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I Listened to Raw Dog Again

Started by ReaPsTA, July 24, 2010, 06:49:41 AM

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ReaPsTA

And I couldn't resist, I got pumped. I had to get up and air drum.

Maybe I'm just being pandered to because I like heavy music, but I don't understand the song's somewhat Lukewarm response. It's a bunch of awesome heavy riffs, melodies, and solos that build to the really intense unison into keyboard breakdown, topped off by what sounds like an army marching off into battle. What's there not to like?

Jamesman42

30 views and no replies...really?

Listening again. It's so crazy, I love it. The unison is awesome and I love bass wah going on. One-off or not, DT wrote an awesome metal instrumental.
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pogoowner

Quote from: ReaPsTA on July 24, 2010, 06:49:41 AM
And I couldn't resist, I got pumped. I had to get up and air drum.

Maybe I'm just being pandered to because I like heavy music, but I don't understand the song's somewhat Lukewarm response. It's a bunch of awesome heavy riffs, melodies, and solos that build to the really intense unison into keyboard breakdown, topped off by what sounds like an army marching off into battle. What's there not to like?
It sounds like a bunch of completely random ideas that they threw together in about a day.

TAC

I agree Reap. I listened to it a bunch lately. Even the King Crimsonish intro and outro are growing on me. Everything else in the middle is outstanding. I think people were expecting to be blown away and were simply greeted with a solid if unspectacular tune.

If this song had a different title and was neatly tucked away on a LTE album,  no one would've had a problem with it.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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King Postwhore

I thought it was ok but let be serious. It was made for a video game that has a lot of carnage. They were going for a certain vibe for the game and I'm ok with it.
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OperantChamber

Quote from: pogoowner on July 24, 2010, 09:01:53 AMIt sounds like a bunch of completely random ideas that they threw together in about a day.

I think this is part of why people don't like it. Mike made it clear that they used leftovers from Black Clouds instead of putting together something totally new.
Or maybe some people just don't like it.
:dunno:

rumborak

I don't know, but the fact that DT has not played this live either probably also shows how DT themselves are not considering it a super-great tune.

rumborak

perfey

Inspired by this thread I listened to it again, only listened it to it in the winter one time when it was relaesed. And its actually a lot better this time around. I really like Jordans patch with JP:s heavy riffing in the intro and the outro, its atmospheric, and I like his JR:s playing over it in the outro. I hope they play it live or put it on a DVD.

When I first heard it: 1/5

Now: 5/5

kirbywelch92

The cymbal bell hit at 3:44 pretty much makes that song.

Adami

It has very cool riffs, and the intro is neat. But it's seriously barely a song. I also feel this way about TDOE. They just seem like some cool ideas randomly thrown together with the intent of being fun to play above anything else. But if you like it, awesome.
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AcidLameLTE

It's an alright song. I have a big problem with it like a lot of people seem to.

rumborak

Quote from: perfey on July 24, 2010, 10:11:49 AM
When I first heard it: 1/5

Now: 5/5

No offense, but that looks more like serious rating fail than a reasonable reevaluation of the song.

rumborak

Perpetual Change

It's good, but nothing special.

Gadough

Quote from: kirbywelch92 on July 24, 2010, 12:27:39 PM
The cymbal bell hit at 3:44 pretty much makes that song.

...Why's that? I had actually never noticed it before, and had to re-listen to it just to know what you were talking about.

j

Quote from: TAC on July 24, 2010, 09:04:41 AM
If this song had a different title and was neatly tucked away on a LTE album,  no one would've had a problem with it.

You really think so?  I don't think it COULD be "tucked away" on an LTE album; it'd stick out like a sore thumb for a lot of reasons.

I listened to it a few times when it came out, but not since.  Just wasn't very interesting to me.  I'll give it another listen here in a few days.

-J

ScioPath

Quote from: TAC on July 24, 2010, 09:04:41 AM
If this song had a different title

You know it's called that because it's 'God War' backwards.

Zook

I like ''War God'' better. And to the one that said they didn't notice the cymbal bell hit: How didn't you? It starts off the fast solo section.

ScioPath

The game is called God (of) War, not War God.

Arcaeus

Intro and outro are annoying as hell, but there's some great stuff sprinkled in the middle. A mess, but a fun mess, and I think that's what they were going for.

kirbywelch92

Quote from: Gadough on July 24, 2010, 07:44:47 PM
Quote from: kirbywelch92 on July 24, 2010, 12:27:39 PM
The cymbal bell hit at 3:44 pretty much makes that song.

...Why's that? I had actually never noticed it before, and had to re-listen to it just to know what you were talking about.

Haha, it's understandable. It's certainly not something that's really enjoyable for most people, but the fact that all the action stops just to throw in that bell hit, it's like red-light green-light. Plus it jumps into one of the sections I actually like.

Zook

God War sounds like broken english whereas War God doesn't. But then of course Mike wouldn't have his enuendo so oh well.

ScioPath

What do you want it to be called?
Raw fo Dog?

Zook

Yes. That is what I want. That would be so epic and cool. I hope they change the name.

chrisbDTM

awesome song. needs more props

hefdaddy42

Quote from: TAC on July 24, 2010, 09:04:41 AM
If this song had a different title and was neatly tucked away on a LTE album,  no one would've had a problem with it.
LTE fans would.

I really like the King Crimson-ish intro, but the rest is just a mess.  Nothing to get excited about, and it doesn't sound as if the band was excited about it, either.
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AwakeFromOctavarium

Raw Dog is pretty good if you listen to it from time to time, but so are most songs from generic popular metal bands like the big 4, avenged sevenfold, etc. I don't see depth in RD.

perfey

Quote from: rumborak on July 24, 2010, 05:35:06 PM
Quote from: perfey on July 24, 2010, 10:11:49 AM
When I first heard it: 1/5

Now: 5/5

No offense, but that looks more like serious rating fail than a reasonable reevaluation of the song.

rumborak

Yeah, with afterthought it maybe was a little bit overpositive, so its ranks from bad to okay 3/5.

KevShmev

It is not a terrible song, but it sounds like just a bunch of riffs and leftover ideas thrown together randomly.  I just listened to it again for the first time in a while, and was reminded of why I rarely listen to it.  I am amused by the fact that in iTunes, "Pull Me Under" comes right after it (since I&W comes alphabetically after God of War, and the DT stuff is listened in order by albums alphabetically). :lol :lol

Jamesman42

It's just a fun little tune. Yeah, it's DT being very metal, but they have some really cool instrumentation going on in the middle. The intro and outro serve their purpose to lead into and out the song. Nothing near my favorite DT instrumental, and I hope it doesn't stop them from including a new instrumental on their 11th disc.
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BRGM

Quote from: Zook on July 24, 2010, 09:29:10 PM
Yes. That is what I want. That would be so epic and cool. I hope they change the name.

Who cares about the name?! It could've been named "Eat my ass and balls" I wouldn't like it less, it's a very cool song that I've listen way to..little...too...I'm hoping for it to be played at their An Evening With Tour :)      :metal

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LCArenas

It's not a bad instrumental. However I think it's boring until 3:20. That's when the song REALLY starts.

Jamesman42

This song is really clicking with me.
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BRGM

To me it's better than Ytse Jam...and well..no question about it being better than Eve...pfft