An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer

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Lowdz

A few weeks ago I would have been excited for any announcement, even this announcement of an announcement, but I find I'm not.
Can't wait to hear the album but I got new drummer fatigue a few weeks ago. I think part of that is because I suspect it's Mangini and I'm not excited by the thought. If the video of the auditions comes true it may be the only chance I get of seeing DT with Thomas Lang and I will stir up some excitment for that.

Is it just me that thinks 3 days to audition 7 drummers doesn't seem a long time to be making such a big decision? 2-3 a day, some playing and some bonding.
At least it hasn't taken as long as choosing a singer. Imagine if the internet had been around then... We found the guy... oh,no we haven't... we found another...err no... we found this chick...

King Postwhore

So in two weeks you've lost interest?  I bet you chat like a teenage girl in love when we find out the drummer and when the album will be released.  I know I will. :lol
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Cool Chris

Quote from: Lowdz on April 19, 2011, 03:41:47 PM
Is it just me that thinks 3 days to audition 7 drummers doesn't seem a long time to be making such a big decision?

I thought that too, but I imagine some band members already knew the candidates personally, and possibly even have worked with them in some capacity in the past.

darkshot

3 days of auditioning, but who knows how long it took them to come to the decision after the fact.  They probably reviewed the videos many times before deciding (unless it was an obvious choice which I doubt)

mittinagus

I think they just want to justify why they chose a drummer that wants to be the fastest in the world and sounds like a drum machine doing it...

I'm more excited for audition videos than for the announcement itself...

Tin

manticore999

I remember back when there was word that George Lucas was going to make the first three movies in the Star Wars saga, to tell how it all began.  Then came more hype, more rumors, more 'speculations' from the fans, more 'secrets exposed' about the upcoming first movie. Finally they announced the movie release date - which was going to be in, like, 10 months or so from the announcement.  Cue more speculation, more secrets more advertising, more teasers, more previews.  Finally .... finally ... opening day came and I didn't give a shit.  I was so tired of hearing about it that I completely lost interest and I've never seen more than the first 30-40 minutes of the first one before I fell asleep and never saw anything else.

All that to say that I'm completely losing interest in this.  I couldn't care less if they released an album at this point.


Plasmastrike


blackngold29

But dude, Episode I was fantastic. You really missed out. :neverusethis:

Jamesman42

That's why I don't keep looking at the pot to see when the water will finally boil. I go on until it's ready. Such a waste of time, energy, and excitement when you do that with this kind of stuff.

ricky

Quote from: Jamesman on April 19, 2011, 07:11:31 PM
That's why I don't keep looking at the pot to see when the water will finally boil. I go on until it's ready. Such a waste of time, energy, and excitement when you do that with this kind of stuff.

Quote from: Jamesman on April 19, 2011, 07:11:31 PM
That's why I don't keep looking at the pot to see when the water will finally boil. I go on until it's ready. Such a waste of time, energy, and excitement when you do that with this kind of stuff.

+1

I can't help but feel DT know that we don't really care anymore, yet this is their way of trying to gain more interest. Granted, I know whoever they picked will do well, but still.

I think they succeeded in renewing interest. I said I didn't care anymore, yet now I do.


edit - too lazy to fix broken quote, you guys know me by now.

Aniland

It's the monumental fault of somebody that this information was not given to us sooner. Label people can be idiots.

Ben_Jamin

The thing is, we aren't ever guaranteed info about anything a band does, other than an album being released and tour dates.

Basically what I'm trying to say is its funny how people are getting this hurt about not knowing the new drummer. 

KevShmev

Quote from: Aniland on April 20, 2011, 10:23:31 AM
It's the monumental fault of somebody that this information was not given to us sooner. Label people can be idiots.

And fans can be annoyingly impatient.

King Postwhore

Quote from: KevShmev on April 20, 2011, 11:10:22 AM
Quote from: Aniland on April 20, 2011, 10:23:31 AM
It's the monumental fault of somebody that this information was not given to us sooner. Label people can be idiots.

And fans can be annoyingly impatient.

Amen Kev.
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phentalmyst

am i the only one hoping a lot of you are gonna be cleaning egg off your faces??

Lowdz

Quote from: kingshmegland on April 19, 2011, 03:46:22 PM
So in two weeks you've lost interest?  I bet you chat like a teenage girl in love when we find out the drummer and when the album will be released.  I know I will. :lol

It's impossible to maintain that level of excitement and expectation (just ask  my wife!) and I just burnt out on it I guess. It will change with the announcement, probably, but not for an announcement of an announcement.


King Postwhore

Quote from: Lowdz on April 20, 2011, 11:52:26 AM
Quote from: kingshmegland on April 19, 2011, 03:46:22 PM
So in two weeks you've lost interest?  I bet you chat like a teenage girl in love when we find out the drummer and when the album will be released.  I know I will. :lol

It's impossible to maintain that level of excitement and expectation (just ask  my wife!) and I just burnt out on it I guess. It will change with the announcement, probably, but not for an announcement of an announcement.


The wife analogy Lowdz was perfect. :rollin
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

chrisbDTM

a lot of people online think the announcement is tomorrow. im pretty sure we arent getting the actual drummer's name, but the list of the seven with videos hopefully

ronrule

Quote from: chrisbDTM on April 20, 2011, 12:42:13 PM
. . .the list of the seven with videos hopefully

I bet it will be weekly videos of the auditions.  Or teasers of the videos, with options to purchase a full DVD documentary.  They are going to spread this out to build up to album release and make money.  I think it will also be presented as very complimentary to all who auditioned, promoting whatever projects they have going so they don't look like "losers".

King Postwhore

Quote from: ronrule on April 20, 2011, 01:31:35 PM
Quote from: chrisbDTM on April 20, 2011, 12:42:13 PM
. . .the list of the seven with videos hopefully

I bet it will be weekly videos of the auditions.  Or teasers of the videos, with options to purchase a full DVD documentary.  They are going to spread this out to build up to album release and make money.  I think it will also be presented as very complimentary to all who auditioned, promoting whatever projects they have going so they don't look like "losers".

This makes so much sense.  Remember how the video's of them working in the studio during SDOIT?!  I think that's what they'll do.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

nikatapi

Taken from https://www.sickdrummermagazine.com/index.php/news/latest-news/2207-dream-theater-drummer-auditions-inside-story.html

There has been much talk over Dream Theater and the auditions they held to find a new drummer, since Mike Portnoy decided to leave the band last year. The band has stayed pretty quiet about the whole process, but now they gear up to announce their decision.

A source very close to the situation has told Sick Drummer Magazine the new drummer is Mike Mangini, and others who were asked/auditioned were: Derek Roddy, Marco Minnemann, Virgil Donati, Thomas Lang, Aquiles Priester and Peter Wildoer.

This was just posted 4/18 on the record label's website: "Dream Theater would like to share with its fans some of the intense process, along with the musical joy, that went into choosing a new drummer.  Who is the best fit behind the kit? Go to Dream Theater's Facebook page on Thursday, 4/21 at 11 AM to sign up for the mailing list and to receive more details about an exclusive and intimate look at the auditions, and to find out exactly when and how the momentous announcement about the band's new lineup will be made.  Also on Facebook, fans will be able to find out information about the band's upcoming 2011 World Tour".

What we do not like about this situation is the way the band went about the video footage detail. We feel the drummers were used in a sense, for their popularity. Each drummer was sent a camera to use and were asked to film as much as they could surrounding the audition. They were told it was to become "bonus footage" on a future DVD or something to that effect. The drummers were asked to film themselves preparing for the audition, practicing, traveling to the audition and anything else they felt relative. Then, upon arriving at the actual audition the drummers were asked to sign a release handing over all the video footage they had recorded, and if they didn't, they were not going to be able to audition.

We feel this is somewhat taking advantage of the drummers who auditioned and could have been handled a better way. Perhaps informing the drummers of the plan and sending a video release to be reviewed in advance. Not sticking them with a release at the audition and holding that over their heads as a requirement to audition, only to use the footage to steam up the facebook page around the announcement of the new drummer.

rumborak

Well, I know it's nasty, but tbh that's the only way you could assemble something of value. If you left it up to each drummer to decide afterwards whether they want to share the material, all the rejected ones would probably say "thanks but no thanks".
Let's just hope DT shows them in the best light possible so that it's still a promotional item for all the drummers.

rumborak

ronrule

Having the tryouts self-document is also smart in another way.  It really gives DT a closer look into the practice regimen, organization skills, creativity, and personality of the tryouts without spending weeks with each of them.

Cool Chris

I trust the guys to not show anything that would portray the candidates in a negative light. And I would assume the guys weren't filming anything stupid, like themselves taking a leak before heading out to the audition.

Never heard of Derek Roddy, so wiki'ed him, and found this:
QuoteDerek Roddy (born August 28, 1972) is an American drummer and snake breeder

:metal

QuoteWe feel the drummers were used in a sense, for their popularity.

Wouldn't the drummers also benefit from this as well? I assume I'll learn more about all these guys from watching these videos than I knew beforehand. Maybe I am just a believer in there being no such thing as bad press. But I still think they guys would find it an honor to be asked to audition.

TAC

I am very interested how DT was able to get ALL of the drummers to remain silent.
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jonny108

Hmmm, that's quite the interesting story.  Plus it seems to fit in with all the more believable rumours we've heard.  Let's see if it's true  :)

7StringedBeast

Quote from: TAC on April 20, 2011, 03:11:33 PM
I am very interested how DT was able to get ALL of the drummers to remain silent.

They made them an offer they couldn't refuse.

Adami

Quote from: TAC on April 20, 2011, 03:11:33 PM
I am very interested how DT was able to get ALL of the drummers to remain silent.

I assume they just asked them.
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JPX

I'm sure the contract included a confidentiality clause.

Adami

It's also really not that difficult to not tell everyone that you auditioned for DT. Especially if you're one of the people we think it is.
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chrisbDTM

i actually dont have anything to do tomorrow. waking up for this :metal

Nic35


Aniland

Quote from: KevShmev on April 20, 2011, 11:10:22 AM
Quote from: Aniland on April 20, 2011, 10:23:31 AM
It's the monumental fault of somebody that this information was not given to us sooner. Label people can be idiots.

And fans can be annoyingly impatient.

Nah. Plenty of time has passed. The time for patience is over.