Post your controversial music opinions v. I couldn't find the previous one

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Kotowboy

Quote from: Sacul on September 16, 2016, 09:27:37 AM
A Moon Shaped Pool is Radiohead's best album since OK Computer.

I'll check it out but In Rainbows didn't do it for me and I didn't bother with King Of Limbs as I heard even Radiohead fans didn't like it.

Stadler

Quote from: Sacul on September 16, 2016, 09:27:37 AM
A Moon Shaped Pool is Radiohead's best album since OK Computer.

"Mom, this is the best liver and artichokes you've made since I was in high school!"

Kotowboy

Ziltoid The Omniscient is my favourite Devin Townsend album.

Z2 was poor by comparison imo.

twosuitsluke

Quote from: Kotowboy on September 16, 2016, 10:17:03 AM
Ziltoid The Omniscient is my favourite Devin Townsend album.

Z2 was poor by comparison imo.

I think Devin has a big potential to split opinion more than most as his music is so diverse. I don't hate any of his albums but some are just perfect for me whilst others are..........less so.

As I mentioned in the Dev thread I think I prefer the Live at The Royal Albert Hall version of Z2 to the studio. It's so good. I love ZTO but I just love most of Dev's albums more.

But anyone who DOESN'T like Dev, they are being too controversial!!
Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2023, 12:38:53 PMJust popping in to say Luke, you were right.
Quote from: ariich09/07/2023, 14:25:10
luke: Pokemon – Pokemon Theme That was the best! I like Pokemon and I liked the characters. I think there was all of them. It was cool. [Have you heard that song before?] No! Score: 10 trillion

Kotowboy


King Postwhore

"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Art

I like some of his stuff, but i find the ziltoid records too silly to listen.

Stadler

Quote from: twosuitsluke on September 16, 2016, 10:35:31 AM


But anyone who DOESN'T like Dev, they are being too controversial!!

I like HIM, on principle, because I like his approach, his flexibility, and his talent, but honestly there is very little of his music that I have heard that makes me say "Whoa, I want to hear this again and again!".

Zantera

I liked the more serious side of Devin back when he made really great albums like Ocean Machine and Terria, but after albums like Ziltoid and Deconstruction, whenever I think of Devy I think of fart sounds, quirky "haha this is so funny" lyrics and almost making a joke parody of how silly prog metal can be.

Adami

Quote from: Zantera on September 16, 2016, 11:45:32 AM
I liked the more serious side of Devin back when he made really great albums like Ocean Machine and Terria, but after albums like Ziltoid and Deconstruction, whenever I think of Devy I think of fart sounds, quirky "haha this is so funny" lyrics and almost making a joke parody of how silly prog metal can be.
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True, there should be a distinction between Dev using humor as a means of getting across an actually interesting message of self reflection and introspection, vs. humor for sake of being silly. I would lump both Ziltoid and Deconstruction (mostly just the song and TMM) in the former, and Z2 in the latter.
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The King in Crimson

Quote from: Stadler on September 16, 2016, 09:42:44 AM
Quote from: Sacul on September 16, 2016, 09:27:37 AM
A Moon Shaped Pool is Radiohead's best album since OK Computer.

"Mom, this is the best liver and artichokes you've made since I was in high school!"
Artichokes are awesome.
[/controversial opinion]

Sacul

Quote from: Stadler on September 16, 2016, 09:42:44 AM
Quote from: Sacul on September 16, 2016, 09:27:37 AM
A Moon Shaped Pool is Radiohead's best album since OK Computer.

"Mom, this is the best liver and artichokes you've made since I was in high school!"
What's that supposed to mean? :lol

Tomislav95

Quote from: The King in Crimson on September 16, 2016, 12:10:05 PM
Quote from: Stadler on September 16, 2016, 09:42:44 AM
Quote from: Sacul on September 16, 2016, 09:27:37 AM
A Moon Shaped Pool is Radiohead's best album since OK Computer.

"Mom, this is the best liver and artichokes you've made since I was in high school!"
Artichokes are awesome.
[/controversial opinion]
Don't know 'bout artichokes but I like liver :tup

Zantera

A Moon Shaped Pool is definitely better than the albums pre-Kid A but doesn't quite live up to the Kid A/Amnesiac/In Rainbows level, but it's close.

Kotowboy

Quote from: Zantera on September 16, 2016, 12:51:38 PM
A Moon Shaped Pool is definitely better than the albums pre-Kid A but doesn't quite live up to the Kid A/Amnesiac/In Rainbows level, but it's close.

It's not as good as Amnesiac ?

I'm out. :neverusethis:

twosuitsluke

I like Dev because he pokes fun at all the bullshit that surrounds us in every aspect of modern life.

When he makes "humorous" songs/albums I always take it more as a social commentary than trying to be funny. I see it as all part of his journey breaking free of the restrictions of being perceived as "metal" in his Strapping days.

I love him for that.
Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2023, 12:38:53 PMJust popping in to say Luke, you were right.
Quote from: ariich09/07/2023, 14:25:10
luke: Pokemon – Pokemon Theme That was the best! I like Pokemon and I liked the characters. I think there was all of them. It was cool. [Have you heard that song before?] No! Score: 10 trillion

Art

Quote from: The King in Crimson on September 16, 2016, 12:10:05 PM
Quote from: Stadler on September 16, 2016, 09:42:44 AM
Quote from: Sacul on September 16, 2016, 09:27:37 AM
A Moon Shaped Pool is Radiohead's best album since OK Computer.

"Mom, this is the best liver and artichokes you've made since I was in high school!"
Artichokes are awesome.
[/controversial opinion]

Agreed!

Super Dude


twosuitsluke

Illumination Theory is the second best epic by DT, Octavarium being #1!!
Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2023, 12:38:53 PMJust popping in to say Luke, you were right.
Quote from: ariich09/07/2023, 14:25:10
luke: Pokemon – Pokemon Theme That was the best! I like Pokemon and I liked the characters. I think there was all of them. It was cool. [Have you heard that song before?] No! Score: 10 trillion

Kotowboy

I really don't like Illumination Theory.

But I like it a lot more than A Change Of Seasons.

Octavarium is easily the best though, yeah.

I'd actually put The Count Of Tuscany above both I.T & A.C.O.S

twosuitsluke

Quote from: Kotowboy on September 16, 2016, 02:01:48 PM
I really don't like Illumination Theory.

But I like it a lot more than A Change Of Seasons.

Octavarium is easily the best though, yeah.

I'd actually put The Count Of Tuscany above both I.T & A.C.O.S

Yep, I'm not a huge fan of ACoS. I really like TCoT but I'd rank it lower than IT, but not by much.
Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2023, 12:38:53 PMJust popping in to say Luke, you were right.
Quote from: ariich09/07/2023, 14:25:10
luke: Pokemon – Pokemon Theme That was the best! I like Pokemon and I liked the characters. I think there was all of them. It was cool. [Have you heard that song before?] No! Score: 10 trillion

Kotowboy

I think I.T. is too disjointed - there's too many riffs in too short a time.

twosuitsluke

Quote from: Kotowboy on September 16, 2016, 02:09:32 PM
I think I.T. is too disjointed - there's too many riffs in too short a time.

Maybe but the high points in that song just do it for me big time.
Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2023, 12:38:53 PMJust popping in to say Luke, you were right.
Quote from: ariich09/07/2023, 14:25:10
luke: Pokemon – Pokemon Theme That was the best! I like Pokemon and I liked the characters. I think there was all of them. It was cool. [Have you heard that song before?] No! Score: 10 trillion

Tomislav95

A Change of Seasons used to be my favorite DT song. Not it's not, and it is tied with Octavarium for the best epic. I like them both much more than IT.

Kotowboy


SoundscapeMN

A CHANGE OF SEASONS:

The "Please Don't Go" original demo is much better musically/composition-wise (including LaBrie's screeching highest of high falsettos) than the re-arranged/re-recorded version that came out on the 1995 EP.
"I have facility enough that I can throw down something, and play it, and play it correctly, and play it in time, but that doesn't make good records.  What makes good records for me, is when you capture a performance or you get some feeling that you get on tape and that you know you can't plan for it" -Kevin Gilbert

Crow

I legit can't remember what IT sounds like outside of the strings bit and I only remember that because it's half plagiarized :V

Kotowboy

Quote from: Parama on September 16, 2016, 03:29:24 PM
I legit can't remember what IT sounds like outside of the strings bit and I only remember that because it's half plagiarized :V

Floor tom roll intro into not quite Six Degrees main theme. Then a succession of guitar pull off - hammer on riffs in that sacrificed sons vein.


TheCountOfNYC

Quote from: Kotowboy on September 16, 2016, 02:01:48 PM
I really don't like Illumination Theory.

But I like it a lot more than A Change Of Seasons.

Octavarium is easily the best though, yeah.

I'd actually put The Count Of Tuscany above both I.T & A.C.O.S

1: 8VM (my favorite song of all time)
2: TCoT
3: ACoS
4: SDoIT
5: IT
6: ItPoE

Kotowboy

Quote from: TheCountOfNYC on September 16, 2016, 04:15:08 PM
Quote from: Kotowboy on September 16, 2016, 02:01:48 PM
I really don't like Illumination Theory.

But I like it a lot more than A Change Of Seasons.

Octavarium is easily the best though, yeah.

I'd actually put The Count Of Tuscany above both I.T & A.C.O.S

1: 8VM (my favorite song of all time)
2: TCoT
3: ACoS
4: SDoIT
5: IT
6: ItPoE

1. Octavarium. My favourite DT song and Album.
2. Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
3. In The Name Of God
4. The Count Of Tuscany
5. In The Presence of Enemies
6. Illumination Theory
7.A Change Of Seasons


PuffyPat


Crow



Train of Naught

I guess at this point this is probably a controversial opinion:

Haken's Affinity is not in my top 15 albums of the year anymore.

Adami

Not sure how controversial this is, but I consider Death Magnetic to be Metallica's 2nd worst album.

And after watching the really entertaining 2 hour making of docu, where it's clear that just about every aspect of every song was decided by committee, it helped solidify my opinion that it's soulless and completely uninspired.
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