-credit scene is perhaps the event with the single biggest impact on the MCU that is in a post-credit scene rather than a film proper.

Yup, either that or Thanos grabbed the gauntlet and saying 'Fine, I'll do it myself..'
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on May 27, 2021, 04:53:43 AM
Oh...  Well then...  Go forth with my blessing.

I never stopped to think about it in these terms, but that post-credit scene is perhaps the event with the single biggest impact on the MCU that is in a post-credit scene rather than a film proper.

Yup, either that or Thanos grabbed the gauntlet and saying 'Fine, I'll do it myself..'

Except they retconned that given he didnít use the REAL gauntlet.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on May 27, 2021, 06:02:01 AM
Oh...  Well then...  Go forth with my blessing.

I never stopped to think about it in these terms, but that post-credit scene is perhaps the event with the single biggest impact on the MCU that is in a post-credit scene rather than a film proper.

Yup, either that or Thanos grabbed the gauntlet and saying 'Fine, I'll do it myself..'

Except they retconned that given he didnít use the REAL gauntlet.

Wait, what?  (Bearing in mind I am post-Infinity War and pre-Ant Man and Wasp and pre-Endgame)

I'm going to re-watch Infinity War with the wife, then we're going to bang out AM&W and Endgame with my daughter.  Try to do all that this weekend, maybe.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on May 27, 2021, 06:38:46 AM
Oh...  Well then...  Go forth with my blessing.

I never stopped to think about it in these terms, but that post-credit scene is perhaps the event with the single biggest impact on the MCU that is in a post-credit scene rather than a film proper.

Yup, either that or Thanos grabbed the gauntlet and saying 'Fine, I'll do it myself..'

Except they retconned that given he didnít use the REAL gauntlet.

What? I donít think so. I think they said the one Odin had was fake.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: jingle.boy on May 27, 2021, 06:57:31 AM
Oh...  Well then...  Go forth with my blessing.

I never stopped to think about it in these terms, but that post-credit scene is perhaps the event with the single biggest impact on the MCU that is in a post-credit scene rather than a film proper.

Yup, either that or Thanos grabbed the gauntlet and saying 'Fine, I'll do it myself..'

Except they retconned that given he didnít use the REAL gauntlet.

Wait, what?  (Bearing in mind I am post-Infinity War and pre-Ant Man and Wasp and pre-Endgame)

I'm going to re-watch Infinity War with the wife, then we're going to bang out AM&W and Endgame with my daughter.  Try to do all that this weekend, maybe.

The gauntlet he used in IW was forged by Eitri.  My assumption then is that THAT gauntlet is not THE real one. Whether the one in Odinís vault is THE real one or not, it wasnít the one he used for The Snap.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Vmadera00 on May 27, 2021, 07:38:24 AM
I could be wrong, but the "Fine, I'll do it myself" scene is supposed to happened right before he goes to Xandar to get the Power Stone.

The fake gauntlet we see in Ragnarok was supposed to be from Odin's earlier days as as conqueror, which is why Hela knows it is fake. But the design was there, and it's why Thanos went to Nidavellir to get one made for him (real one).

Maybe I'm just reading to much into it, but that's how I saw it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: lonestar on May 27, 2021, 07:42:24 AM
Also, the most I get from that scene was the decision by Thanos to cut out the middlemen and get personally involved.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on May 27, 2021, 08:19:28 AM
I could be wrong, but the "Fine, I'll do it myself" scene is supposed to happened right before he goes to Xandar to get the Power Stone.

The fake gauntlet we see in Ragnarok was supposed to be from Odin's earlier days as as conqueror, which is why Hela knows it is fake. But the design was there, and it's why Thanos went to Nidavellir to get one made for him (real one).

Maybe I'm just reading to much into it, but that's how I saw it.

Again, I say "wait, what?"   Should I know this at this point?   Have I missed something if I don't even know there are two gauntlets out there? 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: faizoff on May 27, 2021, 08:24:44 AM
I could be wrong, but the "Fine, I'll do it myself" scene is supposed to happened right before he goes to Xandar to get the Power Stone.

The fake gauntlet we see in Ragnarok was supposed to be from Odin's earlier days as as conqueror, which is why Hela knows it is fake. But the design was there, and it's why Thanos went to Nidavellir to get one made for him (real one).

Maybe I'm just reading to much into it, but that's how I saw it.

Again, I say "wait, what?"   Should I know this at this point?   Have I missed something if I don't even know there are two gauntlets out there? 

The scene in Ragnarok where Hela knocks down the Infinity Gauntlet as fake, closes a plot point many hardcore fans saw or perceived as a loophole. In the first Thor movie, there is a tiny glimpse (literally a couple of frames) of the Infinity Gauntlet that got everyone very excited as the place where it was being stored.

In the 2nd Avengers movie, there was the post credit scene where they show Thanos grabbing the Infinity Gauntlet saying "Fine I'll do it myself". This brought about the conversation if Thanos had it all along, what was that in the 1st Thor movie. So while minor and inconsequential to 95% of MCU movie watchers, that scene in Ragnarok closes out that loophole.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on May 27, 2021, 08:28:18 AM
I could be wrong, but the "Fine, I'll do it myself" scene is supposed to happened right before he goes to Xandar to get the Power Stone.

The fake gauntlet we see in Ragnarok was supposed to be from Odin's earlier days as as conqueror, which is why Hela knows it is fake. But the design was there, and it's why Thanos went to Nidavellir to get one made for him (real one).

Maybe I'm just reading to much into it, but that's how I saw it.

Again, I say "wait, what?"   Should I know this at this point?   Have I missed something if I don't even know there are two gauntlets out there? 
I could be wrong, but the "Fine, I'll do it myself" scene is supposed to happened right before he goes to Xandar to get the Power Stone.

The fake gauntlet we see in Ragnarok was supposed to be from Odin's earlier days as as conqueror, which is why Hela knows it is fake. But the design was there, and it's why Thanos went to Nidavellir to get one made for him (real one).

Maybe I'm just reading to much into it, but that's how I saw it.

Again, I say "wait, what?"   Should I know this at this point?   Have I missed something if I don't even know there are two gauntlets out there? 

The scene in Ragnarok where Hela knocks down the Infinity Gauntlet as fake, closes a plot point many hardcore fans saw or perceived as a loophole. In the first Thor movie, there is a tiny glimpse (literally a couple of frames) of the Infinity Gauntlet that got everyone very excited as the place where it was being stored.

In the 2nd Avengers movie, there was the post credit scene where they show Thanos grabbing the Infinity Gauntlet saying "Fine I'll do it myself". This brought about the conversation if Thanos had it all along, what was that in the 1st Thor movie. So while minor and inconsequential to 95% of MCU movie watchers, that scene in Ragnarok closes out that loophole.

Exactly.

Stadler, you are fine.  Everything that is being said comes from stuff you have already seen.  No idea what Chad is talking about, but he is mistaken.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Vmadera00 on May 27, 2021, 08:34:13 AM
I could be wrong, but the "Fine, I'll do it myself" scene is supposed to happened right before he goes to Xandar to get the Power Stone.

The fake gauntlet we see in Ragnarok was supposed to be from Odin's earlier days as as conqueror, which is why Hela knows it is fake. But the design was there, and it's why Thanos went to Nidavellir to get one made for him (real one).

Maybe I'm just reading to much into it, but that's how I saw it.

Again, I say "wait, what?"   Should I know this at this point?   Have I missed something if I don't even know there are two gauntlets out there?

Yes, you've seen these scenes (if you saw the mid-credit scene from Age of Ultron). Here is the Thanos one I mentioned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d8VTAbotXY

Here is the one from Ragnarok, at 43 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGnIiA7oJvg

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on May 27, 2021, 09:00:04 AM
I could be wrong, but the "Fine, I'll do it myself" scene is supposed to happened right before he goes to Xandar to get the Power Stone.

The fake gauntlet we see in Ragnarok was supposed to be from Odin's earlier days as as conqueror, which is why Hela knows it is fake. But the design was there, and it's why Thanos went to Nidavellir to get one made for him (real one).

Maybe I'm just reading to much into it, but that's how I saw it.

Again, I say "wait, what?"   Should I know this at this point?   Have I missed something if I don't even know there are two gauntlets out there?

No. Literally none of it is important at all.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Stadler on May 27, 2021, 09:17:02 AM
Okay, so I saw all of those and didn't put it together.  But I understand it now.

And in keeping with our previous discussion, I find Hela to be, well, hella sexy in that clip where she pushes over the gauntlet and says "fake!".

EDIT: ANNNNDDDDD...... I stumbled on this (https://youtu.be/jPNhqWTFrZk).   I don't know or care if it's true or not, but it certainly offers a perspective and some clarity as to what we've seen before.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: bosk1 on May 27, 2021, 09:55:15 AM
Going back to the Age of Ultron post-credit scene, I actually thought it was pretty pointless.  At that stage, we already know there are infinity stones.  And we already know Thanos is out there.  Those with a minimal knowledge of Marvel comics history or those who have an Internet connection already knew some version of infinity war was going to be happening.  For those that knew, that scene added nothing.  And for those that didn't know, I don't think it added anything that would have made any sense.  Add to that the fact that, visually, that scene looked off.  So, it has always kinda bothered me.  There are some post-credit (or mid-credit) scenes that advance the overall MCU plot and usually come across as big reveals/teasers.  Others are just silly and fun (dancing baby Groot, for example), which is fine.  The Thanos/gauntlet one fits into the former category, but never felt like it was executed properly to me. 

EDIT:  Stadler, that theory has been floating around for awhile (note the date of that video).  I can't remember whether I've seen that specific video, but I've seen the theory.  We may have even discussed it in this thread (can't remember).  Ultimately, it doesn't really impact anything in any of the films, whether true or not.  But it's an interesting and fun theory that actually makes a lot of sense.  If forced to say whether I think there is any truth to it or not, I would guess that maybe he tried, but didn't succeed in finding them all, and possibly came to the conclusion part way through the quest that it was not a good idea, and that they should actually be kept separate, hence Volstagg and the others taking the reality stone to the collector at the end of The Dark World.  But who knows?
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 27, 2021, 10:25:31 AM
Also, the most I get from that scene was the decision by Thanos to cut out the middlemen and get personally involved.

Ultimately, thatís what it ended up being. But at the time, it certainly implied that he had or was breaking in to Odinís vault to steal the Gauntlet. Helaís ďfakeĒ comment was a brilliant way to fix what was about to come - that Thanos needed a new/different Gauntlet. Without that one comment from Hell, there would have been no sense in the whole issue of Eitri making him a gauntlet.

THAT is what I was talking about - maybe it wasnít an actual ďretconĒ of the AOU mid credits scene, but kinda.  The three scenes create some manner of inconsistency in terms of timing, and purpose.

Just stumbled on this as an explanation, which I hadnít heard before - https://youtu.be/JdOwY4k33IM
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Post by: bosk1 on May 27, 2021, 10:29:48 AM
But at the time, it certainly implied that he had or was breaking in to Odinís vault to steal the Gauntlet.

???  No it doesn't.  The whole issue people had with that scene is that it pretty clearly is NOT Odin's vault.  It is a different gauntlet and different location altogether.
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Post by: Stadler on May 27, 2021, 10:37:10 AM
But at the time, it certainly implied that he had or was breaking in to Odinís vault to steal the Gauntlet.

???  No it doesn't.  The whole issue people had with that scene is that it pretty clearly is NOT Odin's vault.  It is a different gauntlet and different location altogether.

And if I'm following you, in both the first Thor movie and in Ragnarok, the gauntlet was standing up; in the mid-credits scene wasn't it lying on a sort of cradle in a nook?  That's what it looked like to me.
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 27, 2021, 10:42:21 AM
But at the time, it certainly implied that he had or was breaking in to Odinís vault to steal the Gauntlet.

???  No it doesn't.  The whole issue people had with that scene is that it pretty clearly is NOT Odin's vault.  It is a different gauntlet and different location altogether.

Hence the word he HAD (ie, prior to the events of that scene) ... I donít recall it was an insinuation/implication it was a 2nd Gauntlet.
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Post by: bosk1 on May 27, 2021, 11:20:17 AM
But at the time, it certainly implied that he had or was breaking in to Odinís vault to steal the Gauntlet.

???  No it doesn't.  The whole issue people had with that scene is that it pretty clearly is NOT Odin's vault.  It is a different gauntlet and different location altogether.

Hence the word he HAD (ie, prior to the events of that scene) ... I donít recall it was an insinuation/implication it was a 2nd Gauntlet.

You mean, other than the fact that it looked completely different and was in a completely different location

People were pointing this out right after Ultron premiered, and Feige himself confirmed way back in 2015 that they were two different gauntlets. 
https://www.cinemablend.com/new/Big-Secret-Behind-Infinity-Gauntlet-According-Marvel-Kevin-Feige-71192.html
https://www.slashfilm.com/mcu-infinity-gauntlets-thanos/ 
Again, there was zero implication that what Thanos had came from Odin's vault. 
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Post by: jingle.boy on May 27, 2021, 11:56:13 AM
Okey dokey then. I never knew any of that, or am completely misremembering. Itís not like we ever got anything other than a very grainy still image from Thor 1, so Iím unclear how everyone was supposed to know that they ďlooked completely differentĒ.

I still think there are flaws in the way they represented three different gauntlets, but whatever.  Iím gonna tap out now.
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Post by: The Letter M on May 27, 2021, 12:13:17 PM
I think the biggest tell that there was a fake gauntlet was that the one in Odin's vault was right-handed, whereas in the comics, and the films, Thanos' gauntlet was left-handed. I think the producers of Thor just threw in the "fake" gauntlet as an easter egg (as are most of the things in Odin's vault, which will likely never be revisited).

As for Thanos' credits scene in AOU, I think it was included for two reasons - to remind fans of who Thanos is (if they've only seen the first Avengers and/or perhaps haven't seen GOTG Vol. 1), and what his deal is with regards to collecting the Infinity Stones; and to bring back the off-shot side-quest that Thor went on, now that Thor was aware of the Infinity Stones' appearances in the MCU, his fate would then be further tied to Thanos and his quest to get them all.

As for the timing - I've heard that the AOU credits scene was retconned to take place not long before Infinity War, probably in the 2016/2017 time frame. Thanos would have already commissioned Eitri to craft the gauntlet for him, but left it in storage until he had a plan put together to start gathering the stones. One theory says that he didn't start his quest until he had learned of the death of Odin (at the beginning of Ragnarok), mostly because by that point, the Nine Realms would becoming unguarded, and so there'd be no protection from the Asgardians (who had the Tesseract, and knew where the Aether was being kept). At that point, all Thanos had to do was brute force his way past Xandar's Nova Corps and retrieve the Power Stone.

Of course, there's the real world explanation that these things just change over time because of different directors, producers, and changes in design. The gauntlet seen at the end of AOU was a bit different than the one we see in Infinity War, which are both different than the one seen in Thor/Ragnarok (which was proven fake anyway), but it's nice that some things can be explained away with retcons.

-Marc.
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Post by: Stadler on May 27, 2021, 01:14:07 PM
(as are most of the things in Odin's vault, which will likely never be revisited).


Which of course is the oldest con in the book.  Hide in plain site!   Wasn't that used in National Treasure as well?
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Post by: Zook on May 28, 2021, 12:42:19 AM
I was watching Civil War, a movie I've seen several times, and I only just now noticed that during the final fight, Iron Man was going to shoot Bucky point blank in the face with a rocket.
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Post by: DoctorAction on May 29, 2021, 12:29:37 AM
I just finished my rewatch of Thor 2 that I started weeks ago. Man, that is a dull film that makes no sense (even in the context of fantasy comic book movies). Was pretty to look.

But - the Winter Soldier next, I believe! Woo!
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Post by: Stadler on May 29, 2021, 08:44:16 AM
Not really related to the thread or the movie itself, but I always loved the title "Winter Soldier".  So evocative, and can mean so many things (maybe not in the context of the movie, but generally).
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Post by: DoctorAction on May 31, 2021, 12:40:59 AM
Side note: My absolute favourite comic book writer Ed Brubaker wrote the Winter Soldier arc for Marvel. I've not read that (not a superhero comic guy, in general, but mean to read it some day) but his other work (mainly crime and stuff) for Image Comics is amazing and well with checking out of you're remotely interested in that kind of action.
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Post by: lonestar on May 31, 2021, 09:01:54 PM
I've been piling through the meat and potatoes of the Netflix series again, and I'm reminded again that Vincent D'Onofrio's Fisk is hands down the best MCU villain. For me, it's not even close.
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Post by: jammindude on May 31, 2021, 10:50:19 PM
I've been piling through the meat and potatoes of the Netflix series again, and I'm reminded again that Vincent D'Onofrio's Fisk is hands down the best MCU villain. For me, it's not even close.

I think itís very close, but I put Tennantís Kilgrave just above it.
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Post by: lonestar on June 01, 2021, 07:57:13 AM
While the acting is definitely comparable, I felt they just developed Fisk so much better, there's so much more flesh in the character,hes so brilliantly 3 dimensional.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 01, 2021, 11:34:51 AM
I've been piling through the meat and potatoes of the Netflix series again, and I'm reminded again that Vincent D'Onofrio's Fisk is hands down the best MCU villain. For me, it's not even close.
Well, Loki and Thanos are both close, for me.

But Fisk is incredible.
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Post by: lonestar on June 01, 2021, 03:06:32 PM
I guess I've always been drawn to darker characters. I think the dynamic of Fisk vs Matt/Foggy/Karen was so perfectly grown through the three seasons.
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Post by: The Letter M on June 01, 2021, 04:36:17 PM
I've been piling through the meat and potatoes of the Netflix series again, and I'm reminded again that Vincent D'Onofrio's Fisk is hands down the best MCU villain. For me, it's not even close.
Well, Loki and Thanos are both close, for me.

But Fisk is incredible.

I echo these sentiments as well. Loki is just so good, and part of that comes from the charm of Tom Hiddleston. I think comparing Fisk to any of the film villains is a bit unfair because Fisk had three seasons' worth of time to develop and become the villain he ended up being. There was a lot more time to dive into his past and character and see just what made him tick. But if you compared him to the other Netflix Marvel shows, he's definitely the best villain out of them all, with Kilgrave being second IMO. I honestly don't remember much about the others, except for maybe the ones in Luke Cage, and I honestly don't recall much about Iron Fist.

Speaking of the Netflix characters, what do you all think of the idea that if those characters return in the MCU played by the same actors/actresses, that they won't be the EXACT SAME characters from the shows? I've heard this idea/rumor spread about in recent months now that the rights for them have reverted back to Marvel Studios, and that they may want to bring back some (not all) of the actors to play those characters again (most notably Daredevil, Jessica Jones, and The Punisher), but they wouldn't link or connect to their shows from Netflix? It'd be a sort of multi-verseal type of thing, where they probably could not reference any of those stories, but at least still be played by the same people.

Would it be better just to recast all of them and start fresh with fresh actors? Or keep (some of) the same actors, even if they can't refer to the Netflix shows specifically?

-Marc.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 01, 2021, 06:08:42 PM
Recast.
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Post by: Adami on June 01, 2021, 06:12:21 PM
Recast Iron Fist and keep the rest.

Yes!
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Post by: jammindude on June 01, 2021, 06:29:02 PM
But....he IS the immortal Iron Fist...
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Post by: lonestar on June 01, 2021, 06:30:08 PM
 :lol

One of the best parts of all the Netflix shows was when like shut him down in the middle of that line.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 02, 2021, 10:03:37 AM
It would be better to keep Charlie Cox, Krysten Ritter, and Vincent D'onofrio for sure, if they actually have plans for those characters.
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Post by: lonestar on June 02, 2021, 10:36:40 AM
It would be better to keep Charlie Cox, Krysten Ritter, and Vincent D'onofrio for sure, if they actually have plans for those characters.

Totally agree. It'd be a shame not to have a Tom Holland/D'onofrio match up.
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Post by: bosk1 on June 02, 2021, 05:53:18 PM
By the way, anyone other than me have to look up "Mungo Jerry" after seeing Endgame?
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Post by: soupytwist on June 03, 2021, 09:12:02 AM
I've been piling through the meat and potatoes of the Netflix series again, and I'm reminded again that Vincent D'Onofrio's Fisk is hands down the best MCU villain. For me, it's not even close.

Magneto was the best thing about the X-Men movies - both McKellen and Fassbender were great in the role.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 03, 2021, 09:27:08 AM
By the way, anyone other than me have to look up "Mungo Jerry" after seeing Endgame?
I knew who Mungo Jerry was from some of their music, but I definitely had to look them up in Google Images to get the joke.
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Post by: lonestar on June 03, 2021, 11:46:21 AM
I've been piling through the meat and potatoes of the Netflix series again, and I'm reminded again that Vincent D'Onofrio's Fisk is hands down the best MCU villain. For me, it's not even close.

Magneto was the best thing about the X-Men movies - both McKellen and Fassbender were great in the role.

McKellan is outstanding in everything. One of my greatest career moments was cooking him a grill cheese, with Bleu cheese added, side of tomato soup.
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Post by: Vmadera00 on June 07, 2021, 06:57:55 AM
Loki this Wednesday  :corn

I'm  very intrigued based on what I've seen so far :mehlin
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Post by: lonestar on June 07, 2021, 08:48:03 AM
Very fucking stoked for Loki. :caffeine:

I think this is the one that just might blow the MCU wide open.
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Post by: jingle.boy on June 07, 2021, 09:41:10 AM
Very fucking stoked for Loki. :caffeine:

I think this is the one that just might blow the MCU wide open.

Yup... it seem this could start to introduce the multiverse.  The cameo possibilities and easter eggs are endless.
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Post by: Stadler on June 07, 2021, 10:41:42 AM
I've been piling through the meat and potatoes of the Netflix series again, and I'm reminded again that Vincent D'Onofrio's Fisk is hands down the best MCU villain. For me, it's not even close.

Magneto was the best thing about the X-Men movies - both McKellen and Fassbender were great in the role.

McKellan is outstanding in everything. One of my greatest career moments was cooking him a grill cheese, with Bleu cheese added, side of tomato soup.

I just caught that; that's pretty cool!   That sounds DELICIOUS!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: lonestar on June 07, 2021, 11:17:01 AM
I've been piling through the meat and potatoes of the Netflix series again, and I'm reminded again that Vincent D'Onofrio's Fisk is hands down the best MCU villain. For me, it's not even close.

Magneto was the best thing about the X-Men movies - both McKellen and Fassbender were great in the role.

McKellan is outstanding in everything. One of my greatest career moments was cooking him a grill cheese, with Bleu cheese added, side of tomato soup.

I just caught that; that's pretty cool!   That sounds DELICIOUS!

Yeah, either him or cooking for Steven Hawking are the biggest jewels in my celebrity crown.

Very fucking stoked for Loki. :caffeine:

I think this is the one that just might blow the MCU wide open.

Yup... it seem this could start to introduce the multiverse.  The cameo possibilities and easter eggs are endless.

And I can totally see marvel teasing us relentlessly... Without a safe word in sight.
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Post by: MirrorMask on June 07, 2021, 11:20:39 AM
Late to the party, but I recently saw WandaVision. That was great, original and with the right mix of humour and tension! great job  :tup
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Post by: Stadler on June 07, 2021, 12:02:05 PM
I've been piling through the meat and potatoes of the Netflix series again, and I'm reminded again that Vincent D'Onofrio's Fisk is hands down the best MCU villain. For me, it's not even close.

Magneto was the best thing about the X-Men movies - both McKellen and Fassbender were great in the role.

Did you meet either one of them, or was it a case of they were simply in your "restaurant/kitchen/whatever you call it"?  Sorry for the questions, I'm just fascinated by stories like this.

Ever give any thought to being a personal chef? 

McKellan is outstanding in everything. One of my greatest career moments was cooking him a grill cheese, with Bleu cheese added, side of tomato soup.

I just caught that; that's pretty cool!   That sounds DELICIOUS!
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Post by: lonestar on June 07, 2021, 02:29:36 PM
McKellan just ate there, but I creepily stared at him throughout his lunch.


Hawking was the only time I broke the non contact rule and thanked him for his work. He said you're welcome, I spoke mostly to his team. I have seen him lecture twice at Berkeley so it was definitely a fan boy moment. I also definitely could've gotten fired for it.

Hawking had chicken broth with very small diced and severely overcooked vegetables.

Being a personal chef never appealed to me, I talked with the guy that was Soros' personal chef, and basically you're sacrificing any semblance of a life and are on call 24/7. Supposedly the money is really good though, I recently saw an ad for one from indeed that started at 120k.
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Post by: Stadler on June 07, 2021, 02:37:54 PM
I guess it depends who it's for, though.   If they travel a lot, I guess you have to travel.  If they are homebodies, I suppose it could be worse.
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Post by: lonestar on June 08, 2021, 06:57:23 AM
I guess it depends who it's for, though.   If they travel a lot, I guess you have to travel.  If they are homebodies, I suppose it could be worse.

Yeah, either way you're committed to the 24/7 lifestyle, probably less of a life than a hotel or restaurant chef. I'm pretty happy with my m-f, 6-3 schedule, and having all holidays off is really fucking cool.
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Post by: ariich on June 08, 2021, 11:42:29 PM
Just a quick reminder to everyone to keep Loki spoilers in the Loki thread for now, particularly while the show is airing!
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Post by: MirrorMask on June 13, 2021, 01:59:48 PM
I started watching The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

Help me out with a detail - what "officially" happened with Steve Rogers? I've seen Endgame, I know he went back in time and stayed in the past and lived out his life with Peggy, showing up as an old man to hand down the shield to the Falcon. But what does the public know? what's the official position? is he considered dead? do people assume he disappeared or that something happend to him in the final battle against Thanos?
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Post by: Adami on June 13, 2021, 02:07:07 PM
I started watching The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

Help me out with a detail - what "officially" happened with Steve Rogers? I've seen Endgame, I know he went back in time and stayed in the past and lived out his life with Peggy, showing up as an old man to hand down the shield to the Falcon. But what does the public know? what's the official position? is he considered dead? do people assume he disappeared or that something happend to him in the final battle against Thanos?

Theyíve kept it intentionally vague. I think the public has theories but it hasnít been stated for sure.
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Post by: faizoff on June 13, 2021, 03:37:05 PM
I can't remember but in the 1st episode of TFATWS don't they have a passing line addressing the passing of Steve Rodgers? I could be misremembering.
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Post by: Vmadera00 on June 13, 2021, 04:23:51 PM
I can't remember but in the 1st episode of TFATWS don't they have a passing line addressing the passing of Steve Rodgers? I could be misremembering.

They also mentioned of him being "on the moon"
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on June 13, 2021, 06:38:00 PM
I can't remember but in the 1st episode of TFATWS don't they have a passing line addressing the passing of Steve Rodgers? I could be misremembering.

They just say ďheís goneĒ and the sorts a lot. They had an ďin memoriamĒ for him in Spider-Man but it was again vague. They probably donít hide any plans for him but are keeping it open just in case.
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Post by: The Letter M on June 13, 2021, 09:19:19 PM
I'm sure they purposely left Steve Rogers' whereabouts post-Endgame intentionally vague just so they have the possibility to bring him back later. Remember, Banner made a time machine that pushed time through people, so there's always the chance that he could do that to Steve and make him young again. Or perhaps if Chris Evans returns to the role, his next appearance could be from his life with Peggy, or from an alternate timeline/future/past.

Either way, it's a loose end that, hopefully, will get tied up some how in a nice neat bow, but I won't hold my breath. The MCU can be pretty good about its continuity, but there are always a few loose ends that are never address again. I'm still amazed at the fact that over a decade later, we will finally revisit Emil Blonsky/Abomination in the upcoming She-Hulk series (even though I would have rather seen The Leader finally make his big-headed appearance in the MCU).

-Marc.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 14, 2021, 10:28:14 AM
Steve Rogers is totally on the moon.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on June 14, 2021, 10:29:22 AM
Steve Rogers is totally on the moon.

Until recently, Nick Fury was on the moon.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 14, 2021, 10:29:51 AM
Steve Rogers is totally on the moon.

Until recently, Nick Fury was on the moon.
Coincidence?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Adami on June 14, 2021, 10:33:28 AM
Steve Rogers is totally on the moon.

Until recently, Nick Fury was on the moon.
Coincidence?

I think not!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: soupytwist on June 18, 2021, 03:30:38 AM
First impressions appearing online for Black Widow - seems very positive so far.  Lots of praise for Pugh and Harbour.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe thread v3 (no recent spoilers)
Post by: Zook on June 18, 2021, 04:00:05 PM
First impressions appearing online for Black Widow - seems very positive so far.  Lots of praise for Pugh and Harbour.

First impressions are usually always positive because they're paid off. I don't think I've ever been truly disappointed by a Marvel movie. They've all been enjoyable, some way more than others.