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« on: January 19, 2012, 03:48:25 PM »
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Re: US Justice Dep. Takes Down Megaupload, Anonymous Takes Down US Justice Dep.
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 03:49:38 PM »
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Re: US Justice Dep. Takes Down Megaupload, Anonymous Takes Down US Justice Dep.
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 03:54:18 PM »
Wow, just wow. Megaupload was probably the filesharing site that recognized and deleted pirated material faster than any other. And now the owner is being trialed for piracy. That's unfair.
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Re: US Justice Dep. Takes Down Megaupload, Anonymous Takes Down US Justice Dep.
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 04:00:34 PM »
Quote from: Nekov on January 19, 2012, 03:54:18 PM
Wow, just wow. Megaupload was probably the filesharing site that recognized and deleted pirated material faster than any other. And now the owner is being trialed for piracy. That's unfair.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 04:39:12 PM »
Pretty dumb on their part.  They've been largely left alone, but targeting the U.S. government's websites is going to up the ante significantly in terms of what they are allowed to do.
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Re: US Justice Dep. Takes Down Megaupload, Anonymous Takes Down US Justice Dep.
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 04:48:30 PM »
Quote from: Dark Castle on January 19, 2012, 04:00:34 PM
Quote from: Nekov on January 19, 2012, 03:54:18 PM
Wow, just wow. Megaupload was probably the filesharing site that recognized and deleted pirated material faster than any other. And now the owner is being trialed for piracy. That's unfair.

Quote from: bosk1 on January 19, 2012, 04:39:12 PM
Pretty dumb on their part.  They've been largely left alone, but targeting the U.S. government's websites is going to up the ante significantly in terms of what they are allowed to do.

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Re: US Justice Dep. Takes Down Megaupload, Anonymous Takes Down US Justice Dep.
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2012, 04:52:40 PM »
Yes, I missed that first point, but I agree.
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Re: US Justice Dep. Takes Down Megaupload, Anonymous Takes Down US Justice Dep.
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2012, 04:54:05 PM »
NO GUYS THEY TOOK DOWN THAT WEBSITE WE WON THE WAR AGAINST THE BAD GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!1
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Re: US Justice Dep. Takes Down Megaupload, Anonymous Takes Down US Justice Dep.
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2012, 04:56:50 PM »
Well, I'll just say Megaupload had it coming. No website is impervious. YouTube always has loads of copyrighted material on it. There's always a work around. Criminals are usually one step ahead.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2012, 04:58:27 PM »
C'mon Marc, don't be silly. No one is claiming this as any sort of great victory or anything like that. I just think it's really, really funny and ironic. And I'm glad someone is standing up against this, no matter how immature and ineffective you think it is.

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Re: US Justice Dep. Takes Down Megaupload, Anonymous Takes Down US Justice Dep.
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 04:59:36 PM »
To be honest, I'm with Marc on this.

I always thought Anonymous taking down sites owned by people they don't like was kind of stupid.
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Re: US Justice Dep. Takes Down Megaupload, Anonymous Takes Down US Justice Dep.
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2012, 05:00:34 PM »
Quote from: Gadough on January 19, 2012, 04:58:27 PM
C'mon Marc, don't be silly. No one is claiming this as any sort of great victory or anything like that. I just think it's really, really funny and ironic. And I'm glad someone is standing up against this, no matter how immature and ineffective you think it is.

Whatever.

My objection is that this makes the problem that much worse.  If the government didn't have a valid reason to want to police the internet before, they very much so do now. 
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Re: US Justice Dep. Takes Down Megaupload, Anonymous Takes Down US Justice Dep.
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2012, 05:02:00 PM »
Fair enough. I get that. But hasn't Anonymous done this before? They've taken down government websites before, I think. I doubt this is the first time the government has heard of them.
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2012, 05:02:54 PM »
I think it's a little funny but I think it just comes off as immature and bratty.

I can see both sides, I guess. it's not like petitioning the Feds to stop would be useful at all but what Anon is doing isn't really helping things.
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2012, 05:05:25 PM »
Quote from: antigoon on January 19, 2012, 05:02:54 PM
I think it's a little funny but I think it just comes off as immature and bratty.

I can see both sides, I guess. it's not like petitioning the Feds to stop would be useful at all but what Anon is doing isn't really helping things.

Exactly. The best thing they can do is sign the petitions and send emails and phone calls to their reps/senators.
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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2012, 05:07:07 PM »
Quote from: snapple on January 19, 2012, 04:56:50 PM
Well, I'll just say Megaupload had it coming. No website is impervious. YouTube always has loads of copyrighted material on it. There's always a work around. Criminals are usually one step ahead.
How do they have this coming?  Like Nekov pointed out, they were always fast to take down pirated material...
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Re: US Justice Dep. Takes Down Megaupload, Anonymous Takes Down US Justice Dep.
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2012, 05:08:18 PM »
Quote from: Dark Castle on January 19, 2012, 05:07:07 PM
Quote from: snapple on January 19, 2012, 04:56:50 PM
Well, I'll just say Megaupload had it coming. No website is impervious. YouTube always has loads of copyrighted material on it. There's always a work around. Criminals are usually one step ahead.
How do they have this coming?  Like Nekov pointed out, they were always fast to take down pirated material...

They are more efficient than YouTube when it comes to that.
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Re: US Justice Dep. Takes Down Megaupload, Anonymous Takes Down US Justice Dep.
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2012, 05:09:30 PM »
Quote from: Dark Castle on January 19, 2012, 05:07:07 PM
Quote from: snapple on January 19, 2012, 04:56:50 PM
Well, I'll just say Megaupload had it coming. No website is impervious. YouTube always has loads of copyrighted material on it. There's always a work around. Criminals are usually one step ahead.
How do they have this coming?  Like Nekov pointed out, they were always fast to take down pirated material...

At the risk of not being banned, I'll just say it wasn't nearly as good as you think. Want+will=way.
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Re: US Justice Dep. Takes Down Megaupload, Anonymous Takes Down US Justice Dep.
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2012, 05:10:42 PM »
Quote from: snapple on January 19, 2012, 05:09:30 PM
Quote from: Dark Castle on January 19, 2012, 05:07:07 PM
Quote from: snapple on January 19, 2012, 04:56:50 PM
Well, I'll just say Megaupload had it coming. No website is impervious. YouTube always has loads of copyrighted material on it. There's always a work around. Criminals are usually one step ahead.
How do they have this coming?  Like Nekov pointed out, they were always fast to take down pirated material...

At the risk of not being banned, I'll just say it wasn't nearly as good as you think. Want+will=way.
Do you have an insider that lets you know they don't take stuff down fast?  Because I've tended to notice stuff goes down fast on Mega if it should :L ...
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2012, 05:13:07 PM »
It's back up now.

ARE YOU HAPPY, GORILLE??? YOU WON :'(
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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2012, 05:27:12 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2012, 06:02:37 PM »
I'm kind of curious what was in the indictment.  If they're honoring DMCA requests,  and it seems they were,  then I'm not sure what the problem is.  As I understand it,  they're not the original providers of any content that's on there. 

As for Anonymous,  I lost all respect for those guys when they weren't even able to effectively screw with the Scientologists. 
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2012, 09:10:50 PM »
YAR!

So is it legal to make copies of things I've purchased and upload them to whatever "cloud service" I'm using? And then can I allow friends and family access to my cloud to view\enjoy said copies of said materials.

megaupload....tsk tsk....the original cloud.

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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2012, 09:20:58 PM »
Well done for Anonymous.
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2012, 09:21:43 PM »
This could be an interesting next couple of days.
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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2012, 09:22:33 PM »
Quote from: YtseBitsySpider on January 19, 2012, 09:10:50 PM
YAR!

So is it legal to make copies of things I've purchased and upload them to whatever "cloud service" I'm using? And then can I allow friends and family access to my cloud to view\enjoy said copies of said materials.

megaupload....tsk tsk....the original cloud.

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Re: US Justice Dep. Takes Down Megaupload, Anonymous Takes Down US Justice Dep.
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Re: US Justice Dep. Takes Down Megaupload, Anonymous Takes Down US Justice Dep.
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2012, 10:03:57 AM »
Speaking of which, did they actually hack it or just DDOS it?
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« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2012, 10:33:47 AM »
DDOS, I think.
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« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2012, 11:25:40 AM »
Looks like I'm the only one here who's on Anon's side.

It was none of America's business shutting down a company in a country on the other side of the world when all they had to do to block it was blacklist it in America.

I hope you guys enjoy your future under SOPA/PIPA. I have first hand experience with government-led internet censorship in Turkey, and I can tell you right away it's absolutely depressing not being able to go on YouTube or tons of other sites that generate and propagate culture. There's pretty much nothing differentiating MegaVideo from YouTube, YT is also full of copyrighted material. You're headed for a world where big brother will be breathing down your back all the time. I don't care what happens in America, but I don't like seeing the american government's greasy moneygrabbing hands feel up other countries.
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« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2012, 11:29:52 AM »
Quote from: Metabog on January 20, 2012, 11:25:40 AM
Looks like I'm the only one here who's on Anon's side.

No, I am.
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« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2012, 11:35:51 AM »
Quote from: Metabog on January 20, 2012, 11:25:40 AM
Looks like I'm the only one here who's on Anon's side.

It was none of America's business shutting down a company in a country on the other side of the world when all they had to do to block it was blacklist it in America.

I hope you guys enjoy your future under SOPA/PIPA. I have first hand experience with government-led internet censorship in Turkey, and I can tell you right away it's absolutely depressing not being able to go on YouTube or tons of other sites that generate and propagate culture. There's pretty much nothing differentiating MegaVideo from YouTube, YT is also full of copyrighted material. You're headed for a world where big brother will be breathing down your back all the time. I don't care what happens in America, but I don't like seeing the american government's greasy moneygrabbing hands feel up other countries.
You're confusing supporting Anon and supporting the closure of Megaupload.  It seems most here decry the closure,  but thing that Anon are a bunch of childish nimrods.  Their actions in prostest don't actually accomplish anything,  except maybe give our over-reactive government another reason to want to control our actions. 
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« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2012, 11:37:52 AM »
Big deal, they should hack into the lawmakers personal accounts and really bring them down if they really want to cause some shit. Just bringing down a website who cares.
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« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2012, 11:49:09 AM »
They had one or two servers in the USA. That's the only way they got served, and shut down.
anyone else find it odd that the guy's last name is Dotcom?

this wasn't about shutting down some company over seas....they can't. Ask the Bay. Or any of the gazillion private trackers out there. this wasn't a war, this wasn't even a battle....this was DOJ saying..."hey look at us we're doing something"
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Re: US Justice Dep. Takes Down Megaupload, Anonymous Takes Down US Justice Dep.
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2012, 11:52:04 AM »
Quote from: Metabog on January 20, 2012, 11:25:40 AM
*snip*

Here's the thing: I don't agree with the U.S. government's choices, but I don't agree with Anon's tactics, either - all they've done is add fuel to the fire.  First things first, you'll notice that megaupload.com is still down, so it's not like Anon has accomplished anything.  Second of all, you'll notice that the four biggest sites attacked yesterday - justice.gov, fbi.gov, mpaa.org, and riaa.com - are all back online.  So this massive effort - the biggest single coordinated attack in Anon history - managed to shut them down for - what?  24 hours, max? 

So all they've really done is get some people's attention.

I ask you, is it good attention? 

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Does that send the message that they are defending freedom of speech?  To me it sounds like they are defending piracy.  Which doesn't exactly do a lot of good for their cause, as far as I'm concerned.  It makes them look like 5,000 2-year-olds throwing a temper tantrum because their toy got taken away. 

An interesting article for your consideration: CNET - Anonymous goes nuclear; everybody loses?

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If the SOPA/PIPA protests were the Web's moment of inspiring, non-violent, hand-holding civil disobedience, #OpMegaUpload feels like the unsettling wave of car-burning hooligans that sweep in and incite the riot portion of the play. The result is always riot gear, tear gas, arrests, injury, and a sea of knee-jerk policies, laws, and reactions that address the destructive actions of a few, and not the good intentions of the many.

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But I do know that an attack this big on this many government sites will effectively erase those good Internet vibrations that were rattling around Capitol Hill this week and harden the perspective of legislators and law enforcement who want to believe that the Web community is made up of wild, law-breaking pirates. That, ultimately, may help strengthen the business--and the emotional--case for the pro-SOPA, pro-PIPA lobby. Did the feds just get the last lulz?
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