Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)

[Liberation]

A massive ideology? Nothing I posted didn't make sense, Daniel feels the exact same way as the character on Scarsick, he went from deep emotional rages about his parents raising him to complaining about fast food.


Really?

You just exaggerated so hard my desk broke...

He was an idealist who couldn't fit into society. In TPE1 it was mostly personal issues, in TPE2 there's a whole lot of things fucked up in a greater perspective he can't stand. No, it's not just fast food. People don't kill themselves because they hate fast food, even fictional artistic creations. We're talking about things like hypocrisy, inequality, religious fanaticism in what's supposed to be a modern and progressive society (-> Mrs Modern Mother Mary), and most of all, having the choice of either "closing your eyes" and ignoring everything that's wrong in order to be happy, or being aware of all that shit that happens which leads most likely to dying unhappy an in conflict with everything around - which he does.

I'm trying to put it in a civilised way but it simply pisses me off when someone tries to destroy the value of something which is a very interesting artistic creation, but is simply not very accessible. You don't like it, fine. But trying to make it sound like a gorilla recorded random screams and released it as an album just because you don't like it is not a good thing.

(Yes I just exaggerated too. But for a good reason I believe.)

[ClairvoyantCat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSgC2x7FYdA

The studio version of Conditioned was played on Morow. 

I really like it.  The second half is very cool.

[NecessaryPain]

Always loved the sound of Condtioned.

Can't wait for RS2.

[Silver Tears]

^ Pretty cool song, can't wait for the album 

[Ultimetalhead]

That whole song rules, but the second half is especially awesome.

[Gorille85]

Listening to the new song right now.

[The King in Crimson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSgC2x7FYdA

The studio version of Conditioned was played on Morow. 

I really like it.  The second half is very cool.

That's pretty awesome.

Really looking forward to RS2 now.

[lodeus]

Anyone no where to pre-order this for people in the US. Its pretty expensive at Amazon.

[The King in Crimson]

Anyone no where to pre-order this for people in the US. Its pretty expensive at Amazon.

cmdistro has the US preorders up.

[lodeus]

Thanks.

[Phoenix87x]

After the 4th listen, BE has finally clicked and man oh man, is this album incredible.

and

I was going through some old ticket stubs and was looking over my original Prog Nation 09 stub that still had Pain of Salvation written on it and it is really a shame they couldn't make it. Didn't even know who they were at the time, but I was getting into them in preparation for that specific concert only for it all to go pair shaped at the last minute. 

[petrucci07]

After the 4th listen, BE has finally clicked and man oh man, is this album incredible.

It really is man 


According to Rate You Music, Road Salt Two is their best album. Weird.

[Zantera]

Can't wait for Road Salt Two, I liked the first one, but didn't really find any stand-out songs, and I'm hoping that RS2 might be even better.

[ClairvoyantCat]

After the 4th listen, BE has finally clicked and man oh man, is this album incredible.

It really is man 


According to Rate You Music, Road Salt Two is their best album. Weird.

I'd probably chalk it up to the fact that there are only 8 ratings so far. 

although

[spoilers]
As it stands now, I can easily see it being one of my favorite records from them.  There are some real standout tracks, especially To The Shoreline, which is a goddamn perfect song, and The Deeper Cut as well.  I've had the promo for about a week and it's still been growing on me.  There are a few tracks that drag it down, but I think the overall quality is considerably stronger than Road Salt Two, which I also loved. 
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[NecessaryPain]

You can listen to 'Eleven' on this webpage:

https://metalkiller54.blogspot.com/2008/05/atrox-trilogie-binocluar.html

Wait for the jukebox to load up on the right side of the page.

Sounds good!

[abydos]

Of what I've heard so far, there seem to be no redeeming quality to RS2. As bad as RS1 was (imo) at least it had Sisters and Road Salt. They sounded a bit forced and all but still were decent. This on the other hand-  I can't really stand. To each their own

[TheVoxyn]

RS2 is fucking awesome.

[ariich]

Of what I've heard so far, there seem to be no redeeming quality to RS2. As bad as RS1 was (imo) at least it had Sisters and Road Salt. They sounded a bit forced and all but still were decent. This on the other hand-  I can't really stand. To each their own

[Zantera]

As much as I like RS1, it doesn't have any standout songs for me personally.
Yeah there are some great ones like Sisters, but if I compiled a top20 PoS-list, it would be RS1-free.

Anyhow, can't say anything about RS2 since I haven't heard it yet, but I have high hopes for it!

[abydos]

Of what I've heard so far, there seem to be no redeeming quality to RS2. As bad as RS1 was (imo) at least it had Sisters and Road Salt. They sounded a bit forced and all but still were decent. This on the other hand-  I can't really stand. To each their own

I am glad that after all these years I still am capable of surprising people lol.

[ClairvoyantCat]

As bad as RS1 was

I lost you right there. 

[TheVoxyn]

INTO THE WILD

[Nick]

INTO THE WILD

[Adami]

Of what I've heard so far, there seem to be no redeeming quality to RS2. As bad as RS1 was (imo) at least it had Sisters and Road Salt. They sounded a bit forced and all but still were decent. This on the other hand-  I can't really stand. To each their own

I am glad that after all these years I still am capable of surprising people lol.

That's not a person, that's a cat.

[TheVoxyn]

The 60's were gone but their soul lingered on. And the 80's were still just a promise.

[Adami]

The 60's were gone but their soul lingered on. And the 80's were still just a promise.

Please tell me those aren't lyrics on the album. Please.

[TheVoxyn]

The 60's were gone but their soul lingered on. And the 80's were still just a promise.

Please tell me those aren't lyrics on the album. Please.

I shall not tell you that. Nor deny it.






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I think the lyrics aren't on par with their best work (BE, RL, TPE etc.) but they are still pretty good. Although I haven't listened to them very intensly so my opinion on them might change

[Phoenix87x]

This band is pretty much owning my life right now. I can not stop listening to them and I can not get them out of my head. The last time I felt like this was when I discovered Porcupine Tree.

I listened to Water, off of Concrete Lake, about 5 times today, and the whole album itself 3 times.  Damn they are good. 

[Nel_Annette]

So is Ascend I and II actually from something or is that just something they do on 12:5? I like that instrumental.

[Zantera]

So is Ascend I and II actually from something or is that just something they do on 12:5? I like that instrumental.

Ascend I is Idioglossia, and Ascend II is the instrumental-section of Her Voices. 

Personally I love 12:5, quite possibly my favorite PoS-release. 

Phoenix87x @ I love Water! Such a great song, and IMO very underrated among fans, but I rank it as one of the best on One Hour.

[MirzekDT]

Phoenix87x @ I love Water! Such a great song, and IMO very underrated among fans, but I rank it as one of the best on One Hour.

I agree it's very underrated song I'm not sure I've ever seen it discussed before so it's nice to finally see some appreciation for that song 2:43-3:29 is the best part. What an amazing song.

[Zantera]

It's really a great tune, the first thing that clicked was the chorus, really amazing.
Hopefully they'll play it live in the future somehow, they could probably break it down and make a brickwork-type of song out of it, or just play it as it is.

[ClairvoyantCat]

Flush.

and Flush!



and WEEEEEEEEEEEEE FLUSH!

[VioletS16]

What album would you suggest someone who likes some PoS to get? I am not sure but it seems The Perfect Element ranks high on everyones list. suggestions? 

[bout to crash]

Well, it depends which PoS you like already, but I think TPE and Remedy Lane are awesome starters...