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The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels

Started by PlaysLikeMyung, September 08, 2010, 06:40:20 AM

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dbrooks22

Meh.  I am disappointed.  THIS is what we've been waiting for? 
Where are the keyboards/synths that people were talking about? 

The rest of the album better be much better.

TL

This song is pretty great. Based on this, Caravan, and BU2B, I'm pretty damn psyched for the new album.

Ben_Jamin

I think they'll add a new Mexico date in between Phoenix and Dallas,Houston, San Antonio, whichever of the damn Texas dates

Phoenix87x

#2418

Nel_Annette

Listened to about half the song. It's alright. Just seems like more solid Rush.

dbrooks22

#2420
Any listen might help to prove
A shadow of their youth
This song reveals the awful truth
They're now long in the tooth



No melody, just noise.  I couldn't be more disappointed.  :-\

ReaperKK

w00t coming to Tampa can't wait to see them.

TAC

The song is very cool  :tup, but the stream sounds terrible.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 10, 2024, 11:26:46 AMDISAPPOINTED.. I hoped for something more along the lines of ADTOE.

theseoafs

Quote from: dbrooks22 on April 18, 2012, 09:47:28 AM
Meh.  I am disappointed.  THIS is what we've been waiting for? 
Where are the keyboards/synths that people were talking about? 
Seems to me to be a silly reason not to like a song. :)

This song seriously rocks, man. I'm pumped for this album. The bass is INSANE.

Ultimetalhead

If the rest of the songs stand up to the level of quality set by Caravan, BU2B, and now Headlong Flight, I could see this being my favorite Rush album ever.

MasterLomaxus

Maybe the song will grow on me, but as it stands I do not like it.

ReaperKK

Headlong Flight is my least favorite of the three but it's still good.

KevShmev

Quote from: dbrooks22 on April 18, 2012, 09:47:28 AM
Meh.  I am disappointed.  THIS is what we've been waiting for? 
Where are the keyboards/synths that people were talking about? 

The rest of the album better be much better.

Maybe on some of the other songs?  Were you expecting keyboards in every new song? 

Lowdz

Someone play this for Myung. This is how a bass is meant to sound! I'm liking this more than any Rush since Counterparts. That's not saying alot, but I'm impressed. A bit heavier than I want to hear Rush and it's still got that downtuned sound I don't like, but not bad at all.

King Postwhore

Well for Rush, the first song is always a rocker that's not the best song or songs on the album.  It's their track record.  But I do like the song a lot.  Need to hear it at home on real speakers though.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

dbrooks22

Quote from: theseoafs on April 18, 2012, 11:31:47 AM
Quote from: dbrooks22 on April 18, 2012, 09:47:28 AM
Meh.  I am disappointed.  THIS is what we've been waiting for? 
Where are the keyboards/synths that people were talking about? 
Seems to me to be a silly reason not to like a song. :)

This song seriously rocks, man. I'm pumped for this album. The bass is INSANE.

It would be a silly reason indeed.  Too bad there are 4-5 bigger reasons for disappointment here.

theseoafs

Quote from: dbrooks22 on April 18, 2012, 01:24:38 PM
Quote from: theseoafs on April 18, 2012, 11:31:47 AM
Quote from: dbrooks22 on April 18, 2012, 09:47:28 AM
Meh.  I am disappointed.  THIS is what we've been waiting for? 
Where are the keyboards/synths that people were talking about? 
Seems to me to be a silly reason not to like a song. :)

It would be a silly reason indeed.  Too bad there are 4-5 bigger reasons for disappointment here.
Well, what are they? The first thing you apparently had to say about the song was that it's missing keyboards, which we both agree would be a silly reason not to like a song. You also mentioned that there is "no melody", which is just untrue (there is not only melody throughout, but a perfectly fine harmony in the bridge section). So why are you disappointed?

WindMaster

The new song is awesome. Vocals are surprisingly good. Sweet riffing, and DAT BASS.

So excited for the new album.

dbrooks22

Gosh - where do i begin?

No vocal melody
No hook
wall of guitars that show no nuance or refinement - Alex is much better than this
Forgettable verses
Loud - back in junior high, kids used to play loud and fast to cover up the fact that they had no chops.  This sounds like they are playing loud and fast to cover up the fact that they are old, or to cover up that they have forgotten how to write songs. 

And i don't buy the "leave them alone - they are 60yrs old!" argument.  Each of them has repeatedly said they are currently playing at their peak.

Look - if it sounds like i am picking on them too much, it is because i am so disappointed.  Rush is my favorite band of all time by a factor of 100X.  I have to compare this to their existing catalog, which in my opinion is the greatest canon of music of the past 50yrs.  And in that context, this "song" does not measure up.  I don't think it even registers.


Nick

I probably won't listen to this track much. Just comparing the track to the sample the sound quality on the full song is horrid. Rather not have my opinions on the track hindered by horrible sound.

WindMaster

Quote from: dbrooks22 on April 18, 2012, 01:55:09 PM

No vocal melody
Dude, there is a vocal melody. It's pretty huge, actually, and really good. Sorta hard to miss.

Quote from: dbrooks22 on April 18, 2012, 01:55:09 PM
wall of guitars that show no nuance or refinement - Alex is much better than this

There are riffs that are very clear. And a pretty nifty solo there.

theseoafs

Quote from: WindMaster on April 18, 2012, 02:05:47 PM
Quote from: dbrooks22 on April 18, 2012, 01:55:09 PM

No vocal melody
Dude, there is a vocal melody. It's pretty huge, actually, and really good. Sorta hard to miss.

Quote from: dbrooks22 on April 18, 2012, 01:55:09 PM
wall of guitars that show no nuance or refinement - Alex is much better than this

There are riffs that are very clear. And a pretty nifty solo there.
This, and also:

Quote from: dbrooks22 on April 18, 2012, 01:55:09 PM
Loud - back in junior high, kids used to play loud and fast to cover up the fact that they had no chops.  This sounds like they are playing loud and fast to cover up the fact that they are old, or to cover up that they have forgotten how to write songs. 
You could interpret it that way. The way I interpret it is that they're a rock band playing a rock single. If your logic holds, Metallica and Maiden have been trying to convince people that they're young and good at songwriting since '82.

lonestar

Good song, the bass is fucking beastly.

The Letter M



Saw this floating around (pun intended)...looks like artwork for the new album booklet. Maybe?

-Marc.

Phoenix87x

#2439
Quote from: The Letter M on April 18, 2012, 02:19:29 PM


Saw this floating around (pun intended)...looks like artwork for the new album booklet. Maybe?

-Marc.

That looks awesome. I just can not get enough of the Steam Punk aesthetic.

dbrooks22

#2440
Quote from: lonestar on April 18, 2012, 02:19:23 PM
Good song, the bass is fucking beastly.

I do agree about the bass.  Geddy is playing

I'm done bitching.  I said what i needed to say.  Hopefully the song gets better with each listen (Most Rush does, thank goodness).

Nick

Quote from: Phoenix87x on April 18, 2012, 02:23:55 PM
Quote from: The Letter M on April 18, 2012, 02:19:29 PM


Saw this floating around (pun intended)...looks like artwork for the new album booklet. Maybe?

-Marc.

That looks awesome.

Man, aside from the cover the art for this album just gets better and better.

Phoenix87x

Come to think of it, That actually would have made a pretty cool wrap around cover.

theseoafs

Yep, I'd definitely have preferred this as a cover.

glaurung

Quote from: dbrooks22 on April 18, 2012, 01:55:09 PM
No vocal melody
No hook
wall of guitars that show no nuance or refinement - Alex is much better than this
Forgettable verses
Loud - back in junior high, kids used to play loud and fast to cover up the fact that they had no chops.  This sounds like they are playing loud and fast to cover up the fact that they are old, or to cover up that they have forgotten how to write songs. 

lol

Ultimetalhead

Quote from: dbrooks22 on April 18, 2012, 01:55:09 PM
Gosh - where do i begin?

No vocal melody
No hook
wall of guitars that show no nuance or refinement - Alex is much better than this
Forgettable verses
Loud - back in junior high, kids used to play loud and fast to cover up the fact that they had no chops.  This sounds like they are playing loud and fast to cover up the fact that they are old, or to cover up that they have forgotten how to write songs. 

And i don't buy the "leave them alone - they are 60yrs old!" argument.  Each of them has repeatedly said they are currently playing at their peak.

Look - if it sounds like i am picking on them too much, it is because i am so disappointed.  Rush is my favorite band of all time by a factor of 100X.  I have to compare this to their existing catalog, which in my opinion is the greatest canon of music of the past 50yrs.  And in that context, this "song" does not measure up.  I don't think it even registers.

SystematicThought

Quote from: dbrooks22 on April 18, 2012, 01:55:09 PM
Gosh - where do i begin?

No vocal melody
No hook
wall of guitars that show no nuance or refinement - Alex is much better than this
Forgettable verses
Loud - back in junior high, kids used to play loud and fast to cover up the fact that they had no chops.  This sounds like they are playing loud and fast to cover up the fact that they are old, or to cover up that they have forgotten how to write songs. 

And i don't buy the "leave them alone - they are 60yrs old!" argument.  Each of them has repeatedly said they are currently playing at their peak.

Look - if it sounds like i am picking on them too much, it is because i am so disappointed.  Rush is my favorite band of all time by a factor of 100X.  I have to compare this to their existing catalog, which in my opinion is the greatest canon of music of the past 50yrs.  And in that context, this "song" does not measure up.  I don't think it even registers.



jjrock88

Great song and I'm enjoying it more with every listen.

The King in Crimson


KevShmev

Quote from: dbrooks22 on April 18, 2012, 01:55:09 PM
Gosh - where do i begin?

No vocal melody
No hook
wall of guitars that show no nuance or refinement - Alex is much better than this
Forgettable verses
Loud - back in junior high, kids used to play loud and fast to cover up the fact that they had no chops.  This sounds like they are playing loud and fast to cover up the fact that they are old, or to cover up that they have forgotten how to write songs. 

And i don't buy the "leave them alone - they are 60yrs old!" argument.  Each of them has repeatedly said they are currently playing at their peak.

Look - if it sounds like i am picking on them too much, it is because i am so disappointed.  Rush is my favorite band of all time by a factor of 100X.  I have to compare this to their existing catalog, which in my opinion is the greatest canon of music of the past 50yrs.  And in that context, this "song" does not measure up.  I don't think it even registers.

Okay, but no one actually believes that.  And most musicians always think they are at their peak, regardless of age.  What are they gonna say?  "Well, we can't play like we used to, but we can still play good enough, so please buy our record?" :lol 

I think this will sound a lot better once we hear it in HQ.  It sounds too muddy now, but you can tell it will sound much better when we hear the regular version.