"A Rite of Passage" - Yay or Nay?

Started by Samsara, April 24, 2019, 08:43:35 AM

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What do you think of the song "A Right of Passage?"

Love it - top tier DT song
4 (3.4%)
Like it - good DT song, one of the better in the catalog
34 (29.3%)
Filler
41 (35.3%)
Don't like it - bottom tier in the catalog.
37 (31.9%)

Total Members Voted: 116

Dedalus

I voted  "I do not like it - bottom tier in the catalog" because I didn't find the option "I hate this crap"  :lol

The Walrus

Quote from: IDontNotDoThings on April 24, 2019, 06:01:08 PM
I voted "love it". I don't understand why everyone seems to view it so unfavourably.

Read the thread and you might learn why! :neverusethis:

Grappler

I like it, but I never really paid attention to it when the album came out.  I listened to the disc last year and was baffled that there was a big heavy section in the middle of the song and I never realized it before.   :lol

hefdaddy42

Quote from: IDontNotDoThings on April 24, 2019, 06:01:08 PM
I voted "love it". I don't understand why everyone seems to view it so unfavourably.
I think multiple people have explained why they view it unfavorably.

But it's still just fine that you love it.
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Herrick

I like it but I don't think it's one of the better songs. Nor do I think it's filler. So Herrick cannot vote.
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Rattlehead

I like it, but I don't think it's one of their better songs either (still voted for the option though). I've never been a fan of the end of that keyboard solo  :-X

Dublagent66

Quote from: IDontNotDoThings on April 24, 2019, 06:01:08 PM
I voted "love it". I don't understand why everyone seems to view it so unfavourably.

Well, not exactly everyone.  22 people so far voted they like it.  Just a few more voted filler, which could possibly mean they still might like it...a little.   :biggrin:

bosk1

There really needed to be more of a middle of the road option along the lines of, "Nowhere near their best, but I like it."

Dublagent66

Agreed.  The poll may have a gap or two.

bosk1

The gap actually pisses me off because I want to vote and can't.  I AM DISENFRANCHISED!  :lol

jjfumbly

I voted filler but I like the chorus of that song quite a bit. It's not a bad song by any means.

Devin Townsend

IMO it's a waste of a great riff that resembles "Misunderstood". Aside from that, it's a song that I've barely payed attention to and I hate the chorus. Most of the song is mediocre  :tdwn

RoeDent

I'd put it somewhere between the middle two options, but closer to "filler", so that's the option I voted for. I don't hate it (hatred's too strong a term to use when it comes to any music; hatred implies that that thing's very existence is a genuine threat to human life), but it's far from top-tier DT.

gabeh1018

the song itself is nothing special, but JP's guitar solo is  a win!

pg1067

I voted bottom tier, but I'm not sure any of the options really reflect my opinion.  It's not a song I intentionally listen to, but I wouldn't say I dislike it.  It's simply "meh."  I'm not sure it's "bottom tier," but it's certainly in the bottom half of DT's catalog.

Bertielee

Bottom tier as well. Don't help that it is on one of my least favorite albums.

B.Lee

Samsara

Quote from: pg1067 on April 28, 2019, 07:55:21 PM
I voted bottom tier, but I'm not sure any of the options really reflect my opinion.  It's not a song I intentionally listen to, but I wouldn't say I dislike it.  It's simply "meh."  I'm not sure it's "bottom tier," but it's certainly in the bottom half of DT's catalog.

That probably would fall in the "filler" category, I think.
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Ninjabait

Eh, it's okay. I won't skip it if it comes on, but I almost never go out of my way to listen to it. It wouldn't end up in my Top 25 any time soon, but it's not a bottom tier Dream Theater song for me.

Definitely the weakest song on BC&SL, though, and that's saying something.

Zook

I listening to it the other day after several years, and it isn't terrible, but I think they could've workshopped it some more. The transition back to the last chorus is NOT WELL. Plus, the bebot solo is terrible and out of place.

54_diplomats

I used to kinda like this song but can't say I like it much at all anymore. It has VERY low energy, quite possibly the only song that feels like the band was just playing music for the sake of it. I also hate the Rudess tomfoolery towards the end. It sounds so obnoxious.

DT1138

I wish there was a choice between "Like it" and "Filler", so as I said in the other thread...

Kind of a mixed bag for me.  I like the words/melody/theme a lot but prefer the shorter version used in the music video.  The JR solo is basically a bunch of noise (2nd part) but I suppose it works for the song's purposes/theme.    JP's solo is killer, but his guitar tone really sucks here.

I chose "Like it" however because it's better than filler, to me at least.


PixelDream

Hands down my least favorite DT song. Even the production seems to sound worse than the rest of BCSL.


a51502112

It's a skipper for me. Actually, when I went to see them opening for Maiden, I was disappointed that they played it. The whole short set was the "stripped down" version for the Maiden fans. I felt like telling the people there for IM that this does not really represent Dream Theater the way I know them. "They're actually a really good band, honest!"  :rollin

TAC

Quote from: a51502112 on May 10, 2019, 11:16:03 AM
It's a skipper for me. Actually, when I went to see them opening for Maiden, I was disappointed that they played it. The whole short set was the "stripped down" version for the Maiden fans. I felt like telling the people there for IM that this does not really represent Dream Theater the way I know them. "They're actually a really good band, honest!"  :rollin

Yeah, I agree with you as far as I felt about that setlist. But it was perfectly constructed. The NY boot is great, because you can hear non DT fans progressively getting more into it with each song. I love the way MP arranged the songs so that each song was a little bit faster than the previous one. It was a setlist that truly built as it went along.
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Loggins

I really like it. I didn't go back and listen. I just remembered the song and how it strikes me. It's one I sing to and remember. Probably the best on that album, which isn't saying much.

Progmetty