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Title: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Weymolith on April 18, 2011, 09:00:29 AM
For Immediate Release
April 18, 2011

An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer

New York, NY: A little more than a month after original drummer Mike Portnoyís sudden departure from Dream Theater, the band held three days of auditions in New York City. Over an amazing and productive three-day period, the band played, jammed and spoke candidly with seven of the worldís greatest drummers, learning about them musically, personally and professionally, and assessing the fit of each drummerís incredible chops with the bandís trademark prog-rock sound. 

Dream Theater have been extremely sensitive to the fact that this is not only a monumental decision in their own lives, but also a critical moment in the lives of DT fans around the world. ďThe departure of our lifelong bandmate and friend was an unexpected and truly heartbreaking blow,Ē says guitarist John Petrucci. ďThe fact that as a result of that event weíd be introduced to seven infinitely capable and uniquely talented drummers was heartening.Ē

Dream Theater would like to share with its fans some of the intense process, along with the musical joy, that went into choosing a new drummer.  Who is the best fit behind the kit? 

Go to Dream Theaterís Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dream-Theater/7677942180) on Thursday, 4/21 at 11 AM to sign up for the mailing list and to receive more details about an exclusive and intimate look at the auditions, and to find out exactly when and how the momentous announcement about the bandís new lineup will be made.  Also on Facebook, fans will be able to find out information about the bandís upcoming 2011 World Tour.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jonny108 on April 18, 2011, 09:02:11 AM
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 18, 2011, 09:06:40 AM
So, wait. We're just finding out when and how on Friday, not who?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Raziel666 on April 18, 2011, 09:06:48 AM
Are we gonna crash the server???

Finally!!! :D
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Dr. DTVT on April 18, 2011, 09:07:26 AM
At least we'll know when and can stop the pointless and annoying speculation.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 18, 2011, 09:07:53 AM
can facebook crash? let's see!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Global Laziness on April 18, 2011, 09:09:43 AM
can facebook crash? let's see!

It absolutely can but it wouldn't happen from a group of Dream Theater fans.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 18, 2011, 09:12:35 AM
can facebook crash? let's see!

It absolutely can but it wouldn't happen from a group of Dream Theater fans.

joke

but i guess this means the other 6 drummers are ok with letting everyone know they didnt make it. this is interesting. things are happening!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Raziel666 on April 18, 2011, 09:12:50 AM
can facebook crash? let's see!

I was talking about the server where DTF is! :p
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 18, 2011, 09:13:38 AM
Here's to hoping they don't play out announcing the drummer through like a mini-reality tv show or something.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jonny108 on April 18, 2011, 09:13:46 AM
Also, 11AM in which time zone?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: FretMuppet on April 18, 2011, 09:15:13 AM
FUUUUUUUCKKK YESSSSSSSSSs The time has come!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Raziel666 on April 18, 2011, 09:16:17 AM
Also, 11AM in which time zone?

+1 about the time zone!

Also, for the other 6 drummers having their footage used: I guess they signed prior to the audition a contract that would allow DT to use the audition in whichever way they wanted.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: theusualmadness on April 18, 2011, 09:17:03 AM
Also, 11AM in which time zone?

EST. John Petrucci said it on Facebook.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 18, 2011, 09:17:37 AM
And there it is. Wow. It's finally coming.

And it looks like they're revealing it in a very cool way. Props guys. :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mladen on April 18, 2011, 09:18:48 AM
Getting closer.  ;D
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Volk9 on April 18, 2011, 09:24:55 AM
Cool. I was actually more interested in the auditions and the process rather than who they picked.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Writer on April 18, 2011, 09:26:00 AM
4/21 is day after Portnoy's birthday.

Nice  :hat
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 18, 2011, 09:32:45 AM
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The reason we were referring to, about how you will understand why we couldn't tell you, is because we didn't want Mike to have a sour birthday.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: antigoon on April 18, 2011, 09:33:17 AM
An announcement of an announcement of when the announcement is going to be. That really just seems fitting at this point :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 18, 2011, 09:35:07 AM
Although the fact that there's an exact date TO the announcement of the annoucement... nice. :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Raziel666 on April 18, 2011, 09:35:25 AM
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The reason we were referring to, about how you will understand why we couldn't tell you, is because we didn't want Mike to have a sour birthday.

Awesome! :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DreamerTV on April 18, 2011, 09:35:38 AM
In 5 minutes they gained more than 150 like on FB.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: yeshaberto on April 18, 2011, 09:40:34 AM
this is cool beyond cool
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: pogoowner on April 18, 2011, 09:42:36 AM
I wish I could say I expected to find out the identity of the new drummer on that date.

But at least it's something.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 18, 2011, 09:49:27 AM
In 5 minutes they gained more than 150 like on FB.

The sad thing is, Ray William Johnson literally makes about 2000 likes in ten seconds. I've seen it happen.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 18, 2011, 09:50:08 AM
So what is the mailing list we need to subscribe to? I'm too nervous that i'm going to miss something :S !!!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nikatapi on April 18, 2011, 09:50:15 AM
I hate that i need to have a facebook account to be a part of this. :tdwn
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 18, 2011, 09:52:44 AM
So what is the mailing list we need to subscribe to? I'm too nervous that i'm going to miss something :S !!!!

Read the article, brah.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 18, 2011, 09:59:59 AM
So what is the mailing list we need to subscribe to? I'm too nervous that i'm going to miss something :S !!!!

Read the article, brah.

Yeah, it says, subscribe to the mailling list in DT's facebook, there is no mailling list on DT's facebook or at least it doesn't show one to me.. so that's why i'm asking
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 18, 2011, 10:00:19 AM
Thank fuck!

Am I the only one who thinks this looks like it's going to be a sort of behind the scenes series of videos? I was pretty sure I heard the band saying they were filming the audition tapes for future use. I'd seen people challenged on it, and thought "no, I'm pretty sure they're right," but I couldn't quite remember. This looks like that use.

If they are doing it as a series of videos (and they might not be, I might be looking way too far into it - I'm full of coffee, not in a "rational reading comprehension" kinda mode) that's one hell of a good way to announce it. Shame it's taken so long, but this looks like it's going to be a pretty cool way to announce it.

So what is the mailing list we need to subscribe to? I'm too nervous that i'm going to miss something :S !!!!

Read the article, brah.

Yeah, it says, subscribe to the mailling list in DT's facebook, there is no mailling list on DT's facebook or at least it doesn't show one to me.. so that's why i'm asking
I think the idea is that you register for the mailing list on Thursday.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TAC on April 18, 2011, 10:04:00 AM
..but I'm not on Facebook. DTF is MY Facebook! :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Cool Chris on April 18, 2011, 10:16:06 AM
I hate that i need to have a facebook account to be a part of this. :tdwn

If that is true, that is indeed very annoying. Good thing I know my wife's facebook username/password.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tri.ad on April 18, 2011, 10:20:54 AM
Sounds great, really great.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 18, 2011, 10:21:52 AM
FUCK FUCK FUCK
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jonny108 on April 18, 2011, 10:24:01 AM
Also, from STEVETHEATER a while back.

"Pssst. You didn't get this from me. From a very reliable source.
These where 5 out of 7 who audition for DT. 3 days, all auditions where filmed for next DT album.

- Virgil Donati
- Peter Wildoer
- Mike Mangini
- Marco Minnemann
- Thomas Lang
"

Looks like he was right. Especially the 3 days and that they were filmed.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 18, 2011, 10:24:36 AM
Nice, and JLB starts his vocals.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Demi Zenith on April 18, 2011, 10:27:03 AM
Hmm...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 18, 2011, 10:35:52 AM
..but I'm not on Facebook. DTF is MY Facebook! :)

Then spend the 3 minutes it takes to set up a Facebook account, and you're all set.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: RoeDent on April 18, 2011, 10:40:13 AM
Yay! Finally, some drummer-related news endorsed by the band, rather than rumours from outside sources!  :tup  :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tick on April 18, 2011, 10:43:46 AM
and at the end of it all you will hear John P. say...

"and we are sooo excited to tell you who the new drummer is and will do so shortly, but rest assured, you will not be disappointed."
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Zydar on April 18, 2011, 10:45:09 AM
:caffeine:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Sixtease on April 18, 2011, 10:45:49 AM
So what is the mailing list we need to subscribe to? I'm too nervous that i'm going to miss something :S !!!!

Read the article, brah.

Yeah, it says, subscribe to the mailling list in DT's facebook, there is no mailling list on DT's facebook or at least it doesn't show one to me.. so that's why i'm asking
I second this. Hope I'll know where to click before the exclusive subscribing button disappears in 10 minutes. :-)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nihil-Morari on April 18, 2011, 10:46:52 AM
Me lik-ey
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tjanuranus on April 18, 2011, 10:49:43 AM
for some reason i think the band would be awesome with peter W! That dude is badass.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Chino on April 18, 2011, 10:54:00 AM
Fuck, now this wrek is going to go by really slowwwww.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Cool Chris on April 18, 2011, 10:54:28 AM
Then spend the 3 minutes it takes to set up a Facebook accountÖ.

And the rest of your life getting friend requests from people you hated in high school, invites to play Mafia Wars, and every corporation in the world able to buy my personal info? No thanks.

But seriously, it really is an annoying way for an established band to get information out.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tick on April 18, 2011, 10:57:40 AM
Then spend the 3 minutes it takes to set up a Facebook accountÖ.

And the rest of your life getting friend requests from people you hated in high school, invites to play Mafia Wars, and every corporation in the world able to buy my personal info? No thanks.

But seriously, it really is an annoying way for an established band to get information out.

Perhaps they should tweet it instead?
:tick2:

Honestly, who gives a shit. 20 seconds later it will be posted right here.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 18, 2011, 10:58:49 AM
Well, you don't have to keep your Facebook.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 18, 2011, 11:05:24 AM
Then spend the 3 minutes it takes to set up a Facebook account….

And the rest of your life getting friend requests from people you hated in high school, invites to play Mafia Wars, and every corporation in the world able to buy my personal info? No thanks.

But seriously, it really is an annoying way for an established band to get information out.
Just... ignore them. Just because you create an account doesn't mean you have to maintain it. Even better, don't put your personal info up. Heck, register under a fake name.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 18, 2011, 11:08:42 AM
for some reason i think the band would be awesome with peter W! That dude is badass.

It is not Peter. Peter is back home skiing.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tick on April 18, 2011, 11:09:23 AM
Then spend the 3 minutes it takes to set up a Facebook accountÖ.

And the rest of your life getting friend requests from people you hated in high school, invites to play Mafia Wars, and every corporation in the world able to buy my personal info? No thanks.

But seriously, it really is an annoying way for an established band to get information out.
Just... ignore them. Just because you create an account doesn't mean you have to maintain it. Even better, don't put your personal info up. Heck, register under a fake name.
or...wait 5 minutes and you will know everything here!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: reo73 on April 18, 2011, 11:26:00 AM
Then spend the 3 minutes it takes to set up a Facebook accountÖ.

And the rest of your life getting friend requests from people you hated in high school, invites to play Mafia Wars, and every corporation in the world able to buy my personal info? No thanks.

But seriously, it really is an annoying way for an established band to get information out.

You can set yourself up on Facebook to be almost completely invisible to other people.  Friends won't be able to find you if they search.  Just need to do some deep editing of the privacy settings once you set-up your account.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: reo73 on April 18, 2011, 11:29:27 AM
If they do this right with the audition vids and the final announcement it will ALMOST be worth the wait.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 18, 2011, 11:31:12 AM
So what is the mailing list we need to subscribe to? I'm too nervous that i'm going to miss something :S !!!!

Read the article, brah.

Yeah, it says, subscribe to the mailling list in DT's facebook, there is no mailling list on DT's facebook or at least it doesn't show one to me.. so that's why i'm asking
I second this. Hope I'll know where to click before the exclusive subscribing button disappears in 10 minutes. :-)

Reading comprehension, folks. It's telling you to sign up for the mailing list on the day it says.

..but I'm not on Facebook. DTF is MY Facebook! :)

Then spend the 3 minutes it takes to set up a Facebook account, and you're all set.

I will never understand people who bitch about Facebook; it's literally the easiest thing in the world to make an account.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 18, 2011, 11:32:03 AM
Then spend the 3 minutes it takes to set up a Facebook accountÖ.

And the rest of your life getting friend requests from people you hated in high school, invites to play Mafia Wars, and every corporation in the world able to buy my personal info? No thanks.

But seriously, it really is an annoying way for an established band to get information out.

Here's a great idea, bro. Are you ready?

Don't put in your fucking information.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 18, 2011, 11:33:22 AM
Then spend the 3 minutes it takes to set up a Facebook accountÖ.

And the rest of your life getting friend requests from people you hated in high school, invites to play Mafia Wars, and every corporation in the world able to buy my personal info? No thanks.

But seriously, it really is an annoying way for an established band to get information out.

Here's a great idea, bro. Are you ready?

Don't put in your fucking information.

 :chill
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Cool Chris on April 18, 2011, 11:40:24 AM
I will never understand people who bitch about Facebook; it's literally the easiest thing in the world to make an account.

I'm only bitching about it because they could post info on their website, or distribute via mailing list. Believe it or not, that would actually be easier than signing up on fb and doing everything that way.

But anyway, sorry to be a sourpuss. Carry on with the excitement and merriment and I will zip my lip.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Sixtease on April 18, 2011, 11:45:06 AM
I'm only bitching about it because they could post info on their website, or distribute via mailing list. Believe it or not, that would actually be easier than signing up on fb and doing everything that way.
But like this, and unlike posting it on a webpage, they'll have a shitload of people whom they can then send any kind of marketing information. Let alone because they'll explicitly submit to a mailing list. And they won't need to worry about server overload. From their point of view, it makes a whole lot of sense to use Facebook.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 18, 2011, 11:50:40 AM
If They do a vid a day eliminating drummers till the end announcement, it'd be funny if the first guy they eliminated was Mike Mangini, it'd make it really interesting.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 18, 2011, 11:53:53 AM
I could conceive of them doing one-a-day and carefully doing the editing of each one so that it's completely vague about whether the person is eliminated or not.  That would actually be pretty genius in terms of generating buzz and wouldn't be hard to do at all.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 18, 2011, 11:56:19 AM
...oh my god, I just realized that the little face in your avatar is RB.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 18, 2011, 11:58:17 AM
Actually, it's Anakin Skywalker's niece, Rebecca Vader, and her chief henchman, Darth Kitty.  But now we're off-topic, so...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 18, 2011, 12:12:52 PM
I haven't done one of these posts in a LONG time (like way back in the DT.net days), but I think it's time for:

The Score So Far, According to bosk1.

So, thus far in the thread, we have the following posts:

-Official announcements about how all this works:  1 post
-Posts asking how all this works (or attempting to answer):  14 posts
-Fanboy appreciation (not that there's anything wrong with that):  7 posts
-"It's about time!"/"Good, now we can finally stop speculating":  5 posts
-Debates about Facebook:  21 posts
-"I stopped caring _ months ago":   2 posts
-Veiled jabs at Mike Portnoy:  4 posts
-Drummer speculation:  2 posts
-Rebecca Black discussion:  2 posts


I'd say the thread is developing along expected lines.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: j on April 18, 2011, 12:17:40 PM
[facebook stuff]

I think facebook is lame too, but I have an account I set up back when it was first created.  I used it for a few weeks and have sworn off it since.  But the account is still there for the occasional use.  I have no information posted, no pictures, nothing.  All they have is my e-mail address.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to this!

I believe my post falls under categories 3 and 5.  Bosk please edit your tally appropriately.

-J
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: KevShmev on April 18, 2011, 12:20:43 PM
I would think that any update they put, even video ones, will be up on Roadrunner's site not long after the FB updates, so you probably don't need to be on FB to see this.  Just a guess.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Orion1967 on April 18, 2011, 12:21:11 PM
and at the end of it all you will hear John P. say...

"and we are sooo excited to tell you who the new drummer is and will do so shortly, but rest assured, you will not be disappointed."

Sadly, this is pretty much what I expect to happen....
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: skydivingninja on April 18, 2011, 12:26:09 PM
So is there a time limit for this?  I'll be in class until 12:30 tomorrow and I'd hate to miss signing up if its only for a limited time.  I'd really like some new album and drummer info soon!  More info is better than none, after all.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 18, 2011, 12:32:07 PM
Probably not. Its just to sign up to a mailing list, think it'll stay until the actual announcement.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: YtseJamittaja on April 18, 2011, 12:32:49 PM
I haven't done one of these posts in a LONG time (like way back in the DT.net days), but I think it's time for:

The Score So Far, According to bosk1.

So, thus far in the thread, we have the following posts:

-Official announcements about how all this works:  1 post
-Posts asking how all this works (or attempting to answer):  14 posts
-Fanboy appreciation (not that there's anything wrong with that):  7 posts
-"It's about time!"/"Good, now we can finally stop speculating":  5 posts
-Debates about Facebook:  21 posts
-"I stopped caring _ months ago":   2 posts
-Veiled jabs at Mike Portnoy:  4 posts
-Drummer speculation:  2 posts
-Rebecca Black discussion:  2 posts


I'd say the thread is developing along expected lines.  :biggrin:

as expected  :lol


Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 18, 2011, 12:47:47 PM
SA-WEET!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: blackngold29 on April 18, 2011, 12:48:36 PM
I really don't understand this, at all. There's no reason for e-mail lists anymore. Anything "exclusive" will be online for everyone to see 30 seconds later. Don't tell me a time to come back later, don't tell me to check back anywhere ever period. If it's not done, don't bother me with it. If it is done, put it up.

Just put it on your website. Have JP and JR tweet it and fb status it. Everybody sees it directly at the source.


I'm annoyed at companies that don't know how to broadcast their messages correctly. /rant not solely directed at DT



EDIT: Just to clarify, I fucking love that we'll probably get a video series dedicated to who the new drummer is and the audition process, but I just don't like the delivery route.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 18, 2011, 12:49:32 PM
Well it does say, for exclusive footage.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: theusualmadness on April 18, 2011, 12:52:03 PM
I am pretty sure it will be posted on their official website, along with other websites.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: blackngold29 on April 18, 2011, 12:52:42 PM
I am pretty sure it will be posted on their official website, along with other websites.
Exactly, so why the whole fb mailing list waste?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: theusualmadness on April 18, 2011, 12:54:50 PM
I am pretty sure it will be posted on their official website, along with other websites.
Exactly, so why the whole fb mailing list waste?

Good question. I think it will be posted there first.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tick on April 18, 2011, 12:56:58 PM
The one cool thing about Facebook  is that you can actually create your own web pages to promote whatever you wish for free on there site. That is kind of cool.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 18, 2011, 12:59:10 PM
Maybe its for footage regarding their search, not nessecarily about the new drummer. Read thread title, that's what this is. Of course, they'll post the drummer announcement.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kennedymichael on April 18, 2011, 01:07:04 PM
How about this - They release an audition video each week and the last one is the drummer.

or a variation on this . . . .
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Metropolis pt.-1 on April 18, 2011, 01:08:17 PM
How about this - They release an audition video each week and the last one is the drummer.

or a variation on this . . . .

I doubt we will wait another 7 weeks for the announcement.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ZeppelinDT on April 18, 2011, 01:08:54 PM
I wonder if they'll have Ryan Seacrest hosting these videos...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 18, 2011, 01:55:00 PM
I haven't done one of these posts in a LONG time (like way back in the DT.net days), but I think it's time for:

The Score So Far, According to bosk1.

So, thus far in the thread, we have the following posts:

-Official announcements about how all this works:  1 post
-Posts asking how all this works (or attempting to answer):  14 posts
-Fanboy appreciation (not that there's anything wrong with that):  7 posts
-"It's about time!"/"Good, now we can finally stop speculating":  5 posts
-Debates about Facebook:  21 posts
-"I stopped caring _ months ago":   2 posts
-Veiled jabs at Mike Portnoy:  4 posts
-Drummer speculation:  2 posts
-Rebecca Black discussion:  2 posts


I'd say the thread is developing along expected lines.  :biggrin:
Oh welcome back!

Now, score the drummer bets thread.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 18, 2011, 01:59:10 PM
:lol  I don't have that much time.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DeanTheater on April 18, 2011, 02:00:35 PM
4/21 is day after Portnoy's birthday.

Nice  :hat

and Adolf Hitler.................NUGGETZ



cant wait for the reveal.  sweeeeeet
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TAC on April 18, 2011, 02:06:21 PM
:lol  I don't have that much time.

Don't worry Bosk, I got this one for you..


-"interesting posts"..29
-"spam"..4600
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 18, 2011, 02:12:07 PM
:lol  I don't have that much time.
Score it.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: emtee on April 18, 2011, 02:19:30 PM
If Wiki is correct Mangini's birthday is 4/18/63. Chicken nugget.

I'll pass on signing up for anything. When the album comes out I'll buy it. Then I'll go from there.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 18, 2011, 02:32:43 PM
If Wiki is correct Mangini's birthday is 4/18/63. Chicken nugget.
A coincidence?  ::)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 18, 2011, 02:33:48 PM
No.  But I'm open to the "fullfillment of prophesy" option.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bloop on April 18, 2011, 02:51:23 PM
FINALLY.   :corn

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Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 18, 2011, 03:15:18 PM
My birthday is the day after the mailing list will go up on their facebook.  Am I the new drummer?  Stay tuned.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: cookienut on April 18, 2011, 03:29:23 PM
About time we finally discover something useful.

Oh and also about DT's new drummer
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 18, 2011, 04:52:08 PM
This is awesome, and I have that day off. Best believe I be on the internet at that time
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MemoryScenes on April 18, 2011, 05:14:35 PM
Hopefully some kind forum goers will offer up links to any (potential) videos discovered from the exclusive. For those of us who avoid Facebook like the plague.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 18, 2011, 05:15:20 PM
 :biggrin:
Somebody was quick :) look at that - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Mangini
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 18, 2011, 05:22:18 PM
Hopefully some kind forum goers will offer up links to any (potential) videos discovered from the exclusive. For those of us who avoid Facebook like the plague.

Depending on what lengths the band goes to to keep these exclusive, that may or may not end up being a bannable offense.  Hopefully, anyone who is inclined to post any such thing has the sense to ask permission once we are a bit closer and I have a better idea about whether or not that sort of thing can be allowed.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: OsMosis2259 on April 18, 2011, 05:35:52 PM
I'm getting pretty excited for this but sounds like there are going to be so many announcements which I don't really get the point. It's been 6-7 months already since MP left and I wish they can just tell us who the drummer is and get it over with...

Are we going to officially find out on Thursday or is there going to be just another announcement?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 18, 2011, 05:44:33 PM
Quote
to sign up for the mailing list and to receive more details about an exclusive and intimate look at the auditions

o_O?

Could they have made it sound any more shifty? :lol
I really, really hope they don't just announce on the mailing list that the auditions will be part of a DVD package of the new album.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MemoryScenes on April 18, 2011, 05:45:01 PM
With respect Bosk, at this point I would think DT would benefit from and want this exposure. I understand your tentative position though because of the word 'exclusive' and lack of further detail. I guess we will all see on Thursday!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 18, 2011, 05:51:44 PM
I just don't know at this point.  I don't have any further information, so it's hard to say what I should and shouldn't allow, and I haven't gotten any direction one way or the other from management.  But even though we are not an "official" forum, I do respect the band's wishes on stuff like that, as it says in the forum rules, so we'll just have to wait and see what the info is and what the band wants done with it.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MemoryScenes on April 18, 2011, 05:56:57 PM
Yeah, I can understand your position.
Hopefully, we just get some good links to some hq youtube vids!  :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 18, 2011, 05:58:52 PM
That's true Bosk. You should ask if this info is strict or if its available to post.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 18, 2011, 06:02:38 PM
That's true Bosk. You should ask if this info is strict or if its available to post.

I've asked.  No info yet, but I'm sure I'll get some sort of answer when the time is right and I'll let you guys know what is or is not okay to repost.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JPX on April 18, 2011, 06:02:55 PM
FINALLY.   :corn

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Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 18, 2011, 06:21:30 PM
I just don't know at this point.  I don't have any further information, so it's hard to say what I should and shouldn't allow, and I haven't gotten any direction one way or the other from management.  But even though we are not an "official" forum, I do respect the band's wishes on stuff like that, as it says in the forum rules, so we'll just have to wait and see what the info is and what the band wants done with it.
100% agree.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Implode on April 18, 2011, 06:27:30 PM
I have class during this.  :-\
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 18, 2011, 06:29:56 PM
Cool. Just can't wait till they release their first exclusive.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JPX on April 18, 2011, 06:58:56 PM
How about this - They release an audition video each week and the last one is the drummer.

or a variation on this . . . .

How about a 6 word press release.

Our new drummer is ________ _________.

DT & Roadrunner
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 18, 2011, 07:02:34 PM
As excited as I am to see we're finally gonna learn who the drummer is, doesn't an "announcement of the announcement" have anyone worried that something extremely gimmicky is going to ensue?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: darkshot on April 18, 2011, 07:12:47 PM
I'm just happy to hear anything at this point, its been so long since we heard anything official.  This does sound like they are going to milk the announcement even after this long.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: italianoman on April 18, 2011, 07:18:54 PM
Yar; I look at it like this: any press they generate is exposure and exposure = fans/money and if Dream Theater is making money I'm happy...even if they have to string us around by our pinkies for a few months to do it. Also, someone should compile some of the more hilarious comments on DT's Facebook :D "Dream THEATER, WHY NEVER INDIA PAST present or June bug! THIS hate overcomes mountains of valor for your swedish massage PORTNOY!"
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: SystematicThought on April 18, 2011, 07:44:35 PM
So do we have to sign up exactly at 11 AM or can we do it later in the day. This whole thing is rather unclear
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: unspoken on April 18, 2011, 07:50:20 PM
I wonder if Portnoy will subscribe to the mailing list...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JPX on April 18, 2011, 07:53:33 PM
Yar; I look at it like this: any press they generate is exposure and exposure = fans/money and if Dream Theater is making money I'm happy...even if they have to string us around by our pinkies for a few months to do it. Also, someone should compile some of the more hilarious comments on DT's Facebook :D "Dream THEATER, WHY NEVER INDIA PAST present or June bug! THIS hate overcomes mountains of valor for your swedish massage PORTNOY!"

I want what he's having.  :hat
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 18, 2011, 08:06:58 PM
So do we have to sign up exactly at 11 AM or can we do it later in the day. This whole thing is rather unclear

Do you really think they're going to ONLY let people who are there in that 60 second period sign up?  :justjen
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: SystematicThought on April 18, 2011, 08:53:36 PM
So do we have to sign up exactly at 11 AM or can we do it later in the day. This whole thing is rather unclear

Do you really think they're going to ONLY let people who are there in that 60 second period sign up?  :justjen
I really wouldn't be surprised if it just lasted from 11 to 12, Aniland. I really wouldn't
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 18, 2011, 08:59:35 PM
Anyways, Still can't wait to get some recent footage of something, at least footage.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: blackngold29 on April 18, 2011, 09:19:30 PM
As excited as I am to see we're finally gonna learn who the drummer is, doesn't an "announcement of the announcement" have anyone worried that something extremely gimmicky is going to ensue?
Kind of like how they still haven't said anything about actually announcing the new guy, just "At this point sign up, and then at some unknown point we will tell you when we will announce him."

Yeah...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 19, 2011, 12:47:46 AM
If you don't want to join Facebook, that's fine. It'll be on here. Its basically saying they're gonna post a link to the newsletter sign up. Which will be posted here...

Anything the band says will be posted here guaranteed.

"The announcement will not disappoint." "We'll let you know soon"
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on April 19, 2011, 03:24:56 AM
I understand respectiving exclusivity, but it strikes me as ironic that DT would be using a social networking site for an item they don't want socially networked.

Looking forward to the videos in any regard.  I wonder how long this "announcement to the announcement" has been in the works.  At least since James signed up for FB a couple of months ago, don't you think?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 19, 2011, 04:59:22 AM
I understand respectiving exclusivity, but it strikes me as ironic that DT would be using a social networking site for an item they don't want socially networked.

Looking forward to the videos in any regard.  I wonder how long this "announcement to the announcement" has been in the works.  At least since James signed up for FB a couple of months ago, don't you think?
James has had facebook for years... found his profile a little while ago while idly searching - wondered if he might be tucked away under the name Kevin. He was. People only started adding him fairly recently, though.

What makes you think they don't want it socially networked? They're trying to ride the tide of publicity... I'd imagine that's exactly the point. They want to make the blogosphere explode. I might be missing something, here.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Raziel666 on April 19, 2011, 05:13:09 AM
Kind of like how they still haven't said anything about actually announcing the new guy, just "At this point sign up, and then at some unknown point we will tell you when we will announce him."

In the press release it says that we will find out exactly when and now the drummer announcement will be made, so it's not an unknown point.

Also, if it was for some distant future, I don't think the press release would be tagged 'For immediate release'.

Just my 2c...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ZBomber on April 19, 2011, 05:25:27 AM
I don't understand why it would be bannable under any circumstance. The band probably just wanted to make announcing the drummer fun. I don't think they are trying to keep it "exclusive", so I don't know why it would be a bannable offense to post it here. Considering atleast 80% of the people on this forum most likely have a facebook, it'd be really dumb to restrict discussion on it even if the band, by some ridiculous stretch of logic, wanted the information they are releasing to millions of people.... private.

Plus, every single other music website on the internet is gonna have that news. So if you don't have it here, you're pretty much losing traffic because people are just gonna go to any other website... probably even MP's forum.  :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 19, 2011, 06:13:08 AM
So do we have to sign up exactly at 11 AM or can we do it later in the day. This whole thing is rather unclear

Do you really think they're going to ONLY let people who are there in that 60 second period sign up?  :justjen
Yep. That's what they are going to do. And everyone on the other side of the world should set an alarm clock and wake up in the middle of the night just for this event.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nihil-Morari on April 19, 2011, 06:16:30 AM
Vox, what time is it over here then?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: blackngold29 on April 19, 2011, 06:41:19 AM
Kind of like how they still haven't said anything about actually announcing the new guy, just "At this point sign up, and then at some unknown point we will tell you when we will announce him."

In the press release it says that we will find out exactly when and now the drummer announcement will be made, so it's not an unknown point.

But it doesn't say when they will announce that. They could wait two more months (or any other period of time) then say "We'll tell you next Tuesday."


I understand respectiving exclusivity, but it strikes me as ironic that DT would be using a social networking site for an item they don't want socially networked.
Wouldn't they want it spread as much as possible? Why would anyone with something to sell not want something "socially networked"?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Xanthul on April 19, 2011, 06:45:10 AM
But it doesn't say when they will announce that. They could wait two more months (or any other period of time) then say "We'll tell you next Tuesday."

It does:

Quote
Go to Dream Theaterís Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dream-Theater/7677942180) on Thursday, 4/21 at 11 AM to sign up for the mailing list and to receive more details about an exclusive and intimate look at the auditions, and to find out exactly when and how the momentous announcement about the bandís new lineup will be made.

Thursday at 11 AM they will say exactly when and how the "real" announcement will be.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: theusualmadness on April 19, 2011, 08:21:29 AM
You guys do know, you do not need a facebook account to see and visit DT's facebook page?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Kotowboy on April 19, 2011, 08:25:35 AM
Meh......

I'll find out on here i'm sure.

If I can sign up on Thursday at whatever time I go there, cool.

If not, no biggie.

 :coolio
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Metal on April 19, 2011, 09:41:45 AM
I have class during this.  :-\

Then the only option Dream Theater has left you is to skip said class.    :hat
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 19, 2011, 09:43:34 AM
That's true. You don't have to sign up for Facebook to view their page. The only thing you sign up for is the mailing list which will be a link.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 19, 2011, 10:42:40 AM
Eh, I will hear it on here. Not signing up for an announcement of an announcement.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: blackngold29 on April 19, 2011, 01:57:09 PM
But it doesn't say when they will announce that. They could wait two more months (or any other period of time) then say "We'll tell you next Tuesday."

It does:

Quote
Go to Dream Theaterís Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dream-Theater/7677942180) on Thursday, 4/21 at 11 AM to sign up for the mailing list and to receive more details about an exclusive and intimate look at the auditions, and to find out exactly when and how the momentous announcement about the bandís new lineup will be made.

Thursday at 11 AM they will say exactly when and how the "real" announcement will be.
That is not how I interpret that sentence. To me that says, 'You can sign up for the mailing list Thursday.' It does not say 'We will be sending things out to the people on the mailing list on Thursday.'
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 19, 2011, 02:05:46 PM
Apparently you can't read..."and to receive"
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: theusualmadness on April 19, 2011, 02:36:43 PM
Apparently you can't read..."and to receive"

This does not mean Thursday, but it could mean Thursday!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: blackngold29 on April 19, 2011, 02:40:02 PM
Apparently you can't read..."and to receive"
It says "receive", but it doesn't say "Receive on Thursday." We could receive it on Thursday, or Friday, or the second Tuesday of next week.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 19, 2011, 02:59:32 PM
I'm also very hesitant about what it means in terms of timing. I have the impression they intentionally worded it so ambiguously.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: SystematicThought on April 19, 2011, 03:01:32 PM
This pretty much explains though why it's taken so long. Evidently RR wanted to do this mailing list and drag it out even more...

Don't get me wrong, this is my impression. I'm excited for this and pumped for Thursday
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 19, 2011, 04:04:54 PM
Vox, what time is it over here then?
No idea and I must say that I don't really care that much. I'll see whatever announcent they make here, just 30 seconds later. And I don't really care for DT that much anymore.

But if I had to guess the time difference is somewhere between 6 and 9 hours :p. It's not exactly clear to me what timezone DT is in.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JasonScandopolous on April 19, 2011, 04:07:44 PM
But it doesn't say when they will announce that. They could wait two more months (or any other period of time) then say "We'll tell you next Tuesday."

It does:

Quote
Go to Dream Theaterís Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dream-Theater/7677942180) on Thursday, 4/21 at 11 AM to sign up for the mailing list and to receive more details about an exclusive and intimate look at the auditions, and to find out exactly when and how the momentous announcement about the bandís new lineup will be made.

Thursday at 11 AM they will say exactly when and how the "real" announcement will be.
That is not how I interpret that sentence. To me that says, 'You can sign up for the mailing list Thursday.' It does not say 'We will be sending things out to the people on the mailing list on Thursday.'

Maybe it's just me, but it seems pretty clear what is going to happen.  On thursday, on their facebook page, you will be able to sign up for a mailing list.  On thursday, information will be provided on their facebook page regarding the "exclusive and intimate look at the auditions".  On thursday, you will learn when you'll know the new drummer, and how.  

You will not know the new drummer on thursday.  This much is obvious from the word "when" in the last sentence ("..to find out exactly when and how the momentous announcement will be made")...  Unless you consider this a possible Thursday message:  "you found out when the announcement will be made:  just a second ago, when you read the sentence telling you who it was!  congrats!".  

You probably need to sign up for the mailing list to get further info about the "exclusive intimate look at the auditions" (to actually get the exclusive look, rather than to be told how the exclusive look will be transmitted, which is what is happening Thursday).  Bosk may or may not let this info leak onto DTF without you signing up for the mailing list, but it'll be on the internet somewhere anyway, I'm sure.



Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Lowdz on April 19, 2011, 04:41:47 PM
A few weeks ago I would have been excited for any announcement, even this announcement of an announcement, but I find I'm not.
Can't wait to hear the album but I got new drummer fatigue a few weeks ago. I think part of that is because I suspect it's Mangini and I'm not excited by the thought. If the video of the auditions comes true it may be the only chance I get of seeing DT with Thomas Lang and I will stir up some excitment for that.

Is it just me that thinks 3 days to audition 7 drummers doesn't seem a long time to be making such a big decision? 2-3 a day, some playing and some bonding.
 At least it hasn't taken as long as choosing a singer. Imagine if the internet had been around then... We found the guy... oh,no we haven't... we found another...err no... we found this chick...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 19, 2011, 04:46:22 PM
So in two weeks you've lost interest?  I bet you chat like a teenage girl in love when we find out the drummer and when the album will be released.  I know I will. :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Cool Chris on April 19, 2011, 04:55:38 PM
Is it just me that thinks 3 days to audition 7 drummers doesn't seem a long time to be making such a big decision?

I thought that too, but I imagine some band members already knew the candidates personally, and possibly even have worked with them in some capacity in the past.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: darkshot on April 19, 2011, 04:57:32 PM
3 days of auditioning, but who knows how long it took them to come to the decision after the fact.  They probably reviewed the videos many times before deciding (unless it was an obvious choice which I doubt)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: mittinagus on April 19, 2011, 07:14:15 PM
I think they just want to justify why they chose a drummer that wants to be the fastest in the world and sounds like a drum machine doing it...

I'm more excited for audition videos than for the announcement itself...

Tin
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: manticore999 on April 19, 2011, 07:22:05 PM
I remember back when there was word that George Lucas was going to make the first three movies in the Star Wars saga, to tell how it all began.  Then came more hype, more rumors, more 'speculations' from the fans, more 'secrets exposed' about the upcoming first movie. Finally they announced the movie release date - which was going to be in, like, 10 months or so from the announcement.  Cue more speculation, more secrets more advertising, more teasers, more previews.  Finally .... finally ... opening day came and I didn't give a shit.  I was so tired of hearing about it that I completely lost interest and I've never seen more than the first 30-40 minutes of the first one before I fell asleep and never saw anything else.

All that to say that I'm completely losing interest in this.  I couldn't care less if they released an album at this point.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 19, 2011, 07:31:26 PM
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Plasmastrike on April 19, 2011, 08:05:37 PM
*Press Release*
Wow, color me excited. Thursday is marked on the calendar! :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: blackngold29 on April 19, 2011, 08:06:21 PM
But dude, Episode I was fantastic. You really missed out. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 19, 2011, 08:11:31 PM
That's why I don't keep looking at the pot to see when the water will finally boil. I go on until it's ready. Such a waste of time, energy, and excitement when you do that with this kind of stuff.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 19, 2011, 10:04:43 PM
That's why I don't keep looking at the pot to see when the water will finally boil. I go on until it's ready. Such a waste of time, energy, and excitement when you do that with this kind of stuff.

That's why I don't keep looking at the pot to see when the water will finally boil. I go on until it's ready. Such a waste of time, energy, and excitement when you do that with this kind of stuff.

+1

I can't help but feel DT know that we don't really care anymore, yet this is their way of trying to gain more interest. Granted, I know whoever they picked will do well, but still.

I think they succeeded in renewing interest. I said I didn't care anymore, yet now I do.


edit - too lazy to fix broken quote, you guys know me by now.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 20, 2011, 11:23:31 AM
It's the monumental fault of somebody that this information was not given to us sooner. Label people can be idiots.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 20, 2011, 11:37:29 AM
The thing is, we aren't ever guaranteed info about anything a band does, other than an album being released and tour dates.

Basically what I'm trying to say is its funny how people are getting this hurt about not knowing the new drummer. 
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: KevShmev on April 20, 2011, 12:10:22 PM
It's the monumental fault of somebody that this information was not given to us sooner. Label people can be idiots.

And fans can be annoyingly impatient.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 20, 2011, 12:35:27 PM
It's the monumental fault of somebody that this information was not given to us sooner. Label people can be idiots.

And fans can be annoyingly impatient.

Amen Kev.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: phentalmyst on April 20, 2011, 12:42:59 PM
am i the only one hoping a lot of you are gonna be cleaning egg off your faces??
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Lowdz on April 20, 2011, 12:52:26 PM
So in two weeks you've lost interest?  I bet you chat like a teenage girl in love when we find out the drummer and when the album will be released.  I know I will. :lol

It's impossible to maintain that level of excitement and expectation (just ask  my wife!) and I just burnt out on it I guess. It will change with the announcement, probably, but not for an announcement of an announcement.

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 20, 2011, 12:59:49 PM
So in two weeks you've lost interest?  I bet you chat like a teenage girl in love when we find out the drummer and when the album will be released.  I know I will. :lol

It's impossible to maintain that level of excitement and expectation (just ask  my wife!) and I just burnt out on it I guess. It will change with the announcement, probably, but not for an announcement of an announcement.


The wife analogy Lowdz was perfect. :rollin
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 20, 2011, 01:42:13 PM
a lot of people online think the announcement is tomorrow. im pretty sure we arent getting the actual drummer's name, but the list of the seven with videos hopefully
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ronrule on April 20, 2011, 02:31:35 PM
. . .the list of the seven with videos hopefully

I bet it will be weekly videos of the auditions.  Or teasers of the videos, with options to purchase a full DVD documentary.  They are going to spread this out to build up to album release and make money.  I think it will also be presented as very complimentary to all who auditioned, promoting whatever projects they have going so they don't look like "losers".
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 20, 2011, 02:35:11 PM
. . .the list of the seven with videos hopefully

I bet it will be weekly videos of the auditions.  Or teasers of the videos, with options to purchase a full DVD documentary.  They are going to spread this out to build up to album release and make money.  I think it will also be presented as very complimentary to all who auditioned, promoting whatever projects they have going so they don't look like "losers".

This makes so much sense.  Remember how the video's of them working in the studio during SDOIT?!  I think that's what they'll do.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nikatapi on April 20, 2011, 03:16:44 PM
Taken from https://www.sickdrummermagazine.com/index.php/news/latest-news/2207-dream-theater-drummer-auditions-inside-story.html (https://www.sickdrummermagazine.com/index.php/news/latest-news/2207-dream-theater-drummer-auditions-inside-story.html)

There has been much talk over Dream Theater and the auditions they held to find a new drummer, since Mike Portnoy decided to leave the band last year. The band has stayed pretty quiet about the whole process, but now they gear up to announce their decision.
 
A source very close to the situation has told Sick Drummer Magazine the new drummer is Mike Mangini, and others who were asked/auditioned were: Derek Roddy, Marco Minnemann, Virgil Donati, Thomas Lang, Aquiles Priester and Peter Wildoer.
 
This was just posted 4/18 on the record label's website: "Dream Theater would like to share with its fans some of the intense process, along with the musical joy, that went into choosing a new drummer.  Who is the best fit behind the kit? Go to Dream Theaterís Facebook page on Thursday, 4/21 at 11 AM to sign up for the mailing list and to receive more details about an exclusive and intimate look at the auditions, and to find out exactly when and how the momentous announcement about the bandís new lineup will be made.  Also on Facebook, fans will be able to find out information about the bandís upcoming 2011 World Tour".
 
What we do not like about this situation is the way the band went about the video footage detail. We feel the drummers were used in a sense, for their popularity. Each drummer was sent a camera to use and were asked to film as much as they could surrounding the audition. They were told it was to become "bonus footage" on a future DVD or something to that effect. The drummers were asked to film themselves preparing for the audition, practicing, traveling to the audition and anything else they felt relative. Then, upon arriving at the actual audition the drummers were asked to sign a release handing over all the video footage they had recorded, and if they didn't, they were not going to be able to audition.
 
We feel this is somewhat taking advantage of the drummers who auditioned and could have been handled a better way. Perhaps informing the drummers of the plan and sending a video release to be reviewed in advance. Not sticking them with a release at the audition and holding that over their heads as a requirement to audition, only to use the footage to steam up the facebook page around the announcement of the new drummer.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 20, 2011, 03:32:51 PM
Well, I know it's nasty, but tbh that's the only way you could assemble something of value. If you left it up to each drummer to decide afterwards whether they want to share the material, all the rejected ones would probably say "thanks but no thanks".
Let's just hope DT shows them in the best light possible so that it's still a promotional item for all the drummers.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ronrule on April 20, 2011, 03:41:39 PM
Having the tryouts self-document is also smart in another way.  It really gives DT a closer look into the practice regimen, organization skills, creativity, and personality of the tryouts without spending weeks with each of them.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Cool Chris on April 20, 2011, 03:50:24 PM
I trust the guys to not show anything that would portray the candidates in a negative light. And I would assume the guys werenít filming anything stupid, like themselves taking a leak before heading out to the audition.

Never heard of Derek Roddy, so wikiíed him, and found this:
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Derek Roddy (born August 28, 1972) is an American drummer and snake breeder

:metal

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We feel the drummers were used in a sense, for their popularity.

Wouldnít the drummers also benefit from this as well? I assume Iíll learn more about all these guys from watching these videos than I knew beforehand. Maybe I am just a believer in there being no such thing as bad press. But I still think they guys would find it an honor to be asked to audition.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TAC on April 20, 2011, 04:11:33 PM
I am very interested how DT was able to get ALL of the drummers to remain silent.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jonny108 on April 20, 2011, 04:22:34 PM
Hmmm, that's quite the interesting story.  Plus it seems to fit in with all the more believable rumours we've heard.  Let's see if it's true  :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 20, 2011, 05:48:05 PM
I am very interested how DT was able to get ALL of the drummers to remain silent.

They made them an offer they couldn't refuse.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 20, 2011, 05:50:58 PM
I am very interested how DT was able to get ALL of the drummers to remain silent.

I assume they just asked them.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JPX on April 20, 2011, 06:22:46 PM
I'm sure the contract included a confidentiality clause.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 20, 2011, 06:26:43 PM
It's also really not that difficult to not tell everyone that you auditioned for DT. Especially if you're one of the people we think it is.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: OsMosis2259 on April 20, 2011, 07:22:21 PM
I can't wait for tomorrow  :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 20, 2011, 07:26:11 PM
i actually dont have anything to do tomorrow. waking up for this :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 20, 2011, 08:38:52 PM
I wonder what we'll know tomorrow :corn
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 20, 2011, 08:57:47 PM
It's the monumental fault of somebody that this information was not given to us sooner. Label people can be idiots.

And fans can be annoyingly impatient.

Nah. Plenty of time has passed. The time for patience is over.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 20, 2011, 09:30:08 PM
An interesting thing about the article was that it actually had inside information, obviously from one of the drummers on the list. The fact that they were negative on the whole event makes me wonder whether at least that particular drummer didn't like how this went down.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 20, 2011, 09:32:44 PM
The spin in that article is overwhelmingly rude. I don't see how it could possibly be disrespectful or ill-advised of DT to have done it that way.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 20, 2011, 09:36:29 PM
How is it rude? Can you not put yourself into the shoes of a drummer who, only in order to audition for a band, has to create and hand over significant amount of video tape of himself, with zero subsequent control over how this is released and presented?
I'm writing this off as "tough luck, it's music business", but I'm sure all of us would grind our teeth handing over those tapes and signing the contract.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 20, 2011, 09:38:21 PM
Hmm. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens tomorrow to get more perspective...oh wait.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 20, 2011, 09:49:53 PM
I just read that article again and looked at the list of drummers there, and I'm now questioning its sources. It kinda reads they got their info from DTF, seriously (aren't we "close to the source", so to speak?). And the bizarre inclusion of Aquiles Priester in that list makes me wonder whether there isn't some truth to the notion.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 20, 2011, 09:51:13 PM
I just read that article again and looked at the list of drummers there, and I'm now questioning its sources. It kinda reads they got their info from DTF, seriously. And the bizarre inclusion of Aquiles Priester in that list makes me wonder whether there isn't some truth to the notion.

rumborak

Yea it looks like someone has no sources, the once source they mentioned at the beginning was obviously that DJ guy who's name escapes me. So it's probably just a person ranting.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: atmyne on April 20, 2011, 10:08:57 PM
It kinda reads they got their info from DTF,
exactly what I thought.
Also, the article states that Peter Wildoer was one of the people who auditioned...
Peter Wildoer said he was not asked to audition...

-__-
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 20, 2011, 10:23:58 PM
I just read that article again and looked at the list of drummers there, and I'm now questioning its sources. It kinda reads they got their info from DTF, seriously (aren't we "close to the source", so to speak?). And the bizarre inclusion of Aquiles Priester in that list makes me wonder whether there isn't some truth to the notion.

rumborak

yeah, when I saw Aquiles, that made me think it was not sound
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 20, 2011, 10:58:09 PM
It was funny when I saw all those guys mentioned.

Either way less then 12 hours to go...gonna wake up and see what the hubub is.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 20, 2011, 11:00:57 PM
So just to make sure I'm good, it's 11am ET and 10am CT?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Chino on April 21, 2011, 05:53:09 AM
I is excite.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nihil-Morari on April 21, 2011, 05:53:32 AM
3 hours to go, Amirite?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 21, 2011, 05:54:42 AM
3 hours! I can't wait!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jonny108 on April 21, 2011, 05:56:21 AM
3 Hours, oh wowowowowowwwow.  :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Orion1967 on April 21, 2011, 06:01:57 AM
3 hours to go....  I think I am getting a chubby! :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 21, 2011, 06:04:10 AM
3 hours.  East coast representin' Bitches!! :metal :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Chino on April 21, 2011, 06:12:25 AM
3 hours until DTF crashes with traffic.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MajorMatt on April 21, 2011, 06:21:44 AM
:corn
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: unspoken on April 21, 2011, 07:12:59 AM
1 hour and 47 minutes left...biatches  :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 21, 2011, 07:14:07 AM
Can't wait!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: unspoken on April 21, 2011, 07:17:15 AM
1 hour and 47 minutes left...biatches  :metal

...until the "sign-up-here-to-eventually-at-any-time-in-this-life-or-the-other-receive-an-official-hint-on-who-will-be-the-new-drummer" event!!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: cyberdrummer on April 21, 2011, 07:32:41 AM
JR: "In one hour and a half sign up ... to our Dream Theater Facebook page and get to see the audition process!"
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jonny108 on April 21, 2011, 07:37:12 AM
This beginning to get tense  :) Time is moving very slowly  :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 07:57:31 AM
1 hour wooooooooooooo
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheMadgician on April 21, 2011, 08:00:51 AM
i am an excite
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 21, 2011, 08:12:26 AM
From JR's status, it sounds like we'll actually see the auditions today. But who knows.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 08:14:26 AM
This place is about to become bumpin'.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Chino on April 21, 2011, 08:14:51 AM
link to the fb page?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 08:16:56 AM
https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Dream-Theater/7677942180
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jsem on April 21, 2011, 08:17:04 AM
So what exactly is going to happen on facebook? I don't get it. Are they gonna post vids of the auditions?

They're gonna announce the drummer, right?  :lol

I'm lost....
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 08:18:23 AM
JR says on his new Tweet that we get to "see the audition process".
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 21, 2011, 08:18:50 AM
jsem: We are signing up to an exclusive mailing list. Either we will just be signing up today, or we will see the audition videos today (or maybe even just a preview of the audition videos). We may find out today or soon through the mailing list when and how they will announce the drummer.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 08:19:24 AM
Honestly, I'm expecting something super funny and like that episode of South Park where the boys audition for a new friend, and they end up doing a The Bachelor-type parody to narrow it down.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jsem on April 21, 2011, 08:19:47 AM
So... I guess I'll sign up to facebook with fake info and put my email on the mailing list..??
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 08:20:21 AM
There appears to be a fair amount of bogus info in that "article."
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 21, 2011, 08:20:47 AM
So... I guess I'll sign up to facebook with fake info and put my email on the mailing list..??

Yeah man, you have 40 minutes and it doesn't take long at all...it'd be worth it. :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JPX on April 21, 2011, 08:24:57 AM
Who else is ready for an anti-climax?!?!?!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tick on April 21, 2011, 08:25:49 AM
Off to work now. I'll be back in about 8 hours to find out what all the fuss is about.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 21, 2011, 08:26:11 AM
Who else is ready for an anti-climax?!?!?!

Every girl I've ever slept with!

Oh wait...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: unspoken on April 21, 2011, 08:28:03 AM
pull my finger....pull my finger....pull my finger i need to fart.... :P :P
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 08:30:32 AM
If you want to pass the time, watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRGljemfwUE&feature=related
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: cyberdrummer on April 21, 2011, 08:34:44 AM
Roadrunner on Twitter: "Everyone ready for the Dream Theater video we're posting in a half hour?"
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 21, 2011, 08:35:16 AM
Sweet! It will be a video. :caffeine:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 21, 2011, 08:36:24 AM
Everyone just chill out and listen to Octavarium now. By the time it's done, we'll be good to go.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 08:38:33 AM
I completely forgot about how I used to measure time in octavariums.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheMadgician on April 21, 2011, 08:43:37 AM
Roadrunner on Twitter: "Everyone ready for the Dream Theater video we're posting in a half hour?"

I just made some unusual sound of excitement that I'm not sure how to describe
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 08:43:57 AM
From JR's status, it sounds like we'll actually see the auditions today. But who knows.

Thats what i took out of it as well.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 08:45:19 AM
The new RoadRunner one explicitly states a video will be posted.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 21, 2011, 08:47:01 AM
Roadrunner on Twitter: "Everyone ready for the Dream Theater video we're posting in a half hour?"

I just made some unusual sound of excitement that I'm not sure how to describe

Welcome to puberty, home of the orgasms
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheMadgician on April 21, 2011, 08:48:33 AM
Roadrunner on Twitter: "Everyone ready for the Dream Theater video we're posting in a half hour?"

I just made some unusual sound of excitement that I'm not sure how to describe

Welcome to puberty, home of the orgasms

But girls are icky!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jsem on April 21, 2011, 08:49:05 AM
11 minutes!!1
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tri.ad on April 21, 2011, 08:49:26 AM
I completely forgot about this today. Glad I could make it in time. Although I don't expect too much.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Bone_Daddy on April 21, 2011, 08:49:55 AM
Who else is ready for an anti-climax?!?!?!

I agree. Just waiting for the release of the new album.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 08:50:35 AM
Heh, imagine if it was all the new album details too. Or a music video/single.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JPX on April 21, 2011, 08:50:50 AM
The new RoadRunner one explicitly states a video will be posted.

Hopefully it's about MorphWiz!!!!  :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 08:51:32 AM
Get out.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jonny108 on April 21, 2011, 08:52:13 AM
8 MINS!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 08:52:58 AM
11:00am is probably when they'll start the upload.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheMadgician on April 21, 2011, 08:53:54 AM
WHOA IS THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 21, 2011, 08:54:25 AM
The new RoadRunner one explicitly states a video will be posted.

Hopefully it's about MorphWiz!!!!  :metal :metal :metal

*eye twitch*
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 08:54:41 AM
Someone take this goon outside.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 08:54:53 AM
Oh man, I hope this isn't a promotional video for the announcement. You know, in American deep-bass announcer style: "GET READY FOR A DEEP VIEW INTO THE AUDITION PROCESS OF THE MOST NOTORIOUS PROG METAL...."

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 21, 2011, 08:55:27 AM
five minutes! :caffeine:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jonny108 on April 21, 2011, 08:56:31 AM
Oh man, I hope this isn't a promotional video for the announcement. You know, in American deep-bass announcer style: "GET READY FOR A DEEP VIEW INTO THE AUDITION PROCESS OF THE MOST NOTORIOUS PROG METAL...."

rumborak


I think I'd cry
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 21, 2011, 08:56:47 AM
This is epic. The Octavarium I started playing 20 minutes ago is now in its finale, as I ride into Facebook and prepare to check the drummer announcement.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jsem on April 21, 2011, 08:57:10 AM
About 4 minutes left of Trial of Tears... 3 min til drummer announcement
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 08:57:25 AM
AHHHH GUYS LOOK
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: darkshot on April 21, 2011, 08:57:47 AM
Oh man, I hope this isn't a promotional video for the announcement. You know, in American deep-bass announcer style: "GET READY FOR A DEEP VIEW INTO THE AUDITION PROCESS OF THE MOST NOTORIOUS PROG METAL...."

rumborak


Oh god I hope not... but I can totally see that happening.  They have already blown this way out of proportion, whats stopping them from going all out...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheMadgician on April 21, 2011, 08:58:22 AM
Two minutes and I have to poop :(
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jsem on April 21, 2011, 08:58:42 AM
hold it in!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 08:59:00 AM
POOP WHERE YE SITS
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 08:59:47 AM
The undies will hold in in. Unless you are going commando today.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 21, 2011, 09:00:08 AM
DRUM ROLL PLEASE
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 09:00:16 AM
Its up!!

EDIT: NEVERMIND!!! >O
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 09:00:26 AM
Nothing!!

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:00:43 AM
Its up!!

I AM THE TROLL HERE NOT YOU.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jonny108 on April 21, 2011, 09:00:48 AM
Two minutes and I have to poop :(

Tighten your bumhole!!!!!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MajorMatt on April 21, 2011, 09:01:00 AM
inb4 shitstorm
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 09:01:15 AM
Well, it's 11:01.....

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tri.ad on April 21, 2011, 09:01:34 AM
Damn, those commenters on Facebook are horribly laughable.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Deve on April 21, 2011, 09:01:44 AM
SOMEONE POST IT HERE POST IT HERE I CAN'T ACCESS FACEBOOK FROM MY SCHOOL'S WIFI AGH
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 21, 2011, 09:01:50 AM
I don't see it!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 09:02:04 AM
So if they are trying to send a message to everyone that is their fan, we'll never get it.  Facebook always chokes when you try to send mass messages.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 21, 2011, 09:02:08 AM
Hahahaha. Big countdown, everyone getting excited, and when the counter reaches zero... nothing happens. Precisely bugger all.

It's like New Years' Day!

(Give it ten minutes. q: )
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:02:16 AM
SOMEONE POST IT HERE POST IT HERE I CAN'T ACCESS FACEBOOK FROM MY SCHOOL'S WIFI AGH

LOL
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: theusualmadness on April 21, 2011, 09:02:24 AM
Its past 11 and nothing...lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 09:02:47 AM
Pft. I'm getting a coffee now.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:02:58 AM
my clock STILL says 10:59
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 21, 2011, 09:03:07 AM
here is it!!
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dream-Theater/7677942180?sk=app_108468622525037
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: unspoken on April 21, 2011, 09:03:10 AM
There's a link at the left column called Drummerdoc, click there then click to join and you will have to grant your FB with access to some Dream Theater app and...there it is....you are subscribed and get to see a 3 minute video
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MajorMatt on April 21, 2011, 09:03:35 AM
just waiting for a twitter update from JR saying 'loljk' :P
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Cool Chris on April 21, 2011, 09:03:56 AM
Quote
Access Denied (policy_denied)

Your system policy has denied access to the requested URL. 
Your request was denied because of its content categorization: "Radio/Audio Streams" 


AHHHHH FUCK YOU EMPLOYER!

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MajorMatt on April 21, 2011, 09:04:20 AM
There's a link at the left column called Drummerdoc, click there then click to join and you will have to grant your FB with access to some Dream Theater app and...there it is....you are subscribed and get to see a 3 minute video

BOOM
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 09:04:33 AM
A crummy commercial.  Son of a bitch!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kartmaze2 on April 21, 2011, 09:04:37 AM
A lot of the FB people will be disappointed when DT isn't announcing the drummer. One will only be able to subscribe to a mailing list...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:05:32 AM
LOL THEY'RE USING PORTNOY SONGS
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JPX on April 21, 2011, 09:05:41 AM
Harry: Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?
Lloyd: I just figured she was a raging alcoholic.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chknptpie on April 21, 2011, 09:06:50 AM
Can someone list the drummers in the vid? I don't know what people look like haha
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lateralus88 on April 21, 2011, 09:07:20 AM
Rumby called it.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:07:28 AM
OMFG THAT WAS AMAZING AND THE CLIFFHANGER

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 09:07:31 AM
Yeah what is the confirmed list of drummers?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 21, 2011, 09:07:39 AM
Uh, where's the info? We still don't know when it'll be announced!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 21, 2011, 09:07:43 AM
oh that is going to make people mad for so many reasons. though i quite liked it

'The Dream'

Wednesdays on FOX after American Idol.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: cookienut on April 21, 2011, 09:07:56 AM
Its a FAIL - Coming Soon

Saw all the drummers though.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: darkshot on April 21, 2011, 09:08:01 AM
this totally feels like the trailer for a dumb reality show -_-
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jirpo on April 21, 2011, 09:08:06 AM
Saw the video! Nothing new announced, don't worry. The drummers faces were shown, I can't recognise most of them. Basically just the band talking and someone narrating. Nothing too interesting, but very cool to watch, and the countdown was fun :D
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 21, 2011, 09:08:11 AM
Oh man, I hope this isn't a promotional video for the announcement. You know, in American deep-bass announcer style: "GET READY FOR A DEEP VIEW INTO THE AUDITION PROCESS OF THE MOST NOTORIOUS PROG METAL...."

rumborak


It was but it was cool.  I need to see more videos of the process now.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:08:14 AM
THE SPIRIT CARRIES ON. IT'S A FUCKING MOVIE. THEY MADE US A MOVIE AND THAT'S WHY THEY DIDN'T JUST TELL US. BECAUSE THEY'RE FUCKING BADASSES AND I LOVE THEM AND THEY LOVE US.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 21, 2011, 09:08:20 AM
its not letting me watch the vid... I subscribe but it just shows me a black screen
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jsem on April 21, 2011, 09:08:47 AM
LOLOLOLOLOL

What a waste of time this was.. ah well. Typical promo vid.

I want more.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 09:09:09 AM
Was one of those guys Priester?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: changing_seasons on April 21, 2011, 09:09:19 AM
It almost looks like one of the songs played on the auditions was The Count of Tuscany.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 21, 2011, 09:09:30 AM
I thought it was a decent video

Lang looked like he was enjoying himself. It'd be cool if it was him
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Chino on April 21, 2011, 09:09:52 AM
FFFFFFUUUUUUU STILL NO DRUMMER!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MuumiPeikko on April 21, 2011, 09:10:24 AM
Just watched the video.

Shame on me - I only recognize Virgil Donati  :-\
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:10:40 AM
You people are unbelievable. LOOK AT THIS AWESOME FUCKING THING THEY GAVE US. For fuck's sake.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 21, 2011, 09:11:03 AM
So does anyone think "The Spirit Carries On" might be the name of the new album?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lateralus88 on April 21, 2011, 09:11:27 AM
So does anyone think "The Spirit Carries On" might be the name of the new album?
Nope.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: theusualmadness on April 21, 2011, 09:11:38 AM
They said we would know when the drummer announcement would be made. I have not seen this yet, watched the commercial though.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: unspoken on April 21, 2011, 09:11:44 AM
WOW...Justin Bieber rocked those drums!!!!! ........



Just kidding
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kartmaze2 on April 21, 2011, 09:11:51 AM
I recognized Lang, Priester, Minnemann and probably Mangini and MAYBE Wildoer.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Chino on April 21, 2011, 09:11:52 AM
You people are unbelievable. LOOK AT THIS AWESOME FUCKING THING THEY GAVE US. For fuck's sake.

No. It's crap.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ZBomber on April 21, 2011, 09:12:10 AM
lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 09:12:20 AM
hahahaha so Priester did audition!?  hahahahahahahaha so funny and ironic.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 21, 2011, 09:12:26 AM
You people are unbelievable. LOOK AT THIS AWESOME FUCKING THING THEY GAVE US. For fuck's sake.

i think that only makes two of us who liked it

i think all the cheesyness is on RR's end
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aquila Chrysaetos on April 21, 2011, 09:12:35 AM
Nice!!
I think it was indeed Priester there!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 09:12:59 AM
Was one of those guys Priester?

Yes.  And I'm genuinely shocked.


Good video, by the way.  But I was cracking up watching it and thinking about rumborak's post.  @rumby for totally calling that one:

o/
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Rafael Guerra on April 21, 2011, 09:13:18 AM
Amazing video! I cannot wait.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kartmaze2 on April 21, 2011, 09:13:25 AM
Was one of those guys Priester?

Yes.  And I'm shocked.

So am I.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: The Presence of Frenemies on April 21, 2011, 09:13:56 AM
So does anyone think "The Spirit Carries On" might be the name of the new album?

Haha, I can only imagine. Metropolis Part 3: The Spirit Carries On.

In which Nicholas and the hypnotherapist are reincarnated as the Count of Tuscany and his BRUTHAAAA.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 09:14:05 AM
all bets could possibly be off?  Although given all the leaks that now appear to have actually been pretty accurate.  I am willing to believe its Mangini for sure.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 21, 2011, 09:14:12 AM
Was one of those guys Priester?

Yes.  And I'm shocked.

 :rollin
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: skydivingninja on April 21, 2011, 09:14:55 AM
Well the video itself was a bit cheesy and if we were only waiting to hear the announcement so RR could make this really bombastic video about the process, then I'm a bit peeved that we had to wait so long. That being said I'm incredibly excited to see some footage and get one step closer to finding out who it is!

However, wtf?  Priester did actually audition?  HUH?  (I'm taking your word for it guys, I didn't recognize most of the people outside of Minnemann, Lang, Wildoer, and Donati)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jirpo on April 21, 2011, 09:15:03 AM
You people are unbelievable. LOOK AT THIS AWESOME FUCKING THING THEY GAVE US. For fuck's sake.

i think that only makes two of us who liked it

i think all the cheesyness is on RR's end
I liked it. I knew it wasn't going to be anything huge to begin with, so I didn't get too excited. I just took the video for what it was, and it was good to see the guys looking happy and to see all the drummers.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisgazpacho on April 21, 2011, 09:15:32 AM
I recognized Lang, Priester, Minnemann and probably Mangini and MAYBE Wildoer.

Mangini is the one who threw his sticks in the air.

So is this going to be a full on doc?  Seems WAY to produced for a 3min promo clip for YouTube.  Very well done.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 21, 2011, 09:16:09 AM
I honestly liked the video. A bit cheesy but hey, whatever. Getting some insight into the auditions, which is what everyone wants.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nikatapi on April 21, 2011, 09:16:21 AM
I am mostly shocked about Derek Roddy. I didn't imagine he could be one of the candidates, mostly because he is more extreme metal oriented. He is a great drummer, it will be interesting to see him play some DT songs.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 09:16:24 AM
Looks like they will probably keep leaking out videos over the next few days/weeks.  More and more information on the process.  This could take us right up to the release of the new album possibly.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2011, 09:16:31 AM
So I recognized Mangini, Minneman, Lang, Priester (damnit), and I think Donati. Who were the other guys for sure?


Also, I loved the vid, it was the perfect first promo vid.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Raziel666 on April 21, 2011, 09:16:33 AM
Now I can laugh with all those "Priester? No fckn' way!" responses.

P.s. The video shows a black screen here... :/
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 21, 2011, 09:16:36 AM
I hope they release videos of each drummer.  I love in the studio/jamming stuff.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 09:16:37 AM
Was one of those guys Priester?

Yes.  And I'm genuinely shocked.


Good video, by the way.  But I was cracking up watching it and thinking about rumborak's post.  @rumby for totally calling that one:

o/

\o

Booya, I know!! :lol

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:16:40 AM
You people are unbelievable. LOOK AT THIS AWESOME FUCKING THING THEY GAVE US. For fuck's sake.

No. It's crap.

No, it's not. Get out.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lateralus88 on April 21, 2011, 09:16:58 AM
I have a feeling that I'm going to feel underwhelmed regardless of who the drummer is.



I mean, unless they got that kid from The Naked Brothers Band. That'd be worth the wait.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: unspoken on April 21, 2011, 09:17:17 AM
I compare that video to having a young hot girlfriend strip in front of you and then telling you that you'll have to wait until marriage to finally bang her! (not describing a personal experience, though)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 21, 2011, 09:17:19 AM
It was awesome. I'm sure we'll know who's the new drummer in a week or two.  :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DreamerTV on April 21, 2011, 09:17:30 AM
A crummy commercial.



Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Chino on April 21, 2011, 09:17:41 AM
I recognized Lang, Priester, Minnemann and probably Mangini and MAYBE Wildoer.

Mangini is the one who threw his sticks in the air.

So is this going to be a full on doc?  Seems WAY to produced for a 3min promo clip for YouTube.  Very well done.

Seeing as DT fans love buying video anything of the band, I bet this turns into a legit doc. My guess is it will be part of a limited edition release of the new album, or you could buy it exclusively at a DT concert.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:18:17 AM
This is why I don't hang out with Dream Theater fans IRL
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lodeus on April 21, 2011, 09:19:12 AM
Looked like a trailer for documentary.

I thought it was good though. Wonder we'll get to see the next video?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheMadgician on April 21, 2011, 09:19:23 AM
That was kinda fucking awesome. My only qualm was I didn't see a date for the DVD(?) which was promised to us. Doesn't lessen my excitement though.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 09:19:33 AM
This is why I don't hang out with Dream Theater fans IRL

The video told us nothing new.  It turns out Steve Theater was pretty much right on MONTHS ago.  The video was just a promo vid.  No insight at all was given.  My guess is there is going to be a lot of follow up videos being released.  And more and more will be revealed over time.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: darkshot on April 21, 2011, 09:19:50 AM
Now cue all the overanalyzing of this promo video: OMG Mangini was in the video the longest, at least 10% longer than anyone else that must be the answer!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:19:55 AM
Is anybody else... liking the fact that James LaBrie appears to be the new frontman? I love it.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Bone_Daddy on April 21, 2011, 09:20:10 AM
Love some of the comments on FB:

Tinaandgreg Whitaker wrote:

Tinaandgreg Whitaker: So who the Fuck is the drummer? Stop Fucking around!!!

LOL

This drummer hype may be milked for some time. Big deal. Looking forward to how the album will sound.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 09:20:24 AM
Man. I'm not so much into that "America's, err, DT's next top drummer" thing I have to say.

rumborka
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 21, 2011, 09:20:46 AM
Stupid. I joined and yet can't see the video. It says you must join to watch. I'm at my screen " I just did. WTF?"
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lithium112 on April 21, 2011, 09:20:52 AM
its not letting me watch the vid... I subscribe but it just shows me a black screen

You have to turn off your "use facebook in https" setting. It's bullshit.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:21:01 AM
RUMBORKA
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: YtseJamittaja on April 21, 2011, 09:21:12 AM
So...

Mangini
Minnemann
Wildoer
Lang
Priester
Donati

But who is that 7th?? I don't know him.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lateralus88 on April 21, 2011, 09:21:18 AM
Is anybody else... liking the fact that James LaBrie appears to be the new frontman? I love it.
Please. Go on. Continue speculating, it's hilarious.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lodeus on April 21, 2011, 09:21:34 AM
Is anybody else... liking the fact that James LaBrie appears to be the new frontman? I love it.

Thats one thing about MPs departure that I'm gonna like.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:21:37 AM
its not letting me watch the vid... I subscribe but it just shows me a black screen

You have to turn off your "use facebook in https" setting. It's bullshit.

YEAH! Changing a setting on a computer that takes two seconds is BULLSHIT!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: OptionalPlayer on April 21, 2011, 09:21:42 AM
Is anybody else... liking the fact that James LaBrie appears to be the new frontman? I love it.

This. It's pretty bad-ass.

As for the video, it felt like a trailer for a reality show. Which is okay, because it felt like Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares for some reason. (The UK version, of course).
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 09:21:44 AM
RUMBORKA

That's how upset I am!!!!! :lol

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Infinite Cactus on April 21, 2011, 09:22:03 AM
I thought it was pretty awesome. I'm pretty excited for audition videos or a documentary to come out of this.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:22:15 AM
Is anybody else... liking the fact that James LaBrie appears to be the new frontman? I love it.
Please. Go on. Continue speculating, it's hilarious.

Ass
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 09:22:23 AM
RUMBORKA

That's how upset I am!!!!! :lol

rumborak


I don't get it.  What happened?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 21, 2011, 09:23:10 AM
YOU WILL SHUT YOUR MOUTHS AND LIKE THIS.


this is gonna be slammed everywhere, seeing as it wont even go over at a DT forum.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 09:23:17 AM
Quote
Bill Niehoff

Bill Niehoff This has been dragged out far too long. Is Ryan Seacrest managing them now?

:rollin
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lateralus88 on April 21, 2011, 09:23:24 AM
Is anybody else... liking the fact that James LaBrie appears to be the new frontman? I love it.
Please. Go on. Continue speculating, it's hilarious.

Ass
Is that some personal attack?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 21, 2011, 09:23:42 AM
RUMBORKA

That's how upset I am!!!!! :lol

rumborak


Early drinking day I see. :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Orion1967 on April 21, 2011, 09:23:47 AM
Looked like a trailer for documentary.

I thought it was good though. Wonder we'll get to see the next video?

Yeah I would agree with this.  The production seemed solid, I recognized Mangini, Minnemann, Wildoer and Lang.   other guys I was like "WHo?".   WOuld be cool if we could get a definitive list put together of everyone that appeared in the video.

I was kind of hoping form more than just a commercial though tbqh. but oh well. It was something.  Personally I'd likke to see some USA tour dates get posted...  As much as I'd love to fly to Europe for a concert, I just dont have that kind of scratch...

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: renegate on April 21, 2011, 09:24:04 AM
What were you guys waiting for? This is promo at its best. We'll get to see an indepth look at the auditions. We are incredibly lucky as fans!! They could have just said: "Our drummer is Mike Mangini, alright lets move on!" But no, they're allowing us to share these special moments they had when looking for a new drummer.

I've got to say: Never Enough. As usual.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 21, 2011, 09:24:31 AM
Man. I'm not so much into that "America's, err, DT's next top drummer" thing I have to say.

rumborka

I don't see it like that. I think it is a original and fun way for us to know who got the gig, rather than a simple press release mentionning 'X is our new drummer'
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 21, 2011, 09:24:52 AM
1. Mike Mangini 2. Thomas Lang 3. Virgil Donati 4. Marco Minnemann 5. Aquiles Priester 6. Derek Roddy 7. Peter Wildoer.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 09:24:53 AM
I can't believe they really had Priester in the auditions.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lithium112 on April 21, 2011, 09:25:04 AM
YEAH! Changing a setting on a computer that takes two seconds is BULLSHIT!
It's bullshit because that application does not conform to the same security standards. Anything that makes you downgrade your security level in order to use is inherently poorly made.

To clarify: this is a complaint about the app, not DT or the video. The video was awesome and it was cool to see all the drummers. Even Priester.. lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:26:17 AM
What were you guys waiting for? This is promo at its best. We'll get to see an indepth look at the auditions. We are incredibly lucky as fans!! They could have just said: "Our drummer is Mike Mangini, alright lets move on!" But no, they're allowing us to share these special moments they had when looking for a new drummer.

I've got to say: Never Enough. As usual.

I was with you until you touted Never Enough.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bodiesinflight on April 21, 2011, 09:27:10 AM
the video doesn't work for me. what happens?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: renegate on April 21, 2011, 09:27:31 AM
What were you guys waiting for? This is promo at its best. We'll get to see an indepth look at the auditions. We are incredibly lucky as fans!! They could have just said: "Our drummer is Mike Mangini, alright lets move on!" But no, they're allowing us to share these special moments they had when looking for a new drummer.

I've got to say: Never Enough. As usual.

I was with you until you touted Never Enough.

I had to.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lateralus88 on April 21, 2011, 09:27:58 AM
the video doesn't work for me. what happens?
Nothing ground breaking.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaperKK on April 21, 2011, 09:28:53 AM
I can't believe they really had Priester in the auditions.

rumborak


This but then again they know what's best for the band. I'll be watching these videos and rooting for Lang even though it's probably not him, I'm still hoping it is!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tri.ad on April 21, 2011, 09:29:02 AM
Alright, so I watched it. Not too impressed, it relies on this cliffhanger thing way too much. If there's a full documentary, I bet it's going to be found on the new album (or rather the special edition of it).
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MajorMatt on April 21, 2011, 09:29:29 AM
I hope they release videos of each drummer.  I love in the studio/jamming stuff.

It would be interesting if they did this, one a day/week eliminating a drummer each time, leading up to the eventual announcement of the new album's art, track listing and drummer. Then release the full documentary with an LE version of the album.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Raziel666 on April 21, 2011, 09:29:53 AM
So, the video is named: Dream_Theater-Drummer_Doc_Trailer_v3

I guess there are other versions as well, since this is tagged _v3?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:30:10 AM
OH FUCK. OH SHIT  :omg:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 21, 2011, 09:30:13 AM
How long till its on Youtube. Can't see it on phone.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Bill Carson on April 21, 2011, 09:30:31 AM
So do you reckon Mangini got it to keep the band all american...I mean over the likes of Marco, Lang & Donati in particular ?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 21, 2011, 09:30:45 AM
My favourite bit:

Some people being disappointed that they didn't reveal the name of the new drummer, on a day they weren't planning to announce the name of the new drummer.

Very good promo. And a full length feature on it! Looks really well directed.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nickel on April 21, 2011, 09:31:22 AM
1. Mike Mangini 2. Thomas Lang 3. Virgil Donati 4. Marco Minnemann 5. Aquiles Priester 6. Derek Roddy 7. Peter Wildoer.

Thanks, jdprsaga!  I didn't recognize anyone in the video and so I was putting together a master list like this based on everyone else's posts and I got the same list as you.

-nickel
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tri.ad on April 21, 2011, 09:32:08 AM
Well, at least this video inspired me to listen to TCOT again. :biggrin:

And despite what I said in the previous post, I quite liked it. I hope for a full documentary, but the style of the video... Borderline ridiculous. :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 09:32:27 AM
Was one of those guys Priester?

Yes.  And I'm genuinely shocked.


Good video, by the way.  But I was cracking up watching it and thinking about rumborak's post.  @rumby for totally calling that one:

o/

\o

Booya, I know!! :lol

rumborak


If it wasn't for the fact that you predicted it right down to the cheesy, deep-voiced narrator, I wouldn't be laughing nearly as hard.  I'm STILL laughing!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2011, 09:33:09 AM
I have no idea what any of you expected. The album doesn't come out for months. If they just told us who the new drummer was, excitement would die off very quickly. This is a way to keep up excitement at least closer to their first show or when the album comes out. It's their first smart move in a very long time.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lodeus on April 21, 2011, 09:33:19 AM
Well, at least this video inspired me to listen to TCOT again. :biggrin:
Same here  :biggrin:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: YtseJamittaja on April 21, 2011, 09:33:46 AM
really, when we have had over 400 guests viewing any thread here??  :metal :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tri.ad on April 21, 2011, 09:35:30 AM
When MP left.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 21, 2011, 09:36:23 AM
Aniland, please cut it out.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 21, 2011, 09:37:02 AM
Anyone notice the lack of commentary by Myung?

If there is a full length documentary or what-have-you, I hope he actually says something
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: OsMosis2259 on April 21, 2011, 09:37:28 AM
I know this is asking for too much but can someone put the name of the drummer and then like a time stamp next to it...

I dont know who anyone is  :-\
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Rafael Guerra on April 21, 2011, 09:37:57 AM
I took a screenshot in the moment where one of the drummers is holding a letter. I'm trying to figure out what it says:

"To The World's Greatest Drummers, welcome to the auditions! We are sorry we don't have a practice room. But we do have something for you  to practice on - and doing so well provides instant glorification, the [something] inside!

Please attack this drum with the mallet we've provided, just as you are going to do for real in the studio! :)
Best wishes to an audition that blows everyone away!"

This is probably a FAIL transcription, feel free to help me out....if you have nothing better to do, like me.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 09:38:20 AM
Man. I'm not so much into that "America's, err, DT's next top drummer" thing I have to say.

rumborka

I don't see it like that. I think it is a original and fun way for us to know who got the gig, rather than a simple press release mentionning 'X is our new drummer'

Dunno. I mean, the letter each drummer got when they arrived? "Welcome to the Dream Theater auditions?" That's taken straight from America's Next Top Model and all those other reality shows. And James sitting behind the mixing board saying "we'd like to welcome you at this point to the family". That's exactly Ryan Seacrest style. "Drummer X ...... you are through to the next round."

Dunno, just saying.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 21, 2011, 09:38:37 AM
Anyone notice the lack of commentary by Myung?




how strange
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 09:40:05 AM
Was one of those guys Priester?

Yes.  And I'm genuinely shocked.


Good video, by the way.  But I was cracking up watching it and thinking about rumborak's post.  @rumby for totally calling that one:

o/

\o

Booya, I know!! :lol

rumborak


If it wasn't for the fact that you predicted it right down to the cheesy, deep-voiced narrator, I wouldn't be laughing nearly as hard.  I'm STILL laughing!

It just all fit together to me. I was like "noooooo, they better not do that!" :lol

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 09:40:12 AM
I have no idea what any of you expected. The album doesn't come out for months. If they just told us who the new drummer was, excitement would die off very quickly. This is a way to keep up excitement at least closer to their first show or when the album comes out. It's their first smart move in a very long time.

Yeah but why can't we just be excited for a new album like we usually are.  Why would excitement for a new album taper off?  It's a new album!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2011, 09:40:57 AM
I have no idea what any of you expected. The album doesn't come out for months. If they just told us who the new drummer was, excitement would die off very quickly. This is a way to keep up excitement at least closer to their first show or when the album comes out. It's their first smart move in a very long time.

Yeah but why can't we just be excited for a new album like we usually are.  Why would excitement for a new album taper off?  It's a new album!

Same reason excitement had already died off greatly before this video was announced.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:42:33 AM
Aniland, please cut it out.

As someone who is legitimately not instigating anything, lemme know what you want me to cut out? No disrespect.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 09:42:44 AM
I have no qualms with them stretching it out now, that's how they will maintain interest until the album comes out.
My only concern is that DT is joining in with other "illustrous" reality-TV bands like INXS etc.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 09:43:12 AM
They could have just told us who it was and so we could know and not have us strung along.  But now its clear, the reason for not hearing about anything was because they were filming a full on doc.  So they had to shoot and edit it.  I'm sure that's what the delay has been now.

Rumby makes a good point about the American Idol thing.  It does seem like all this shit was kinda played out for the camera.  I wonder if this was a road runner idea.  It seems like it was.  I dunno it gives me a bad feeling.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nikatapi on April 21, 2011, 09:44:05 AM
What is disappointing for me besides the whole reality-like atmosphere, is the lack of a date for the announcement.
"to find out exactly when and how the momentous announcement about the bandís new lineup will be made" was in the first announcement, yet we didn't get a date.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Chino on April 21, 2011, 09:44:29 AM
The drummer with the cookie monster shirt reminds me of Norm from Avatar.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 09:45:22 AM
Hmm facebook has stopped loading for me.  DT broke facebook.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 21, 2011, 09:45:53 AM
Aniland, please cut it out.

As someone who is legitimately not instigating anything, lemme know what you want me to cut out? No disrespect.
You've been spamming the blue fuck out of this thread with nonsensical posts, and called one other person an ass.  Just chill out a little, it's not a chat thread.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DreamerTV on April 21, 2011, 09:46:14 AM
When they're in the studio, at the end of the video, and James on the Phone says "...welcome you to the family" they're actually at Cove, aren't they? Do you think it's part of the script (of this sort of Talent Show) or may be right to think "he" wasn't there with them when they've written the music?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:46:37 AM
Yessir hef. :X Sorry.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jirpo on April 21, 2011, 09:47:37 AM
I took a screenshot in the moment where one of the drummers is holding a letter. I'm trying to figure out what it says:

"To The World's Greatest Drummers, welcome to the auditions! We are sorry we don't have a practice room. But we do have something for you  to practice on - and doing so well provides instant glorification, the [something] inside!

Please attack this drum with the mallet we've provided, just as you are going to do for real in the studio! :)
Best wishes to an audition that blows everyone away!"

This is probably a FAIL transcription, feel free to help me out....if you have nothing better to do, like me.
Cool, thanks for doing this :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 21, 2011, 09:48:10 AM
Yessir hef. :X Sorry.
:tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: italianoman on April 21, 2011, 09:48:39 AM
Interesting. The press release for the video on Monday specifically stated that we join the mailing list 4/21 "to receive more details about an exclusive and intimate look at the auditions, and to find out exactly when and how the momentous announcement about the bandís new lineup will be made." EXACTLY when and how? I joined, I watched and I have no clue when I'll find out...that part makes me angry. Other than that, cool beans.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nihil-Morari on April 21, 2011, 09:49:08 AM
Cool beans.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2011, 09:49:29 AM
I have no qualms with them stretching it out now, that's how they will maintain interest until the album comes out.
My only concern is that DT is joining in with other "illustrous" reality-TV bands like INXS etc.

rumborak


It will be a one time thing until the new album is released, then it will be back to business as usual. I also doubt DT is a big enough band to have it ruin their image. They're making the best out of the situation. I'm sure there's a more obscure way they could handle it, but what would be the point?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Chino on April 21, 2011, 09:49:35 AM
I'm pretty sure FB crashed.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 21, 2011, 09:50:45 AM
When they're in the studio, at the end of the video, and James on the Phone says "...welcome you to the family" they're actually at Cove, aren't they? Do you think it's part of the script (of this sort of Talent Show) or may be right to think "he" wasn't there with them when they've written the music?

Interesting question..
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: phentalmyst on April 21, 2011, 09:50:53 AM
So do you reckon Mangini got it to keep the band all american...I mean over the likes of Marco, Lang & Donati in particular ?

have you met their singer james? you know, the canadian?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ronrule on April 21, 2011, 09:51:20 AM
https://www.otenyc.com/index.html

The production company that made the video.  Click on News, then the DT Majesty logo.

"In October, OTE wrapped principle photography on a feature length documentary for legendary band Dream Theater."

. . .

"There will also be a one hour television premiere (Network TBD) that will announce the new drummer"

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Chino on April 21, 2011, 09:51:28 AM
So do you reckon Mangini got it to keep the band all american...I mean over the likes of Marco, Lang & Donati in particular ?

have you met their singer james? you know, the canadian?

What are you talking aboot?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2011, 09:51:35 AM
When they're in the studio, at the end of the video, and James on the Phone says "...welcome you to the family" they're actually at Cove, aren't they? Do you think it's part of the script (of this sort of Talent Show) or may be right to think "he" wasn't there with them when they've written the music?

They were in the control room, they could have easily gone in there to speak in privacy and then speaking through the control mic to let the drummer in the live room hear them. It's what happened in that movie Rock Star.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 09:53:52 AM
So the new drummer will be announced on TV during a 1 hour special.  WTF?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Chino on April 21, 2011, 09:54:14 AM
(https://img854.imageshack.us/img854/5673/dtdtdt.jpg)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tunnel Vision on April 21, 2011, 09:54:30 AM
https://www.otenyc.com/index.html

The production company that made the video.  Click on News, then the DT Majesty logo.

Holy shit, a one hour television premiere announcing the drummer? Wow
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 21, 2011, 09:55:17 AM
:caffeine:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Chino on April 21, 2011, 09:55:20 AM
Honestly, if all this secret keeping was over a TV promotional stunt, imma be pissed.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 21, 2011, 09:55:40 AM
Holy Jesus
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 21, 2011, 09:56:04 AM
When they're in the studio, at the end of the video, and James on the Phone says "...welcome you to the family" they're actually at Cove, aren't they? Do you think it's part of the script (of this sort of Talent Show) or may be right to think "he" wasn't there with them when they've written the music?

They were in the control room, they could have easily gone in there to speak in privacy and then speaking through the control mic to let the drummer in the live room hear them. It's what happened in that movie Rock Star.

Yeah.. but wasn't they @ cove until january?? i think the audition was not held on cove.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 09:56:07 AM
Honestly, if all this secret keeping was over a TV promotional stunt, imma be pissed.

I'm already pissed because that is quite obviously what this was all about.  DT is not that kind of band.  So what the hell is Road Runner doing to them?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tri.ad on April 21, 2011, 09:56:25 AM
Welp, there probably goes my theory about the release with the new album.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nikatapi on April 21, 2011, 09:56:40 AM
https://www.otenyc.com/index.html

The production company that made the video.  Click on News, then the DT Majesty logo.

"In October, OTE wrapped principle photography on a feature length documentary for legendary band Dream Theater."

. . .

"There will also be a one hour television premiere (Network TBD) that will announce the new drummer"



Pretty cool info, thanx for the link.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 09:56:52 AM
I wonder if this is going to be on any major networks or what?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: YtseJamittaja on April 21, 2011, 09:57:03 AM
"There will also be a one hour television premiere (Network TBD) that will announce the new drummer"

WOW!! Didn't see that coming! I really hope I can see it!!! :caffeine:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Global Laziness on April 21, 2011, 09:57:20 AM
What is disappointing for me besides the whole reality-like atmosphere, is the lack of a date for the announcement.
"to find out exactly when and how the momentous announcement about the bandís new lineup will be made" was in the first announcement, yet we didn't get a date.

Yeah, I was disappointed too. I mean, the video's cool and all, but couldn't we at least have got that three-minute clip a few months ago?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nickel on April 21, 2011, 09:58:23 AM
From here:  https://overtheedgeprod.blogspot.com/2011/01/movie-for-dream-theater.html

"In October, Over the Edge Production wrapped principle photography on a feature length documentary for the legendary band Dream Theater.  The movie is directed by Mike Leonard and sponsored by Roadrunner Records. In the film, we follow the bands journey after their drummer of 25 years, Mike Portnoy, leaves the band.  Now, 7 of the world's best drummers compete to be part of this legendary progressive-rock group.  We are currently in postproduction with the release expected in spring 2011.  In addition to a nation-wide release, the film is rumored to air on television as a 3-part mini-series (official details TBA).  Dream Theater fans are dying to know who the new drummer is, but it will be worth the wait. Soon fans will be able to watch history in the making through this highly anticipated movie."

-nickel
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: pogoowner on April 21, 2011, 09:58:43 AM
They're going all LeBron James on us now. :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 21, 2011, 09:59:22 AM
I wonder how long that has been on that site. Looks like it has been there for a long while :lol

EDIT: Holy crap, look at the Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/OverTheEdgeProd
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 09:59:33 AM
I have no qualms with them stretching it out now, that's how they will maintain interest until the album comes out.
My only concern is that DT is joining in with other "illustrous" reality-TV bands like INXS etc.

rumborak


It will be a one time thing until the new album is released, then it will be back to business as usual. I also doubt DT is a big enough band to have it ruin their image. They're making the best out of the situation. I'm sure there's a more obscure way they could handle it, but what would be the point?

Doesn't have too be "more obscure", just actual documentary, not reality-TV. Band documentaries have a long history and they can be really excellent. The choice to frame this whole thing as an American Idol audition rather irritates me. Sure, I will get over it, but I scratch my head at this choice.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 21, 2011, 09:59:40 AM
So, they filmed a one hour documentary that'll be shown on TV. Fuck yes.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: phentalmyst on April 21, 2011, 10:00:21 AM
DT is not that kind of band.  

DT apparently objects...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 21, 2011, 10:00:48 AM
I have no qualms with them stretching it out now, that's how they will maintain interest until the album comes out.
My only concern is that DT is joining in with other "illustrous" reality-TV bands like INXS etc.

rumborak

Joining in with bands who can market products to their fanbase cleverly is no bad thing.

If it was just a cheap, wasteful cash-in, I'd be a little cautious. As it is, it looks like a lavishly produced documentary feature, offering an in-depth view of a process that we've spent the last six months speculating about.

A band that takes care and expends effort in giving the fans a product that they'll be interested in receiving gets all the thumbs up from me. And, frankly, as ridiculous as the wait's been, I'd rather the news be delivered through the medium of a gorgeous, lengthy, in-depth examination of the most exciting process in the band's recent history, than through the medium of a press release tucked away on a Roadrunner Records website.

It creates publicity because it's good.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 21, 2011, 10:01:11 AM
I can only think of Vh1 and Eddie trunk
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mebert78 on April 21, 2011, 10:01:30 AM
Awesome video trailer.  I'm very excited and proud to be a DT fan.  Very classy and it's great to the the guys tackle this in such a creative way.  Thanks, DT!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2011, 10:01:43 AM
I have no qualms with them stretching it out now, that's how they will maintain interest until the album comes out.
My only concern is that DT is joining in with other "illustrous" reality-TV bands like INXS etc.

rumborak


It will be a one time thing until the new album is released, then it will be back to business as usual. I also doubt DT is a big enough band to have it ruin their image. They're making the best out of the situation. I'm sure there's a more obscure way they could handle it, but what would be the point?

I'll admit showing it on TV is a very odd idea that I don't know if I can get behind, but the typical drama imposed in this? I Don't see the problem. It's a trailer, it's only purpose is to get people excited. A simple unbiased documentary wouldn't do that for most people, they took the easy way out, but considering what they're doing, I don't think it matters which way they took out. As I said, it will all be over in a few months at most, this isn't a prolonged thing.

Doesn't have too be "more obscure", just actual documentary, not reality-TV. Band documentaries have a long history and they can be really excellent. The choice to frame this whole thing as an American Idol audition rather irritates me. Sure, I will get over it, but I scratch my head at this choice.

rumborak

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 21, 2011, 10:02:00 AM
I have no qualms with them stretching it out now, that's how they will maintain interest until the album comes out.
My only concern is that DT is joining in with other "illustrous" reality-TV bands like INXS etc.

rumborak

Joining in with bands who can market products to their fanbase cleverly is no bad thing.

If it was just a cheap, wasteful cash-in, I'd be a little cautious. As it is, it looks like a lavishly produced documentary feature, offering an in-depth view of a process that we've spent the last six months speculating about.

A band that takes care and expends effort in giving the fans a product that they'll be interested in receiving gets all the thumbs up from me. And, frankly, as ridiculous as the wait's been, I'd rather the news be delivered through the medium of a gorgeous, lengthy, in-depth examination of the most exciting process in the band's recent history, than through the medium of a press release tucked away on a Roadrunner Records website.

It creates publicity because it's good.
Words of wisdom. As usual.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 21, 2011, 10:02:36 AM
I wonder how long that has been on that site. Looks like it has been there for a long while :lol

EDIT: Holy crap, look at the Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/OverTheEdgeProd

Quoted so it's not lost. Really mindblowing that this has been on the Internet all this time.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: OsMosis2259 on April 21, 2011, 10:02:47 AM
(https://img854.imageshack.us/img854/5673/dtdtdt.jpg)


 :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nickel on April 21, 2011, 10:03:03 AM
I think it's kind of funny that today's Facebook video doesn't tell us anything that we wouldn't have already known if only we had stumbled across the production company's blog back in January!!  I mean... between Over The Edge Productions' blog and twitter feed, we all should've already known all this.   :o

-nickel
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Bill Carson on April 21, 2011, 10:03:38 AM
Well atleast we now know what the hold up was !
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: unspoken on April 21, 2011, 10:03:51 AM
I wonder how long that has been on that site. Looks like it has been there for a long while :lol

EDIT: Holy crap, look at the Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/OverTheEdgeProd

LOL @ Dream Theatre ....i dunno if that was misspelled on purpose, but that actually prevented those tweets from appearing whenever I searched for Dream Theater on tweeter
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 21, 2011, 10:04:07 AM
uh oh
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jirpo on April 21, 2011, 10:04:53 AM
Yeah, how has no-one discovered that? :D
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 21, 2011, 10:05:01 AM
Also this: https://www.facebook.com/notes/over-the-edge-productions/a-movie-for-dream-theater/199593820056942
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 21, 2011, 10:05:15 AM
This goes back as far as January. I am ashamed of us.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Raziel666 on April 21, 2011, 10:05:30 AM
I wonder how long that has been on that site. Looks like it has been there for a long while :lol

EDIT: Holy crap, look at the Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/OverTheEdgeProd

Actually, since January 28, 2011.

So this TV thing means that us outside the US won't be able to watch? :/
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tjanuranus on April 21, 2011, 10:05:51 AM
In addition to a nation-wide release, the film is rumored to air on television as a 3-part mini-series (official details TBA).

So national release? In Theaters?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 10:06:08 AM
I'll admit showing it on TV is a very odd idea that I don't know if I can get behind, but the typical drama imposed in this? I Don't see the problem. It's a trailer, it's only purpose is to get people excited. A simple unbiased documentary wouldn't do that for most people, they took the easy way out, but considering what they're doing, I don't think it matters which way they took out. As I said, it will all be over in a few months at most, this isn't a prolonged thing.

If they're just having fun with this, that's cool. The fear is that with this AI-style stuff, a 3-episode mini-series etc., DT is maybe taking the "next step" in their career.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jsem on April 21, 2011, 10:06:32 AM
Aired... on AMERICAN TV? That is some serious crap right there. Hopefully it'll appear on some streaming website or something.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on April 21, 2011, 10:06:41 AM
Oh god I'm so crossing my fingers for Virgil Donati :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 21, 2011, 10:06:45 AM
Man, one thing you can't say about all this is that it's dull. This is fun stuff
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 21, 2011, 10:07:13 AM
i was all cool til the TV part
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 21, 2011, 10:07:52 AM
I'll admit showing it on TV is a very odd idea that I don't know if I can get behind, but the typical drama imposed in this? I Don't see the problem. It's a trailer, it's only purpose is to get people excited. A simple unbiased documentary wouldn't do that for most people, they took the easy way out, but considering what they're doing, I don't think it matters which way they took out. As I said, it will all be over in a few months at most, this isn't a prolonged thing.

If they're just having fun with this, that's cool. The fear is that with this AI-style stuff, a 3-episode mini-series etc., DT is maybe taking the "next step" in their career.

rumborak

Why's that a "fear?"
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 10:08:28 AM
Because it's not really the band I fell in love with back in the day.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 10:09:47 AM
All this media shit is kinda making me nervous to how the album is going to sound.  
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 21, 2011, 10:10:04 AM
In addition to a nation-wide release, the film is rumored to air on television as a 3-part mini-series (official details TBA).

So national release? In Theaters?
Ooh christ, miniseries? I like that even more.

Probably won't be as easy for us to see in Europe, though...
Because it's not really the band I fell in love with back in the day.

rumborak

Fair cop. I don't know, I quite like the progression. I love that they're using the change as an excuse to grow, and excel, and develop. Marching boldly into the future - and, snowballing. Quite happy for them.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 21, 2011, 10:10:08 AM
Because it's not really the band I fell in love with back in the day.

rumborak


I agree with this.. change is fearful... altho we don't know if it's going to be for good or bad. I hope they will do great.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: blackngold29 on April 21, 2011, 10:10:17 AM
So I like the concept, it's very cool that they'll be showing so much detail about the auditions and really opening up about MP.


What I don't get was why four months ago they didn't say, "We're filming a documentary about the whole process, but it'll be better if you don't know who the drummer is until you see the whole thing." ? Still can't figure out why they're limiting it to fb either, it does a lot of good for their image, but only if you let people see it, it should be on their site, YouTube, everywhere.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 21, 2011, 10:10:50 AM
I have no qualms with them stretching it out now, that's how they will maintain interest until the album comes out.
My only concern is that DT is joining in with other "illustrous" reality-TV bands like INXS etc.

rumborak

Joining in with bands who can market products to their fanbase cleverly is no bad thing.

If it was just a cheap, wasteful cash-in, I'd be a little cautious. As it is, it looks like a lavishly produced documentary feature, offering an in-depth view of a process that we've spent the last six months speculating about.

A band that takes care and expends effort in giving the fans a product that they'll be interested in receiving gets all the thumbs up from me. And, frankly, as ridiculous as the wait's been, I'd rather the news be delivered through the medium of a gorgeous, lengthy, in-depth examination of the most exciting process in the band's recent history, than through the medium of a press release tucked away on a Roadrunner Records website.

It creates publicity because it's good.
Words of wisdom. As usual.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 21, 2011, 10:12:40 AM
So I like the concept, it's very cool that they'll be showing so much detail about the auditions and really opening up about MP.


What I don't get was why four months ago they didn't say, "We're filming a documentary about the whole process, but it'll be better if you don't know who the drummer is until you see the whole thing." ? Still can't figure out why they're limiting it to fb either, it does a lot of good for their image, but only if you let people see it, it should be on their site, YouTube, everywhere.
I think the facebook thing is because, by controlling who sees it, they can prompt people to join their mailing list - allows them to establish a direct connection to the fans.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 21, 2011, 10:14:25 AM
That's pretty cool of them to make a documentary. It is a really monumental moment for the Band and its history. Of course people are never satisfied, but the music is what counts. I'm more sad that I can't see the video.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 21, 2011, 10:15:42 AM
I'll admit showing it on TV is a very odd idea that I don't know if I can get behind, but the typical drama imposed in this? I Don't see the problem. It's a trailer, it's only purpose is to get people excited. A simple unbiased documentary wouldn't do that for most people, they took the easy way out, but considering what they're doing, I don't think it matters which way they took out. As I said, it will all be over in a few months at most, this isn't a prolonged thing.

If they're just having fun with this, that's cool. The fear is that with this AI-style stuff, a 3-episode mini-series etc., DT is maybe taking the "next step" in their career.

rumborak

I definitely just think they're having fun and doing this all very tongue-in-cheek. I personally enjoyed that teaser promo and found it entertaining!

Also, as usual I agree with everything Mr Rob Webster is saying in this thread. Clever chap, that one!

EDIT: To clarify, I think the reality TV side of it is a little tongue in cheek. The straight documentary stuff seems genuinely good.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 10:15:54 AM
https://www.sickdrummermagazine.com/index.php/news/latest-news/2207-dream-theater-drummer-auditions-inside-story.html
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: XJDenton on April 21, 2011, 10:17:40 AM
On an unreleated note, the number of people reading this thread at the moment is a bit ridiculous.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: atmyne on April 21, 2011, 10:18:05 AM
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o___0

Minnemann should have been dubbed the new drummer simply for that cookie monster shirt

And well done to RR/DT/film company for capitalizing on the drummer situation
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 10:18:30 AM
Because it's not really the band I fell in love with back in the day.

rumborak


Fair enough.  But here's the thing.  They're a band that was known for going to the extra mile for the fans, whether it be the rotating set lists, the Ytsejam releases, etc.  As with those other things, some fans may like how they're handling this, and some may hate it.  But I think they should still get props by trying to continue in that tradition of going the extra mile and trying to provide the fans with something way above and beyond what most bands would give their fans in this situation.  (and I'm not saying you aren't giving them well-deserved props--I'm just speaking in general)  Even if the fanbase decided collectively that this whole thing is a flop and the videos aren't something we're interested in, I find it cool that even without Mike, who was the driving force behind a lot of this stuff, the band are still trying to think outside the box and give us some extras.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Dr. DTVT on April 21, 2011, 10:18:58 AM
They're going all LeBron James on us now. :lol

"I'm taking my talents to Dream Theater.  I saw JLB shoot hoops in the Scenes from a Memory video diary, and I think I can bring a lot to the team."
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 10:20:12 AM
They're going all LeBron James on us now. :lol

"I'm taking my talents to Dream Theater.  I saw JLB shoot hoops in the Scenes from a Memory video diary, and I think I can bring a lot to the team."

:clap:

But that begs the question...would he change his name to LaBron Kevin?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: snowdog on April 21, 2011, 10:21:37 AM
So I like the concept, it's very cool that they'll be showing so much detail about the auditions and really opening up about MP.


What I don't get was why four months ago they didn't say, "We're filming a documentary about the whole process, but it'll be better if you don't know who the drummer is until you see the whole thing." ? Still can't figure out why they're limiting it to fb either, it does a lot of good for their image, but only if you let people see it, it should be on their site, YouTube, everywhere.
I think the facebook thing is because, by controlling who sees it, they can prompt people to join their mailing list - allows them to establish a direct connection to the fans.
Exactly.  Tons of people will "like" DT on Facebook, giving themselves more publicity.  Then you are requiring people to join their mailing list to see the video.  It definitely gets the band more publicity and visibility they might not have had otherwise.  It is a good marketing move.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ultimetalhead on April 21, 2011, 10:21:50 AM
Highest amount of users in a single thread since MP left? Probably.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 10:26:54 AM
If they have Heidi Klum in this thing,  I'm sold on it.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2011, 10:27:29 AM
If they have Heidi Klum in this thing,  I'm sold on it.

rumborak

Maybe in the next video. :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: zxlkho on April 21, 2011, 10:29:29 AM
Well that was certainly anticlimactic.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2011, 10:30:41 AM
Well that was certainly anticlimactic.

It was a teaser, it's job is to be non-climatic.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 21, 2011, 10:30:48 AM
found it on youtube.. can i post it here?

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Metabog on April 21, 2011, 10:31:42 AM
(https://img854.imageshack.us/img854/5673/dtdtdt.jpg)


 :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :lol :lol :lol :lol

Nice to see they exploited their break up to hype everything up and go on TV and make documentaries instead of just telling us who it is.

I remember there was a game that was advertised like this. Its name was Daikatana, and I think at least some people here know how that ended up.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 21, 2011, 10:33:14 AM

I remember there was a game that was advertised like this. Its name was Daikatana, and I think at least some people here know how that ended up.
Yep, you're right. Daikatana's quality probably was directly linked to the documentary.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: pogoowner on April 21, 2011, 10:33:56 AM
Nice to see they exploited their break up to hype everything up and go on TV and make documentaries instead of just telling us who it is.

I remember there was a game that was advertised like this. Its name was Daikatana, and I think at least some people here know how that ended up.
I had forgotten about that game.  :rollin
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 21, 2011, 10:36:14 AM
found it on youtube.. can i post it here?


Please? Or just tell me what to 'search' on youtube. I can't access Facebook at work (but we can access Youtube? Seems odd..anyway)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 21, 2011, 10:36:26 AM
Well that was certainly anticlimactic.

It was a teaser, it's job is to be non-climatic.
Exactly.

This might explain why Ryan always climaxes too early.

Uh, I mean, wat.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 21, 2011, 10:36:50 AM
found it on youtube.. can i post it here?


Please? Or just tell me what to 'search' on youtube. I can't access Facebook at work (but we can access Youtube? Seems odd..anyway)
No, not until we know whether it's ok to do that or not.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Bone_Daddy on April 21, 2011, 10:37:32 AM
I find it cool that even without Mike, who was the driving force behind a lot of this stuff, the band are still trying to think outside the box and give us some extras.
I'm just happy Mike didn't "direct" this. Anyone remember SFaM DVD? Yikes.

Back on topic, as bosk1 stated, the band is making an effort. Some will like it. Some won't. For me, I'm anticipating the release of the album.

That said, RR and DT are definitely capitalizing on PR end of this. Kinda a blessing in disguise really. Mike left: PR. Audition for a new drummer: More PR. The new drummer will play on the new DT album: More PR. If none of this would have happened, the only PR we would have received would be that DT is in the studio recording which is really not much for PR nor does it generate the type of hype that the current situation is generating.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: blackngold29 on April 21, 2011, 10:38:51 AM
So I like the concept, it's very cool that they'll be showing so much detail about the auditions and really opening up about MP.


What I don't get was why four months ago they didn't say, "We're filming a documentary about the whole process, but it'll be better if you don't know who the drummer is until you see the whole thing." ? Still can't figure out why they're limiting it to fb either, it does a lot of good for their image, but only if you let people see it, it should be on their site, YouTube, everywhere.
I think the facebook thing is because, by controlling who sees it, they can prompt people to join their mailing list - allows them to establish a direct connection to the fans.
Exactly.  Tons of people will "like" DT on Facebook, giving themselves more publicity.  Then you are requiring people to join their mailing list to see the video.  It definitely gets the band more publicity and visibility they might not have had otherwise.  It is a good marketing move.
Why would saying that you have to have a facebook account, have to like Dream Theater, and have to subscribe to the mailing list increase the number of people that see the video. Isn't that the goal? To get as many people to see as possible? It seems like they're bottlenecking it.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Bone_Daddy on April 21, 2011, 10:39:44 AM
If they have Heidi Klum in this thing,  I'm sold on it.

rumborak

 :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 21, 2011, 10:40:13 AM
found it on youtube.. can i post it here?


Please? Or just tell me what to 'search' on youtube. I can't access Facebook at work (but we can access Youtube? Seems odd..anyway)
No, not until we know whether it's ok to do that or not.

Yep, i need permission from one of the mods or bosk
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 21, 2011, 10:40:42 AM
So I like the concept, it's very cool that they'll be showing so much detail about the auditions and really opening up about MP.


What I don't get was why four months ago they didn't say, "We're filming a documentary about the whole process, but it'll be better if you don't know who the drummer is until you see the whole thing." ? Still can't figure out why they're limiting it to fb either, it does a lot of good for their image, but only if you let people see it, it should be on their site, YouTube, everywhere.
I think the facebook thing is because, by controlling who sees it, they can prompt people to join their mailing list - allows them to establish a direct connection to the fans.
Exactly.  Tons of people will "like" DT on Facebook, giving themselves more publicity.  Then you are requiring people to join their mailing list to see the video.  It definitely gets the band more publicity and visibility they might not have had otherwise.  It is a good marketing move.
Why would saying that you have to have a facebook account, have to like Dream Theater, and have to subscribe to the mailing list increase the number of people that see the video. Isn't that the goal? To get as many people to see as possible? It seems like they're bottlenecking it.
Other way round. They're using the video to encourage people to sign up to them on Facebook.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on April 21, 2011, 10:42:36 AM
I still think Minnemann is the best fit.....like a glove!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: blackngold29 on April 21, 2011, 10:44:17 AM
So I like the concept, it's very cool that they'll be showing so much detail about the auditions and really opening up about MP.


What I don't get was why four months ago they didn't say, "We're filming a documentary about the whole process, but it'll be better if you don't know who the drummer is until you see the whole thing." ? Still can't figure out why they're limiting it to fb either, it does a lot of good for their image, but only if you let people see it, it should be on their site, YouTube, everywhere.
I think the facebook thing is because, by controlling who sees it, they can prompt people to join their mailing list - allows them to establish a direct connection to the fans.
Exactly.  Tons of people will "like" DT on Facebook, giving themselves more publicity.  Then you are requiring people to join their mailing list to see the video.  It definitely gets the band more publicity and visibility they might not have had otherwise.  It is a good marketing move.
Why would saying that you have to have a facebook account, have to like Dream Theater, and have to subscribe to the mailing list increase the number of people that see the video. Isn't that the goal? To get as many people to see as possible? It seems like they're bottlenecking it.
Other way round. They're using the video to encourage people to sign up to them on Facebook.
I get that, but from the discussions I've heard a three minute video isn't enough to get people to sign up. Whereas on YouTube, everybody watches no problem.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nikatapi on April 21, 2011, 10:45:00 AM
After watching the video a couple of times, i think that Minnemann and Mangini are having the most fun, some of the other drummers look more focused and nervous.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 10:45:06 AM
Yep, i need permission from one of the mods or bosk

Since they're trying to use Facebook as the medium to get the word out and are trying to keep it somewhat "exclusive" for now, don't post it.  If you happen to share it outside the public part of this forum, so be it.  But just don't post it in the threads or solicit people to PM you are email you about it, please.  Thanks.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2011, 10:48:04 AM
I'd like to retract my earlier statement about them announcing through the microphone in the control room to the new drummer that he was in the band. I watched it again, and yea they're talking into the phone.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: atmyne on April 21, 2011, 10:49:48 AM
I still think Minnemann is the best fit.....like a glove!!
absolutely this. Too bad he supposedly won't be the drummer. I still have my fingers crossed that these rumors are false and that he is in-fact a part of DT.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 21, 2011, 10:52:40 AM
I'd like to retract my earlier statement about them announcing through the microphone in the control room to the new drummer that he was in the band. I watched it again, and yea they're talking into the phone.

yeah... i'm a bit intrigued by this, it seems like cove and if thats true it means they let the drummer know he was the chosen one until january
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 21, 2011, 10:53:41 AM
Have to say, I like the way they're doing it. Ok the reality TV side of things is very cheesy, but it's also really fun. And besides, most of us are of the assumption that it's most likely Mangini, but this will still give us some cool insight into the process and allow us to see the auditions etc.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 21, 2011, 10:53:53 AM
https://www.sickdrummermagazine.com/index.php/news/latest-news/2207-dream-theater-drummer-auditions-inside-story.html

seems pretty shady
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 10:54:24 AM
the production company said they wrapped filming in October.  My guess is that they made their decision really early in this process.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 21, 2011, 10:56:53 AM
Its on youtube. Yay. Now I can see it. Its stupid how its not mobile friendly. What if we want to see it, are on Facebook, signed up, yet cant?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 21, 2011, 10:58:31 AM
I'm just happy Mike didn't "direct" this. Anyone remember SFaM DVD? Yikes.

I think he also directed Score and Budokan.  Remember how they turned out?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 10:59:27 AM
I still think Minnemann is the best fit.....like a glove!!
absolutely this. Too bad he supposedly won't be the drummer. I still have my fingers crossed that these rumors are false and that he is in-fact a part of DT.

Yeah, I'm still sooooo rooting for Minnemann.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 11:02:55 AM
ME too.  Minneman or Lang
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: unspoken on April 21, 2011, 11:03:21 AM
I recognized Lang, Priester, Minnemann and probably Mangini and MAYBE Wildoer.

Mangini is the one who threw his sticks in the air.


So...that was it....If Mangini is in fact THE CHOSEN ONE....it was probably due to the "sticks in the air" move.... DT love drummers who throw their sticks into the air  :lol :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Bone_Daddy on April 21, 2011, 11:08:02 AM
I'm just happy Mike didn't "direct" this. Anyone remember SFaM DVD? Yikes.

I think he also directed Score and Budokan.  Remember how they turned out?
Just as bad?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: zxlkho on April 21, 2011, 11:09:19 AM
I'm just happy Mike didn't "direct" this. Anyone remember SFaM DVD? Yikes.

I think he also directed Score and Budokan.  Remember how they turned out?
Just as bad?
Umm... no?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 21, 2011, 11:09:30 AM
I'm just happy Mike didn't "direct" this. Anyone remember SFaM DVD? Yikes.

I think he also directed Score and Budokan.  Remember how they turned out?
Just as bad?
Budokan is beautiful. The show's pretty good, but the documentary on the bonus disc is absolutely gorgeous.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 11:10:02 AM
It's all starting to come together now. It's probably Mangini after all, which makes it unfortunate that Trunk said what he did.

Still will be fun to watch this.  :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 21, 2011, 11:11:31 AM
makes me so sad watching this that marco was soo close to being in, but probably isnt.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 11:12:07 AM
I still think Minnemann is the best fit.....like a glove!!
absolutely this. Too bad he supposedly won't be the drummer. I still have my fingers crossed that these rumors are false and that he is in-fact a part of DT.


I'm going to play devil's advocate for just a second here, even though this is a complete reversal of some things I've said in the past.  Here's a "what-if" for you:  Given that they're doing such a media production about this, there has obviously been a good amount of pre-planning.  It seems to me that they would have taken necessary steps to limit spoiler information as much as possible.  So, that being said, what if a lot of the things that have been said about some of the 7 are intentional misdirection or at least red herrings to keep things intentionally confused and under wraps.  I've been pretty certain about who it is for a long time now based on things I've heard.  But, really, I think all bets are somewhat off.  I wouldn't be surprised if it is any of the 7.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: SeventhSon on April 21, 2011, 11:13:23 AM
Some of these guys are gonna need bigger kits.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 21, 2011, 11:15:28 AM
It does seem suspect now actually.  After all the rumors came out about who auditioned, all this stuff started happening for those drummers around the same time.  Minneman with that other band, Lang and his foot, Mangini leaving Berklee.  Coincidence?  Maybe its all a setup.  /conspiracy theory
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 21, 2011, 11:16:21 AM
That vid was pretty exciting. So the documentary is titled Dream Theater 2011: The Spirit Carries On. Can't wait to see the full thing. Who else is as excited as I am we're getting closer to the announcement and album release.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 21, 2011, 11:16:59 AM
Derek Roddy... I'm surprised, is the most metal drummer in all 7...I think I want him in DT  :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 21, 2011, 11:17:55 AM
Wow.  I'm not gonna lie, this has the potential to be an all time compelling documentary if it was done right.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 11:18:41 AM
I still think Minnemann is the best fit.....like a glove!!
absolutely this. Too bad he supposedly won't be the drummer. I still have my fingers crossed that these rumors are false and that he is in-fact a part of DT.


I'm going to play devil's advocate for just a second here, even though this is a complete reversal of some things I've said in the past.  Here's a "what-if" for you:  Given that they're doing such a media production about this, there has obviously been a good amount of pre-planning.  It seems to me that they would have taken necessary steps to limit spoiler information as much as possible.  So, that being said, what if a lot of the things that have been said about some of the 7 are intentional misdirection or at least red herrings to keep things intentionally confused and under wraps.  I've been pretty certain about who it is for a long time now based on things I've heard.  But, really, I think all bets are somewhat off.  I wouldn't be surprised if it is any of the 7.

That's true. Didn't Peter Wildoer HIMSELF say that he was not chosen? If one of them is blatantly lying for the cover-up, I'd imagine that all information can come under that same level of scrutiny. I'm pretty okay with this. :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 21, 2011, 11:21:29 AM
if it is somehow marco or virgil i would be ecstatic. but i will not be mad at whatever choice is made. til i hear the album of course. gotta keep an open miind
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 21, 2011, 11:23:41 AM
So what we know by this...its a trailor for a documentary titled Dream Theater 2011: The Spirit Carried On about DTs search for a new drummer, which is how they're gonna reveal the drummer.

All was said in that video.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Pantherize on April 21, 2011, 11:24:45 AM
   OK. Just saw it on Youtube. For some reason I couldn't get it to play on Facebook (and yes, I had the security feature turned off). Anyway, wow. I thought it was really cool.  I have to say I am surprised about Derek Roddy being one of the candidates. The guy is a beast of a drummer, but he's been so attached to extreme drummer I didn't think image-wise it'd be a fit for them. Although it seems like most here didn't even recognize him so maybe he's just so underground they figured it wouldn't matter. I'm glad to see they gave him a shot.

   I really think seeing the quality of the candidates that anyone is crazy to second guess their actual pick. I know some people have been expressing a meh sort of attitude toward Mangini, but if they went through that whole process and felt he was the best fit, I'm all in.

  Also to those saying the video didn't show anything new...what?! There has been rampant speculation about the list of who actually auditioned for months. Anyone who speculated or "leaked" info was basically put up against the wall and grilled about how they should keep their mouth shut if they couldn't prove it. We now finally have solid proof and some of you are acting like, oh, we knew that all along, nothing new here?   ::)  I can understand being jaded by the wait but c'mon, I can't believe more people weren't smiling from ear to ear watching that video. I know I was.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 21, 2011, 11:27:24 AM
one thing i like is that we will get to see everyone play with the band. therefore, everyone can see how it couldve been with them in the band. so maybe your first choice upon hearing the name would not be your first choice after seeing them all together
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 21, 2011, 11:29:36 AM
That's how I felt Pantherize, Like a little kid again. I think what made it more magical was using TCoT at the end showing all the drummers.

That part is how I was hoping they'd reveal the drummer. All of them playing one song, eliminating as the song progresses, and the last hit reveals the drummer. How epic would that be, and after seeing this trailor TCoT would be perfect.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tjanuranus on April 21, 2011, 11:34:01 AM
CAn someone please fill me in on the joke? I keep seeing, I can't believe Priester was there, etc... I don't know much about him but seeing him play on youtube he seems like an awesome prog metal drummer.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 11:34:29 AM
On one hand, I really want Wildoer, but then there might be death vox in Dream Theater and I don't know how I feel about that.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jsem on April 21, 2011, 11:36:06 AM
We at least get REAL death metal vocs for A Nightmare to Remember





















:neverusethis:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: emindead on April 21, 2011, 11:36:47 AM
ME too.  Minnemann or Lang.
This.

I really liked the video -even though I had to try dozen of times on Facebook and still couldn't, so YouTube did it for me-. I only recognized Mangini and Lang. As this is the band I love the most, this is a pretty exciting process that it is unfolding, and I'm glad that I, as a fan, can be a part of it. I couldn't experience any of this with bands like Pink Floyd, Queen, Maiden or even Metallica (Trujillo's deal was a boring one and I wasn't that much of a fan back then).

Having said that, I don't want to know who the drummer until I watch this special documentary. I want to play along, be a "part of it" as long as I can.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: phentalmyst on April 21, 2011, 11:39:21 AM
this was posted on MP.com...

Straight quote from Derek Roddy about the Sickdrummer article:

"That said....the audition process was nothing like what is described up top. It was very professional, honest and those dudes and management/crew.... were very cool. There was no underhanded situations (like not wanting to be video taped....meant you couldn't audition)....that was never mentioned....and, I asked. Everyone involved was very up front with the way everything was going to run. No surprises."
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: KevShmev on April 21, 2011, 11:41:45 AM
How long until Mike Portnoy angrily vents about DT using the song he wrote about his dying father in a promo to promote his replacement? :P
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 11:49:45 AM
I still think Minnemann is the best fit.....like a glove!!
absolutely this. Too bad he supposedly won't be the drummer. I still have my fingers crossed that these rumors are false and that he is in-fact a part of DT.


I'm going to play devil's advocate for just a second here, even though this is a complete reversal of some things I've said in the past.  Here's a "what-if" for you:  Given that they're doing such a media production about this, there has obviously been a good amount of pre-planning.  It seems to me that they would have taken necessary steps to limit spoiler information as much as possible.  So, that being said, what if a lot of the things that have been said about some of the 7 are intentional misdirection or at least red herrings to keep things intentionally confused and under wraps.  I've been pretty certain about who it is for a long time now based on things I've heard.  But, really, I think all bets are somewhat off.  I wouldn't be surprised if it is any of the 7.

That's true. Didn't Peter Wildoer HIMSELF say that he was not chosen? If one of them is blatantly lying for the cover-up, I'd imagine that all information can come under that same level of scrutiny. I'm pretty okay with this. :)

It is not Peter. Peter has been on vacation skiing for the past week or so and to my knowledfge has not been in the States since the audiotion.

Priester is getting ready to tour with his band in South America.

The way I look at it is any of the seven would be great. Early on I had a feeling it was Priester, and I would not be dissapointed if it was. I still think it is Mangini tho.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: phentalmyst on April 21, 2011, 11:52:10 AM
my interpretation of bosk's post is...

what if none of the 7 guys are the new drummer and it's someone else completely???
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Pantherize on April 21, 2011, 12:05:40 PM
LOL, looks like WMG is playing whack a mole on Youtube. Original one I watched is down with a WMG copyright notice on it already. Another one up. I'm sure it won't be there long. So yeah, I'd say they really don't want it there at this point in time.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: FretMuppet on April 21, 2011, 12:06:40 PM
my interpretation of bosk's post is...

what if none of the 7 guys are the new drummer and it's someone else completely???

Or...

What if all 7 are the new drummers?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 21, 2011, 12:07:25 PM
my interpretation of bosk's post is...

what if none of the 7 guys are the new drummer and it's someone else completely???

el negro Hernandez!!!! hahaha just kidding.. i do love his druming.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: toro on April 21, 2011, 12:08:13 PM
OH. MY. GOD. at some posts on the facebook page.

BUTTHURT AND PROG-SNOBS, BUTTHURT AND PROG-SNOBS EVERYWHERE.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 21, 2011, 12:08:49 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Marco Minneman looks like Dirk Nowitzki?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 21, 2011, 12:09:27 PM
OH. MY. GOD. at some posts on the facebook page.

BUTTHURT AND PROG-SNOBS, BUTTHURT AND PROG-SNOBS EVERYWHERE.

DT is dealing so much butthurt. some may never recover
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 12:11:05 PM
LOL, looks like WMG is playing whack a mole on Youtube. Original one I watched is down with a WMG copyright notice on it already. Another one up. I'm sure it won't be there long. So yeah, I'd say they really don't want it there at this point in time.

haha WMG just axed the second one as well LOL.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: zxlkho on April 21, 2011, 12:11:43 PM
I'm not necessarily butthurt about it, but I am kind of disappointed they tried to pull a VH1 special out of this. They're exploiting it to the max.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 21, 2011, 12:13:25 PM
It really isn't hard to just watch it on facebook. :P
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 21, 2011, 12:15:48 PM
I'm not necessarily butthurt about it, but I am kind of disappointed they tried to pull a VH1 special out of this. They're exploiting it to the max.
Yeah, how dare they have a bit of fun and publicise the band in the process? DAMN THEM!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: blackngold29 on April 21, 2011, 12:15:56 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Marco Minneman looks like Dirk Nowitzki?
No


What if all 7 are the new drummers?
That would be awesome. Seven drummers, seven songs. One guy gets to tour.


Although they left out the audition tape from that Beiber kid for some reason....
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: zxlkho on April 21, 2011, 12:17:44 PM
I'm not necessarily butthurt about it, but I am kind of disappointed they tried to pull a VH1 special out of this. They're exploiting it to the max.
Yeah, how dare they have a bit of fun and publicise the band in the process? DAMN THEM!
What I'm trying to say is: I don't give a damn who the new drummer is, I just want the album.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mebert78 on April 21, 2011, 12:18:27 PM
After watching the trailer a few times, I wish JLB had his long hair while they were shooting the documentary. 

Other than that:  :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: blackngold29 on April 21, 2011, 12:20:03 PM
I wonder if Opeth will have this many people on their forums during the lead up to announcing the new keyboard player?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 21, 2011, 12:21:21 PM
I'm not necessarily butthurt about it, but I am kind of disappointed they tried to pull a VH1 special out of this. They're exploiting it to the max.

We'll see how it turns out.  Some Kind of Monster, in spite of the ego behind it, is one of the most brutally honest things anyone's ever put out about themselves to the media, which makes it great.  I don't expect the same level of emotional depth and conflict here, but it can work and be great if it's open and honest instead of being an extended promo piece.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: blackngold29 on April 21, 2011, 12:24:11 PM
I'm not necessarily butthurt about it, but I am kind of disappointed they tried to pull a VH1 special out of this. They're exploiting it to the max.

We'll see how it turns out.  Some Kind of Monster, in spite of the ego behind it, is one of the most brutally honest things anyone's ever put out about themselves to the media, which makes it great.  I don't expect the same level of emotional depth and conflict here, but it can work and be great if it's open and honest instead of being an extended promo piece.
Yeah, the black and white part where they're talking about MP gives a glimpse into why they haven't said much about it. We will get to hear they're side at some point.



Also, maybe this has been mentioned, but would you like to see MP make an appearance at some point? So they could really make it a complete overall view from both sides of the whole situation?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 21, 2011, 12:24:32 PM
just watched the facebook version.

what they said makes sense to me. they aren't looking for just a drummer, theyre looking for some who "fits", and to me that's Mangini. Berklee alumni, like the other guys in DT, and they've even worked with him before, unlike Lang. And he's a similar age, which helps.

its easy to forget its more than just the drumming.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: KevShmev on April 21, 2011, 12:24:41 PM
I'm not necessarily butthurt about it, but I am kind of disappointed they tried to pull a VH1 special out of this. They're exploiting it to the max.

So?  So long as the music doesn't suffer (in the sense of them "selling out" to gain more popularity), it's all good.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: zxlkho on April 21, 2011, 12:24:52 PM
Some Kind of Monster really just showed how washed up Metallica was as a group. It really served no other purpose than that. I hope DT's documentary doesn't show this kind of thing.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: zxlkho on April 21, 2011, 12:25:21 PM
I'm not necessarily butthurt about it, but I am kind of disappointed they tried to pull a VH1 special out of this. They're exploiting it to the max.

So?  So long as the music doesn't suffer (in the sense of them "selling out" to gain more popularity), it's all good.
This is what I'm afraid is going to happen.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: KevShmev on April 21, 2011, 12:28:08 PM
I'm not necessarily butthurt about it, but I am kind of disappointed they tried to pull a VH1 special out of this. They're exploiting it to the max.

So?  So long as the music doesn't suffer (in the sense of them "selling out" to gain more popularity), it's all good.
This is what I'm afraid is going to happen.

Why would you think that?  RR has been promoting them like crazy since they got them, and nothing DT has done since has sounded like a sell out attempt to gain more popularity.  Remember that DT has had catchy songs (by prog metal standards) on almost every record that could have been somewhat popular in the mainstream had they been properly promoted, so don't freak out when one or two songs on the new album have that feel.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2011, 12:42:45 PM
Some Kind of Monster really just showed how washed up Metallica was as a group. It really served no other purpose than that. I hope DT's documentary doesn't show this kind of thing.

You seem like such a negative person. Smile. :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 12:51:14 PM
Some of these guys are gonna need bigger kits.

Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing a smaller kit. I like it when drummers focus on the essentials. As with many other things, music thrives on limitation.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Raziel666 on April 21, 2011, 12:51:27 PM
Quote from: Random guy @ MP forums
I am "friends" with 5 of the 7 drummers who auditions on FaceBook (and yes it is really them, promise) and told them I saw the vid and wished them the best of luck. About 5 minutes after I posted, Marco Minnemann actually responded telling me that he IS NOT the drummer of DT. But he's working with JR on the Musical Minds Meld thing, and he also mentioned that he's working on something with JR and JP...

If this is true, it will be interesting to hear from a MM/JP/JR collaboration! Maybe call Tony Levin on the bass and have fun again!

(source: https://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.aspx?high=&m=2661316&mpage=10#2662621)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: EternalDancer on April 21, 2011, 12:53:33 PM
Enough of this chit. How about a new, sticky, locked thread that we can bookmark and sign up for notifications when there is real news. I just can't be assed to wade through 16 pages of crap to find any solid news

Still don't know why the old "updated" thread was removed that I had bookmarked - c'mon admins give us a break
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 12:56:49 PM
Quote from: Random guy @ MP forums
after I posted, Marco Minnemann actually responded telling me that he IS NOT the drummer of DT

 :'(  :'(
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: phentalmyst on April 21, 2011, 01:01:12 PM
Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing a smaller kit. I like it when drummers focus on the essentials. As with many other things, music thrives on limitation.

rumborak


as a drummer myself, this comment urks me. "essential" is a subjective word at best, especially when it comes to music. besides, DT is about being over the top, is in not? if you want a 4 piece kit treatment go listen to nirvana.

regardless, anyone who says it's possible to make a 3 piece kit sound like 50 has never touched a drumstick in their life.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 21, 2011, 01:01:54 PM
Enough of this chit. How about a new, sticky, locked thread that we can bookmark and sign up for notifications when there is real news. I just can't be assed to wade through 16 pages of crap to find any solid news

Still don't know why the old "updated" thread was removed that I had bookmarked - c'mon admins give us a break
U mad?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: phentalmyst on April 21, 2011, 01:05:03 PM
PS: it's DT's limitless nature that got me into them in the first place. why start limiting now?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jsem on April 21, 2011, 01:05:21 PM
Enough of this chit. How about a new, sticky, locked thread that we can bookmark and sign up for notifications when there is real news. I just can't be assed to wade through 16 pages of crap to find any solid news

Still don't know why the old "updated" thread was removed that I had bookmarked - c'mon admins give us a break
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Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 21, 2011, 01:05:56 PM
Nugget: Over the Edge produced the movie, JLB has a song called Over the Edge on Static Impulse.

Oh God it never ends
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 01:16:49 PM
Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing a smaller kit. I like it when drummers focus on the essentials. As with many other things, music thrives on limitation.

rumborak


as a drummer myself, this comment urks me. "essential" is a subjective word at best, especially when it comes to music. besides, DT is about being over the top, is in not? if you want a 4 piece kit treatment go listen to nirvana.

regardless, anyone who says it's possible to make a 3 piece kit sound like 50 has never touched a drumstick in their life.

And anybody who claims prog needs to be played with a 50-piece drum kit has never listened to good prog.
IMHO, MP had a tendency to just "work" the big kit the easy way, with fills that just seemed to try to execute as many different pieces as possible. Again, this is my personal opinion, but I think art has a tendency to lose its focus if it is too unconstrained.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MajorMatt on April 21, 2011, 01:18:47 PM
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 :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: phentalmyst on April 21, 2011, 01:25:11 PM
And anybody who claims prog needs to be played with a 50-piece drum kit has never listened to good prog.
IMHO, MP had a tendency to just "work" the big kit the easy way, with fills that just seemed to try to execute as many different pieces as possible. Again, this is my personal opinion, but I think art has a tendency to lose its focus if it is too unconstrained.

rumborak


but DT isn't just prog. they have a lot of elements that IMO require a lot of different percussive sounds. i agree with the MP comment, especially as of late, but guys like bobby jarzombek are creative as hell with kits of a large size. sure they could do cool stuff on smaller kits, but i come to DT to be blown away in ALL facets...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ronrule on April 21, 2011, 01:25:40 PM
JP: "We literally have been a family"

Literally?  LITERALLY?   :P
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 01:26:45 PM
I think he was speaking figuratively.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 21, 2011, 01:27:08 PM
JP: "We literally have been a family"

Literally?  LITERALLY?   :P
I thought that!

"John Myung is LITERALLY my grandfather."
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: zxlkho on April 21, 2011, 01:27:52 PM
:rollin :rollin
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Bone_Daddy on April 21, 2011, 01:28:03 PM
Some Kind of Monster, in spite of the ego behind it, is one of the most brutally honest things anyone's ever put out about themselves to the media, which makes it great.

One of the best music documentaries out there 2nd only to Behind the Lighted Stage.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: phentalmyst on April 21, 2011, 01:29:44 PM
i would add the foo fighters doc into that mix. the stuff on nirvana was  :corn
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: zxlkho on April 21, 2011, 01:35:21 PM
Some Kind of Monster, in spite of the ego behind it, is one of the most brutally honest things anyone's ever put out about themselves to the media, which makes it great.

One of the best music documentaries out there 2nd only to Behind the Lighted Stage.
I raise you Metal: A Headbanger's Journey and Flight 666.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ronrule on April 21, 2011, 01:40:56 PM
JLB:  "We've been touched by some magic here; but I think, you know, there's still more to come"

Oooh, a sequel!  Dream Theater 2: The Spirit Carries Onner?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 21, 2011, 01:46:30 PM
JLB:  "We've been touched by some magic here; but I think, you know, there's still more to come"

Oooh, a sequel!  Dream Theater 2: The Spirit Carries Onner?

JLB: We've been touched by some magic here; but I think, you know, there's still more to come.

(JAMES glares significantly at JOHN MYUNG.)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Deve on April 21, 2011, 01:47:38 PM
I know a lot of people don't like this whole "reality search" kind of thing for the new drummer, but I for one am so excited. I know when I'm watching it I'm gonna be rooting for specific people and it'll be a blast to hear seven amazing drummer's takes on DT songs. Cannot wait for this!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DeanTheater on April 21, 2011, 02:04:12 PM
I must admit The whole "reality charade" does have me excited.  I think it is a great ploy. And, by the amount of replies on facebook(1 ever 10-13 sec)  on the subject, I would say DT/RR  are doing things right.  This is a big reveal, as evidenced by the interwebz buzz since MP's departure.  I am jazzed about the whole thing. 
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Loser1 on April 21, 2011, 02:07:51 PM
Lame... No new information at all. BS...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TAC on April 21, 2011, 02:08:16 PM
Awesome video trailer.  I'm very excited and proud to be a DT fan.  Very classy and it's great to the the guys tackle this in such a creative way.  Thanks, DT!
This. I just watched the video and it gave me goosebumps. I'm very impressed. Throughout the whole audition time, we were all wishing the opportunity to witness it. Well, DT is granting our wish.

How anyone could have a problem with this is beyond me. This looks like an incredible treat. Even if the winner was leaked, I think would be irrevelevant. Just to have them share the process with us is an incredible gesture on the part of the band.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Xanthul on April 21, 2011, 02:14:04 PM
I wonder how long that has been on that site. Looks like it has been there for a long while :lol

EDIT: Holy crap, look at the Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/OverTheEdgeProd

Actually, since January 28, 2011.

So this TV thing means that us outside the US won't be able to watch? :/

Actually, since October 18th, 2010:

Quote
OverTheEdgeProd Over the Edge
We're in the studio with Dream Theater today! First shoot day our documentary on the band!
18 oct

Is there a way to keep twitters secret and then publish them or something like that? Because the most recent one says:

Quote
We can finally share what we've been working on for the past six months with you all! https://tinyurl.com/3e8hk39

It doesn't make sense, if they had already talked about it since october, why can they "finally" share what they've been working on?

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: theusualmadness on April 21, 2011, 02:26:45 PM
I wonder how long that has been on that site. Looks like it has been there for a long while :lol

EDIT: Holy crap, look at the Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/OverTheEdgeProd

Actually, since January 28, 2011.

So this TV thing means that us outside the US won't be able to watch? :/

Actually, since October 18th, 2010:

Quote
OverTheEdgeProd Over the Edge
We're in the studio with Dream Theater today! First shoot day our documentary on the band!
18 oct

Is there a way to keep twitters secret and then publish them or something like that? Because the most recent one says:

Quote
We can finally share what we've been working on for the past six months with you all! https://tinyurl.com/3e8hk39

It doesn't make sense, if they had already talked about it since october, why can they "finally" share what they've been working on?



and their facebook https://www.facebook.com/OverTheEdgeProductions?sk=notes

They posted some of this months ago
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TL on April 21, 2011, 02:28:12 PM
Argh! Of course they announce this when I'm out of town for a few days, away from any way to check the site.  :lol
Quite a nice surprise to come back to though. I'm quite excited!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 02:29:55 PM
well one of the owners of the company is a producer at MTV. HMMM?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tri.ad on April 21, 2011, 02:40:57 PM
That would make sense...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: erik16 on April 21, 2011, 02:48:27 PM
This video made me smile. It is a bit cheesy but at the same time quite well constructed. Nice to see the auditioners excited and I hope those who won't get the job won't feel to disappointed and rather work with some DT guys on side projects if they wish.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ronrule on April 21, 2011, 02:52:50 PM
After watching it 100 times, I'm pumped.  Would've preferred they go the Sundance documentary route rather than MTV reality show, but you can't have everything.  WHEN WE WILL GET THE REST!?! :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lordxizor on April 21, 2011, 02:55:09 PM
Edit: Nevermind. I got it to work
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 02:55:49 PM
???  Mine had a flute solo at the end.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DoctorAction on April 21, 2011, 02:57:50 PM
I grinned like a child watching it. Can't wait for the next instalment!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 21, 2011, 03:01:54 PM
Sooo....vid was cool, but wasn't there supposed to be a date announced for the reveal?  Or..did I miss something?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 21, 2011, 03:03:05 PM

This. I just watched the video and it gave me goosebumps. I'm very impressed. Throughout the whole audition time, we were all wishing the opportunity to witness it. Well, DT is granting our wish.

How anyone could have a problem with this is beyond me. This looks like an incredible treat. Even if the winner was leaked, I think would be irrevelevant. Just to have them share the process with us is an incredible gesture on the part of the band.

Right on.  I love this kind of stuff.  I'm hoping they release this stuff like they did with each song on the behind the scene stuff from SDOIT.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 03:04:51 PM
Sooo....vid was cool, but wasn't there supposed to be a date announced for the reveal?  Or..did I miss something?

Nope.  They never said that.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lonestar on April 21, 2011, 03:06:55 PM
Could someone post the Youtube link.  Can't access Facebook at work.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Fuzzboy on April 21, 2011, 03:08:48 PM
Could someone post the Youtube link.  Can't access Facebook at work.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 03:09:18 PM
Could someone post the Youtube link.  

No.  I already said no YT links.  Sorry.  (besides, it was taken down)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 21, 2011, 03:14:18 PM
Now we wait for when it'll be shown.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lonestar on April 21, 2011, 03:16:18 PM
Could someone post the Youtube link.  

No.  I already said no YT links.  Sorry.  (besides, it was taken down)
Sorry bosk, didn't read through all the pages.  Could someone then at least type a highly detailed synopsis of what happened in the video, pleeeeaaaasssseee.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 21, 2011, 03:18:21 PM
Basically its a trailor for a documentary apparently titled Dream Theater 2011: The Spirit Carries On, about their search for a new drummer, which is how they're gonna announce the new drummer.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lonestar on April 21, 2011, 03:21:55 PM
Basically its a trailor for a documentary apparently titled Dream Theater 2011: The Spirit Carries On, about their search for a new drummer, which is how they're gonna announce the new drummer.
man, I'd hate to see what your Cliffnotes version is like. :biggrin:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 03:25:06 PM
Could someone post the Youtube link.  

No.  I already said no YT links.  Sorry.  (besides, it was taken down)
Sorry bosk, didn't read through all the pages.  Could someone then at least type a highly detailed synopsis of what happened in the video, pleeeeaaaasssseee.

Stereotypical, deep-voiced, melodramatic narrator (yes, I'm serious) is talking about how the members of DT rawk the universe.  "Then, the unexpected happened.  Their drummer, Mike Portnoy, decides to leave the band."  Band is stunned.  They somehow move on and start auditioning people.  We see each of the seven playing drums, talking, playing more drums.  Video ends with the 4 remaining members in the studio control room leaning over a phone, and JLB says, "we wanted to take the opportunity to say...welcome to the family."  Video fades out.

Oh, and JLB says "monumental moment," probably after being slapped for saying "especially special" in an earlier take.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 21, 2011, 03:27:12 PM
Could someone post the Youtube link.  

No.  I already said no YT links.  Sorry.  (besides, it was taken down)
Sorry bosk, didn't read through all the pages.  Could someone then at least type a highly detailed synopsis of what happened in the video, pleeeeaaaasssseee.

It mostly shows Myung's takes on MP departure and the proccess of searching the new drummer, Myung interview some of the drummers and tells how he is enjoying jamming with them and that the process is about having great chemistry with the new drummer. At the end he welcome the new drummer to the family with a tackle but you can't see who the drummer is in the shot.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lonestar on April 21, 2011, 03:27:37 PM
Gracias, I'll have to take a look later.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: theusualmadness on April 21, 2011, 03:27:42 PM
Sooo....vid was cool, but wasn't there supposed to be a date announced for the reveal?  Or..did I miss something?

Nope.  They never said that.

Actually you could construe what John Petrucci said via facebook, that you would know the date today, but I think he meant, sign-up for mailing list and you will get the info for the release date (at some time).
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 21, 2011, 03:28:24 PM
shut.. bosk win me to it!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2011, 03:35:02 PM
*snip*
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Hal Incandenza on April 21, 2011, 03:35:10 PM
It mostly shows Myung's takes on MP departure and the proccess of searching the new drummer, Myung interview some of the drummers and tells how he is enjoying jamming with them and that the process is about having great chemistry with the new drummer. At the end he welcome the new drummer to the family with a tackle but you can't see who the drummer is in the shot.

Oh dear.  Maybe it's the paint fumes I'm inhaling right now, but that was hilarious.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 21, 2011, 03:39:29 PM
*snip*

Trying to get yourself banned?
(besides, already in the process of being taken down I think, just like the previous one)

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tick on April 21, 2011, 03:39:53 PM
Could someone post the Youtube link.  

No.  I already said no YT links.  Sorry.  (besides, it was taken down)
Sorry bosk, didn't read through all the pages.  Could someone then at least type a highly detailed synopsis of what happened in the video, pleeeeaaaasssseee.

Stereotypical, deep-voiced, melodramatic narrator (yes, I'm serious) is talking about how the members of DT rawk the universe.  "Then, the unexpected happened.  Their drummer, Mike Portnoy, decides to leave the band."  Band is stunned.  They somehow move on and start auditioning people.  We see each of the seven playing drums, talking, playing more drums.  Video ends with the 4 remaining members in the studio control room leaning over a phone, and JLB says, "we wanted to take the opportunity to say...welcome to the family."  Video fades out.

Oh, and JLB says "monumental moment," probably after being slapped for saying "especially special" in an earlier take.
Then a live Chicken is sacrificed and people wearing Black cloaks bow down and pray. Then they tell you to wait longer to find something out. :tick2:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2011, 03:42:16 PM
*snip*

Trying to get yourself banned?
(besides, already in the process of being taken down I think, just like the previous one)

rumborak


Really?  Can I get banned for this?  If so, I'll edit my post.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 03:43:28 PM
Uh, yes.  Since I have now said twice in this thread that YouTube links are off-limits, you think I might possibly get a little peeved at people doing it anyway?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tick on April 21, 2011, 03:44:51 PM
Uh, yes.  Since I have now said twice in this thread that YouTube links are off-limits, you think I might possibly get a little peeved at people doing it anyway?
or maybe yes, you could be banned. :biggrin:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2011, 03:47:24 PM
Uh, yes.  Since I have now said twice in this thread that YouTube links are off-limits, you think I might possibly get a little peeved at people doing it anyway?

Sorry, haven't followed this at all, just saw it on youtube, haven't read through this thread at all.  Go easy bosk :(
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 21, 2011, 03:48:12 PM
Uh, yes.  Since I have now said twice in this thread that YouTube links are off-limits, you think I might possibly get a little peeved at people doing it anyway?

Sorry, haven't followed this at all, just saw it on youtube, haven't read through this thread at all.
Then don't post links to things until you've checked whether it's ok to post them! :facepalm:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2011, 03:49:00 PM
Uh, yes.  Since I have now said twice in this thread that YouTube links are off-limits, you think I might possibly get a little peeved at people doing it anyway?

Sorry, haven't followed this at all, just saw it on youtube, haven't read through this thread at all.
Then don't post links to things until you've checked whether it's ok to post them! :facepalm:

 :'(
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Implode on April 21, 2011, 03:49:34 PM
So is there going to be a real documentary? I still can't tell.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 21, 2011, 03:50:13 PM
Someone had mentioned earlier that this video/documentary was almost the same as American Idol, but I disagree.

Otherwise we'd be able to vote for the new drummer, and that'd be wayyy too much of a shitfest.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 21, 2011, 03:51:28 PM
Uh, yes.  Since I have now said twice in this thread that YouTube links are off-limits, you think I might possibly get a little peeved at people doing it anyway?

Sorry, haven't followed this at all, just saw it on youtube, haven't read through this thread at all.
Then don't post links to things until you've checked whether it's ok to post them! :facepalm:

 :'(
:heart
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tick on April 21, 2011, 03:52:07 PM
Wolfy didn't mean it. Let him live.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 03:52:45 PM
Uh, yes.  Since I have now said twice in this thread that YouTube links are off-limits, you think I might possibly get a little peeved at people doing it anyway?

Sorry, haven't followed this at all, just saw it on youtube, haven't read through this thread at all.
Then don't post links to things until you've checked whether it's ok to post them! :facepalm:

 :'(

AND don't go back and quote the post that has the link in it while I'm in the process of deleting the link in the first place because you are creating more posts that I have to edit!  >:(
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 03:53:12 PM
Wolfy didn't mean it. Let him live.

Of course I'll let him leave.  He's young and still has his whole life ahead of him.  You, on the other hand...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 21, 2011, 03:53:21 PM
Uh, yes.  Since I have now said twice in this thread that YouTube links are off-limits, you think I might possibly get a little peeved at people doing it anyway?

Sorry, haven't followed this at all, just saw it on youtube, haven't read through this thread at all.
Then don't post links to things until you've checked whether it's ok to post them! :facepalm:

 :'(
:heart

for the recored, I asked for a youtube link to be posted

...only cuz I didn't see the request for them not to be posted  :facepalm:

btw sorry about that.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2011, 03:54:37 PM
Uh, yes.  Since I have now said twice in this thread that YouTube links are off-limits, you think I might possibly get a little peeved at people doing it anyway?

Sorry, haven't followed this at all, just saw it on youtube, haven't read through this thread at all.
Then don't post links to things until you've checked whether it's ok to post them! :facepalm:

 :'(

AND don't go back and quote the post that has the link in it while I'm in the process of deleting the link in the first place because you are creating more posts that I have to edit!  >:(

Fuck man, it was just an honest mistake, I sincerely apologize.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: wolfking on April 21, 2011, 03:55:49 PM
Wolfy didn't mean it. Let him live.

 :tup


Wolfy didn't mean it. Let him live.

Of course I'll let him leave.  He's young and still has his whole life ahead of him.  You, on the other hand...

What's the definition of young around here??
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 03:57:29 PM
Fuck man, it was just an honest mistake, I sincerely apologize.

I know.  That's why I'm letting you live.

What's the definition of young around here??

It's, like, the opposite of Tick.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tick on April 21, 2011, 03:58:04 PM
Wolfy didn't mean it. Let him live.

Of course I'll let him leave.  He's young and still has his whole life ahead of him.  You, on the other hand...
am awesome? :angel:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tick on April 21, 2011, 03:59:10 PM
Fuck man, it was just an honest mistake, I sincerely apologize.

I know.  That's why I'm letting you live.

What's the definition of young around here??

It's, like, the opposite of Tick.
WHY YOU!!! >:( :censored
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nickel on April 21, 2011, 03:59:27 PM
What's the definition of young around here??

If it's post count, then I have yet to even be conceived.

-nickel
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 04:00:24 PM
Wolfy didn't mean it. Let him live.

Of course I'll let him leave.  He's young and still has his whole life ahead of him.  You, on the other hand...
am awesome? :angel:

Yes, you am. 
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 21, 2011, 04:02:39 PM
Wolfy didn't mean it. Let him live.

Of course I'll let him leave.  He's young and still has his whole life ahead of him.  You, on the other hand...
am awesome? :angel:

Yes, you am. 
:rollin
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 21, 2011, 04:21:23 PM

It's, like, the opposite of Tick.

Kettle meet........... :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: emindead on April 21, 2011, 04:27:26 PM
So the winner is SteveTheater, he was the first guy to say that we were going to have this kind of process. I believed him and affirmed according to that post when people asked about the process of revealing the drummer. ariich said it was just a rumour, but it wasn't. O ye of little faith :emindead:
Nelson: HA-HA!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TAC on April 21, 2011, 04:31:04 PM
Could someone post the Youtube link.  

No.  I already said no Y&T links.  Sorry.  (besides, it was taken down)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 21, 2011, 04:33:44 PM
Using TCoTs ending really made it more emotional.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 04:34:18 PM
:TAC:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 21, 2011, 04:36:04 PM
:TAC:

So your the kid at the zoo that can't read the "Do not provoke the animal signs". :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 04:36:09 PM
From Peter Wildoer a few minutes ago on FB:

Peter Wildoer
Hey!

Finally the news are out!!! Yes I did audition for Dream Theater. I've been bursting to tell everyone but it's not been possible. Go to Dream Theater and see the video that was released today about the audition.

More to come on this soon.
...
I'll be updating my newly designed www.peterwildoer.com with more news asap.

Cheers,
Peter

Thanks to all of you for your kind words!!! All I can say is that I auditioned and I can't tell who got the gig. But, it was a hell of a ride this whole audition thing!!! :-) A cool story to tell my son when he turns a teenager and think his dad is a loser, ha ha ha... ;-) All the other six drummers are my drumming idols and I'm immensely honored to have been part of that list!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 04:37:32 PM

It's, like, the opposite of Tick.

Kettle meet........... :lol

Watch it, sonny!  :tick:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nikatapi on April 21, 2011, 04:49:03 PM
Check this thread in drummerworld forums, Derek Roddy and Peter Wildoer talk about their audition:
https://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74093&page=2 (https://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74093&page=2)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: redfish71 on April 21, 2011, 04:50:08 PM
i love the video and think the concept is pretty cool.  but i cant help but think........."I'm taking my talents to South Beach."  how many think this was actually the bands idea?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 04:51:29 PM
I am on FB with Wildoer right now.

He is very talkative.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nickel on April 21, 2011, 04:58:00 PM
I am on FB with Wildoer right now.

He is very talkative.

Would love to see a transcription when you're done, if it's appropriate and won't invade privacy.

-nickel
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 04:58:37 PM
Peter Wildoer -My audition started with two jams where we set the levels for in ears and just felt eachother out, musically that is. ;-) After that we went through the three songs they sent me. I guess you'll get to know what songs it was on the next ep...isode of the DT video. ;-) At last they wanted to try some new ideas. This was HAAAAAAAAARD! The ideas were in weird odd times and not one bar with the same meter. Very cool ideas and I got my head around it so and so after a while. If those ideas end up on the new DT album it will be PROG! :-)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 21, 2011, 05:00:10 PM
At last they wanted to try some new ideas. This was HAAAAAAAAARD! The ideas were in weird odd times and not one bar with the same meter. Very cool ideas and I got my head around it so and so after a while. If those ideas end up on the new DT album it will be PROG! :-)
Oh wow! Very cool.

Cheers for going to the trouble! And to Peter for responding so candidly. Thank him from us. Although, might be a bit freaky. "Hey Peter, this conversation is being leched over by strangers as it happens." No, actually, don't thank him from us. Still! Nice.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 05:00:49 PM
Peter- All drummers used the same kit, yes. Auditions were held in New York so no chance to bring my own. I got to meet Virgil Donatio for almost two hours and we had a great chat in his hotel room. That alone made my trip!!! He's on my absolute to three list of my drumming heroes! :-)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JPX on April 21, 2011, 05:04:19 PM
"a tech song with 30 part changes within the space of 3 minutes"

Dance of Eternity?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 05:04:39 PM
At last they wanted to try some new ideas. This was HAAAAAAAAARD! The ideas were in weird odd times and not one bar with the same meter. Very cool ideas and I got my head around it so and so after a while. If those ideas end up on the new DT album it will be PROG! :-)
Oh wow! Very cool.

Cheers for going to the trouble! And to Peter for responding so candidly. Thank him from us. Although, might be a bit freaky. "Hey Peter, this conversation is being leched over by strangers as it happens." No, actually, don't thank him from us. Still! Nice.

He has no problem. H eis just being open about the process.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 21, 2011, 05:06:39 PM
"a tech song with 30 part changes within the space of 3 minutes"

Dance of Eternity?

yep/
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MajorMatt on April 21, 2011, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from:  Derek Roddy
Yeah, I did fine. I wouldn't change anything......but, then again....I didn't feel that gig was right for me anyway....from the very beginning.
I was very busy during that time period....only had a few weeks to learn a 20 minute song, a ballad, and a tech song with 30 part changes within the space of 3 minutes! Haha.
That all went well.....
We jammed a little while....was cool but, the environment (in ears, video, etc...) didn't lend itself to a lot of creative moments...plus the fact that these guys we're trying to "jam" in odd times, etc....
Then they threw some riffs at me to see how quickly I could spit out complex stuff.

Now this...was fun but, at the same time....I could tell that they were looking for a dude that will come in....and record an entire record in the studio...on the spot.

I've never wanted to work that way..... as I believe that if the business (need to put out a record quickly) over trumps the musical vision (taking time and creating the best you can)
then that ultimately directs where the band ends up in the future.

I like to sit on riffs for a few days.... at least and create the best possible part (as opposed to the automatic one)

All good though, like I said...was a load of fun and made some great friends out of it.

D


IMO looks like Roddy is out.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 05:12:43 PM
It seems like one of the songs was TCOT.  I mean, I know it's super easy to cleverly splice in short video clips to the audio of TCOT in the video to make it seem like that's what they are playing even if they aren't, but it just seemed to sync up so perfectly.  TDOE sure sounds like it could be what Wildoer was describing.  And as far as the third song being a ballad...hmm...what could it be?  Wither, maybe?  It's got lots of groove and emotion, so might be a good choice for the auditions.  But could be any other DT ballad, I suppose.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 21, 2011, 05:13:15 PM
Yeah Roddy and Wildoer never stood out as particularly likely candidates anyway, same with Priester. It's the other 4 who seem the most suitable.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkEternalNight on April 21, 2011, 05:16:19 PM
The ballad could have been The Spirit Carries On. That was the last text shown in the video, it could just be a pun of talking about the future, or both.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nikatapi on April 21, 2011, 05:17:47 PM
Wildoer seems to be very down to earth about this, as he says that it was unexpected for him to be asked to audition, and he couldn't believe it. He seems a very cool guy.
To be honest at the beginning of the speculations about the drummer, i was hoping for Donati to get the gig, but after watching this video i think i would love to see either Minnemann or Mangini as the new drummer.
Those guys seemed to have the most fun and are more exciting to watch while playing.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kennedymichael on April 21, 2011, 05:19:50 PM
What about the song before TCOT?  I sounds familiar but I just can't place it . . .
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MajorMatt on April 21, 2011, 05:26:37 PM
What about the song before TCOT?  I sounds familiar but I just can't place it . . .

The Best of Times
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 21, 2011, 05:29:01 PM
I think it's interesting that all these guys who carry so much respect and prestige felt that being asked to audition for DT was a huge honor.  It speaks to how big a deal DT is.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 05:29:54 PM
The ONLY reason people are referring to LeBron James is because of the titular similarity to James LaBrie.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kennedymichael on April 21, 2011, 05:33:27 PM
THANKS!

So the songs played during the video are:

1. Shattered Fortress
2. Wither
3. DoE
4. Best of Times
5. TCOT

It appears that DoE and TCOT are played by each of the drummers.  APPEARS.

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 05:37:30 PM
So, Marco and Wildoer haven't gotten it, they've said. Derek also said he didn't and Aquiles is going to tour with some band. That leaves Mike Mangini, Virgil Donati, and Thomas Lang...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 05:37:59 PM
Wildoer seems to be very down to earth about this, as he says that it was unexpected for him to be asked to audition, and he couldn't believe it. He seems a very cool guy.
To be honest at the beginning of the speculations about the drummer, i was hoping for Donati to get the gig, but after watching this video i think i would love to see either Minnemann or Mangini as the new drummer.
Those guys seemed to have the most fun and are more exciting to watch while playing.

Yes, Peter is very down to earth. Great guy. Humble by all means. Hevwas trly honored to be in the company of great drummers and the guys in DT.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ZBomber on April 21, 2011, 05:38:12 PM
Taken from https://www.sickdrummermagazine.com/index.php/news/latest-news/2207-dream-theater-drummer-auditions-inside-story.html (https://www.sickdrummermagazine.com/index.php/news/latest-news/2207-dream-theater-drummer-auditions-inside-story.html)

There has been much talk over Dream Theater and the auditions they held to find a new drummer, since Mike Portnoy decided to leave the band last year. The band has stayed pretty quiet about the whole process, but now they gear up to announce their decision.
 
A source very close to the situation has told Sick Drummer Magazine the new drummer is Mike Mangini, and others who were asked/auditioned were: Derek Roddy, Marco Minnemann, Virgil Donati, Thomas Lang, Aquiles Priester and Peter Wildoer.
 
This was just posted 4/18 on the record label's website: "Dream Theater would like to share with its fans some of the intense process, along with the musical joy, that went into choosing a new drummer.  Who is the best fit behind the kit? Go to Dream Theaterís Facebook page on Thursday, 4/21 at 11 AM to sign up for the mailing list and to receive more details about an exclusive and intimate look at the auditions, and to find out exactly when and how the momentous announcement about the bandís new lineup will be made.  Also on Facebook, fans will be able to find out information about the bandís upcoming 2011 World Tour".
 
What we do not like about this situation is the way the band went about the video footage detail. We feel the drummers were used in a sense, for their popularity. Each drummer was sent a camera to use and were asked to film as much as they could surrounding the audition. They were told it was to become "bonus footage" on a future DVD or something to that effect. The drummers were asked to film themselves preparing for the audition, practicing, traveling to the audition and anything else they felt relative. Then, upon arriving at the actual audition the drummers were asked to sign a release handing over all the video footage they had recorded, and if they didn't, they were not going to be able to audition.
 
We feel this is somewhat taking advantage of the drummers who auditioned and could have been handled a better way. Perhaps informing the drummers of the plan and sending a video release to be reviewed in advance. Not sticking them with a release at the audition and holding that over their heads as a requirement to audition, only to use the footage to steam up the facebook page around the announcement of the new drummer.

So... I would say that this article is pretty accurate. Someone might have re-posted it since the announcement today, but this thread grew like 15 pages and I'm not reading through allthat shit.  :P
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 05:41:10 PM
Right.  Much better to make an already long thread longer by reposting something that has already been posted and discussed.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 05:41:37 PM
Peter- Finally it's official, YES I did audition for Dream Theater!!! :-) It was a fantastic experience. Both my wife and I was treated fantastic by everyone involved with the audition. THANKS!

I've written an extensive "diary" like story on all my thoughts on the audition from when I got the mail where I was asked if I wanted to audition until when I was back home after the whole trip. I wrote it in english for the swedish drum magazine Crash Mag that Crafton Musik release once every year. I'm working on getting it translated into english asap.

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ZBomber on April 21, 2011, 05:46:07 PM
Right.  Much better to make an already long thread longer by reposting something that has already been posted and discussed.

 ::)

Sorry I don't have the time to read through 15 pages of people complaining about how they still don't know the name of the drummer.

And I quoted it from page 5. That was posted BEFORE this facebook announcement. Get over it.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 05:50:35 PM
Cool, so now it's on page 5 and page 19.  I can see why it would be important to have it on both of those momentous pages of the thread.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 05:51:51 PM
(https://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r190/lamtwins/wildoer2.jpg)

(https://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r190/lamtwins/wildoer1.jpg)

Peter at audition
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 21, 2011, 05:52:56 PM
(https://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r190/lamtwins/wildoer2.jpg)

Peter at audition

had this been posted one day earlier, I would have been like

DUDE WHO IS YOU?

but yah.

alot of previously unavailable info is goin go public now.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ZBomber on April 21, 2011, 05:54:50 PM
Cool, so now it's on page 5 and page 19.  I can see why it would be important to have it on both of those momentous pages of the thread.

Because you and others seemed to question its validity before, since, I'm assuming ,it listed Priester. Well, now that we have the list of drummers, those drummers in the news article match up. Gives the article a lot more validity, while not making it necessarily factual. What is the big deal about bringing it up again?

Why SHOULDN'T it be discussed again? You're acting as if it has nothing to do with this thread. I know things are stressful with the influx of users, but seriously man? I don't know why you're on my case for resposting an article that has everything to do with the discussion at hand, especially when there were only a couple posts talking about it before we got an official list of drummers.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 21, 2011, 05:55:02 PM
More importantly ZB, it's already been confirmed by Roddy and Wildoer that the claims in that article are nonsense and that DT were completely nice and up front about everything. Reposting it when it's already been debunked by the people who auditioned seems a bit strange.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 05:57:13 PM
It's odd that the article knew exactly who was in it though, then having it go onto such misinformation. Weird.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ZBomber on April 21, 2011, 05:57:42 PM
More importantly ZB, it's already been confirmed by Roddy and Wildoer that the claims in that article are nonsense and that DT were completely nice and up front about everything. Reposting it when it's already been debunked by the people who auditioned seems a bit strange.

See, this would have been nice to know. Bosk didn't mention that, and as I said I didn't get a chance to read through 15+ pages to see if it had been debunked.

Maybe that's just someone that auditioned who was bitter that they didn't get picked or something. I have a hard time believing the site that posted that would just make it up. Still interesting, at any rate.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 21, 2011, 05:59:19 PM
Maybe that's just someone that auditioned who was bitter that they didn't get picked or something. I have a hard time believing the site that posted that would just make it up. Still interesting, at any rate.
Not made it up necessarily, but "we heard it from someone" is far from concrete, and when the people themselves are disagreeing, it would indicate that the story has either been fabricated or at the very least exaggerated from what someone heard.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ronrule on April 21, 2011, 05:59:47 PM
Seems strange they'd even have anyone audition who considers "jamming in weird time signatures" to be a hindrance creatively.

I do agree with him on song and drum part writing though. Wildoer for DT producer!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 21, 2011, 06:01:08 PM
So I was thinking about why the movie was made.  Given what the documentary is, I think a lot of people are not unreasonably saying they're being overly dramatic, trying to paint themselves in a good light, and using everything that's happened as a cash in.  I don't completely agree with this, but it's not unreasonable.

But what do I think DT's motivations are?  There are three primary reasons they did this:

 - Making themselves look good.  I mean, come on.  Maybe it will end up seeming disingenuous, but how can they not do this?  Outside DTF, most of the fans want Portnoy back, and they probably aren't pleased with the band for so zealously pushing on without him.  For better or worse, DT wants present their side of the story so they don't look like dickheads.

 - Money... which I suspect doesn't actually matter that much.  None of them are strapped for cash.  If they produced this documentary knowing it wouldn't be aired on TV or be a hugely popular piece outside DT fandom, they still would have done it.  The money's just a nice upside.

 - Selling the new drummer and the band's future to the fans.  While the first reason was probably the most pressing emotionally, this was the biggest logical concern.  DT knows they live and die based on their intense fan base.  Given how controversial this is, they wisely decided to do everything possible to show the auditions were handled the right way.  If they don't do the documentary and then say "Hey guys, it's Mike Mangini," the amount of what-ifs becomes overbearing.  

"Why not Priester?"
"We totally respect his skills as a drummer, but we felt he didn't handle TSCO the right way and we didn't feel the right vibe when we improvised with him."
"Why?"
"Eh.  We'd rather not go into that further.  Priester didn't work out, but we don't want to do the disrespect of laying out in detail why he didn't work.  It paints him in an unfair light."
"SO GUYS.  DREAM THEATER DIDN'T CHOOSE PRIESTER AND THEY CAN'T EXPLAIN WHY.  THEY KNOW THEY SCREWED UP AND WON'T ADMIT IT!"

Basically in logical terms, while we might not like the premise or conclusion of the choice, we'll have every reason to understand its validity.

Also, look at it in the context of new media.  So much of our lives are public. DT fans especially know this because of Portnoy.  And, in American culture we tend to want to see the big media event that sums everything up to fully digest it.  United 93 (sorry to go there) and Miracle on Ice are great examples of this.  Just hearing about and seeing an event aren't enough, we need to feel it and experience the catharsis.  And if you think you're the exception, you're probably lying or not very self-aware.  This is why the overly dramatic argument holds no water.  They're being no more dramatic than our society in general.

The doc will inspire loads and loads of debate.  DT will love that.  The fans will love it.  Some people will see one of the other drummers audition and feel like he was the better choice.  This is inevitable, but better than factless emotion and speculation.  But the biggest thing is that most people will see the documentary and accept it happened.  The mental tension will go away.

And then Dream Theater won't be Dream Theater minus Mike Portnoy or Dream Theater plus Mike Mangini.  It will legitimately be Dream Theater.  And more than anything, right or wrong, that's what they want and need to happen to continue their careers.  Not a very romantic idea, but likely the most positive experience for everyone involved.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 21, 2011, 06:01:21 PM
Seems strange they'd even have anyone audition who considers "jamming in weird time signatures" to be a hindrance creatively.

I do agree with him on song and drum part writing though. Wildoer for DT producer!
Wasn't it Roddy who said that?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: redfish71 on April 21, 2011, 06:03:29 PM
yes
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 21, 2011, 06:09:53 PM
im kinda scared at the point roddy brought up. I hope they let the drummer sit on some songs for a little while to come up with the best possible parts
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 06:13:46 PM
But what do I think DT's motivations are?  There are three primary reasons they did this...

All valid suppositions.  But I like:

4)  Because it's just a cool idea.  DT have a tradition of given the fans extra besides the typical cycle of album release, tour, repeat, with a live album or greatest hits compilation thrown in every decade or so.  They've always found a way to do something special for the fans, whether it be the Christmas CD's, the rotating set lists, the Ytsejam releases, the 6:00-on-a-Christmas-morning downloads, etc.  Without trying to one-up or outdo Mike for being the prime mover behind a lot of that stuff, they are continuing that tradition before the new album is even out by doing this.  Love the doc or hate the doc, it's just a cool idea.

...and all the stuff that you said, too.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 06:15:25 PM
More importantly ZB, it's already been confirmed by Roddy and Wildoer that the claims in that article are nonsense and that DT were completely nice and up front about everything. Reposting it when it's already been debunked by the people who auditioned seems a bit strange.

See, this would have been nice to know. Bosk didn't mention that, and as I said I didn't get a chance to read through 15+ pages to see if it had been debunked.

Maybe Bosk was annoyed at the tone of your "maybe this has been fully explained, but F.U. bosk.  I can't be bothered to find out, so I'm just going to post it anyway" post (not to mention the other crap you've been pulling around here lately).
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 21, 2011, 06:15:46 PM
I agree with Bosk. I feel pleased were getting video. Even better than what I wanted it to be.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 21, 2011, 06:23:13 PM
i love the idea and thankful for the videos (movie) to come. i just dont like that the 'reality style' opened them up to being bashed. some websites are having a field day.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: splent on April 21, 2011, 06:23:18 PM
I wish there was a date.  I hate coming soon.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: skydivingninja on April 21, 2011, 06:23:23 PM
Chill out guys...

Very cool to see Wildoer and Roddy talk about the auditions.  I didn't see Roddy or Wildoer getting the gig, but it seems that Roddy is definitely cool with the way things turned out, good for him.  This should also help Wildoer get some great gigs between JLB solo albums as well.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 21, 2011, 06:25:53 PM
Well, its a good thing I don't watch reality shows. It just sounded like a movie trailor.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ZBomber on April 21, 2011, 06:30:16 PM
More importantly ZB, it's already been confirmed by Roddy and Wildoer that the claims in that article are nonsense and that DT were completely nice and up front about everything. Reposting it when it's already been debunked by the people who auditioned seems a bit strange.

See, this would have been nice to know. Bosk didn't mention that, and as I said I didn't get a chance to read through 15+ pages to see if it had been debunked.

Maybe Bosk was annoyed at the tone of your "maybe this has been fully explained, but F.U. bosk.  I can't be bothered to find out, so I'm just going to post it anyway" post (not to mention the other crap you've been pulling around here lately).

Look, I'm not going to argue and derail the thread and give you material to ban me with (which is clearly what you want), but my OP was NOTHING of that extent. There were 15 pages, did you honestly expect me to read through all of them in 10 minutes? I was around earlier today when that was posted, and just came back a little bit ago. I figured if I simply quoted a post to raise discussion, that would be ok. If there was already more discussion on it than the five posts I saw, I figured that would have been stated and we could just have moved on. Wouldn't derail the thread or anything, simple as that. You could have just said "We already discussed that, parts of the article regarding the treatment of the drummer have been proven false". Instead you posted a very sarcastic and rude reply to me.

You're acting as if I reposted the article to spite you or something. I just reposted an article man. Calm down. And I don't know what "other crap" I've been pulling around here, but I would like to hear it if you want to PM me and discuss this further.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: theanalogkid7 on April 21, 2011, 06:33:00 PM
I think the whole documentary is just a big front and at the end of it we'll find out the new drummer is actually just a new app from JR called DrumWiz.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 21, 2011, 06:34:39 PM
More importantly ZB, it's already been confirmed by Roddy and Wildoer that the claims in that article are nonsense and that DT were completely nice and up front about everything. Reposting it when it's already been debunked by the people who auditioned seems a bit strange.

See, this would have been nice to know. Bosk didn't mention that, and as I said I didn't get a chance to read through 15+ pages to see if it had been debunked.

Maybe Bosk was annoyed at the tone of your "maybe this has been fully explained, but F.U. bosk.  I can't be bothered to find out, so I'm just going to post it anyway" post (not to mention the other crap you've been pulling around here lately).

Look, I'm not going to argue and derail the thread and give you material to ban me with (which is clearly what you want), but my OP was NOTHING of that extent. There were 15 pages, did you honestly expect me to read through all of them in 10 minutes? I was around earlier today when that was posted, and just came back a little bit ago. I figured if I simply quoted a post to raise discussion, that would be ok. If there was already more discussion on it than the five posts I saw, I figured that would have been stated and we could just have moved on. Wouldn't derail the thread or anything, simple as that. You could have just said "We already discussed that, parts of the article regarding the treatment of the drummer have been proven false". Instead you posted a very sarcastic and rude reply to me.

You're acting as if I reposted the article to spite you or something. I just reposted an article man. Calm down. And I don't know what "other crap" I've been pulling around here, but I would like to hear it if you want to PM me and discuss this further.

More importantly ZB, it's already been confirmed by Roddy and Wildoer that the claims in that article are nonsense and that DT were completely nice and up front about everything. Reposting it when it's already been debunked by the people who auditioned seems a bit strange.

See, this would have been nice to know. Bosk didn't mention that, and as I said I didn't get a chance to read through 15+ pages to see if it had been debunked.

Maybe Bosk was annoyed at the tone of your "maybe this has been fully explained, but F.U. bosk.  I can't be bothered to find out, so I'm just going to post it anyway" post (not to mention the other crap you've been pulling around here lately).

Look, I'm not going to argue and derail the thread and give you material to ban me with (which is clearly what you want), but my OP was NOTHING of that extent. There were 15 pages, did you honestly expect me to read through all of them in 10 minutes? I was around earlier today when that was posted, and just came back a little bit ago. I figured if I simply quoted a post to raise discussion, that would be ok. If there was already more discussion on it than the five posts I saw, I figured that would have been stated and we could just have moved on. Wouldn't derail the thread or anything, simple as that. You could have just said "We already discussed that, parts of the article regarding the treatment of the drummer have been proven false". Instead you posted a very sarcastic and rude reply to me.

You're acting as if I reposted the article to spite you or something. I just reposted an article man. Calm down. And I don't know what "other crap" I've been pulling around here, but I would like to hear it if you want to PM me and discuss this further.

zbomber, you my homie, but i just gotta say, it's never a good idea to argue with mods.

...especially the bosk.

while im sure you make valid points, try not to go overboard, ight bro? (trust me).

anyways,

yah.

mangini.

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 06:48:25 PM
Look, I'm not going to argue and derail the thread and give you material to ban me with (which is clearly what you want),

 :tup

But *goes onto derailing thread*

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ZBomber on April 21, 2011, 06:49:46 PM
Why don't we just go back to the discussion at hand. If bosk wants to talk about this, we can do it via PM.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 21, 2011, 06:50:42 PM
Look, I'm not going to argue and derail the thread and give you material to ban me with (which is clearly what you want),

 :tup

But *goes onto derailing thread*

 :facepalm:

so, roddy and wildoer (sp?) are out.

that leaves 5.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 21, 2011, 06:51:18 PM
Why don't we just go back to the discussion at hand. If bosk wants to talk about this, we can do it via PM.

Yup.  I'd hate to see you take some time off.  


BTW, I wound when the next video will be released?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mebert78 on April 21, 2011, 06:56:59 PM
I love the DT video.  But for some reason it makes me kinda sad seeing how the drummers' eyes are all glowing with hope and excitement, but sadly the odds are they won't get chosen.  They all want it so bad, but there's just one spot.  I just feel bad seeing that idk lol.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ultimetalhead on April 21, 2011, 07:01:23 PM
Yeah, that's exactly the same vibe you'd get from The Apprentice.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Dimitrius on April 21, 2011, 07:01:34 PM
Parts of that voiceover couldn't have been more cheesy!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 07:02:20 PM
Look, I'm not going to argue and derail the thread and give you material to ban me with (which is clearly what you want),

 :tup

But *goes onto derailing thread*

 :facepalm:

so, roddy and wildoer (sp?) are out.

that leaves 5.

Priester and Minneman are both supposedly on tour, have been, and will be for a while, right? That leaves 3.  :P
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Progmetty on April 21, 2011, 07:02:30 PM
Where can I find the videos everybody is talking about?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 07:02:50 PM
Facebook bro
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2011, 07:03:03 PM
Parts of that voiceover couldn't have been more cheesy!

You obviously don't watch much SciFi Channel.  :blob:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Dimitrius on April 21, 2011, 07:05:23 PM
Parts of that voiceover couldn't have been more cheesy!

You obviously don't watch much SciFi Channel.  :blob:
I actually don't. The only thing I've ever watch from Syfy was Battlestar Galactica and I watched it on video.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bloop on April 21, 2011, 07:11:06 PM
"Can Dream Theater find a new brother behind the kit?" (Count of Tuscany playing in the background)

NUGGETZ
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Progmetty on April 21, 2011, 07:16:39 PM
Good God that was crazy cheesy, I hope they drop the fat house wives reality show tone in the next video.
All the drummers faces are new to me, they all seem to have cool personalities.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: webpoet73 on April 21, 2011, 07:23:27 PM
I didn't like the Terms of Service for the app that has to be joined, so I guess I don't get to see the video.  I sure don't want to agree to let them spam me.  "DTR Music may email me directly at " the email address I use to log on.  
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JasonScandopolous on April 21, 2011, 07:39:52 PM
Wildoer seems to be very down to earth about this, as he says that it was unexpected for him to be asked to audition, and he couldn't believe it. He seems a very cool guy.
To be honest at the beginning of the speculations about the drummer, i was hoping for Donati to get the gig, but after watching this video i think i would love to see either Minnemann or Mangini as the new drummer.
Those guys seemed to have the most fun and are more exciting to watch while playing.

And this is based on watching each of them say maybe two sentences, in maybe 10 seconds of video each?  LOL.  Not that I know anything about any of the candidates, but, you've got to admit that drawing conclusions from this clip is a bit ridiculous.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 21, 2011, 07:43:42 PM
I didn't like the Terms of Service for the app that has to be joined, so I guess I don't get to see the video.  I sure don't want to agree to let them spam me.  "DTR Music may email me directly at " the email address I use to log on.  

Sound's like one of your treads that makes me laugh. :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: phentalmyst on April 21, 2011, 07:55:21 PM
Wildoer seems to be very down to earth about this, as he says that it was unexpected for him to be asked to audition, and he couldn't believe it. He seems a very cool guy.
To be honest at the beginning of the speculations about the drummer, i was hoping for Donati to get the gig, but after watching this video i think i would love to see either Minnemann or Mangini as the new drummer.
Those guys seemed to have the most fun and are more exciting to watch while playing.

And this is based on watching each of them say maybe two sentences, in maybe 10 seconds of video each?  LOL.  Not that I know anything about any of the candidates, but, you've got to admit that drawing conclusions from this clip is a bit ridiculous.

no, it's based on other things that wildoer has said, most notably on roddy's forum and a fb chat someone had with him. all of which have been posted here.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 21, 2011, 08:28:33 PM
Two more things occur to me:

 - It's interesting that Roddy and Wildoer flat out said they couldn't quite keep up with the material.  While I'm not sure how good they are in comparison to the other drummers, these guys are very good.  It says a lot about how technically advanced DT really is.

 - Also interesting about them is that, in a sense, they were just looking for a gig.  I 100% understand this, but for DT it's not the best attitude.  When you compare that to Lang (seemed to genuinely want to find a home in a band, actually very surprising), Minnemann (genuinely excited about the idea of the DT lifestyle), and Mangini (willing to quit being a professor at Berkelee), it's easy to tell why just from their attitude they didn't make it.  I don't think this is a bad thing, different people belong in different situations and they did their jobs like professionals for the auditions.  But it shows why personality is just as important as ability.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2011, 08:31:41 PM
Two more things occur to me:

 - It's interesting that Roddy and Wildoer flat out said they couldn't quite keep up with the material.  While I'm not sure how good they are in comparison to the other drummers, these guys are very good.  It says a lot about how technically advanced DT really is.


When did they say that? I think I missed it.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 21, 2011, 08:35:20 PM
Two more things occur to me:

 - It's interesting that Roddy and Wildoer flat out said they couldn't quite keep up with the material.  While I'm not sure how good they are in comparison to the other drummers, these guys are very good.  It says a lot about how technically advanced DT really is.

 - Also interesting about them is that, in a sense, they were just looking for a gig.  I 100% understand this, but for DT it's not the best attitude.  When you compare that to Lang (seemed to genuinely want to find a home in a band, actually very surprising), Minnemann (genuinely excited about the idea of the DT lifestyle), and Mangini (willing to quit being a professor at Berkelee), it's easy to tell why just from their attitude they didn't make it.  I don't think this is a bad thing, different people belong in different situations and they did their jobs like professionals for the auditions.  But it shows why personality is just as important as ability.

Some good points Reapsta, as well as your earlier ones (and the one bosk mentioned).

I believe Mangini fits the bill for the band, but you can't deny the fact that Lang really seems eager about settling down with the band (same goes for Minnemann). It'd be really cool to see any of the three actually make it.

Fingers Crossed.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 21, 2011, 08:36:57 PM
Two more things occur to me:

 - It's interesting that Roddy and Wildoer flat out said they couldn't quite keep up with the material.  While I'm not sure how good they are in comparison to the other drummers, these guys are very good.  It says a lot about how technically advanced DT really is.


When did they say that? I think I missed it.

The way I worded that was too vague and dramatic.  What I meant was that when they got to the "we're going to throw super hard riffs at you and see what you come up with on the spot" section, neither of them felt wholly comfortable.  Roddy openly said it was a bit much for him and that it wasn't his way of writing.  Wildoer seems like he was a little more comfortable but still not fully at their speed.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 21, 2011, 08:38:20 PM
Two more things occur to me:

 - It's interesting that Roddy and Wildoer flat out said they couldn't quite keep up with the material.  While I'm not sure how good they are in comparison to the other drummers, these guys are very good.  It says a lot about how technically advanced DT really is.


When did they say that? I think I missed it.


im not sure who said that, but that's total bullstuff. roddy and wildoer could definitely keep up, they are phenomenal drummers, even if they aren't familiar with prog (which doesn't even matter).

roddy is used to numbers, so he'd be fine. i dont know much about wildoer, but im sure that if DT chose him to audition, he'd be fine too.

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2011, 08:42:19 PM
Two more things occur to me:

 - It's interesting that Roddy and Wildoer flat out said they couldn't quite keep up with the material.  While I'm not sure how good they are in comparison to the other drummers, these guys are very good.  It says a lot about how technically advanced DT really is.


When did they say that? I think I missed it.

The way I worded that was too vague and dramatic.  What I meant was that when they got to the "we're going to throw super hard riffs at you and see what you come up with on the spot" section, neither of them felt wholly comfortable.  Roddy openly said it was a bit much for him and that it wasn't his way of writing.  Wildoer seems like he was a little more comfortable but still not fully at their speed.


In the new vid? I just watched it again and none of them say or even hint at anything like that, one of the guys with long hair (I guess roddy?) even says how naturally it felt. Are you talking about a different source I haven't seen?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 21, 2011, 08:48:11 PM
im not sure who said that, but that's total bullstuff. roddy and wildoer could definitely keep up, they are phenomenal drummers, even if they aren't familiar with prog (which doesn't even matter).

Ugh.

https://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74093&page=2

Quote from: Derek Roddy
We jammed a little while....was cool but, the environment (in ears, video, etc...) didn't lend itself to a lot of creative moments...plus the fact that these guys we're trying to "jam" in odd times, etc....
Then they threw some riffs at me to see how quickly I could spit out complex stuff.

Now this...was fun but, at the same time....I could tell that they were looking for a dude that will come in....and record an entire record in the studio...on the spot.

I've never wanted to work that way..... as I believe that if the business (need to put out a record quickly) over trumps the musical vision (taking time and creating the best you can)
then that ultimately directs where the band ends up in the future.

I like to sit on riffs for a few days.... at least and create the best possible part (as opposed to the automatic one)

Maybe he could handle the riffs, in which case I went a bit too far.  But he clearly seemed uncomfortable with them.  Bad for the drummer of DT.

Peter Wildoer -My audition started with two jams where we set the levels for in ears and just felt eachother out, musically that is. ;-) After that we went through the three songs they sent me. I guess you'll get to know what songs it was on the next ep...isode of the DT video. ;-) At last they wanted to try some new ideas. This was HAAAAAAAAARD! The ideas were in weird odd times and not one bar with the same meter. Very cool ideas and I got my head around it so and so after a while. If those ideas end up on the new DT album it will be PROG! :-)

I guess you could say njdtfan made this up.  Like I said, not the same attitude as Roddy, but the fact he called it hard meant he was forced to play a level higher than he was comfortable.

I have the feeling that Mangini at the very least probably heard the super hard riffs and just knocked them out with no effort, which is what DT wanted.  MP might not be technically the best drummer, but simply through a lot of practice he had learned to naturally play in odd times without thinking it through.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 08:52:39 PM
Wildoer seems to be very down to earth about this, as he says that it was unexpected for him to be asked to audition, and he couldn't believe it. He seems a very cool guy.
To be honest at the beginning of the speculations about the drummer, i was hoping for Donati to get the gig, but after watching this video i think i would love to see either Minnemann or Mangini as the new drummer.
Those guys seemed to have the most fun and are more exciting to watch while playing.

And this is based on watching each of them say maybe two sentences, in maybe 10 seconds of video each?  LOL.  Not that I know anything about any of the candidates, but, you've got to admit that drawing conclusions from this clip is a bit ridiculous.

no, it's based on other things that wildoer has said, most notably on roddy's forum and a fb chat someone had with him. all of which have been posted here.
Thanks dude..I had a great conversation with Peter Wildoer tonite which I posted some of(not all BTW). So maybe before making presumumptions, some people may want to read a thread before posting "their" conclusions.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 08:56:41 PM
im not sure who said that, but that's total bullstuff. roddy and wildoer could definitely keep up, they are phenomenal drummers, even if they aren't familiar with prog (which doesn't even matter).

Ugh.

https://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74093&page=2

Quote from: Derek Roddy
We jammed a little while....was cool but, the environment (in ears, video, etc...) didn't lend itself to a lot of creative moments...plus the fact that these guys we're trying to "jam" in odd times, etc....
Then they threw some riffs at me to see how quickly I could spit out complex stuff.

Now this...was fun but, at the same time....I could tell that they were looking for a dude that will come in....and record an entire record in the studio...on the spot.

I've never wanted to work that way..... as I believe that if the business (need to put out a record quickly) over trumps the musical vision (taking time and creating the best you can)
then that ultimately directs where the band ends up in the future.

I like to sit on riffs for a few days.... at least and create the best possible part (as opposed to the automatic one)

Maybe he could handle the riffs, in which case I went a bit too far.  But he clearly seemed uncomfortable with them.  Bad for the drummer of DT.

Peter Wildoer -My audition started with two jams where we set the levels for in ears and just felt eachother out, musically that is. ;-) After that we went through the three songs they sent me. I guess you'll get to know what songs it was on the next ep...isode of the DT video. ;-) At last they wanted to try some new ideas. This was HAAAAAAAAARD! The ideas were in weird odd times and not one bar with the same meter. Very cool ideas and I got my head around it so and so after a while. If those ideas end up on the new DT album it will be PROG! :-)

I guess you could say njdtfan made this up.  Like I said, not the same attitude as Roddy, but the fact he called it hard meant he was forced to play a level higher than he was comfortable.

I have the feeling that Mangini at the very least probably heard the super hard riffs and just knocked them out with no effort, which is what DT wanted.  MP might not be technically the best drummer, but simply through a lot of practice he had learned to naturally play in odd times without thinking it through.
@ Reapsta. I did not make it up at all. and Peter would attest to it. In fact, I could post the exact conversation from him. link and all. I respect Peter as a person & musician and totally beleive what he told me.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 21, 2011, 08:58:58 PM
I took a screenshot in the moment where one of the drummers is holding a letter. I'm trying to figure out what it says:

"
To The World's Greatest Drummers
Welcome to the auditions!
We're sorry we don't have a practice room. But we do have something for you to practice on - and doing so will provide instant gratification, the treat's inside!

Please attack this drum with the mallet we've provided, just as you're going to do for real in the studio! :)
Best wishes to an audition that blows everyone away!"

This is probably a FAIL transcription, feel free to help me out....if you have nothing better to do, like me.

Fixed, if anyone cares.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2011, 08:59:31 PM
im not sure who said that, but that's total bullstuff. roddy and wildoer could definitely keep up, they are phenomenal drummers, even if they aren't familiar with prog (which doesn't even matter).

Ugh.

https://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74093&page=2

Quote from: Derek Roddy
We jammed a little while....was cool but, the environment (in ears, video, etc...) didn't lend itself to a lot of creative moments...plus the fact that these guys we're trying to "jam" in odd times, etc....
Then they threw some riffs at me to see how quickly I could spit out complex stuff.

Now this...was fun but, at the same time....I could tell that they were looking for a dude that will come in....and record an entire record in the studio...on the spot.

I've never wanted to work that way..... as I believe that if the business (need to put out a record quickly) over trumps the musical vision (taking time and creating the best you can)
then that ultimately directs where the band ends up in the future.

I like to sit on riffs for a few days.... at least and create the best possible part (as opposed to the automatic one)

Maybe he could handle the riffs, in which case I went a bit too far.  But he clearly seemed uncomfortable with them.  Bad for the drummer of DT.

Peter Wildoer -My audition started with two jams where we set the levels for in ears and just felt eachother out, musically that is. ;-) After that we went through the three songs they sent me. I guess you'll get to know what songs it was on the next ep...isode of the DT video. ;-) At last they wanted to try some new ideas. This was HAAAAAAAAARD! The ideas were in weird odd times and not one bar with the same meter. Very cool ideas and I got my head around it so and so after a while. If those ideas end up on the new DT album it will be PROG! :-)

I guess you could say njdtfan made this up.  Like I said, not the same attitude as Roddy, but the fact he called it hard meant he was forced to play a level higher than he was comfortable.

I have the feeling that Mangini at the very least probably heard the super hard riffs and just knocked them out with no effort, which is what DT wanted.  MP might not be technically the best drummer, but simply through a lot of practice he had learned to naturally play in odd times without thinking it through.


Oh thanks. I wasn't aware of that interview. :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Gorille85 on April 21, 2011, 09:00:40 PM
I understand what Roddy is trying to say about writing and I kinda agree with him.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 21, 2011, 09:02:55 PM
@ Reapsta. I did not make it up at all. and Peter would attest to it. In fact, I could post the exact conversation from him. link and all. I respect Peter as a person & musician and totally beleive what he told me.

Sorry if I caused offense.  I obviously can't be 100% certain, but I believe you're telling the truth.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 09:06:21 PM
Further more both Peter & Roddy both explained what their feelings were and the process of the auditions, seperate comments that both say the same thing regarding the process.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2011, 09:08:01 PM
I understand what Roddy is trying to say about writing and I kinda agree with him.

True, but for an audition it's hard to work that way.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 21, 2011, 09:10:43 PM
@ Reapsta. I did not make it up at all. and Peter would attest to it. In fact, I could post the exact conversation from him. link and all. I respect Peter as a person & musician and totally beleive what he told me.

Sorry if I caused offense.  I obviously can't be 100% certain, but I believe you're telling the truth.
No offense at all dude ;D. Trust me, i believe 1/2 of what I read on the internet. But when I say what Peter told me, I beleive it. I am in NO WAY trying to cause commotion. Just relaying (with Peters blessing) the convo.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 21, 2011, 10:52:01 PM
interesting roddy quote

"
As far as the band being up front with their fans.......I'm sure they want too but, there are some legal issues that needs to be addressed and that takes precedence over what "can be said or announced".

I'm sure you guys can figure it out......and, I am certain that they knew who they wanted before these auditions were even thought about.

One thing that was said directly to me was....."whoever it will be.....it's got to be the fans choice...someone the fans are completely happy with".

D "
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2011, 10:53:33 PM
He seems rather passive aggressive.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 21, 2011, 11:04:46 PM
From Derek Roddy (sorry if this has already been posted) :

Quote
I was very busy during that time period....only had a few weeks to learn a 20 minute song, a ballad, and a tech song with 30 part changes within the space of 3 minutes! Haha.

So, it's pretty safe to say the tech song was TDOE. 20 minutes song? My call is TCOT since it's the song in the trailer and all the drummer seem to be playing that song at the end. I have no idea which ballad they played though.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 21, 2011, 11:07:25 PM
TDEN? Seems more like TDOE.


Also, every post of his really comes across as bitter.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 21, 2011, 11:11:32 PM
Yeah I meant TDOE.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 21, 2011, 11:16:22 PM
I want to say the ballad is TSCO.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nick on April 21, 2011, 11:24:36 PM
Technical song was obviously The Dance of Eternity or Metropolis Pt. 1, and from the trailor the 20 minute song is obviously The Count of Tuscany, but I would bet the ballad was Wither as the song is new and played on the last tour like all the other songs I just mentioned.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 21, 2011, 11:26:33 PM
Vacant.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 21, 2011, 11:49:37 PM
(https://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldp3jukzHo1qb9a2wo1_500.png)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: skydivingninja on April 21, 2011, 11:59:42 PM
Regarding song choice, didn't Zeleny confirm that the three songs were TDOE, TSCO, and ANTR?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 22, 2011, 12:16:39 AM
Regarding song choice, didn't Zeleny confirm that the three songs were TDOE, TSCO, and ANTR?

Even though the video strongly suggested TCOT, ANTR makes more sense since it doesn't have a 5 or 6 minute section without drums along with a decently long intro with no drums.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: j on April 22, 2011, 12:36:56 AM
He seems rather passive aggressive.

I probably shouldn't make assumptions, but I get this vibe too.

-J
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: STEVETHEATER on April 22, 2011, 01:59:04 AM
Not to be a total douchebag here, but how is it possible that a band like DT don't how to use their own font!
That font is dead wrong!!!! I don't blame the guys but I sure hope this font will not end up on the artwork...

... please no!  :|

Steve

(https://i55.tinypic.com/103he0m.jpg)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: thyer on April 22, 2011, 02:06:28 AM
I hope in Virgil Donati or Marco Minnemann...but the Mike Mangini web site is on restyle for a few months (in april will be the newone...coincidence?)

At the bottom of the heart I tought for a surprise: "we didin't choose anyone because Mike is caming back"...dreams!!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Xanthul on April 22, 2011, 03:38:32 AM
Regarding the sickdrummer article that was debunked, they have now backed down from it:

https://www.sickdrummermagazine.com/index.php/news/latest-news/2208-dream-theater-drummer-auditions-revised.html
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: majo on April 22, 2011, 03:41:41 AM
si I watched the video and these are words that came to my mind: ridiculous, pathetic and wtf?
then I read about movie... :\
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 22, 2011, 03:48:17 AM
I understand what Roddy is trying to say about writing and I kinda agree with him.
I don't believe there is any "right" or "wrong" way to approach music - that's just the way DT do things and they like it and it works for them. Obviously Roddy doesn't dig it so he probably wasn't the right fit, and that's all he said really, although he did come across as just slightly arrogant about it.

Also, every post of his really comes across as bitter.
Interesting, I don't get that vibe at all. He seems to have enjoyed the process but felt that he wouldn't be the right fit for DT anyway because of a different approach to writing music.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mladen on April 22, 2011, 03:53:27 AM
The video was so much fun.  :metal

I recognized most of the guys, but I have no idea which ones are Wildoer, Lang and Roddy.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: roccer on April 22, 2011, 04:10:16 AM
interesting roddy quote

"
One thing that was said directly to me was....."whoever it will be.....it's got to be the fans choice...someone the fans are completely happy with".

D "

But the fans want Lang  :'( Ok seriously, for some reason I doubt someone from the band said these exact words...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tri.ad on April 22, 2011, 04:36:06 AM
Also, every post of his really comes across as bitter.
Interesting, I don't get that vibe at all.

"Not at all" would be a bit too much. He didn't really sound bitter, but a certain amount of disappointment that shines through can't be overlooked imo. Perhaps he expected another way of approaching things like jamming and stuff or just wasn't happy with it.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 22, 2011, 04:44:28 AM
Yeah disappointed that it didn't work out, I can definitely see that. But I don't see any connection between that and bitterness; he seems perfectly happy with how things turned out in the end.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jonny108 on April 22, 2011, 05:07:07 AM
Peter Wildoer: All drummers used the same kit, yes. Auditions were held in New York so no chance to bring my own.    Nice bit of info there.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Wildoer on April 22, 2011, 05:11:18 AM
Hey there!

Well finally I feel I can post here. I've been following this forum quite closely since September and I want to thank you all for entertaining reading! Most of all I'm very impressed with the detective work around here and the enormous commitment concerning the audition, fantastic fans!

One thing I'm still learning are all the abbreviation you and all DT (see even I use these abbreviations now, ha ha ha) fans use like JP, JR, ANTR etc... It's like you have your own language.   ;)

I have so many things I've read over the last months that I would like to comment. I don't remember all and I'm not sure how much I can say without destroying the next video(s). I've been a DT fan since I saw the "Pull me under" video on MTV's Headbanger's Ball in the spring of 1993 and I don't consider myself being a guy that just wanted a gig and not being a fan like some may think!

First of all, I'm by far the least known guy out of all the drummers and I'm extremely flattered to be part of this drummer list!!! All the other drummers are my drumming heroes and I have lots of albums, DVDs, books from all of them.

I want to clarify one thing that was discussed here yesterday regarding the odd meter "test" the guys threw at us. First of all it was not like the normal rehearsal auditioning for DT, I mean it's DT! I was nervous for a month before the audition and when they told me they wanted to try some new ideas and then when they started playing the first idea I almost froze, ha ha ha. I could almost not hear what they were playing! I promise it was not easy.

Well, the guys are very humble and fantastic individuals and told me all the other drummers were kind of surprised too when presented to this test and that it was cool. Like already quoted here I got my head around it so and so and one idea we even jammed around. At the day of my audition even Virgil told me that I was in for a treat at some point on the audition, didn't make me less nervous, ha ha ha!!! All this said I can also add that I work as a math teacher.   ;)  I guess I'm the only one out of all the seven that don't do music full time but work a normal day job.

Here are two videos where I play more polymetric and "avantgarde" stuff. Just want to show you who don't know that I play more than death and thrash metal:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUC6Dy7D4i4
Read the description for the clip above, makes more sense then.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktLA0RfrYLc

I've written a quite extensive "diary" in swedish from the day I got the mail where I was asked if I wanted to audition up until after the auditions. It will be published in a swedish drum magazine soon. I'm working on getting it translated to english asap. So if you're interested in my personal view and thoughts together with facts about my audition then I'll keep you posted.  :)

I have my newly designed website www.peterwildoer.com up and running and will post more news there as soon as I can.



To Mladen: I'm the guy at 1:39, Lang at 1:44 and Roddy at 2:02.


Cheers and Stay metal!
Peter Wildoer
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tumbok on April 22, 2011, 05:23:09 AM
Peter Wildoer.

The respect and acknowledgement will raise much much for you from now on.

A Math Teacher Amazing Drummer!

 :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 22, 2011, 05:23:38 AM
Well finally I feel I can post here. I've been following this forum quite closely since September and I want to thank you all for entertaining reading! Most of all I'm very impressed with the detective work around here and the enormous commitment concerning the audition, fantastic fans!
Oh brilliant! Who's your favourite member? It's me, right?

Genuinely though, lovely to see you, and cheers for going to the trouble to speak to us 'orrible lot. Really exciting to hear about the process from "your end."

How much were you communicating with the other drummers throughout the process? What with speaking to Virgil and all that.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 22, 2011, 05:27:05 AM
Thanks for posting Peter, very nice to hear from you and to get some insight into how things went!

And yes I think we can all agree that robwebster is the best. :biggrin:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 22, 2011, 05:28:11 AM
Welcome to the forums! Most of us loved Static Impulse around here. I'm definitely interesting in that piece you're working on translating into English, too.

If you're the guy I think you'll do a fine job. Without getting into the technical stuff, you're definitely the most badass looking drummer who auditioned!  ;D
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jirpo on April 22, 2011, 05:46:30 AM
Haha, I saw the name "Wildoer" as the most recently registered member and wondered if it was you! Thanks for posting and giving us this information, very cool :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DreamerTV on April 22, 2011, 05:46:45 AM
Wow, thanks Peter!

As for me, it's incredible to read that after 25 years DT are still in such an honored, and somehow venerated, position among international musicians. I mean, we all know they are good, but they seems they're still over the top.

As for you, despite your surprise reading you were among those 7, if you got the call it means you definitely can. So, props Peter!.  
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: roccer on April 22, 2011, 05:50:14 AM
Thanks for posting Peter. We hope to keep hearing from you here. I' m sure you did great at the audition, and hopefully we will watch all the auditons soon :)

PS. I remembered how I had loled at this...
hi everyone.  i just wanted to say i am not the new drummer for dream theater.  I did not even heard of dream theater until someone ask me am i new drummer.  sorry to disappoint you all.  keep it metal.

AP
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mladen on April 22, 2011, 05:52:32 AM
To Mladen: I'm the guy at 1:39, Lang at 1:44 and Roddy at 2:02.
Thanks for that, Peter.  :) I wasn't too familiar with your work when Mike left the band, but after hearing your incredible drumming on Static impulse, you were my first choice for the new Dream Theater drummer, even though I had no idea what you look like.  ;D I'm blown away by your playing, and even though I have a feeling you're not the new drummer, I'll be following what you're doing in the future. Great to hear from you.  :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 22, 2011, 05:57:23 AM
Thanks for posting Peter. We hope to keep hearing from you here. I' m sure you did great at the audition, and hopefully we will watch all the auditons soon :)

PS. I remembered how I had loled at this...
hi everyone.  i just wanted to say i am not the new drummer for dream theater.  I did not even heard of dream theater until someone ask me am i new drummer.  sorry to disappoint you all.  keep it metal.

AP
:lol That one was a joke account, but as far as I can tell, Peter is legit.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2011, 05:59:08 AM
First, let me add the obligatory, thanks for posting, Peter, its very cool you took the time to pop on in.
I do have a question for anyone who can answer. Who is the much older guy in the auditions? He looks like Micky Thomas from Jefferson Starship.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nihil-Morari on April 22, 2011, 06:05:10 AM
Wait a second, you drummed on Seven Deadly Pieces?

I've been wanting to check that out since I first saw that trailer you posted, which must've been around 2006.
Great music, great drumming. And how awesome that you've been lurking here and now even posting here!

Thanks for all the info!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 22, 2011, 06:08:19 AM
Thanks so much for posting Peter.  It's great to see great musicians posting here on DT. 
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nihil-Morari on April 22, 2011, 06:09:51 AM
It's great to see great musicians posting here on DT. 

Aww thanks man.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2011, 06:12:18 AM
First, let me add the obligatory, thanks for posting, Peter, its very cool you took the time to pop on in.
I do have a question for anyone who can answer. Who is the much older guy in the auditions? He looks like Micky Thomas from Jefferson Starship.
Can someone please, "take the time" and answer my inquiry please?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 22, 2011, 06:13:16 AM
It's great to see great musicians posting here on DT. 

Aww thanks man.

When I typed that I was wondering who would be the first to do this. :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2011, 06:13:35 AM
Great post Peter, thanks for your time, a real pleasure to have you here.  Oh, and not to sound like a pathetic fan, but your influence, drumming and vocals, helped make Static Impulse album of the year and really, one of the best albums I've heard in the last five years.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 22, 2011, 06:14:25 AM
First, let me add the obligatory, thanks for posting, Peter, its very cool you took the time to pop on in.
I do have a question for anyone who can answer. Who is the much older guy in the auditions? He looks like Micky Thomas from Jefferson Starship.
Can someone please, "take the time" and answer my inquiry please?

I think you're talking about Mike Mangini.  He had the part down the middle with the hair not yet touching the shoulders.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nihil-Morari on April 22, 2011, 06:16:16 AM
First, let me add the obligatory, thanks for posting, Peter, its very cool you took the time to pop on in.
I do have a question for anyone who can answer. Who is the much older guy in the auditions? He looks like Micky Thomas from Jefferson Starship.
Can someone please, "take the time" and answer my inquiry please?

Someone looking like this? (https://www.musicobsession.com/Pictures/j/e/jeffersonstarship338304.jpg)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nihil-Morari on April 22, 2011, 06:16:57 AM
Oh wait, now I look at it again, I guess you mean Virgil Donati. This guy?
(https://www.pearldrum.com/art/artists/images/bio/bio_donati_virgil.jpg)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2011, 06:17:42 AM
First, let me add the obligatory, thanks for posting, Peter, its very cool you took the time to pop on in.
I do have a question for anyone who can answer. Who is the much older guy in the auditions? He looks like Micky Thomas from Jefferson Starship.
Can someone please, "take the time" and answer my inquiry please?

Do you mean Derek Roddy.  Can you quote a timestamp?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tri.ad on April 22, 2011, 06:20:19 AM
Hello Peter, and thanks for posting. Always interesting to get more insight about the audition. Hope you'll stick around for a while. :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: SixDegrees on April 22, 2011, 06:23:10 AM
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Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: skydivingninja on April 22, 2011, 06:28:47 AM
Very cool to see you posting here, Peter!  Glad we didn't scare you off.  Thanks for taking the time to let us a bit more about the auditions! 
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jonny108 on April 22, 2011, 06:31:09 AM
Welcome to the forum Peter, onwards and upwards man! Now you've auditioned for DT I wouldn't be suprised if you get countless bands asking you to join :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tick on April 22, 2011, 06:35:35 AM
Oh wait, now I look at it again, I guess you mean Virgil Donati. This guy?
(https://www.pearldrum.com/art/artists/images/bio/bio_donati_virgil.jpg)

That would be the guy! Thanks. Am I off in saying he resembles Mickey Thomas? Especially if you've seen Micky lately. They look very similar.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: alexbio on April 22, 2011, 06:36:31 AM
Ok in my opinion is Mike Mangini.
-Check out the video at 2.10, they show a drumset.
-Compare that drumset with the one Mangini is using at 2.45, you'll definitely see that the look exactly the same.
-Unless they want to fool us with this video-trick, he's gonna be the drummer.
-You can find a collage picture on my wall to prove that what i'm saying might be true.

I bet 100 bucks that Mangini is the drummer!! DT are you gonna pay for that? :-)

file:///C:/users/alessandro/My%20Pictures/dream_theater_video_collage.bmp
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: skydivingninja on April 22, 2011, 06:45:04 AM
Its been explained that all of the drummers used the same kit.  Doesn't mean anything.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 22, 2011, 06:45:25 AM
I agree that it is most likely Mangini, but not for any of the reasons you just posted. All 7 drummers used the same kit for the auditions.

EDIT: ninja'd
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MajorMatt on April 22, 2011, 06:50:18 AM
Thanks for posting Peter and welcome to the forum! Very cool of you to give us a bit more insight into the audition process, I look forward to seeing the videos and to reading your diary.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: thyer on April 22, 2011, 07:00:50 AM
now mike Mangini web site will be update in may ;-)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ? on April 22, 2011, 07:07:42 AM
Wow, this video raised my interest again! :) I like how they let the fans know who the drummer candidates were. It's also nice to hear some info from Peter himself!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JasonScandopolous on April 22, 2011, 07:17:29 AM
Thanks for posting Mr. Wildoer!  Glad to have your insight on this, it is holding us over until the next video release by DT!

P.S. will check out static impulse later today, I figure I've got two reasons to do so now (JLB & your nice post).
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 22, 2011, 08:23:56 AM
All this said I can also add that I work as a math teacher.   

Hey, that's my major (for high school)! How do you like it?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 22, 2011, 08:24:50 AM
Hey there!

Well finally I feel I can post here. I've been following this forum quite closely since September and I want to thank you all for entertaining reading! Most of all I'm very impressed with the detective work around here and the enormous commitment concerning the audition, fantastic fans!

Thanks for posting!

Quote
I have so many things I've read over the last months that I would like to comment. I don't remember all and I'm not sure how much I can say without destroying the next video(s). I've been a DT fan since I saw the "Pull me under" video on MTV's Headbanger's Ball in the spring of 1993 and I don't consider myself being a guy that just wanted a gig and not being a fan like some may think!

That's really cool to hear.  Sorry if anything I posted came off as presumptuous.

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I want to clarify one thing that was discussed here yesterday regarding the odd meter "test" the guys threw at us. First of all it was not like the normal rehearsal auditioning for DT, I mean it's DT! I was nervous for a month before the audition and when they told me they wanted to try some new ideas and then when they started playing the first idea I almost froze, ha ha ha. I could almost not hear what they were playing! I promise it was not easy.

Well, the guys are very humble and fantastic individuals and told me all the other drummers were kind of surprised too when presented to this test and that it was cool. Like already quoted here I got my head around it so and so and one idea we even jammed around. At the day of my audition even Virgil told me that I was in for a treat at some point on the audition, didn't make me less nervous, ha ha ha!!! All this said I can also add that I work as a math teacher.   ;)  I guess I'm the only one out of all the seven that don't do music full time but work a normal day job.

All of this was really interesting.  I enjoyed how even Virgil thought it was challenging.

If you have the time - How does being a math teacher influence you as a drummer?  Music and math seem to go together a lot, and you have a unique experience with that.

I enjoyed the videos and am looking forward to the English diary.  Thanks again for posting.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on April 22, 2011, 08:32:50 AM
Hey guys. I've been really busy the past few days. Seems like a ton of information has come out. I don't think I have time right now to go back through the thread so if someone doesn't mind, could someone fill me in?

Sorry for being lazy.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 22, 2011, 08:37:52 AM
Hey guys. I've been really busy the past few days. Seems like a ton of information has come out. I don't think I have time right now to go back through the thread so if someone doesn't mind, could someone fill me in?

Sorry for being lazy.

4/21/2011:  DT release video trailer of the new drummer auditions on the band's Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dream-Theater/7677942180).  The video reveals that the following seven drummers auditioned:  1. Mike Mangini 2. Thomas Lang 3. Virgil Donati 4. Marco Minnemann 5. Aquiles Priester 6. Derek Roddy 7. Peter Wildoer.  We still do NOT know when the full video will be released, in what format (online/bonus content with new album/one video vs. several/etc.) or when the new drummer will be announced.

Drummer World thread with some really good posts by Derek Roddy and Peter Wildoer on the auditions.

https://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74093

Excerpt from njdfan's FB chat with Wildoer:

Peter Wildoer -My audition started with two jams where we set the levels for in ears and just felt eachother out, musically that is. ;-) After that we went through the three songs they sent me. I guess you'll get to know what songs it was on the next ep...isode of the DT video. ;-) At last they wanted to try some new ideas. This was HAAAAAAAAARD! The ideas were in weird odd times and not one bar with the same meter. Very cool ideas and I got my head around it so and so after a while. If those ideas end up on the new DT album it will be PROG! :-)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 22, 2011, 08:44:23 AM
Wow. Sounds like you guys had a great time Wildoer. Feels good knowing all the auditionees are real cool people and are connecting with us DT fans.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: emtee on April 22, 2011, 08:50:08 AM
VERY surprised the drummers were allowed to say ANYTHING publicly about the process until the final guy
was named. I thought they would all have to sign confidentiality clauses, gag orders...etc. Interesting
comments by them so far. It will be very interesting to see what the new guy is allowed to offer from a
creative perspective...or if DT just wanted someone to come in a lay down what they envisioned, at least
for this one album anyways.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 08:54:00 AM
Peter, thanks for taking the time to post here.  It means at lot to us as fans and a lot to me as the guy who runs this place.  

Hopefully, if you see some comments from people that come across as negative or critical, you won't be put off by that.  This is a fan site, but we try to keep things somewhat loose and allow people to express criticism and dislikes right along with their praises and their likes.  Sometimes, it's easier to be brought down by the few negative statements and lose sight of the many positives.  But I find that, oftentimes, those who are the most outspoken about their musical dislikes are also the ones who will turn right around and be just as outspoken about the things that they like, so it all kinda comes out in the wash for the most part.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jsem on April 22, 2011, 08:55:30 AM
Subscribed to your youtube channel.  :metal :metal :metal

I loved the "making of Static Impulse" videos, whoever put those up. Swedish countryside epicness. Thanks for posting here Peter!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: erik16 on April 22, 2011, 08:57:40 AM
One idea that has been tossed around a few times is that you can see from the video a nugget that betrays it's Mike Mangini. If that's true then the nugget is as follows:
At 2:10 in the video *snip* the voiceover says: "a new member behind the kit" and then it shows a kit with Zildjian cymbals and two Crash symbals uphigh. Then at 2:44 there's a short view of Mike Mangini and he is using the same cymbals and the same setup. So this could be a hint, a distraction or just a random drumset at 2:10. I think it's either a hint or a random set.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 09:00:29 AM
Please do NOT post links to YouTube.  At least for now, the band does not want the video linked from anywhere outside Facebook, and management has been having YouTube take it down when people have posted it there.  Thank you.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JPX on April 22, 2011, 09:01:08 AM
It will be very interesting to see what the new guy is allowed to offer from a
creative perspective...or if DT just wanted someone to come in a lay down what they envisioned, at least for this one album anyways.

Why would DT get an elite, world class drummer then dictate exactly what they play? Not only that but JP, JM, JR and JLB aren't drummers, so at the most they might suggest a time or feel.
Also from the 'test' that Peter mentioned, it seemed like they wanted to see what these guys could come back with on original passages which to me says they wanted to see their personalities as a drummer come through.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 22, 2011, 09:01:13 AM
They all used the same set.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 09:03:00 AM
 :omg:  I just realized something...

Well finally I feel I can post here. I've been following this forum quite closely since September...

So...er...that would include 4/1, right?   :blush

So, Peter, I guess the next logical question that we all MUST have answered is:  How do you feel about the vocal stylings of the artist known as Rebecca Black?  Inquiring forum members want to know.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JPX on April 22, 2011, 09:03:33 AM
They all used the same set.

The point relates to how the kit is set up.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 22, 2011, 09:06:24 AM
They all used the same set.

Which BTW is something I like.  It makes each drummer's performance about the performance rather than the kit.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: SixDegrees on April 22, 2011, 09:07:44 AM
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Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: erik16 on April 22, 2011, 09:09:18 AM
Ok sorry bosk, won't do it again. Did you create a special colour scheme for PW? As in purple=possible DT drummer/simply musician? Because that's awesome :metal
They all used the same set.

The point relates to how the kit is set up.
Exactly, I was referring to the position of cymbals. It may mean nothing after all.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Frosthawk on April 22, 2011, 09:10:40 AM
Man, as someone who studies a lot of math at uni I am geeking out over Peter being a math teacher. Maybe I shouldn't be, but I am! And I would imagine that would help with complex polyrhythms.

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 22, 2011, 09:11:32 AM
So, Peter, I guess the next logical question that we all MUST have answered is:  How do you feel about the vocal stylings of the artist known as Rebecca Black?  Inquiring forum members want to know.

Cool.... i forgot today is

Friday friday friday
party party party
fun fun fun

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 22, 2011, 09:13:17 AM
Thanks for the post, Peter. It's very nice of you to join in :)
Keep rocking!  :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 09:16:11 AM
Did you create a special colour scheme for PW? As in purple=possible DT drummer/simply musician? Because that's awesome :metal

It's the "Forum VIP" user group, which is reserved for current and former band members and a few others who are close to the band in one capacity or another.  We have had a few people visit the forum from time to time who might fall into those categories, but I don't give that user group if they are posting here "under cover."  Peter is open about who he is, and given his work with James and his being part of the auditions, he definitely qualifies.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: phentalmyst on April 22, 2011, 09:18:48 AM
They all used the same set.

Which BTW is something I like.  It makes each drummer's performance about the performance rather than the kit.

i agree with your context, but it looks like each guy tweaked the kit to their preference, and not just be how close and far things are. ie: mangini's had 5 or so rack toms, whereas lang only used 2. etc. so i'm not sure what you're saying stands up here in full. sure they didn't drag out ALL of their bells n whistles (altho i'd love to see if lang brought out his giant step), but still...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: antigoon on April 22, 2011, 09:22:57 AM
Did you create a special colour scheme for PW? As in purple=possible DT drummer/simply musician? Because that's awesome :metal
We have had a few people visit the forum from time to time who might fall into those categories, but I don't give that user group if they are posting here "under cover." 

Aniland is John Myung, isn't he? It's OK Bosk, you can tell us.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aquiles on April 22, 2011, 09:24:53 AM
hi again guys.  is me.  aquiles.  well now you know more about the auditions so i guess i cannot hide any longer being there.  i can say was really fun rocking out and meeting the guys.  

and don't believe that arrich guy.  i think he is joke not me.

keep it metal.

AP
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 09:25:50 AM
Did you create a special colour scheme for PW? As in purple=possible DT drummer/simply musician? Because that's awesome :metal
We have had a few people visit the forum from time to time who might fall into those categories, but I don't give that user group if they are posting here "under cover." 

Aniland is John Myung, isn't he? It's OK Bosk, you can tell us.

???  Wait...I thought YOU were John Myung.  I'm confused...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 22, 2011, 09:27:12 AM
John's threads would be succinct and concise.  Two words I would not use in describing Aniland.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: antigoon on April 22, 2011, 09:31:38 AM
:lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: skydivingninja on April 22, 2011, 09:31:57 AM
I agree that it is most likely Mangini, but not for any of the reasons you just posted. All 7 drummers used the same kit for the auditions.

EDIT: skydivingninja'd

FTFY
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 22, 2011, 09:38:36 AM
OFFICIAL Youtube link to the trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yljVzWLlNa0&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 09:40:01 AM
Sweet.  Thanks, Reap.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: YtseJamittaja on April 22, 2011, 09:40:28 AM
They all used the same set.

The point relates to how the kit is set up.

Drummer perspective:
What is interesting they had Zildjian cymbals but MP has always played with Sabian. I'm not sure what drum set it is but I think Tama because octobans.
So anybody knows how they get this drum set?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 22, 2011, 09:40:56 AM
:omg:  I just realized something...

Well finally I feel I can post here. I've been following this forum quite closely since September...

So...er...that would include 4/1, right?   :blush

So, Peter, I guess the next logical question that we all MUST have answered is:  How do you feel about the vocal stylings of the artist known as Rebecca Black?  Inquiring forum members want to know.

Too funny, I think I just pissed myself LOL.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 22, 2011, 09:43:26 AM
Hey there!

Well finally I feel I can post here. I've been following this forum quite closely since September and I want to thank you all for entertaining reading! Most of all I'm very impressed with the detective work around here and the enormous commitment concerning the audition, fantastic fans!

One thing I'm still learning are all the abbreviation you and all DT (see even I use these abbreviations now, ha ha ha) fans use like JP, JR, ANTR etc... It's like you have your own language.   ;)
Hi, Peter, and welcome.  It's great to have you here, and I hope you will remain somewhat active when time allows!

Also, watch out for Charlie.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 09:46:46 AM
Hey, you know, while we're on the subject, I just realized something...  Does anyone know what day it is today?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 22, 2011, 09:47:44 AM
Hey, you know, while we're on the subject, I just realized something...  Does anyone know what day it is today?

It's my birthday!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 22, 2011, 09:48:13 AM
Hey, you know, while we're on the subject, I just realized something...  Does anyone know what day it is today?
Friday, Friday

Gotta get down on Friday

BTW, last night's Tonight Show was a repeat of their episode several weeks ago featuring guest Rebecca Black.  She performed the song with the house band.

Glorious.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: erik16 on April 22, 2011, 09:49:41 AM
So, will Mr Aquiles also get VIP status?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: emindead on April 22, 2011, 09:50:28 AM
Hey, you know, while we're on the subject, I just realized something...  Does anyone know what day it is today?
It's GOOD FRIDAY!!! Three days without Jesus :(

Also, could any mod please add that official link to the OP?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 09:50:51 AM
Hey, you know, while we're on the subject, I just realized something...  Does anyone know what day it is today?
Friday, Friday

Gotta get down on Friday

Winner!!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 09:51:21 AM
Also, could any mod please add that official link to the OP?

I already added it to the "what we know" thread.  But, yes, good thought.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 22, 2011, 09:52:18 AM
WTF just happened to my forum look preference?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 22, 2011, 09:52:25 AM
JP: "Dream Theater has never been just one person."

Does anybody else think that this was a sort of refutation of Portnoy's hefty control over the band in past years? As a sort of, "Look, those days are kaput."
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 22, 2011, 09:53:06 AM
JP: "Dream Theater has never been just one person."

Does anybody else think that this was a sort of refutation of Portnoy's hefty control over the band in past years? As a sort of, "Look, those days are kaput."
Not necessarily.

But maybe.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 22, 2011, 09:58:29 AM
AHH my eyes!




And thanks for the link, Reap.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Arch Benemy on April 22, 2011, 09:59:13 AM
So this has all been very interesting. I hope people outside the states will have a chance to watch this documentary at ~ the same time as the US viewers, without the surprise being 'spoiled.' It seems almost certain that Derek Roddy is out of the equation, which will surprise nobody. He is a great drummer, and very well known and respected within death metal circles, but I think everybody knew he wasn't going to fit well with the DT sound. He even said something to the same effect himself. In fact I can't think how anybody within the DT camp would have considered him a potential replacement. A cynic might say that he was only included in the audition process to attract interest from fans of a completely different genre.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 22, 2011, 09:59:39 AM
WTF just happened to my forum look preference?

Mine just switched to Miss Black's page.  bosk, you having fun? :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 22, 2011, 10:00:00 AM
WTF just happened to my forum look preference?
Oh, I see.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: wilgod3p on April 22, 2011, 10:01:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7ReCtipPac   :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 22, 2011, 10:01:46 AM
JP: "Dream Theater has never been just one person."

Does anybody else think that this was a sort of refutation of Portnoy's hefty control over the band in past years? As a sort of, "Look, those days are kaput."

I think it's a direct message telling why they did not accept MP requests.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Arch Benemy on April 22, 2011, 10:05:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7ReCtipPac   :lol
I like this version. Pretty freaky though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AcYsHkV6n4

 :omg:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 22, 2011, 10:06:40 AM
LOL OMG.

Anyway, I wouldn't worry about your place coming across as "negative" bosk. I mean, I think this place is a far cry more positive than most place on the interwebz. I'm sure Peter has been on Youtube before so I'd be very surprised if any negativity here (which is tame at best) would actually phase him
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 10:12:19 AM
Anyway, I wouldn't worry about your place coming across as "negative" bosk. I mean, I think this place is a far cry more positive than most place on the interwebz. I'm sure Peter has been on Youtube before so I'd be very surprised if any negativity here (which is tame at best) would actually phase him

I know.  But I can't help but think back to the first time I met Mike and was introduced to him as the forum admin for this place.  I was shocked at how visibly hurt he was over some things he had read here.  And while I feel he overreacted and focused too much on the negative and not on the overwhelming majority of positive comments that are usually here, it was a reminder to me that sometimes it is the few negative comments that can stick in people's minds.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: KevShmev on April 22, 2011, 10:15:10 AM
You want to see a negative band forum?  Go to the Rush Counterparts forum. 

90% of the band forums I have seen over the years have been either way too fanboyish or way too critical (constructive criticism is never a bad thing, but when over the top criticism is levied in seemingly almost every thread, it is no good).  This is one of the very few that seems to have a good middle ground, which is probably why it is the one I have stuck with.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 22, 2011, 10:15:34 AM
Anyway, I wouldn't worry about your place coming across as "negative" bosk. I mean, I think this place is a far cry more positive than most place on the interwebz. I'm sure Peter has been on Youtube before so I'd be very surprised if any negativity here (which is tame at best) would actually phase him

I know.  But I can't help but think back to the first time I met Mike and was introduced to him as the forum admin for this place.  I was shocked at how visibly hurt he was over some things he had read here.  And while I feel he overreacted and focused too much on the negative and not on the overwhelming majority of positive comments that are usually here, it was a reminder to me that sometimes it is the few negative comments that can stick in people's minds.

was this after he left the band? when you met him, i mean.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 10:16:58 AM
No.  It was before.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 22, 2011, 10:21:47 AM
What I'm really excited about is to see the different approaches of the drummers to the songs they had to learn. I really hope to see a lot of variety.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 22, 2011, 10:25:41 AM
I know.  But I can't help but think back to the first time I met Mike and was introduced to him as the forum admin for this place.  I was shocked at how visibly hurt he was over some things he had read here.  And while I feel he overreacted and focused too much on the negative and not on the overwhelming majority of positive comments that are usually here, it was a reminder to me that sometimes it is the few negative comments that can stick in people's minds.

Well just give me unchecked easily-abusable admin powers and I'll uh, make sure to follow SnakeEye's every post  :angel:
You want to see a negative band forum?  Go to the Rush Counterparts forum.  

90% of the band forums I have seen over the years have been either way too fanboyish or way too critical (constructive criticism is never a bad thing, but when over the top criticism is levied in seemingly almost every thread, it is no good).  This is one of the very few that seems to have a good middle ground, which is probably why it is the one I have stuck with.

The grass really is greener on the other side. For me, as a casual Rush fan who owns about half their albums, likes them, would go see them live but isn't obsessive, etc... I can't even fathom what kind of 'debates' are going on in the Rush world right now or have been... IĎd guess things are pretty similar for the average DT fan.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 22, 2011, 10:30:04 AM
What I'm really excited about is to see the different approaches of the drummers to the songs they had to learn. I really hope to see a lot of variety.

rumborak


Yea, I'd love to see them put their take on it.  A different drummer's metronome might give a little spin to their songs.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 22, 2011, 10:33:58 AM
Watched it again. I can't wait to see the full thing !
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mebert78 on April 22, 2011, 10:43:12 AM
Watched it again. I can't wait to see the full thing !

Yea, I must have watched it like 20-25 times already.  I can't get enough. 
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 22, 2011, 10:44:54 AM
Watched it again. I can't wait to see the full thing !

Yea, I must have watched it like 20-25 times already.  I can't get enough. 

this
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mebert78 on April 22, 2011, 11:02:38 AM
"He wasn't trying to play Dream Theater, but he was being Dream Theater."
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 22, 2011, 11:03:27 AM
From who?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: erik16 on April 22, 2011, 12:35:53 PM
I think it was James.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DeanTheater on April 22, 2011, 01:20:34 PM
I think it was James.


TWAS.  goosebumps
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mebert78 on April 22, 2011, 02:13:30 PM
I just realized one of my fav parts of the trailer is toward the end when The Count of Tuscany is playing in the background.  The footage quickly flips thru each drummer as they play along to that exact part of TCoT and it ends with a big splash by Wildoer as MP hits the splash.  Awesome.  It starts at like 2:23.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JasonScandopolous on April 22, 2011, 02:16:51 PM
I just realized one of my fav parts of the trailer is toward the end when The Count of Tuscany is playing in the background.  The footage quickly flips thru each drummer as they play along to that exact part of TCoT and it ends with a big splash by Wildoer as MP hits the splash.  Awesome.  It starts at like 2:23.

Definetely my favorite part as well...

I'm going to show this to my g/f tonight, who has been patient with my DT obsession/fandom for years now... I wonder if she will think it's cool as I and most of us here do, or lame, as some here and most on MP's forum do (havent looked at opinion anywhere else yet).
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Lowdz on April 22, 2011, 02:31:34 PM
Don't know why but the clip of Mangini throwing the sticks away at the end pissed me off, as though he had the gig already. But I'm in a bad mood so maybe it's just that. Found it a bit arrogant.
On the plus side I got a funny feeling when I saw TL playing along to DT. He impresses me more than the other candidates.

I'd like to add my congrats to peter Wildoer for the great job on the drums on Static Impulse. As I've said before, the growls don't do it for me usually but I quite enjoy them on SI as a contrast to the mighty JLB.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mebert78 on April 22, 2011, 02:36:05 PM
Does Mangini have blue streaks in his hair at 1:05?  Looks like he does, but I'm not sure.  That's very MP-ish!

EDIT: No streaks in the later close-up of Mangini, so maybe it's just my computer.  Never mind.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nikostheater on April 22, 2011, 02:44:33 PM
I think the documentary is very cool thing from the band to do..i love it.
I am like Mebert here,i am watching all the time the trailer and i can't wait!

I know that Mangini is the most probable candidate but i am rooting for Peter Wildoer also.
His work on Static Impulse blew me away and i think from what i saw that he had a good time at the auditions..
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: D_Halco on April 22, 2011, 02:44:56 PM
Greetings all,

Somewhere-between-long-and-short-time reader and first-time poster.  Been a DT fan for a few years now, so obviously I cannot speak from a perspective of having been there since the beginning but I do consider myself a bigger-than-average fan, these guys have been a positive influence on my personal musical landscape since 2006 and there are varying things I enjoy about every single one of their albums (besides the first which I have not heard yet).

Anyway, about this documentary: I think at first I was taken aback by the fact that DT actually had a doc made about the process of finding a new drummer, and resistant to the idea.  Now after having thought about it and seeing the trailer for it, I think this doc looks to be not only very exciting and enjoyable but very insightful as well, a more personal look into the collaborative process that these guys share.  Also, besides raising the stock of the band considerably, I believe it can only help the portfolio of each drummer who auditioned as well (If resumes actually exist for musicians, to be able to put on there 'Chosen to audition for progressive metal band Dream Theater' would be a dream come true for ANY drummer!)

In the end it is win-win for all involved: the band, the drummers, and the fans.  I really am excited to see this thing when it is released and cannot wait until DT11 comes out! 

Anywho, nice to meet all of ya and look forward to the lively discussions I will inevitably take part of!

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 22, 2011, 02:55:14 PM
Welcome!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 22, 2011, 02:57:28 PM
Greetings all,

Somewhere-between-long-and-short-time reader and first-time poster.  Been a DT fan for a few years now, so obviously I cannot speak from a perspective of having been there since the beginning but I do consider myself a bigger-than-average fan, these guys have been a positive influence on my personal musical landscape since 2006 and there are varying things I enjoy about every single one of their albums (besides the first which I have not heard yet).

Anyway, about this documentary: I think at first I was taken aback by the fact that DT actually had a doc made about the process of finding a new drummer, and resistant to the idea.  Now after having thought about it and seeing the trailer for it, I think this doc looks to be not only very exciting and enjoyable but very insightful as well, a more personal look into the collaborative process that these guys share.  Also, besides raising the stock of the band considerably, I believe it can only help the portfolio of each drummer who auditioned as well (If resumes actually exist for musicians, to be able to put on there 'Chosen to audition for progressive metal band Dream Theater' would be a dream come true for ANY drummer!)

In the end it is win-win for all involved: the band, the drummers, and the fans.  I really am excited to see this thing when it is released and cannot wait until DT11 comes out! 

Anywho, nice to meet all of ya and look forward to the lively discussions I will inevitably take part of!



+1

I agree. Not only did this whole documentary deal reinstall interest in the whole drummer situation, it will also give that "behind the scenes" aspect MP brought that people have been wanting.

hitting two stones with one bird, right?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 22, 2011, 02:57:45 PM
On the plus side I got a funny feeling when I saw TL playing along to DT. He impresses me more than the other candidates.

I know what you mean; he seemed quite serious and intent on playing. From a few videos I've seen of him, he struck me as a fairly relaxed, and playful guy. Add in his comment about trying to find "a home in a band," and he seems to really want to be there. Personally, I'm rooting for either him or Mangini as the drummer.

Anywho, nice to meet all of ya and look forward to the lively discussions I will inevitably take part of!

Nice to meet you, Halco. Welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 22, 2011, 03:09:18 PM
What I'm really excited about is to see the different approaches of the drummers to the songs they had to learn. I really hope to see a lot of variety.

rumborak

Yeah. I'm wondering if any of them decided to maybe go off track and 'ad lib' a bit or if they just robotically played MP's parts.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: D_Halco on April 22, 2011, 03:13:03 PM
@Ricky-Agreed!

@Aramatheis & hefdaddy42-Thank and and it's great to be here!

Everyone give me a while so's I can figure out how to do the whole "quoting" thing! (I'm 25 and have an iPhone but I'll be damned if I can figure out message board controls easily!)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 03:15:49 PM
I think we need to start a petition demanding that the band include Jordan's "You Wanna Know Who The Drummer Is?" video on the inevitable DVD release.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jmbeat on April 22, 2011, 03:17:26 PM
I don't know if this has been said but I love the fact that it's James to give the news to the new drummer.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 03:18:23 PM
I don't know if this has been said but I love the fact that it's James to give the news to the new drummer.

I can't decide whether that part is real or whether it was just staged for dramatic effect for the video.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on April 22, 2011, 03:20:36 PM
I don't know if this has been said but I love the fact that it's James to give the news to the new drummer.

I can't decide whether that part is real or whether it was just staged for dramatic effect for the video.

I think it was real, but made more dramatic because it was being filmed.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 22, 2011, 03:21:47 PM
I don't know if this has been said but I love the fact that it's James to give the news to the new drummer.

I can't decide whether that part is real or whether it was just staged for dramatic effect for the video.

I wonder how many times they filmed it. Like if they got his voicemail the first time. Those would be great outtakes.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 03:23:31 PM
I don't know if this has been said but I love the fact that it's James to give the news to the new drummer.

I can't decide whether that part is real or whether it was just staged for dramatic effect for the video.

I wonder how many times they filmed it. Like if they got his voicemail the first time. Those would be great outtakes.

Or if he hung up on them the first time thinking it was a prank call.  :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jmbeat on April 22, 2011, 03:24:01 PM
I don't know if this has been said but I love the fact that it's James to give the news to the new drummer.

I can't decide whether that part is real or whether it was just staged for dramatic effect for the video.

I wonder how many times they filmed it. Like if they got his voicemail the first time. Those would be great outtakes.
i think he was in the studio while they were in the control room when he said it
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 22, 2011, 03:33:08 PM
I don't know if this has been said but I love the fact that it's James to give the news to the new drummer.

I can't decide whether that part is real or whether it was just staged for dramatic effect for the video.

I wonder how many times they filmed it. Like if they got his voicemail the first time. Those would be great outtakes.
i think he was in the studio while they were in the control room when he said it

I thought that at first too, but you can clearly see them talk into a phone.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Lowdz on April 22, 2011, 03:39:36 PM
So it looks like it isn't Lang as he looks like being at the Mexico City Meinl Drum Festival when DT are playing in Kiev
https://www.meinldrumfestival.com/

bummer
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jmbeat on April 22, 2011, 03:42:06 PM
And to all the people that are not happy with this form of announcing the drummer in the bands chosen format, I have a feeling that if it was another member other than MP being replaced, I think MP would have gone about it in the same fashion.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 22, 2011, 03:45:49 PM
I have no problems with what they are doing.  I can't wait to see more.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Raziel666 on April 22, 2011, 03:51:55 PM
So it looks like it isn't Lang as he looks like being at the Mexico City Meinl Drum Festival when DT are playing in Kiev
https://www.meinldrumfestival.com/

bummer

What a shame... Lang was my initial vote and he got my vote again after the video of the 7 was posted on FB.

Now, even though it is rumored that Minnemann has said that he didn't get the gig, I hope it's him. I don't know, but Mike Mangini doesn't strike me as the new Theater drummer. Has Virgil Donati scheduled anything for this summer? :/
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 22, 2011, 03:58:02 PM
I have no problems with what they are doing.  I can't wait to see more.

+1

for me at least, too much speculation has been put on who the new drummer is, as opposed to what the new DT is as a whole. To me, that's much more important. I don't care who the new drummer is, as long as he helps DT's new album become epic.

and wildoer, I know you are lurking in the shadows. you can't fool the big nasty.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 22, 2011, 04:01:14 PM
The process they're using doesn't bother me at all.  I actually kind of think it's cool.  As far as WHO it will be, the way I see it the Band is the best judge.  THEY know what works for them chemistry wise.  No matter who we think is the best choice... I defer too them  ;D  That is some serious talent that attended....  I think regardless it will be a win/win for us.

Special thanks to Peter for stopping by...  :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 22, 2011, 04:20:03 PM
So it looks like it isn't Lang as he looks like being at the Mexico City Meinl Drum Festival when DT are playing in Kiev
https://www.meinldrumfestival.com/

bummer

[Norbert Saemann continues, "I'm currently working on putting the line up together. Meinl artists who have been invited include Ozzy Osbourne's Tommy Clufetos, Prince's drummer Chris Coleman, Derek Roddy, Thomas Lang and a few others. We will also invite some of our national Mexican endorsers of course.]

It says that Lang and Roddy are invited. That doesn't necessarily mean that they'll be there, does it?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Raoul Sanchez on April 22, 2011, 04:23:15 PM
This has already happened, back before Christmas.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chucke on April 22, 2011, 04:30:18 PM
Every time I watch the clip I notice something different.

Look at 2:11. It is funny as hell.

James is saying "We've been touched by some magic here, but I think there is still more to come"

JR and JP are looking at him while he is speaking, while JM is clearly not even paying attention. He is looking the other direction with his arms crossed tapping his finger on his elbow. He is probably thinking, come on let's get this crap over with so I can go practice the new songs.

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 22, 2011, 04:40:38 PM
I would really like to see Aquiles as a new drummer...but I doubt it's going to happen...
I sometimes think, that everything about drummer case is set up, only for promotional stuff because of RR... and I don't like it, it really starts to remind some reality shows...as much I love DT music I do not like what is going with them right now... waiting for the new album, hope that it will be awesome...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mebert78 on April 22, 2011, 04:41:03 PM
Every time I watch the clip I notice something different.

Look at 2:11. It is funny as hell.

James is saying "We've been touched by some magic here, but I think there is still more to come"

JR and JP are looking at him while he is speaking, while JM is clearly not even paying attention. He is looking the other direction with his arms crossed tapping his finger on his elbow. He is probably thinking, come on let's get this crap over with so I can go practice the new songs.



LOL.  Myung is also tapping his fingers there, like he's saying: "Come on, guys.  Let's speed this up."
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Wildoer on April 22, 2011, 05:09:55 PM
Hey there again!

Wow, I'll try to answer most of the questions. First, thanks A LOT for all your kind words!!! Makes me very happy. You guys deserve to get some info after all these months.   :tup

Some of the posts I want to quote are not visible in the "Topic Summary" so I'll try to use different styles instead. Hope it's okay!

robwebster
Oh brilliant! Who's your favourite member? It's me, right?
Genuinely though, lovely to see you, and cheers for going to the trouble to speak to us 'orrible lot. Really exciting to hear about the process from "your end."
How much were you communicating with the other drummers throughout the process? What with speaking to Virgil and all that.


Wildoer
Of course you're my favourite board member!  ;)  As are the rest of you guys... Regarding you guys being a 'orrible lot, there have been posts that I didn't like reading but that's the freedom of speech. Not everybody like you as "simple" is that. But at some points I think one can take this too serious and hurt others that perhaps can't even defend themselves. I mean this is all about music, great music, and it's not the end of the world if something happens. Well, enough of this and on to the fun parts...


I was communicating the other drummers for the first time just days after I got the list for the audition. I just had to, I mean all of them are huge explorers of the drumming art and as I said, influences to me. Simply had to tell them how honored I was being among them! I only met Virgil in person and saw Mike Mangini from a distance when I was lurking the first day outside the audition place, ha ha ha...  :lol

Like some of you might have read, I met Virgil for about two hours at the hotel and that was amazing. He's definitely one of my top three influences! After the auditions I once again contacted all the others and just briefly "discussed" the audition. After that I've been in contact sporadically with them.


Perpetual Change
Welcome to the forums! Most of us loved Static Impulse around here. I'm definitely interesting in that piece you're working on translating into English, too.

If you're the guy I think you'll do a fine job. Without getting into the technical stuff, you're definitely the most badass looking drummer who auditioned! 


Wildoer
Glad you like Static Impulse! I'm really happy how that album came out. I know some of you hate my screaming and I'm sorry for that, but it was not me that entered the studio and said "Hey guys, I will do some screaming on some songs even though it's JLB's album and that's it".  :lol  Both James and Matt wanted this approach and when they found out that I did lead vocals (screams) on Christofer MalmstrŲm's (Darkane) solo album "Non-Human Level" and also some vocals on the Darkane albums they wanted me to do the growls.

You can read more on this and the Static Impulse album in the interview I did for Carl Begai here:
https://carlbegai.com/2010/11/15/peter-wildoer-thunder-and-the-beast/

Ha ha, most badass looking guy! Have you seen the other six drummers? They are top modells!  ;)  My wife got a crush on Aquiles when we met him at the audition, so he must be better looking than me. :lol

I will post here when my journal about the audition is translated into english. Might be interesting to se it from one of the guys?


DreamerTV
Wow, thanks Peter!
As for me, it's incredible to read that after 25 years DT are still in such an honored, and somehow venerated, position among international musicians. I mean, we all know they are good, but they seems they're still over the top.
As for you, despite your surprise reading you were among those 7, if you got the call it means you definitely can. So, props Peter!


Wildoer
DT is perhaps just that important because they've been around for so long and kept to what they believe in. Of course they have changed over the years, but imagine that they are different persons and 25 years older. I've been playing with Christofer MalmstrŲm (Darkane) for more than 20 years and we've grown in different directions over the years but always kept true to what we want to do, not what others wants us to do! I bet the same goes for DT.

Besides this, the DT guys are fantastic musicians and for that they should be respected, period.

Thanks for your kind words abut me being one of the seven! It's these words that helps when you got bashed on YouTube or elsewhere. :)


Mladen
Thanks for that, Peter.   I wasn't too familiar with your work when Mike left the band, but after hearing your incredible drumming on Static impulse, you were my first choice for the new Dream Theater drummer, even though I had no idea what you look like, I didn't even search your name on google.   I'm blown away by your playing, and even though I have a feeling you're not the new drummer, I'll be following what you're doing in the future. Great to hear from you. 


Wildoer
Thanks a lot Mladen for you way too kind words!!! :) Very glad you enjoy the SI album! I think you were the first one that voted for me in the poll and after that I remembered your avatar. Later on I think you changed your vote though, correct? If that's the case I forgive you for that... :lol

Very cool if you want to follow what I do next!!!


tick
First, let me add the obligatory, thanks for posting, Peter, its very cool you took the time to pop on in.
I do have a question for anyone who can answer. Who is the much older guy in the auditions? He looks like Micky Thomas from Jefferson Starship.


Wildoer
I'm just glad that you like my post! I think you got your answer right? When I got the audition list with the drummers I checked everybody's age at Wikipedia. I know you can't trust Wikipedia for a fact but all their ages seem to be correct. I'm the youngest and I'm not even you anymore, ha ha ha...


Nihil-Morari

Wait a second, you drummed on Seven Deadly Pieces?
I've been wanting to check that out since I first saw that trailer you posted, which must've been around 2006.
Great music, great drumming. And how awesome that you've been lurking here and now even posting here!
Thanks for all the info!


Wildoer
Yes, it's me playing drums, tambourine with my foot and wood blocks on the "Seven Deadly Pieces". That DVD is amazing and it features a lot of other cool stuff from Lalle Larsson and is a must have. If you guys haven't checked out Lalle Larsson YOU HAVE TO!!! He's a fantastic pianist/keyboard player and composer. He's in the studio as we speak recording a new "Agents of Mercy" album together with Roine Stolt (Transatlantic). Lalle also plays with Karmakanic and his own band Lalle Larsson's Weaveworld. Check that last band, features my good friend Walle Wahlgren on drums and he's amazing too! Lalle and me also did Electrocution-250 "Electric cartoon music from hell" together with american guitar wizard Todd Duane. Check this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4cCyvkZPOs
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqTASEWuVIg

Ha ha, yeah I've been lurking in the shadows here. :) By the way, love your avatar!


wolfking
Great post Peter, thanks for your time, a real pleasure to have you here.  Oh, and not to sound like a pathetic fan, but your influence, drumming and vocals, helped make Static Impulse album of the year and really, one of the best albums I've heard in the last five years.


Wildoer
It's a pleasure finally being here! Wow, SI album of the year, cooooooool! I'm very flattered you think I helped make that a great album!!! :) Cheers


JasonScandopolous
Thanks for posting Mr. Wildoer!  Glad to have your insight on this, it is holding us over until the next video release by DT!

P.S. will check out static impulse later today, I figure I've got two reasons to do so now (JLB & your nice post).


Wildoer
I'm actually also looking forward to the next video! I think this is a cool way to present all this and I just love seeing the other drummers and their approach. I noticed a lot of people on different forums, news pages etc that really think this is stupid and a sell out. Personally I love to as much of my favourite bands/musicians and also as much behind the scenes as possible. We always do studio video diaries with Darkane because I want to see that stuff with my favourite bands. But I do understand everybody wants to know who the new drummer is.

Yeah, please check out Static Impulse, at least I of course think it's a great album!  ;)


Jamesman
Quote from: Wildoer on Today at 06:11:18 AM
All this said I can also add that I work as a math teacher.   

Hey, that's my major (for high school)! How do you like it?


Wildoer
Cool that math is your major. I've been teaching at a high school (students are between 16-19 years old) here in Sweden for the last eleven years and I like it. Wouldn't mind to play music full time though. I also tach drums as it's a "music school". One thing though is that most students don't like math but that just makes it more fun to try to make it interesting.


ReaPsTA
That's really cool to hear.  Sorry if anything I posted came off as presumptuous.
All of this was really interesting.  I enjoyed how even Virgil thought it was challenging.
If you have the time - How does being a math teacher influence you as a drummer?  Music and math seem to go together a lot, and you have a unique experience with that.
I enjoyed the videos and am looking forward to the English diary.  Thanks again for posting.


Wildoer
No worries! I personally think it's very hard to express nuances in text especially since I'm writing in english and I'm swedish.

Yeah, if Virgil think it's hard then IT IS HARD! :)

I've had a lot of use in thinking logical and seeing structures and systems in complex music. Especially when coming up with new practicing routines where you turn and twist the simplest exercises and put them together forward, backward etc. Also I've had a lot of use when "calculating" polyrhythms. I have a great way of learning polyrhythms and then learn to hear and feel them. Here's an example of some stuff that I like to do:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=c93Yk_9qKDs

At 0:21 it starts with some polyrhythmic improvisation and at 0:48 I first play two bars of normal 4/4, then at 0:51 the stack (my right hand) start playing 5 against 4 for two 4/4 bars and at 0:55 the snare and kick join the 5 against 4 playing a normal beat but in 5 against 4 turning into a polymetric beat as I like to call it. Very musch inspired by Virgil Donati!

I will post my system of learning polyrhythms on my webpage as soon as I can find the time.

So yes, I personally think math can be helpful at some points but doesn't really help with the groove.  ;)



bŲsk1
It's the "Forum VIP" user group, which is reserved for current and former band members and a few others who are close to the band in one capacity or another.  We have had a few people visit the forum from time to time who might fall into those categories, but I don't give that user group if they are posting here "under cover."  Peter is open about who he is, and given his work with James and his being part of the auditions, he definitely qualifies.


Wildoer
I'm honored!!! Thanks bŲsk1.  :tup



ricky
and wildoer, I know you are lurking in the shadows. you can't fool the big nasty.


Wildoer
You're right about that, muuuaaahhh hhaaa hhaaa ha ha ha ha........  :hat




Cheers and thanks for the war welcome over here! Hope this didn't turn out to be too long and no fun reading.
Peter
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 22, 2011, 05:15:09 PM
It's just awesome that you take time out of your hectic schedule too answer folks questions.  You're definatly a class act Sir!  Thanks!!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 22, 2011, 05:17:45 PM
i luv this guy <3

you are officially welcomed to the DT forums by the big nasty.

please post more?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 22, 2011, 05:19:10 PM
Thanks for the responses Peter. It's very thoughtful.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: wolfking on April 22, 2011, 05:19:54 PM
What a fucking amazing guy.  I'm gonna go listen to Expanding Senses!  :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DreamerTV on April 22, 2011, 05:21:36 PM
Wow! You're really a great person!!

And also a great drummer, of course! :D Nice to have you here!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 22, 2011, 05:24:40 PM
I'm actually also looking forward to the next video! I think this is a cool way to present all this and I just love seeing the other drummers and their approach. I noticed a lot of people on different forums, news pages etc that really think this is stupid and a sell out. Personally I love to as much of my favourite bands/musicians and also as much behind the scenes as possible.
I completely agree, and it's great to see you post as such! We do have our share of cynics here on the forum, but actually the feeling towards this documentary has been overwhelmingly positive here (just go here - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=22344.msg855308#top - to see 93% of people liking it) so I think compared to a lot of the internet, we don't do too badly. :biggrin:

What sort of impression have you got from the other guys about whether they like the documentary approach? I'm sure it will suit some of you more than others, but I was wondering if anyone seemed particularly unhappy with it or if everyone thought it was pretty cool.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Wildoer on April 22, 2011, 05:31:47 PM
Thanks a lot to all of you!

Makes it even more fun to post here.

Yes, it's very cool that most people like the documentary over here. I posted some thoughts on the Drummerworld forum but some people there really don't like it. I just think it's great to know that we'll see all these great drummers behind the scenes. I LOVE IT!  :tup

Cheers
Peter
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 05:34:44 PM
Thank YOU for posting here and sharing your experiences and perspective on all this.  We as fans are obviously eating it up.  Since the "official" band forums shut down a few years ago and I set up this place, we've sort of felt like the bastard step-children, so we love it when band members and those close to them drop in and share information.  

...Well, except for David Prater.  We pretty much did the Internet equivalent of tarring and feathering him and running him out of here on a rail.  But that's another story.  :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 22, 2011, 05:36:21 PM
I just think it's great to know that we'll see all these great drummers behind the scenes.
Honestly, I can't wait for the rest of the videos/documentaries. I'm pumped!


Props to whoever came up with the idea  :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: j on April 22, 2011, 05:36:54 PM
P-Will,

I don't know anything about drumming, but I'm enjoying reading your insights.  Thanks for taking the time to post! :tup

-J
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bloop on April 22, 2011, 05:37:25 PM
Mr. Wildoer, your avatar is incredible.   :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 22, 2011, 05:43:10 PM
Thanks a lot to all of you!

Makes it even more fun to post here.

Yes, it's very cool that most people like the documentary over here. I posted some thoughts on the Drummerworld forum but some people there really don't like it. I just think it's great to know that we'll see all these great drummers behind the scenes. I LOVE IT!  :tup

Cheers
Peter

+1

Like I said in the other thread, the documentary generates positive publicity not just for DT, but also ALL of the drummers involved.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Wildoer on April 22, 2011, 05:52:27 PM
Mr. Wildoer, your avatar is incredible.   :tup

Ha ha, I just love LEGO. My son is five and that makes it legit for me to play with it!  :lol

A friend of mine built it for me.

Cheers
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Wildoer on April 22, 2011, 05:53:44 PM
Thanks a lot to all of you!

Makes it even more fun to post here.

Yes, it's very cool that most people like the documentary over here. I posted some thoughts on the Drummerworld forum but some people there really don't like it. I just think it's great to know that we'll see all these great drummers behind the scenes. I LOVE IT!  :tup

Cheers
Peter

+1

Like I said in the other thread, the documentary generates positive publicity not just for DT, but also ALL of the drummers involved.



Ooohh, and thanks for the war welcome "Big Nasty"!!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 22, 2011, 05:54:20 PM
Thank YOU for posting here and sharing your experiences and perspective on all this.  We as fans are obviously eating it up.  Since the "official" band forums shut down a few years ago and I set up this place, we've sort of felt like the bastard step-children, so we love it when band members and those close to them drop in and share information.  

...Well, except for David Prater.  We pretty much did the Internet equivalent of tarring and feathering him and running him out of here on a rail.  But that's another story.  :lol

You know, I missed that (I think I was on a long study ban or my internet was down or something). What happened?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: STEVETHEATER on April 22, 2011, 06:01:44 PM
DAMN!!!... isn't Peter just one of the coolest guys in rock today.... after MP ofcourse.  ;)  :P

Welcome to the forum Peter!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 06:06:12 PM
Thank YOU for posting here and sharing your experiences and perspective on all this.  We as fans are obviously eating it up.  Since the "official" band forums shut down a few years ago and I set up this place, we've sort of felt like the bastard step-children, so we love it when band members and those close to them drop in and share information. 

...Well, except for David Prater.  We pretty much did the Internet equivalent of tarring and feathering him and running him out of here on a rail.  But that's another story.  :lol

You know, I missed that (I think I was on a long study ban or my internet was down or something). What happened?

He is user Havona in this thread:  https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=207.msg50566#msg50566 
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 22, 2011, 06:07:38 PM
Mr. Wildoer, your avatar is incredible.   :tup

Ha ha, I just love LEGO. My son is five and that makes it legit for me to play with it!  :lol

A friend of mine built it for me.

Cheers

You can never be too old to play with LEGO  ;D
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TAC on April 22, 2011, 06:07:46 PM
That's great that Peter W. is posting. It really is appreciated.

My question for Peter would be: Did John Myung actually speak to you during the audition? :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on April 22, 2011, 06:22:11 PM
Mr. Wildoer, you are awesome.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkEternalNight on April 22, 2011, 06:27:59 PM
Yeah, did Myung speak...or tackle James?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Wildoer on April 22, 2011, 06:43:12 PM
Yeah, did Myung speak...or tackle James?


First of all, everybody involved in the auditions were the coolest people from the band, management, crew, film team etc. Totally professional and laid back and really made it a great time auditioning! To say the least I was nervous as hell but once in the room the vibe was just awesome! I enjoyed every minute of it, even if I was shit nervous, ha ha...

Yes, Myung did speak. He's not the most talkative as you all know, but very very humble and nice. Him and I talked just briefly over the jam we had and how we locked in. JP, JR and JLB all like to talk as do I as you might have noticed.  :lol We had a fantastic time!

Cheers
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DeanTheater on April 22, 2011, 06:45:51 PM
Wow, He is awesome.  I love is work on SI, the mix of JLB and his vocals were cool indeed.  And FYI, I hope he is the new DT drummer, because he is the one I voted for in the drummer poll
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 22, 2011, 06:46:07 PM
Wow Peter it's very cool for you to post here.



I have to admit that SI isn't my favorite JLB album, though I do like it, but I wanted to let you that your drumming, in its precision and pure insanity did make me want to quit playing drums several times, very few drummers have made me just want to give up. Keep on being an insane drummer. :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Cool Chris on April 22, 2011, 07:07:39 PM
Glad you like Static Impulse! I'm really happy how that album came out. I know some of you hate my screaming and I'm sorry for that, but it was not me that entered the studio and said "Hey guys, I will do some screaming on some songs even though it's JLB's album and that's it".  :lol  Both James and Matt wanted this approach and when they found out that I did lead vocals (screams) on Christofer MalmstrŲm's (Darkane) solo album "Non-Human Level" and also some vocals on the Darkane albums they wanted me to do the growls.

Welcome to the forums! I must say I am a pretty vocal critic of growls/screams/whatever, and still dislike them as lead vocals. And I was disheartened when word got out that there were some on SI. But I gotta say, 'Jekyll or Hyde' and 'Mislead' are my top 2 songs on the album. So go figure. Your backing on those songs are awesome, as is your drumming on the whole album. Glad the audition experience went well and looking forward to seeing the full documentary.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nick on April 22, 2011, 07:15:04 PM
I'm not much for screams, but I found them good on songs like Jekyll or Hyde, and when they were used behind LaBrie's vocals lower in the mix. That said I'm not going to judge Peter by that because it wasn't his main function nor his decision to do the screams. He did kick ass on the drums on that album, providing one of the best drumming performances of the year, and that's what counts.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 22, 2011, 07:17:47 PM
Hey Peter, lots of people have been speculating about whether Dream Theater have been writing their new album with a drummer, or using drum machines for a drummer to come in later an fill things out. I'm curious, do you think whoever they picked has been long enough with them to actually join in on the writing process, or do you think the new drummer (like lots of new members of bands) has been kept at a distance somewhat from the creative process? Was there any indication of what the new member's creative role in the band would be before the auditions?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Chino on April 22, 2011, 07:19:04 PM
Who is this Peter fellow?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nick on April 22, 2011, 07:19:19 PM
I can say with a good amount of certainty that this particular album was written without creative input of the drummer, but hey, that's just what I've heard through my channels and could possibly be off base. Not saying that would be the case for the future though.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: reneranucci on April 22, 2011, 07:26:55 PM
Yes, Myung did speak.
I believed everything you said up to this point  :P

Anyway, thanks for posting. Hope everything goes well with your projects. :P
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Loser1 on April 22, 2011, 07:51:33 PM
Ugh... What has happened to my favorite band? Cheesy reality show tactics? Horrible trailers? What happened to the DT that used to be about music and only the music?

I guess I'd be ok with all of this if they just changed their name and laid "Dream Theater" to rest. It seems that DT is more about theater and less about music. It is a sad state of affairs, an all time low, and I for one am close to writing all of this bullshit off.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 07:52:45 PM
Ugh... What has happened to my favorite band? Cheesy reality show tactics? Horrible trailers? What happened to the DT that used to be about music and only the music?

I guess I'd be ok with all of this if they just changed their name and laid "Dream Theater" to rest. It seems that DT is more about theater and less about music. It is a sad state of affairs, an all time low, and I for one am close to writing all of this bullshit off.

You are entitled to your opinion, but you are clearly in the minority.  And given that you've previously said you don't like it, I'm not sure what you added by repeating the same thing.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Loser1 on April 22, 2011, 07:57:26 PM
I see your point. I guess I just had the urge to expand on when I said it was lame in a previous post. As always, I've been torn on the whole "DT without MP" situation. I guess at the moment I'm seeing it in a negative light.

I posted it probably just to get it off of my chest as opposed to simply being a jerk (although it probably looks like the latter!). Not trying to sh!t on DT. Just curious of anyone else has similar thoughts.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: IdoSC on April 22, 2011, 07:57:42 PM
Hey Mr. Wildoer, thanks for joining this community as a member, welcome, and I hope you'll enjoy it around here.

I really, really loved your work in SI. The drumming was phenomenal, and your vocal work was so great. I bet I owe it for both your talent and James' and Matt's amazing writing skills, that I've never enjoyed a duet of harsh vocals and clean vocals this much, nor did I ever replay an album this many times in just a few months.

I hope you're the one who was chosen for the gag. Reading your posts, you already look like any other DT member when it comes to talking to fans (which is great, by all means).
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 22, 2011, 07:59:38 PM
I see your point. I guess I just had the urge to expand on when I said it was lame in a previous post. As always, I've been torn on the whole "DT without MP" situation. I guess at the moment I'm seeing it in a negative light.

I posted it probably just to get it off of my chest as opposed to simply being a jerk (although it probably looks like the latter!). Not trying to sh!t on DT. Just curious of anyone else has similar thoughts.


That's fine.  I'm sure the band understands that surely this approach will not please everybody.  But it seems most people are genuinely excited about this.  Sorry you don't like it.  Maybe the album will rekindle your interests if, as I'm sure it will be, the tunes are solid.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Loser1 on April 22, 2011, 08:01:20 PM
I see your point. I guess I just had the urge to expand on when I said it was lame in a previous post. As always, I've been torn on the whole "DT without MP" situation. I guess at the moment I'm seeing it in a negative light.

I posted it probably just to get it off of my chest as opposed to simply being a jerk (although it probably looks like the latter!). Not trying to sh!t on DT. Just curious of anyone else has similar thoughts.


That's fine.  I'm sure the band understands that surely this approach will not please everybody.  But it seems most people are genuinely excited about this.  Sorry you don't like it.  Maybe the album will rekindle your interests if, as I'm sure it will be, the tunes are solid.

Absolutely. If the tunes are solid and "DT" I won't be able to hate on it. It's all about the music to me. If I have to eat my words, I'll do it right here on this forum, I promise :-)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 22, 2011, 08:23:19 PM
this is so cool. thank you mr. wildoer for posting
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: antigoon on April 22, 2011, 09:02:19 PM
Really nice of you to come chat with us here, Peter. Thanks!

I gotta say, my interest in anything DT had really deflated before this trailer. I'm VERY looking forward to this documentary. Looks really great.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jirpo on April 22, 2011, 09:05:22 PM
Thanks for posting Peter, it really is cool to come on and read what you have to say :)


I hope the documentary airs on Aussie TV too :( I hope it will be made available for sale. I'm sure it will.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on April 22, 2011, 09:53:04 PM
Peter, thank you so much for taking the time and connecting with us fans. It really means a lot, and it's exciting to hear some details on how the auditions went!  :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JediKnight1969 on April 22, 2011, 10:08:35 PM
Peter:

First, I'm honoured to have the opportunity to talk to one of the best drummers in the world. My question is: many people said here that all of you seven used the same drum kit to audition, but there are some differences in the different sequences of the video. Were you been able to customize that kit for your own best?

Thank you very much for your time.

All the best.

Andres.
Buenos Aires
Argentina
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: emindead on April 22, 2011, 11:50:53 PM
Thank YOU for posting here and sharing your experiences and perspective on all this.  We as fans are obviously eating it up.  Since the "official" band forums shut down a few years ago and I set up this place, we've sort of felt like the bastard step-children, so we love it when band members and those close to them drop in and share information. 

...Well, except for David Prater.  We pretty much did the Internet equivalent of tarring and feathering him and running him out of here on a rail.  But that's another story.  :lol

You know, I missed that (I think I was on a long study ban or my internet was down or something). What happened?

He is user Havona in this thread:  https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=207.msg50566#msg50566 
By far, the best thread here at DTF. I loved every moment of that thread.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: antigoon on April 22, 2011, 11:54:29 PM
That was glorious.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: KevShmev on April 22, 2011, 11:56:39 PM
Thanks for sharing your experiences, Peter.  You seem like a class act! :tup :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: emindead on April 22, 2011, 11:58:05 PM
Hey, Peter! Thanks for posting here.

Talking about growls... can you please sing the following?

DAY AFTER DAY AND NIGHT AFTER NIGHT
REPLAYING THE EVENTS
DID THEY EVER SEE THE RED LIGHT?
OVER AND OVER
SCENE BY SCENE
LIKE A RECURRING NIGHTMARE
HUNTING MY DREAMS

How can you prepare
For what happened next?
No son should ever have to see his father such a mess
It's a miracle he lived
It's a blessing no one died
By the grace of God above
Everyone survived! ROOOAARRRRR!


Thanks!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 22, 2011, 11:58:29 PM
LOL, Peter so much thanks for communicate with the fans, it's very important. You are the one and only who decides to do that and that means a lot for me, and I think for us ;) Great posting, and whats more and mostly important perfect and genius drumming!! I must admit that I've been watching many times your recording sessions for Static Impulse, great videos, cool comments during the videos ;) You or Aquiles should take the place in DT, you two are most creative drummers from them IMO, and your playing style and technique (and Aquiles ;) )fits me in 100%. Greets, than you, and I'm looking forward to posting with Mr. Wildoer  :metal Cheers ;)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ħ on April 23, 2011, 01:23:10 AM
Peter thanks for being so open!  Let me ask you a question.....who's the new drummer?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 23, 2011, 02:18:30 AM
Peter thanks for being so open!  Let me ask you a question.....who's the new drummer?
;D  :corn
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Zydar on April 23, 2011, 02:28:21 AM
Welcome Peter, nice to have you onboard! (Another fellow Swede here ;D)

Great to hear your insight on the audition process, I was curious about that.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Raoul Sanchez on April 23, 2011, 03:37:18 AM
Ugh... What has happened to my favorite band? Cheesy reality show tactics? Horrible trailers? What happened to the DT that used to be about music and only the music?

I guess I'd be ok with all of this if they just changed their name and laid "Dream Theater" to rest. It seems that DT is more about theater and less about music. It is a sad state of affairs, an all time low, and I for one am close to writing all of this bullshit off.

They have always been big fans of spectacle. This documentary still looks infinitely less cheesy then the Metropolis 2000 DVD for example.

With this they get to generate a fair of amount of hype/publicity while giving us a peak at auditions. Are you saying you don't like the idea of people like seeing people like Marco Minneman or Thomas Lang jamming with Dream Theater? It may be a tad OTT, but I definitely rather have a good show out of it rather then them just say "the drummer is XXX" and move on.

Plus this way we get to see how whoever they chose melds with the band instead of guessing how they'll play based on on past projects so it should kill a fair amount of whining (though this is probably very wishful thinking on my pat  :P).
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 23, 2011, 03:38:47 AM
Thank YOU for posting here and sharing your experiences and perspective on all this.  We as fans are obviously eating it up.  Since the "official" band forums shut down a few years ago and I set up this place, we've sort of felt like the bastard step-children, so we love it when band members and those close to them drop in and share information.  

...Well, except for David Prater.  We pretty much did the Internet equivalent of tarring and feathering him and running him out of here on a rail.  But that's another story.  :lol
lol I remember that.  What a goat scrotum he was.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: thyer on April 23, 2011, 03:49:02 AM
Minnemann or Donati are the best choices for DT, different style from MP and excellent technique and also are authors and songwriters (and they are tops of MP); Mangini for me is a great performer and probably the 4 have chose him only to play the songs that they wrote... I have not found anything where it says that Mangini has written songs.
However, if everyone thinks and hope that in the future MP returns (he will have some difficulties to play MM or VD pieces), then Mangini is the right man because he is not stay for a long time in the band where he plays and he doesn't seems that he regret to leave or left out from the band.
 
Time will tell
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mladen on April 23, 2011, 03:53:44 AM
Thanks a lot Mladen for you way too kind words!!! :) Very glad you enjoy the SI album! I think you were the first one that voted for me in the poll and after that I remembered your avatar. Later on I think you changed your vote though, correct? If that's the case I forgive you for that... :lol

Very cool if you want to follow what I do next!!!
Yeah, I did change my vote. As you've seen, there were some clues to who might and who might not be the drummer. I remember some of us believing Charlie Zeleny was the one for a while. At a certain point it was either Mangini, Minnemann or Lang, so I decided to move my vote to Mangini, as I recall.  :) I'm pretty sure I placed my bet right - but it's yet to be seen.  ;D
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 23, 2011, 05:04:58 AM
Ugh... What has happened to my favorite band? Cheesy reality show tactics? Horrible trailers? What happened to the DT that used to be about music and only the music?

I guess I'd be ok with all of this if they just changed their name and laid "Dream Theater" to rest. It seems that DT is more about theater and less about music. It is a sad state of affairs, an all time low, and I for one am close to writing all of this bullshit off.

They have always been big fans of spectacle. This documentary still looks infinitely less cheesy then the Metropolis 2000 DVD for example.
Oh god yes, such a good point!

Thank YOU for posting here and sharing your experiences and perspective on all this.  We as fans are obviously eating it up.  Since the "official" band forums shut down a few years ago and I set up this place, we've sort of felt like the bastard step-children, so we love it when band members and those close to them drop in and share information. 

...Well, except for David Prater.  We pretty much did the Internet equivalent of tarring and feathering him and running him out of here on a rail.  But that's another story.  :lol
lol I remember that.  What a goat scrotum he was.
:lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nihil-Morari on April 23, 2011, 05:54:25 AM

Nihil-Morari

Wait a second, you drummed on Seven Deadly Pieces?
I've been wanting to check that out since I first saw that trailer you posted, which must've been around 2006.
Great music, great drumming. And how awesome that you've been lurking here and now even posting here!
Thanks for all the info!


Wildoer
Yes, it's me playing drums, tambourine with my foot and wood blocks on the "Seven Deadly Pieces". That DVD is amazing and it features a lot of other cool stuff from Lalle Larsson and is a must have. If you guys haven't checked out Lalle Larsson YOU HAVE TO!!! He's a fantastic pianist/keyboard player and composer. He's in the studio as we speak recording a new "Agents of Mercy" album together with Roine Stolt (Transatlantic). Lalle also plays with Karmakanic and his own band Lalle Larsson's Weaveworld. Check that last band, features my good friend Walle Wahlgren on drums and he's amazing too! Lalle and me also did Electrocution-250 "Electric cartoon music from hell" together with american guitar wizard Todd Duane. Check this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4cCyvkZPOs
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqTASEWuVIg

Ha ha, yeah I've been lurking in the shadows here. :) By the way, love your avatar!

You're on Electrocution 250 too? Man I love that albums, big fan of Bobby Jarzombek, and I've always seen E250 as Spastic Ink on steroids, thus you being Bobby J on steroids. And that is a big compliment.

Yeah, big Zappa fan and long time keyboard player over here, I guess that's why I'm intrigued by Lalle sounds so much.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jonny108 on April 23, 2011, 06:35:39 AM
Jordan Rudess
Had a great vacation. Next week will be an exciting week for everyone! Looking forward to all that is about to happen! :)...

 :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TAC on April 23, 2011, 07:14:53 AM
Hey, Peter! Thanks for posting here.

Talking about growls... can you please sing the following?

DAY AFTER DAY AND NIGHT AFTER NIGHT
REPLAYING THE EVENTS
DID THEY EVER SEE THE RED LIGHT?
OVER AND OVER
SCENE BY SCENE
LIKE A RECURRING NIGHTMARE
HUNTING MY DREAMS

How can you prepare
For what happened next?
No son should ever have to see his father such a mess
It's a miracle he lived
It's a blessing no one died
By the grace of God above
Everyone survived! ROOOAARRRRR!


Thanks!
Nice! :rollin
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Loser1 on April 23, 2011, 07:20:57 AM
Ugh... What has happened to my favorite band? Cheesy reality show tactics? Horrible trailers? What happened to the DT that used to be about music and only the music?

I guess I'd be ok with all of this if they just changed their name and laid "Dream Theater" to rest. It seems that DT is more about theater and less about music. It is a sad state of affairs, an all time low, and I for one am close to writing all of this bullshit off.

They have always been big fans of spectacle. This documentary still looks infinitely less cheesy then the Metropolis 2000 DVD for example.

With this they get to generate a fair of amount of hype/publicity while giving us a peak at auditions. Are you saying you don't like the idea of people like seeing people like Marco Minneman or Thomas Lang jamming with Dream Theater? It may be a tad OTT, but I definitely rather have a good show out of it rather then them just say "the drummer is XXX" and move on.

Plus this way we get to see how whoever they chose melds with the band instead of guessing how they'll play based on on past projects so it should kill a fair amount of whining (though this is probably very wishful thinking on my pat  :P).

I think it is the Apprentice style, reality TV vibe the trailer has, is what rubs me the wrong way.

I'd love for a straight up documentary about this major time of change in DT history. Metropolis 2000 was produced by a member of DT who was trying to convey a story line. A completely made up story line. Cheesy or not, is was made BY DT. I'd put my life on the line in betting DT outsourced this latest production, which in turn has a more mainstream vibe (extra cheese).

Like I said before... If the songs are solid that's all that will matter to me in the end. I'll eat my negative words. But I won't be embracing the cookie cutter, reality TV BS that the public eats up.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ZirconBlue on April 23, 2011, 07:26:27 AM
I really doubt that the actual documentary is going to be "reality TV" style.  All that stuff, I think, was added in the editing of the promo.  They auditioned all 7 guys over a 3-day period.  I don't see how that would lend itself to a reality-style elimination set-up
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Loser1 on April 23, 2011, 07:41:35 AM
Good point. I hope you are right. What I want to happen is I have to eat ALL of my words! :-)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 23, 2011, 09:26:58 AM
I really doubt that the actual documentary is going to be "reality TV" style.  All that stuff, I think, was added in the editing of the promo.  They auditioned all 7 guys over a 3-day period.  I don't see how that would lend itself to a reality-style elimination set-up
I think that nobody here even was thinking that DT will make a reality show from choosing new drummer, with eliminations and etc.... It's just, you know, it's hard to focus on the music when you have camera's and fotographer's around you, especially in the audition time...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 23, 2011, 09:28:12 AM
I really doubt that the actual documentary is going to be "reality TV" style.  All that stuff, I think, was added in the editing of the promo.  They auditioned all 7 guys over a 3-day period.  I don't see how that would lend itself to a reality-style elimination set-up

This...

I think it's going to be a documentary, not AI DT version.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 23, 2011, 09:58:24 AM
Man, just watched this video of Virgil Donati:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4aEz_nr8p8

Seeing that video, he probably listened to the practice songs on the flight to NYC and then just pulled it off :lol

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: erik16 on April 23, 2011, 10:32:46 AM
I think that as Peter W is posting here himself, one can actually see how much DTF cares for musicians and DT in general. People might bitch here at times but if someone comes here being so nice and informative, nobody would even want to drive him/her off.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nihil-Morari on April 23, 2011, 10:34:30 AM
Man, just watched this video of Virgil Donati:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4aEz_nr8p8

Seeing that video, he probably listened to the practice songs on the flight to NYC and then just pulled it off :lol

rumborak


I totally love that video. When I saw that for the first time, I swear I watched 5 times in row. Unbelievable drumming, incredible music, awesome sound. Prog doesn't get any better than that.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: SystematicThought on April 23, 2011, 11:18:44 AM
Man, just watched this video of Virgil Donati:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4aEz_nr8p8

Seeing that video, he probably listened to the practice songs on the flight to NYC and then just pulled it off :lol

rumborak

That video confirmed both that Virgil is an excellent drummer and that I still hate the color of his kit
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JPX on April 23, 2011, 11:28:00 AM
Ugh... What has happened to my favorite band? Cheesy reality show tactics? Horrible trailers? What happened to the DT that used to be about music and only the music?

I guess I'd be ok with all of this if they just changed their name and laid "Dream Theater" to rest. It seems that DT is more about theater and less about music. It is a sad state of affairs, an all time low, and I for one am close to writing all of this bullshit off.

They have always been big fans of spectacle. This documentary still looks infinitely less cheesy then the Metropolis 2000 DVD for example.

With this they get to generate a fair of amount of hype/publicity while giving us a peak at auditions. Are you saying you don't like the idea of people like seeing people like Marco Minneman or Thomas Lang jamming with Dream Theater? It may be a tad OTT, but I definitely rather have a good show out of it rather then them just say "the drummer is XXX" and move on.

Plus this way we get to see how whoever they chose melds with the band instead of guessing how they'll play based on on past projects so it should kill a fair amount of whining (though this is probably very wishful thinking on my pat  :P).

I think it is the Apprentice style, reality TV vibe the trailer has, is what rubs me the wrong way.

I'd love for a straight up documentary about this major time of change in DT history. Metropolis 2000 was produced by a member of DT who was trying to convey a story line. A completely made up story line. Cheesy or not, is was made BY DT. I'd put my life on the line in betting DT outsourced this latest production, which in turn has a more mainstream vibe (extra cheese).

Like I said before... If the songs are solid that's all that will matter to me in the end. I'll eat my negative words. But I won't be embracing the cookie cutter, reality TV BS that the public eats up.

This is a documentary about the process of auditioning and selecting one drummer. There will be no voting off or eliminations or tribal council. These are highly respected musicians, not Snooki or Adam Lambert looking for their 15 minutes of fame.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 23, 2011, 11:29:19 AM
I think that as Peter W is posting here himself, one can actually see how much DTF cares for musicians and DT in general. People might bitch here at times but if someone comes here being so nice and informative, nobody would even want to drive him/her off.

I think we're pretty good at judging people by their posts. But, we've certainly also driven away certain "celebrities" if they happened to post like total dickwads. :D

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on April 23, 2011, 12:31:35 PM
When I heard Dream Theater were going to have a huge audition, the first thing I thought was, "I hope they make it into a documentary!" I also wanted to see what kind of access they would give their fans, because you know if they were auditioning a new bassist, Portnoy would have had a camera there every second. I wanted to see if that kind of thing would continue.

Note the word continue. Dream Theater have always given fans crazy insight into their business, going over and above in the form of commentaries, documentaries and forum posts. The notion that Dream Theater are now about the "theater" and not the "dream" makes literally no sense at all. None. Nada. Zip.

Furthermore, what is so bad about making a trailer for the documentary? And even if it was the worst thing in the world, who says they made the trailer? Why couldn't Road Runner have put the trailer together? Or why couldn't the band's management have put the trailer together?

And what is with people being so impatient about the announcement of the new drummer? All I see everywhere is, "JUST ANNOUNCE IT ALREADY. STOP WITH ALL THIS REALITY TV BULLSHIT AND ANNOUNCE IT. DT ARE SELL-OUTS!"

How fucking stupid are these people? (1) Get a life and do other things with your time, and (2) You think DT are taking this long just to fuck with everyone? No! There are probably very good reasons why it has taken a long time, which will all be answered by THE DOCUMENTARY THAT YOU ARE PISSED ABOUT.

Morons.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 23, 2011, 12:33:18 PM
^Good post, if a bit poorly worded. :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on April 23, 2011, 12:41:57 PM
^Good post, if a bit poorly worded. :)

It wasn't poorly worded. But... Thanks?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 23, 2011, 12:43:01 PM
At the end you called people morons and such, but hey! We cool, homes, since I don't fall into that category...I have a life. :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on April 23, 2011, 12:44:55 PM
Sorry James. I'm not as nice as you. :(
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 23, 2011, 12:51:44 PM
Sorry James. I'm not as nice as you. :(

Hell, you're very nice to me.  :heart
 :-*













 :-*
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 23, 2011, 01:04:19 PM
How fucking stupid are these people? (1) Get a life and do other things with your time, and (2) You think DT are taking this long just to fuck with everyone? No! There are probably very good reasons why it has taken a long time, which will all be answered by THE DOCUMENTARY THAT YOU ARE PISSED ABOUT.

Morons.

Dude, what is wrong with you?

Look at it from the other side. I think it's fairly obvious that they didn't announce the drummer because they were waiting for the production of the documentary to finish so they could announce the drummer with the doc. But, the problem now is that after so much time, all drummers have been accounted for, and the announcement of Mangini as the drummer will be a total non-event. That's what people are reacting to.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 23, 2011, 01:06:37 PM
How fucking stupid are these people? (1) Get a life and do other things with your time, and (2) You think DT are taking this long just to fuck with everyone? No! There are probably very good reasons why it has taken a long time, which will all be answered by THE DOCUMENTARY THAT YOU ARE PISSED ABOUT.

Morons.

Dude, what is wrong with you?

Look at it from the other side. I think it's fairly obvious that they didn't announce the drummer because they were waiting for the production of the documentary to finish so they could announce the drummer with the doc. But, the problem now is that after so much time, all drummers have been accounted for, and the announcement of Mangini as the drummer will be a total non-event. That's what people are reacting to.

rumborak

Doesn't entirely make sense... if they already "know" it's Mike Mangini, why would they be getting antsy for an announcement?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 23, 2011, 01:08:01 PM
I think it's more of a "ach, for fuck's sake, announce it already. We know who it is anyway" sentiment. I for one am interested in the documentary, but the actual announcement ... eh.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nick on April 23, 2011, 01:11:21 PM
TOX, although you didn't insult anyone by name you should know that sort of tone directed at a good number of people is unacceptable here, c'mon.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on April 23, 2011, 01:20:38 PM
I should have clarified: I was reacting more to the hoards of people I see commenting on articles I read around the internet - including Blabbermouth, Facebook and YouTube - than here.

I also disagree about everyone knowing it's Mangini. I am still seeing a lot of people who still think other drummers have a chance.*

*Then again, these are the same people calling Dream Theater sell-outs for releasing a documentary with a trailer.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Pantherize on April 23, 2011, 01:24:59 PM
Is it just me or does Marco Minneman sound EXACTLY like Tom Green? I kept watching the clip trying to place who he sounded like and it finally hit me. I'm the backwards man the backwards man... :lol I got a job playing drums in this band. Can I borrow $50 bucks for...drumsticks and stuff?

Sorry, yes, I just did reference one of the worst movies ever made. It's a guilty pleasure.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: emindead on April 23, 2011, 01:27:23 PM
Yeah, TOX that was strange because I haven't seen anyone here (the closest being Loser1) calling DT "sell-outs". Maybe at Facebook and YouTube, yet again, what do you expect from a place like that (YouTube).
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 23, 2011, 01:31:58 PM
I think DT's getting a fairly good feedback with all of this that's happening. I mean, it was a very hard situation for them and I think they're handling it very nicely.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on April 23, 2011, 01:43:30 PM
Yeah, TOX that was strange because I haven't seen anyone here (the closest being Loser1) calling DT "sell-outs". Maybe at Facebook and YouTube, yet again, what do you expect from a place like that (YouTube).

Right. Normally I wouldn't worry too much about that kind of thing, but in this case, I saw people I know on Facebook saying those things. The majority of the fanbase probably isn't thinking like that, but enough are that it's getting a little silly.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 23, 2011, 01:45:46 PM
When I heard Dream Theater were going to have a huge audition, the first thing I thought was, "I hope they make it into a documentary!" I also wanted to see what kind of access they would give their fans, because you know if they were auditioning a new bassist, Portnoy would have had a camera there every second. I wanted to see if that kind of thing would continue.

Note the word continue. Dream Theater have always given fans crazy insight into their business, going over and above in the form of commentaries, documentaries and forum posts. The notion that Dream Theater are now about the "theater" and not the "dream" makes literally no sense at all. None. Nada. Zip.

Furthermore, what is so bad about making a trailer for the documentary? And even if it was the worst thing in the world, who says they made the trailer? Why couldn't Road Runner have put the trailer together? Or why couldn't the band's management have put the trailer together?

And what is with people being so impatient about the announcement of the new drummer? All I see everywhere is, "JUST ANNOUNCE IT ALREADY. STOP WITH ALL THIS REALITY TV BULLSHIT AND ANNOUNCE IT. DT ARE SELL-OUTS!"

How fucking stupid are these people? (1) Get a life and do other things with your time, and (2) You think DT are taking this long just to fuck with everyone? No! There are probably very good reasons why it has taken a long time, which will all be answered by THE DOCUMENTARY THAT YOU ARE PISSED ABOUT.

Morons.

Other than maybe the last paragraph...  :clap:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 23, 2011, 01:47:31 PM
A bit off-topic, but I just paused the video just before James says "welcome you to the family" and Myung is actually smiling! It seems like that was a very very special moment for the DT guys.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 23, 2011, 01:57:36 PM
I realize a lot of the  whining over the doc is happening on other forums, where maybe they're not getting a lot of the tidbits we've gathered here?  I mean, didn't Derek Roddy pretty much confirm that there were legal issues with regards to the timing of the announcement?  That jives with what many of the folks around here have speculated for months.  Also, I know way back in the drummer thread here it was mentioned that we thought MP didn't have any DT stuff, i.e... vids, recorded projects, still in play.  After watching the interview he did yesterday, he made mention...of unfinished projects and he seemed uncomfy or cautious talking about it.  Is it possible that could be part of any legal issue?  A project that was started before the split, but he wants too finish?  
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: zxlkho on April 23, 2011, 02:02:44 PM
WILDOER WAS HERE AND I MISSED IT. DAMN IT. :\
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 23, 2011, 02:03:35 PM
He's coming back.



He's the killing hand.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 23, 2011, 02:08:47 PM
CrimsonSunrise, the unfinished projects MP wanted to finish sounds like the AA suite being played live, and maybe TBoT live.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 23, 2011, 02:22:03 PM
CrimsonSunrise, the unfinished projects MP wanted to finish sounds like the AA suite being played live, and maybe TBoT live.

I agree with those two.  I was thinking though, some kind of actual production project.  Something he had invested time and money into, with the blessing of the band, that he wanted to complete to possibly get a financial return on.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Wildoer on April 23, 2011, 02:22:31 PM
WILDOER WAS HERE AND I MISSED IT. DAMN IT. :\


I'll be back soon, busy right now. Just checked in from my phone. You guys are great!!!

Cheers,
Peter
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 23, 2011, 02:33:57 PM




I'll be back soon, busy right now. Just checked in from my phone. You guys are great!!!

Cheers,
Peter



Have a good one Peter, and thanks again for the insights and being here to hang with us  :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: zxlkho on April 23, 2011, 02:55:48 PM
I added you on facebook Peter. :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Cool Chris on April 23, 2011, 03:36:04 PM
I for one am interested in the documentary, but the actual announcement ... eh.

rumborak

I totally agree. In fact, I think this documentary, if done well, will more than make up for the last 6+ months of "name the damn drummer already..." angst. And if it helps us get primed for the album release, so much the better.


CrimsonSunrise, the unfinished projects MP wanted to finish sounds like the AA suite being played live, and maybe TBoT live.

I agree with those two.  I was thinking though, some kind of actual production project.  Something he had invested time and money into, with the blessing of the band, that he wanted to complete to possibly get a financial return on.

Didn't he say he was planning on/working on a new batch of ytsejamrecords releases?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 23, 2011, 03:38:31 PM
I think so, But can't remember. That could be it also.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Fuzzboy on April 23, 2011, 03:52:31 PM
It's good to have you on board Peter!

Anyways, although Peter was my original choice, after seeing the video, I would love Marco also. I like his attitude and playing style quite a bit.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 23, 2011, 04:30:08 PM
CrimsonSunrise, the unfinished projects MP wanted to finish sounds like the AA suite being played live, and maybe TBoT live.

Unless I am completely mistaken about human psychology, those two projects will never happen. First of all, getting 4 guys who will learn the AA suite from beginning to end would be a major financial commitment for MP, and he would never be able to get the money back; where would he show it?
Second of all, Mike Portnoy playing a full hour of Dream Theater songs would be weeeiird. It would make him look as if he's clinging to the past.
TBOT has a bit of a better chance, but once again, I think MP will try to steer away from DT-related stuff for a while.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jsem on April 23, 2011, 04:45:42 PM
The full suite would be too much to play while he's not in DT... but if there's ever a reunion in 5-10 years, then I hope they'd play the full AA suite.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: emindead on April 23, 2011, 05:06:07 PM
A bit off-topic, but I just paused the video just before James says "welcome you to the family" and Myung is actually smiling! It seems like that was a very very special moment for the DT guys.
You could say it was "especially special."
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ytsejammin on April 23, 2011, 05:23:48 PM
The more I think about it , the more into this doc thing I am. I don't know of any other lineup change that's ever been handled quite like this. It seem these guys have come up with a very creative idea. I think this may be a fun thing. I only wish a version would come out that's easy to watch. I don't want to have to upgrade my internet speed for this.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 23, 2011, 06:04:42 PM
The more I think about it , the more into this doc thing I am. I don't know of any other lineup change that's ever been handled quite like this. It seem these guys have come up with a very creative idea. I think this may be a fun thing. I only wish a version would come out that's easy to watch. I don't want to have to upgrade my internet speed for this.

Another positive out of this, is that in the past MP was the driving force for fan related stuff.  Now, we're seeing the others getting involved... :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: SystematicThought on April 24, 2011, 02:45:23 PM
Pretty cool of Peter to do this!

Peter, Jekyll or Hyde has my favorite drumming on it, that pre-chorus drumming = :metal

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: emindead on April 24, 2011, 03:25:34 PM
Peter, which drum fill would you say it's your favourite in the history of rock/metal?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: webpoet73 on April 24, 2011, 10:13:50 PM
CrimsonSunrise, the unfinished projects MP wanted to finish sounds like the AA suite being played live, and maybe TBoT live.

Unless I am completely mistaken about human psychology, those two projects will never happen. First of all, getting 4 guys who will learn the AA suite from beginning to end would be a major financial commitment for MP, and he would never be able to get the money back; where would he show it?
Second of all, Mike Portnoy playing a full hour of Dream Theater songs would be weeeiird. It would make him look as if he's clinging to the past.
TBOT has a bit of a better chance, but once again, I think MP will try to steer away from DT-related stuff for a while.

rumborak

CrimsonSunrise, the unfinished projects MP wanted to finish sounds like the AA suite being played live, and maybe TBoT live.

Second of all, Mike Portnoy playing a full hour of Dream Theater songs would be weeeiird. It would make him look as if he's clinging to the past.

rumborak


webpoet73 says:I don't know if you've seen Roger Waters lately, but that's all he does.  Cling to his days in PF.  Will that be MP in 10 years?   Another RW/MP similarity?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 24, 2011, 10:25:51 PM
You know what would be cool, though? An MP tour, where MP gets a group of guys together to play stuff from Dream Theater, Liquid Tension, Transatlantic, his newer projects and his cover stuff. And, I mean, I think it theoretically could happen. I imagine Mike going out with, say, a group like Daniel Gildenlow and Derek Sherinian. Would be sweet.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jsem on April 25, 2011, 02:58:48 AM
That would be pretty sweet... but in that case I don't want only DT related tunes being played.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tick on April 25, 2011, 07:16:51 AM
Sadly, I just found out Herman Rarebell was not one of the 7 drummers who auditioned. :sad:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Bertielee on April 25, 2011, 07:29:43 AM
Sadly, I just found out Herman Rarebell was not one of the 7 drummers who auditioned. :sad:

Oh, nose! No cowbell then?
On a serious note, I thought John Macaluso would audition. A little surprised he didn't. And just imagine if Bobby Jarzombek had!

B.Lee
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jonny108 on April 25, 2011, 07:30:15 AM
Dave Weckl didn't either  :'( :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Chino on April 25, 2011, 07:37:56 AM
Who is this Peter fellow?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 08:02:01 AM
Sadly, I just found out Herman Rarebell was not one of the 7 drummers who auditioned. :sad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhuLb50DLEE

WTF :rollin

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 25, 2011, 08:22:50 AM
Jesus.
Please, somebody erase that from my mind.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Zydar on April 25, 2011, 08:24:39 AM
 :|
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 08:32:14 AM
Holy shit, that guy is terrible! And he used to be Scorpion's drummer? WTF?

https://www.hermanrarebell.com/

(check out the videos)

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Chino on April 25, 2011, 09:01:22 AM
Part 1 released,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L609JsPFmmI
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MajorMatt on April 25, 2011, 09:09:59 AM
Part 1 released,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L609JsPFmmI

:caffeine:
Title: 1st episode of Documentary up onh Roadrunner
Post by: njdtfan on April 25, 2011, 09:11:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/roadrunnerrecords

watching iut now. it is 20 minutes long.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 25, 2011, 09:11:35 AM
Where was RR on the email????

Anyway, this is cool. Glad the updates are coming so soon!
Title: Re: 1st episode of Documentary up onh Roadrunner
Post by: Chino on April 25, 2011, 09:13:12 AM
I'm 8 minutes in.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: antigoon on April 25, 2011, 09:13:30 AM
Oh wow. Cool!
Title: Re: 1st episode of Documentary up onh Roadrunner
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 25, 2011, 09:14:27 AM
It's interesting, but it's a shame that the Mike responses are all recycled footage. I guess he didn't want to talk or, less awesome, they just didn't ask.
Title: Re: 1st episode of Documentary up onh Roadrunner
Post by: champbassist on April 25, 2011, 09:15:41 AM
Documentary starting off with Wait For Sleep = pure awesomeness!!!!
Title: Re: 1st episode of Documentary up onh Roadrunner
Post by: Chino on April 25, 2011, 09:17:23 AM
It's so weird hearing DT songs played with normal video footage. This video really makes me like MM, I hope he gets it. .


FYI, JM speaks at the 11:00 mark!!
Title: Re: 1st episode of Documentary up onh Roadrunner
Post by: robwebster on April 25, 2011, 09:21:22 AM
Too much background music, but pretty nifty aside from that!

I am LOVING Mike Mangini. He's stellar on ANTR. Only at the 15 minute mark so far, though.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 25, 2011, 09:23:50 AM
Part 1 released,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L609JsPFmmI

That was incredible!!!!!!!  Man I love the background stuff and seeing the auditions!!!!  Just great stuff!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lateralus88 on April 25, 2011, 09:24:29 AM
HOLY SHIT MYUNG'S VOICE WAS AUDIBLE OH MAN OH GOD
Title: Re: 1st episode of Documentary up onh Roadrunner
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 25, 2011, 09:26:06 AM
Too much background music, but pretty nifty aside from that!

I am LOVING Mike Mangini. He's stellar on ANTR. Only at the 15 minute mark so far, though.
Holy shit yes he does.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nihil-Morari on April 25, 2011, 09:26:38 AM
Oh boi oh boi, going to watch right now!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 09:27:44 AM
GNAAAAAH!!!! THAT WAS FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!


Ok, if it is Mangini, I'm sold on the guy. Great guy, great drumming.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: SupermanJLU on April 25, 2011, 09:28:14 AM
First Episode is OUT!!!!!

Jordan Just tweeted :)
@Jcrudess The first episode of the Dream Theater doc is live here: ENJOY!! https://www.youtube.com/roadrunnerrecords
Mon, Apr 25 12:22:44 from HootSuite


EDIT: Sorry I refreshed the thread and did not see anything then I after I posted it all the other posts were there
Title: Re: 1st episode of Documentary up onh Roadrunner
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 25, 2011, 09:28:29 AM
OMG Dance of Eternity!
Title: Re: 1st episode of Documentary up onh Roadrunner
Post by: kingshmegland on April 25, 2011, 09:29:24 AM
Don't you just love seeing MM playing the songs!!!!!!  What a great idea, I'm hooked.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 09:29:25 AM
HOLY SHIT MYUNG'S VOICE WAS AUDIBLE OH MAN OH GOD
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 25, 2011, 09:30:02 AM
GNAAAAAH!!!! THAT WAS FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!


Ok, if it is Mangini, I'm sold on the guy. Great guy, great drumming.

rumborak


HA!!  Your hooked. HAAA!!!! :lol
Title: Re: 1st episode of Documentary up onh Roadrunner
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 09:30:08 AM
Thanks for posting, but we already have this posted in 2 threads.  No need for a third.
Title: Re: 1st episode of Documentary up onh Roadrunner
Post by: robwebster on April 25, 2011, 09:30:14 AM
Absolutely brilliant.

The next one looks fantastic as well. Bet the one James is floored by is Minnemann. :biggrin:
Title: Re: 1st episode of Documentary up onh Roadrunner
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 09:30:54 AM
Absolutely brilliant.

The next one looks fantastic as well. Bet the one James is floored by is Minnemann. :biggrin:

Yup, you could see the cookie monster shirt on the left.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 25, 2011, 09:31:41 AM
Nice...waiting for it to finish loading.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 25, 2011, 09:35:35 AM
GNAAAAAH!!!! THAT WAS FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!


Ok, if it is Mangini, I'm sold on the guy. Great guy, great drumming.

rumborak


I really like want to screen cap this rare moment of full-blown, rumby enthusiasm.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 09:37:10 AM
:lol Yeah, I'm surprised how glued I was to the screen myself. Props to DT.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kartmaze2 on April 25, 2011, 09:39:03 AM
I love Manginis look on 13:30...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 25, 2011, 09:39:10 AM
Can't wait to get home and see this.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 25, 2011, 09:40:52 AM
GNAAAAAH!!!! THAT WAS FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!


Ok, if it is Mangini, I'm sold on the guy. Great guy, great drumming.

rumborak


I really like want to screen cap this rare moment of full-blown, rumby enthusiasm.
(https://i52.tinypic.com/8z36kp.jpg)

Here you go.



And yeah, it is a fantastic documentary. Sound's a teeny bit iffy in places (where was Jordan's mic - in his beard?!) but frankly who gives a toss? I am psyched with a capital P. And a capital SYCHED. And a capital exclamation mark.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: John94 on April 25, 2011, 09:41:46 AM
I love Mangini. His playing and personality was spot on. I know we have only seen one, but this sold me more on on him. Plus I have said him from the start.
 
Who do you think James was talking about at the end?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 25, 2011, 09:42:11 AM
yea so i am COMPLETELY fine with the choice of mangini.


THIS is why the documentary is good
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Chino on April 25, 2011, 09:43:37 AM
Part 1 made me happy in pants.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: antigoon on April 25, 2011, 09:43:44 AM
That was just lovely!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 25, 2011, 09:44:54 AM
shat myself on the first new riff they threw at mangini AHHH
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: robwebster on April 25, 2011, 09:45:14 AM
Yeah - do we reckon that riff at the end is new material, or just a jam-riff? Think they used both, and it was a pretty nifty riff, but I doubt they'd showcase any new material in the documentary.

Would have no problem with it appearing on the album, though.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MajorMatt on April 25, 2011, 09:45:31 AM
That was freaking awesome, I'm all giddy now :P

Mangini seems a very strong contender indeed, I do hope it's him - I'm even more sold now. Although LaBrie's reaction to Marco is very promising too, can't wait for the next ep.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: KevShmev on April 25, 2011, 09:46:32 AM
That was pretty cool.  If it is Mangini, he looks to be an awesome fit.

And I guess the documentary will be five clips?  That would make sense, to give us five 20 plus minute shorts each day this week, culminating with the reveal on Friday.

Day 1:
10 minutes on Portnoy leaving and them deciding on which seven drummers to pick from
10 minutes on Mangini

Day 2:
10 minutes each on drummers 2 and 3

Day 3:
10 minutes each on drummers 4 and 5

Day 4:
10 minutes each on drummers 6 and 7

Day 5:
The decision

That would make a lot of sense. :tup :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DreamerTV on April 25, 2011, 09:46:48 AM
What a great person is also Mangini!. Besides their abilities, it seems they are all really kindly and smart.
Great first episode!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: cyberdrummer on April 25, 2011, 09:53:29 AM
This week is going to be incredible.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 09:53:48 AM
Wow.  I am incredibly impressed by Mangini's drumming and his presence/personality.  Well, one down, 6 to go.  I could be wrong, but judging from some of the stuff earlier in the video, it seems like Roddy is second up and then maybe Priester (speaking of whom, even though the clips of his drumming are pretty short, I have to say I have to give him more credit than I previously did).

So, the audition songs are:  ANTR, TDOE, and...a ballad that I did not pick up on.  Did anyone else catch it, or was that still kind of kept under wraps?

I also tried keeping track of the songs played as clips throughout, but lost track.  Seemed like a pretty good variety.

Lastly, as far as the whole "reality show" thing is concerned:  Obviously, since it is a series of auditions competing for one spot, it definitely has a reality TV vibe to it.  But as far as the traditional elimination reality tv show thing, I really only get that sporadically, mainly toward the end when they are doing the previews for the next one.  Otherwise, it is pretty standard documentary-type format, which is great.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 25, 2011, 09:54:21 AM
Over the Edge Production just posted that Episodes 2 & 3 will be released this week as well.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Bertielee on April 25, 2011, 09:54:46 AM
Man, it was effing NICE! OK, I don't mind if it's Mike Mangini at all! What a drummer and personality! Wow!
And to those who were afraid of the documentary quality, no worries then. It's awasomely great!

B.Lee
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: KevShmev on April 25, 2011, 09:56:26 AM


I also tried keeping track of the songs played as clips throughout, but lost track.  Seemed like a pretty good variety.


"Wait for Sleep"
"Learning to Live"
"You Not Me"
"Beyond This Life" (the acoustic outro at the very end)
"About to Crash (reprise)"
"The Best of Times"
"The Count of Tuscany"

Those are the ones I remember.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: FlashCE on April 25, 2011, 09:56:53 AM
Man, that was awesome.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Fnejk on April 25, 2011, 09:59:02 AM
I loved the way he played the intro snare to TDOEN with one hand while spinning the other stick  :lol :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 09:59:23 AM


I also tried keeping track of the songs played as clips throughout, but lost track.  Seemed like a pretty good variety.


"Wait for Sleep"
"Learning to Live"
"You Not Me"
"Beyond This Life" (the acoustic outro at the very end)
"About to Crash (reprise)"
"The Best of Times"
"The Count of Tuscany"

Those are the ones I remember.

Forsaken, Constant Motion, and A Rite Of Passage were in there was well.  I caught all the ones you mentioned except YNM.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Zydar on April 25, 2011, 10:02:05 AM
Fantastic! I wouldn't mind at all if Mangini is their new drummer :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on April 25, 2011, 10:02:12 AM
That was so cool.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on April 25, 2011, 10:03:30 AM
God. I was happy with Mangini before but this just doubled my enthusiasm.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 25, 2011, 10:05:05 AM
Wither was also played.

Man this is so exciting. Mangini I'd be happy with because he really really wants in and understands its about the feel and connection.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: zerogravityfat on April 25, 2011, 10:05:25 AM
yea mangini killed it, i'm pretty sure he's in.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Zydar on April 25, 2011, 10:07:20 AM
I had a big WTF moment when JR said that MP wanted the band to take a FIVE year hiatus. I thought he wanted just a year or so.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JimmyJava on April 25, 2011, 10:07:58 AM
Well, I was very skeptical about Mike Mangini from the beginning, I never got his style and I suppose after watching this, I didn't get much wiser as we really didn't get to see alot of his playing but just his personality, energi behind the kit and general vibe was fantastic. I'm happy with him :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kartmaze2 on April 25, 2011, 10:08:06 AM
What is Jordan saying on the 20:08 mark?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on April 25, 2011, 10:08:38 AM
Wow, Mangini has sooo much energy behind the kit, it's insane! His playing is spot-on. He could be the right stage presence for them too. Now we'll have to see who they were talking about in the next episode about 'the best one yet' (JLB to JP)

I also wanna remark upon how nice it is of DT to send all 7 guys a gift bag lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jirpo on April 25, 2011, 10:08:45 AM
Wow.  I am incredibly impressed by Mangini's drumming and his presence/personality.  Well, one down, 6 to go.  I could be wrong, but judging from some of the stuff earlier in the video, it seems like Roddy is second up and then maybe Priester (speaking of whom, even though the clips of his drumming are pretty short, I have to say I have to give him more credit than I previously did).

So, the audition songs are:  ANTR, TDOE, and...a ballad that I did not pick up on.  Did anyone else catch it, or was that still kind of kept under wraps?

I also tried keeping track of the songs played as clips throughout, but lost track.  Seemed like a pretty good variety.

Lastly, as far as the whole "reality show" thing is concerned:  Obviously, since it is a series of auditions competing for one spot, it definitely has a reality TV vibe to it.  But as far as the traditional elimination reality tv show thing, I really only get that sporadically, mainly toward the end when they are doing the previews for the next one.  Otherwise, it is pretty standard documentary-type format, which is great.
I agree with Bosk! This was really great and entertaining to see! Real props to the band for doing this, its really great and I just loved it. The only part when I cringed slightly was the "next episode" part.

I really hope they release one each day, and not one a week.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tri.ad on April 25, 2011, 10:08:54 AM
Damn, that was simply amazing. Loved Mike's drumming, and he's one of the most energetic musicians I've ever seen. It would make a great contrast to the rest of the other band on stage.

Also, I'm already excited for the next episode. My fears about this documentary haven't really come true so far, and I hope that the won't in the next episode either.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jirpo on April 25, 2011, 10:09:21 AM
I had a big WTF moment when JR said that MP wanted the band to take a FIVE year hiatus. I thought he wanted just a year or so.
And this too!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DP_Gumby on April 25, 2011, 10:10:15 AM
Not only did Myung speak, but he smiled too! :hefdaddy
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: icarus4321 on April 25, 2011, 10:12:03 AM
This is going to drive me nuts all day long!  My work server blocks Youtube and I can't access the video on my phone.  Now I have to wait 9 hours to see this!  BAHHHH....
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 10:13:55 AM
Icarus, it'll be worth the wait.  Trust me.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jirpo on April 25, 2011, 10:15:35 AM
I was very happy with the opening and closing songs, of course. Ending with my favourite song ending of all time (LTL). I wish they saved it up for the last episode however :p
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: reneranucci on April 25, 2011, 10:16:29 AM
Icarus, it'll be worth the wait.  Trust me.
:lol

I'm watching it without sound, I'll have to wait until I get home, too. Trying to read MM's lips it seems he says "gotta learn the Camel spit" at some point.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on April 25, 2011, 10:17:35 AM
Icarus, it'll be worth the wait.  Trust me.
:lol

I'm watching it without sound, I'll have to wait until I get home, too. Trying to read MM's lips it seems he says "gotta learn the Camel spit" at some point.

 :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 25, 2011, 10:19:26 AM
Damn, that was simply amazing. Loved Mike's drumming, and he's one of the most energetic musicians I've ever seen. It would make a great contrast to the rest of the other band on stage.

Also, I'm already excited for the next episode. My fears about this documentary haven't really come true so far, and I hope that the won't in the next episode either.
  Per the video prductioin company epsiodes 2 & 3 will be released this week.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: wasteland on April 25, 2011, 10:20:37 AM
I absolutely loved this first part of the documentary. And, TBH, i didn't get all this reality-show vibe many pepole are bitching about. Believe me, reality shows in my country are much, much more annoying than any documentary could ever get, escpecially this one.

Anyway, I'm pretty happy with Mangini's playing, but more than anything, I was hooked by his antics. Man, what a positive and genuine attitude! I would be okay with him, but right now I'm looking forward to seeing the other drummers auditioning before endorsing anyone

On a side note, i was checking the comments on FB. It is very sad to me that the vas majority of them is like:

We all hate this game you guys love playing. Just release the name and besides whatever drummer you choose who isnt Portnoy is gonna make you lose a lot of fans. Everyone makes mistakes so just forgive him and bring him back. If you don't I hope whatever project he comes up with is better than whatever drummer you choose.

I think this band is getting a little too commercial... We don't need a reality show to tell us who is going to be playing with you. They're taking our love for the band and curiosity into a means of spreading the band's popularity. Time to un-like--

Childish is the word. Quit the bullshit and tell the name. Mike can never be replaced anyway... :-(

Only people that can replace Portnoy is Buddy Rich, and he's dead...and Neil Peart, he's with Rush.... So get Portnoy back...deal with the BS and move the FUCK ON !


I mean, i do respect all these people's opinion, but I just cannot figure out why in the world this could be the prevailing attitude among the whole DT fan community (and, instead, not among the long-time or diehard fans).
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 25, 2011, 10:24:34 AM
I plan on trolling the shit out of every ridiculous facebook post I see later
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on April 25, 2011, 10:25:17 AM
I don't think it could be the prevailing attitude, but as I said in my PMS rant a few pages back, enough people are thinking like that that it's a little puzzling. It seems like 95% of fans are pumped, though.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 25, 2011, 10:28:58 AM
That was really cool. But it would have been nice to see a bit more of the audition. I think only less than a minute all in all was shown of Mangini actually playing without overdubs.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 25, 2011, 10:29:36 AM
Those people aren't real fans of DT. They're fans of MP, and want him back.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: KevShmev on April 25, 2011, 10:30:58 AM


I also tried keeping track of the songs played as clips throughout, but lost track.  Seemed like a pretty good variety.


"Wait for Sleep"
"Learning to Live"
"You Not Me"
"Beyond This Life" (the acoustic outro at the very end)
"About to Crash (reprise)"
"The Best of Times"
"The Count of Tuscany"

Those are the ones I remember.

Forsaken, Constant Motion, and A Rite Of Passage were in there was well.  I caught all the ones you mentioned except YNM.

Gotcha.  I figured I didn't remember them all.

On a side note, i was checking the comments on FB. It is very sad to me that the vas majority of them is like:

We all hate this game you guys love playing. Just release the name and besides whatever drummer you choose who isnt Portnoy is gonna make you lose a lot of fans. Everyone makes mistakes so just forgive him and bring him back. If you don't I hope whatever project he comes up with is better than whatever drummer you choose.

I think this band is getting a little too commercial... We don't need a reality show to tell us who is going to be playing with you. They're taking our love for the band and curiosity into a means of spreading the band's popularity. Time to un-like--

Childish is the word. Quit the bullshit and tell the name. Mike can never be replaced anyway... :-(

Only people that can replace Portnoy is Buddy Rich, and he's dead...and Neil Peart, he's with Rush.... So get Portnoy back...deal with the BS and move the FUCK ON !


I mean, i do respect all these people's opinion, but I just cannot figure out why in the world this could be the prevailing attitude among the whole DT fan community (and, instead, not among the long-time or diehard fans).

Like has been said, those people are the vocal minority.  

And considering how disrespectful some of those comments are, I ain't gonna respect them, just because they, like everyone else, have the right to express their opinions.

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chknptpie on April 25, 2011, 10:31:13 AM
Fantastic first episode, can not wait for the rest!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tjanuranus on April 25, 2011, 10:31:20 AM
I absolutely loved this first part of the documentary. And, TBH, i didn't get all this reality-show vibe many pepole are bitching about. Believe me, reality shows in my country are much, much more annoying than any documentary could ever get, escpecially this one.

Anyway, I'm pretty happy with Mangini's playing, but more than anything, I was hooked by his antics. Man, what a positive and genuine attitude! I would be okay with him, but right now I'm looking forward to seeing the other drummers auditioning before endorsing anyone

On a side note, i was checking the comments on FB. It is very sad to me that the vas majority of them is like:

We all hate this game you guys love playing. Just release the name and besides whatever drummer you choose who isnt Portnoy is gonna make you lose a lot of fans. Everyone makes mistakes so just forgive him and bring him back. If you don't I hope whatever project he comes up with is better than whatever drummer you choose.

I think this band is getting a little too commercial... We don't need a reality show to tell us who is going to be playing with you. They're taking our love for the band and curiosity into a means of spreading the band's popularity. Time to un-like--

Childish is the word. Quit the bullshit and tell the name. Mike can never be replaced anyway... :-(

Only people that can replace Portnoy is Buddy Rich, and he's dead...and Neil Peart, he's with Rush.... So get Portnoy back...deal with the BS and move the FUCK ON !


I mean, i do respect all these people's opinion, but I just cannot figure out why in the world this could be the prevailing attitude among the whole DT fan community (and, instead, not among the long-time or diehard fans).

I've learned to NOT respect other peoples opinions because of complete bullshit like this.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nihil-Morari on April 25, 2011, 10:31:34 AM
I hope there will be a dvd with full songs of all contestants, but I doubt it.

But, on the subject of the first episode:

I litterally (my dad laughed at me) said: 'nooo' when the episode ended. I WANT to see the rest right now.
Man what a great way to entertain the fans, and get them excited for the new drummer, new album, new tour, everything.
Plus: it's a great marketing strategy, all Vai-period-Mangini fans will check this out, and can totally get hooked to DT, if he gets the throne or not.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheMadgician on April 25, 2011, 10:32:06 AM
So that kinda just made my day. I really wasn't too excited about the prospect of Mangini before. But seeing this, I'd be perfectly fine with him. Though I kinda had to laugh at "Ooh, what'd I just do to the bed spread?"

Regardless, I am beyond excited for all of this. If they're releasing 3 episodes this week, it seems safe to assume we'll probably know by the end of next week.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jirpo on April 25, 2011, 10:32:51 AM
Those people aren't real fans of DT. They're fans of MP, and want him back.
Well said.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: inoku on April 25, 2011, 10:34:54 AM
man.. what james said in the end gets me very excited..
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: emtee on April 25, 2011, 10:35:53 AM
Paraphrasing from my post at MP's house...

I'm floored by the mutual respect for all involved and by the quality of that video. Just that one lone episode
has changed my mind about some things and I want to take back anything I've said that had a negative
tone regarding the amount of time this took, and about my support of DT moving forward. I will support them
100% both in a live setting and via album purchases.

I want to personally thank the band for allowing us this view into the DT machine and the most significant
event in the bands history.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 10:39:36 AM
I also can't stress enough how awesome it is to hear all of the DT members. It totally changes the perception of the band.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: yeshaberto on April 25, 2011, 10:41:33 AM
I feel like a kid watching mom date new guys to replace my dad....not fun!

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: YtseJamittaja on April 25, 2011, 10:42:01 AM
I loved the way he played the intro snare to TDOEN with one hand while spinning the other stick  :lol :metal

This
This week is going to be incredible.

...and this!!  :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: wasteland on April 25, 2011, 10:43:15 AM

Like has been said, those people are the vocal minority.  

And considering how disrespectful some of those comments are, I ain't gonna respect them, just because they, like everyone else, have the right to express their opinions.

You're right, i probably didn't phrase that well my thought.

I respect their right to express an opinion, a right that should never be questioned, but i definitely don't respect the way they do, and, of course, don't like WHAT they express at all.

As for the vocal minority thing, yeah, you are probably right, but I can't help to find all this negative reaction childish and unexplicable
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 25, 2011, 10:45:07 AM
Haha Mangini "I saw Myung with some sheet music so he must be learning something. If he's learning still I wonder how I'm gonna do."
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JediKnight1969 on April 25, 2011, 10:45:49 AM
Paraphrasing from my post at MP's house...

I'm floored by the mutual respect for all involved and by the quality of that video. Just that one lone episode
has changed my mind about some things and I want to take back anything I've said that had a negative
tone regarding the amount of time this took, and about my support of DT moving forward. I will support them
100% both in a live setting and via album purchases.

I want to personally thank the band for allowing us this view into the DT machine and the most significant
event in the bands history.

Amen bro.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: KevShmev on April 25, 2011, 10:48:36 AM
I also can't stress enough how awesome it is to hear all of the DT members. It totally changes the perception of the band.

Very true.  It is no longer the Mike Portnoy Show, with appearances by the other members.


Like has been said, those people are the vocal minority.  

And considering how disrespectful some of those comments are, I ain't gonna respect them, just because they, like everyone else, have the right to express their opinions.

You're right, i probably didn't phrase that well my thought.

I respect their right to express an opinion, a right that should never be questioned, but i definitely don't respect the way they do, and, of course, don't like WHAT they express at all.

As for the vocal minority thing, yeah, you are probably right, but I can't help to find all this negative reaction childish and unexplicable

Like the old saying goes...it's not what you say, it's how you say it.

And before any longtime poster goes, "WTF, you used to bad mouth aspects of the band all the time," yes, I used to not say things in the most respectful manner (especially around 2002-2004), but I think I've gotten a lot better at that over time.  
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: FretMuppet on April 25, 2011, 10:49:31 AM
Haha I wonder what they played during Mike's Day after day section is ANTR :neverusethis:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nihil-Morari on April 25, 2011, 10:51:37 AM
Haha, nice. I wonder too. Sample? Or make the drummers sing it, it'll be fun to see Virgil sing that  :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mat JB on April 25, 2011, 10:52:51 AM
That was good.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: KevShmev on April 25, 2011, 10:53:29 AM
Haha I wonder what they played during Mike's Day after day section is ANTR :neverusethis:

Actually, given how drum crazy the moments are before that section, if they play that song on the next tour, I could see them segueing into a drum solo, to replace that part.  In other words, they play the song as is until right before the "day after day" part, the new guy gets a solo (which would make sense, since Rudess and Sherinian both got solo spots on their first tours as official members), and then they come out of it into the riff immediately after the "day after day" part.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tjanuranus on April 25, 2011, 10:53:59 AM
Haha I wonder what they played during Mike's Day after day section is ANTR :neverusethis:

OMG does this mean there will be an end to the fake opeth in DT? That would be Amazing.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 25, 2011, 10:54:24 AM
Well, it's started yeah!!!!  HAHA, I've been waiting and waiting :) Great docummentary, can't wait for the next ones, producers say that they will release 2 or 3 in this week so that's a great news :)
Mangini is great, I'm surpirsed of him, great performance of ANTR, would like to hear it all...
I think we all know in a week or two everything  :tup :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: inoku on April 25, 2011, 10:57:02 AM
Haha I wonder what they played during Mike's Day after day section is ANTR :neverusethis:

maybe that's why marco wore the cookie monster t-shirt
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 10:57:24 AM
........ what is the 3rd test? JP said to Mike "you passed all three tests! The song test, the jam test, <cut>".

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 25, 2011, 10:58:03 AM
Haha I could see that.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tri.ad on April 25, 2011, 10:59:42 AM
And now I'm watching it again. Damn.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Adami on April 25, 2011, 11:00:59 AM
........ what is the 3rd test? JP said to Mike "you passed all three tests! The song test, the jam test, <cut>".

rumborak


I think the jam test was 2 and the new material test was 3?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 11:03:35 AM
........ what is the 3rd test? JP said to Mike "you passed all three tests! The song test, the jam test, <cut>".

rumborak


In the trailer, they references a jam, which I took to mean just basically a free-form jam session, and then also having the drummer play over some new riff ideas.  It sounded like they are considering those to be two separate things, so I think that's "the third part."  Either that, or the third part likely refers to more of a verbal interview, which would also make sense.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on April 25, 2011, 11:04:00 AM
........ what is the 3rd test? JP said to Mike "you passed all three tests! The song test, the jam test, <cut>".

rumborak


I think the jam test was 2 and the new material test was 3?
Yeah, that'd make a lot of sense.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 25, 2011, 11:05:44 AM
I think test 3 is the face to face interview. A way to see them more personally, and how they'd handle interviews.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: skydivingninja on April 25, 2011, 11:07:07 AM
The first episode was instrumental in making me believe that this documentary thing is actually a really cool idea.  It was great to see the process and to see the band so excited about something like this. 
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: j on April 25, 2011, 11:11:00 AM
Man this is cool.  Looking forward to the next installment!

-J
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JasonScandopolous on April 25, 2011, 11:12:16 AM
Haha I wonder what they played during Mike's Day after day section is ANTR :neverusethis:

maybe that's why marco wore the cookie monster t-shirt

.... you could actually be right about that, which would be pretty funny.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jsem on April 25, 2011, 11:13:43 AM
Haha I wonder what they played during Mike's Day after day section is ANTR :neverusethis:

maybe that's why marco wore the cookie monster t-shirt

.... you could actually be right about that, which would be pretty funny.
Would be epic if Peter Wildoer actually did the Day after day, with REAL GROWLS.  :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal


Anyway, I couldn't be more stoked about this now... this documentary is epic
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: LTE3 on April 25, 2011, 11:21:23 AM
Part 1 made me happy in pants.
:lol
I am trapped at work where I can't access the Tube, I want to go home sick just to watch this.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chknptpie on April 25, 2011, 11:22:16 AM
I thought test 1 was ANTR, test 2 was TDOE, and test 3 was the jam session?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Psy on April 25, 2011, 11:23:40 AM
You know, I really like Mangini. Not just because of his drumming, but because he seems like a pretty nice and level-headed guy. :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 11:24:24 AM
I thought test 1 was ANTR, test 2 was TDOE, and test 3 was the jam session?
No.  The three parts are:

1.  Play 3 DT songs (ANTR, TDOE, and whatever the ballad is)
2.  Free-form jam
3.  New material

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 11:25:42 AM
BTW, I can't wait to see if Peter logs in today and has anything to add now that we've seen pt. 1.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: KevShmev on April 25, 2011, 11:26:30 AM
I'd assumed the third part was the chemistry test - getting along well with the guys on a personal (not just musical) level; having similar musical goals, tastes, etc.  
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 11:27:13 AM
I thought test 1 was ANTR, test 2 was TDOE, and test 3 was the jam session?
No.  The three parts are:

1.  Play 3 DT songs (ANTR, TDOE, and whatever the ballad is)
2.  Free-form jam
3.  New material


I'm not completely sold on this, 2 and 3 seem to me to be exactly the same. They were jamming on new material.
I could imagine them laying down some rules and expectations in the post-talk (e.g. "you have to commit to X albums"), and if the drummer is fine with that, he passes that test too.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 25, 2011, 11:28:43 AM
THAT WAS FUCKING AWESOME
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 11:30:15 AM
I'd assumed the third part was the chemistry test  

I KNEW I saw some beakers and bunson burners off in the corner.  I can't wait for the DVD so we can see the footage that got left out!  "So, Mr. Mangini...you nailed The Dance Of Eternity...  Now we have a simple titration problem we'd like you to analyze.  A 25 ml solution of 0.5 M NaOH is titrated until neutralized into a 50 ml sample of HCl. What was the concentration of the HCl?  Your time starts...NOW!"  :xjd:

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 11:31:38 AM
The goggles! They do nothing!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 25, 2011, 11:32:19 AM
It's great to see the smiles on their faces and this process had to give them them a rush of musical adrenaline which I hope carried over to the writing and playing of the new album.  Sure some parts were partially written but to see them jam a bit gives me a good vibe about them wanting the new drummer to have his own input into the new material.  Man I'm stoked!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: aurorablind on April 25, 2011, 11:33:04 AM
So after this week we will know who the drummer is? Shit, we've been waiting so long, and finally the moment is allmost here! I don't know if im ready!!  :o :huh:
Im guessing episodes 2 and 3 will be 30 minutes each. That way, each drummer gets allmost 10 minutes each of video time. Derek Roddy have been given some screentime allready, so i guess his will be a bit shorter.
And, HOLY SHIT!!. I have never really been that big of a fan of Mangini, but if he gets the gig now i would be happy. He genuinely wants to be a part of this band, and he played the parts perfectly - and with insane amounts of energy and passion! Mangini totally blew me away! Nice job!  :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 11:33:09 AM
The goggles! They do nothing!!

:rollin  

Oh, man--we SO need a Carol/Mike Mangini photoshop right now!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mebert78 on April 25, 2011, 11:35:45 AM
I have never really been that big of a fan of Mangini, but if he gets the gig now i would be happy.  :tup

Mangini doesn't like the term "gig." lol.  :P
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: El Barto on April 25, 2011, 11:37:50 AM
Wait, so there's already been an installment on this thing?  I thought it was a single documentary that was coming out later.

Anybody want to fill me in on exactly where everything stands right now?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on April 25, 2011, 11:38:29 AM
Anybody want to fill me in on exactly where everything stands right now?
Mangini pwns. Not much more.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 11:40:26 AM
Wait, so there's already been an installment on this thing?  I thought it was a single documentary that was coming out later.

Anybody want to fill me in on exactly where everything stands right now?

Look at the "what we know" thread.  Scroll down to today's update in the first post.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 25, 2011, 11:40:39 AM
Wait, so there's already been an installment on this thing?  I thought it was a single documentary that was coming out later.

Anybody want to fill me in on exactly where everything stands right now?

They released a promo video of the Doc and they released the first 20 minute section today.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: xeper on April 25, 2011, 11:41:57 AM
Awesome video! Hopefully the next album will have a DVD w/ the full unedited audition of whoever joins the band.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: El Barto on April 25, 2011, 11:42:21 AM
Wait, so there's already been an installment on this thing?  I thought it was a single documentary that was coming out later.

Anybody want to fill me in on exactly where everything stands right now?

They released a promo video of the Doc and they released the first 20 minute section today.
How many sections are there, and what's the schedule?  For that matter, where are they to be found?

Look at the "what we know" thread.  Scroll down to today's update in the first post.
:tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 25, 2011, 11:42:42 AM
I love how Mangini no-sayers love him now.

I mean, what's not to love of that performance?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 11:44:22 AM
I love how Mangini no-sayers love him now.

I mean, what's not to love of that performance?

You know, I have to say, if the others are done similarly, this is also great P/R for the 6 who didn't get chosen.  I'm sure that by the end of this, all 7 are going to come across as the great drummers they are and as great guys to have in a band.  So far, the doc is very well done and is painting everybody involved in a very positive light.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 25, 2011, 11:47:53 AM
El Barto, its in 3 parts. It says in the video description.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 25, 2011, 11:49:19 AM
Wow that was so cool. Mangini seemed to have a really nice time playing with the guys. I'm curious to know if JLB was talking about Marco when he said "He was the most incredible. By far."

Only two more episodes left :caffeine:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 25, 2011, 11:53:37 AM
I love how Mangini no-sayers love him now.

I mean, what's not to love of that performance?

You know, I have to say, if the others are done similarly, this is also great P/R for the 6 who didn't get chosen.  I'm sure that by the end of this, all 7 are going to come across as the great drummers they are and as great guys to have in a band.  So far, the doc is very well done and is painting everybody involved in a very positive light.

Definitely. They indeed played with some of the best drummers in the whole industry. This documentary is gonna be amazing.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 11:56:23 AM
Wow that was so cool. Mangini seemed to have a really nice time playing with the guys. I'm curious to know if JLB was talking about Marco when he said "He was the most incredible. By far."

Only two more episodes left :caffeine:

No, I think he says "That was the most incredible.  By far."  Not "he."  James could have been referring to anything with that comment--the audition as a whole, one particular part of it, etc.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Writer on April 25, 2011, 11:56:37 AM
OMFG, in the end of video James is talking about Marco!  Poland keeps fingers crossed for Minnemann, go, go go!

And BTW, Mangini was not so amazing  :|

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 25, 2011, 11:57:40 AM
And BTW, Mangini was not so amazing  :|

Poland is also praying for you, so you can reconsider your opinion.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: theanalogkid7 on April 25, 2011, 11:58:29 AM
I really was digging Mangini's vibe as a person.  He was as entertaining to watch as he was to listen to, and he seemed real genuine.  +1 for him
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on April 25, 2011, 11:59:11 AM
Mangini came off as TOO showy. Nothing wrong with being showy, but he looked like he was trying too hard
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: John94 on April 25, 2011, 12:00:57 PM
Just posting what I said in another topic. Might shed some light

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This time next week we may know who the drummer is. I asked RR via twitter what the schedule is...

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rrusa
There are three total and we should get through all of them this week.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: theanalogkid7 on April 25, 2011, 12:02:04 PM
Mangini came off as TOO showy. Nothing wrong with being showy, but he looked like he was trying too hard

True, he was rather showy.  However I feel that in this situation you've gotta put it all out there.  He's gotta make himself memorable not only for drumming, but for being a good showman.  Just my opinion, though.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: inoku on April 25, 2011, 12:02:29 PM
Just posting what I said in another topic. Might shed some light

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This time next week we may know who the drummer is. I asked RR via twitter what the schedule is...

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rrusa
There are three total and we should get through all of them this week.

:caffeine: :caffeine: :caffeine: :caffeine:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tjanuranus on April 25, 2011, 12:02:48 PM
OMFG, in the end of video James is talking about Marco!  Poland keeps fingers crossed for Minnemann, go, go go!

And BTW, Mangini was not so amazing  :|



only a dream theater fan would complain about Mike Mangini's abilities. Seriously.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 12:03:59 PM
Poland keeps fingers crossed for Minnemann, go, go go!

Any specific reason for Poland crossing fingers? :lol
I mean, he's from Germany originally.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 25, 2011, 12:04:48 PM
Wow that was so cool. Mangini seemed to have a really nice time playing with the guys. I'm curious to know if JLB was talking about Marco when he said "He was the most incredible. By far."

Only two more episodes left :caffeine:

No, I think he says "That was the most incredible.  By far."  Not "he."  James could have been referring to anything with that comment--the audition as a whole, one particular part of it, etc.
You're right.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: theanalogkid7 on April 25, 2011, 12:04:56 PM
OMFG, in the end of video James is talking about Marco!  Poland keeps fingers crossed for Minnemann, go, go go!

And BTW, Mangini was not so amazing  :|



only a dream theater fan would complain about Mike Mangini's abilities. Seriously.
:rollin
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 25, 2011, 12:05:48 PM
I see parts 2 and 3 being released Wednesday and Friday.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 25, 2011, 12:06:53 PM
Or tomorrow and Thursday.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: antigoon on April 25, 2011, 12:07:40 PM
Mangini came off as TOO showy. Nothing wrong with being showy, but he looked like he was trying too hard

Disagree. It was exciting!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 25, 2011, 12:12:13 PM
OMFG, in the end of video James is talking about Marco!  Poland keeps fingers crossed for Minnemann, go, go go!

And BTW, Mangini was not so amazing  :|



Poland speaks to you - Mangini is amazing :) It was pleasure to watch and listen, and Poland also keeps fings crossed for Priester  ;D
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kingshmegland on April 25, 2011, 12:12:27 PM
Mangini came off as TOO showy. Nothing wrong with being showy, but he looked like he was trying too hard

ThinksLikeMyung  :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mebert78 on April 25, 2011, 12:14:42 PM
To me, a big plus is just how genuinely excited Mangini seems to be a part of the DT family.  He seems to want it bad.  That's important to me, as a fan.  He's passionate about joining us in DT world.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 12:14:49 PM
...and Poland also keeps fings crossed for Priester  ;D

It's not Priester.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Writer on April 25, 2011, 12:15:33 PM
Poland is also praying for you, so you can reconsider your opinion.  :biggrin:

That's possible but on audition he played just a little stiff and without grace.  :smiley:
Ok, I'm waiting for Minnemann and Lang :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 25, 2011, 12:16:25 PM
...and Poland also keeps fings crossed for Priester  ;D

It's not Priester.

Keep silence, please.

(https://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTDEiaa8vqRFEFPhr6NU9wMfyj_FqXwGPKBCGmMcrNZMpgjyvnF6Q&t=1)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JediKnight1969 on April 25, 2011, 12:17:01 PM
Mangini came off as TOO showy. Nothing wrong with being showy, but he looked like he was trying too hard

Disagree. It was exciting!

I agree with PLM. However MM looks really excited about this.

And we're all so fucking horny! (musically speaking...)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 25, 2011, 12:17:17 PM
Got to watch the first installment and I have to say it looks really good.  Seems like it was really well done.  Definitely a lot better than what the promo video made it look like, which is really exciting.  

I thought Mangini was awesome.  I liked his personality a lot and his outlook.  The guy was so intense and so detail oriented.  I was really impressed and I love how much he was into the music.  He really looked like he thoroughly enjoyed the audition.  I would have fun watching him on stage for sure.  At this point, I don't care who the new guy is, because I think all of them will probably fit DT well enough.  It really just depends on what the guys want at this point.  I'd def be OK with Mangini!  :tup

Absolutely can't wait for the next installments.  Can't wait to see all the other drummers play!  
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 12:17:38 PM
...and Poland also keeps fings crossed for Priester  ;D

It's not Priester.

Keep silence, please.

(https://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTDEiaa8vqRFEFPhr6NU9wMfyj_FqXwGPKBCGmMcrNZMpgjyvnF6Q&t=1)

:lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 12:17:54 PM
Mangini is a madman, and always has been. What you saw in the audition wasn't some schtick he put on, that's how he always is live. I saw him way back when with Extreme, and he put up one hell of a show.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JasonScandopolous on April 25, 2011, 12:18:10 PM
I listened to Static Impulse yesterday, Wildoer is pretty good... can't wait to see how he and all the others compare, i.e., wait to get off work so I can watch this damn video!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 25, 2011, 12:18:37 PM
Mangini came off as TOO showy. Nothing wrong with being showy, but he looked like he was trying too hard

True, he was rather showy.  However I feel that in this situation you've gotta put it all out there.  He's gotta make himself memorable not only for drumming, but for being a good showman.  Just my opinion, though.
Yeah, he has to let them know 'who he is' and what he'd bring to a live performance and so on. Sure it seems a little over the top in a secluded studio...but on stage it'd come across pretty well. This video was/is amazing and really 'makes up for' (so to speak) the lack of drummer communication from DT. I guess all the tweets from JR and the gang about being patient and it'll be great were true.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 12:19:51 PM
You know, Priester is clearly a great guy, but man, his accent makes me think of a certain Zappa album.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mebert78 on April 25, 2011, 12:21:18 PM
Mangini is a madman, and always has been. What you saw in the audition wasn't some schtick he put on, that's how he always is live. I saw him way back when with Extreme, and he put up one hell of a show.

rumborak


That's cool.  I actually think that energy is good for DT because Petrucci and Myung are not overly emotional and energetic when they play.  So I think it's important for the drummer to have some energy like Mangini has shown.  I'm liking him!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 25, 2011, 12:22:38 PM
...and Poland also keeps fings crossed for Priester  ;D

It's not Priester.
I know I know... :0 but I would want it to be...he perfect, when I heard Angra's Aurora Consurgens I have question in my mind "who the is their drummer??!!" love that kind of drumming, it would be very interesting to hear him on a new DT album, but as I said... I'm pretty sure that he IS NOT the person ;)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 12:23:58 PM
...and Poland also keeps fings crossed for Priester  ;D

It's not Priester.
I know I know... :0 but I would want it to be...he perfect, when I heard Angra's Aurora Consurgens I have question in my mind "who the is their drummer??!!" love that kind of drumming, it would be very interesting to hear him on a new DT album, but as I said... I'm pretty sure that he IS NOT the person ;)

But as I said earlier, I DO have a higher opinion of him and his drumming after these videos.  I'm looking forward to hearing his audition.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 25, 2011, 12:25:55 PM
Me too :) I'm going to watch one more time now  :P
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 12:26:56 PM
The only one who totally strikes me out of place there is Donati. Very interested in seeing his audition.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 12:27:25 PM
Same here.  I know this really is a horrible reason to not want somebody in, but...  Donati looks really old in these videos.  
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 25, 2011, 12:28:21 PM
What I find interesting is that if the documentary is indeed three episodes long, almost one entire episode was devoted to Mangini.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 25, 2011, 12:29:08 PM
I have a feeling that the 3 episodes will only be part of the doc.  And the entire full length version will come out later.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 25, 2011, 12:29:36 PM
What I find interesting is that if the documentary is indeed three episodes long, almost one entire episode was devoted to Mangini.
Well, actually half of the episode I'd say. The first half was the Mike Portnoy recapitulation.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 25, 2011, 12:30:31 PM
What I find interesting is that if the documentary is indeed three episodes long, almost one entire episode was devoted to Mangini.
Well, actually half of the episode I'd say. The first half was the Mike Portnoy recapitulation.

well yah, minus the intro type deal.

that leaves 2 episodes for the other six. idk, just thought i'd throw that out there.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 25, 2011, 12:32:05 PM
There was a lack of thomas lang in that video.  It was mostly Mangini and Roddy.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: antigoon on April 25, 2011, 12:33:30 PM
What I find interesting is that if the documentary is indeed three episodes long, almost one entire episode was devoted to Mangini.
Well, actually half of the episode I'd say. The first half was the Mike Portnoy recapitulation.

well yah, minus the intro type deal.

that leaves 2 episodes for the other six. idk, just thought i'd throw that out there.
That is interesting, actually. Maybe the final episode will be longer or something? Or Maybe this was really just constructed as a showcase for Mangini.

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 12:33:39 PM
Same here.  I know this really is a horrible reason to not want somebody in, but...  Donati looks really old in these videos.  

Well, you're not the only one who thought that. I guess the disheveled look didn't exactly help :lol

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 25, 2011, 12:33:53 PM
What I find interesting is that if the documentary is indeed three episodes long, almost one entire episode was devoted to Mangini.
Well, actually half of the episode I'd say. The first half was the Mike Portnoy recapitulation.

well yah, minus the intro type deal.

that leaves 2 episodes for the other six. idk, just thought i'd throw that out there.

Also, take into account Mangini's audition was the first one. I think that itself acknowledges a bit more of time.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TL on April 25, 2011, 12:38:46 PM
What I find interesting is that if the documentary is indeed three episodes long, almost one entire episode was devoted to Mangini.
Well, actually half of the episode I'd say. The first half was the Mike Portnoy recapitulation.

well yah, minus the intro type deal.

that leaves 2 episodes for the other six. idk, just thought i'd throw that out there.

Also, take into account Mangini's audition was the first one. I think that itself acknowledges a bit more of time.
This. It's completely possible that whoever auditioned first was going to end up getting a bit more screentime, since the first audition is a good time to give the viewer an idea of the overall process.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kartmaze2 on April 25, 2011, 12:41:24 PM
I've seen the 1st episode over and over now, and I also just watched the promo again.
I really wonder who James was talking about in the promo when he said: "Absolutely fenomenal. Like, he wasn't trying to play Dream Theater. He was being Dream Theater."
It seems like it's not Mangini (which I, of reasons unknown, thought it was when I saw it the first time), but it can also be from a "summary" or something when they're about to announce the new drummer.

Also: I think we will see Roddy, Priester and Minnemann in the next episode.
Also 2: I'm agreeing on what someone said about it being a bit scarcely with Mangini-drumming footage. Would've preferred less talking and more drumming, but REALLY awesome stuff nontheless! Can't wait for the next episodes!  :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nikostheater on April 25, 2011, 12:43:07 PM
It was so awesome!
I can't wait for the next episodes..
What a great way to keep us entertained and excited!
I am so pumped up right now..
Mangini was great btw.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 25, 2011, 12:49:34 PM
Watched tiny bits at school but couldn't turn the sound on due to other people, but this is looking fantastic. And the preview for the next one looks awesome.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Pantherize on April 25, 2011, 12:51:02 PM
This whole thing is just unbelievably awesome. One thing I'm thankful for is MP setting the bar high when it came to extras and including the fans in stuff like this. I think it probably made them say, hmmm..what are we going to do that's good enough to let people know even though Mike isn't here, we're still going to be the DT our fans know and love and expect.   :tup to DT for letting us in on this process.  :metal

  With all the wait time it was hard to believe James when he said it'd be worth the wait, but he was 110% right. I cannot imagine them handling this any better than they have. I'm excited as a fan, but I'm also excited for DT. Can you imagine how incredibly awesome it must have been for them? You can just see the energy.  7 really awesome and amazing drummers REALLY want to be in the band. And as high as Mangini set the bar, I'm sure all the other guys are going to be similarly impressive.

  I think the other thing this video goes to show is how speculation just wasn't all that helpful. I mean you can Youtube guys all day long and look at their performances with other bands, and analyze the shit out of their "skills", but the bottom line is you can't tell how someone is going to fit with the band until they're sitting there with the other band members. I'd be willing to bet that most anyone ripping any of these candidates before we were able to see this is going to have a better impression after watching the audition footage. (Unless they're just still really against anyone replacing MP anyway).
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 25, 2011, 12:59:36 PM
well, it's official. at the end of the documentary, the new drummer will be revealed.

check your email. RR confirmed it.

straight from the RR email -

   
      

[DTthespiritcontinues]

Hi Everyone,

We wanted to take a minute to thank all of you who signed up and watched the trailer on Thursday. This is an incredibly exciting time for all of us and we know that the anticipation has been, well, uncomfortable to say the least!

Over the next few days we hope that you will enjoy this very special documentary we've put together which literally invites everyone into the rehearsal room during the audition process and ultimately reveals who we chose as the new drummer in Dream Theater.

This is unlike anything we've ever done before and we felt that this would be a unique way of sharing our experience with all of you as a sincere thank you to everyone who has listened to, believed in and supported DT throughout the years.

Beyond all the drama and presentation, it always comes back to the thing that unites us all: our common passion to create, perform and listen to great music! To that end we are in the studio working hard on our next album and can't wait to deliver it to the world and to see all of our friends on tour.

Until then, please go to Roadrunner's YouTube channel to begin watching the documentary now!

Much love,
Dream Theater

Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 25, 2011, 01:00:17 PM
What I find interesting is that if the documentary is indeed three episodes long, almost one entire episode was devoted to Mangini.
Well, actually half of the episode I'd say. The first half was the Mike Portnoy recapitulation.
Less than half in fact. But yeah it could be that the other episodes are longer, or that the editing for some drummers makes their slot shorter than the others. Plus, for the first one it will naturally be longer because it shows us what the process was as well as the drummer, whereas we pretty much know the process now. :P
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 25, 2011, 01:01:25 PM
well, it's official. at the end of the documentary, the new drummer will be revealed.

check your email. RR confirmed it.

straight from the RR email -

   
      

[DTthespiritcontinues]

Hi Everyone,

We wanted to take a minute to thank all of you who signed up and watched the trailer on Thursday. This is an incredibly exciting time for all of us and we know that the anticipation has been, well, uncomfortable to say the least!

Over the next few days we hope that you will enjoy this very special documentary we've put together which literally invites everyone into the rehearsal room during the audition process and ultimately reveals who we chose as the new drummer in Dream Theater.

This is unlike anything we've ever done before and we felt that this would be a unique way of sharing our experience with all of you as a sincere thank you to everyone who has listened to, believed in and supported DT throughout the years.

Beyond all the drama and presentation, it always comes back to the thing that unites us all: our common passion to create, perform and listen to great music! To that end we are in the studio working hard on our next album and can't wait to deliver it to the world and to see all of our friends on tour.

Until then, please go to Roadrunner's YouTube channel to begin watching the documentary now!

Much love,
Dream Theater


Yeah just got the same one ;) true ;)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 25, 2011, 01:01:39 PM
<3
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 25, 2011, 01:02:55 PM
Well, I'm very glad Dream Theater decided to make this documentary for all the fans. It's quite an insight, and it sure as hell makes for good watching.

Thanks guys
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 25, 2011, 01:04:05 PM
Yeah this is indeed turning out to be a cool thing.  I'm really glad the videos are coming out so quickly after the trailer.  I am really happy we don't have to wait weeks and weeks more for it to come out.  This is really exciting.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nikatapi on April 25, 2011, 01:04:10 PM
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Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 25, 2011, 01:05:11 PM
lol they put You not Me in 14:26
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 01:06:57 PM
The only thing that could make this MORE exciting would be if...oh, I dunno...maybe Peter would post more instead of just being a tease and lurking in the thread.  :eyebrows:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: emindead on April 25, 2011, 01:08:28 PM
This was so awesome. I was lending my laptop to my girlfriend so she could finish her essay, read over twitter that the episode was available, made her save her work and plugged my laptop to the HD monitors that are on our study cubicles here at our Uni. :lol We watched it, she got excited because the Hotel that appears in the film is the same where she was staying last year.

The thing that struck me the most of this episode was that you could tell that Mangini really WANTS to be a part of Dream Theater. He looks really honest in the footage. I've had my differences with him (based on nothing but a whim, I just wanted Lang or Minnemann) but after seeing this episode I can say that I would be really glad if it's him. He really wants it. When he played it looked exaggerated but I guess it's because he was INTO it.

Good luck to the other six! "DT should throw curve-balls!"

Warning - while you were typing 7 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post. :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 25, 2011, 01:09:53 PM
The only thing that could make this MORE exciting would be if...oh, I dunno...maybe Peter would post more instead of just being a tease and lurking in the thread.  :eyebrows:
Yeah, it's not like purple names are very common around here  :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: KevShmev on April 25, 2011, 01:10:05 PM
I gotta admit, after watching that 20 minute video, this is the most I have been excited about this band in years.  Probably since '02/'03.  Can't wait to hear the new album! :tup :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kartmaze2 on April 25, 2011, 01:13:00 PM
I have a question for mr. Wildoer:

Which Dream Theater songs did you play during your audition?

Regards from a Norrbagge  :biggrin:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 25, 2011, 01:14:22 PM
And can we talk about the new riff idea they threw at Mangini?  How sick did that new riff sound?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 25, 2011, 01:16:07 PM
In due time...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nick on April 25, 2011, 01:17:54 PM
The only thing that could make this MORE exciting would be if...oh, I dunno...maybe Peter would post more instead of just being a tease and lurking in the thread.  :eyebrows:

I hope the new drummer can write lyrics, because I think Never Enough is going to need a sequel! :p
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: antigoon on April 25, 2011, 01:20:37 PM
And can we talk about the new riff idea they threw at Mangini?  How sick did that new riff sound?

It was really groovin'. I liked it.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 25, 2011, 01:22:03 PM
it almost had like a glass prison type vibe, if i remember correctly.

AND CMON BIG PETE, DONT LET US DOWN <3
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: IdoSC on April 25, 2011, 01:23:53 PM
That first episode was so incredible. Words can't describe my love for this freaking band right now.

And Mangini was amazing. I've reached a point where I'd be disappointed regardless of which drummer they choose, I want all the seven drummers to join the band. They're all so awesome, personally and musically.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 25, 2011, 01:24:29 PM
Yes let's talk about new riff. More metal than BC&SL.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: theanalogkid7 on April 25, 2011, 01:25:55 PM
I have to say - I think DT has really outdone themselves with this whole documentary thing. Not every band would do this kind of thing, so we should feel super lucky.  

PLUS - Did anyone else notice that not only did JM actually talk, but he was somewhat animated while talking?! :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: IdoSC on April 25, 2011, 01:26:31 PM
I had a big WTF moment when JR said that MP wanted the band to take a FIVE year hiatus. I thought he wanted just a year or so.
Same. I was about to tell myself something like "Aaaarrghhh....swallow the rage..."
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 25, 2011, 01:26:43 PM
That first episode was so incredible. Words can't describe my love for this freaking band right now.
This.

They were right. It was worth the wait.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kartmaze2 on April 25, 2011, 01:27:41 PM
Yes let's talk about new riff. More metal than BC&SL.

I loved the JP artificial in the 5th bar  :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: JPX on April 25, 2011, 01:33:41 PM
That first episode was so incredible. Words can't describe my love for this freaking band right now.

And Mangini was amazing. I've reached a point where I'd be disappointed regardless of which drummer they choose, I want all the seven drummers to join the band. They're all so awesome, personally and musically.

This is kind of how I feel too. I imigine I'll be rooting for them all by the end.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 25, 2011, 01:35:03 PM
I swear the band don't know what the word "literally" means.

"We have literally been a family"

"Over the next few days we hope that you will enjoy this very special documentary we've put together which literally invites everyone into the rehearsal room during the audition process"

:facepalm:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: RuRoRul on April 25, 2011, 01:35:32 PM
But that riff can't be new... don't you know that the band wouldn't be playing anything heavy without Portnoy forcing them to?!?

I swear the band don't know what the word "literally" means.

"We have literally been a family"

"Over the next few days we hope that you will enjoy this very special documentary we've put together which literally invites everyone into the rehearsal room during the audition process"

:facepalm:


Doesn't technically make sense but I've heard literally billions of people use it like that.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 01:36:50 PM
I swear the band don't know what the word "literally" means.

"We have literally been a family"

"Over the next few days we hope that you will enjoy this very special documentary we've put together which literally invites everyone into the rehearsal room during the audition process"

:facepalm:

I literally have no idea what you are talking about.

...figuratively speaking, of course.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 25, 2011, 01:38:50 PM
:lol

Another one I noticed from MP speaking in 2007 - "We've been together more than half our lives, and we've shared an entire lifetime together"

wat
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Shadow2222 on April 25, 2011, 01:40:00 PM
This documentary is cool  :tup

I really want Mike Mangini.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Bone_Daddy on April 25, 2011, 01:40:14 PM
I swear the band don't know what the word "literally" means.

"We have literally been a family"

"Over the next few days we hope that you will enjoy this very special documentary we've put together which literally invites everyone into the rehearsal room during the audition process"

:facepalm:

I literally have no idea what you are talking about.

...figuratively speaking, of course.

This.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 01:43:11 PM
This documentary is cool  :tup

I really want Mike Mangini.

He is one juicy fellow, for sure.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: emindead on April 25, 2011, 01:44:39 PM
I swear the band don't know what the word "literally" means.

"We have literally been a family"

"Over the next few days we hope that you will enjoy this very special documentary we've put together which literally invites everyone into the rehearsal room during the audition process"

:facepalm:
Are you by chance a How I Met Your Mother fan? :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 25, 2011, 01:45:21 PM
I'm very much looking forward to Lang's audition now.


Also, this episode has gotten 470 members to be logged on at once today. That's quite a bit more than we've had in a long time.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Lowdz on April 25, 2011, 01:45:50 PM
Just watched and enjoyed it, and the stick throwing didn't wind me up this time!
Mangini will certainly be a good fit from the looks of things but there's alot of people here marrying the first girl they sleep with... TL,MM and VD (oh that's unfortunate...) to come.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: emtee on April 25, 2011, 01:48:36 PM
The best thing about this for me is the seeming love for each other. I know this was filmed months ago, so maybe
feelings may have changed a little bit, but it gives me hope that they can still end up being friends again some day.
Moreso than any future music, I just want them to be friends again someday. And after seeing that I really believe
they will be. It helps me put things in the proper perspective.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jdprsaga on April 25, 2011, 01:48:46 PM
I swear the band don't know what the word "literally" means.

"We have literally been a family"

"Over the next few days we hope that you will enjoy this very special documentary we've put together which literally invites everyone into the rehearsal room during the audition process"

:facepalm:

literally is literally a JP word!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ultimetalhead on April 25, 2011, 01:55:45 PM
That got me even more stoked about Mangini.  :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: changing_seasons on April 25, 2011, 01:57:02 PM
For some reason I want the new drummer to be the British guy. Don't know anything about any of the 7 drummers, but I like the idea of a British guy in Dream Theater.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 25, 2011, 01:58:55 PM
So at around 12:27 of the first episode, Jordan goes to start of ANTR with the thunderstorm sound clip, but instead ends up playing a clip that says "Does this hurt you? Does this hurt you?"

Since I'm fairly certain that sound clip isn't featured anywhere in DT discography, would it be safe to assume that it will show up somewhere in the new album?
It'd be interesting to know what context that clip fits into, if it is.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 01:59:46 PM
Uh...that clip is from A Nightmare To Remember.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Raoul Sanchez on April 25, 2011, 02:00:26 PM
For some reason I want the new drummer to be the British guy. Don't know anything about any of the 7 drummers, but I like the idea of a British guy in Dream Theater.

*Australian  :P
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ronrule on April 25, 2011, 02:04:39 PM
The new album title!

The Pocket and the Power

 ;)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 25, 2011, 02:08:05 PM
The new album title!

The Pocket and the Power

 ;)

 :lol or Literally :D
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Zydar on April 25, 2011, 02:08:52 PM
The Ruined Bed Sheet
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Raoul Sanchez on April 25, 2011, 02:09:30 PM
I really hope footage of the full auditions is made available eventually, it seems a waste to have footage of these amazing drummers jamming and only seeing short clips.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: kartmaze2 on April 25, 2011, 02:09:50 PM
The new album title!

The Pocket and the Power

 ;)

 :lol or Literally :D

Curveballs
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mebert78 on April 25, 2011, 02:12:56 PM
I really hope footage of the full auditions is made available eventually, it seems a waste to have footage of these amazing drummers jamming and only seeing short clips.

I agree.  They should sell this as a DVD and include bonus footage of the complete auditions.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aramatheis on April 25, 2011, 02:18:28 PM
Uh...that clip is from A Nightmare To Remember.

It is?

Welp. I'm going to go re-listen to ANTR and not be such an idiot.
Good day.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: erik16 on April 25, 2011, 02:30:34 PM
Can anyone confirm if the music bit at around 16:20 is new material? Because it sounded awesome? Truly melodic prog metal!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 25, 2011, 02:35:49 PM
It's These Walls.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MarkFitDT on April 25, 2011, 02:36:27 PM
Can anyone confirm if the music bit at around 16:20 is new material? Because it sounded awesome? Truly melodic prog metal!

wasnt it the end of These Walls? if I am listening in the right place!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: erik16 on April 25, 2011, 02:39:02 PM
Damn, need to listen to it then.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 02:39:45 PM
I like how at about 16:40, Joran is throwing all these time signatures at him, and you can tell he's like, "Crap, I really want to write this down, but I don't want to look stupid," and then when Jordan says "You wanna right this down?" you can visibly see the relief on his face.  :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Wildoer on April 25, 2011, 02:40:56 PM
Hey there!

I found my way out of the shadows and no more lurking.

What a great video clip!!! I almost got as nervous as I was in NYC again just by watching!   :lol  Mangini totally nailed it and I enjoyed every second of it. He's amazing and what a personality! He definitely set the bar high there.

Haha I wonder what they played during Mike's Day after day section is ANTR :neverusethis:

maybe that's why marco wore the cookie monster t-shirt

.... you could actually be right about that, which would be pretty funny.
Would be epic if Peter Wildoer actually did the Day after day, with REAL GROWLS.  :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal


Anyway, I couldn't be more stoked about this now... this documentary is epic

I actually rehearsed that part with growls as I knew the guys heard me on Static Impulse. When at the audition there were no microphone available that went to our in ears so we just skipped it. Would have been cool though. :)

Looking forward to the next episode already!!!

Cheers,
Peter
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 25, 2011, 02:41:43 PM
hi pete <3

thanks for the info, bro.

too add, i never realized you probably never had any insight as to how the other auditions went, so this documentary is probably pretty interesting to you, too.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: nikatapi on April 25, 2011, 02:44:10 PM
Man, Peter is such an awesome guy. Just imagine having him both as a math and drum teacher :metal
I can't wait to see the rest of the documentary.
Hopefully we will see more drumming and less talking.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisgazpacho on April 25, 2011, 02:49:33 PM
Awesome, awesome clip.  I have thought since MP leaving the biggest thing the band would miss is the live setting.  Mangini I think can fill those shoes.  Man the guy is crazy!  Love his energy.  I would be happy if he get's the job.

I wonder why the other auditions are in a different studio.  Maybe these 3 days of auditions were far apart scheduling wise.  Seems strange to set everything up and then move it the next day.

Anyhow, can't wait for the rest of the doc!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Loser1 on April 25, 2011, 02:51:29 PM
Just checked out installment #1. Nope I'm not here to slam it like I did the trailer (which I still think is cheesy). So yea, I guess I'm eating some of my words, at least for now. I thought the first installment was good and to the point documentary style production. I'm still bummed about the no Portnoy reality, but this segment sorta took me hook, line and sinker. I'll be watching for more.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mebert78 on April 25, 2011, 02:52:58 PM
I like how at about 16:40, Joran is throwing all these time signatures at him, and you can tell he's like, "Crap, I really want to write this down, but I don't want to look stupid," and then when Jordan says "You wanna right this down?" you can visibly see the relief on his face.  :lol

Haha.  Yup!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mladen on April 25, 2011, 02:55:13 PM
God. I was happy with Mangini before but this just doubled my enthusiasm.
This. An incredible first part, I am so incredibly excited about this documentary.  :metal

Not only did Myung speak, but he smiled too! :hefdaddy
That was incredible. Go Myung!  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 25, 2011, 02:58:51 PM
Great cliffhanger ending again
JLB to JP:
- That was the most incredible...By far!  ::)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lithium112 on April 25, 2011, 03:03:28 PM
Great cliffhanger ending again
JLB to JP:
- That was the most incredible...By far!  ::)

Yeah, I know!! Either that's some sneaky editing or does it suggest Mangini's not the guy? I'm super excited either way!!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Wildoer on April 25, 2011, 03:04:34 PM
Awesome, awesome clip.  I have thought since MP leaving the biggest thing the band would miss is the live setting.  Mangini I think can fill those shoes.  Man the guy is crazy!  Love his energy.  I would be happy if he get's the job.

I wonder why the other auditions are in a different studio.  Maybe these 3 days of auditions were far apart scheduling wise.  Seems strange to set everything up and then move it the next day.

Anyhow, can't wait for the rest of the doc!


I think it's safe to comment on this. Auditions were moved the second day to another room but at the same place, S.I.R. Studios. Don't know the reason but I think it was because the new room was bigger.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 03:06:43 PM
I just assumed they couldn't use the same room for more than a day or else the amount of awesome coming from behind the drum kit would destroy it.  They just don't build 'em to withstand so much awesome for prolonged periods of time!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: The Silent Cody on April 25, 2011, 03:09:27 PM
I just assumed they couldn't use the same room for more than a day or else the amount of awesome coming from behind the drum kit would destroy it.  They just don't build 'em to withstand so much awesome for prolonged periods of time!
Probably  ;)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Bruinsfan25 on April 25, 2011, 03:11:04 PM
Does anyone else get the vibe that Mangini genuinely wants to be in DT?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: tri.ad on April 25, 2011, 03:13:58 PM
Does anyone else get the vibe that Mangini genuinely wants to be in DT?

Well, he has stated that himself in the video. Whether it was meant genuinely or as a joke is a different question, of course. But yes, I agree with you, there was definitely a motivation to prove himself well enough to be accepted as the new drummer.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Metropolis Pt. II on April 25, 2011, 03:17:53 PM
When they ran through ANTR for the audition, did JLB sing along? If you listen to the vocals, they are not from the studio recording on BC&SL. Maybe they took his vocals from a live show and dubbed them in? What do you guys think?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 25, 2011, 03:19:37 PM
There was a mic in the room. I'm pretty sure he sang along.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MajorMatt on April 25, 2011, 03:20:09 PM
I think he sang along, his mic stand was there.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 03:20:41 PM
No, I think he sang.  A lot of the emotion of a song is conveyed by the singer, and you wouldn't really get the full feel of the song and how a drummer fit in if you didn't have your singer.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 25, 2011, 03:21:02 PM
Awesome, awesome clip.  I have thought since MP leaving the biggest thing the band would miss is the live setting.  Mangini I think can fill those shoes.  Man the guy is crazy!  Love his energy.  I would be happy if he get's the job.

I wonder why the other auditions are in a different studio.  Maybe these 3 days of auditions were far apart scheduling wise.  Seems strange to set everything up and then move it the next day.

Anyhow, can't wait for the rest of the doc!


I think it's safe to comment on this. Auditions were moved the second day to another room but at the same place, S.I.R. Studios. Don't know the reason but I think it was because the new room was bigger.

probably. from seeing the video, the original audition space was set up in a very deliberate and complex way (gear everywhere, recording stuff etc) and it shows they weren't taking the auditions lightly. So for them to make the conscious decision to move to another venue, there must have been a serious reason why - most likely lack of space (as you said), acoustics, etc.  
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: KevShmev on April 25, 2011, 03:21:18 PM
:lol

Another one I noticed from MP speaking in 2007 - "We've been together more than half our lives, and we've shared an entire lifetime together"

wat

Actually, five guys spending half of their lives together would be more like two and a half entire lifetimes. ;) :lol

But we'd still have to adjust for JLB and JR's late arrivals. :biggrin:
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Metropolis Pt. II on April 25, 2011, 03:24:51 PM
No, I think he sang.  A lot of the emotion of a song is conveyed by the singer, and you wouldn't really get the full feel of the song and how a drummer fit in if you didn't have your singer.

Well he sang quite well, then! It sounded spectacular.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Wildoer on April 25, 2011, 03:30:16 PM
JLB did sing along, it was all live.

Yeah, they had A LOT of gear and the bigger room was big enough for both gear and all the people in there (almost 20 persons in the room when I auditioned) and also included a huge catering that I could not eat of before the audition because I was so nervous, ha ha ha...   :lol  But after I ate a lot and the guys ordered pizza that according to JP was the best in NYC! Tasted great!!!  :tup
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mladen on April 25, 2011, 03:30:27 PM
Yeah, I have to add that James' performance in the audition blew my mind. Especially that ''...and I bet I never will.''  :metal
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: changing_seasons on April 25, 2011, 03:32:53 PM
Anyone think there will be a release of the entire audition process? Hopefully they recorded the sessions, being in a studio and all.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 25, 2011, 03:34:47 PM
Next episode announced: Wednesday April 27th at 11 AM EST
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 03:36:12 PM
Peter, how was James' singing on The Dance Of Eternity?

Anyone think there will be a release of the entire audition process? Hopefully they recorded the sessions, being in a studio and all.

As much as people would love that, it's not likely, IMO.  In a process like that, there are lots of moments that are very private, and lots of moments where an auditionee may say/do something dumb just because of nerves.  I'm sure they want to keep a lot of that stuff "behind the curtain," so to speak.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Wildoer on April 25, 2011, 03:39:38 PM
Peter, how was James' singing on The Dance Of Eternity?



 :rollin

I can tell you that James sounded GREAT during the audition!!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MajorMatt on April 25, 2011, 03:39:49 PM
Peter, how was James' singing on The Dance Of Eternity?

 :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 03:40:27 PM
I would agree. In fact, I would expect that not all 7 auditions went as gloriously as MM's audition. So, by choosing the footage they show they can still show every person in the best light possible.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 03:41:42 PM
The good news is I guess that all drummer showed up. I remember my band telling me that I was the first guitarist to actually show up. All the others had bailed out a day or two before :lol Playing Dream Theater is intimidating!

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 25, 2011, 03:43:36 PM
I would just like to add I was so impressed with how the band handled the topic of Mike's leaving during the interview. They did it with total class.

Never once did they insult or talk bad about him in the interview (not that I would expect them too), they just did the interview with such poise.

Props to those guys, they have handled what could have been a potential PR nightmare so well.

edits all over the place.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 25, 2011, 03:44:04 PM
I would agree. In fact, I would expect that not all 7 auditions went as gloriously as MM's audition. So, by choosing the footage they show they can still show every person in the best light possible.

rumborak

Agreed, by picking and choosing what gets shown, they can make sure everyone looks good.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ZBomber on April 25, 2011, 03:44:43 PM
The first episode was pretty cool, but I was hoping to see a little more footage of them just jamming out on new material. I guess if some of that stuff is gonna be on the new album, they don't want it getting out though (assuming the riffs they prepared were for the new album).

I'm also glad it wasn't corny like the trailer made it out to look.  :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 03:46:46 PM
I don't think this was new album material. Frankly, it sounded a bit like a constructed riff just in order to test the drummer's ability to jam on weird stuff.

rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: thyer on April 25, 2011, 03:51:45 PM
I hope in Donati...It's not Marco...from is facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Marco...nn/60833133772

hi, no I'm not DTs drummer:-). But I did work with Jordan on the "musical mind meld", and we have plans for a trio project with John P and Jordan together. And I'm sorry I ended up being unwillingly dragged into these imo silly soap opera DT episodes, haha. I really didn't want that and wasn't asked for approval. Love to all of ya:-)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 25, 2011, 03:53:14 PM
welp, i guess all of them werent cool with this
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 25, 2011, 03:53:42 PM
damn, so minnemann it out.

i guess all points towards mangini now.

edit -assuming that's his official facebook. give me a sec to verify.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: zxlkho on April 25, 2011, 03:55:24 PM
Well shit. I was hoping for Minnemann. Oh well, Mangini was my second pick.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 25, 2011, 03:56:37 PM
I still have no idea why anyone is describing it as "soap opera" or "reality TV". It's just showing things as they happened, like any documentary. I guess some people hate anything that is at all dramatic.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ronrule on April 25, 2011, 03:56:51 PM
MIGHT AS WELL MAKE IT AUTHENTIC
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 25, 2011, 03:57:14 PM
so some approved, and some didnt?

weird
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 25, 2011, 03:57:50 PM
Are we sure that is an actual quote from Marco?  Maybe that isn't his real facebook page?  He does not have that page listed on his official website.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: zxlkho on April 25, 2011, 03:57:56 PM
Well yeah, Rich. I think everyone is just still mad about this being dragged out so much. They could have just announced the drummer months ago and been done with it.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MarkFitDT on April 25, 2011, 03:59:06 PM
so some approved, and some didnt?

weird

yeah, its a bit weird isnt it? didnt want to be part of the "soap opera", wasnt asked for approval yet has already played with JR and is doing something in the future with JR and JP so he must have got on well enough with the band.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 03:59:16 PM
By "soap opera," he may simply be referring to all the collective drama about Mike's departure, the drummer search, and the holdup on disclosing who was picked.  I don't think he is necessarily referring to the documentary.

(and I wouldn't be surprised if he were also just throwing stuff out there to throw us off the trail; as I've said before, I think I know who it is.  But as far as the evidence that is out there, there is only one drummer I can say with absolute certainty is definitely "out")
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 25, 2011, 04:00:03 PM
Are we sure that is an actual quote from Marco?  Maybe that isn't his real facebook page?  He does not have that page listed on his official website.

+1.

I looked for it on his official website, but I couldn't find anything. I'll keep looking for some form of verification though, if there is one, just give me a minute
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: rumborak on April 25, 2011, 04:01:05 PM
Quote from: Marco Minnemann
and we have plans for a trio project with John P and Jordan together

Pants. Soiled.


rumborak
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 25, 2011, 04:02:34 PM
By "soap opera," he may simply be referring to all the collective drama about Mike's departure, the drummer search, and the holdup on disclosing who was picked.  I don't think he is necessarily referring to the documentary.

(and I wouldn't be surprised if he were also just throwing stuff out there to throw us off the trail; as I've said before, I think I know who it is.  But as far as the evidence that is out there, there is only one drummer I can say with absolute certainty is definitely "out")
Possibly, although the "soap opera DT episodes" seems pretty obviously about the documentary.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 25, 2011, 04:02:55 PM
I told ya...Part 2 on Wednesday and part 3 on Friday.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: jsem on April 25, 2011, 04:03:19 PM
Are we sure that is an actual quote from Marco?  Maybe that isn't his real facebook page?  He does not have that page listed on his official website.

+1.

I looked for it on his official website, but I couldn't find anything. I'll keep looking for some form of verification though, if there is one, just give me a minute
Also, didn't Peter Wildoer say that he wasn't auditioning then info came out that he WAS auditioning anyway? Could be the same thing here... I'm still hoping for Marco lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: MarkFitDT on April 25, 2011, 04:03:33 PM
By "soap opera," he may simply be referring to all the collective drama about Mike's departure, the drummer search, and the holdup on disclosing who was picked.  I don't think he is necessarily referring to the documentary.

(and I wouldn't be surprised if he were also just throwing stuff out there to throw us off the trail; as I've said before, I think I know who it is.  But as far as the evidence that is out there, there is only one drummer I can say with absolute certainty is definitely "out")

excuse my ignorance lol but who do u think is def. out and who do you think it is?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 25, 2011, 04:05:19 PM
Are we sure that is an actual quote from Marco?  Maybe that isn't his real facebook page?  He does not have that page listed on his official website.

+1.

I looked for it on his official website, but I couldn't find anything. I'll keep looking for some form of verification though, if there is one, just give me a minute
Also, didn't Peter Wildoer say that he wasn't auditioning then info came out that he WAS auditioning anyway? Could be the same thing here... I'm still hoping for Marco lol

I just emailed some people on Minnemann's official site, so hopefully they will give me an "official facebook" link. If so, we can rule out Minnemann, but not yet.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 25, 2011, 04:06:40 PM
Have to say, if it IS him then those comments are a bit of a dickish move. For that reason, I hope it's a fake account, because he seems like a nice guy.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 04:07:21 PM
By "soap opera," he may simply be referring to all the collective drama about Mike's departure, the drummer search, and the holdup on disclosing who was picked.  I don't think he is necessarily referring to the documentary.

(and I wouldn't be surprised if he were also just throwing stuff out there to throw us off the trail; as I've said before, I think I know who it is.  But as far as the evidence that is out there, there is only one drummer I can say with absolute certainty is definitely "out")
Possibly, although the "soap opera DT episodes" seems pretty obviously about the documentary.

I'm not getting that, but whatever.


Hey, I just noticed when viewing the footage of NYC...did anyone notice that the sky was clear and frigid?  The air was thick and stll?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 25, 2011, 04:10:53 PM
That Minnemann quote doesn't sound convincing at all. I don't think any drummer involved in this would refer to this stuff as "DT soap operas". It seems everyone is so excited to audition and play with the guys that it sounds almost ridiculous to say something like that.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: dvargas on April 25, 2011, 04:12:13 PM
I can't seem to open it on a mobile device. There goes a wasted iPad2!

Wont be back home until tomorrow....
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TimmyHiggy on April 25, 2011, 04:12:51 PM
Just watched pt 1. Reactions:
-OMG Myung interview!
-Mangini is such a beast! He sounded like he was well on top of those songs and knew them all inside out. Great playing. With the quality of the auditionees though, I expect they will all sound incredible. Can't wait for pt 2.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 25, 2011, 04:16:22 PM
i think the freaking out that john myung talked thing can finally go away. he talks when he wants to. we have heard his voice before, its not that weird
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ZBomber on April 25, 2011, 04:21:05 PM
Have to say, if it IS him then those comments are a bit of a dickish move. For that reason, I hope it's a fake account, because he seems like a nice guy.

Depends. If he didn't give permission as he says, then I'd say he has every right to be upset. But since it's not confirmed if that is an official account or not, it's hard to say. Although it does make me wonder if Marco/his camp was connected to the "unnamed source" in that other article, again, if that is actually his account. I know the other drummers have disputed that whole ordeal, but it is interesting nonetheless, since that would go hand in hand with what the article had to say (if memory serves me, don't have the article on hand). Could just be someone trolling though. I doubt the band would only notify some people that the footage would be used while not notifying the others, unless there was some miscommunication there. At any rate, it definitely sounds a little bit bitter.

Pretty sure the soap opera episodes IS a reference to the episodes they're putting up, but he could also be referring to the whole fiasco surrounding MP leaving/the fans overacting/being bombarded with questions etc. But who knows.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 25, 2011, 04:22:32 PM
Hey, I just noticed when viewing the footage of NYC...did anyone notice that the sky was clear and frigid?  The air was thick and stll?

You know, I'm not one to soon forget but I guess I always will remember that these were the best of times.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ariich on April 25, 2011, 04:26:05 PM
Depends. If he didn't give permission as he says, then I'd say he has every right to be upset.
Well, they legally wouldn't be able to release it if he hadn't given permission, so I think we can discount that. It's possible that it was included with lots of other stuff about the filming that he signed (he will have signed something and he will have obviously know that it was being filmed as he'd have seen the cameras) but I don't see what else he would have expected.

But aside from that, writing them off as "silly soap opera" episodes while they're still in the process of being shown would be a lame thing to do, regardless of whether he was justified or not, and I think any decent person would have at least waited before saying something that bitchy. And that is why I am sceptical that it's a real account. :P
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ricky on April 25, 2011, 04:28:30 PM
Depends. If he didn't give permission as he says, then I'd say he has every right to be upset.
Well, they legally wouldn't be able to release it if he hadn't given permission, so I think we can discount that. It's possible that it was included with lots of other stuff about the filming that he signed (he will have signed something and he will have obviously know that it was being filmed as he'd have seen the cameras) but I don't see what else he would have expected.

But aside from that, writing them off as "silly soap opera" episodes while they're still in the process of being shown would be a lame thing to do, regardless of whether he was justified or not, and I think any decent person would have at least waited before saying something that bitchy. And that is why I am sceptical that it's a real account. :P

jtlyk ariich, im still waiting for verification from his site. when or if i do find out, ill let you know. until then, I agree with you, and think we should assume that the listed facebook is unofficial.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 25, 2011, 04:30:04 PM
i hope that isnt his account. dont really like that comment
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheMadgician on April 25, 2011, 04:37:00 PM
It seems hard to believe that's actually Marco saying that. When you see him preparing for the auditions in the video, he seems to happy and excited about all that's going on. Sure, that was some time ago and a lot has happened since then, But that's a big reversal of feelings.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ronnibran on April 25, 2011, 04:37:47 PM
My initial thought about a documentary released in pieces was kind of negative.  But DT has definately pulled it off!  I'm so stinkin excited to see all of the drummers. Mike Mangini seems really cool, I know I won't be disappointed if it's him.  Watching the doc did make me a little sad about Portnoy.  He is totally my favorite drummer, it's too bad (IMO) that he wanted to bow out of DT.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ZBomber on April 25, 2011, 04:38:16 PM
Depends. If he didn't give permission as he says, then I'd say he has every right to be upset.
Well, they legally wouldn't be able to release it if he hadn't given permission, so I think we can discount that. It's possible that it was included with lots of other stuff about the filming that he signed (he will have signed something and he will have obviously know that it was being filmed as he'd have seen the cameras) but I don't see what else he would have expected.

But aside from that, writing them off as "silly soap opera" episodes while they're still in the process of being shown would be a lame thing to do, regardless of whether he was justified or not, and I think any decent person would have at least waited before saying something that bitchy. And that is why I am sceptical that it's a real account. :P

What I was thinking happened is he was assuming the footage could be used on a bonus disc on the new DVD. He probably didn't guess they'd make mini-webisodes out of it, and maybe that is what he didn't give his approval over, even though he might have already handed over any rights to the footage from the sessions.

But honestly, I don't even see why he'd have a problem with that. The trailer made it look ridiculously stupid, but I quite enjoyed the first episode. It wasn't over the top or anything, it was pretty much like any of the other documentaries on their DVDs.

But I agree, it wasn't a very professional thing to do.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 04:39:29 PM
You guys are assuming way too much about the comment.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TempusVox on April 25, 2011, 04:42:32 PM
I think the whole documentary thing is awesome! I am saddened by the fact that my wish for Bobby J to be the new drummer will not come to pass. As for technical ability, I think any of those who auditioned would have the chops to pull this off. Chemistry is the one factor we really cannot speculate on, but as far as creativity (subjective I know), I think Preister, or Roddy have the edge there.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Lotion on April 25, 2011, 04:44:00 PM
Marcos post is deleted now though
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tunnel Vision on April 25, 2011, 04:45:14 PM
I think that is Marco's real account tho...IIRC, Mike Portnoy's personal facebook account is friends with that specific Marco account.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ResultsMayVary on April 25, 2011, 04:59:49 PM
I really like Mangini's personality and the way he plays the songs in this episode. I'm really pulling for him to get the spot!  :corn
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 25, 2011, 05:02:03 PM
That was just spectacular!  Mangini has so much zest and energy... I think he would be a great fit, he really seems to want to be a part of DT!!  I also love that we are getting a glimpse of what the guys can do "Fan wise" without MP.  Can't wait too see the rest of this production!!!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Super Dude on April 25, 2011, 05:04:20 PM
At this point, I'm fine with any drummer so long as their personal chemistry with the rest of the band is good. :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lithium112 on April 25, 2011, 05:05:45 PM
I think the whole documentary thing is awesome! I am saddened by the fact that my wish for Bobby J to be the new drummer will not come to pass. As for technical ability, I think any of those who auditioned would have the chops to pull this off. Chemistry is the one factor we really cannot speculate on, but as far as creativity (subjective I know), I think Preister, or Roddy have the edge there.

That's an interesting opinion re: who would be most creative. Based on some of the main bands they previously played in (e.g. Angra and Hate Eternal) I would say they would be least likely to be creative. Power-metal and death metal seem to be more straight-forward from a drumming perspective.

But on the other hand, by playing differing genres (esp Roddy) they could bring more diversity to DT.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 25, 2011, 05:06:05 PM
Just watched it.  Fantastic.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Tick on April 25, 2011, 05:22:40 PM
To those knocking it I would say this.
This is not a good, but a brilliant marketing strategy on Dream Theaters part. Not only are they energizing the fan base tremendously, but in addition they are making the new drummer already a real entity the fans feel they know before he ever takes the stage.
Pure brilliance, indeed.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: TheMadgician on April 25, 2011, 05:23:12 PM
At about 19:00 there appears to be someone with a camera phone in the background.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: chrisbDTM on April 25, 2011, 05:23:34 PM
wildoer is doing some hardcore lurking. seen him on the active list all day. awesome
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Nic35 on April 25, 2011, 05:26:18 PM
wildoer is doing some hardcore lurking. seen him on the active list all day. awesome
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 25, 2011, 05:32:48 PM
This doc is really well done.  Can't wait to see the other drummers.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Gadough on April 25, 2011, 05:37:11 PM
wildoer is doing some hardcore lurking. seen him on the active list all day. awesome

lol

It must be incredibly fun watching people speculate about things when you're on the other side of the fence and you know all the answers. :lol Hell, if I were Peter, I'd be doing the same thing. It must be entertaining.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: wolfking on April 25, 2011, 05:47:56 PM
Just watched it, this is really fantastic.  Tick is right, this is pure brilliance on DT's part.  Awesome first episode, can't wait to see the rest.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: skydivingninja on April 25, 2011, 05:48:03 PM
Strange that this comment from Marco was deleted.  I hope it is a fake account so there's still a chance of him being the new drummer.  However, if he's doing a project with JP and JR, I might shit myself with joy.  

Any news on whether its his official page, Ricky?  Seems a bit odd that a personal account named Marco Minnemann has close to 5000 friends while the musicans page has 2000-something...
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: theusualmadness on April 25, 2011, 05:55:10 PM
That is not Marco Minnemann's personal facebook. It is just a created "band/musician" page. Whether it is the "official" band/musician page, I do not know, but I am "friended" on his account and that is not it.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: theusualmadness on April 25, 2011, 05:58:16 PM
That is not Marco Minnemann's personal facebook. It is just a created "band/musician" page. Whether it is the "official" band/musician page, I do not know, but I am "friended" on his account and that is not it.

EDIT: His personal account "likes" that page.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: lordxizor on April 25, 2011, 05:58:28 PM
I am crazy excited about this now. I'm actually listening to DT for the first time in quite a while. This was really a brilliant move to stoke up us old DT fans and hopefully win over some new ones. Can't wait for the rest.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: IdoSC on April 25, 2011, 06:07:57 PM
Wait, help me out there. Will the band announce the drummer in the 3rd episode? And will the 3rd episode be here by Friday?

Also, about James' comment in the end of the episode - even if he actually talks about a drummer being "the best so far", I don't worry about it. Obviously all these drummers can play really great, but like you all know, they said they chose the drummer both by skills and chemistry.

By the way, remember how James talked about Mangini being his drummer in some of his solo albums? Imagine how it'd be look in Peter's audition: "Oh yeah, he played drums in one of my solo albums too. These loyal folks are all my trained pirates arrrrrrr"

(Sorry, I suck at pirate language XP)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 25, 2011, 06:10:05 PM
James post posted on FB that he finished 3 tracks last week. whoops wrong thread, sorry
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Super Dude on April 25, 2011, 06:11:04 PM
James post posted on FB that he finished 3 tracks last week.

Damn, beat me to it. :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: njdtfan on April 25, 2011, 06:11:57 PM
James post posted on FB that he finished 3 tracks last week.

Damn, beat me to it. :lol
hehe, and by accident i posted it in the wrong topic LOL. :rollin
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 25, 2011, 06:13:20 PM
Wait, help me out there. Will the band announce the drummer in the 3rd episode? And will the 3rd episode be here by Friday?

Also, about James' comment in the end of the episode - even if he actually talks about a drummer being "the best so far", I don't worry about it. Obviously all these drummers can play really great, but like you all know, they said they chose the drummer both by skills and chemistry.

By the way, remember how James talked about Mangini being his drummer in some of his solo albums? Imagine how it'd be look in Peter's audition: "Oh yeah, he played drums in one of my solo albums too. These loyal folks are all my trained pirates arrrrrrr"

(Sorry, I suck at pirate language XP)

Yeah, it will be announced. This has been confirmed.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Ħ on April 25, 2011, 06:16:27 PM
Hey, I just noticed when viewing the footage of NYC...did anyone notice that the sky was clear and frigid?  The air was thick and stll?

You know, I'm not one to soon forget but I guess I always will remember that these were the best of times.

I think you took that one a little two far.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Super Dude on April 25, 2011, 06:21:42 PM
I figure it was only a matter of time. ::)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mebert78 on April 25, 2011, 06:26:45 PM
OK, I just noticed that Mangini and Jordan gave each other a cheek kiss at 19:45.  I can't see it too well from the camera angle, but i heard it.  Is it just me?  Maybe I'm mishearing.

Anyway, no cheek kisses in DT!
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Gadough on April 25, 2011, 06:30:31 PM
Why not? As homo-erotic as we are here on DTF, I don't see why they can't give each other a manly kiss on the cheek.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Mebert78 on April 25, 2011, 06:33:57 PM
Why not? As homo-erotic as we are here on DTF, I don't see why they can't give each other a manly kiss on the cheek.

(Mebert78 cover his cheeks and inches away from Gadough.)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer
Post by: unspoken on April 25, 2011, 06:35:32 PM
........ what is the 3rd test? JP said to Mike "you passed all three tests! The song test, the jam test, <cut>".

rumborak


The spitting test....
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Super Dude on April 25, 2011, 06:38:35 PM
OK, I just noticed that Mangini and Jordan gave each other a cheek kiss at 19:45.  I can't see it too well from the camera angle, but i heard it.  Is it just me?  Maybe I'm mishearing.

Anyway, no cheek kisses in DT!

(https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/forumavatars/avatar_2239.jpg)

(Taken from SeRoX, hence the "BANNED")
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 06:39:08 PM
Is it just me?  

Yes.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 25, 2011, 06:54:30 PM
Why not? As homo-erotic as we are here on DTF, I don't see why they can't give each other a manly kiss on the cheek.

I agree. That's the genre's nature.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 25, 2011, 06:55:17 PM
Wait, where is this Macro Minneman post?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Rafael Guerra on April 25, 2011, 07:01:34 PM
Finally got a chance to watch Part 1 after a long flight. Really liked the video and loved Mangini's audition. At first I thought he was being a little over the top, but I actually think it can be a good thing to have lots of energy coming from the drumkit again! I was a little concerned at that riff, it sounded a bit like a leftover of Raw Dog, but I don't know, I can't judge on 5 seconds of a riff. Anyhow, looking forward to watch the upcoming episodes.

@Peter Wildoer: Thanks a lot for adding me on FB and for taking questions in this thread!  :)
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 25, 2011, 07:04:00 PM
Oh my god, it's the reality TV editing, and it's terrible.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: bosk1 on April 25, 2011, 07:08:38 PM
After watching this a few times, I just have to say I LOVE watching his playing on TDOE.  He's not only incredibly technically sound, but SO much fun to watch on it.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Gadough on April 25, 2011, 07:20:05 PM
Oh my god, it's the reality TV editing, and it's terrible.

Says the Jersey Shore fanatic. :p
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Perpetual Change on April 25, 2011, 07:21:16 PM
I'm so glad they at least told us when the next one is going to be. I don't have to hawk the board constantly now.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: abydos on April 25, 2011, 07:24:11 PM
And he played on James'...stuff.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Aniland on April 25, 2011, 07:29:07 PM
Man, I can't believe how fast this is all happening now.
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on April 25, 2011, 07:31:36 PM
And he played on James'...stuff.

That kinda made me laugh  :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 25, 2011, 07:44:04 PM
OK, kill me, but I don't think I have seen Minnemann in this video or the trailer. :lol
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: abydos on April 25, 2011, 07:45:50 PM
By the way I know that Donati holds the drumstick like that with his left hand - any of the other guys who do it as well (Lang?)?
Title: Re: An Exclusive Look into The Bandís Search for a New Drummer
Post by: ReaPsTA on April 25, 2011, 07:47:07 PM
A couple thoughts:

 - I really hate the reality style editing.  By far the biggest thing that drags it down.  When the doc breathes for a moment and people actually talk it's great, but most of the time it cuts between establishing shots and comments about things we already get.  Blech.  The worst moment was when they started playing Nightmare.  I felt the tension in the air, and then they cut in narration so it was sufficiently noisy.   >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(  But enough complaining.

 - Something that really stuck out about Mangini's handling of the DT songs - the articulation of the individual notes was far more noticeable.  

 - From a drumming standpoint, it felt really really right.  There were a lot of elements of MP's style in there, but you felt like someone new was behind the kit.  The biggest thing is how well he fit in pretty much instantly.  Like Rudess said, he made them feel more comfortable (Metallica also said something like this about Trujillo).  He wasn't just playing the drum parts like he heard them on the DT, he was doing what a drummer's supposed to and setting the tone of the performance.  Being able to come up with that improvised thing at the end of TDOE couldn't have hurt him either.  I chucked at him counting the song off as he played it.

 - He did really well during the "come up with a beat" part.  He found all the points of tension in a really really weird riff.  Not a perfect beat, but then again listen to some of MP's rough beats on the demos and making of albums.  Everything needs time to come together fully.  Based on having no time, it's a very good job.

 - Personality-wise he fit in really really well.  He had right the right amount of deference and pure enthusiasm.  But when the time was right he turned on his swagger and it meshed right in.  It's a little thing, but the single-hand drum roll with the stick twirl at the beginnin