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KevShmev

"Unnatural Selection" is freaking awesome, and the "Exogenesis" suite is rad as hell.  I love the middle of Part 2 where it picks up and he is singing over that awesome string section.  

tbw2445

Quote from: KevShmev on September 16, 2009, 11:21:16 AM
"Unnatural Selection" is freaking awesome, and the "Exogenesis" suite is rad as hell.  I love the middle of Part 2 where it picks up and he is singing over that awesome string section.  
Hell yeah man!

ariich

Quote from: KevShmev on September 16, 2009, 11:21:16 AM
"Unnatural Selection" is freaking awesome, and the "Exogenesis" suite is rad as hell.  I love the middle of Part 2 where it picks up and he is singing over that awesome string section. 
Both of these!

I think Exogenesis is great. Aside from the orchestra use, it's very OoS. The intro sounds a hell of a lot like the start to Megalomania, and the last part sounds a bit like the outro to Citizen Erased. Great great stuff!

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KevShmev

Yeah, I don't get some of the "it's not epic enough" opinions about the suite.  Muse is not some band that is gonna do an over-the-top epic.  The whole suite is very well-written, and is just a gorgeous overall piece of music.  

And I cannot remember if I said hear yet or not, but I love how much piano is on this record.  Matt Bellamy is a beast on the piano; I think he could be one of rock's best, but he doesn't play it enough, and it is not even his "main" instrument, so he will never get his due, but make no mistake, the guy can play his rocks off.

skydivingninja

The first part of Exogenesis sounds like Micro Cuts pt. II.  Overall the whole thing's pretty good.  I guess I was just a little too hyped that they'd do something as epic as Take a Bow.

ariich

Quote from: KevShmev on September 16, 2009, 12:10:52 PM
And I cannot remember if I said hear yet or not, but I love how much piano is on this record.  Matt Bellamy is a beast on the piano; I think he could be one of rock's best, but he doesn't play it enough, and it is not even his "main" instrument, so he will never get his due, but make no mistake, the guy can play his rocks off.
Completely agreed about the piano playing on this record. I mean, I like Black Holes a lot, but the reduced amount of piano was a shame. Nice to hear it in heavy usage again.

Although I'm not sure I agree about it not being his main instrument... unless you mean his main one is voice. It's certainly more his main instrument than guitar, he just plays guitar a lot more live (i.e. in songs where he has recorded both guitar and keys/piano in the studio, he'll usually pick guitar) because he can move around on the stage and "pull rock star poses". That's paraphrased from something he said after making Absolution I think.

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shadowfex

The third part of exogenesis is one of the most beautiful songs i've heard.

EmilSumm

The album has grown on me, but I still think is their worst. I don't enjoy most of the songs, but I dont' think they are bad, not at all. Just not my cup of tea.

Quote from: shadowfex on September 16, 2009, 02:28:42 PM
The third part of exogenesis is one of the most beautiful songs i've heard.

And this.

KevShmev

Quote from: ariich on September 16, 2009, 01:54:33 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on September 16, 2009, 12:10:52 PM
And I cannot remember if I said hear yet or not, but I love how much piano is on this record.  Matt Bellamy is a beast on the piano; I think he could be one of rock's best, but he doesn't play it enough, and it is not even his "main" instrument, so he will never get his due, but make no mistake, the guy can play his rocks off.
Completely agreed about the piano playing on this record. I mean, I like Black Holes a lot, but the reduced amount of piano was a shame. Nice to hear it in heavy usage again.

Although I'm not sure I agree about it not being his main instrument... unless you mean his main one is voice. It's certainly more his main instrument than guitar, he just plays guitar a lot more live (i.e. in songs where he has recorded both guitar and keys/piano in the studio, he'll usually pick guitar) because he can move around on the stage and "pull rock star poses". That's paraphrased from something he said after making Absolution I think.

Generally speaking, he plays guitar far more than piano, in the studio as well as live, so that is why I would call that his main instrument.

Quote from: EmilSumm on September 16, 2009, 03:40:00 PM
The album has grown on me, but I still think is their worst.

It is still too early for me to say if I like it as much or more than Absolution, Black Holes... or Origin of Symmetry, but unless you don't like this record at all, I have a hard time believing a Muse fan would like Showbiz more than this.  Showbiz has a few really good songs, but has a lot of crap, too; I consider it their worst album, by far.

Nick

I honestly find that Showbiz isn't this great abomination that most Muse fans think it is, I rather enjoyed it. I'm not saying I like it more than the other three, but there is not this huge gap between it and the other three in my eyes.

Also, my copy of this shipped this morning. :D

Keytard

This CD is so good!!!! There are very few CDs which, from the first note, make me say "this is fucking good!". This CD is one of those. It is really catchy, and really interesting.

ariich

Quote from: Nick on September 17, 2009, 08:12:45 AM
I honestly find that Showbiz isn't this great abomination that most Muse fans think it is, I rather enjoyed it. I'm not saying I like it more than the other three, but there is not this huge gap between it and the other three in my eyes.
I don't think anyone has called it an abomination; it's a good album, but it's nowhere near as good as anything else they've done.

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SoundscapeMN

for the European people. Biffy Clyro is going to be opening for Muse on some dates in November and December 2009.

To see Biffy and Muse in 1 show would be pretty sweet.

Biffy Clyro's myspace blog
https://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=7901934&blogId=510558489


QuoteBIFFY TO SUPPORT MUSE - RESCHEDULE SEVERAL UK AND EUROPEAN SHOWS!
Biffy Clyro are delighted to announce that they have been invited by Muse to be their main support on 14 massive dates across Europe through November and December.

Unfortunately because of these support dates it has meant that several of the band's UK and European headline shows have been rescheduled. The UK dates being rearranged are Southampton Guildhall moving to 24 October and Cardiff University to 25 October.

The band and management are sorry to anyone inconvenienced by the change of dates, but please be assured that all tickets for the shows are still valid for the rescheduled dates. We will be announcing rescheduled dates for the Dresden, Warsaw, Prague, Barcelona, Madrid and Toulouse shows in the coming weeks.

For more information and ticket details check out our new site at www.biffyclyro.com

The full list of UK, Ireland and European shows including those with Muse are:

Oct
24 Southampton, Guildhall. UK (Please note rescheduled date)
25 Cardiff, University. UK (Please note rescheduled date
28 Belfast, St. George's Market. UK
29 Dublin, Olympia. Ireland

Nov
01 Dundee, Caird Hall, UK
02 Glasgow, Barrowland. UK
03 Glasgow, Barrowland. UK
04 Newcastle, Academy. UK
06 Leeds, Academy. UK
07 Manchester, Apollo. UK
08 Nottingham, Rock City. UK
09 Birmingham, Academy. UK
11 Norwich, UEA. UK
12 London, Brixton Academy. UK

14 Rotterdam, Ahoy. Holland (w/Muse)
15 Saarbrücken, Garage. Germany
16 Cologne, Lanxess Arena. Germany (w/Muse)
17 Paris, Bercy. France (w/Muse)
18 Zurich, Hallenstadion. Switzerland (w/Muse)
20 Munich, Olympiahalle. Germany (w/Muse)
21 Bologna, FuturShow Station. Italy (w/Muse)
22 Lyon, Hall Tony Garnier. France (w/Muse)
23 Cologne, Gloria. Germany
25 Toulouse, Zenith. France (w/Muse)
27 Barcelona, Pabellion Olympicaale da Badalona. Spain (w/Muse)
28 Madrid, Palacio de Deportes. Spain (w/Muse)
29 Lisbon, Pavilhao Atlantico. Portugal (w/Muse)

Dec
01 Limoges, Zenith. France (w/Muse)
02 Dijon, Zenith. France (w/Muse)
04 Turin, Palasport Olimpico. Italy (w/Muse)



05 Zurich, Mascotte. Switzerland
06 Munich, Backstage. Italy
07 Milan, Magnolia. Italy
09 Fribourg, Fri-Son. Switzerland
10 Vienna, Flex. Austria (Please note rescheduled date)
11 Wiesbaden, Schlachthof. Germany (Please note rescheduled date)
12 Hamburg, Grunspan. Germany (Please note rescheduled date)
13 Berlin, Postbanhof. Germany (Please note rescheduled date)
15 Paris, La Trabendo. France
16 Brussels, VK. Belgium
17 Amsterdam, Melkweg. Holland
19 Copenhagen, Loppen. Denmark (Please note rescheduled date)
20 Rotterdam, Watt Basement. Holland (Please note rescheduled date)
21 Bochum, Zeche. Germany (Please note rescheduled date)


ariich

The bass line in Resistance is so friggin' great and really loud in the mix!

Anyone who hasn't paid attention to this while listening, go and do so now!

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DarkLord_Lalinc

The bass is so prominent in the whole album it's ridiculous and amazingly good.

ariich

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on September 17, 2009, 01:35:00 PM
The bass is so prominent in the whole album it's ridiculous and amazingly good.
I know, but the part in that song in particular is just amazing :D

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OsMosis2259

United States of EURAJAAAAAAA  JAAAAAAAAAAAAAA JAAAAAAAAAAAAA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os_nITXTSuM

Scurvy!Dreams

I just realized that USoE is a pretty good song except for the retarded chanting.

shadowfex

Quote from: Scurvy!Dreams on September 17, 2009, 09:24:31 PM
I just realized that USoE is a pretty good song except for the retarded chanting.

I think a lot of people were put off by the queen vocals and the lyrical content. I think it's a great track and that violin/piano section that comes in after the 'United Staaaaaaates of...' part is ridiculously good.

Space Invader

It took a couple listens, but this CD is RIDICULOUSLY good. It blows my mind how Muse can creat an epic, beutiful soundscape that is still catchy and easy to listen to. Matt's vocals are amazing, Chris pulls of some super groovy bass lines, and Dom brings a solid background. All around brilliant. Top songs: Resistance, MK Ultra, Unnatural Selection, Exogenesis.

Nick

Got this in today. :D

Not going to listen to it till I go to visit Amanda later, as she'll want to hear it.

KevShmev

So far, songs I am totally loving:

"I Belong to You"
"Exogenesis"
"Unnatural Selection"

Songs I am liking a lot:

"Resistance"
"Uprising"

Songs I go back and forth between liking and being somewhat indifferent towards:

"Indisclosed Desires"
"United States of Eurasia"
"Guiding Light"
"MK Ultra"

Overall, I like this record a lot, but I have a feeling that the least best songs not being nearly as good as the least best songs on the three previous albums will put it at fourth on my favorite Muse records list. Nothing wrong with that. :)

Progmetty

Which album to start with for this band fellas?

ariich


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shadowfex

Quote from: metty on September 18, 2009, 09:51:56 AM
Which album to start with for this band fellas?

As already said, you can't go wron with either Absolution or Origin of Symmetry. If you don't love either of those albums you probably won't love Muse.

Dcrupi

Just bought this album yesterday, been listening to it nonstop since.

INCREDIBLE job by Muse, I can't believe some of the bad press it's getting...I think it's an absolutely fantastic album.

Best tracks IMO: Exogenesis is simply impeccable--beautiful and inspiring and very well crafted.  Uprising is catchy as hell, and Unnatural Selection is a great rocker.  The title track is also a big winner in my book, and MK Ultra continues to grow on me...and for some reason I have a strange fascination with Undisclosed Desires, but I can't really figure out why.  Also the "United States of...EURASIA" part in that song is incredible.

WHAT AN AWESOME ALBUM.

robwebster

Quote from: KevShmev on September 17, 2009, 08:11:07 AM
Quote from: ariich on September 16, 2009, 01:54:33 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on September 16, 2009, 12:10:52 PM
And I cannot remember if I said hear yet or not, but I love how much piano is on this record.  Matt Bellamy is a beast on the piano; I think he could be one of rock's best, but he doesn't play it enough, and it is not even his "main" instrument, so he will never get his due, but make no mistake, the guy can play his rocks off.
Completely agreed about the piano playing on this record. I mean, I like Black Holes a lot, but the reduced amount of piano was a shame. Nice to hear it in heavy usage again.

Although I'm not sure I agree about it not being his main instrument... unless you mean his main one is voice. It's certainly more his main instrument than guitar, he just plays guitar a lot more live (i.e. in songs where he has recorded both guitar and keys/piano in the studio, he'll usually pick guitar) because he can move around on the stage and "pull rock star poses". That's paraphrased from something he said after making Absolution I think.

Generally speaking, he plays guitar far more than piano, in the studio as well as live, so that is why I would call that his main instrument.
He actually writes all his songs on piano. Even heavy riffs like Stockholm Syndrome or dancey ones like Supermassive Black Hole, it's almost all originally written on piano. He's a far better pianist than guitarist. So yeah, piano's definitely DEFINITELY his main.

ZachyDou

Just bought it yesterday, early impressions are good

Phantasmatron

Quote from: Dcrupi on September 19, 2009, 10:12:25 PM
for some reason I have a strange fascination with Undisclosed Desires, but I can't really figure out why

Exactly this.  Every time it starts, I'm like "Oh, this]/i] one again."  But I keep going back to listen to it.

73109

I'm seeing Muse on Thurday. They are opening for U2. I really couldn't care less. I'm just throwing that piece of information out there.


tbw2445


ariich

Quote from: Pyroph on September 20, 2009, 01:45:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oTt8Noi5Rk
Oh. My. God.

That was absolutely hilarious!

Dom actually does a great job pretending to be a frontman :lol

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