Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)

[petrucci07]

Leeds show on Saturday, so excited

[Zantera]

Can't wait to see the setlist.
It will most likely be 50-60% Road Salt songs, but the interesting part to me is what old stuff they are planning on performing. Don't get me wrong now, but Ashes, Undertow and Chain Sling have become a bit "dull" in the sense that they are often there, and it's not that they aren't great tunes, but it removes the spots for 3 other songs.
I saw Ashes when I saw them open for Opeth, and honestly I enjoy the 12:5 version more, the "regular" version is probably one of my least favorite "popular" PoS-songs. Undertow and Chain Sling are cool, but I would much rather see King of Loss or Her Voices for example. Foreword, Nightmist, Handful of Nothing and A Trace of Blood are some others I would love.
From BE they can play pretty much what they want, the album is just a masterpiece, and while I was lucky to get Diffidentia the last time I saw them, I would take it again because it's THAT good.

[ClairvoyantCat]

Some words on the upcoming live material (might have already posted this but it seems relevant right now) from DG:

PAIN OF SALVATION mastermind Daniel Gildenlöw checked in to comment about the upcoming tour as follows:
"We have added a lot of asked-for unplayed material on the setlist, among others 'Stress', 'Healing Now' and 'Sisters'. We are also working on a totally reworked version of 'King of Loss' and we are additionally rehearsing 'The Physics of Gridlock' and 'The Deeper Cut', as well as some older material that we haven't played in a while."

All some of their best songs, if you ask me.  Particularly, I never thought "Stress" would see the light of day; brilliant song.  The Road Salt ones he mentioned  are much stronger than the other ones they've been playing, too. 

[Nihil-Morari]

Wow! Must see that!


*checks out tour dates*

[AcidLameLTE]

Sweet. Only five days away now.

[Zantera]

Sounds promising.
The Physics of Gridlock is my favorite from Road Salt Two, so I would love to see it live.

[seasonsinthesky]

"DRYAD OF THE WOODS" 
that is all.

[bout to crash]

Really? That's one of my least favorite parts of that album.

[pain of occupation]

...From BE they can play pretty much what they want, the album is just a masterpiece, and while I was lucky to get Diffidentia the last time I saw them, I would take it again because it's THAT good.

it kinda bugs me that diffidentia is THE go-to song for "BE", live.

i've never really obsessed over knowing all their setlists, but as far as i thought, they next-to-never play other tracks off "BE", do they? if so, is it that daniel just isnt comfortable without the orchestra for the other songs?

[Zantera]

Yeah when you say it, it's a bit interesting I guess.
Diffidentia is quite possibly more "easy" to change from studio to a live setting, but I don't think the others would be too impossible either. Lilium Cruentus, Dea Pecuniae or Iter Impius would be amazing live I reckon.

[Nihil-Morari]

Orrrrrr

Nihil Morari?

[wolfking]

Diffidentia is one of the weakest from BE, meaning it's still brilliant but most of the other songs are even more brilliant.  I'd be happy to see it replaced with another track form the album.

[obscure]

Yes, it can be quite upsetting to think that no one will go with him but try and remember that it's Rich and he deserves it.

[pain of occupation]

so no one knows? daniel's never explained why Diffidentia is THE "BE" song for live shows?

[ClairvoyantCat]

It seems to be the least dependent on the orchestra sections, and probably the most fitting song on BE for a live setting.  A few others would probably work, though, and they do use an orchestra track when playing Diffidentia live nowadays anyway. 

Also, I know they've played at least Dea Pecuniae and Martius/Nauticus II live before once or a few times, and possibly others as well.  Just not nearly as frequently. 

[pain of occupation]

nihil-morari is right...nihil morari would be a sick addition to any given setlist.

[ClairvoyantCat]

Yeah, I'd love to see if they could pull it off with the vocal parts from the album throughout the middle section that weren't on the DVD, that would be intense.

[Ben_Jamin]

Deus nova would be a create addition. I haven't seen them live,and doubt I will, but I know diffidentia is a what?for me. if you think about it a song like nihil morari would be a great encore

[Ben_Jamin]

Yeah, I'd love to see if they could pull it off with the vocal parts from the album throughout the middle section that weren't on the DVD, that would be intense.

I don't have the studio version. As I think live BE is way better and guys the atmosphere and mood of what BE is.

[pain of occupation]

really?!! i thought he only improved the songs from the when the DVD was recorded to when the CD was tracked...gave him some time to work on a few things that werent yet perfected, i always thought.

[Adami]

There were quite a few improvements made to the studio CD of BE over the live. However the live version has a few things that the studio sorely lacks.

- Johan's lead vocals at times
- Original guitar solo in Iter Impus
- Way better production
- Better vocals on that churchish song
- The Rawness of it all is superior to the super polished studio version.

Few other things like guitar sounds and vocal production and stuff that I can't recall the specifics of.


I would love a blend of the two versions somehow.

[pain of occupation]

well now you guys have me wanting to throw in the "BE" DVD sometime soon. i havent watched it in forever; i always just throw on 'the second death of" when i need my POS live dvd fix.

[AcidLameLTE]

Only 3 days until I see them in a 110 capacity venue

[pain of occupation]

wow. sounds like something that could be the 'best concert experience of all time".

jealous.

[petrucci07]

Cryptex and Lifescreen are supporting at the European shows.

They're not very good

[Silver Tears]

TOMORROWTOMORROWTOMORROW!!

Any other DTFers going to the Glasgow gig? (apart from acidlameface)

[AcidLameLTE]

Shut up

[faemir]

WOO STILL GOING

I remembered a friend who is at leeds university, staying over his.

PHEW

[AcidLameLTE]

Nice! Gig tonight

[Zantera]

I saw the setlist for the show yesterday. Not really overwhelmed, I do think it will be cool to see them never the less, but without spoiling it for anyone else, it wasn't really any of the older tracks that I REALLY want to see badly.
However, the setlist might change with a song here or there, so we'll see.

[AcidLameLTE]

Excellent gig. I was so close to Daniel Gildenlöw I could feel his breath. Also, I couldn't take many photos because the lighting wasn't great but I was so close that I didn't want to fire off the flash in their faces. Here's some of the ones I took anyway:

Guy from the support band:











Daniel Gildenlöw explaining that their tour bus was taller than the venue:

[bout to crash]

Moar Ragnar plz

[faemir]

Saw them in Leeds, setlist was great though they had a plethora of technical issues (so we got some impromptu Beatles, yay).

The mics were waay too quite so I couldn't clearly hear the singing for a loot of the show which was disappointing, but my friends with earplugs said they could nicely hear everything so of course the sound mixer would be ignorant to those like me too.

Fat tall people in front for a lot of it, support bands were crap (started at 8pm...PoS came on at 10pm, fuck I wish we didn't have support bands).

One super bright light was shining in my eyes for half the show, I couldnt look at the stage it was fucking ridiculous.

The epic final song was almost almost almost ruined by some FUCK directly behind me who was clapping out of time loudly for the whole song.. on his own. ARGH FUCK THAT GUY. I so nearly turned around but I tried to enjoy the song instead and pretty much did.

Leo and Daniel were awesome, the temps were cool too.


They had so many problems as I was hearing talking to all their cool staff, they were missing half there gear as it was in Germany (lighting, amps, guitars, merch etc.) because of some idiots who took out shit they shouldn't have.

All in all it was great with a great setlist, but I definitely want to see them again so I can.. hear things better and be able to look at them without being blinded or blocked by a fat tall woman or guy with huge mohawk.

[petrucci07]

Went to the show with Faemir, but I had earplugs so the sound was somehow better for me. Setlist was epic as fuck, ENTER RAAAAIN

[faemir]

Beyond the Pale > The Perfect Element