Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)

[jonny108]

Softly She Cried [second last]

[softly he cries]

But... but... it's a great song

It's an awesome song! Doesn't mean I don't like it because it's near the bottom, I love them all 

[Liberation]

Yay

[ClairvoyantCat]

Me while listening to the fast jammy section in the middle of Healing Now: 

[abydos]

So they had a show here, some guy has uploaded a few songs with decent quality. Here's Ashes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aOVDvudZBU

[bout to crash]

That fuckin' song still gives me chills.

[Liberation]

My greatest wish is Enter Rain live. And in general more Scarsick songs in the rotation, I don't see why there can't be 3 in every setlist, I know it's a pretty controversial album but on Ending Themes you can really see people get into them. They have a lot of energy.

[Zantera]

I can only speak for myself, and the fact that I don't like Scarsick that much, apart from a few really good songs it has.
However, I think their earlier catalog is SO good, and RS2 brought so many good tracks to the table, that if I would make up a wish-setlist, there wouldn't be much room for any Scarsick songs left.

[Ultimetalhead]

So, I'm starting to think that I like RS1 more than RS2. Am I crazy?

[Gorille85]

RS2 only comes out over here in two weeks... WTF

[jonny108]

So, I'm starting to think that I like RS1 more than RS2. Am I crazy?

Yes, you are crazy.

[Zydar]

[Zantera]

So, I'm starting to think that I like RS1 more than RS2. Am I crazy?

Yes, you are crazy.

[Dr. DTVT]

So, I'm starting to think that I like RS1 more than RS2. Am I crazy?

You were already crazy.  This more or less confirms you're a terrible human being.

[Perpetual Change]

So, I'm starting to think that I like RS1 more than RS2. Am I crazy?

I like RS1 a lot more than RS2. RS2's out of the box songs like "To the Shoreline" are a step-forward, but almost all the 70s sounding stuff is a huge step back.

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

RS2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RS1

[73109]

Wait...wait...wait...

RS1=RS2

[Zantera]

RS2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RS1

This.
RS2 is about a 4,5/5 album for me, meanwhile RS1 would be a 3/5 album.

[ariich]

Wait...wait...wait...

RS1=RS2

This.

Both are amazing, I don't think I can really choose between them.

[NecessaryPain]

I'd say they're both as good as each other.

There's no way RS2 is miles better than RS1, and the same vice-versa.

Personally, as much as I dig the new stuff, I think it's time for a new direction already. More prog rock/metal, please.

[Zantera]

Yeah the 70's thing is fairly lame for me.
They did two albums, one good and one great (as I see it), and something new and refreshing would be cool.
Even though I don't care that much for Scarsick as an album, TPE part 3 would be cool.

[Perpetual Change]

Like I said, both these album are what, like just under an hour? I think there's a good 30 minutes of great music on each. Two albums probably wasn't necessary.

[faemir]

I love TPE1 and Scarsick, so I would totally welcome part 3.

[Ultimetalhead]

I've got this delusion that Gildenlow will end up returning to delicious prog metal when he does TPE part III. Or, he could make another Scarsick, which would taint the entire series. THERE'S STILL TIME TO SAVE THE NAME OF THE PERFECT ELEMENT, DANIEL. MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.

[ariich]

I don't think he'll do the same thing as the RS albums again, but I don't expect him to do anything else again either. I imagine he'll explore something else new as he always does.

[bout to crash]

 

Anyway, finally got RS2 yesterday (had to go to three different stores) and will be listening to it on my commute

[Liberation]

I've got this delusion that Gildenlow will end up returning to delicious prog metal when he does TPE part III. Or, he could make another Scarsick, which would taint the entire series. THERE'S STILL TIME TO SAVE THE NAME OF THE PERFECT ELEMENT, DANIEL. MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.

Why exactly do you need to "save" something that has two flawless parts this far?

Also, it seems every album starting with BE is a 180 degrees turn. Epic, symphonic and philosophical BE -> dark, ultramodern and down to earth Scarsick -> lively '70s Road Salt.

Conclusion? ELECTRONIC ALBUM INCOMING

[Zantera]

I would probably enjoy an electronic album more then RS1 and Scarsick to be honest, but in terms of variety, I think they hit a homerun with The Perfect Element really.
That album just has loads of variety, and doesn't really have a single weak spot throughout.

[Ultimetalhead]

I've got this delusion that Gildenlow will end up returning to delicious prog metal when he does TPE part III. Or, he could make another Scarsick, which would taint the entire series. THERE'S STILL TIME TO SAVE THE NAME OF THE PERFECT ELEMENT, DANIEL. MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.

Why exactly do you need to "save" something that has two flawless parts this far?

Scarsick is an abomination.

[Liberation]

I haven't noticed.

[Gorille85]

Scarsick is good though. And I would love to hear an electronic album by them!

[NecessaryPain]

I don't think he'll do the same thing as the RS albums again, but I don't expect him to do anything else again either. I imagine he'll explore something else new as he always does.

That's fine by me. PoS is always evolving and always making new music.

I don't necessarily want another RL or TPE, either. I'm happy for some new stuff.

Just no more 70's. They are both worthy additions to their discography, and they will be awesome live, but two albums is plenty.

I wouldn't be suprised if Gildenlow decided to go for a heavier approach next time round. That's something they've not quite explored yet.

[ariich]

I'd love to hear something more electronic from PoS. 1979 showed how amazingly that kind of influence can work.

[ClairvoyantCat]

Scarsick is good though. And I would love to hear an electronic album by them!

I'd be interested in seeing how this would work.  They have such an organic sound (especially in the more recent efforts, but throughout their proggy years as well) that it's not easy to imagine how they would create an electronic album and still make it sound like Pain of Salvation.  As far as what's coming next, the only hint I know of is that Daniel said that TPE3 is still to come, and it will be symphonic.  But even that was a while ago, and it's very possible that things have changed.  I can't wait to see where they go next! 

[faemir]

Can anyone explain why Portnoy seems to always do drums on Ashes whenever possible?

[petrucci07]

Can anyone explain why Portnoy seems to always do drums on Ashes whenever possible?

He likes the song+likes playing with other bands+is ronery