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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: ReaperKK on October 01, 2023, 09:37:30 AM
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The countdown has begun. With over 400+ artists there was a suggestion to do a top 50. I think that's a great idea so I will start with 50 and do 2-3 spots a day until we get to 25 where I'll go down to one update a day.
Lists Received:
Buddyhunter1
Metropolaris
DTwwbwMP
Trav86
soupytwist
nobloodyname
Pappy
Fonzie
Sacul
TheHoveringSojourn808
Vmadera00
Setlist Scotty
CharlesPL
SwedishGoose
Stadler
WilliamMunny
Dream Team
pg1067
Nachtmerrie
HOF
PMSummer
twosuitsluke
ReaperKK
The Great Zo
Lethean
jingle.boy
devieira73
WardySI
coz
SomeoneLikeHim
elefantStone
TAC
Evermind
The Letter M
Dave_Manchester
bosk1
King Puppies and the Acid Guppies
romdrums
jammindude
Zydar
DragonAttack
Zoom E
LithoJazzoSphere
MustActFastToCoverUp
wolfking
nick_z
Rank:
50t. Miles Davis (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3044071#msg3044071)
50t. Symphony X (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3044071#msg3044071)
49. Agalloch (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3044490#msg3044490)
46t. King Crimson (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3044879#msg3044879)
46t. Avenged Sevenfold (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3044879#msg3044879)
46t. Scorpions (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3044879#msg3044879)
44t. The Dear Hunter (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3046067#msg3046067)
44t. Frank Zappa (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3046067#msg3046067)
43. Evergrey (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3046844#msg3046844)
42. UFO (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3046844#msg3046844)
40t. Godspeed You! Black Emperor (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3047492#msg3047492)
40t. Nightwish (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3047492#msg3047492)
39. Katatonia (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3047786#msg3047786)
38. Helloween (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3047786#msg3047786)
37. Between The Buried And Me (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3048035#msg3048035)
36. Anathema (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3048035#msg3048035)
35. Radiohead (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3048569#msg3048569)
33t. Big Big Train (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3048991#msg3048991)
33t. Peter Gabriel (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3048991#msg3048991)
32. Megadeth (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3049447#msg3049447)
31. Riverside (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3049447#msg3049447)
30. Kiss (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3049918#msg3049918)
29. Ayreon (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3049918#msg3049918)
28. Spock's Beard (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3050416#msg3050416)
27. Neal Morse (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3050416#msg3050416)
26. Pain Of Salvation (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3050626#msg3050626)
25. Devin Townsend (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3050956#msg3050956)
23t. Coheed & Cambria (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3051437#msg3051437)
23t. Mastodon (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3051918#msg3051918)
21t. Queen (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3052386#msg3052386)
21t. Tool (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3052878#msg3052878)
20. Black Sabbath (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3053424#msg3053424)
19. Transatlantic (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3053747#msg3053747)
18. Marillion (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3054169#msg3054169)
17. Judas Preist (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3054738#msg3054738)
16. Opeth (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3055047#msg3055047)
15. Yes (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3055439#msg3055439)
13t. Van Halen (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3055902#msg3055902)
13t. Steven Wilson (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3056334#msg3056334)
12. Fates Warning (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3056533#msg3056533)
11. Haken (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3056834#msg3056834)
10. Led Zeppelin (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3057162#msg3057162)
09. The Beatles (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3057489#msg3057489)
08. Queensryche (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3057968#msg3057968)
07. Genesis (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3058350#msg3058350)
06. Pink Floyd (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3058624#msg3058624)
05. Porcupine Tree (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3058876#msg3058876)
04. Metallica (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3059206#msg3059206)
03. Iron Maiden (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3059739#msg3059739)
02. Rush (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3060252#msg3060252)
01. Dream Theater (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3060697#msg3060697)
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Posting to remember to come back to this. Top 3 are set in stone, it'll be fun to see how I stack the remaining 22.
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This’ll be great. Honestly not sure many of mine will make the final list, but here’s hoping. I hope we can get as many people involved in this as possible.
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I'll get in on this.
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I'm not sure I'll have time to do this. I'm leaving on vacation tomorrow and won't be back until the end of the month. I'll see if I can scratch out some time while on vacation.
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Could probably whip something up for this, though beyond my like, top 5 I honestly don't give much thought as to the order of my favorites. But that's half the fun of these threads, I suppose.
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I knocked up a top 25 pretty easily. I won’t submit yet as there might be some slight adjustments, but it’s pretty set. I’m not surprised to find my top 25 sways towards thrash and punk bands.
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Should be fun! Can’t imagine more than a handful ending up on the final list.
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Posting to remember to come back to this.
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Sent mine. A good mix of DTFcore and some bands I'll probably be the only one ranking. :P
My ranking was largely determined by the quality of the studio albums, though there were a couple bands where being particularly great live may have bumped them up slightly.
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Also, before we get started.
Stadler….my love….there will be many classic artists not on the big list that you think should be and that other bands wouldn’t exist without.
It’s going to be okay. Remember, we love you.
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:rollin
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So is “bands” literal, or could it include solo acts?
I’m in for sure either way, just need to clarify before I make my list.
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So is “bands” literal, or could it include solo acts?
I’m in for sure either way, just need to clarify before I make my list.
Oh, that’s a good point. My list will be reviewed if we are adding solo artists.
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got my list in. looking forward to the full game! :metal
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So is “bands” literal, or could it include solo acts?
I’m in for sure either way, just need to clarify before I make my list.
Though Reaper and I didn't talk about it, since I'm the one who suggested the idea in the first place, I imagine it should be either, and I'd probably have said "artists" if I had created the OP. Certainly some of my own top 25 are more of solo individuals than bands, per se.
One of my biggest challenges is going to be deciding on a number of artists who have side projects where they're still some combination of the primary songwriter/instrumentalist/vocalist, but the projects have separate names and possibly different auxiliary musicians. Of those, which one to choose and how much to factor in the other projects into my ranking of the one I select, using the one I choose as a proxy for their varied body of work.
Working on my top 50 albums project gave me the impetus to try and sort this whole idea out better than I ever have, and I got my latest run down to a top 26, but deciding on who to cut is murder, and by the time of submission the next half-dozen I had already taken off might appeal to me more again.
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So is “bands” literal, or could it include solo acts?
I’m in for sure either way, just need to clarify before I make my list.
Though Reaper and I didn't talk about it, since I'm the one who suggested the idea in the first place, I imagine it should be either, and I'd probably have said "artists" if I had created the OP. Certainly some of my own top 25 are more of solo individuals than bands, per se.
One of my biggest challenges is going to be deciding on a number of artists who have side projects where they're still some combination of the primary songwriter/instrumentalist/vocalist, but the projects have separate names and possibly different auxiliary musicians. Of those, which one to choose and how much to factor in the other projects into my ranking of the one I select, using the one I choose as a proxy for their varied body of work.
Working on my top 50 albums project gave me the impetus to try and sort this out whole idea out better than I ever have, and I got my latest run down to a top 26, but deciding on who to cut is murder, and by the time of submission the next half-dozen I had already cut might appeal to me more again.
I was kind of hoping it was strictly bands, because I’m gonna have to make more choices if we include solo artists. But whichever you guys want it to be is fine.
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15. caroline polachek
It's fascinating to see people choose relatively recent artists (or as a manifestation of my side project dilemma, are you factoring in Chairlift and other work of her's?). I imagine some lists will basically only include artists from people's childhood/teens, and others could have more recency bias, and that's another ongoing struggle for mine.
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I was kind of hoping it was strictly bands, because I’m gonna have to make more choices if we include solo artists. But whichever you guys want it to be is fine.
Given that we're unlikely to do a separate ranking for artists (unless there's a huge clamor for it), I would think it's best to just be all-encompassing and make this a snapshot of DTF's overall favorites at this point in time. The personal agony of separating the two is part of the fun, as I alluded to.
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*snip*
here's my list. looking forward to the full game! :metal
HS808, the way it works is you send your list to Reaper via PM, and once he compiles the list, he'll run the countdown. We don't posts lists beforehand. We update our lists when one of our picks is revealed, and then we all share at the end. You might want to edit your post.
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thanks
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thanks
You're welcome. These countdowns are pretty fun.
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*snip*
here's my list. looking forward to the full game! :metal
HS808, the way it works is you send your list to Reaper via PM, and once he compiles the list, he'll run the countdown. We don't posts lists beforehand. We update our lists when one of our picks is revealed, and then we all share at the end. You might want to edit your post.
Yeah, personally I don't care as much about Kev's "no spotlighting" implicit rule in the older versions of these, and don't mind if people give specific examples from time to time, but it would definitely still be best not to actually post the full lists in the thread just yet to give a bit more air of mystery to the results.
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I’m happy to go with the consensus, but my personal vote would be for the list to combine bands/artists.
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I always struggle with styles in these. Jazz and electronic music are arguably two of my top three overall genres, but tend to be packed with a lot more mid-tier favorites than absolute top favorites, so I wind up looking like even more of a metalhead than I actually am.
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So is “bands” literal, or could it include solo acts?
I’m in for sure either way, just need to clarify before I make my list.
Oh, that’s a good point. My list will be reviewed if we are adding solo artists.
Bands and solo artists, anything from David Bowie to Dream Theater.
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I can’t see Dream Theater making anyone’s list.
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I can’t see Dream Theater making anyone’s list.
The fun thing will be finding out how large is the gap between #1 and #2. :lol I'm sure we all have ideas about who the top 5 might be already.
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*deleted post, sent by mistake*
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I can’t see Dream Theater making anyone’s list.
The fun thing will be finding out how large is the gap between #1 and #2. :lol I'm sure we all have ideas about who the top 5 might be already.
If the ‘favourite guitarist’ thread is anything to go by, I’d say it’ll be quite large. Will be interesting to see if they don’t make someone’s list.
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They definitely won't be making some people's lists.
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I can only rank 16 before I am just in a sea of artists and bands where I like some stuff and it wouldn't be genuine to rank a top 25 for me.
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As difficult as that was, I just sorted a list. Sure we can't make it our top 114? ;)
Still not sure about my 23-29ish. Might have to do some list tweaking before submitting.
Are we still gonna do the top bass players? Or did I miss it?
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List sent!
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List send. I would say one of mine is a cert for the final list, and 3 others could appear (maybe 5 at most) - the rest probably not.
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Oh jeez, this will be pretty impossible for me. But I'll give it an honest try. I already know my #1 and #2 though.
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The hardest issue is picking between historically favorite artists and artists that I'm massively into right now - I tried to keep a balance between the two.
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Very hard to do but I'll give it a shot
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The hardest issue is picking between historically favorite artists and artists that I'm massively into right now - I tried to keep a balance between the two.
Mine is massively swayed towards my classic faves. In fact, only 2 bands on my list are bands I’ve discovered in the last 10 years.
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List sent.
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The hardest issue is picking between historically favorite artists and artists that I'm massively into right now - I tried to keep a balance between the two.
Mine is massively swayed towards my classic faves. In fact, only 2 bands on my list are bands I’ve discovered in the last 10 years.
I think this is the only way to do it. Has to be bands that stand the test of time.
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Oh jeez, this will be pretty impossible for me. But I'll give it an honest try. I already know my #1 and #2 though.
One American solo act, and one British 4-piece?
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List send. I would say one of mine is a cert for the final list, and 3 others could appear (maybe 5 at most) - the rest probably not.
There are only two on mine that might have a chance, and then five others that will likely get multiple votes, but probably have no shot at the collective top 25. Most of the others probably won't get votes from anyone other than me and the stray mention here and there.
The hardest issue is picking between historically favorite artists and artists that I'm massively into right now - I tried to keep a balance between the two.
Mine is massively swayed towards my classic faves. In fact, only 2 bands on my list are bands I’ve discovered in the last 10 years.
I think this is the only way to do it. Has to be bands that stand the test of time.
Mine are all artists I've been into half a dozen years or more (generally much longer), but I made one exception for a band I discovered a couple years ago because along with one other artist slightly before and the rediscovery of another, it's had some fairly significant alterations to my listening since then.
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...whereas my list will be a snapshot of where I am today. That'll mean including bands that've only been around for two minutes mixed with those I've been listening to for 35 years.
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I'll go pretty heavy on the nostalgia factor. Bands I've grown up with but don't really listen to that much anymore, but I'll still consider them among my favourites because they meant so much to me once upon a time. Sprinkled in with some newer stuff too.
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Also, before we get started.
Stadler….my love….there will be many classic artists not on the big list that you think should be and that other bands wouldn’t exist without.
It’s going to be okay. Remember, we love you.
If Elvis isn't number....
<Deep breaths>
I'm good. I'm okay.
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Got quite a number lists in already and I see many, many bad choices :lol.
I'll reply to everyone as I check their lists and update on later today
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Two questions:
Dream Theater included?
Also, when it says "bands" and "artists", do we JUST mean bands (like DT) and solo artists (like "Taylor Swift") or do we mean individual musicians as well? Should I put "Ritchie Blackmore" on my list, or "Eddie Van Halen", who have technically not released anything official as solo artists?
I think if we include "bands" we should have "solo artists" as well. I'm not going to parse out "Neal Morse" for example, or "Paul McCartney". They are "acts" in the same sense of the word that bands are.
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I hope for a total shit show. No more, no less.
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I hope for a total shit show. No more, no less.
HAHAHA, me too. 15 lists of 15 resulting in 347 different acts (that's all the lists having DT and Rush, and no one else in common), devolving into who is better: Taylor Swift or Haken.
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Sorry to disappoint, I will have neither Rush, nor Elvis :lol
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I hope for a total shit show. No more, no less.
I'm hoping both Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson make the list, separately. :lol
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I expect this to go a long the lines of the top guitarist list, where maybe 5 of mine will make the final list.
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I'm hoping for hilarity that a certain Dr. Skinny doesn't even make the list because no one can agree on which project of his to include.
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Also, before we get started.
Stadler….my love….there will be many classic artists not on the big list that you think should be and that other bands wouldn’t exist without.
It’s going to be okay. Remember, we love you.
If Elvis isn't number....
<Deep breaths>
I'm good. I'm okay.
If Chuck Berry isn't on the list it's invalid.
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Should I put "Ritchie Blackmore" on my list, or "Eddie Van Halen", who have technically not released anything official as solo artists?
I mean, technically EVH and his brother have released music on the Twister soundtrack, or EVH alone on the film Sacred Sin and probably other things I'm forgetting offhand, not counting guest solos with Michael Jackson and such.
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The hardest issue is picking between historically favorite artists and artists that I'm massively into right now - I tried to keep a balance between the two.
Mine is massively swayed towards my classic faves. In fact, only 2 bands on my list are bands I’ve discovered in the last 10 years.
That's probably how I would've gone a decade ago, but I've had something of a 'new music' renaissance in recent years.
So, rather than fill my list with the music of my youth (oh, it's still there, but...), I've opted to lean a bit more heavily on the music I listen to NOW.
That made for a pretty eclectic list that I was a bit surprised by.
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I hope for a total shit show. No more, no less.
I'm hoping both Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson make the list, separately. :lol
I am doing everything in my power to make sure that does not happen. ;) :) :)
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I hope for a total shit show. No more, no less.
I'm hoping both Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson make the list, separately. :lol
Pretty good chance, I'd say. I personally find his solo work more interesting than PT.
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Should I put "Ritchie Blackmore" on my list, or "Eddie Van Halen", who have technically not released anything official as solo artists?
I mean, technically EVH and his brother have released music on the Twister soundtrack, or EVH alone on the film Sacred Sin and probably other things I'm forgetting offhand, not counting guest solos with Michael Jackson and such.
Yeah, I thought of that when I posted him, but I was hoping most people didn't know that. :). By the way, the Sacred Sin songs (I think there's two of them, maybe three) are pretty friggin' good. I'd listen to an album of that. The videos are weird though; Eddie looks in tough shape.
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I hope for a total shit show. No more, no less.
I'm hoping both Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson make the list, separately. :lol
Pretty good chance, I'd say. I personally find his solo work more interesting than PT.
I like Porcupine Tree waaaay more so I wouldn't mind if SW solo didn't make the list, but it'd be funny.
I have another very obvious solo artist on my list, along with one of their bands (which has no chance in hell of making the list).
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I hope for a total shit show. No more, no less.
I'm hoping both Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson make the list, separately. :lol
Pretty good chance, I'd say. I personally find his solo work more interesting than PT.
I like Porcupine Tree waaaay more so I wouldn't mind if SW solo didn't make the list, but it'd be funny.
I have another very obvious solo artist on my list, along with one of their bands (which has no chance in hell of making the list).
Reverse for me. Although it's possible both made my list :)
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Two questions:
Dream Theater included?
Also, when it says "bands" and "artists", do we JUST mean bands (like DT) and solo artists (like "Taylor Swift") or do we mean individual musicians as well? Should I put "Ritchie Blackmore" on my list, or "Eddie Van Halen", who have technically not released anything official as solo artists?
I think if we include "bands" we should have "solo artists" as well. I'm not going to parse out "Neal Morse" for example, or "Paul McCartney". They are "acts" in the same sense of the word that bands are.
My criteria is that they've released an album or not. You could put Pink Floyd, Roger Waters, David Gilmour, Rick Wright, Syd Barrett on your list if you want. I'm not gonna check to see if they have their own discography.
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I hope for a total shit show. No more, no less.
I'm hoping both Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson make the list, separately. :lol
Pretty good chance, I'd say. I personally find his solo work more interesting than PT.
I like Porcupine Tree waaaay more so I wouldn't mind if SW solo didn't make the list, but it'd be funny.
I have another very obvious solo artist on my list, along with one of their bands (which has no chance in hell of making the list).
It's possible it's one of the same ones I'm wrangling with. But PT/Wilson is exactly the sort of dilemma I'm sure many here would have to face. Include both and leave a different artist off entirely? Put only PT or only Wilson solo and only count the output under those names? Put just one but mentally factor in your liking of the other? I'm sure everyone will answer that question slightly differently, and if they're as conflicted as me, might answer it differently depending upon the artist.
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It's possible it's one of the same ones I'm wrangling with. But PT/Wilson is exactly the sort of dilemma I'm sure many here would have to face. Include both and leave a different artist off entirely? Put only PT or only Wilson solo and only count the output under those names? Put just one but mentally factor in your liking of the other? I'm sure everyone will answer that question slightly different, and they're as conflicted as me, might answer it differently depending upon the artist.
Including Porcupine Tree albums in your ranking of Steven Wilson would feel like cheating to me. They're different entities, even if the same musician is largely driving both ships.
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Sometimes the entities bleed together though. Like with Arjen Anthony Lucassen's projects. Flight of the Migrator and Revel In Time are kind of similar albums, but one is under the Ayreon banner and the other under Star One. Same writer/producer/guitarist/often bassist/keyboardist/backing/sometimes lead vocalist, sometimes the same drummer, sometimes guest musicians go back and forth between the projects. The Source is also practically a Star One album. Some of these just get really messy trying to differentiate them.
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Sometimes the entities bleed together though. Like with Arjen Anthony Lucassen's projects. Flight of the Migrator and Revel In Time are kind of similar albums, but one is under the Ayreon banner and the other under Star One. Same writer/producer/guitarist/often bassist/keyboardist/backing/sometimes lead vocalist, sometimes the same drummer, sometimes guest musicians go back and forth between the projects. The Source is also practically a Star One album. Some of these just get really messy trying to differentiate them.
It can get complicated, yeah. I also don't consider Devin Townsend, The Devin Townsend Band or Devin Townsend Project separate - even if the musicians are different, it's all just Devin Townsend solo material to me, and he's just changed the name a few times. Strapping Young Lad would be a separate band though, since you'd really have to stretch the definition to consider that "solo material".
But hey, unless Kev posts some official rules as to how to handle this stuff, everyone can handle it their own way I guess. :lol
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Yeah on my list I have Devin Townsend and Strapping Young Lad as separate artists, and I include DTP and DTB under Devin Townsend. Casualties of Cool didn’t make my list, but would have also been listed separately.
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Casualties of Cool didn’t make my list, but would have also been listed separately.
Gotta be one amazing album to have a one-album band make your top 25 of all time list. :lol
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Townsend doesn't quite make my own list, but personally if I did I'd probably just put "Devin Townsend" and mentally factor in SYL. The music is heavier and more chaotic, but it's still from the same brain, and with the same musicians who've also appeared on his "solo" material. It's not structurally different enough for me to really distinguish it. But that's the fun of this is that everyone justifies it differently.
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Casualties of Cool didn’t make my list, but would have also been listed separately.
Gotta be one amazing album to have a one-album band make your top 25 of all time list. :lol
That's another interesting point. I have four artists who've only really released maybe the equivalent of about three albums of material, but I really like it, and struggle with how to compare it to artists with larger discographies. And then you get into comparing high points vs. low points vs. consistency, which is an even larger kettle of fish.
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on the fence at participating in this.
I'd have a much easier time making a Top 10-12. :-\
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But hey, unless Kev posts some official rules as to how to handle this stuff, everyone can handle it their own way I guess. :lol
Quick aside: anyone know where he's gone?
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But hey, unless Kev posts some official rules as to how to handle this stuff, everyone can handle it their own way I guess. :lol
Quick aside: anyone know where he's gone?
Oops, I meant Reaper. Force of habit with these threads. :P
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But hey, unless Kev posts some official rules as to how to handle this stuff, everyone can handle it their own way I guess. :lol
Quick aside: anyone know where he's gone?
I think he’s transcended to being a lurker. He’s always watching.
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Casualties of Cool didn’t make my list, but would have also been listed separately.
Gotta be one amazing album to have a one-album band make your top 25 of all time list. :lol
I'm thinking of including Beyond the Bridge :biggrin:
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My first cut has 34... but I truly feel I'm missing some bands.
Best guess, I'll have between 7-10 bands make the list.
Sometimes the entities bleed together though. Like with Arjen Anthony Lucassen's projects. Flight of the Migrator and Revel In Time are kind of similar albums, but one is under the Ayreon banner and the other under Star One. Same writer/producer/guitarist/often bassist/keyboardist/backing/sometimes lead vocalist, sometimes the same drummer, sometimes guest musicians go back and forth between the projects. The Source is also practically a Star One album. Some of these just get really messy trying to differentiate them.
Mentally, I'm treating all of Arjen's projects under one banner - it's not like anyone is voting for Ambeon.
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My first cut has 34... but I truly feel I'm missing some bands.
Best guess, I'll have between 7-10 bands make the list.
Sometimes the entities bleed together though. Like with Arjen Anthony Lucassen's projects. Flight of the Migrator and Revel In Time are kind of similar albums, but one is under the Ayreon banner and the other under Star One. Same writer/producer/guitarist/often bassist/keyboardist/backing/sometimes lead vocalist, sometimes the same drummer, sometimes guest musicians go back and forth between the projects. The Source is also practically a Star One album. Some of these just get really messy trying to differentiate them.
Mentally, I'm treating all of Arjen's projects under one banner - it's not like anyone is voting for Ambeon.
I vote for Ambien.
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Well great I'll be in agony thinking about my top 25 for days.
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I've been diving into my top 25 favorite bands, ranking them is tougher than I thought. My number one pick is a no-brainer, but as I go down the list, it's like choosing between my favorite kids.
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I hope for a total shit show. No more, no less.
I'm hoping both Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson make the list, separately. :lol
Pretty good chance, I'd say. I personally find his solo work more interesting than PT.
I like Porcupine Tree waaaay more so I wouldn't mind if SW solo didn't make the list, but it'd be funny.
Would it be even funnier if No-Man, Storm Corrosion, and Blackfield also made the list? Or would that just be rage inducing at that point? :lol
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Added a list tracker to the OP. I've responded to everyone who has sent a list so if I didn't respond to you please pm me to make sure I got it.
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I'm in, but it's going to take some doing. Might be down to the wire!
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Got the shortlist down to 36 bands. This is brutal.
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Got the shortlist down to 36 bands. This is brutal.
I'm with you...feel like my top-25 are somewhat interchangeable depending on my mood/day.
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Ran 50 something through that ranking generator and I did not agree with a lot of the results.
So this is going to be a lot more difficult than I had hoped. Some of these artists are super hard to even compare, let alone rank. But I guess the difference between, I dunno, 13 and 14 or 20 and 21 is pretty meaningless overall.
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sent in my 25!
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Got the shortlist down to 36 bands. This is brutal.
Agreed; at one point I had to choose between "Boston" and "Journey" and another time I had to choose between "Black Sabbath" and "Deep Purple". For me that's like choosing between this sip of my drink and that sip of my drink.
It's also stark seeing this in an ordered list. I look at my Number Nine ("Number nine... number nine....") and I'm like Wha? There are EIGHT bands I like more than them?" Then I think about re-ordering them and it turns out that yes, on any given day, there ARE eight bands I like more than them.
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Then you look at it again, and the next five bands probably should be higher than that band, and you start to juggle your list again...........
and then you just say 'Eff it, it's only an extra point or two' and then wisely hit 'send'
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I’m hung up on where to place solo artists who are also in bands on my list, because it’s all part of what goes into it, but sometimes the solo music is more important and sometimes the band work is more important for different artists.
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I’m hung up on where to place solo artists who are also in bands on my list, because it’s all part of what goes into it, but sometimes the solo music is more important and sometimes the band work is more important for different artists.
That was easy for me; the hard part is those artists who have a seminal ALBUM versus a consistent body of work. I mean, that first Boston album is perfect in every way. I can sing every note that Brad Delp sung like I wrote it, I know it so well. But the rest of the catalogue? MAYBE side one of Don't Look Back, and Third Stage is pretty good, but... How do you compare that, to say, The Cars, whose every album has something cool to it. Or what about Scorpions, that have a block of records that are untouchable, but a lot of crap before and after? REM, who fell off a (creative) cliff after Bill Berry retired? DLR Van Halen could be TOP FIVE, Van Hagar wouldn't make the list. The Rolling Stones, who from 1966 to 1972 were on another level, but who are spotty at best outside of that range.
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I’m hung up on where to place solo artists who are also in bands on my list, because it’s all part of what goes into it, but sometimes the solo music is more important and sometimes the band work is more important for different artists.
That was easy for me; the hard part is those artists who have a seminal ALBUM versus a consistent body of work. I mean, that first Boston album is perfect in every way. I can sing every note that Brad Delp sung like I wrote it, I know it so well. But the rest of the catalogue? MAYBE side one of Don't Look Back, and Third Stage is pretty good, but... How do you compare that, to say, The Cars, whose every album has something cool to it. Or what about Scorpions, that have a block of records that are untouchable, but a lot of crap before and after? REM, who fell off a (creative) cliff after Bill Berry retired? DLR Van Halen could be TOP FIVE, Van Hagar wouldn't make the list. The Rolling Stones, who from 1966 to 1972 were on another level, but who are spotty at best outside of that range.
If you can sing like Brad Delp, we should start a band! ;D
I'm having the same issue: Jeff Buckley has the ONE album, and I can't live without that album, but, seriously, it's only one album.
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I’m hung up on where to place solo artists who are also in bands on my list, because it’s all part of what goes into it, but sometimes the solo music is more important and sometimes the band work is more important for different artists.
That was easy for me; the hard part is those artists who have a seminal ALBUM versus a consistent body of work. I mean, that first Boston album is perfect in every way. I can sing every note that Brad Delp sung like I wrote it, I know it so well. But the rest of the catalogue? MAYBE side one of Don't Look Back, and Third Stage is pretty good, but... How do you compare that, to say, The Cars, whose every album has something cool to it. Or what about Scorpions, that have a block of records that are untouchable, but a lot of crap before and after? REM, who fell off a (creative) cliff after Bill Berry retired? DLR Van Halen could be TOP FIVE, Van Hagar wouldn't make the list. The Rolling Stones, who from 1966 to 1972 were on another level, but who are spotty at best outside of that range.
If you can sing like Brad Delp, we should start a band! ;D
I'm having the same issue: Jeff Buckley has the ONE album, and I can't live without that album, but, seriously, it's only one album.
I would include Sketches if factoring in Jeff Buckley.
I'm actually thinking of just not voting for 25, but 10-12 per I would be better using pubmeeple or drawing names out of a hat, lol.
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I’m hung up on where to place solo artists who are also in bands on my list, because it’s all part of what goes into it, but sometimes the solo music is more important and sometimes the band work is more important for different artists.
That was easy for me; the hard part is those artists who have a seminal ALBUM versus a consistent body of work. I mean, that first Boston album is perfect in every way. I can sing every note that Brad Delp sung like I wrote it, I know it so well. But the rest of the catalogue? MAYBE side one of Don't Look Back, and Third Stage is pretty good, but... How do you compare that, to say, The Cars, whose every album has something cool to it. Or what about Scorpions, that have a block of records that are untouchable, but a lot of crap before and after? REM, who fell off a (creative) cliff after Bill Berry retired? DLR Van Halen could be TOP FIVE, Van Hagar wouldn't make the list. The Rolling Stones, who from 1966 to 1972 were on another level, but who are spotty at best outside of that range.
If you can sing like Brad Delp, we should start a band! ;D
I'm having the same issue: Jeff Buckley has the ONE album, and I can't live without that album, but, seriously, it's only one album.
HAHAHAHAHA, no, I cannot, alas. I just know all the notes. It sounds like a folding chair with a leg out of joint when I do it. :)
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I’m hung up on where to place solo artists who are also in bands on my list, because it’s all part of what goes into it, but sometimes the solo music is more important and sometimes the band work is more important for different artists.
That was easy for me; the hard part is those artists who have a seminal ALBUM versus a consistent body of work. I mean, that first Boston album is perfect in every way. I can sing every note that Brad Delp sung like I wrote it, I know it so well. But the rest of the catalogue? MAYBE side one of Don't Look Back, and Third Stage is pretty good, but... How do you compare that, to say, The Cars, whose every album has something cool to it. Or what about Scorpions, that have a block of records that are untouchable, but a lot of crap before and after? REM, who fell off a (creative) cliff after Bill Berry retired? DLR Van Halen could be TOP FIVE, Van Hagar wouldn't make the list. The Rolling Stones, who from 1966 to 1972 were on another level, but who are spotty at best outside of that range.
If you can sing like Brad Delp, we should start a band! ;D
I'm having the same issue: Jeff Buckley has the ONE album, and I can't live without that album, but, seriously, it's only one album.
I'm including him, that 1.5 album is too important.
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Sent!
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I’m hung up on where to place solo artists who are also in bands on my list, because it’s all part of what goes into it, but sometimes the solo music is more important and sometimes the band work is more important for different artists.
That was easy for me; the hard part is those artists who have a seminal ALBUM versus a consistent body of work. I mean, that first Boston album is perfect in every way. I can sing every note that Brad Delp sung like I wrote it, I know it so well. But the rest of the catalogue? MAYBE side one of Don't Look Back, and Third Stage is pretty good, but... How do you compare that, to say, The Cars, whose every album has something cool to it. Or what about Scorpions, that have a block of records that are untouchable, but a lot of crap before and after? REM, who fell off a (creative) cliff after Bill Berry retired? DLR Van Halen could be TOP FIVE, Van Hagar wouldn't make the list. The Rolling Stones, who from 1966 to 1972 were on another level, but who are spotty at best outside of that range.
If you can sing like Brad Delp, we should start a band! ;D
I'm having the same issue: Jeff Buckley has the ONE album, and I can't live without that album, but, seriously, it's only one album.
That Jeff Buckley album is pretty damn amazing though
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Interesting stats. The band on my list that has the least output sits at #21 on my list, and they only had 4 studio albums.
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I think some people are overthinking this (but of course, because this is DTF).
Whatever factors you weigh ultimately come down to which acts you like more than others, period. Number of albums aren't relevant, just which one you prefer.
Maybe use factors like that as tiebreakers or something.
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This sort of stuff doesn’t influence my decisions at all, just interesting really.
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I think some people are overthinking this (but of course, because this is DTF).
No shit. Stadler looks like he's becoming the Litho of this thread .... who's already the Stadler of Music-side, so this is like witnessing a double dose of Stadler - arguing with himself no less!
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I want to do this, imagining that maybe two or three bands ends up on the final list.
But, like everyone else, I'm struggling on this one:
Neal Morse vs. Neal Morse Band
And honestly they both might be on my list. And possibly Transatlantic and Flying Colors too.
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I lumped Neal Morse and NMB together
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I think some people are overthinking this (but of course, because this is DTF).
No shit. Stadler looks like he's becoming the Litho of this thread .... who's already the Stadler of Music-side, so this is like witnessing a double dose of Stadler - arguing with himself no less!
:lol
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I think some people are overthinking this (but of course, because this is DTF).
No shit. Stadler looks like he's becoming the Litho of this thread .... who's already the Stadler of Music-side, so this is like witnessing a double dose of Stadler - arguing with himself no less!
Man I sincerely needed the laugh I got from this post.
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I think some people are overthinking this (but of course, because this is DTF).
Whatever factors you weigh ultimately come down to which acts you like more than others, period. Number of albums aren't relevant, just which one you prefer.
I think it kind of is though. If one band's discography is nothing but a single 10/10 album, and another band has 100 albums that you'd rated 9.9/10, I suspect most people are going to prefer the second band.
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I think some people are overthinking this (but of course, because this is DTF).
Whatever factors you weigh ultimately come down to which acts you like more than others, period. Number of albums aren't relevant, just which one you prefer.
I think it kind of is though. If one band's discography is nothing but a single 10/10 album, and another band has 100 albums that you'd rated 9.9/10, I suspect most people are going to prefer the second band.
I knew I’d make you a King Gizzard fan eventually.
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I lumped Neal Morse and NMB together
That's what I did. I have them together in my CD collection and on my iPod, so...
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I think some people are overthinking this (but of course, because this is DTF).
No shit. Stadler looks like he's becoming the Litho of this thread .... who's already the Stadler of Music-side, so this is like witnessing a double dose of Stadler - arguing with himself no less!
To be fair, though (and who would want THAT?) I'm not really overthinking it, just saying that certain decisions are hard. I actually banged out my list relatively quickly, despite forgetting to put Neal and Mother Love Bone on there (I just dropped them in). For me, it's far more interesting than agonizing.
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Alright just replied to a few more lists, we are up to 179 unique artists.
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Sent, that was hard!
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Sent, that was hard!
Yeah, but you get to send three lists!
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Sent, that was hard!
Yeah, but you get to send three lists!
Oh yeah! ;D
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List sent....
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PM Sent to you SwedishGoose.
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Man this is impossible to do :lol
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Man this is impossible to do :lol
Agree but using the link in the OP with my list made it a bit easier at least.
Some of mine won't be on anyone elses lists for sure but who cares, they are my favorites.
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Sent, that was hard!
Yeah, but you get to send three lists!
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Battle of the AI's. I asked Chatgpt and Bard the same question and here are thier lists, I wonder which will get more right...
ChatGPT
Certainly! Dream Theater fans often have a taste for progressive rock and metal music. Here's a list of 25 artists that Dream Theater fans might enjoy:
Rush
Tool
Opeth
Porcupine Tree
Symphony X
Haken
Fates Warning
Queensrÿche
Riverside
Between the Buried and Me
Spock's Beard
Devin Townsend
Ayreon
Pain of Salvation
Liquid Tension Experiment (featuring members of Dream Theater)
Threshold
Transatlantic
Kamelot
Evergrey
Scale the Summit
Circus Maximus
Tesseract
Animals as Leaders
The Contortionist
Leprous
Bards list.
Conversation with Bard
Here is a list of 25 artists that I think the average Dream Theater fan would love:
Haken
Ayreon
Tool
Opeth
Periphery
Porcupine Tree
Symphony X
Mastodon
TesseracT
Gojira
Protest the Hero
Between the Buried and Me
Animals as Leaders
The Aristocrats
Liquid Tension Experiment
Pain of Salvation
Transatlantic
King Crimson
Yes
Rush
Pink Floyd
Genesis
Queen
Jethro Tull
ELP
Kansas
Styx
Journey
Foreigner
Boston
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The first list leans a bit more into later generation bands with similarities to DT, the first has more classic rock and prog bands catering a bit to the demographic of first generation DT fans. My guess is it'll be closer to the second list. I doubt The Contortionist, Animals As Leaders, Circus Maximus, Scale the Summit, and the Aristocrats have much of a chance. A number of obvious snubs on both as well.
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I don't do this to bag on you, but to point out the limitations of AI:
Rush
Tool
Opeth
Porcupine Tree * (Actively dislike)
Symphony X *
Haken *
Fates Warning ** (Just not familiar enough, but nothing seems to grab me)
Queensrÿche
Riverside **
Between the Buried and Me **
Spock's Beard (I crossed it off; I much prefer Neal solo, by a LONG shot)
Devin Townsend
Ayreon
Pain of Salvation *
Liquid Tension Experiment (featuring members of Dream Theater)
Threshold **
Transatlantic
Kamelot **
Evergrey *** (Liked what little I've heard, but haven't been able to go back and really dig in)
Scale the Summit **
Circus Maximus **** (Zero familiarity)
Tesseract **
Animals as Leaders **
The Contortionist ****
Leprous ***
Bards list.
Haken *
Ayreon
Tool
Opeth *
Periphery **
Porcupine Tree *
Symphony X *
Mastodon *
TesseracT **
Gojira **
Protest the Hero **
Between the Buried and Me **
Animals as Leaders **
The Aristocrats ***
Liquid Tension Experiment
Pain of Salvation *
Transatlantic
King Crimson
Yes
Rush
Pink Floyd
Genesis
Queen
Jethro Tull
ELP
Kansas
Styx
Journey
Foreigner
Boston
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I don't do this to bag on you, but to point out the limitations of AI:
No problem. I was only posting it for fun, now the thread traffic had slowed somewhat.
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Porcupine Tree * (Actively dislike)
This always vexes me. How do you "actively dislike" Porcupine Tree (or indeed anything)? Do you march up and down outside your house with a placard reading, "DOWN WITH PORCUPINE TREE!"? Enquiring minds need to know :biggrin:
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he shows up to SW/PT shows in Slayer T-shirts (which would annoy SW)
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he shows up to SW/PT shows in Slayer T-shirts (which would annoy SW)
He then whips his camera out and starts filming steve wilson :lol....
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Porcupine Tree * (Actively dislike)
This always vexes me. How do you "actively dislike" Porcupine Tree (or indeed anything)? Do you march up and down outside your house with a placard reading, "DOWN WITH PORCUPINE TREE!"? Enquiring minds need to know :biggrin:
Well, I dislike Steven Wilson enough to where the Slayer shirt is not beyond possibility! :) :) :) :)
No, I meant that to mean that I am familiar with the work, I've listened to it, and it's not resonated. I've tried, I've approached it with as much of an open mind as I can muster, it's just not working for me. I don't begrudge anyone else what they like, it's music and it's supposed to touch you. If it does, great, if it doesn't, so be it.
Others, I'm just not that familiar with it. That's the only distinction.
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List sent
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he shows up to SW/PT shows in Slayer T-shirts (which would annoy SW)
He then whips his camera out and starts filming steve wilson :lol....
:lol
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Got some more lists and updated the OP. If you're name isn't there or you haven't gotten a pm back from me but submitted a list please send me another pm.
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I committed. I think my list has changed already and I've only submitted it an hour ago. ;)
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I committed. I think my list has changed already and I've only submitted it an hour ago. ;)
Exactly why I don't send early in these sort of things. :)
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List sent...I'll be shocked if I see more than 5 of my selections on this final countdown, but I am here for it just the same :corn
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List sent.
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Mine’s pretty much ready. There are some classic bands who I really like who are probably ending up on the outside looking in, but them’s the breaks.
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Mine’s pretty much ready. There are some classic bands who I really like who are probably ending up on the outside looking in, but them’s the breaks.
I think I alluded to this before; the list is finite, but the number of bands I listen to and like isn't. I mean, my 25 to 50... I've seen every band (except for one) and most multiple times. I think my numbers 29 and 49 are two of my favorite artists of all time.
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Just submitted my list. Really didn't want to overthink things.
My prognostiations:
- I'll have somewhere between 10-12 on the consensus list.
- There will be ~10 on the consensus list of whom I've never heard a single song.
- There will be 2-4 on the consensus list I've never heard of.
- Elvis will not make the top 25.
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Just sent my list after thinking it over for a day or two.
Probably forgot one or two bands in the process.
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Just submitted my list. Really didn't want to overthink things.
My prognostiations:
- I'll have somewhere between 10-12 on the consensus list.
- There will be ~10 on the consensus list of whom I've never heard a single song.
- There will be 2-4 on the consensus list I've never heard of.
- Elvis will not make the top 25.
With how the lists are looking I wouldn't be so sure..
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I think my numbers 29 and 49 are two of my favorite artists of all time.
Did someone else make your list for you? ???
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I think my numbers 29 and 49 are two of my favorite artists of all time.
Did someone else make your list for you? ???
Not sure what you mean? I don't want to give it away, but it will be clear when the lists come out. What I can say is that both 29 and 49 are as solo artists, but their bands are much, MUCH higher, and what I love about them most doesn't always come through in their solo work. Does that make sense?
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I think my numbers 29 and 49 are two of my favorite artists of all time.
Did someone else make your list for you? ???
Not sure what you mean? I don't want to give it away, but it will be clear when the lists come out. What I can say is that both 29 and 49 are as solo artists, but their bands are much, MUCH higher, and what I love about them most doesn't always come through in their solo work. Does that make sense?
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Not who I was talking about, but you have the exact right idea.
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Sent my list last night.
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I think my numbers 29 and 49 are two of my favorite artists of all time.
Did someone else make your list for you? ???
Not sure what you mean? I don't want to give it away, but it will be clear when the lists come out. What I can say is that both 29 and 49 are as solo artists, but their bands are much, MUCH higher, and what I love about them most doesn't always come through in their solo work. Does that make sense?
It made it sound like you were regretting not putting them on the list, as if 26-28 and 30-48 aren't some of your favorite artists of all time, when you could have put those two in at #24 and #25. But I guess what you're saying is that those two are uniquely connected to artists that are higher on the list. It's the same dilemma I've had, where I'm probably just going to pick an artist as representing another project or more as well as the one I'm specifically putting on my list.
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293 unique artists and 20 lists. Looking great so far!
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Gotta get to this before I run out of time lol
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293 unique artists and 20 lists. Looking great so far!
Did you get mine? I don't see it in the OP list and submitted it a while ago.
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Sent
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Sent
Super excited and glad you participated...based on the list of submissions, this is going to be a super eclectic list, and I can't wait to see everyone's thoughts.
One of the best parts about this forum is this: at this stage in my life, I sometimes wonder if I've heard it all, but not a week goes by where I don't stumble upon a previously unknown band/artist/project per another forumer's suggestion.
This place is truly my musical town hall.
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Super excited and glad you participated...based on the list of submissions, this is going to be a super eclectic list, and I can't wait to see everyone's thoughts.
One of the best parts about this forum is this: at this stage in my life, I sometimes wonder if I've heard it all, but not a week goes by where I don't stumble upon a previously unknown band/artist/project per another forumer's suggestion.
This place is truly my musical town hall.
Preach!
It brings me back day after day. It's also a safe place to confess your love to any of your musical desires. There'll be some ribbing but you guarantee someone else loves whatever you love, however obscure.
It's a frigging treasure trove of music and I often wonder how much more limited my music habits would be if I'd never ended up here. My consumption if music just sky rocketed once I signed up.
I'm confident 6 of my picks will make the final list. It'd be much more fun (not that I will) to slate all the absolute shoo ins that will make the final list, that wouldn't come near my top 250 :lol
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I think I got 24 done, and about 15 bands vying for the last spot.
But I'm surely missing someone. Gotta noodle on this over the weekend
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293 unique artists and 20 lists. Looking great so far!
Did you get mine? I don't see it in the OP list and submitted it a while ago.
Got your list!
Updated op with the few new entries I got.
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Sent a list in!
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Sent my list before I can guess second the ranker too much. :)
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I think I got 24 done, and about 15 bands vying for the last spot.
But I'm surely missing someone. Gotta noodle on this over the weekend
Exactly where I'm at too :rollin
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I think I got 24 done, and about 15 bands vying for the last spot.
But I'm surely missing someone. Gotta noodle on this over the weekend
Exactly where I'm at too :rollin
Actually.... turns out I'd assigned the same ranking to two different entries, so problem solved!
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I think I got 24 done, and about 15 bands vying for the last spot.
But I'm surely missing someone. Gotta noodle on this over the weekend
Ohh really? Lucky You I'm still debating over 5 artists for my number 25 LOL...
Will just have to lock one in and send I think ;)
Exactly where I'm at too :rollin
Actually.... turns out I'd assigned the same ranking to two different entries, so problem solved!
Lucky you.
I had just toss coin (of sorts) for my #25 :lol
List sent!
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This list is gonna be great as we've got a strong turn out! What's the highest number of lists we've ever had submitted to one of these?
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Jeez, I've given literally zero thought to this. I'll try and scrap something up by the due date.
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List sent! :tup
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Few more lists added, 366 artists so far!
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List sent. That's as good as it's gonna get.
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Kind of wild how many I've gotten so far. Got another few days to get your lists together.
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What's everyone's preference of cadence for updates once we get this underway? My thoughts was two bands a day until we get to be top 10 where I'd then go one at a time. What's everyone's thoughts?
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With it being only 25 and the fact so many people have submitted their lists I'd personally prefer 1 per day, so we can get some real good discussions going.
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With it being only 25 and the fact so many people have submitted their lists I'd personally prefer 1 per day, so we can get some real good discussions going.
Agreed. One month to do the whole thing seems about right.
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I'm really looking forward to this and personally want to savour it.
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I'll work on my list today and hopefully send it in by tonight. I slapped together a group of about 25-30 bands/artists I like, but as I'm proofreading it, I'm finding myself second guessing some placement. Like others have said up thread, I'll probably have Neal Morse (Solo) lumped together with NMB, and likewise, all of Arjen Anthony Lucassen's projects under his name (Ayreon, Star One, Guilt Machine, etc.).
Of course there's some I want to include but others I feel bad for leaving out. I'd be happy if any of my top 5 (that aren't the two obvious bands) make it into the countdown.
-Marc.
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Been sitting on my list for a few weeks now, so I'll have a final hard think about it tomorrow or the next day and send it.
and likewise, all of Arjen Anthony Lucassen's projects under his name (Ayreon, Star One, Guilt Machine, etc.).
He's probably going to suffer from some vote splitting this way. Be interesting for some of these type of artists to tally them up and see where they "would" have been if the votes were unified.
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Finishing up mine, and haven't read through all the pages of the thread, so I'm just going to ask: Did we reach a consensus on whether Neal Morse and NMB are separate artists or one artist? I would be inclined to just list them together as a single entity, but I don't know if it was further discussed and decided.
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Been sitting on my list for a few weeks now, so I'll have a final hard think about it tomorrow or the next day and send it.
and likewise, all of Arjen Anthony Lucassen's projects under his name (Ayreon, Star One, Guilt Machine, etc.).
He's probably going to suffer from some vote splitting this way. Be interesting for some of these type of artists to tally them up and see where they "would" have been if the votes were unified.
I am on the fence about that, now that you mention it. I originally put down Ayreon on my list, but saw others mention grouping Ayreon under an "Arjen" banner, so I'm not quite sure which way to go. Maybe ReaperKK can make a call about that? Lump all of the Arjen and Ayreon votes into one? I mean, how many of us are going to use two slots for BOTH Ayreon AND Star One when we could just go with Arjen and include both?
Finishing up mine, and haven't read through all the pages of the thread, so I'm just going to ask: Did we reach a consensus on whether Neal Morse and NMB are separate artists or one artist? I would be inclined to just list them together as a single entity, but I don't know if it was further discussed and decided.
Working on my list, I have one slot as "Neal Morse / NMB" as the latter is really just an evolution of Neal's solo work. I think many of us have both groups tied together in their personal music players and music shelves, so it seems to make sense to group them together. I'd say NMB is as close to solo Neal Morse than anything else Neal has done, including Transatlantic and Flying Colors, both of which were born out of collaboration with multiple musicians from the beginning.
-Marc.
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Yeah, it's a real conundrum, and it's hard to think of a universal rule that everyone would agree upon, because each example has slightly different context surrounding it. But just a sample list of artists right off the top of my head that this affects includes: Arjen Anthony Lucassen, Dan Swano, Daniel Tompkins, David Maxim Micic, Devin Townsend, Ihsahn, Kristoffer Rygg, Maynard James Keenan, Neal Morse, Steven Wilson, Toby Driver. Lots more I'm sure if I thought about it more or researched it.
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Finishing up mine, and haven't read through all the pages of the thread, so I'm just going to ask: Did we reach a consensus on whether Neal Morse and NMB are separate artists or one artist? I would be inclined to just list them together as a single entity, but I don't know if it was further discussed and decided.
I've been getting both Neal Morse submissions and Neal Morse Band submissions. If it was me I'd rank Neal Morse Band stuff on it's own, and then the solo stuff separately.
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I'm putting Ayreon for anything Arjen-related as that's his main body of work.
But it's trickier with Steven Wilson as PT and SW-solo work are totally different projects in my book, and by now SW has released enough solo albums to stand out on his own.
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I'm putting Ayreon for anything Arjen-related as that's his main body of work.
This. I mean, is Star One *really* going to rank in anyone's Top 25 in and of itself with only 3 albums? I'd suspect that grouping it together along with Ayreon just pushes the someone's ranking of latter up X number of spots on the list for some. I can see NM and NMB as a conundrum, given the latter has four AMAZING albums. DT/DTP even moreso - ffs, he's got a Ziltoid album under each moniker! Thank god I'm not *that* in to him - despite being my fellow countryman, and doppleganger.
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For some people I could see it. I evaluate more on peaks, so I have a few bands on my list who only have a few albums' worth of material. And if you prefer Star One to Ayreon, I could see putting them instead, on their own merits, or putting them and mentally factoring in other Arjen stuff as well.
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Sent a list. Looking forward to seeing this unfold!
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Being as I'm on vacation, I haven't had any time to devote to this. I may try to scratch something out over the next couple nights. We'll see...
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I'm putting Ayreon for anything Arjen-related as that's his main body of work.
This. I mean, is Star One *really* going to rank in anyone's Top 25 in and of itself with only 3 albums? I'd suspect that grouping it together along with Ayreon just pushes the someone's ranking of latter up X number of spots on the list for some. I can see NM and NMB as a conundrum, given the latter has four AMAZING albums. DT/DTP even moreso - ffs, he's got a Ziltoid album under each moniker! Thank god I'm not *that* in to him - despite being my fellow countryman, and doppleganger.
For me, everything Devin has done, with the exception of SYL and the Vai album, falls under the Devin Townsend moniker. He is the brains behind every other project he's done and written approximately 95% or more of the music within those projects. One could argue that even SYL should be included under this umbrella, since it is basically mostly written by Devin, but it has such a different vibe and feel to it.
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Yep, in terms of Devy I completely agree. I think it comes down to if we want our favourite artists to be represented on the countdown. Like, you could rank Devin Townsend, Devin Townsend Band and Devin Townsend Project separately if you want to, that's your perogative. I think its fair to say that the best chance for Devy to make the list is just under Devin Townsend, so it makes sense to just rank Devin Townsend as an artist.
For me personally, Arjen is a little different. I'm mainly a fan of Ayreon, and haven't checked out all of his side projects and stuff. If I was to rank him, it'd be as Ayreon, as I'm not well versed enough in his other work to say I'm just an Arjen fan. I get that that contradicts what I said about Devin Townsend, but I suppose my point is it depends in the artist and your love for their work.
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So I've come up with a list of 44 bands that I'm going to run through the Ranking Engine. The first head to head ranking is The Dear Hunter vs. Yes....How the hell do I pick between those two...? This is going to be a lot harder than I thought.
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So I've come up with a list of 44 bands that I'm going to run through the Ranking Engine. The first head to head ranking is The Dear Hunter vs. Yes....How the hell do I pick between those two...? This is going to be a lot harder than I thought.
Neither. Great! Now you have 42 bands to pick from. ;D
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So I've come up with a list of 44 bands that I'm going to run through the Ranking Engine. The first head to head ranking is The Dear Hunter vs. Yes....How the hell do I pick between those two...? This is going to be a lot harder than I thought.
Neither. Great! Now you have 42 bands to pick from. ;D
See, you don't need a ranking engine when you got TAC :lol
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:rollin
That's a no brainer though, The Dear Hunter trumps Yes in every possible way.
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So I've come up with a list of 44 bands that I'm going to run through the Ranking Engine. The first head to head ranking is The Dear Hunter vs. Yes....How the hell do I pick between those two...? This is going to be a lot harder than I thought.
Neither. Great! Now you have 42 bands to pick from. ;D
See, you don't need a ranking engine when you got TAC :lol
:lol Perfect. I'll just send my list to Tim and have him make it for me.
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OK, the next one is Journey vs Led Zeppelin..... :facepalm: How do I pick between those?
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OK, the next one is Journey vs Led Zeppelin..... :facepalm: How do I pick between those?
Zeppelin
Next..
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OK, the next one is Journey vs Led Zeppelin..... :facepalm: How do I pick between those?
Zeppelin
Next..
LoL, It may be easy for you to pick, but this is hard....
Next would be an easy one for you, Type O Negative vs Iron Maiden, but for me that's another tough choice.
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Next would be an easy one for you, Type O Negative vs Iron Maiden, but for me that's another tough choice.
Yup.
Down to 41 bands.
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OK, the next one is Journey vs Led Zeppelin..... :facepalm: How do I pick between those?
Zeppelin
Next..
LoL, It may be easy for you to pick, but this is hard....
Next would be an easy one for you, Type O Negative vs Iron Maiden, but for me that's another tough choice.
No, that's not hard at all. It's easily Type O Negative. :D
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OK, now the really tough one, Coheed and Cambria vs The Dear Hunter....
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OK, the next one is Journey vs Led Zeppelin..... :facepalm: How do I pick between those?
Zeppelin
Next..
LoL, It may be easy for you to pick, but this is hard....
Next would be an easy one for you, Type O Negative vs Iron Maiden, but for me that's another tough choice.
No, that's not hard at all. It's easily Type O Negative. :D
Agreed...and Damn! I totally missed Type O :omg:
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Most of these bands never even had a sniff of my Top 25.
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Most of these bands never even had a sniff of my Top 25.
That's because your Top 25 sniffs. ;D
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OK, now the really tough one, Coheed and Cambria vs The Dear Hunter....
OK, now you're asking the real questions. Search your feelings, you know which answer wins out here.
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I sent my list!!!!
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OK, now the really tough one, Coheed and Cambria vs The Dear Hunter....
OK, now you're asking the real questions. Search your feelings, you know which answer wins out here.
Might have to remove these and add some different ones :lol
Next!
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OK, now the really tough one, Coheed and Cambria vs The Dear Hunter....
For what list? :) :) :) :) :)
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Working on my list now, and what it really boiled down for me to is: 1) do I put the older influential bands in? 2) do I put the bands I've been listening for previous 17-18 years in 3) or do I put my current favourite bands in? :lol It seems my listen is going to end up featuring a lot from the second option, and a couple of ones from the first and the third.
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Personally I wind up leaving the original influential bands off if I no longer listen to them. But I can see others taking a different approach.
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List sent!
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OK, the next one is Journey vs Led Zeppelin..... :facepalm: How do I pick between those?
Zeppelin
Next..
LoL, It may be easy for you to pick, but this is hard....
Next would be an easy one for you, Type O Negative vs Iron Maiden, but for me that's another tough choice.
No, that's not hard at all. It's easily Type O Negative. :D
Agreed...and Damn! I totally missed Type O :omg:
It's not to late to resubmit!
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List sent. I had a list of 25, then came up with five more bands and decided to use the list ranked and some spots got swapped while others got kicked out entirely. As a teaser, here's the 30-26 of my list that didn't make the cut.
30 Emerson Lake & Palmer
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
27 The Beatles
26 Queen
These are all bands I've truly enjoyed at different points in my life but as time has gone on, I reach for them less and less, or perhaps have found myself not loving their entire discography. A lot of my considerations for ranking were "how much of this band's output do I still love" and these five, while they have some amazing songs and albums, I'd say I listen to/still enjoy less than half of their albums, especially for bands with a lot of albums like Queen (I like maybe 6 or 7 of their 15) and Marillion (maybe half). The Beatles was a big fave growing up but I have to be in rare moods to listen to them. Same could be said for ELP and KC. Great bands with great music, but I definitely don't listen to them as much as I did 15 years ago.
As for my list, I suspect maybe only 5-8 bands or artists will have any chance of making the countdown. Honestly, I'd love to see if any of my more obscure or less likely submissions got nominated by other members here!
-Marc.
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One of the questions I asked myself was “am I excited for/interested in buying new releases by this band?” There were a couple who stayed on the list despite the answer being “no,” but I found that a pretty good way to knock out some that I was on the fence about.
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List sent. Demographics:
Bands: 21
Solo: 4
UK: 11
US: 10
UK/US hybrid: 1
Canada: 1
Finland: 2
Still active: 15
Inactive (retired, dead or officially disbanded): 10
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The band/solo breakdown is too complicated to suss out.
6-7 inactive
Sweden - 7
UK - 4
US - 4
Netherlands - 3
1 each from Azerbaijan, Canada, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Norway, and Serbia.
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My breakdown:
England - 12
US - 9
Sweden - 2
Scotland - 1
Canada - 1
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Not sure if I'll get a list done.
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Not sure if I'll get a list done.
Same. I could scrounge together a list, but I don't think it would be a fair list because I tend to like a lot of songs but I don't always go deep on a lot of artists. I have a clear top 15, but it gets REAL murky after that.
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I could give you guys another day if that helps, I'll still start it the same day. It's cool seeing so many people send lists so the more the merrier
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I sent my list in quick and I had second guesses immediately. It’s alright, like I still like the bands in my list lol.
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Hey Reaper - based on the thread title, the deadline is 10/20, but then you mention in the opening post that lists are due by the end of day Saturday...I know 10/20 is Friday, but if you do Saturday I might be able to send a list :biggrin:
Don't delay this for me, obviously, but if you were thinking about it anyway... ;)
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I'm good, I am excited to sit back and see the results :)
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Hey Reaper - based on the thread title, the deadline is 10/20, but then you mention in the opening post that lists are due by the end of day Saturday...I know 10/20 is Friday, but if you do Saturday I might be able to send a list :biggrin:
Don't delay this for me, obviously, but if you were thinking about it anyway... ;)
Nope, meant Saturday, changed the thread title to reflect that :)
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Making sure you got mine Reaper, since I'm not on your OP roster updated tonight?
My breakdown:
1 solo artist / 24 groups
4 English
1 Swedish
1 Canadian
10 US west of the Mississippi
9 US east of the Mississippi
18 active / 7 not
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I haven't forgotten you, I don't reply to the list until I put it into my spreadsheet and then I'll pm back. I'll get everything update tomorrow :)
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UK - 8
Sweden - 5
Germany - 3
US - 3
Finland - 2
1 for Netherlands, Norway, Poland and US/UK hybrid.
Ready for this! :metal
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My breakdown:
Stuff I like - 25
Stuff I don't - 0
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My breakdown
21 groups
4 solo
18 active
7 inactive
Great Britain 11
Sweden 6
USA 3
1 each for Multiple countries, Russia, Netherlands, Canada and France
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I could give you guys another day if that helps, I'll still start it the same day. It's cool seeing so many people send lists so the more the merrier
Cheers mate. Don't alter any schedules for us though.
I'll scrub together a quick list. While it might not be thorough, I don't think that will alter any real standings. Will compile a list at the eleventh hour Friday night quickly.
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Hey Reaper - based on the thread title, the deadline is 10/20, but then you mention in the opening post that lists are due by the end of day Saturday...I know 10/20 is Friday, but if you do Saturday I might be able to send a list :biggrin:
Don't delay this for me, obviously, but if you were thinking about it anyway... ;)
Nope, meant Saturday, changed the thread title to reflect that :)
:tup
I’ll try and put a list together
I could give you guys another day if that helps, I'll still start it the same day. It's cool seeing so many people send lists so the more the merrier
Cheers mate. Don't alter any schedules for us though.
I'll scrub together a quick list. While it might not be thorough, I don't think that will alter any real standings. Will compile a list at the eleventh hour Friday night quickly.
Turns out it’s Saturday!
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I could give you guys another day if that helps, I'll still start it the same day. It's cool seeing so many people send lists so the more the merrier
Cheers mate. Don't alter any schedules for us though.
I'll scrub together a quick list. While it might not be thorough, I don't think that will alter any real standings. Will compile a list at the eleventh hour Friday night quickly.
Not seeing many Australian bands included so please get that list done LOL
Speaking of I've already realized missed one homegrown band should've included ugh :facepalm:
US 11
UK 8
AUS 4
FIN 2
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PM's sent and lists updated. I reached out to a few of your for some clarification.
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Not sure if I'll get a list done.
Yes you will!! Yes you WILL!!! :) :) :) :) :) :)
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PM's sent and lists updated. I reached out to a few of your for some clarification.
Before this gets rolling, I just want to take a moment to offer a sincere 'thanks'–very much appreciate you putting this together!
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UK: 16
US: 7
Can: 1
Aus: 1
Band: 23 1/2
Solo: 1 1/2
Dammit! Stop adding categories!! HAHA.
Active: 13
Inactive/Disbanded: 12. (This is sort of inexact)
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It's what the cool kids are doing. Here are my demographics:
Bands: 22
Solo: 3
US: 17
UK: 3
Canada: 1
Finland: 1
Japan: 1
Sweden: 1
Australia: 1
Still active: 20
Inactive (retired, dead or officially disbanded): 5
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What the hell, I'll give it a go...
Bands: 21
Solo: 4
US: 16
UK: 7
Canada: 1
New Zealand: 1
Still Active: 19 (but at least 10 are soon to not be:/)
Inactive: 6
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Bands: 19
Solo: 3
Bands that are pretty much solo projects: 3
US: 10.5
UK: 9.25
Sweden: .25
Iceland: 1
Canada: 3
Australia: 1
Active: 16
Inactive: 8
Up in the air: 1
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Bands: 19
Solo: 3
Bands that are pretty much solo projects: 3
US: 10.5
UK: 9.25
Sweden: .25
Iceland: 1
Canada: 3
Australia: 1
Active: 16
Inactive: 8
Up in the air: 1
I love the Swedish representation :lol
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UK: 3
US - 4
This sort of stuff is amusing. We don't like local music apparently.
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Sent.
The breakdown:
Bands: 20
Solo Artists: 5
US: 7
UK: 11
Australia: 2
France: 1
Denmark: 1
Iceland: 1
Sweden: 1
Canada: 1
Active: 16
Inactive: 9
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UK: 3
US - 4
This sort of stuff is amusing. We don't like local music apparently.
I was quite shocked to find only 3 UK bands made my list. I absolutely do like UK bands, but apparently not enough to crack that top 25.
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Canada - 1
Sweden - 1
Home - 15
US - 8
Bands - 18
Solo - 7
18 of my top 25 are still active although a couple haven't released anything new for over a decade.
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US: 10.5
UK: 9.25
Sweden: .25
Yeah, I have them too. :) And I did put another Swedish band in the ranker, but they didn't make the top 25. I also had one Canadian band that similarly didn't make it. But it's not the Canadian band that everybody else has.
My breakdown:
-Italy: 1
-U.S.: 16
-Netherlands: 2
-Finland: 1
-U.K.: 3
-Germany: 1
-"international": 1
I guess I don't listen to as many bands as most people here either, because I started to feel like after my top 15 or so that the bands I was ranking didn't really belong on a "top __" list and were just bands filling space.
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I guess I don't listen to as many bands as most people here either, because I started to feel like after my top 15 or so that the bands I was ranking didn't really belong on a "top __" list and were just bands filling space.
There's just so much music. Once I get past my first dozen or so, every time a bigger band comes up, I feel like a fraud of a fan, because I know there are numerous people on this forum alone that are bigger fans of them than I am. Sometimes I feel more attached to relatively obscure bands because I don't really know anyone who likes them more than I do. But the standard for being a super-fan of the big names is incredibly high.
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US: 8
Canadian: 2
English: 10
German: 2
Hybrid: 3 (German/English, American/UK/Ireland, American/Canadian)
Band/solo: 24/1 (although one could argue that one of the bands is really just a solo artist)
No longer active: 9 or 10
I guess I don't listen to as many bands as most people here either, because I started to feel like after my top 15 or so that the bands I was ranking didn't really belong on a "top __" list and were just bands filling space.
Same, mostly. I tried to limit it to bands with at least three albums that I really liked. I think I ended up with a list of about 44 that I put into the ranking engine. For me, the top 10 were really clear and, within that, the top 5 were clear, and it was just the ordering of 1-5 and 6-10 that wasn't entirely clear.
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Bands-24
Solo-1
Artists I love - 10
Artist I really like - 15
USA - 19
UK - 2
AUS - 1
CAN - 1
SWE - 1
No longer active 3 or 4. Not confirmed on 1.
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Since I didn’t break this down before, I had 4 solo artists to 21 bands.
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Bands: 19
Solo: 3
Bands that are pretty much solo projects: 3
US: 10.5
UK: 9.25
Sweden: .25
Iceland: 1
Canada: 3
Australia: 1
Active: 16
Inactive: 8
Up in the air: 1
I love the Swedish representation :lol
Whatever band Yngwie is in!!!! :) :) :) :)
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Hum, interesting…
USA - 12
England - 10
Sweden – 2
Canada – 1
24 bands and 1 solo artist. 4 bands are no longer active (but I’m in doubt to consider one of them as done... IMO I think so, since they sell its shows with the name a bit modified). 2 more on canceled farewell tours mode - but one of them intend to do a farewell studio album.
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US - 9
UK - 4
France - 2
Canada - 2
Norway - 2
Germany - 1
Hungary - 1
Poland - 1
Japan - 1
Sweden - 1
Serbia / Croatia - 1
Kinda sad that mine looks to be one of the most diverse ones here, and I only have 1 band outside of Europe and North America. :lol
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Hey Reaper - based on the thread title, the deadline is 10/20, but then you mention in the opening post that lists are due by the end of day Saturday...I know 10/20 is Friday, but if you do Saturday I might be able to send a list :biggrin:
Don't delay this for me, obviously, but if you were thinking about it anyway... ;)
Nope, meant Saturday, changed the thread title to reflect that :)
:tup
I’ll try and put a list together
I could give you guys another day if that helps, I'll still start it the same day. It's cool seeing so many people send lists so the more the merrier
Cheers mate. Don't alter any schedules for us though.
I'll scrub together a quick list. While it might not be thorough, I don't think that will alter any real standings. Will compile a list at the eleventh hour Friday night quickly.
Turns out it’s Saturday!
Yeah it is, but Saturday is out for me. It'll be tonight ir never!
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US - 9
UK - 4
France - 2
Canada - 2
Norway - 2
Germany - 1
Hungary - 1
Poland - 1
Japan - 1
Sweden - 1
Serbia / Croatia - 1
Kinda sad that mine looks to be one of the most diverse ones here, and I only have 1 band outside of Europe and North America. :lol
Can't be many Hungarian bands making the list and this probably the only band I could guess based purely on nationality.
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US - 9
UK - 4
France - 2
Canada - 2
Norway - 2
Germany - 1
Hungary - 1
Poland - 1
Japan - 1
Sweden - 1
Serbia / Croatia - 1
Kinda sad that mine looks to be one of the most diverse ones here, and I only have 1 band outside of Europe and North America. :lol
Can't be many Hungarian bands making the list and this probably the only band I could guess based purely on nationality.
Yeah, pretty obvious that one. Litho can probably guess who the last one is, too. :lol
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Netherlands - 3
Ayreon, Arjen Anthony Lucassen, Star One? :neverusethis:
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1/3.
And yeah, I know exactly who the Hungarian and Serbian/Croatian artists are. :biggrin:
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Strictly speaking four of mine are solo projects, but some of those are more of bands on particular albums, and five of my "bands" are practically solo projects at times.
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I have 6 solo artists, which is a bit more than I expected.
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Let's my breakdown is as follows...
Canada - 2
England - 6
Finland - 1
France - 1
Germany - 1
Norway - 1
Sweden - 1
United States - 12
Apparently I like a lot of US and UK bands. At least I hit the trifecta of Norway, Sweden, and Finland!
I technically only have 1 solo artist. The rest being bands
Active - 20
Inactive - 5
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At least I hit the trifecta of Norway, Sweden, and Finland!
Mine is Scandinavian/Nordic as fuck since I also have Denmark. ;) There's also an Icelandic artist in my top 30 or so that'll just miss the cut.
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us 11
eng 6
ger 3
ire 2
can 1
swe 1
aust 1
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us 11
eng 6
ger 3
ire 2
can 1
swe 1
aust 1
Well, I know one of your Irish bands. Not sure about the other. :corn
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us 11
eng 6
ger 3
ire 2
can 1
swe 1
aust 1
Well, I know one of your Irish bands. Not sure about the other. :corn
They're related.
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At least I hit the trifecta of Norway, Sweden, and Finland!
Mine is Scandinavian/Nordic as fuck since I also have Denmark. ;) There's also an Icelandic artist in my top 30 or so that'll just miss the cut.
The most interesting things I have in my top 44 is Poland and Netherlands.
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The most interesting things I have in my top 44 is Poland and Netherlands.
Riverside is from Poland....hmmmm....... :biggrin:
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It pleases me when I see more than one Canada. Sadly, I suspect those that have 2 Canada using a currently active act, and not the actual 2nd best band out of Canada.
Le sigh...
Mine ...
Canada - 4
Rest of World - 21
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It pleases me when I see more than one Canada. Sadly, I suspect those that have 2 Canada using a currently active act, and not the actual 2nd best band out of Canada.
Le sigh...
Mine ...
Canada - 4
Rest of World - 21
Ah, I forgot Gordon Lightfoot and Weird Al
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ENG - 9
USA - 7
Multi-National - 3
SWE - 2
POL - 1
AUS - 1
NL - 1
CAN - 1
Of the three multi-national bands, only two started out multi-national, while the other has grown to be that way over time (and anyone who knows my music tastes can probably guess who that is). As for solo vs band, only two solo artists made my list explicitly, while the rest are bands.
-Marc.
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It pleases me when I see more than one Canada. Sadly, I suspect those that have 2 Canada using a currently active act, and not the actual 2nd best band out of Canada.
My Canada band is not one of the two or three most people wish it was.
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It pleases me when I see more than one Canada. Sadly, I suspect those that have 2 Canada using a currently active act, and not the actual 2nd best band out of Canada.
Le sigh...
Mine ...
Canada - 4
Rest of World - 21
Ah, I forgot Gordon Lightfoot and Weird Al
Aldo Nova just missed the cut.
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UK - 9
USA - 6
Japan - 3
Norway - 1
Canada - 1
Argentina - 1
Chile - 1
Iceland - 1
Poland - 1
Germany - 1
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I Googled "best Canadian bands" and looked at a few of the lists. If I was doing a top 100 list, I'm very confident none of them would be on it.
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It pleases me when I see more than one Canada. Sadly, I suspect those that have 2 Canada using a currently active act, and not the actual 2nd best band out of Canada.
My Canada band is not one of the two or three most people wish it was.
Not a BNL fan?
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I'm finalizing my list...I'm wrestling with a couple of decisions about the bottom of the 25...completely inconsequential, really, but still pains me to leave a few names off the list.
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I Googled "best Canadian bands" and looked at a few of the lists. If I was doing a top 100 list, I'm very confident none of them would be on it.
No joke, Crash Test Dummies came in at #71 for me.
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I Googled "best Canadian bands" and looked at a few of the lists. If I was doing a top 100 list, I'm very confident none of them would be on it.
I don't want to Rush to any conclusions, but are you sure?
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I Googled "best Canadian bands" and looked at a few of the lists. If I was doing a top 100 list, I'm very confident none of them would be on it.
I don't want to Rush to any conclusions, but are you sure?
It does seem to be a bit of a Mystery, doesn't it?
-Marc.
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I Googled "best Canadian bands" and looked at a few of the lists. If I was doing a top 100 list, I'm very confident none of them would be on it.
I don't want to Rush to any conclusions, but are you sure?
It does seem to be a bit of a Mystery, doesn't it?
-Marc.
In my best KevShmev font ... NO SPOTLIGHTING!!!
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Ok. I’m in. List sent.
I was a bit shocked how far Dream Theater had fallen down my list. But catalog consistency played a big factor in my ranking and more and more I just kept thinking about how spotty the post-8V era has been.
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I Googled "best Canadian bands" and looked at a few of the lists. If I was doing a top 100 list, I'm very confident none of them would be on it.
I don't want to Rush to any conclusions, but are you sure?
It does seem to be a bit of a Mystery, doesn't it?
-Marc.
In my best KevShmev font ... NO SPOTLIGHTING!!!
Was thinking the same. Kev (DTF-in-Peace!) would not be happy :biggrin:
I guess the real shock will be when it's Robin Sparkles who makes the top five from Canada.
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I Googled "best Canadian bands" and looked at a few of the lists. If I was doing a top 100 list, I'm very confident none of them would be on it.
I don't want to Rush to any conclusions, but are you sure?
It does seem to be a bit of a Mystery, doesn't it?
-Marc.
In my best KevShmev font ... NO SPOTLIGHTING!!!
Was thinking the same. Kev (DTF-in-Peace!) would not be happy :biggrin:
I guess the real shock will be when it's Robin Sparkles who makes the top five from Canada.
Personally I went with the Robin Daggers persona.
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Hey Reaper - based on the thread title, the deadline is 10/20, but then you mention in the opening post that lists are due by the end of day Saturday...I know 10/20 is Friday, but if you do Saturday I might be able to send a list :biggrin:
Don't delay this for me, obviously, but if you were thinking about it anyway... ;)
Nope, meant Saturday, changed the thread title to reflect that :)
:tup
I’ll try and put a list together
I could give you guys another day if that helps, I'll still start it the same day. It's cool seeing so many people send lists so the more the merrier
Cheers mate. Don't alter any schedules for us though.
I'll scrub together a quick list. While it might not be thorough, I don't think that will alter any real standings. Will compile a list at the eleventh hour Friday night quickly.
Turns out it’s Saturday!
Yeah it is, but Saturday is out for me. It'll be tonight ir never!
Might take that extra day extension....
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Which is Sunday morning for you!
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Another criterion that I found very interesting to observe is the decades of the first album, as we can get an idea of where our favorite musical environments are.
From my list:
60s: 3 (but... 2 of those bands I like only from their 70s eras on)
70s: 5
80s: 11
90s: 3
00s: 1
10s: 2
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For me, it's...
60s: 2
70s: 0
80s: 9
90s: 6
00s: 7
10s: 1
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Hey Reaper - based on the thread title, the deadline is 10/20, but then you mention in the opening post that lists are due by the end of day Saturday...I know 10/20 is Friday, but if you do Saturday I might be able to send a list :biggrin:
Don't delay this for me, obviously, but if you were thinking about it anyway... ;)
Nope, meant Saturday, changed the thread title to reflect that :)
:tup
I’ll try and put a list together
I could give you guys another day if that helps, I'll still start it the same day. It's cool seeing so many people send lists so the more the merrier
Cheers mate. Don't alter any schedules for us though.
I'll scrub together a quick list. While it might not be thorough, I don't think that will alter any real standings. Will compile a list at the eleventh hour Friday night quickly.
Turns out it’s Saturday!
Yeah it is, but Saturday is out for me. It'll be tonight ir never!
Might take that extra day extension....
That works, just get a list in by Sunday evening EST :)
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Another criterion that I found very interesting to observe is the decades of the first album, as we can get an idea of where our favorite musical environments are.
From my list:
60s: 3 (but... 2 of those bands I like only from their 70s eras on)
70s: 5
80s: 11
90s: 3
00s: 1
10s: 2
I SAID NO MORE CRITERIA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! It's a me problem; I can't resist!
60s: 2
70s: 12
80s: 6
90s: 4
00s: 0
10s: 1
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50s - 1
60s - 0
70s - 0
80s - 2
90s - 10
00s - 10
10s - 2
20s - 0
Very symmetrical.
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Only if you have a band whose first release is in the 2040s.
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Got a couple more lists in. Litho did you send one in?
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So many lists, this gonna be wild!
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List sent!
60s: 7
70s: 12
80s: 1
90s: 3
00s: 2
10s: 0
Yeah, I'm into the older stuff :lol
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Only if you have a band whose first release is in the 2040s.
Already have a spot saved for Caelan's band.
Got a couple more lists in. Litho did you send one in?
Not yet, probably tonight. Pretty sure about the 25 right now, gonna have a final think about the order today.
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60s - 3
70s - 6
80s - 3
90s - 8
00s - 3
10s - 2
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Only if you have a band whose first release is in the 2040s.
Already have a spot saved for Caelan's band.
:lol
Brilliant
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80s: 1
90s: 10
00s: 8
10s: 6
Not surprising. And a lot of those 90s bands are pushing it real close to the 2000s. :lol
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Year of debut album for mine:
60s: 1
70s: 5
80s: 9
90s: 6
00s: 4
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60s: 1
80s: 3
90s: 13
00s: 5
10s: 3
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Year of debut album for mine:
60s: 1
70s: 5
80s: 9
90s: 6
00s: 4
I kind of winged it; the era that most captured me, more or less. I mean, how do you put a band like AC/DC into a decade?
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Year of debut album for mine:
60s: 1
70s: 5
80s: 9
90s: 6
00s: 4
I kind of winged it; the era that most captured me, more or less. I mean, how do you put a band like AC/DC into a decade?
Yeah, I mean some of mine are not known for those specific decades. All of them have been around long enough to span multiple decades so it's kind of a fool's errand to define which decade they are from.
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Breaking it down by year of first album doesn’t seem right in several cases. Take as an example someone like Yes. They started in the 60s, but most people would say they didn’t even become the Yes we know and love until the 70s came.
On another note, I think the most fascinating thing about this countdown will be finding out how many different bands are represented. We’re all only turning in 25 at a time and yet there is undoubtedly going to be hundreds of bands.
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I agree with that. Like I commented, I don't care or even like for the 60s era of 2 of my 3 bands that debuted in the 60s. Sure they changed a lot! But I think as a reference it's valid for most of bands or artists that we clearly still hear, even in their peak years, the roots of their formative years. Even Rush, that was one of most adventurous bands in broaden their style, being totally a 80s band in the 80s, in the last albums returned a lot to their origins. Anyway, just for fun and debate.
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Yeah, there's better ways of determining which eras of music you prefer. RYM provides a decent "ratings by decade" breakdown:
Average Number
3.00 1960s 4 (0.64%)
3.43 1970s 7 (1.12%)
2.95 1980s 10 (1.61%)
3.33 1990s 48 (7.74%)
3.43 2000s 138 (22.2%)
3.32 2010s 282 (45.4%)
3.19 2020s 131 (21.1%)
As you can see, don't listen to much pre-90s stuff. :lol
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I don't think that's really a fair way to look at it though. There's tons of stuff I've checked out in the past few decades mainly because it was new. For something older to even make it to my ears I have to have a good reason to do so, so it's already filtered more heavily for quality. Here's mine for reference.
4.26 1950s 44 (0.55%)
4.09 1960s 138 (1.73%)
4.00 1970s 353 (4.43%)
3.92 1980s 510 (6.40%)
3.95 1990s 1,534 (19.2%)
3.94 2000s 2,564 (32.2%)
3.91 2010s 1,831 (22.9%)
3.87 2020s 987 (12.3%)
It's really not even a decade preference particularly in the first few, it's some very specific subgenres I've rated more from. It's also entirely possible for the average rating of a decade to be higher, but your absolute favorites to be from a different decade.
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If I go by year of first album
60s - 7
70s - 3
80s - 6
90s - 4
00s - 4
10s - 1
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Going by year of their debut for my list:
60s - 3
70s - 2
80s - 2
90s - 8
00s - 7
10s - 3
-Marc.
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It pleases me when I see more than one Canada. Sadly, I suspect those that have 2 Canada using a currently active act, and not the actual 2nd best band out of Canada.
Le sigh...
Neither of my Canadian bands are still active (although one of my hybrid Canadian bands is). One of them had a bassist who also played keyboards but did not sing.
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I just cobbled together a list and sent it. It was more challenging than I expected, once I got past the top 10.
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I just cobbled together a list and sent it. It was more challenging than I expected, once I got past the top 10.
I'm interested to see what your list looks like.
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I just cobbled together a list and sent it. It was more challenging than I expected, once I got past the top 10.
I'm interested to see what your list looks like.
:tup
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Just sent in my list. Surprisingly, the artists and ordering haven't changed from my first draft a few weeks ago. They probably will the day after submissions close, lol. Now to work on my 26-50 for honorable mentions. That's proving much more difficult than the top 25, it turns out.
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excited to see the results!! :metal
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list sent, hopefully not too late! Now I had to rush (no pun intended) to put my final list together. But I somehow regretted not taking part at least in the guitarist and PF ranking when following the results, so ...
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list sent, hopefully not too late! Now I had to rush (no pun intended) to put my final list together. But I somehow regretted not taking part at least in the guitarist and PF ranking when following the results, so ...
Still like 18 hours to cut off, right?
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list sent, hopefully not too late! Now I had to rush (no pun intended) to put my final list together. But I somehow regretted not taking part at least in the guitarist and PF ranking when following the results, so ...
Still like 18 hours to cut off, right?
That sounds about right.
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Alright, I better do this now.
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Oh gosh…
70s - 6
80s - 10
90s - 6
00s - 2
10s - 1
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Sent.
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Sent.
Wolfking works best under pressure. 15 days of procrastinating; gets the job done in 15 minutes.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/gKfQIlSt88xmmM02bJ/200w.gif?cid=82a1493bv69qonlh80hk7or1iahyfkditc56n2pybmetnjnr&ep=v1_gifs_related&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
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Sent.
Wolfking works best under pressure. 15 days of procrastinating; gets the job done in 15 minutes.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/gKfQIlSt88xmmM02bJ/200w.gif?cid=82a1493bv69qonlh80hk7or1iahyfkditc56n2pybmetnjnr&ep=v1_gifs_related&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
:lol
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Sacul works best under pressure. 15 days of procrastinating; gets the job done in 15 minutes.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/gKfQIlSt88xmmM02bJ/200w.gif?cid=82a1493bv69qonlh80hk7or1iahyfkditc56n2pybmetnjnr&ep=v1_gifs_related&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
FTFM.
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This shouldn't be so hard surely. I could probably have a good pop at naming top 5 bands for most of you, myself :lol
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Ok, list sent!
Distribution by country:
US: 8
UK: 6
Sweden: 6
Finland: 2
Canada: 1
Germany: 1
The Netherlands: 1
Distribution by year of first album's release:
1970s: 3
1980s: 8
1990s: 12
2000s: 1
2010s: 1
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Distribution by year of first album's release:
1970s: 3
1980s: 8
1990s: 12
2000s: 1
2010s: 1
This is an interesting stat...
60's......2
70's.....12
80's.....9
90's.....1
00's.....1
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This shouldn't be so hard surely. I could probably have a good pop at naming top 5 bands for most of you, myself :lol
Didn't you actually do something like that, not long ago? :biggrin:
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Yea, here's an update on Sacul's
Argentinian prog band #1
Argentinian prog band #2
Argentinian prog band #3
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard
Argentinian prog band #4
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Shit, I have to get this in today, don't I?
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If you want Japan to be represented, then yes, you do.
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If you want Japan to be represented, then yes, you do.
:lol
Yes you do! Although you can sneak one in tomorrow if you need the time.
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How many individual bands are we up to now Reap?
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If you want Japan to be represented, then yes, you do.
:rollin
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How many individual bands are we up to now Reap?
I have 4 lists to enter in still but currently sitting at 415 artists.
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How many individual bands are we up to now Reap?
I have 4 lists to enter in still but currently sitting at 415 artists.
That's pretty crazy.
I'm sure you have quite a spreadsheet going there :biggrin:
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My prediction (for my list)
6 - locked (or at least, they better be)
3 - 50/50 chance
4 - one of 'em could possibly sneak in - but more likely in the Top 50
9 - snowball's chance in hell
3 - I'm probably the only one who voted for them
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I have maybe 10 on my list that *might* make it to the top 25, but I’d guess 5 or 6 at most.
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I have 4 on the list that I would think are a lock.
Past that...another 4/5 that have a good chance of showing up.
Not much more after that, I don't think. Not necessarily "obscure" bands. Just not likely to have a critical mass of votes.
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This shouldn't be so hard surely. I could probably have a good pop at naming top 5 bands for most of you, myself :lol
*doubt* :corn
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This shouldn't be so hard surely. I could probably have a good pop at naming top 5 bands for most of you, myself :lol
The top 5 was easy. It was the other 20 that felt nearly impossible. And honestly, anything between 11 and 60 is going to fluctuate drastically depending on mood. I think I submitted 2 or 3 bands that made the top 25 right now, but might only be in the top 40 in two years.
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With so many different bands represented, I feel like the countdown should start at 50. We could even do them 3-5 at a time each day and then slow it down to 1 per day once we hit 25. I just want to see if anything above 25 got more than 1 or 2 entries from submissions.
-Marc.
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With so many different bands represented, I feel like the countdown should start at 50. We could even do them 3-5 at a time each day and then slow it down to 1 per day once we hit 25. I just want to see if anything above 25 got more than 1 or 2 entries from submissions.
-Marc.
Oh great, so now I have to rank another 25 bands that honestly aren't all that important.
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With so many different bands represented, I feel like the countdown should start at 50. We could even do them 3-5 at a time each day and then slow it down to 1 per day once we hit 25. I just want to see if anything above 25 got more than 1 or 2 entries from submissions.
-Marc.
Oh great, so now I have to rank another 25 bands that honestly aren't all that important.
No, he's just saying take the overall ranking based on our top 25 lists and run down the top 50 from that list. Which is what I've thought we should have done in the past with these open ended top whatever lists like singers and guitarists.
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With so many different bands represented, I feel like the countdown should start at 50. We could even do them 3-5 at a time each day and then slow it down to 1 per day once we hit 25. I just want to see if anything above 25 got more than 1 or 2 entries from submissions.
-Marc.
Oh great, so now I have to rank another 25 bands that honestly aren't all that important.
No, he's just saying take the overall ranking based on our top 25 lists and run down the top 50 from that list. Which is what I've thought we should have done in the past with these open ended top whatever lists like singers and guitarists.
This. With over 400 unique entries, seeing the top 25 is so little data and I'm sure most of us would like to see if any of our obscure but very personal favorites even make the Top 50.
-Marc.
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Good idea, I support it!
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With so many different bands represented, I feel like the countdown should start at 50. We could even do them 3-5 at a time each day and then slow it down to 1 per day once we hit 25. I just want to see if anything above 25 got more than 1 or 2 entries from submissions.
-Marc.
Oh great, so now I have to rank another 25 bands that honestly aren't all that important.
No, he's just saying take the overall ranking based on our top 25 lists and run down the top 50 from that list. Which is what I've thought we should have done in the past with these open ended top whatever lists like singers and guitarists.
Oh...I get it. :lol
Yeah, that works!
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Love that idea....
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I'm down for doing a top 50, I can do two a day until we get to 25.
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I'm down for doing a top 50, I can do two a day until we get to 25.
Sweet! Thanks! I really appreciate that. I think seeing 50 gives everyone a better chance at seeing their favorites appear, and probably makes for a better look at DTF's favorite bands as a whole. I imagine the top 25 are all going to be mostly prog, metal, or prog metal, but I'd love to see some more interesting bands pop up too, even if they're not *my* favorites.
-Marc
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Was gonna add only if it's not too much extra work for Reaper. If you even just wanted to dump 50-26 at once that would be fine with me. We usually saw it at the end anyway when Kev ran them. I suppose it also could spoil the suspense for some people, but at least then those artists made the "list" if we do 50.
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I'm down for doing a top 50, I can do two a day until we get to 25.
Sweet! Thanks! I really appreciate that. I think seeing 50 gives everyone a better chance at seeing their favorites appear, and probably makes for a better look at DTF's favorite bands as a whole. I imagine the top 25 are all going to be mostly prog, metal, or prog metal, but I'd love to see some more interesting bands pop up too, even if they're not *my* favorites.
-Marc
With a couple of obvious exceptions, I'm not expecting much metal in the Top 25.
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I'm down for doing a top 50, I can do two a day until we get to 25.
Sweet! Thanks! I really appreciate that. I think seeing 50 gives everyone a better chance at seeing their favorites appear, and probably makes for a better look at DTF's favorite bands as a whole. I imagine the top 25 are all going to be mostly prog, metal, or prog metal, but I'd love to see some more interesting bands pop up too, even if they're not *my* favorites.
-Marc
With a couple of obvious exceptions, I'm not expecting much metal in the Top 25.
I'd love to he surprised! It'll be more exciting if we see some contenders pop up in the 26-50 range, leaving us stumped about the rest of the list.
-Marc.
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I think this is a fantastic idea. I mean, at 400+ submissions, a Top-50 still doesn't even scratch the Top 15% of bands for the forum. Revealing only the Top-25 would be even more limiting, so the Top 50 makes for more inclusion and discussion. It's not like there is a lineup of Top XX threads waiting to be done.
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I think the Top 50 thing is a great idea! I just skimmed through the list and I feel like there could be good conversation for the 26-50 group as most bands will be at least familiar to forum members. Additionally some people will see their number 1 pick in that bunch so it'll give them a shot to talk about the artist.
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This shouldn't be so hard surely. I could probably have a good pop at naming top 5 bands for most of you, myself :lol
*doubt* :corn
Well I'm pretty confident Marillion and Moonsorrow would be in there, possibly Enslaved too. I'm sure I could guess the others with more than 30 seconds thought.
With so many different bands represented, I feel like the countdown should start at 50. We could even do them 3-5 at a time each day and then slow it down to 1 per day once we hit 25. I just want to see if anything above 25 got more than 1 or 2 entries from submissions.
-Marc.
I am FULLY on board with this.
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This shouldn't be so hard surely. I could probably have a good pop at naming top 5 bands for most of you, myself :lol
*doubt* :corn
Well I'm pretty confident Marillion and Moonsorrow would be in there, possibly Enslaved too. I'm sure I could guess the others with more than 30 seconds thought.
and Rush
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My honorable mentions might wind up making mine a top 60. 26-30 were difficult cuts from the top 25 and all feel a slight tier up. But 31-61 are pretty much interchangeable. Gonna be hard enough to figure out which one of them has to go. Then there's an additional 20 or so I feel bad leaving off, but it's a case of one amazing album and then some really good ones, or they just have an album or two in their discography, and that's not quite enough.
I am FULLY on board with this.
Me too.
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Yea, here's an update on Sacul's
Argentinian prog band #1
Argentinian prog band #2
Argentinian prog band #3
Nine Inch Nails
Argentinian prog band #4
Damn right :metal
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Alright countdown starts tomorrow! If you don't see your name on the OP please let me know :)
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That's gotta be a record number of participants for a countdown on DTF. I like it!
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Buzzing
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That's gotta be a record number of participants for a countdown on DTF. I like it!
DTF representin!!!
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That's gotta be a record number of participants for a countdown on DTF. I like it!
DTF representin!!!
46 Lists!
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How many unique artists?
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417, possibly 416 once I make a decision about a particular list.
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Eh, got way too much shit going on to hammer a list out... Needless to say my top 5 would've been...
5- Marillion
4- Yes
3- Dream Theater
2- The Who
1- IQ
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We all know who the remaining 20 are.
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We all know who the remaining 20 are.
Keep in mind, I had a good 40+ years of music listening before I even knew J-metal was a thing. I'd say maybe 3 bands, Nemophila, Band Maid, and Gacharic Spin would've made my list. If I ran out of bands Asterism and Hanabie might have cracked it as well, but we got the whole of the 70s and 80s hard rock to weed out too. That's a shit ton of bands to pick from.
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Really flat out at the moment so didn't have time to participate. Will be following though. I started to do a list but it was so hard! After the top 10 I felt I had to get 40 bands into the next 15...Well done to everyone who is taking part.
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Really flat out at the moment so didn't have time to participate. Will be following though. I started to do a list but it was so hard! After the top 10 I felt I had to get 40 bands into the next 15...Well done to everyone who is taking part.
That's kind of where I was at...I can rattle of 10-15 easily, it's the 50 that are fighting for the remaining spots that fuck me up.
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Really flat out at the moment so didn't have time to participate. Will be following though. I started to do a list but it was so hard! After the top 10 I felt I had to get 40 bands into the next 15...Well done to everyone who is taking part.
Yeah, I think most of us had this experience. Just have to go with your gut in the moment. There is one band I was thinking about just now that I thought “I’m not sure why I didn’t make room for them,” but that’s just the nature of picking a limited number. In reality, 15-40 or so are all probably about equal and could be ranked in any order on any given day.
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Really flat out at the moment so didn't have time to participate. Will be following though. I started to do a list but it was so hard! After the top 10 I felt I had to get 40 bands into the next 15...Well done to everyone who is taking part.
Yeah, I think most of us had this experience. Just have to go with your gut in the moment. There is one band I was thinking about just now that I thought “I’m not sure why I didn’t make room for them,” but that’s just the nature of picking a limited number. In reality, 15-40 or so are all probably about equal and could be ranked in any order on any given day.
Yes that is all true but I kind of felt like I was picking my favourite child and it all just got too much for me! Yes, I know I should have just submitted a list and went with my gut in the moment but then the regrets about who is left out..
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Another more mathy way to do something like this would be to give everyone 325 points (for example based on the number each list has now, but it could be a smaller number) and they can allocate them however they want towards as many bands as they want as long as it adds up to 325 (probably need to cap the most you could give any one band).
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I wonder how differently results would turn out if ranking was deweighted. Right now the order is much more important than inclusion. 24 separate people could consider a band one of their 25 all-time favorites, but if they all rank the artist #25 the artist will only get 24 points. That can be overridden by a single person giving a different band a #1 ranking, which gives 25 points. Whereas if it was just based on making your list it'd be a tally of 24 to 1.
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That's a good point...it'd be interesting, after this is done, to see what the ranking based on n. of inclusions looks like...
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:corn
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Listening to my number 1 now.... to bad it's not going to make it
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Alright lets get this thing started with a tie and two artists whose music I don't know that well:
50t. Miles Davis
Rate Your Music Profile! (https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/miles-davis)
Spotify Profile (https://open.spotify.com/artist/0kbYTNQb4Pb1rPbbaF0pT4?si=ZKEYXs2ZQYWOAXcBfK-EOw)
Monthly Spotify Streams: 2.6M
Highest Finish: 1 (WilliamMunny)
Number of Lists appeared on: 4 (romdrums, Fonzie, TheHoveringSojourn88, WilliamMunny)
I've been meaning to check out Miles Davis for years and never really checked out his work outside of Kind Of Blue.
50t. Symphony X
Rate Your Music Profile! (https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/symphony_x)
Spotify Profile (https://open.spotify.com/artist/4MnZkh4dpNmTMPxkl4Ev5L?si=uyy9fVqBT72XGhiZqVDf9g)
Monthly Spotify Streams: 151,100
Highest Finish: 8 (Dream Team, jingle.boy)
Number of Lists appeared on: 5 (Dream Team, King Puppies and the Acid Guppies, CharlesPL, bosk1, jingle.boy)
Unlike Miles Davis I have tried with Symphony X and it's just not for more, that was many moons ago so maybe I should give it another go.
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Odd that I’m one of SX’s highest rafters, but they didn’t appear on my list. :P ;)
Love everything about the band after the first two albums. Diversity in their sound over time, and Allen is one of my top-5 fave vocalists (edit... apparently ranked him #1 in the Fave Vocalist countdown) . Odyssey is a top 20 song of all time, and Underworld was nearly my album of the year in 2015. Shame they haven’t done much in a few years. I’ve seen them twice live in small clubs, and they fucking smoked.
Glad we expanded the reveal to a top 50.
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Miles Davis definitely wasn't on my bingocard! I've only ever heard Bitches Brew and Kind of Blue. They are fine but I'd need to dedicate a lot more time to him before ever making my top 1000 artists.
I've never really listened to Symphony X to be honest.
Can the highest finisher for each artist post a song or two to check out, for those who aren't familiar with each band, as we go through this?
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Of Sins and Shadows
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Miles Davies - huge respect for him but haven't rally listened that much to him
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Seeing Miles Davis show up tied at 50 is the kind of unexpected diversity I was looking forward to seeing by starting at 50! Definitely did not see that coming, but it's cool that he appeared on four lists!
As for Symphony X, I kind of expected them to be a bit higher/appear on more than four lists, but I'm glad they eeked in at the bottom. I personally did not rank them but I'm sure they would've been somewhere in my 26-50. I haven't listened to them in awhile and their pace at releasing new albums probably doesn't help that. I still love V and The Odyssey though!
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Well, I'm happy we opted for the 'Top 50,' otherwise I suspect I'd have like 2 artists from my list appear here ;D
That said, since I obviously hold Miles Davis in the highest regard, allow me to expound upon my pick...
For me, the biggest criteria that came into play when I was making my list was 'gut.' I didn't spend too much time deliberating, because (as many of you pointed out), my thoughts tend to ebb and flow from day to day, mood to mood.
That is, except for my top 10 or so.
Like all of us, I listen to music for different reasons, and depending on the artist, what I get can vary from simple nostalgia-tinged vibes to a full-blown emotional catharsis.
Much of the music I listen to falls into either one or other...old bands typically feel like a conversation with an old friend, and newer (or previously undiscovered) bands feel like an exciting first-date.
It's rare to get both from a single artist each and every time....but when I throw on a Miles Davis release, regardless of which era, it feels like both (revisiting an old-friend and bumping into a complete stranger).
The other thing that helps here is that even with Miles being gone over thirty years now, there's still the excitement of undiscovered country. Between live and posthumous releases, I suspect I will be checking out 'new' releases until I'm in the ground.
I've done several complete listen-thrus of his sixty or so full-length albums over the years, and even after listing to In a Silent Way for the ten-thousandth time, I still feel like I'm discovering that record.
I'll forgo any further analysis, otherwise I'll be typing for the rest of my shift :rollin
That said, if anyone reading this hasn't already heard it, I highly recommend checking out A Tribute to Jack Johnson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up9yWDl0jBc.
Bass (Fender) – Michael Henderson
Drums – Billy Cobham
Guitar – John McLaughlin
Keyboards – Herbie Hancock
Saxophone – Steve Grossman
Trumpet – Miles Davis
Recorded: February 18 and April 7, 1970
Studio: 30th Street Studio, New York City
This gem of a release fell right in the beginning of his 'fusion' years, and it's a good indicator of the direction a Miles/Hendrix collaboration might have gone.
It's a guitar-driven masterpiece that just might resonate with some of you :metal
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I've never bothered with jazz music, so I haven't listened to Miles Davis. But it's good to see some diversity on the list.
I enjoy some Symphony X from time to time, but I always go for the earlier stuff when they were more neo-classical (Diving Wings, Damnation Game, and V). They wouldn't make my Top 50 though.
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I've never bothered with jazz music, so I haven't listened to Miles Davis. But it's good to see some diversity on the list.
I enjoy some Symphony X from time to time, but I always go for the earlier stuff when they were more neo-classical (Diving Wings, Damnation Game, and V). They wouldn't make my Top 50 though.
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Miles Davis is one of those artists I just haven’t gotten to yet but expect I will eventually. Symphony X less so!
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Awesome right up William, I'll give that tribute a spin today.
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I should have submitted my list, but I was busy. I'm still following, though. Cool to see Symphony X right off the bat. :tup
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Wow I didn't even consider Symphony X for my list, whereas they probably would have been top 5 in the 2000s, even with me not liking Paradise Lost much. I rarely think about them anymore. I need to at least listen to V again soon and re-experience it.
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Listening to my number 1 now.... to bad it's not going to make it
Got a sneaky feeling that if I submitted a list, they would've.
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Listening to my number 1 now.... to bad it's not going to make it
Got a sneaky feeling that if I submitted a list, they would've.
They are high up but not that high....
I'm pretty sure I will be the only one with them on my list.
Don't think anyone else here listens to them or have even heard of them.
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Well I've added Odyssey and A Tribute to Jack Johnson to my daily rotation playlists so I'll give them a spin later.
I like most of what I've heard that features John McLaughlin, and I've got a few Mahavishnu Orchestra albums, as my Dad was a fan. Looking forward to it.
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Miles was certainly a significant part of my journey of getting into jazz like he has been for so many others. More than almost anyone else he pioneered many of the stylistic shifts the genre went through over the years. His iconic classics are certainly all worth hearing, though I find that like many artists, sometimes his best work isn't quite as well known. I'm particularly fond of Milestones and E.S.P. Although ultimately, there are other jazz artists that speak to me more, so he's not on my list.
Symphony X was also an important part of my exploration of the prog/power world, and has aged better than some, mainly due to Russ's continued excellence. At this point I'd say I probably underrate them, and am way overdue for a binge.
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Miles was certainly a significant part of my journey of getting into jazz like he has been for so many others. More than almost anyone else he pioneered many of the stylistic shifts the genre went through over the years. His iconic classics are certainly all worth hearing, though I find that like many artists, sometimes his best work isn't quite as well known. I'm particularly fond of Milestones and E.S.P. Although ultimately, there are other jazz artists that speak to me more, so he's not on my list.
Symphony X was also an important part of my exploration of the prog/power world, and has aged better than some, mainly due to Russ's continued excellence. At this point I'd say I probably underrate them, and am way overdue for a binge.
Yeah, if I had to rank the Miles catalog, I'd definitely lose some sleep. Each era feels so distinct and integral.
I definitely could've (and probably should have) added way more Jazz to my list.
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Nothing but respect for Miles Davis, even though I'm not exactly familiar with his music. I'll try to spin that Tribute later.
Symphony X, I'm a pretty casual fan. I enjoy a song here and there, but also not too big on the albums. I do like Russell Allen on Ayreon so in theory their music should work for me, but for some reason a lot of it falls a bit flat these days. I did expect them to be a bit higher though, maybe somewhere around the 25th-30th spot.
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50t. Miles Davis
50t. Symphony X
AFAIK, I've never heard anything by either of these (although it's possible I've heard something by Davis and didn't know it). Not a jazz guy. The first time I heard of Symphony X was on the MP forums when the singer from that band did a project with MP. Didn't like his voice from what I heard.
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50t. Miles Davis
50t. Symphony X
AFAIK, I've never heard anything by either of these (although it's possible I've heard something by Davis and didn't know it). Not a jazz guy. The first time I heard of Symphony X was on the MP forums when the singer from that band did a project with MP. Didn't like his voice from what I heard.
That would be Adrenaline Mob and that is not indicative of what Russell Allen really sounds like with Symphony X. Perhaps you wouldn't like them, but I'd encourage anyone not familiar with the band to give The Divine Wings of Tragedy and/or The Odyssey a listen.
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At any rate, I had Symphony X at #23 on my list. They were one of the first Prog Metal bands I found after discovering Dream Theater. They were hugely influential in my music taste development in the early 2000's. My favorite albums being Divine Wings of Tragedy and The Odyssey like I mentioned in the post above.
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Added jingle to the list count, I also added the RYM and Spotify profile for both artists, I'll do that for the rest of the countdown as well :)
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Symphony X would have made my top 50.
Not into jazz at all so everything I know about Miles Davis is his name.
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Family issues prevented me from completing a list on time.
I love Miles, but there are other jazz artists I love more. He may have made my Top 50, but almost definitely not my Top 25.
Never liked Symphony X.
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Never liked Symphony X.
I'm not sure we can be friends anymore.
I think we can. You don't like jazz, and I still love you.
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Never liked Symphony X.
I'm not sure we can be friends anymore.
I think we can. You don't like jazz, and I still love you.
Never said I don't like it. But yes, I'm over your dislike of S-X already.
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Symphony X wasn't even considered, and Russell Allan is neck and neck with Steven Wilson as one of the more overrated people on this forum. I like his work with Ayreon, but that's the extent of it.
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Of Sins and Shadows
Accolade II
Kiss of Fire
It's been a while since I've listened to SX so I gave The Odyssey a spin and I remembered what I didn't like about SX and that was the terrible orchestral keyboard patches.
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Symphony X wasn't even considered, and Russell Allan is neck and neck with Steven Wilson as one of the more overrated people on this forum. I like his work with Ayreon, but that's the extent of it.
Now I want to know which forum users are actually Russell Allan and Steven Wilson. :-)
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Listening to The Odyssey now and I'm surprised no one has sent this in a roulette before. Parts of this sounds lime it could be a Black Mages song (aka prog metal video game music), which is right up my street.
Not sure I love it on the whole, but it's good enough to add to a playlist to revisit in the future.
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Listening to The Odyssey now and I'm surprised no one has sent this in a roulette before.
They would have been all the rage if roulettes had been a thing in 2003. At this point I just assume anyone who doesn't already like them probably has a reason not to, like....
Generally when I’ve tried to listen to Symphony X, I stop once the singing starts. Very cheesy stuff.
It's not the fauxchestration that hits your cheese limit? I''ve honestly never even thought about his singing being cheesy, especially compared to so many other prog bands.
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Listening to The Odyssey now and I'm surprised no one has sent this in a roulette before.
They would have been all the rage if roulettes had been a thing in 2003. At this point I just assume anyone who doesn't already like them probably has a reason not to, like....
Generally when I’ve tried to listen to Symphony X, I stop once the singing starts. Very cheesy stuff.
It's not the fauxchestration that hits your cheese limit? I''ve honestly never even thought about his singing being cheesy, especially compared to so many other prog bands.
That too I guess. Was thinking of “Prelude” from V, with the opera type choir.
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I'm a SX fan but they are nowhere near a top 25 band for me.
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Symphony X are not a favorite band of mine. But I did have the opportunity to see them live after the Paradise Lost tour. They were mind-blowing in every way. One of the best shows I've ever been to.
I love Miles Davis and had I remembered to submit my list it would have pushed him above in the rankings. Easily a top 10 or top 15 artists of all time for me. He covered so much ground during his life that no matter what kind of mood you're in there is something there for you. I sometimes joke that I start each week feeling like a Birth of the Cool, and by the time Thursday or Friday roll around I am feeling more like Bitches Brew or On the Corner.
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If you've got 24 minutes to spare, go with the Odyssey. If not, here's a few with differing styles:
Of Sins and Shadows
Accolade II
Kiss of Fire
Awakenings
When all is Lost
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Generally when I’ve tried to listen to Symphony X, I stop once the singing starts. Very cheesy stuff.
Whatever “cheesy” is, Allen is the exact opposite. But of course you haven’t listened to The Odyssey, and won’t.
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Never could get into SX, and I know Miles Davis is highly regarded, but I don't think I have heard anything by him.
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Glad to see Miles Davis make the list. I’ve been a fan for a long time, and I don’t think I’ve even scratched the surface of his catalog. Playing his music is always so much fun, and when I was gigging regularly, we always used to see how we could take those tunes in different directions. His second quintet, which had Herbie Hancock on piano, Wayne Shorter on sax, Ron Carter on bass, and Tony Williams on drums, was absolute fire, and most of my Miles Davis collection is from this era. Every era of his is worth checking out, though.
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50t. Miles Davis
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AFAIK, I've never heard anything by either of these (although it's possible I've heard something by Davis and didn't know it). Not a jazz guy. The first time I heard of Symphony X was on the MP forums when the singer from that band did a project with MP. Didn't like his voice from what I heard.
That would be Adrenaline Mob and that is not indicative of what Russell Allen really sounds like with Symphony X. Perhaps you wouldn't like them, but I'd encourage anyone not familiar with the band to give The Divine Wings of Tragedy and/or The Odyssey a listen.
Listening to The Divine Wings of Tragedy. The choral intro was cool, but it dragged on a bit long. Into the heavy stuff that was obviously lifted from Holst (a metal staple). Now moving into something new. So far; so good, although I'm not loving the production. Four minutes in, and the instrumentalists are being a bit wanky. Now a soft section, so hopefully we'll be getting to some meat soon. I like the odd time stuff. And some nice vocals. You're right; this is quite different from what I heard with Adrenaline Mob. Liking what I'm hearing so far and wishing I knew about this at the time. I spot checked the second half of the song and heard some interesting things. I'll have to give it another listen to get a sense of the full song, but I heard nothing that made me want to give up on it.
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Love Symphony X, not quite enough to crack my top 25, though.
Yeah, I would've maybe expected them a little higher than 50, but I guess not :biggrin:
I'm especially fond of the earlier period...not so much because of the "neoclassical" influence...I just prefer the way the records sounded and the more melodic approach. Divine is probably my #1, but I think The Damnation Game is fantastic too (Edge of Forever is a serious candidate for my favorite Sym X song). Twilight in Olympus has top moments, as well. Not as much of a fan of The Odyssey as most (I believe) - I like it, but don't love it. I mentioned it recently, but their latest, Underworld, is my favorite of the post-V records. I feel like they rediscovered a bit of their more melodic approach, without sacrificing the "crunch".
As for Miles Davis - he's unbelievable, but clearly I'm not saying anything new or shocking ;) I have fond memories of listening to his music around the time I met my (now) wife. Kind of Blue is obviously classic, but you can't go wrong with 'Round About Midnight, Walkin', Miles Ahead, Relaxin', Workin' Milestones...so good. As much as it was revolutionary, I can't say I'm as crazy about Bitches Brew, but I do love some of the albums leading up to that sound (Neferiti, In a Silent Way...)
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Generally when I’ve tried to listen to Symphony X, I stop once the singing starts. Very cheesy stuff.
You don't say! Apparently Bosk thought so at some point in the way back past.
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Generally when I’ve tried to listen to Symphony X, I stop once the singing starts. Very cheesy stuff.
Whatever “cheesy” is, Allen is the exact opposite. But of course you haven’t listened to The Odyssey, and won’t.
Listening to some of The Odyssey now. One man’s cheese is another man’s treasure. I have a hard time taking this style of music seriously. He’s certainly a talented vocalist though.
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I just realized that, when I went through my music collection and compiled a rough list of a little over 40 bands that had a hope of making the all-time top 25, I completely overlooked The Dead Milkmen…and now I’m very very sad.
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I just realized that, when I went through my music collection and compiled a rough list of a little over 40 bands that had a hope of making the all-time top 25, I completely overlooked The Dead Milkmen…and now I’m very very sad.
Bitchin Camaro!
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We have a three-way tie tomorrow so today's update is just one band.
49. Agalloch
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 101,100
Highest Finish: 4 (Buddyhunter1, elefantStone)
Number of Lists appeared on: 4 (King Puppies and the Acid Guppies, Buddyhunter1, TheHoveringSojourn808, elefantStone)
I haven't listened to this band in years. I remember checking out The Mantle years ago as a recommendation from someone on this forum. From what I remember it was pretty good but a bit tough to get into at first.
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Solid band. Not one of my absolute faves but one I can enjoy from time to time, especially at this time of year.
Like you Reaper, I first checked out The Mantle on a recommendation from someone here. Back when I first joined DTF there seemed to be a few people who were still discussing this band fairly regularly, but that doesn't seem to be the case nowadays at all.
The Mantle is easily my favourite of theirs, followed by Ashes Against the Grain. According to my last.fm I (think) have checked out all their albums at least once. Guess I'll spin The Mantle later.
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Ooh, an interesting pick! I didn't think I'd see them on this list, given that they don't get mentioned too much on the board. I prefer their early stuff, especially The Mantle. That album is fantastic.
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Can't say I've ever heard a single note...anyone care to make a suggest as to where to begin?
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We have a three-way tie tomorrow so today's update is just one band.
49. Agalloch
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Highest Finish: 4 (Buddyhunter1, elefantStone)
Number of Lists appeared on: 4 (King Puppies and the Acid Guppies, Buddyhunter1, TheHoveringSojourn808, elefantStone)
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I have mainly listened to V and the Odyssey when it comes to Symphony X. I like them both but I have never felt compelled to do a deep dive into the catalog.
I enjoy listening to jazz and have huge respect for the musicians. That said I am definitely a jazz noob and basically only know the name when it comes to Miles Davis.
Got sent In the Shadow of our Pale Companion in my one and only roulette 9 years ago and I still come back to that song and The Mantle occasionally. Never listened to more Agalloch than that.
I have a feeling that most of my list will be featured in the top 50 as my music library is heavily influenced by this forum.
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Not my thing. When the genres is "black-metal" and "gothic-doom", it's a pretty solid pass for me.
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I got into them late so they missed my list. Definite top 50 though. Although, the Mantle would rate very high on another top 50 list if I did one.
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I've enjoyed listening to Agalloch from time to time, but it's not something I revisit regularly.
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Not my thing. When the genres is "black-metal" and "gothic-doom", it's a pretty solid pass for me.
I think I've seen "folk-metal" with them as well, which is a hard pass for me.
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Their second album The Mantle is all of that, yet more. It's progressive. It's ambiental. It's melodic. It's experimental. It's Opeth as much as it's Goodspeed! You Black Emperor. Really interesting stuff.
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Their second album The Mantle is all of that, yet more. It's progressive. It's ambiental. It's melodic. It's experimental. It's Opeth as much as it's Goodspeed! You Black Emperor. Really interesting stuff.
Yea, that's a really good description.
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Not my thing. When the genres is "black-metal" and "gothic-doom", it's a pretty solid pass for me.
I think I've seen "folk-metal" with them as well, which is a hard pass for me.
Folk Metal is a bit of a misnomer for Agalloch. They don't sound like your typical folk metal band at all.
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Their second album The Mantle is all of that, yet more. It's progressive. It's ambiental. It's melodic. It's experimental. It's Opeth as much as it's Goodspeed! You Black Emperor. Really interesting stuff.
Godspeed You! Black Emperor is another band I've seen the name of before (and thought it was really weird/funny) but haven't heard a note of. The placement of the exclamation mark really throws me (and apparently others) off. :lol
Reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Elaine is explaining why the muffin shop name didn't need an exclamation mark at the end - "it's not Top O The Muffin TO YOU!".
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Not my thing. When the genres is "black-metal" and "gothic-doom", it's a pretty solid pass for me.
I think I've seen "folk-metal" with them as well, which is a hard pass for me.
Folk Metal is a bit of a misnomer for Agalloch. They don't sound like your typical folk metal band at all.
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Absolutely love this band. Ashes Against The Grain is still one of my favorite albums of all time, and was my gateway into black metal, even though in hindsight it's not... really... a black metal album? It's got the harsh vocal style and the wintery atmosphere, but compositionally it's way too slow and melodic to be black metal. Same with The Mantle, which is even more mellow and folky. Pale Folklore and The Marrow Of The Spirit have more in the way of black metal hallmarks like blast beats, tremolo picking, and faster tempos. I wasn't super into those albums at first, but now they're my favorites by them right behind Ashes Of The Grain. Black metal's a hard genre to dive headfirst into, so if you've been curious but need to be eased into it a little more slowly, this band is perfect, especially if you're already a fan of folky metal bands like Opeth.
The White EP is also marvelous. Probably my favorite EP of all time, and an absolutely beautiful 30 minutes of neo-folk.
This was also the band breakup that bummed me out the most, especially since their fifth and last album was a good deal below the standard of quality set by their previous releases. But they have a few one-off(?) reunion shows coming up soon, so fingers crossed that leads to something more.
Also, you fogeys will get all your old bands featured later on in the countdown, be patient. :biggrin:
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agalloch making this list reminded me that i get to see one of the very rare post-breakup performances in December. they're playing a beer festival and i think it's only gonna be their 2nd or 3rd show since they broke up
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agalloch making this list reminded me that i get to see one of the very rare post-breakup performances in December. they're playing a beer festival and i think it's only gonna be their 2nd or 3rd show since they broke up
Lucky. I was able to catch them once on their Serpent & The Sphere tour before they broke up, though.
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Their second album The Mantle is all of that, yet more. It's progressive. It's ambiental. It's melodic. It's experimental. It's Opeth as much as it's Goodspeed! You Black Emperor. Really interesting stuff.
Godspeed You! Black Emperor is another band I've seen the name of before (and thought it was really weird/funny) but haven't heard a note of. The placement of the exclamation mark really throws me (and apparently others) off. :lol
Reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Elaine is explaining why the muffin shop name didn't need an exclamation mark at the end - "it's not Top O The Muffin TO YOU!".
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Godspeed You! Black Emperor would have made my list if they had stopped after Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven. :lol
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I’ve heard Marrow of the Spirit by Agalloch years ago. Can’t remember if I liked it or not. Didn’t make my list.
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agalloch making this list reminded me that i get to see one of the very rare post-breakup performances in December. they're playing a beer festival and i think it's only gonna be their 2nd or 3rd show since they broke up
Haha, for some reason that made me laugh. THAT'S our #49?!? :) :) :) :) :)
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Hey now, who said popularity meant quality :lol
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*taps the sign*
Also, you fogeys will get all your old bands featured later on in the countdown, be patient. :biggrin:
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It is kind of funny, but there are a number of acts on my list who would probably struggle to fill a small theater.
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I love Ashes Against the Grain and The Mantle and I really like the rest of Agalloch's material, but for some reason I didn't really consider them for this list. I guess they're too recent a discovery for me, even though I think it's been a couple of years since I've got them in my roulette (4 or 7 years to be precise). I also haven't managed to caught them live while they were still active and I think that might've affected their placement too.
I'm glad they made the list (and I'm glad we decided to do a Top 50), terrific band.
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Crickets continue to chirp. Never heard of this band (or, if I have, I don't remember).
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I've tried to get into Agalloch over the years, since their fanbase seems to overlap a lot with some other bands I like, but they're just alright to me. I haven't tried all that hard, but nothing has fully connected yet.
Not my thing. When the genres is "black-metal" and "gothic-doom", it's a pretty solid pass for me.
I think I've seen "folk-metal" with them as well, which is a hard pass for me.
Folk Metal is a bit of a misnomer for Agalloch. They don't sound like your typical folk metal band at all.
Gothic-doom is a misnomer too. None of their albums or EPs have either as a primary genre on Rate Your Music. Maybe undertones in songs here and there, but that matches what I've heard as well, they're a mix of a lot of different things, but more black-leaning.
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Their second album The Mantle is all of that, yet more. It's progressive. It's ambiental. It's melodic. It's experimental. It's Opeth as much as it's Goodspeed! You Black Emperor. Really interesting stuff.
Godspeed You! Black Emperor is another band I've seen the name of before (and thought it was really weird/funny) but haven't heard a note of. The placement of the exclamation mark really throws me (and apparently others) off. :lol
Reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Elaine is explaining why the muffin shop name didn't need an exclamation mark at the end - "it's not Top O The Muffin TO YOU!".
-Marc.
Godspeed You! Black Emperor would have made my list if they had stopped after Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven. :lol
I used to be a much bigger fan of them myself. Still love the early stuff, but the reunion material, while good, has been quite underwhelming. Kind of a bizarre phenomenon, really, that a band releasing more music can dilute the older releases by association.
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Kind of a bizarre phenomenon, really, that a band releasing more music can dilute the older releases by association.
And we haven't even gotten to Leprous yet...
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I wouldn't put Leprous in that category but I know a couple of people on DTF that would do that for sure.
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I wouldn't put Leprous in that category but I know a couple of people on DTF that would do that for sure.
It's me, I'm people. :lol
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I guess everybody's gotta be wrong sometimes. :)
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Symphony X appeared near the middle of my list, and probably higher than I would have thought. But when I was ranking, I tended to focus on their three stellar albums (Underworld, Odyssey, and V) rather than the ones that didn't work. One of many bands where I will probably get to a point where I look back fondly on a handful of really good albums while the rest of their work fades into obscurity for me.
Didn't rank the other two. Pleasantly surprised that Miles Davis made the top 50 list. That's pretty cool.
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Their second album The Mantle is all of that, yet more. It's progressive. It's ambiental. It's melodic. It's experimental. It's Opeth as much as it's Goodspeed! You Black Emperor. Really interesting stuff.
Godspeed You! Black Emperor is another band I've seen the name of before (and thought it was really weird/funny) but haven't heard a note of. The placement of the exclamation mark really throws me (and apparently others) off. :lol
Reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Elaine is explaining why the muffin shop name didn't need an exclamation mark at the end - "it's not Top O The Muffin TO YOU!".
-Marc.
Godspeed You! Black Emperor would have made my list if they had stopped after Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven. :lol
I used to be a much bigger fan of them myself. Still love the early stuff, but the reunion material, while good, has been quite underwhelming. Kind of a bizarre phenomenon, really, that a band releasing more music can dilute the older releases by association.
Well you say that but Godspeed's last album is my favourite by them, I think it's really, really good.
I wouldn't put Leprous in that category but I know a couple of people on DTF that would do that for sure.
It's me, I'm people. :lol
Leprous's (imo) albums have all been a step down in quality each release since The Congregation (although Malina only a little). Aphelion has been the only truly disappointing one for me, but combined that with how Einar's solo left even less of an impression on me and I'm worried for their future output.
The last few releases don't dilute the greatness of their best albums but I'm just overall less interested in the band in 2023.
They did just miss out on making my list and ended in the high 20s.
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Cool to see Agalloch. Small discography but it's a fantastic one. Ashes and Mantle are both 5/5 albums and honestly Pale Folklore and Marrow of the Spirit aren't that much worse.
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agalloch making this list reminded me that i get to see one of the very rare post-breakup performances in December. they're playing a beer festival and i think it's only gonna be their 2nd or 3rd show since they broke up
Haha, for some reason that made me laugh. THAT'S our #49?!? :) :) :) :) :)
This gave me an idea, Ive now included monthly Spotify stream count.
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agalloch making this list reminded me that i get to see one of the very rare post-breakup performances in December. they're playing a beer festival and i think it's only gonna be their 2nd or 3rd show since they broke up
Haha, for some reason that made me laugh. THAT'S our #49?!? :) :) :) :) :)
it's denver, beer is a big deal here, lol. it's not by any means a small festival and many of the bands that i expect will end up higher in this list are playing far smaller venues in denver if/when they still even come around ;)
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Cool to see Miles Davis even though I've never really gotten into his classic sound. It's fine. I'll listen to it but nothing has really grabbed me. I did listen to his fusion album, Amandla quite a bit with my brother. That one is still in my library.
SX haven't listened to for nearly twenty years now.
Agalloch I've heard OF but never listened to.
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agalloch making this list reminded me that i get to see one of the very rare post-breakup performances in December. they're playing a beer festival and i think it's only gonna be their 2nd or 3rd show since they broke up
Haha, for some reason that made me laugh. THAT'S our #49?!? :) :) :) :) :)
it's denver, beer is a big deal here, lol. it's not by any means a small festival and many of the bands that i expect will end up higher in this list are playing far smaller venues in denver if/when they still even come around ;)
No judgement; Asia used to play the Milford Oyster Fest pretty regularly, so there's that. ;)
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Anybody can play a beer fest. Even my band, who nobody knows played the Great American Beer Festival a few weeks ago!
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I saw David Lee Roth at Ribfest like 20 years ago, he probably played to a total of 100 people, and yes he was terrible
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Didn’t have Agalloch on my list. I like them, but I have to be in the right mood. I mean, I am always up for melancholic music, actually, so they generally tick my boxes, but despite owning all their albums I don’t revisit them super-often.
I will say Ashes is my favorite of theirs - and any fan of early-to-mid Katatonia should give Falling Snow a listen. Fantastic song.
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I have listened to Agalloch a little.
No way would I have ranked them.
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Not my thing. When the genres is "black-metal" and "gothic-doom", it's a pretty solid pass for me.
I think I've seen "folk-metal" with them as well, which is a hard pass for me.
Folk Metal is a bit of a misnomer for Agalloch. They don't sound like your typical folk metal band at all.
I don't think the label 'folk metal' has any place in the same universe as Agalloch.
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46t. Scorpions
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Spotify Profile (https://open.spotify.com/artist/27T030eWyCQRmDyuvr1kxY?si=ys8ZxYXLSBWrfkYOXEpCcg)
Monthly Spotify Streams: 12,757,198
Highest Finish: 2 (Zoom E)
Number of Lists appeared on: 5 (Dream Team, pg1067, Setlist Scotty, bosk1, Zoom E)
Kind of surprised to see Scorprions so low. They didn't make my list but I thought there was a larger fanbase here. Even though they didn't make my personal list I do really like Scorprions. They were one of my parents favorite bands so I listened to them a lot growing up. I have to give them a listen sometime soon.
I'm a bit surprised they have more monthly streams than A7X, I'm also surprised they formed in 1965, I thought they were a 70's band.
46t. Avenged Sevenfold
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 10,088,151
Highest Finish: 2 (CharlesPL)
Number of Lists appeared on: 5 (coz, twosuitsluke, devieira73, Vmadera00, CharlesPL, SomeoneLikeHim)
Another band that I'm not too familiar with, I'd love to get some recommendations on where to start.
46t. King Crimson
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 858,296
Highest Finish: 2 (SwedishGoose)
Number of Lists appeared on: 4 (HOF, Metropolaris, SwedishGoose, TheHoveringSojourn808)
Not personally a fan of King Crimson. I gave a few tracks a spin some time ago and it didn't really resonate with me.
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Enjoy the Scorpions well enough, even seen them a few times live, but that's about it.
KC is just too weird for me, but it was an enjoyable live show.
A7X never did it for me at all. :dunno:
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I'm 1/3 today, as I had Avenged Sevenfold at #25.
I am not a fan of Scorpions at all, and I'm almost more shocked at seeing them than Miles Davis. I dunno, they don't even register on my radar personally. Zoom E, want to suggest an album to sample?
King Crimson, being a classic prog band, I expected higher than this, maybe in the 30s. I didn't vote for them as I've only ever heard a few albums. They're alright, maybe one day I'll dig deeper.
Onto Avenged. They were one of the first "new" metal bands I discovered myself in 2005, after mainly devouring all the thrash classics. City of Evil was massive for me, and probably remains a top 25 all time album.
My love for the band has waned over the years but I would always come back to the classics. Their latest has reignited my love for the band (as it has for others) and it's currently unchallenged as my album of the year. This definitely impacted my ranking of the band, and allowed them to creep on to my list.
I'm pleasantly surprised to see them here, and wonder if the new album is a contributing factor.
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46t. Scorpions
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 12,757,198
Highest Finish: 2 (Zoom E)
Number of Lists appeared on: 5 (Dream Team, pg1067, Setlist Scotty, bosk1, Zoom E)
Kind of surprised to see Scorprions so low. They didn't make my list but I thought there was a larger fanbase here. Even though they didn't make my personal list I do really like Scorprions. They were one of my parents favorite bands so I listened to them a lot growing up. I have to give them a listen sometime soon.
I'm a bit surprised they have more monthly streams than A7X, I'm also surprised they formed in 1965, I thought they were a 70's band.
46t. Avenged Sevenfold
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 10,088,151
Highest Finish: 2 (CharlesPL)
Number of Lists appeared on: 5 (coz, twosuitsluke, devieira73, Vmadera00, CharlesPL, SomeoneLikeHim)
Another band that I'm not too familiar with, I'd love to get some recommendations on where to start.
46t. King Crimson
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 858,296
Highest Finish: 2 (SwedishGoose)
Number of Lists appeared on: 4 (HOF, Metropolaris, SwedishGoose, TheHoveringSojourn808)
Not personally a fan of King Crimson. I gave a few tracks a spin some time ago and it didn't really resonate with me.
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I had KC just outside my top 25, and was in the 26-30 that barely made it. They didn't quite make it mostly because out of their 13 studio albums, I maybe love like 4 or 5, though I appreciate more than half of their total output.
The other two I am not very familiar with at all. If Scorpions have radio hits, I may have heard them on the radio, but as for A7X, even though I love MP and check out most of his work, this was one that I never checked out despite Portnoy joining them for a hot minute. I've heard good things about them from friends though.
-Marc.
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Never cared much for Scorpions.
The only A7X album I like is the latest one.
LOVE King Crimson. #3 on my list.
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A bit dissapointed that they didn't come a bit higher but then only had them on the second spot.
Didn't get to see King Crimson live until 2016 and 2018 (twice) but those were totally awesome cocerts. The best musically i have ever seen so the non existant stage show could not drag them down. This was with the 3 drummers....
They are truly progressive in that Robert Fripp is always pushing for new things to do and new ways to arrange the band. Very few albums have the same lineup as the last.
I love everything I have heard from them....
So much great music to find with them I will just choose one from the 70ties, one from the 80ties and one from the 00s.
One of my absolute favorite songs.... so beautiful and cacaphonic, Starless. Here in a recording from 2015.
https://youtu.be/gWmECLnMKGk?si=q9OYuwq8v46g2vUT
A favorite from the 80ties Three of a perfect pair. Live in 1984:
https://youtu.be/Qt_zlZ3hlL8?si=G1MHHIQ-0DTrz0V0
A favorite from the 00s, Happy with what you have to be happy with:
https://youtu.be/SmpMG7aG1Co?si=VU2AOLXbJXtTkDaE
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For all those who are on the fence about Avenged Sevenfold, maybe sampled some of the MP era stuff, never heard them before or flat out disliked what they previously heard, for the love of God check out Cosmic off their latest...
https://youtu.be/aCxSpLumiRk?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/aCxSpLumiRk?feature=shared)
https://spotify.link/pZtBhmzxbEb (https://spotify.link/pZtBhmzxbEb)
Honestly one of the best songs I've heard in years and needs to be heard to be believed.
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Scorpions are nice, I enjoy both their Uli Jon Roth stuff from the late 70s and the albums from the early 80s. Didn't make my Top 25 though.
I haven't listened to King Crimson enough to make a judgment, aside from a song here and there. Starless is a lovely song though. One of the 70s prog bands I've barely checked out (along with ELP and Gentle Giant).
I have no interest in Avenged Sevenfold.
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I have no interest in Avenged Sevenfold.
Can I take 7 and a half minutes of your time? :lol
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0/3 for me, again, but good stuff...
Like Scorpions a lot...not enough to make my top 25, but there's a lot to love in their (lengthy) discography. The run from In Trance to Blackout is pretty great (Maybe Animal Magnetism a little less than great, but still)...Love at First Sting is very good and has iconic hits, of course. Then it's hit-or-miss. Later highlights for me include Face the Heat and Humanity: Hour I.
A7X certainly are one of the recent (i.e. from this century) bands that are not afraid to do things their way. Not all of their stuff hits the mark, but I like that they are adventurous and go for it. City of Evil is among the favorites, for sure. As is The Stage.
King Crimson is a bit weird for me. I believe I own all of their studio albums. I recognize how important they are and they have a ton of great material. Ant yet they never quite made it to the upper crust of my favorite prog. Perhaps it's a band I like more with my brain, rather than my "heart"? Not sure. If I were to pick a couple of (different) favorites, I'd probably go for Red and Discipline.
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Scorpions were on my list of 45 that I plugged into the ranker, but didn’t quite make the top 25. Even though their Wiki says they formed in 65, I think that’s kind of a stretch. Just because you picked out the name, and played completely different music with a few buddies who weren’t even around anymore by the time you started making albums doesn’t mean that was the beginning of the band. IDK, I guess different people will view it differently.
For me, Scorpions began in 1972 when Lonesome Crow was released. And a good album to start with is Taken by Force.
King Crimson I just haven’t heard enough of. I own the first two albums, and I’ve only heard a small handful of songs from the rest.
A7X has always come across as way too cheesy for me. The singles are some of the most commercial sounding metal I’ve ever heard. But I should probably give at least one of their albums a full spin.
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I have no interest in Avenged Sevenfold.
Can I take 7 and a half minutes of your time? :lol
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I checked it out just now, and it was more mellow than I expected (not full on metal). It didn't hold my attention too long though, it could just be that I'm at work and listening through crappy PC speakers at low volume :lol
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A7X came somewhere near my top 25. The other two didn't. Had no idea Scorpions were so popular. My perception of them is they're pub rock. A bit AC/DC (who I think are just dreadful). Looking forward to album suggestions.
A7X's latest album is a masterpiece. Really pushing the boundaries while still being listenable. Good on them.
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A7X has always come across as way too cheesy for me. The singles are some of the most commercial sounding metal I’ve ever heard. But I should probably give at least one of their albums a full spin.
Yeah, A7X have had their share of catchy, commercial singles, but they are definitely more than just that. Not to say that you'll necessarily like what you hear ;)...but I'd recommend going for a full-album experience to have a better feel of what they are about. Maybe give The Stage a spin (it's their second to last)
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Aren’t A7X the ones who popularized that trendy sound of having really super heavy brutal verses, and then switching over to a Backstreet Boys type of chorus?
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Aren’t A7X the ones who popularized that trendy sound of having really super heavy brutal verses, and then switching over to a Backstreet Boys type of chorus?
Hmmm...I don't think so...? That's definitely now how I'd describe their music. Maybe you are thinking of some other band?
With the exception of their 2013 album Hail to the King, which was relatively more straightforward (and kind of paying, um, "unofficial" tribute to a bunch of classic metal/hard rock bands - Metallica, Guns, Megadeth...), their albums are actually quite multi-layered and not your typical "mainstream" metal...
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20. Avenged Sevenfold
Avenged Sevenfold was one of the first bands I really loved once I started my exploration of metal music (and music in general) in the late 00's. A bit of a nostalgia pick for me but I still really love the 3 album run of City of Evil to Nightmare. The new album is cool as well.
Never considered Scorpions, only know a few hits.
King Crimson seems like a cool band. The only thing I've really listened to is ITCOTCK which I like and come back to somewhat frequently. Should probably try out some more at some point.
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Yea, Jammindude you're confusing them with Killswitch Engage or something. They got lumped in with the metalcore crowd but I don't personally consider them metalcore.
From City of Evil especially they started to diversify their sound and as Nick said, they were definitely more like Guns n Roses meets metal.
Definitely check out Cosmic, and the whole of their new album for that matter. They've released a really groundbreaking album this time. It doesn't sound like anything else I've ever heard (although it's individual parts sound like stuff I have heard).
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King Crimson is cool. One of the better classic prog acts, imo.
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I like Scorpions, but they wouldn't end up in my top 50. King Crimson, on the other hand, is an absolutely worthy addition to the list. :tup
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Scorpions - not really my tempo. Can appreciate their legacy ofc, some songs like Rock You Like a Hurricane or Winds of Change are undeniably good, but I don't listen to a lot of 70s-80s hard rock in general.
Avenged Sevenfold - kinda mixed feelings. Enjoy the self-titled and Nightmare, the rest of the discography is a mixed bag for me. I don't think they really have a fantastic album but they don't really have any bad ones either, they're OK.
King Crimson - one of my big blind spots in music. Have been telling myself to do a discography deep dive for ages and hopefully I can get the thumb out of my ass and actually do it some day. Definitely appreciate what I have heard, but it's not much.
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I'm surprised to see A7X making it.
I've been on the A7X bandwagon since 2004 or so. I fell off of it after The Rev passed (To this day, the only musician's death to hit me as hard as it did). So Far Away still makes me emotional when I listen to it. Hail to the King I had no interest in. But The Stage brought me back to the fanbase and the latest album is just great.
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Of these three, only King Crimson would have made my list.
Although Avenged Sevenfold's most recent album was exquisite. One of my favorites of the year.
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I had King Crimson at 19. Robert Fripp is legendary, and there is just something magical that happens when he assembles a group of musicians as KC. There are so many different eras that it was intimidating to even get into the band. I started with The Power To Believe actually, which was an excellent late career album, so I first really got into the band with Belew, especially the Discipline trio of albums. Took me a while to circle back to the 70s stuff, but the Wetton era is excellent, and Red is an essential prog album (and Starless is an essential prog track). I also really love Islands and Lizard. Then the later touring only version of KC with Jakko on vocals is also amazing, and they breathed some new life into those older songs.
So many great musicians have shone in KC. In addition to those already mentioned, Bruford, Levin, Mel Collins, Gavin Harrison, Pat Mastelloto, Davis Cross, and on and on. Just a great collection of music to dig into.
Not into A7X at all. Grew up with The Scorpions on the radio, but never took an interest in exploring their albums.
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46t. Avenged Sevenfold
46t. King Crimson
Hey...finally someone I ranked!
I didn't really think about current listening versus nostalgia, etc. when I did my rankings. The Scorps kind of fit into both, although there was a long time from the early '90s through the early '10s when I didn't give a lot of thought to the band. The best of the Roth era, together with the Jabs albums through Love at First Sting (and maybe continuing to the next couple albums) made for an impressive catalog.
Never gave much thought to Avenged (everything I heard (before today) was uber-generic, brickwalled, early 2000s poser metal), and I'm surprised King Crimson isn't higher, although I've never heard anything that appealed to me.
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For all those who are on the fence about Avenged Sevenfold, maybe sampled some of the MP era stuff, never heard them before or flat out disliked what they previously heard, for the love of God check out Cosmic off their latest...
https://youtu.be/aCxSpLumiRk?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/aCxSpLumiRk?feature=shared)
I got 30 seconds in and started having visions of Simon Cowell and Randy Jackson telling the guy he was "pitchy."
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Scorpions made my list.
KC does not surprise me, given their following here and their standing in the prog world. They are a bit too weird and out there for me personally, so I never was a fan.
A7X does not really surprise me either given their popularity. I bought Nightmare just because MP played on it, and I really enjoy that album. Their other stuff is hit and miss for me.
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Scorpions are good, but most of the albums have a few good songs and the rest is not up my alley. They would've made my Top 50 probably, but not my Top 25.
A7X, enjoyed A Little Piece of Heaven and also a few songs from The Stage, didn't like Cosmic much, overall not something I would go out of my way to listen to.
King Crimson I respect but personally never liked their music much.
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Love the Scorpions. Not enough to make my list, but they're definitely one of the earlier bands that still hold up well for me. The first time I consciously heard "Rock You Like a Hurricane" on the radio I was blown away with Jabs' soloing. Love At First Sting is still an incredible album, and "Coming Home" is another incredible track on it. Taken By Force a bit earlier with Uli is the culmination of their pre-stadium rock/metal era, "Sails of Charon" is an essential track. Meine is one of the best rock/metal vocalists you can hear on the radio.
Avenged Sevenfold mostly never clicked with me. Certainly a lot of talent in the band, Gates is an excellent guitarist, but Shadows' vocal delivery always rubbed me the wrong way. City of Evil is a pretty good album though, "The Beast and the Harlot" and "Sidewinder" are great tracks, particularly the acoustic guitar duel in the latter.
King Crimson is another of the classic prog bands that has aged better for me. It took me awhile to get into them, I've gone back to mostly neglecting them at this point that I'm due for some revisiting, but they have so many killer albums over the years. Red is easily my favorite.
Yea, Jammindude you're confusing them with Killswitch Engage or something. They got lumped in with the metalcore crowd but I don't personally consider them metalcore.
From City of Evil especially they started to diversify their sound and as Nick said, they were definitely more like Guns n Roses meets metal.
I don't think he's confusing them. The first two albums are definitely part of the 00s melodic metalcore scene with some sections having harsh vocals which contrast with other sections having clean ones. A lot of people heard those albums or something from them, formed their opinion of them, and never bother revising it. They definitely bring in more classic metal and proggy elements over time after M. Shadows dropped the harsh vocal style component after blowing out his voice.
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Yea, Jammindude you're confusing them with Killswitch Engage or something. They got lumped in with the metalcore crowd but I don't personally consider them metalcore.
From City of Evil especially they started to diversify their sound and as Nick said, they were definitely more like Guns n Roses meets metal.
I don't think he's confusing them. The first two albums are definitely part of the 00s melodic metalcore scene with some sections having harsh vocals which contrast with other sections having clean ones. A lot of people heard those albums or something from them, formed their opinion of them, and never bother revising it. They definitely bring in more classic metal and proggy elements over time after M. Shadows dropped the harsh vocal style component after blowing out his voice.
Yeah, but even those early ones - while surely part of that melodic metalcore scene - didn't have the standard, cookie-cutter heavy verse/super-melodic chorus (at least Waking the Fallen)...if I remember correctly. It's the "Backstreet Boys-type chorus" reference that makes me think Jammindude is maybe thinking of some other band. Not sure which, but there were plenty of so-called metalcore bands that used that template. I wouldn't necessarily describe A7X's first couple of albums that way.
But who knows...maybe that's exactly what J-Dude is thinking of :) Regardless, I think it's worth giving the band's later albums a shot, since they sound almost entirely different (and are much better, imo)
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Well, that's the derisive way to look at it. Personally I love that dynamic contrast of vocal types, but it's easy to do poorly. Killswitch Engage was probably the key popularizer of it in the 00s, but it really grew to prominence much earlier with Fear Factory (with some practitioners experimenting with versions of it even earlier).
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I’d have to revisit their hits to check and see if they are who I was thinking of. But I’m at work right now. I’ll report back when I have time
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Yea, Jammindude you're confusing them with Killswitch Engage or something. They got lumped in with the metalcore crowd but I don't personally consider them metalcore.
From City of Evil especially they started to diversify their sound and as Nick said, they were definitely more like Guns n Roses meets metal.
I don't think he's confusing them. The first two albums are definitely part of the 00s melodic metalcore scene with some sections having harsh vocals which contrast with other sections having clean ones. A lot of people heard those albums or something from them, formed their opinion of them, and never bother revising it. They definitely bring in more classic metal and proggy elements over time after M. Shadows dropped the harsh vocal style component after blowing out his voice.
Yeah, but even those early ones - while surely part of that melodic metalcore scene - didn't have the standard, cookie-cutter heavy verse/super-melodic chorus (at least Waking the Fallen)...if I remember correctly. It's the "Backstreet Boys-type chorus" reference that makes me think Jammindude is maybe thinking of some other band. Not sure which, but there were plenty of so-called metalcore bands that used that template. I wouldn't necessarily describe A7X's first couple of albums that way.
But who knows...maybe that's exactly what J-Dude is thinking of :) Regardless, I think it's worth giving the band's later albums a shot, since they sound almost entirely different (and are much better, imo)
Unholy Confessions fits the description of heavy verses, melodic choruses.
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Well, that's the derisive way to look at it. Personally I love that dynamic contrast of vocal types, but it's easy to do poorly. Killswitch Engage was probably the key popularizer of it in the 00s, but it really grew to prominence much earlier with Fear Factory (with some practitioners experimenting with versions of it even earlier).
Oh, I'm with you on that. And, incidentally, I very much enjoy Killswitch Engage's End of Heartache :)...and I agree Fear Factory were among the first to introduce that contrast (easy to forget now, but that's part of what made Demanufacture such a milestone in heavy music).
What I'm generally saying is that with anything that starts off new and exciting, if it becomes popular/successful enough, in time it will attract a horde of imitators that only does it to jump on the bandwagon. Not everyone does it for that reason, of course. But you can typically tell when it is, just by how "tired" things sound.
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I am not a fan of Scorpions at all, and I'm almost more shocked at seeing them than Miles Davis. I dunno, they don't even register on my radar personally. Zoom E, want to suggest an album to sample?
The two eras you'd want to check out are the Uli Jon Roth era in the seventies, and the 1979 to 1984 period when which was their peak with Matthias Jabs. A change in guitarist brought about quite a different sound for the Scorps.
From the Uli Jon Roth era, I’d suggest In Trance, or, as Jammindude mentioned, Taken By Force. From their early eighties heydey, I suggest Blackout, which was their breakout release, giving them their first big commercial success.
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I am not a fan of Scorpions at all, and I'm almost more shocked at seeing them than Miles Davis. I dunno, they don't even register on my radar personally. Zoom E, want to suggest an album to sample?
The two eras you'd want to check out are the Uli Jon Roth era in the seventies, and the 1979 to 1984 period when which was their peak with Matthias Jabs. A change in guitarist brought about quite a different sound for the Scorps.
From the Uli Jon Roth era, I’d suggest In Trance, or, as Jammindude mentioned, Taken By Force. From their early eighties heydey, I suggest Blackout, which was their breakout release, giving them their first big commercial success.
I would second Taken By Force.
I hate to say it, but Love At First Sting has probably aged a little better than Blackout for me.
Although China White :metal
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I am not a fan of Scorpions at all, and I'm almost more shocked at seeing them than Miles Davis. I dunno, they don't even register on my radar personally. Zoom E, want to suggest an album to sample?
The two eras you'd want to check out are the Uli Jon Roth era in the seventies, and the 1979 to 1984 period when which was their peak with Matthias Jabs. A change in guitarist brought about quite a different sound for the Scorps.
From the Uli Jon Roth era, I’d suggest In Trance, or, as Jammindude mentioned, Taken By Force. From their early eighties heydey, I suggest Blackout, which was their breakout release, giving them their first big commercial success.
I would second Taken By Force.
I hate to say it, but Love At First Sting has probably aged a little better than Blackout for me.
Although China White :metal
Taken By Force is fantastic - The Sails of Charon and We'll Burn the Sky are among my favorite things Scorpions have ever done.
...and, for me, Blackout beats Love at First Sting every time...
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I consider them relatively even at this point.
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We’ll Burn the Sky is their greatest song. Check out the live version on Tokyo Tapes, just fantastic vocals, melodies and dynamics.
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Which mod do I need to get ahold of to ban this guy?
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I consider them relatively even at this point.
I'd agree with this. I just have a bit more of an attachment to Blackout, as it was my first Scorpions album.
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46t. Scorpions
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Highest Finish: 2 (Zoom E)
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Kind of surprised to see Scorprions so low. They didn't make my list but I thought there was a larger fanbase here. Even though they didn't make my personal list I do really like Scorprions. They were one of my parents favorite bands so I listened to them a lot growing up. I have to give them a listen sometime soon.
I'm a bit surprised they have more monthly streams than A7X, I'm also surprised they formed in 1965, I thought they were a 70's band.
46t. Avenged Sevenfold
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Another band that I'm not too familiar with, I'd love to get some recommendations on where to start.
46t. King Crimson
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Not personally a fan of King Crimson. I gave a few tracks a spin some time ago and it didn't really resonate with me.
hell yeah, i hit again!
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Blackout >>> Love at First Sting
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didn't like Cosmic much
Which mod do I need to get ahold of to ban this guy?
I know a guy.
Also, thanks Scorpions fans, Taken by Force it is.
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Didn't rate any the last 3 although like a lot of 80's Scorpions. Never got much outta KC and came in at completely the wrong time with A7X, rght when Nightmare dropped which I dug a lot.
Sure there were obvious influences but that album stood on its own but can't say the same of the follow-up Hail The King which was just way more OTT blatant Metallica Black, almost right down to the song sequencing :lol
And never got back on board, unfortunately the latest album does nothing to rectify that. Interesting to see them in the 50!
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44t. The Dear Hunter
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I've tried to get into The Dear Hunter a few times and it just never clicked for me. I do like a few songs and keep them in the rotation.
44t. Frank Zappa
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I've always struggled to get into Frank's music. I'd actually love a recommendation on a couple of albums to check out.
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I should love Zappa, and boy have I tried over the years, but his music just does not resonate with me whatsoever.
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The Dear Hunter
I don't think I have ever heard them so a few recommendations would be great
Frank Zappa
I have some things by Zappa and listen to him from time to time but nothing has really clicked yet.
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Huh. I was expecting TDH to be higher. I always enjoy listening to them, but don’t reach for them too often.
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I should love Zappa, and boy have I tried over the years, but his music just does not resonate with me whatsoever.
Same here. I've tried it from different angles a couple of times but to no avail. I guess it isn't for everyone.
I think I've heard a few The Dear Hunter songs, and liking The Lake And The River especially.
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Just haven't dived into TDH much. Actually thinking of catching their upcoming show if work allows for it.
Never really understood the appeal of Zappa.
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I have to be in the right mood for TDH, and even then I don’t think I’ve ever made it through an entire album.
A few years ago I took a deep dive into Zappa’s discography and listened to his first 20 albums (live albums included). Out of those 20, I think I enjoyed 3. I respect the talent, but it’s just not for me.
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I like some Zappa, particularly the early "phychadelic" stuff and some of the 70s proggier records, but overall, he's not exactly my cup of tea.
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Zappa is one I haven't really spent much time with. Definitely appreciate aspects to his music but haven't been sold on sitting down with a full album.
TDH are great. Perhaps you could say their discography/sound is a bit one dimensional (except from The Color Spectrum which rules!) so I kinda need to be in a certain mood for them, but they have a very solid discography. Act IV and Act II are both fantastic.
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The Color Spectrum is fantastic. Anything else by The Dear Hunter I've tried to get into (Act IV mostly) has done pretty much nothing for me.
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I really haven’t tried with Zappa, but the few things I heard didn’t interest me a ton. I do like Mike Keneally who was an acolyte of Zappa’s, so maybe I would like some of it if I tried.
Not sure if I‘be listened to The Dear Hunter or not to be honest. I have an idea of what I think they sound like, but I’m probably wrong.
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wish my boy frank was higher but i am glad he made it at all
he is the greatest guitar player who ever lived, and my ultimate guy
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wish my boy frank was higher but i am glad he made it at all
he is the greatest guitar player who ever lived, and my ultimate guy
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I fully realize that what I'm asking here is pretty ridiculous, but if you had to pick one album to best sum up Zappa, which would you choose?
p.s. it's what I'm going to listen to next!
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44t. The Dear Hunter
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I've tried to get into The Dear Hunter a few times and it just never clicked for me. I do like a few songs and keep them in the rotation.
44t. Frank Zappa
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I've always struggled to get into Frank's music. I'd actually love a recommendation on a couple of albums to check out.
Two more I did not rank, nor have I listened to. I may have heard some FZ in passing but I'm pretty certain I haven't heard any TDH, though I've been meaning to check them out at some point.
NR Miles Davis
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Many cool artists and some mid ones so far, but none featured on my list yet :corn
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I usually don’t recommend greatest hits compilations, but my love for Zappa started with “Strictly Commercial”. I remember looking through the Zappa section at the CD shop trying to figure out the best choice, and a little description on the back said, “If you don’t know where to start, start here.” So I bought it on the spot. It really is a great collection.
But for proper albums, I would say to start with Apostrophe, then Hot Rats, then We’re Only In It For the Money. Maybe Just Another Band from LA just for the brilliant 23 minute epic Billy the Mountain. EDIT - but be forewarned that a lot of funniest parts of Billy the Mountain is humor that is very dated and/or LA-centric. References to people, places, politicians, and fear mongering that was happening in the area at the time.
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I am not a fan of Scorpions at all, and I'm almost more shocked at seeing them than Miles Davis. I dunno, they don't even register on my radar personally. Zoom E, want to suggest an album to sample?
The two eras you'd want to check out are the Uli Jon Roth era in the seventies, and the 1979 to 1984 period when which was their peak with Matthias Jabs. A change in guitarist brought about quite a different sound for the Scorps.
From the Uli Jon Roth era, I’d suggest In Trance, or, as Jammindude mentioned, Taken By Force. From their early eighties heydey, I suggest Blackout, which was their breakout release, giving them their first big commercial success.
I think this is a SOLID recommendation. I sorta agree with TAC about LAFS aging better (and it has the still-stellar "Still Loving You" on it) but you can't really go wrong either way, you know? And anyone who doubts Uli's playing, listen to Sails Of Charon; no doubt Yngwie spent hours studying THAT tune.
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wish my boy frank was higher but i am glad he made it at all
he is the greatest guitar player who ever lived, and my ultimate guy
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I fully realize that what I'm asking here is pretty ridiculous, but if you had to pick one album to best sum up Zappa, which would you choose?
p.s. it's what I'm going to listen to next!
I started with Apostrophe.
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wish my boy frank was higher but i am glad he made it at all
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I fully realize that what I'm asking here is pretty ridiculous, but if you had to pick one album to best sum up Zappa, which would you choose?
p.s. it's what I'm going to listen to next!
i have deep dived Zappa many times, and this is my overrall ranking of his discography
Over-Nite Sensation
Hot Rats
Sheik Yerbouti
Apostrophe(')
Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch
Waka/Jawaka
The Grand Wazoo
Zoot Allures
Sleep Dirt
One Size Fits All
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The Man From Utopia
Joe's Garage
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Chunga's Revenge
Feeding The Monkey's At Ma Maison
Weasels Ripped My Flesh
You Are What You Is
We're Only In It For The Money
Burnt Weeny Sandwich
Studio Tan
Them Or Us
Absolutely Free
Frank Zappa Meets The Mothers Of Prevention
Cruising With Ruben & The Jets
Dance Me This
Thing-Fish
Freak Out!
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Make A Jazz Noise Here
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The Roxy Performances
Buffalo
Little Dots
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Zappa/Erie
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Halloween 77
Philly '76
Road Tapes, Venue #2
Hammersmith Odeon
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WAZOO
Imaginary Diseases
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The Mothers 1971
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 2
Zappa In New York: 40th Anniversary
Zappa In New York
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 1
The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life
Road Tapes, Venue #1
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Tinseltown Rebellion
Does Humor Belong In Music?
Carnegie Hall
Broadway The Hard Way
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Bongo Fury
Fillmore East - June 1971
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You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 6
One Shot Deal
Just Another Band From LA
Playground Psychotics
Ahead of Their Time
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200 Motels: The Suites
Orchestral Favorites
Everything Is Healing Nicely
London Symphony Orchestra Vol I + II
The Perfect Stranger
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Trance-Fusion
The Crux of the Biscuit
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Shut Up And Play Yer Guitar
Guitar
The Lumpy Money Project/Object
Meat Light
Greasy Love Songs
Joe's Corsage
Greasy Love Songs
Have I Offended Someone?
The MOFO Project/Object
Zappa - Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
"Congress Shall Make No Law..."
The Lost Episodes
Joe's Domage
Understanding America
The Mothers 1970
Zappatite
Joe's Camouflage
Mothermania
Joe's Xmasage
Frank Zappa For President
Mystery Disc
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Hot Rats Sessions
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The Dub Room Special
200 Motels
Baby Snakes
as far as recommendations, anything from the top 5 of my list, and i would say it depends on what you are looking for
Overnite Sensation is a good mix of styles and has some of his more classic songs
Hot Rats is purely instrumental, with one exception performance by captain beefheart, if you don't want the weird zappa lyrics, this is the one to do
SY or Apostrophe if you want more of the humor stuff
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I love The Dear Hunter. Not sure if they would have made my Top 25, but they would probably be in my Top 50.
Frank Zappa has thus far eluded me. Everything I know about him, and some of what I've heard, would indicate that I would probably love his stuff. But his catalogue is enormous, and I have just never taken the time to explore it.
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wish my boy frank was higher but i am glad he made it at all
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I fully realize that what I'm asking here is pretty ridiculous, but if you had to pick one album to best sum up Zappa, which would you choose?
p.s. it's what I'm going to listen to next!
i have deep dived Zappa many times, and this is my overrall ranking of his discography
Over-Nite Sensation
Hot Rats
Sheik Yerbouti
Apostrophe(')
Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch
Waka/Jawaka
The Grand Wazoo
Zoot Allures
Sleep Dirt
One Size Fits All
Funky Nothingness
Lumpy Gravy
The Man From Utopia
Joe's Garage
Uncle Meat
Civilization Phaze III
Chunga's Revenge
Feeding The Monkey's At Ma Maison
Weasels Ripped My Flesh
You Are What You Is
We're Only In It For The Money
Burnt Weeny Sandwich
Studio Tan
Them Or Us
Absolutely Free
Frank Zappa Meets The Mothers Of Prevention
Cruising With Ruben & The Jets
Dance Me This
Thing-Fish
Freak Out!
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Make A Jazz Noise Here
Roxy By Proxy
The Roxy Performances
Buffalo
Little Dots
Zappa '88: The Last U.S. Show
Zappa/Erie
Halloween 73
Halloween 77
Philly '76
Road Tapes, Venue #2
Hammersmith Odeon
Halloween 81
WAZOO
Imaginary Diseases
Chicago '78
Road Tapes, Venue #3
FZ:OZ
The Mothers 1971
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 2
Zappa In New York: 40th Anniversary
Zappa In New York
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 1
The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life
Road Tapes, Venue #1
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 3
Tinseltown Rebellion
Does Humor Belong In Music?
Carnegie Hall
Broadway The Hard Way
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 4
Bongo Fury
Fillmore East - June 1971
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 5
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 6
One Shot Deal
Just Another Band From LA
Playground Psychotics
Ahead of Their Time
Orchestral
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The Yellow Shark
200 Motels: The Suites
Orchestral Favorites
Everything Is Healing Nicely
London Symphony Orchestra Vol I + II
The Perfect Stranger
Francesco Zappa
Compilations
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Lather
Trance-Fusion
The Crux of the Biscuit
FZ Plays The Music of FZ
Shut Up And Play Yer Guitar
Guitar
The Lumpy Money Project/Object
Meat Light
Greasy Love Songs
Joe's Corsage
Greasy Love Songs
Have I Offended Someone?
The MOFO Project/Object
Zappa - Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
"Congress Shall Make No Law..."
The Lost Episodes
Joe's Domage
Understanding America
The Mothers 1970
Zappatite
Joe's Camouflage
Mothermania
Joe's Xmasage
Frank Zappa For President
Mystery Disc
Joe's Corsage
Hot Rats Sessions
Soundtracks
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A Token Of His Extreme
The Dub Room Special
200 Motels
Baby Snakes
as far as recommendations, anything from the top 5 of my list, and i would say it depends on what you are looking for
Overnite Sensation is a good mix of styles and has some of his more classic songs
Hot Rats is purely instrumental, with one exception performance by captain beefheart, if you don't want the weird zappa lyrics, this is the one to do
SY or Apostrophe if you want more of the humor stuff
WOW, that's impressive. I'm not familiar with all the material on that list, but what I am familiar with, I can't quibble with your ordering.
Big fan of "Roxy and Elsewhere"; famously, it's how Phil Collins selected Chester Thompson to be his live cohort in Genesis.
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Avenged @ 17. Love most of what they've put out since Waking the Fallen. Wow, 20 years ago already. Hail to the King was more of a miss. But the addition of Brooks Wackerman on drums has elevated them a level or two.
Scorpions are cool to listen to. I pretty much only know the radio hits though.
Zappa I enjoy in small doses. Most of it is too off the wall for me. Similar for Crimson.
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I agree, although, TBH, I haven't listened to Sting in a LONG time. Dynamite is pretty easily my favorite '80s Scorps song, and I even like Arizona.
44t. The Dear Hunter
44t. Frank Zappa
I've heard of Deer Hunter the movie. Never heard of the band. Zappa is someone I never thought about back in the day. I always feel like I should make an effort, but I have this feeling like he's just a bit TOO "out there" and finding stuff I like would be more effort than it's worth. Lame, I know.
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Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Alligator Rock, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa
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wish my boy frank was higher but i am glad he made it at all
he is the greatest guitar player who ever lived, and my ultimate guy
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I fully realize that what I'm asking here is pretty ridiculous, but if you had to pick one album to best sum up Zappa, which would you choose?
p.s. it's what I'm going to listen to next!
i have deep dived Zappa many times, and this is my overrall ranking of his discography
Over-Nite Sensation
Hot Rats
Sheik Yerbouti
Apostrophe(')
Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch
Waka/Jawaka
The Grand Wazoo
Zoot Allures
Sleep Dirt
One Size Fits All
Funky Nothingness
Lumpy Gravy
The Man From Utopia
Joe's Garage
Uncle Meat
Civilization Phaze III
Chunga's Revenge
Feeding The Monkey's At Ma Maison
Weasels Ripped My Flesh
You Are What You Is
We're Only In It For The Money
Burnt Weeny Sandwich
Studio Tan
Them Or Us
Absolutely Free
Frank Zappa Meets The Mothers Of Prevention
Cruising With Ruben & The Jets
Dance Me This
Thing-Fish
Freak Out!
Live Albums
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Roxy & Elsewhere
Make A Jazz Noise Here
Roxy By Proxy
The Roxy Performances
Buffalo
Little Dots
Zappa '88: The Last U.S. Show
Zappa/Erie
Halloween 73
Halloween 77
Philly '76
Road Tapes, Venue #2
Hammersmith Odeon
Halloween 81
WAZOO
Imaginary Diseases
Chicago '78
Road Tapes, Venue #3
FZ:OZ
The Mothers 1971
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 2
Zappa In New York: 40th Anniversary
Zappa In New York
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 1
The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life
Road Tapes, Venue #1
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 3
Tinseltown Rebellion
Does Humor Belong In Music?
Carnegie Hall
Broadway The Hard Way
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 4
Bongo Fury
Fillmore East - June 1971
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 5
You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 6
One Shot Deal
Just Another Band From LA
Playground Psychotics
Ahead of Their Time
Orchestral
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The Yellow Shark
200 Motels: The Suites
Orchestral Favorites
Everything Is Healing Nicely
London Symphony Orchestra Vol I + II
The Perfect Stranger
Francesco Zappa
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Lather
Trance-Fusion
The Crux of the Biscuit
FZ Plays The Music of FZ
Shut Up And Play Yer Guitar
Guitar
The Lumpy Money Project/Object
Meat Light
Greasy Love Songs
Joe's Corsage
Greasy Love Songs
Have I Offended Someone?
The MOFO Project/Object
Zappa - Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
"Congress Shall Make No Law..."
The Lost Episodes
Joe's Domage
Understanding America
The Mothers 1970
Zappatite
Joe's Camouflage
Mothermania
Joe's Xmasage
Frank Zappa For President
Mystery Disc
Joe's Corsage
Hot Rats Sessions
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The Dub Room Special
200 Motels
Baby Snakes
as far as recommendations, anything from the top 5 of my list, and i would say it depends on what you are looking for
Overnite Sensation is a good mix of styles and has some of his more classic songs
Hot Rats is purely instrumental, with one exception performance by captain beefheart, if you don't want the weird zappa lyrics, this is the one to do
SY or Apostrophe if you want more of the humor stuff
WOW, that's impressive. I'm not familiar with all the material on that list, but what I am familiar with, I can't quibble with your ordering.
Big fan of "Roxy and Elsewhere"; famously, it's how Phil Collins selected Chester Thompson to be his live cohort in Genesis.
Thank you! very kind to say. and yeah my autistic obsession with artists i really care about has paid off with Zappa, i have a bunch of reference books on him and stuff too. Totally agreed about the Chester Thompson anecdote BTW, i believe the performance was Don't You Ever Wash That Thing?
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I enjoy some of the Act albums/songs from TDH, but not enough to put them into my Top 50 even.
Zappa, I respect the man, but again his music is not quite for me it seems.
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TDH mostly hasn't particularly appealed to me yet, but there are a couple tracks I like, particularly "Waves".
Zappa's discography is daunting, but I've enjoyed most of what I've heard. Hot Rats especially.
No hits from my own list yet.
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Zappa’s my no.2.
Fair to say I own about 97% of his output.
Shut Up n Play Your Guitar is in my top 5 desert island discs.
I got into him via Vai.
There’s so much to love, and more than a little bit to be slightly embarrassed by, but he was so forthright about everything and owned all his humour, so I accept it all as ‘Frank’.
Burnt Weeny Sandwich is the pick of the early stuff.
Sheik Yerbouti is stellar.
One Size Fits All is a complete delight.
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1/2 today.
The Dear Hunter win the award for "best DTF discovery" for me. For the countless hundreds of bands you guys have helped subject me to, these guys take the crown. They are also one of only two bands to make my list that I discovered after 2010.
When I first became really active here it was around the time Act IV came out and after sampling some of their earlier albums (mainly as a Coheed fan, as I'd heard of the concept connecting the Acts albums, even if the concept is wildly different to Coheed's) I thought they were just OK. Act IV was a whole other level though. I still standby it being the best album I've discovered in the last decade. It's a flawless masterpiece to me, and Act V is only a few paces behind.
I went on to fall in love with The Colour Spectrum, and all their other albums, but those last two Acts albums, boy oh boy! My love for my band has dropped off a little with the last few releases but only because the style they play in Acts IV & V is so perfectly aligned with what I like.
I think one of the real main selling points is Casey's voice. He really is an incredible talent (and that's before we discuss his songwriting ability) and one of the best feelings is singing along with him.
Lastly, I just wanted to say that The Dear Hunter hold a special little place in my heart because I managed to get my Dad into them before he passed away and we managed to catch a show together 18 months before he died. That show meant a lot to me, and listening to the band always helps me feel a little closer to him in some ways. This was what he posted on Facebook the following morning...
"Last night me and Luke went to see an amazing band in Bristol. They're called The Dear Hunter. It's as if Zeppelin and Yes had a bastard child with balls of steel, three wonderful guitarists and a VOICE. Wow, what a voice, it soars and it swoops, it screams and soothes. Thank you Luke for a great night much love Dad xxxx"
:heart
So, onto Zappa. I don't have a great deal of experience with Zappa but what I do know also links into my Dad. The only Zappa album I know, I inherited from my Dad after he died. It is of course Hot Rats, and I enjoy it quite a bit. I did try more of his stuff around the time I joined DTF. I used to read through lots of the band discography threads, and read a lot of Nihil Morari's Zappa thread. There's just so much though right?! I guess I can sample an album or two in honour of this thread. If only I could find an extensive list of his albums somewhere, oh well.
Well, this is where I'm at now...
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Miles Davis
Symphony X
Agalloch
Scorpions
King Crimson
Frank Zappa
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Lastly, I just wanted to say that The Dear Hunter hold a special little place in my heart because I managed to get my Dad into them before he passed away and we managed to catch a show together 18 months before he died. That show meant a lot to me, and listening to the band always helps me feel a little closer to him in some ways. This was what he posted on Facebook the following morning...
"Last night me and Luke went to see an amazing band in Bristol. They're called The Dear Hunter. It's as if Zeppelin and Yes had a bastard child with balls of steel, three wonderful guitarists and a VOICE. Wow, what a voice, it soars and it swoops, it screams and soothes. Thank you Luke for a great night much love Dad xxxx"
:heart
I’m not crying, you are…
:heart :heart
Great memory!
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Just haven't dived into TDH much. Actually thinking of catching their upcoming show if work allows for it.
I am not a big TDH fan, mostly indifferent to The Acts albums, but The Color Spectrum (which isn't an Acts album) is an awesome album.
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Another 0/2 for me (got nothing so far!)
I do enjoy The Dear Hunter...very unique in their being "theatrical" but not too cheesy. At some point I also found a used DVD of their live Color Spectrum performance and it's really neat.
Frank Zappa is another weird one, in that over time I've got a bunch of his albums, overall enjoyed them and always telling myself I need to do more of a deep dive, but never end up doing it. Hovering's post might just provide the inspiration I need. BTW, I did have my first exposure with Strictly Commercial too, and found it to be an excellent introduction.
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Another 0/2 for me (got nothing so far!)
Same here.
Hey Reaper, you did get my list didn't you? :lol
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I didn't return in time to submit a list to this, but will be fun to follow.
None of the artists featured so far would have made my list. Zappa and King Crimson would have made my top 50 a decade ago, but I rarely listen to either anymore. Both still have certain songs/albums I love and will revisit, but it's not enough to push either into my top 50 anymore.
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I’m 1/8 so far, with Scorpions.
I am a fan of The Dear Hunter, Avenged Sevenfold and Symphony X and it’s probable than one or more of those bands would make my top 50.
I only have a couple of King Crimson albums, and they haven’t impacted me all that much.
I have always intended to check out some Zappa, but never got around to it. Will give a listen to the compilation that Jammindude recommended.
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I’m 1/8 so far, with Scorpions.
I am a fan of The Dear Hunter, Avenged Sevenfold and Symphony X and it’s probable than one or more of those bands would make my top 50.
I only have a couple of King Crimson albums, and they haven’t impacted me all that much.
I have always intended to check out some Zappa, but never got around to it. Will give a listen to the compilation that Jammindude recommended.
[Wayne’s World]
XANG!!! :tup
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Another 0/2 for me (got nothing so far!)
I do enjoy The Dear Hunter...very unique in their being "theatrical" but not too cheesy. At some point I also found a used DVD of their live Color Spectrum performance and it's really neat.
I agree with TDH being theatrical but not cheesy. Also, in all seriousness, if you ever want to part with that DVD, I'm interested!
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I didn't submit as found this one too hard but I would have been a zero so far. All good artists but none would have been that close to my own top 25. This is going to a really fascinating countdown as we get closer to the actual top 25....
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20. Avenged Sevenfold
9. The Dear Hunter
Absolutely love The Dear Hunter! Hardly listened to anything else for months when I first got into the band and the Acts in particular in 2015 or so. I'm a big fan of recurring motifs in music so to have developing musical ideas carry over from album to album was just mindblowing to me. I would suggest Act IV as a good starting point for people curious about the acts. There is of course a story to follow but it's told pretty cryptically for the most part and is definitely not a requirement to enjoy the music. Act I is unfortunately the weakest of the bunch even though that's where I started.
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Absolutely love The Dear Hunter! Hardly listened to anything else for months when I first got into the band and the Acts in particular in 2015 or so. I'm a big fan of recurring motifs in music so to have developing musical ideas carry over from album to album was just mindblowing to me. I would suggest Act IV as a good starting point for people curious about the acts. There is of course a story to follow but it's told pretty cryptically for the most part and is definitely not a requirement to enjoy the music. Act I is unfortunately the weakest of the bunch even though that's where I started.
I too am a big fan or recurring motifs (go figure, Coheed are my favourite band), and I second Act IV as the best starting point. As I said above, I consider it one of those flawless masterpieces, that is perfect beginning to end.
You lost me with your take on Act I thought. It is absolutely NOT the weakest! I know many will agree with you tbf, but to me the weakest is Act III. For one reason or another, that record just does not connect with me in the way the others do.
Also, going back to Act I, if you've not heard the "Live Recording" they did during COVID, on Pillar then you are missing out. It changed my view on the album and I now consider it the definitive version. It's been on streaming services the last few months, so go wild...
https://open.spotify.com/album/3dW2kN37rpgWWNg3v0HuCL?si=WAJjyJ2BSaOTyFaGLz6NEQ&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A3dW2kN37rpgWWNg3v0HuCL (https://open.spotify.com/album/3dW2kN37rpgWWNg3v0HuCL?si=WAJjyJ2BSaOTyFaGLz6NEQ&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A3dW2kN37rpgWWNg3v0HuCL)
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Lastly, I just wanted to say that The Dear Hunter hold a special little place in my heart because I managed to get my Dad into them before he passed away and we managed to catch a show together 18 months before he died. That show meant a lot to me, and listening to the band always helps me feel a little closer to him in some ways. This was what he posted on Facebook the following morning...
"Last night me and Luke went to see an amazing band in Bristol. They're called The Dear Hunter. It's as if Zeppelin and Yes had a bastard child with balls of steel, three wonderful guitarists and a VOICE. Wow, what a voice, it soars and it swoops, it screams and soothes. Thank you Luke for a great night much love Dad xxxx"
This is beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing it.
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Also, going back to Act I, if you've not heard the "Live Recording" they did during COVID, on Pillar then you are missing out. It changed my view on the album and I now consider it the definitive version. It's been on streaming services the last few months, so go wild...
I have listened to that, really great performance and definitely gave me a new appreciation for the album. His Hands Matched His Tongue has always been one of my favorite tracks as well. So it's not that I don't like act 1 but the other 4 are just so good!
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Also, going back to Act I, if you've not heard the "Live Recording" they did during COVID, on Pillar then you are missing out. It changed my view on the album and I now consider it the definitive version. It's been on streaming services the last few months, so go wild...
I have listened to that, really great performance and definitely gave me a new appreciation for the album. His Hands Matched His Tongue has always been one of my favorite tracks as well. So it's not that I don't like act 1 but the other 4 are just so good!
Oh yeah, I get it. I don't dislike Act III, it's just that the other 4 are some the best records I've ever heard.
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No tie today!
43. Evergrey
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 114,709
Highest Finish: 5 (Nachtmerrie)
Number of Lists appeared on: 6 (jingle.boy, wolfking, Nachtmerrie, Lethean, Evermind, nick_z)
I've seen the name get tossed around here, and perhaps I've heard a song or two but otherwise I'm completely unfamiliar with their music.
42. UFO
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 946,280
Highest Finish: 1 (TAC)
Number of Lists appeared on: 4 (pg1067, TAC, devieira73, Zoom E)
My dad was a big UFO fan but it never really did much for me personally. In the spirit of the countdown I'm going to give their stuff a listen to later today.
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I checked out UFO around this time last year. I liked what I heard, but never pursued it beyond a compilation album. Rock Bottom has a cool riff though.
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0/2 today.
These two were never gonna make my list and I've probably listened to a grand total of like 2 hours music for each of these bands.
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Evergray
I have a few albums and like them quite a bit but they would not reach my 50th
UFO
I have not listened to UFO and they are not rated.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO
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UFO would make a top 40 I reckon, even though Tim only got me into them a couple years ago. They will probably climb over time though. Amazing band.
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I'll post a more-detailed writeup when I'm back from work!
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Looking forward to it Evermind!
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Nice, my first hit!
I had Evergrey at #18. When I was putting my list together, I wasn't sure whether they'd crack the top 25. But the more I thought about it, the more they secured their place (I mean, they weren't even borderline, in the end!)
I've loved their music for a long time now - my first exposure was when I bought their Solitude Dominance Tragedy album as it was released. And I have to say that run from that one all the way to The Inner Circle is pretty incredible (In Search of Truth and Recreation Day being my favorites). I actually didn't mind Monday Morning Apocalypse. The lull kinda happened with Torn and Glorious Collision, although even those two have songs I enjoy. Then the "reunion" (of sorts) happened and, as was recently discussed, the band truly hit another impressive streak of records. They might not have the same dark/proggy magic as the earlier ones for me, but their consistency is something else.
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I own In Search of Truth, but I spun it a few times and I thought it was a big meh-burger. Never checked out anything else from Evergrey and I’m a bit surprised to see them here.
UFO is hit and miss with me. Really like some of their stuff, but I own Lights Out and I think it’s just OK. I have been wanting to check out Strangers in the Night though, so I will work on picking that up.
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No tie today!
43. Everygrey
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 114,709
Highest Finish: 5 (Nachtmerrie)
Number of Lists appeared on: 6 (jingle.boy, wolfking, Nachtmerrie, Lethean, Evermind, nick_z)
I've seen the name get tossed around here, and perhaps I've heard a song or two but otherwise I'm completely unfamiliar with their music.
42. UFO
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 946,280
Highest Finish: 1 (TAC)
Number of Lists appeared on: 4 (pg1067, TAC, devieira73, Zoom E)
My dad was a big UFO fan but it never really did much for me personally. In the spirit of the countdown I'm going to give their stuff a listen to later today.
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NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
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Another two that I am not familiar with, and so, did not rank. I have seen those names tossed around here before though but I'm not even sure what genres they are.
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Evergrey is really good. Everyone knows the classic three-album streak in the 00s, but I'd single out Glorious colission as an underrated one. The last several albums all have good stuff on them as well. I'd love to see them live again, I haven't attended a concert of theirs since 2008.
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never heard of either of today's bands, lol
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Never heard Everygrey until I checked out some of them just now. Not my style.
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Checked out some Evergrey, never really stood out to me. UFO is before my time but I do like Doctor Doctor.
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Ah, Evergrey - such an iconic band that nobody's even pointed out that Reaper misspelled it yet. :lol
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Ah, Evergrey - such an iconic band that nobody's even pointed out that Reaper misspelled it yet. :lol
Oops! Fixt. Sorry I do these before I head out to work so there could be good daily discussions but I'm often running on little to no coffee.
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Ah, Evergrey - such an iconic band that nobody's even pointed out that Reaper misspelled it yet. :lol
Oops! Fixt. Sorry I do these before I head out to work so there could be good daily discussions but I'm often running on little to no coffee.
Everygrey you shufflin'
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Everyone knows the classic three-album streak in the 00s
Sure about that? :rollin
I've probably listened to a grand total of like 2 hours music for each of these bands.
Heard of both bands but barely listened to either.
I own In Search of Truth...Never checked out anything else from Evergrey
I've seen the name get tossed around here, and perhaps I've heard a song or two but otherwise I'm completely unfamiliar with their music.
never heard of either of today's bands
Never listened to either band.
Never heard Everygrey until I checked out some of them just now.
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Let me correct that. Every fan of the band knows which three albums are considered the best. ;D
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In Search of Truth is my go-to.
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I'm finally on the board with Evergrey. :) And yes, the classic albums are great. But I also think the run they've had with Hymns for the Broken up to now has been really really good. Powerful, dark, and emotional, which is just what I want from them.
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I'm actually surprised to see Evergrey in the top 50. Evergrey is OK to me. Their classic albums are all fairly good, but my problem with them is Tom Englund's vocals.
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Ilm pleasantly surprised to see UFO make the top 40. I have them at number 10.
Didn’t realize they are your favourite band, TAC. Awesome.
I have one Evergrey album, but have never really connected with it.
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Im in the minority that really doesn't dig Tom's vocals.
UFO however kicks copious amounts of ass, and out out one of the best live albums of all time. They get a .5 for being on the fringe if making my top 25.
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Catching up, King Crimson just missed my top 25, but looking back, I think they should have been in there. I've missed on everything else though.
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Everyone knows the classic three-album streak in the 00s
Sure about that? :rollin
I've probably listened to a grand total of like 2 hours music for each of these bands.
Heard of both bands but barely listened to either.
I own In Search of Truth...Never checked out anything else from Evergrey
I've seen the name get tossed around here, and perhaps I've heard a song or two but otherwise I'm completely unfamiliar with their music.
never heard of either of today's bands
Never listened to either band.
Never heard Everygrey until I checked out some of them just now.
:rollin
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Although Evergrey has been a little samey lately, it's great output to be same about imo. Agree that Torn/GC was a little bit of a lull in their discography, and the debut is decent enough, but everything else is top shelf stuff. Tom's voice is great - I like his stuff with Redemption, and Dovorian. Silent Skies is a nice softer side of him, so there's the variety I need from his voice. They've put out some great live releases, and the 2005 Night to Remember show is fucking tits. Jonas on When the Walls go Down is simply incredible. Tom's also an under-rated guitarist. Henrik always delivers and they collectively have a great stage presence.
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Lastly, I just wanted to say that The Dear Hunter hold a special little place in my heart because I managed to get my Dad into them before he passed away and we managed to catch a show together 18 months before he died. That show meant a lot to me, and listening to the band always helps me feel a little closer to him in some ways. This was what he posted on Facebook the following morning...
"Last night me and Luke went to see an amazing band in Bristol. They're called The Dear Hunter. It's as if Zeppelin and Yes had a bastard child with balls of steel, three wonderful guitarists and a VOICE. Wow, what a voice, it soars and it swoops, it screams and soothes. Thank you Luke for a great night much love Dad xxxx"
:heart
I’m not crying, you are…
:heart :heart
Great memory!
Is it dusty in here? Allergies! That's it! Allergies!!!
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Had to tug on those heart strings. If I can't share that sort of story here then where can I? You guys get it more than most.
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Symphony X
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Allagoch
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Ya know, UFO is the EPITOME of what's wrong with rankings. I LOVE UFO. I really do (thanks, TAC!) and I listen to them frequently. But there are only so many spots. I don't want to spotlight, but if you saw the eight bands between them and "25" you'd be amazed. They were one of those that I was like "they're ranked WHAT?" but I just couldn't move anyone else down.
I've gotten Evergrey in a couple of roulettes and really liked them, I just haven't sat down and really dug in and listened to them, though.
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Really loved UFO - Love to Love when I've got it in my roulette. Didn't go checking the band further for some reason.
Now, for Evergrey! I've become a fan relatively late, precisely 9 years ago (I was 21) when their masterpiece—as far as I'm concerned—came out, Hymns for the Broken. I think I knew of them before, and I enjoyed songs from their classic In Search of Truth - Recreation Day - The Inner Circle run, but the reunion release really prompted me to check their work out further. I remember they released their first single from that album, King of Errors with the album intro sewn into the track, and when the wall of sound came in, I was hooked almost instantly.
Not only Hymns made me revisit their classic albums so I began to appreciate them more and more, the band continued to put out quality releases. The Storm Within was a little step down from the previous record, but I suddenly had an opportunity to see them in a small club in Siegburg, Germany during my European vacation for Ayreon in 2017. It was an incredibly small club/bar, we stood in the second row directly in front of Tom (we were front row in the beginning but we allowed shorter people to pass to the rail), they opened with Distance, and the rest of the show is a blur—we sang along (all ~100 of us), we cheered, I was amazed how a band of such caliber can perform in such a small venue and still give it all to the performance. One of my most memorable concerts (I'll be saying this a lot if my bands keep popping up in this list).
(somewhat related - by the way, the opener for that show was Need (Greek prog metal band which I also was a fan of, thanks to RJ, LadyObscure and DTF). Their music is about as sad as Evergrey, so if you liked them, check out Mother Madness (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouJ89fY6JFE) and Norchestrion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiR9_wdbZhk) from them if you wish)
Back to Evergrey, I thought they were falling back into a rut with The Atlantic, but then they released Escape of the Phoenix which as far as I'm concerned is their new Hymns. That album (featuring James LaBrie on one song btw) hit all the sweet spots for me and made me revisit their entire discography again, to the point I was spinning something by Evergrey every grey week. Their new album is solid too, if not as spectacular as their highest achievements, and for me they have at least 10 albums ranging from solid to extremely awesome.
I seem to really like my progressive metal with a tinge of sadness, gloom and depression, and Evergrey fits that spot like a glove.
I'll put recommended listening from Hymns and Escape of the Phoenix, and someone can do the classic albums if they wish.
Recommended post-2014 Evergrey songs: In the Absence of Sun (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYuV5xqtSDI), Hymns for the Broken (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NQX6Vb0hQA), The Aftermath (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fmvQP3hgGc), The Beholder (ft. James LaBrie) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pri2xexyTB0)
If you want a full album: Evergrey - Hymns for the Broken (https://open.spotify.com/album/5hkz3gAIafL4aJpUUsfBrl)
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A7X (my # 23) is great and still evolving stylistically. Really surprising band, very different albums and hard to see their next steps. The run from City of Evil to Life Is But a Dream... is excellent, being Nightmare still my fave from all of theirs. Just to point out, in Hail to the King, A7X trys too hard to be like their idols (kings?), but still is a very strong album in quality (but not in personality).
Love, love UFO (my #9), very influential in my rock taste, specially their run from Phenomenom to Making Contact, being Obsession my fave. After that period, I would still recommed High Stakes & Dangerous Men, Walk on Water, Covenant and You Are Here. Classic, top quality hard rock.
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Thanks for the post Evermind cool read.
I am sitting here baffled how I missed them from my original list of 25. When saw they made the 50 I was convinced I finally had an entry checked my sent list but they were nowhere to be found, honestly can't explain how I missed them and looking at my own list they definitely should've been there ???
I agree with almost everything you posted except IMO The Atlantic was immense and felt Phoenix was a little by the numbers albeit contains one of their finest songs since their heyday in August Mourn. Just epic :metal
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I was a big fan of Evergrey's in the 00s, fell off for awhile in the 10s, but have really been getting back into them again more heavily in the last few years. I definitely thought about them for my list, and they could be in the honorable mentions, we'll see. Recreation Day is definitely my favorite of theirs. I think I'm much higher on Torn than most people as well, some really killer tracks on that one, the main riff to "Fear" is killer.
I'm a more casual UFO fan. I've heard a number of albums, really enjoy some of the hits ("Rock Bottom" has one of my favorite guitar riffs to play), but there's certainly a ton left to explore.
the 2005 Night to Remember show is fucking tits.
Indeed, and the small backing vocal section really elevates that concert in particular.
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Evermind, great post. I think Recreation Day is probably my favorite album of theirs, like Litho, but I love their more recent material as well. Glad to read your thoughts on it, and especially your concert experience. I've been lucky that they're a favorite of the ProgPower USA promoter, so I've seen them quite a few times, and they always bring it. I also saw them tour with Need in the US and that was an awesome show.
I like The Atlantic a lot. I realized I don't know the song titles of their recent stuff all that well - I just play the albums and enjoy them. But I remember Weightless being a favorite of mine from The Atlantic if anyone wants a recommendation. I think that was a single too. Also Currents - maybe not an obvious choice but I'd often repeat that one.
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And Currents isn't an odd choice in my books Lethean great choice. For me it's these two plus The Beacon and Departure for the highlights but IMO there's nothing to skip, The Atlantic is the balls \m/
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40t. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
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I've known about GY!BE for a while thanks to this forum but it was only within the last year that I gave them a proper listen. Luciferian Towers was the the album that really got me into them and I think it might be my favorite record of theirs.
40t. Nightwish
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I've heard of the Nightwish and that's about it :lol
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Only thing I've heard from Godspeed is Dead Flag Blues. Which is an interesting song, but not something I go back to frequently.
Nightwish, like most music in that vein, just makes me cringe.
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40t. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
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I've known about GY!BE for a while thanks to this forum but it was only within the last year that I gave them a proper listen. Luciferian Towers was the the album that really got me into them and I think it might be my favorite record of theirs.
40t. Nightwish
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I've heard of the Nightwish and that's about it :lol
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And another pair of bands not on my list. I've heard a bit of Nightwish before but have not gotten into them. And as for Godspeed You! Black Emperor, don't think I've heard a single note or song.
Ten bands in and I haven't hit a single one in my top 25. I'm beginning to think none of my list made it. :rollin
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I discovered Nightwish when I was 13 years old through my cousin (who is 5 years older than me and in no time we became friends and is like a brother to me, I consider him family basically), and it was 2006 or 2007 (I think it was right around the Dark Passion Play release) and we had no way to follow the news, so at that point Tarja was still the singer for us, and we were both blown away by the music and the operatic vocals. Yeah, the first album was rough, but everything from Oceanborn to Once was gold. I especially liked Over the Hills and Far Away (I had no idea it was a Gary Moore cover), Phantom of the Opera (I had no idea it was an Andrew-Lloyd Webber cover), and Walking in the Air (I had no idea it too was a cover) :lol But the actual albums were also good (we didn't have any spare money so we downloaded them from a certain Russian torrent-tracker site).
Then Dark Passion Play came out in 2007 and it was... alright? It wasn't as good as what came before for the 14 years old me, so I shelved that album somewhere on my 40 GB Maxtor HDD and continued to listen to Tarja albums. In fact, I've been spinning the first Tarja solo album, My Winter Storm far more than Dark Passion Play (see recommended tracks below). Then came out Storytime, the first single from the upcoming new album, and the teenager me thought it was utter shit. I basically gave up on Nightwish back then.
Fast forward a couple of years (I think it was 2013), and I bought the Imaginaerum digipack in the online store while shopping for Sonata Arctica albums (look at me not pirating music anymore). I'm not sure I've even listened to it, perhaps just ripped it to my PC and uploaded it on my phone and forgot about it. Then, I think it was winter, perhaps 2013 or 2014, I was around 21 years old, I was going back home by a train and it was snowing and I was dead tired and I'm not sure if I just put the playlist on random or put the whole album on, but I remember waking when Turn Loose the Mermaids—a song from Imaginaerum was blasting through my headphones and that was the moment I really appreciated the magic. I found it so delightful! That made me pay attention to the rest of the album, and that winter, it clicked. Now it's the winter album for me, and my favourite Nightwish overall. My only regret is that I missed the Moscow show for Imaginaerum tour.
Soon, Nightwish got Floor Jansen as their singer and I had high hopes for that arrangement, but for some reason the two albums they released with Floor, while perfectly alright, aren't quite on the same level as Anette-era for me, songwriting-wise. I enjoyed Endless Forms Most Beautiful, bought an earbook (a vinyl-sized book) and did a meet-and-greet with Nightwish during their 2015 Moscow show, where I've got the book signed by everyone (Marko also signed my The Theory of Everything digibook). I've got a really awkward photo with the band there somewhere - I was 1) fairly fat 2) standing as far from the band as possible :lol but it was a good time. The concert was also awesome (my highlight was The Siren) and I've caught a pick from Emppu which I still have.
Human : )}|| | | | | ||{( : Nature was also solid—I thought the ideas behind the songs were interesting—but I can't help but think Tuomas hit his creative peak somewhere inbetween 2001 and 2011 for Century Child - Imaginaerum run. I had the tickets for the Human Nature tour, but Covid happened, then Russia decided to invade Ukraine so the concert was (understandably) cancelled and by the way I've yet to see my money (~$30 with the current price of rouble) returned. :lol
But still, I've been listening to Nightwish for 17 years now, and I don't plan to stop. Their music was my companion through all the shit I've gone through, and I still rock out to Planet Hell or Last Ride of the Day, and I still can't stop the tears coming to my eyes when I listen to the ending of Song of Myself. I know there are more influential bands out there, but this band was, and still is, so influential to my own life I couldn't place them any lower.
Recommended songs (two from each singer): Planet Hell (Tarja) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce71ToVVxts), Ever Dream (Tarja) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXqncMe3wew), Last Ride of the Day (Anette) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYnZxMT-UOk), Meadows of Heaven (Anette) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY9VI2B71bk), Weak Fantasy (Floor) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq4QY0LGOiI), How's the Heart? (Floor) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8vuyd9M2LU)
If you want a full album: Nightwish - Century Child (Tarja) (https://open.spotify.com/album/2fmfAN3tCHMIU8WZuG35ZK) or Nightwish - Imaginaerum (Anette) (https://open.spotify.com/album/7lUxbRgHGomu4raRe59qTK)
Bonus solo-Tarja recommendations from My Winter Storm: Boy and the Ghost (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvuEbm7GT8c), I Walk Alone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZEqulOoJ6s)
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GY!BE wouldn't have my top 50, but I do love some of their work, even if I don't revisit it much these days.
No comment on today's other featured artist.
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GY!BE wouldn't have my top 50, but I do like some of their work, even if I don't revisit it much these days.
FTFM.
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GY!BE - I really liked f♯ a♯ ∞ but haven't checked their other stuff. Any recommendations?
Lift Your Skinny Fists is my favorite.
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Awesome write up Evermind, I'm going to check out some Nightwish later today.
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I really like Nightwish, but I generally feel like there are other bands who do various aspects of what they do better, so I didn't consider them. Wishmaster is an incredible album though, and in retrospect was a critical part of getting into both power metal and the Euro metal scene in the early 00s, which led to so many other discoveries. I had a friend across the country that I talked to regularly online then and exposed me to them and many other groups. I was ecstatic when Floor joined since I'd loved her work in Star One/Ayreon and After Forever. Some of her renditions of earlier songs are fantastic on the live album Showtime, Storytime, particularly "Storytime" and "She Is My Sin", although I found the studio albums with her quite disappointing, as Tuomas doesn't seem to know how to employ her talents effectively.
Godspeed You! Black Emperor was one of those mythical bands I kept hearing about for awhile, and were my first toe into the post-rock scene. I came to adore much of the early albums, though the reunion ones pale in comparison for me. Any of F♯A♯∞, Lift Yr. Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven!, the Slow Riot for New Zerø Kanada EP, or Slow Riot for New Zerø Kanada E.P., are essential, though anyone who hasn't heard anything similar is probably going to need some acclimation to their sound, as it's quite a departure from more conventional rock bands. They didn't make my list, but are a candidate for my honorable mentions.
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Great story Ruslan. As for my indoctrination to them, I pulled this from the "5 albums that changed your life" thread. I was listening to some online streaming service back in '04, and Planet Hell popped on. The symphony and chants start warming up, and I'm thinking "interesting ..." Then the song kicks in :omg:. I take notice, and love Marco's first verse. Then Tarja comes in :omg: :omg:. I'm wow'd in a way that I've not been wow'd before. Symphonic metal and operatic vocals were not on my radar in 2004. Wow... that combination ... + Marco`s coarse (but not grunge or death) vocals, I was hooked. It was also the realization that fantastic music wasn't only produced by US/Canadian/UK bands. With that, my tastes started expanding to non North American bands - Ayreon, Circus Maximus, Blind Guardian, Angra, Freedom Call, Frost*, Vanden Plas etc... This was the song/album/band that really ignited my insatiable appetite for music discovery.
I'm with you Ruslan... the creativity from Tuomas just isn't there anymore - at least not in a way that appeals to me. Planet Hell is just *chef's kiss*. I absolutely adore the End of an Era version - especially Tarja's stage presence. As a new fan, I did not know the backstory of that show, and I find it comical to watch the looks on Tuomas' face ... as if "haha, you're so fucking fired after the show, bitch". :lol
@Litho ... you nailed it
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Both bands I enjoy some of, but weren't really in the running for my list.
GY!BE: Like I said before, their early material is fantastic, especially Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven! and Slow Riot For New Zero Kanada EP, both of which are both among my absolute favorite albums and EPs, respectively. Unfortunately, all of their most-reunion stuff doesn't do much for me. They used to have such a magical, clear sound with lots of space between the instruments and carefully-composed songs where instruments would only come in when they needed to. The sound of their newer stuff, inversely, is super drone-y, muddy, and uh... "brown sounding" to me. There's still moments of beauty, for sure, but the thick layers of scuzziness don't do their music any favors in my opinion.
Nightwish: Once is a good album. Cheesey as it may be, Ghost Love Score is an absolute fucking banger and a masterclass of the symphonic metal sound. I also quite like Dark Chest Of Wonders and Planet Hell (remember the Falador Massacre, anyone?). I've enjoyed individual songs from other albums, but I haven't had much motivation to fully dive into any of them, and the ones I have heard in full like Dark Passion Play and Imaginaerum haven't exactly won me over.
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I'm honestly really surprised to see Godspeed this high, but it is a pleasant surprise. I've been aware of the band for years but only started to get into them properly after the release of their latest (which is actually my favourite). They are a cool band that reward you with the time you put into them. Generally their albums are lengthy affairs, and not the sort that you appreciate fully on first listen. A post-rock band like this were never going to make my list though. I was discussing this with Evermind, Sacul and Vmadera00 in the Deepcut.fm session last night, but my favourite artists generally produce high energy music that I can sing along to, or air drum/guitar. This ain't it, but I also love seeing good atmospheric albums, just not as frequently.
As to Nightwish, not a band I ever got into, and I think in part it's due to my general preference to listen to male vocalists. Are know there are others on the forum who listen to very few female fronted bands, and I'm one of them. I will say though, that Dark Chest of Wonders is a badass song. I first heard it on a Kerrang! cover CD back in '05 (it also introduced me to In Flames, Trivium and NOFX), and it has remained (and still remains) on every mp3 player I've had for the last 18 years.
Great write ups as well guys, this really is a good spread of bands, love it.
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Nightwish is awesome. Actually surprised they aren't higher on this forum.
What worries me more is that if they are this low, I'm skeptical anything in their blast radius is going to be on the list at all.
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Nightwish is awesome. Actually surprised they aren't higher on this forum.
What worries me more is that if they are this low, I'm skeptical anything in their blast radius is going to be on the list at all.
Oh yeah. Guaranteed there will be no symphonic/operatic/female-fronted metal higher than Nightwish.
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Nightwish is awesome. Actually surprised they aren't higher on this forum.
What worries me more is that if they are this low, I'm skeptical anything in their blast radius is going to be on the list at all.
Oh yeah. Guaranteed there will be no symphonic/operatic/female-fronted metal higher than Nightwish.
I am okay with this.
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Some years back Godspeed would have landed a few places higher on the strength of their flawless first 3 releases (F#, Slow Riot and Skinny Fists) but I agree with people above who said their post-reunion albums have lacked the magic of their earlier work. There's still good music on the more recent albums (Mladic, Anthem For No State, Government Came, Piss Crowns Are Trebled), but none of it has the ingenuity of tracks like Storm, Sleep or Providence.
Nightwish snuck onto my list at the last minute when I decided that, even though I rarely listen to them nowadays, they were way too important a band of my youth to leave off. Wishmaster is still one of the most important albums to my musical development, it rarely left my portable CD player (remember those?) in the early 2000s.
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And Currents isn't an odd choice in my books Lethean great choice. For me it's these two plus The Beacon and Departure for the highlights but IMO there's nothing to skip, The Atlantic is the balls \m/
:metal Awesome. I'm still psyched about them making the top 50.
As for Nightwish, I've never really been a fan (but I enjoyed your post Evermind). The only version I dislike is the Tarja era - I've found some stuff with Annette and Floor to be enjoyable, even if I've never really gotten into it.
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I'm 0-fer through the first 12, and there are very few bands on the list so far that I've spent much time listening to.
Greatly respect Miles Davis, and jazz in general, but there are very few jazz musicians or groups that I find myself really enjoying.
King Crimson is a band I've tried with, but it's never totally clicked. I know ITCOTCK is a legendary album, but I find it hard to get through as a whole. I need to give some more time to Red and Discipline. I like what I've heard from those.
I saw Nightwish in concert once. Good show, just not a style of music I could get deep into.
I have literally never heard of Agalloch until they appeared in this thread. :lol
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I'm 0-fer through the first 12, and there are very few bands on the list so far that I've spent much time listening to.
Greatly respect Miles Davis, and jazz in general, but there are very few jazz musicians or groups that I find myself really enjoying.
King Crimson is a band I've tried with, but it's never totally clicked. I know ITCOTCK is a legendary album, but I find it hard to get through as a whole. I need to give some more time to Red and Discipline. I like what I've heard from those.
I saw Nightwish in concert once. Good show, just not a style of music I could get deep into.
I have literally never heard of Agalloch until they appeared in this thread. :lol
It has some moments, but I don’t find In The Court of the Crimson King to be one of the stronger KC albums. Red is probably the best of the 70s albums, and Discipline or Beat would be the ones I’d recommend from the 80s (Beat is my favorite). It takes being in a certain frame of mind to enjoy KC though. It’s kind of more music that you think about than that you feel (although Starless will make you feel things).
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39. Katatonia
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 339,524
Highest Finish: 1 (LithoJazzoSphere, Lethean)
Number of Lists appeared on: 4 (LithoJazzoSphere, Lethean, Evermind, nick_Z)
My first impression of Katatonia was that they were Opeth :lol. I remember them coming up on Spotify radio and I thought it was an Opeth song I hadn't heard before. After realizing it's not actually Opeth I gave a listen to Night Is The New Day and really dug it. They didn't make my life but they were a contender.
38. Helloween
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 1,280,613
Highest Finish: 5 (TAC)
Number of Lists appeared on: 5 (pg1067, TAC, wolfking, Evermind, Zoom E)
I've heard approximately one Helloween song, and it's the one I got in a roulette, I think from TAC. I liked it, I just haven't had time to check them out more.
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Two more I’m only vaguely familiar with, but have heard enough about on this forum to not be surprised that they made it this high.
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39. Katatonia
Highest Finish: 1 (LithoJazzoSphere, Lethean)
38. Helloween
Highest Finish: 5 (TAC)
Yeah that tracks. :lol
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Katatonia is one of those rare bands on my list that (not counting the classic ones) I never managed to catch live. They were playing here for The Fall of Hearts tour I think, but it was Monday and I decided to catch them next time as I wasn't that much of a fan back then. Look how that turned out. :lol They absolutely grew on me like crazy during the pandemic, and City Burials was amazing too.
Helloween is outstanding, I'm just not as big into them right now as I was five-ten years ago. Keepers are still classic, and the Deris era has a lot of hits and a lot of misses for me. The reunion album is very solid. I saw them live on Straight out of Hell tour, My God-Given Right tour (it was a festival with Arkona, Dark Tranquility, Primal Fear and Amorphis I think, with Helloween as a headliner) and during the reunion tour (awesome). I think I also saw them touring with Gamma Ray but it might've been the Straight out of Hell tour. They're always pretty solid live.
I'll let Tim and Lizzo/Lethean to post the recommended tracks for these two.
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Not sure why but they have never really shown on my radar.
Should perhaps give them a listen
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39. Katatonia
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 339,524
Highest Finish: 1 (LithoJazzoSphere, Lethean)
Number of Lists appeared on: 4 (LithoJazzoSphere, Lethean, Evermind, nick_Z)
My first impression of Katatonia was that they were Opeth :lol. I remember them coming up on Spotify radio and I thought it was an Opeth song I hadn't heard before. After realizing it's not actually Opeth I gave a listen to Night Is The New Day and really dug it. They didn't make my life but they were a contender.
38. Helloween
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 1,280,613
Highest Finish: 5 (TAC)
Number of Lists appeared on: 5 (pg1067, TAC, wolfking, Evermind, Zoom E)
I've heard approximately one Helloween song, and it's the one I got in a roulette, I think from TAC. I liked it, I just haven't had time to check them out more.
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And another pair of bands not on my list... I feel like I've said this so many times and I'm sure I'll say it again. I've definitely seen these names around here before, though! :lol
-Marc.
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Catching up on the last couple of days
Godspeed...is one of those bands I've heard/read about many times and, somehow, never checked out. Maybe this will be the time :)
Nightwish are pretty great. They were never really in the running for my list, but I always enjoy their albums when I put them on. It's kinda crazy how they went from relatively humble beginnings to one of the biggest "just outside of mainstream" metal bands. To their credit, they were in on the symphonic, female-fronted genre from the very beginning. Sure, their style shifted over time, but it's undeniable they were prime movers. I have a particularly soft spot for Oceanborn, which I prefer to Wishmaster. Not a huge fan of Century Child. Once was a great breakthrough, for sure. As good as Tarja was, I actually felt Anette's voice worked great for what they were going for on Dark Passion Play and Imaginaerum. I also agree with the general sentiment expressed here that the studio work with Floor has been slightly disappointing so far, given the potential they have with such a powerhouse vocalist.
As for today's bands - I have a top 10! Obviously LOVE Katatonia, and have talked at length about that in the ongoing discography thread (by the way: I figured they were Lethean's #1, but I don't know if I realized they were Litho's #1 too). Interestingly, though, I don't think they would have been a top 10 in my list a few years ago. I mean, I always loved their stuff, and and I was massively into them with their earlier records and reaching a peak with Last Fair Deal/Viva Emptiness. Then, for some reason, I lost touch with them a bit. Didn't become quite as attached to Night is the New Day/Dead End Kings/Fall of Hearts when they came out. But then, while my favorite period is still their early 00s output, I've gained full appreciation for basically everything they've done. And their last two records are fantastic in my book. Excited for their upcoming gig in November!
Helloween: didn't make my list, but it's another band I'm fond of. They never made the "pantheon" of my very favorites - I'm not always a fan of the "happy German metal" vibes they so proudly wear. But it's undeniable they created a whole new scene and they are among the very best doing what they do. Pretty crazy career too, with some head-scratchers, but plenty of classics. The Keepers are obviously among the latter. I've come to truly appreciate the EP/Walls of Jericho combo over the years - there is some speed metal influence there that's super-tasty. Big fan of the first couple of records with Deris - especially Time of the Oath. The reunion self-titled was pretty great too. Enjoyed it a ton when it came out.
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39. Katatonia
Highest Finish: 1 (LithoJazzoSphere, Lethean)
38. Helloween
Highest Finish: 5 (TAC)
Yeah that tracks. :lol
It certainly does :lol
Litho and I shared lists before this started and I said to him that Katatonia have a really good shot as they have 50 points from him and Lethean straight out the gate!
I'll post thoughts later.
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Helloween is fantastic. They would have made my top fifteen. :metal
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I don't totally hate Katatonia, but I'm not sure I would ever proactively reach for them to listen to. There's some music in there that I enjoy well enough.
I've given Helloween a try a few times, just doesn't seem to click. :dunno:
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I like Helloween, but I'm a pretty casual fan and there's plenty of their work I'm not familiar with. Kiske's voice seems to have aged much better than other guys from his era, and their 3-lead format with Deris and Hansen on their previous album was a lot of fun.
Katatonia is a band that I think really takes a lot of time to truly appreciate. I found something intriguing about them right away, but it took a good dozen years or so to ascend to being my favorite band. Obviously Lethean and I have been running a discussion thread gradually going through their entire discography, which is nearing the end, but it's not too late to join, and there is plenty to read earlier for anyone in the mood.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=57875.0 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=57875.0)
Trying to figure out what to suggest to listen to is quite a tall task, it really depends upon your other genre preferences. Here I'd probably recommend trying The Fall of Hearts, as it's the proggiest thing they've ever done, and isn't worlds removed from some of Porcupine Tree's heavier, darker material, for example. A couple years ago I came up with a suggested track list that highlights the variety of different sounds they've explored over the years (sounding like quite radically different bands at times), which I've turned into a Spotify list. If you don't like one particular track, just dip in elsewhere, not many bands have gone through as many subtle changes as they have. It's chronological, so maybe avoid the first three tracks if you don't like extreme metal.
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5M8R1nSX5klmsNfeA1phOM (https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5M8R1nSX5klmsNfeA1phOM)
If you have time for just one song, try "Serac".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyNrm457Pvw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyNrm457Pvw)
My first impression of Katatonia was that they were Opeth :lol . I remember them coming up on Spotify radio and I thought it was an Opeth song I hadn't heard before.
They're definitely very closely related bands, with Mikael Akerfeldt doing most of the vocals on Katatonia's Brave Murder Day, and Katatonia occasionally writing rather Opeth-like songs such as "Idle Blood".
To their credit, they were in on the symphonic, female-fronted genre from the very beginning.
Technically speaking I'd say they were more the inflection point at which the female lead went from guest spots/backing vocals/co-leads to being the primary focus. Celtic Frost, Therion, Paradise Lost, The Gathering, Theatre of Tragedy and others had dabbled in it years before, but they and Within Temptation made them more of the starring role, with The Third and the Mortal, The Gathering with Anneke and Lacuna Coil being key contributors in less symphonic genres. And they also heavily brought in the power metal propulsion in their first few albums, paving the way for so many others. I'm pretty sure you already know all this, I'm just clarifying for everyone else. :)
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Litho and I shared lists before this started and I said to him that Katatonia have a really good shot as they have 50 points from him and Lethean straight out the gate!
Yeah, and it occurs to me that Reaper hasn't been posting point totals. Any chance he could add those?
I wasn't sure anyone else would have them in their top 25 though, and wasn't sure how many votes it would take to get into the top 50, given 40-some people have voted. I imagine you'll need well over 100 to get into the top 25.
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I've never heard of Helloween.
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Katatonia are alright. I think I only listened to Helloween once, when Tim sent me a track kinda as a joke on a roulette :lol
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Helloween had an amazing window of excellence - and the best pipes in the game - according to this old piece of flatulence.
In 1988 they managed to pump out the metal album of the year, Justice and Seventh Son notwithstanding.
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Funny you mentioned "Idle Blood" Litho, that was the song I heard that made me think it was Opeth.
I'll post point totals and final artist list at the end of the countdown.
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I've never heard of Helloween.
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NR Miles Davis (Would probably make my top 100 even though I've only heard less than half of his stuff. Favorite albums are probably In a Silent Way and Get Up With It)
NR King Crimson (Another that would make my top 100, maybe even top 50. Favorite albums, Red and Discipline)
NR Avenged Sevenfold (A top 50 band most likely. Favorite albums, City of Evil and The Stage)
NR Scorpions (A top 100 band. One of my dad's favorite bands. Favorite albums, Taken By Force and Love At First Sting)
NR Frank Zappa (Kind of the same situation as Miles Davis, except Frank has some stuff that I absolutely don't like, so probably wouldn't be a top 100 artist. Favorite albums, Joe's Garage and Hot Rats)
NR Evergrey (As I mentioned earlier they have some decent albums and their latest may actually be my favorite, but I still don't like Tom Englund's vocals)
NR UFO (A band that I haven't listened to enough. I keep intending on doing a deep dive. I do really like the album Walk On Water)
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor (A band that had 3 masterpieces to start and on the strength of those would have made my top 50, but everything they've done since has been fairly bland)
NR Nightwish (A band that I strongly considered for my initial list and might be in my top 50. Favorite albums, Dark Passion Play and Once
NR Katatonia (A top 100 band easily. Favorite albums, Brave Murder Day and The Fall of Hearts)
NR Helloween (Another top 100 band even though they have about 7 terrible albums. Favorite albums, Keeper of the Seven Keys (both parts) and Gambling With the Devil)
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Funny you mentioned "Idle Blood" Litho, that was the song I heard that made me think it was Opeth.
Yep, Idle Blood could totally be a mellow Opeth song
To their credit, they were in on the symphonic, female-fronted genre from the very beginning.
Technically speaking I'd say they were more the inflection point at which the female lead went from guest spots/backing vocals/co-leads to being the primary focus. Celtic Frost, Therion, Paradise Lost, The Gathering, Theatre of Tragedy and others had dabbled in it years before, but they and Within Temptation made them more of the starring role, with The Third and the Mortal, The Gathering with Anneke and Lacuna Coil being key contributors in less symphonic genres. And they also heavily brought in the power metal propulsion in their first few albums, paving the way for so many others. I'm pretty sure you already know all this, I'm just clarifying for everyone else. :)
Yeah, I was specifically thinking of that symphonic/power-adjacent sound that started popping up all over the place. I agree that there had been several examples of bands where female vocals became the focal point, but when I think of The Gathering, Lacuna Coil etc. (despite the very significant difference among those very bands), I'm thinking more of a darker/gothic/melancholic approach, as opposed to a "bombastic" power/orchestral approach, as you said. I guess Nightwish's debut Angels Fall First, interestingly, was more in that vein (in fact I remember reviews at the time were likening it a bit to The Gathering...). But already with Oceanborn it was, for the most part, a whole different sound.
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Hey Reaper, can you do this again next year so I can change my list? :lol
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Sure! :lol
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A top 50 albums countdown would be awesome in the future. I'll be doing my own personal one in the not distant future. A top 50 songs one would probably be the death of me though.
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I thought about a top 50 albums but I'm not sure how well that would tbh. People have such varied music taste and even those who like the same bands may like different albums.
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Helloween, very nice. Been a fan for more than 20 years now. I actually discovered the band through the Deris era, which is still my fav. Wonderful band. Great to see them here.
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Helloween, very nice. Been a fan for more than 20 years now. I actually discovered the band through the Deris era, which is still my fav. Wonderful band. Great to see them here.
What’s your favorite of the Deris era?
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Well I am obviously very happy that Katatonia made the top 50. :)
I completely agree with Litho that Katatonia is a band that needs to grow on you. Neither of us discovered them and then immediately had them as a favorite. For me it was slow and then fast and then slow again - it took me a long time to develop a kind of obsession, then I wanted to hear everything at once and consume it all and really know all of the albums but I don't absorb music that fast so I had to back off and chill a bit.
But it was worth it and Katatonia is music that I experience in a different way than anything else. When I go on a Rush binge or I see Leprous or Dream Theater live or they have a new album out, sometimes I question myself and think no, DT or Rush is really my favorite but when the dust settles it's Katatonia and has been for a while now.
Helloween is cool. Not on my list, but what I've heard is good. Plus I like the pumpkins. :)
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42. UFO
Never heard of Evergrey. UFO is awesome. I'm not familiar with the entire catalog, but the Schenker years were something special, and Strangers in the Night is possibly my favorite live album ever.
40t. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
40t. Nightwish
Never heard of Godspeed. I've heard OF Nightwish but know nothing about them.
39. Katatonia
38. Helloween
If I've heard of Katatonia, I don't remember. Helloween is amazing, and I'm disappointed that they made so few lists. Still amazing live after all these years.
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Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia
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Couple more bands, number of lists appeared on is starting to grow:
37. Between The Buried And Me
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 140,619
Highest Finish: 8 (King Puppies and the Acid Guppies)
Number of Lists appeared on: 8 (coz, romdrums, wolfking, Dave_Manchester, jammindude, King Puppies and the Acid Guppies, Buddyhunter1, SomeoneLikeHim)
I've tried to get into BTBAM and there certainly some songs I like but I rarely go out of my way to listen to them.
36. Anathema
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 278,938
Highest Finish: 1 (Sacul)
Number of Lists appeared on: 7 (LithoJazzoSphere, King Puppies and the Acid Guppies, PMSummer, Buddyhunter1, Sacul, elefantStone, nick_z)
Similar situation as BTBAM although I like a chunk of Anathema's music more. One of my favorite Anathema moments is the guitar solo in "Universal" from the live release.
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Between the Buried and Me
Another one that I should probably give a listen.
Anathema
They are definitely on my list although not in the top 25. Possibly around 50 or so.
I have 5 of their albums and saw them live on the Optimist tour supported by Alcest. A great evening of music.
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Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
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20. Avenged Sevenfold
9. The Dear Hunter
BTBAM just snuck into my list at #25, great band that I kinda have to be in the mood for. Sometimes it's too intense and chaotic and other times no albums scratch the itch quite as well as Colors. Definitely expanded my horizons a bit when I got into them. Also one of the best live shows I've seen when I saw them on the Coma Ecliptic tour in 2016. :metal
I really like Anathema as well, just haven't explored them as deeply. Weather Systems and We're Here because We're Here are both wonderful albums.
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Anathema almost made my list. Probably somewhere around ~30th.
BTBAM wasn't in consideration.
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BTBAM... not my thing.
I enjoy what I've heard from Anathema, but never dug deeply in to them. They struck me as an atmospheric and more pleasing Devin Townsend ... it's still a wall of sound to me - just not as aggressive as Devy.
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Hey cool! Another hit!
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BTBAM got to #12 on my list. I still haven’t heard the first two albums because everyone has said that they are not nearly as progressive, and I generally don’t like screamo bands. But I own everything from Alaska forward, and it’s phenomenal. Colors was my first and I really didn’t get it at first, but White Walls was amazing to I held on to it. I think it was the Parallax I EP that really clicked with me first. Then the Parallax II album came out and I was hooked. Although I will say that I do like their newer albums even more because they do have a bit more song structure to them. For people looking to have a first taste, I would suggest the two Automata albums first.
Anathema is ok. I own one of their newer albums (We’re Here Because We’re Here) and it’s pleasant enough. I might check out more at some point.
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0/2 again today, although if I was ranking my top 25 bands that DTF helped me gain a better appreciation of, these two would make the list.
I played some Between the Buried and Me in the Deepcut.fm session with Litho last night (right after you left Puppies, it was Bad Habits as well) and was saying to him how the vocals, both clean and harsh, are what stop BTBAM coming anywhere near even my top 50. Musically I think they are great, but I get absolutely nothing out of those vocals. They are pretty consistent as well and I really like pretty much all their albums.
Anathema are another band I was aware of before joining DTF (like BTBAM) but had not listened to much. Maybe I'd heard some of their earlier doom stuff, but it's the latter day albums I really enjoy. Weather Systems and We're Here Because We're Here are obviously amazing, as mentioned above, and Untouchable Pts. 1&2 have been sent in many a roulette, often by Sacul. Great, great band but ultimately wouldn't get a sniff in my top 50 due to the competition, but maybe top 100.
Just catching up on yesterday as well. Katatonia are a band I've been aware of since I started listening to Opeth (probably) but only really started checking out their albums once I joined DTF. I really liked the album with the bird on the cover :neverusethis:
Lastly, Helloween. When I first got heavily into metal I made a conscious effort to check out the new bands coning out, as well the classic bands that inspired them. This stemmed from my love of Metallica's Garage Inc, and checking out the bands they covered. I pretty much just had Keeper of the Seven Keys Parts 1&2 for years. At some point further on down the line I acquired further albums from a friend, but they never really clicked. Helloween have a lot in common with Iron Maiden, and I've never really been a fan of theirs either. At this point I've probably heard about 1/3 of Helloween's catalogue but nothing has made me want to hear anymore. Solid enough band.
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Couple more bands, number of lists appeared on is starting to grow:
37. Between The Buried And Me
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 140,619
Highest Finish: 8 (King Puppies and the Acid Guppies)
Number of Lists appeared on: 8 (coz, romdrums, wolfking, Dave_Manchester, jammindude, King Puppies and the Acid Guppies, Buddyhunter1, SomeoneLikeHim)
I've tried to get into BTBAM and there certainly some songs I like but I rarely go out of my way to listen to them.
37. Anathema
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 278,938
Highest Finish: 1 (Sacul)
Number of Lists appeared on: 7 (LithoJazzoSphere, King Puppies and the Acid Guppies, PMSummer, Buddyhunter1, Sacul, elefantStone, nick_z)
Similar situation as BTBAM although I like a chunk of Anathema's music more. One of my favorite Anathema moments is the guitar solo in "Universal" from the live release.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
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NR Anathema
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And another pair of bands not on my list... however, this time I HAVE heard of Anathema, and they would've definitely made my Top 50, though I don't really care for their earlier doom metal era. Everything from the latter half of their career is amazing. Such a shame how the band imploded and aren't likely to come back. I remember being at a mall near where my grandparents lived back in 2010 and I stopped by the FYE there and found the special edition of We're Here Because We're Here and was intrigued by the artwork and overside packaging, having seen it online and being praised as one of the best prog albums of the year, so I bought it and fell in love with that album. The music is very synonymous with that time of my life, for good and bad, but since then I looked forward to every new release by the band.
As for BTBAM, I've seen the name here before but never checked them out.
-Marc.
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Apparently this list is an anathema to me. WTAF?
NR Frank Zappa
NR Symphony X
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
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I listened to a good bit of BTBAM for TAC’s roulette and they weren’t my thing, but I remember thinking the drums were cool. I prefer the Counting Crows song the band took their name from.
Anathema I’ve tried a little bit to get into because they seem like they should be more my thing, but something about the music doesn’t grab me. They fall a bit into that same range that Porcupine Tree do for me where the music sounds nice but doesn’t always do much for me. May need to give them another try at some point.
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Anathema is nr 13 for me. Their album "We're Here Because We're Here" hold a special place in my heart. Their unique blend of rock and atmospheric elements is something that has deeply resonated with me. The lyrics on this album are incredibly touching and have a way of connecting with one's emotions. It's an album that's become a regular part of my music collection, and I just can't get enough of it. That's not to say their other work is bad, from the early doom metal to the last few albums - I think it's all good.
When it comes to BTBAM, I like colors but that's about as much as I've gotten into them.
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Anathema: This band is here mostly based on the strength of their three best albums: Judgement, We're Here Because We're Here, and Weather Systems. But man, those are some albums. Stunning atmospheres, great guitar work, memorable songwriting, and just jam-packed with emotion. Weather Systems is my clear favorite, and is my quintessential "summer" album. Untouchable Pt. 1, The Beginning And The End, Internal Landscapes... just breathtaking stuff. While there's a pretty big quality gap between those three albums and their others, they've never put out anything bad as far as I can tell. Alternative 4, Distant Satellites, The Optimist, and the other post-doom albums all have some highlights. I've never listened to their early doom albums and have never really felt the need to, but I'm sure they have their own appeal.
Between The Buried And Me: I'm pretty sure I've seen these guys live more times than any other band? That's primarily a testament to how often they tour the states, but still, there's gotta be a reason I keep coming back. These guys are peak prog metal when they're at their best. It took me a while to warm up to them, with the harsh vocals, metalcore passages, and their uh, "loose" song structures, but once Colors finally clicked it became easily one of my favorite albums of all time. It's absolute lightning in a bottle, an uncompromising whirlwind of prog metal passion and quality. The last four minutes of White Walls might be my favorite few minutes of music ever made. I also love most of The Great Misdirect, Parallax II is a little drawn-out but mostly great, and Alaska while being a pretty inconsistent listen has some of their best songs like All Bodies and Selkies. This band can get a bit... same-y after a while, especially in their recent years, but they still manage to scratch a particular itch for me, and I'll always be coming back to their best stuff.
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BTBAM are one of the bands it took me a long time to get into (I had Colors for years before I figured out what everyone loved about it), but now they're one of my all time favorites. I still Parallax 1 is the best piece of music they've ever done, but Colors, PII, Coma, Alaska, are all incredible as well. I actually really like the debut as well, although I think most aren't too hot on it.
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I still Parallax 1 is the best piece of music they've ever done
I totally agree. I also think Colors II and The Great Misdirect are better than Colors.
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I still Parallax 1 is the best piece of music they've ever done
I totally agree. I also think Colors II and The Great Misdirect are better than Colors.
They're all good albums, so I'm fine with you being wrong.
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I remember finally checking out Weather Systems by Anthema and loving it, but the next one I tried left me hollow and I moved on to other stuff, so I wouldn't know enough of their stuff for them to have had a chance ay my top 50. Weather Systems is pretty dang great for sure.
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Still only 1 band on my list: Evergrey.
Both BTBAM and Anathema are bands I like which could be top 50 if I paid some more attention to the whole discography.
This countdown made me spin some of the Agalloch and Symphony X albums. Agalloch is right up my alley, could be top 25 in a few months.
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BTBAM is a band I started to get into awhile ago, but for whatever reason I've only given cursory listens to the albums after Colors, and haven't really binged on them at all in probably a decade and a half. Given how popular they are I should probably revisit them again at some point.
Anathema obviously made my list. I heard a bit of their work in the 00s, since their fanbase heavily overlapped with that of other bands I was into, but they didn't really click at the time. Then close to a decade ago I gave Weather Systems a listen on a whim, and it bowled me over. It's still my favorite, and it seems a relatively rare consensus favorite among their fanbase. I do like their earlier work quite a lot too though, including the death/doom material as part of the Peaceville Three. My favorite era is the last four albums though, partially because of Vincent and Lee's vocal dynamic. I consider The Optimist almost as good as WS, which seems to be a quite uncommon opinion.
I really liked the album with the bird on the cover :neverusethis:
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Got 2 now. Been a big Buried fan for a while now, just an incredibly consistent band. Each album is a journey and a pleasure to enjoy from start to finish.
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BTBAM is pretty cool from what I have heard.
We're Here Because We're Here is great, although I think I like Weather Systems more. Those are the only 2 I know by them.
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BTBAM is another one that I overall enjoy but never quite crossed over into greatness for me. Kinda agree with Luke on the vocals. Not that I have any issue with harsh vocals in general, but there's something about these ones that I'm not sold on. The cleans are ok.
Anathema on the other hand...so happy to see them make it! They were #17 on my list. I guess I'm not too surprised to see them here, although arguably that's mostly because of the prog-leanings of the latter part of their career.
As for my own "history" with the band...despite my great appreciation for the doom and gloom scene of the 90s, I can't say I am in love with their full-length debut Serenades. I get that it has a place in the famous Peaceville three, but I feel Anathema truly started to be something special once they moved away from their strictly death-doom origins. The Silent Enigma was quite transitional, and not "there" yet (although songs like Restless Oblivion and A Dying Wish are fantastic), but the Eternity-Alternative 4-Judgement run is really where it's at for me. Eternity is still a bit rough (such a unique record, though!), Alternative 4 is my favorite, and Judgement is pretty close. Songs like Fragile Dreams, Lost Control and Deep are just too good.
Then things become a little weirder for a bit. There's a lot to like in both A Fine Day to Exit and Natural Disaster (I think I enjoy the latter a tad better, overall), but I didn't have the same connection with them. Then the hiatus of sorts and...well, the " melancholic prog" comeback. Like I said, for me, when I think of Anathema as a big favorite of mine, I think second half of the Nineties, but it's undeniable that the streak of records since We're Here...is of extremely high quality. Of that phase of their history, Weather Systems is my favorite, and the Untouchable songs are up there among the very, very top. Distant Satellites and The Optimist I like, but don't love.
I guess it's a bit of a shame things ended the way they did. But the band left us with a pretty amazing body of work....
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Another hit for me today. Someone above had the good idea of adding recommendations to their list for anyone looking to check out the bands, so I'll do the same.
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Between The Buried And Me are one of those bands whose music is so incredible I'm able to tolerate the otherwise off-putting growly/screamy vocals (there's a certain Swedish band whom I'm sure will be along on this list soon who also fit this category). These guys are extraordinarily talented musicians.
Anathema would have made a top 50 list, they've written some very beautiful songs, but they never really stood a chance at my top 25 because over the course of their last few albums they'd become a little bit of a 1-trick pony to my ears.
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One thing I will say about BTBAM is that I really, really enjoy their clean vocals. "Desert Of Song" is a great example of great vocals and great vocal melodies IMO.
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NR Miles Davis (Would probably make my top 100 even though I've only heard less than half of his stuff. Favorite albums are probably In a Silent Way and Get Up With It)
NR King Crimson (Another that would make my top 100, maybe even top 50. Favorite albums, Red and Discipline)
NR Avenged Sevenfold (A top 50 band most likely. Favorite albums, City of Evil and The Stage)
NR Scorpions (A top 100 band. One of my dad's favorite bands. Favorite albums, Taken By Force and Love At First Sting)
NR Frank Zappa (Kind of the same situation as Miles Davis, except Frank has some stuff that I absolutely don't like, so probably wouldn't be a top 100 artist. Favorite albums, Joe's Garage and Hot Rats)
NR Evergrey (As I mentioned earlier they have some decent albums and their latest may actually be my favorite, but I still don't like Tom Englund's vocals)
NR UFO (A band that I haven't listened to enough. I keep intending on doing a deep dive. I do really like the album Walk On Water)
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor (A band that had 3 masterpieces to start and on the strength of those would have made my top 50, but everything they've done since has been fairly bland)
NR Nightwish (A band that I strongly considered for my initial list and might be in my top 50. Favorite albums, Dark Passion Play and Once
NR Katatonia (A top 100 band easily. Favorite albums, Brave Murder Day and The Fall of Hearts)
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Another hit for me today. Someone above had the good idea of adding recommendations to their list for anyone looking to check out the bands, so I'll do the same.
Between The Buried And Me are one of those bands whose music is so incredible I'm able to tolerate the otherwise off-putting growly/screamy vocals (there's a certain Swedish band whom I'm sure will be along on this list soon who also fit this category).
Yea, nice idea, I'm gonna add my favourite album/song to my future posts.
As for those harsh vocals. I'm 100% with you on the other band you are alluding to. They have the same monotonous quality, but I do prefer that style with the other band, if only by a little bit.
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35. Radiohead
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Highest Finish: 1 (PMSummer)
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I don't think I've tried to get into a band as much as I've tried with Radiohead. I can see the appeal but Thom's vocals are a 100ft wall that I just can't get over, that is at least until I heard A Moon Shaped Pool. I was following Sacul's Top 50 countdown and on his recommendation I gave the album a spin and really liked it. I went back to listen to some of the earlier albums and it still didn't do anything for me but Moon Shaped Pool is a solid album.
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They would be on my longer list for sure.... maybe somwhere around 50 to 75.
I love OK Coputer but simehow haven't felt as much for other abums.
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Radiohead were the band that ended up getting bumped from my #25 spot to accommodate Nightwish. In Rainbows is a masterpiece and Kid A isn't far behind.
Favourite album: In Rainbows.
Favourite song: Motion Picture Soundtrack.
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35. Radiohead
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I don't think I've tried to get into a band as much as I've tried with Radiohead. I can see the appeal but Thom's vocals are a 100ft wall that I just can't get over, that is at least until I heard A Moon Shaped Pool. I was following Sacul's Top 50 countdown and on his recommendation I gave the album a spin and really liked it. I went back to listen to some of the earlier albums and it still didn't do anything for me but Moon Shaped Pool is a solid album.
My number 5, but on any given day, these boys could be my number 1.
As someone who was there from day 1, there is no other band that I have gone on such a journey with.
To be frank, I had no use for "Creep" back when it was all over the airwaves, and while "The Bends" and "OK Computer" were in my general rotation throughout my teens, I was beyond unimpressed by "Kid A" when it was released back in October of 2000.
But, over the last couple of decades or so, my thoughts have evolved significantly, to the point that I now hold a number of Radiohead albums (including "Kid A") in the highest esteem.
I think it began with In Rainbows, an album that remains a top-tier (and potentially number one) favorite of all time.
But what I really think happened here is that, as I got older, and Yorke and Co. got older, their output began continued to line up and resonate with me and where I was in my life.
I sincerely hope another (final?) album is on the horizon, but if A Moon Shaped Pool remains their swan song, I can think of no better way for the band to go out.
As an aside, the genius side-projects from this band, which now includes the brilliant The Smile, puts Radiohead into a similar category for me as DT, as the band's music is just the tip of a very large iceberg.
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I like a few Radiohead songs here and there from The Bends and OK Computer, but that's about it. Like ReaperKK said, Tom's voice is a big barrier for me.
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Radiohead would been in the 11-20 range for me. Amazing band, and In Rainbows still stands as one of my 10 favorite albums ever. I get it if Yorke's voice is a tough hill for some to climb, but I am good with it. When you look at their history and what they have done with all of the stylistic changes and whatnot, it's crazy impressive.
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Radiohead didn't make my list but I'm definitely a fan. Mainly listened to The Bends and OK Computer. Decently familiar with Kid A as well, I really should check out more. I've been saying that a lot during this list. :lol
I'll spin In Rainbows later today.
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I only ranked out 47 artists, and Radiohead didn’t make that list. But I would maybe have gotten to them if had consciously gone up to 50. I own three of their albums (The Bends, OK Computer, and Kid A) and genuinely think all 3 are good to great albums. But I don’t revisit them often and generally don’t have a ton of affection for them or for Radiohead. They are a band I appreciate, but who just don’t excite me. Have heard bits of the other albums but nothing to really motivate me to dig further so far.
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Radiohead landing at #35? Really? I mean, I expected them to be higher for sure! I've had them at the top of my list for over a decade now, and they've meant the world to me.
Radiohead's music has this incredible depth and range that's hard to find elsewhere. If you haven't already, you've got to give 'OK Computer' a listen – that album is a masterpiece from start to finish. In Rainbows & Kid A follow close behind for me but all their work is great.
If you're just getting into Radiohead, I'd recommend starting with 'Paranoid Android' and 'Exit Music (for a film)' from 'OK Computer'. Those tracks will give you a taste of their beautiful sound from a rock perspective. Then, dive into 'Everything In Its Right Place' and 'Idioteque' from "Kid A" to experience a more experimental side of them.
I can't express enough how much Radiohead's music has resonated with me throughout the years. They're truly one of the most innovative and influential bands out there. I hope they climb a bit higher on this list next time!
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35. Radiohead
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 24,356,090
Highest Finish: 1 (PMSummer)
Number of Lists appeared on: 5 (Metropolaris, PMSummer, Sacul, WilliamMunny, elefantStone)
I don't think I've tried to get into a band as much as I've tried with Radiohead. I can see the appeal but Thom's vocals are a 100ft wall that I just can't get over, that is at least until I heard A Moon Shaped Pool. I was following Sacul's Top 50 countdown and on his recommendation I gave the album a spin and really liked it. I went back to listen to some of the earlier albums and it still didn't do anything for me but Moon Shaped Pool is a solid album.
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NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
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I have enjoyed much of Radiohead in the past, and even bought the fancy slipcover box set of most of their albums before In Rainbows, but I haven't given them a serious listen in yeaaaaars. I don't think I would've even considered them in my top 30 or 40, maybe in 41-50 or just outside of that. They're definitely good and I could see why and how they'd make it this high, but for me, I just haven't given them much thought in a long time.... outside of listening to "Pyramid Song" a couple weeks ago. I still can't believe that song is in 4/4. :lol
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Radiohead landing at #35? Really? I mean, I expected them to be higher for sure! I've had them at the top of my list for over a decade now, and they've meant the world to me.
Radiohead's music has this incredible depth and range that's hard to find elsewhere. If you haven't already, you've got to give 'OK Computer' a listen – that album is a masterpiece from start to finish. In Rainbows & Kid A follow close behind for me but all their work is great.
If you're just getting into Radiohead, I'd recommend starting with 'Paranoid Android' and 'Exit Music (for a film)' from 'OK Computer'. Those tracks will give you a taste of their beautiful sound from a rock perspective. Then, dive into 'Everything In Its Right Place' and 'Idioteque' from "Kid A" to experience a more experimental side of them.
I can't express enough how much Radiohead's music has resonated with me throughout the years. They're truly one of the most innovative and influential bands out there. I hope they climb a bit higher on this list next time!
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Well said! :hefdaddy
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"Hey Arnie, what were the chances of Radiohead making my list?"
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Wow. Not only is Radiohead not on my list, but one of the very, very few bands I actively dislike. If this list was our DTF Bottom 50 Bands/Artists, Radiohead is either one or two. Probably number one, since I can't name another band to put there. Not only do I not get it, a lot of their music is actually uncomfortable for me to listen to. I have OK Computer and Kid A - masterpiece is a stretch, but I get at least where they were going with those two - but I got Hail To The Thief in an eBay auction and it's probably the only CD I've ever considered just throwing away (others get sold on eBay; I did end up selling it).
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Stadler, you buy albums by bands you actively dislike? What form of self-flagellation is this?
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Stadler, you buy albums by bands you actively dislike? What form of self-flagellation is this?
Lol...not to pile on, but I have found it curious over the years the lengths our man has gone through to explain (admittedly eloquently so) how much he dislikes Radiohead. Especially on the heels of someone saying how much they love the band.
To be fair, always in fun (and good taste), but, seriously, for a band you actively dislike, they sure do inspire a ton of words (or maybe, just maybe, it's starting to click?)
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Radiohead landing at #35? Really? I mean, I expected them to be higher for sure! I've had them at the top of my list for over a decade now, and they've meant the world to me.
Radiohead's music has this incredible depth and range that's hard to find elsewhere. If you haven't already, you've got to give 'OK Computer' a listen – that album is a masterpiece from start to finish. In Rainbows & Kid A follow close behind for me but all their work is great.
If you're just getting into Radiohead, I'd recommend starting with 'Paranoid Android' and 'Exit Music (for a film)' from 'OK Computer'. Those tracks will give you a taste of their beautiful sound from a rock perspective. Then, dive into 'Everything In Its Right Place' and 'Idioteque' from "Kid A" to experience a more experimental side of them.
I can't express enough how much Radiohead's music has resonated with me throughout the years. They're truly one of the most innovative and influential bands out there. I hope they climb a bit higher on this list next time!
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Landing at 35 out of over 400 bands puts Radiohead in the top 9% of bands nominated for this countdown. I'd say that's a pretty good deal. I wonder how many of us who submitted lists have their number one pick in the Top 40/top 10%?
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Stadler, you buy albums by bands you actively dislike? What form of self-flagellation is this?
Lol...not to pile on, but I have found it curious over the years the lengths our man has gone through to explain (admittedly eloquently so) how much he dislikes Radiohead. Especially on the heels of someone saying how much they love the band.
To be fair, always in fun (and good taste), but, seriously, for a band you actively dislike, they sure do inspire a ton of words (or maybe, just maybe, it's starting to click?)
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Hey, I kinda get it, just poking fun. The bands I actively dislike are U2 and Simply Red. Vile stains in the musical landscape. Can't say I've ever been tempted to purchase their music though.
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I can't understand how you can actively dislike a band or an artist. Just don't listen to their music and move on.
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Stadler, you buy albums by bands you actively dislike? What form of self-flagellation is this?
Lol...not to pile on, but I have found it curious over the years the lengths our man has gone through to explain (admittedly eloquently so) how much he dislikes Radiohead. Especially on the heels of someone saying how much they love the band.
To be fair, always in fun (and good taste), but, seriously, for a band you actively dislike, they sure do inspire a ton of words (or maybe, just maybe, it's starting to click?)
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Hey, I kinda get it, just poking fun. The bands I actively dislike are U2 and Simply Red. Vile stains in the musical landscape. Can't say I've ever been tempted to purchase their music though.
Oh, you and me both. (apologize if that doesn't come across...nothing but love for Stadler)
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I can't understand how you can actively dislike a band or an artist. Just don't listen to their music and move on.
See that's passive dislike, you gotta think more actively, maybe go for a run while thinking about hating the band? :lol
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I'm the anti-Stadler for this one, no problem admitting I'm a Thom Yorke fanboy - I get all his side projects as well. Agree with WilliamMunny above that the Smile is worth mentioning, definitely his best side project. Give it a try for anyone who isn't a Yorke vocals hater, they only have one album (so far, a second is rumored to be on the way) and it's my favorite from last year.
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I'm the anti-Stadler for this one, no problem admitting I'm a Thom Yorke fanboy - I get all his side projects as well. Agree with WilliamMunny above that the Smile is worth mentioning, definitely his best side project. Give it a try for anyone who isn't a Yorke vocals hater, they only have one album (so far, a second is rumored to be on the way) and it's my favorite from last year.
If "Bending Hectic" is a sign of things to come, then I think this band's future is very bright! :coolio
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Never heard of Anathema. Between the Buried... was on one of the Prog Nation tours. My friend and I walked in from the lobby to check them out. As soon as the growly guy opened his mouth, we bailed and had another beer while waiting for DT. I've heard a few songs by Radiohead, but nothing interested me enough to do a dive.
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I got Hail To The Thief in an eBay auction and it's probably the only CD I've ever considered just throwing away (others get sold on eBay; I did end up selling it).
Why would you bid on an auction for a CD by a band you don't like?
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Radiohead has never clicked with me. They have a lot of interesting ideas, but a lot of them don't really hit, and like others, Yorke's vocals are a major sticking point. The more I've thought about it recently, he's probably actually the template for a lot of modern vocalists that just don't work for me. That said, I do quite like Kid A as an album, and there are a handful of other songs of theirs I enjoy occasionally in spite of all that.
As for those harsh vocals. I'm 100% with you on the other band you are alluding to. They have the same monotonous quality, but I do prefer that style with the other band, if only by a little bit.
Almost positive I know which band you two are talking about, and I would not describe the harsh vocals as monotonous, but we'll get to that eventually (hopefully deep in the countdown!).
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Love Radiohead ❤️
#8 on my list
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Catching up after a long weekend away. Where am I?
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Landing at 35 out of over 400 bands puts Radiohead in the top 9% of bands nominated for this countdown. I'd say that's a pretty good deal. I wonder how many of us who submitted lists have their number one pick in the Top 40/top 10%?
-Marc.
I'm pretty sure that I'm the only one who even considered the one in my top spot.
They will be way down on the list.
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Stadler, you buy albums by bands you actively dislike? What form of self-flagellation is this?
So I've been laughing to myself all afternoon about a joke that I was hoping this comment would tee up. It hasn't materialised but I might just post it later anyway, for laughs.
In other Top 50 Artists news, I've checked out a few Zappa albums since he made the list, based on hoveringsojourns mammoth list. Well the orchestral albums intrigued me (as I didn't even knew he did any). I've just finished listening to The Yellow Shark and it's right up my alley. Not quite as good as Hot Rats, although obviously very different, but something I'll definitely revisit! Cheers dude.
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About Anathema: Woah I'm quite surprised they ended up outside the top 10, with all the love they seem to get over here, or maybe that's my own infatuation with them :lol. Yeah they've been my favorite band for a while now, pretty much everything from Alternative 4 through Distant Satellites is amazing for me. It broke my heart that they disbanded in such a confusing way, but at least I got to see them live a few years ago. Amazing show.
BTBAM are ok.
Radiohead are pretty cool, not too high on my list, but still a cool band,
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Stadler, you buy albums by bands you actively dislike? What form of self-flagellation is this?
So I've been laughing to myself all afternoon about a joke that I was hoping this comment would tee up. It hasn't materialised but I might just post it later anyway, for laughs.
In other Top 50 Artists news, I've checked out a few Zappa albums since he made the list, based on hoveringsojourns mammoth list. Well the orchestral albums intrigued me (as I didn't even knew he did any). I've just finished listening to The Yellow Shark and it's right up my alley. Not quite as good as Hot Rats, although obviously very different, but something I'll definitely revisit! Cheers dude.
oh wow, that's incredible!! FZ was actually primarily a composer, and all of his work was scribed onto formal sheet music before it was ever practiced by his various bands. during a significant portion of the mid 70s, Steve Vai was actually his intern/scribe (This is before he formally joined and had a stint with him as a guitarist in the early 1980s). But yeah, his orchestral work is incredible, and i'm so thrilled you loved The Yellow Shark, that record was made with the Ensemble Modern in Europe and it was the final thing that FZ released in his lifetime. He was actually the conductor for some of the shows on the tour those recordings come from, but was not the primary/main one because he was already falling really ill with his cancer by then. But he said before he died that that project was one of his greatest joys and most proud achievements. Really, really special record. Stoked that you loved it, thanks for checking it out!
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About Anathema: Woah I'm quite surprised they ended up outside the top 10, with all the love they seem to get over here, or maybe that's my own infatuation with them :lol.
I think with how these lists work, the top 10 will probably be bands who are also popular outside of DTF. :lol And also Dream Theater.
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I love a good handful of Radiohead songs. And then, some songs are just not my jam. Favorite songs: Karma Police, No Surprises, Paranoid Android
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If I did submit I would have definitely had Helloween (top 10), Katatonia and BTBAM. I don't think I would have had Radiohead but this is where it got too hard for me as Radiohead were 1 of 50 bands that could have filled my last 10 spots....
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About Anathema: Woah I'm quite surprised they ended up outside the top 10, with all the love they seem to get over here, or maybe that's my own infatuation with them :lol.
I think with how these lists work, the top 10 will probably be bands who are also popular outside of DTF. :lol And also Dream Theater.
I haven't looked yet but I'm really curious how the list will look when you sort by the amount of monthly spotify streams an artist gets. I know it's not a great metric but one I'm pretty interested in seeing.
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For the record, I didn’t get OK Computer when it first came out. But a decade later it hit me…HARD. Now I think it’s one of the greatest albums of that decade, and I think it’s one of the albums that defines the 90s. I’ve actually had No Surprises stuck in my head all day.
The rest of their catalog (what I’ve heard anyway) is kinda spotty. But they caught lightning in a bottle for that album. But based on the feedback in this thread, I will check out In Rainbows
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Please do, it's fantastic and closer to OKC than most albums in between. Reckoner would be on my shortlist for favourite songs of all time.
I've been listening to Miles Davis (some kind of blue primarily) since he was mentioned and it's great :millahhhh.
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More ties!
33t. Big Big Train
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Highest Finish: 1 (The Letter M)
Number of Lists appeared on: 6 (HOF, Metropolaris, Zydar, The Letter M, souptwist, SomeoneLikeHim)
When I checked Spotify streams I didn't realize how many people were in this band :lol. I need to check them out and would love a recommendation, I knew they were fairly popular on DTF. For a while it felt like everytime I went to the "What are you listening to?" thread Zydar was spinning a BBT album.
33t. Peter Gabriel
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Highest Finish: 3 (SwedishGoose)
Number of Lists appeared on: 6 (HOF, romdrums, SwedishGoose, Dave_Manchester, TheHoveringSojourn808, The Great Zo)
The only Peter Gabriel album I have is So and I think it's alright, I guess. There are some ok tracks on there and the rest doesn't do anything for me which is why I never explored him further.
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25. Between the Buried and Me
20. Avenged Sevenfold
9. The Dear Hunter
8. Big Big Train
Big Big Train is my best musical discovery of 2023 so I'm still a very new fan of the band. It didn't take long for them to completely win me over though, it sometimes feels like a band tailor made for my tastes. I started with English Electric pt. 1 followed by pt. 2 and I would recommend anyone curious to do the same, those are still my favorite albums. Love, love, love this band. Could see them moving even farther up the rankings once I've had more time with their music.
Edit: For anyone with 15 minutes to spare I recommend East Coast Racer from English Electric pt. 2.
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Given my general taste in music, I probably should love Big Big Train, but I don't. They are one of those bands I hear and think, "this sounds really good," but I never have any urge to circle back and listen to them, ever. They are similar to Marillion and Riverside in that regard, I suppose. I get why some love them, but they just fail to hit the bullseye for me.
Solo Peter Gabriel is awesome. He would have been a borderline top 25 artist for me, but I'm still a big fan. Secret World Live remains in the conversation when I think of what is my favorite live concert DVD/Blu-ray. Just amazing on all levels.
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Big Big Train was my big discovery in late 2021/early 2022. They remind me of early Genesis (which I love). Very English and pastoral prog music. My favourite songs are Swan Hunter and Hedgerow. I had them at #19 on my list.
I'm a fan of Peter Gabriel as well, I particularly love his first album with Solsbury Hill and Here Comes The Flood. Family Snapshot from "Melt" is brilliant as well. He didn't make my Top 25 though.
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Really great pairing today! Two closely associated acts (David Longdon has a similar voice as Peter Gabriel, and Big Big Train have spent a good bit of time at Real World Studios).
BBT were my number 2 band, and it’s nice to see that they made it this high. For a long time I’ve had a “big 3” at the top of my list with BBT on the outside at 4. But I figure at this point since they are active (and 2 of the other 3 aren’t) that it made more sense to rank them second. It’s genuinely close between them and my number 1. Since I first really got into BBT in 2013, I imagine I’ve listened to them more than any other artist. IMO they are the premier modern prog band, and I don’t think anyone is close to their level. Just top notch musicianship, songwriting, and production. They have a good bit of Genesis in their DNA, but they’ve never just parroted them, and they’ve generally grown beyond that sound over the last several albums. They have a diverse and mature sound and they stand apart from their influences on their own.
If I were to recommend one album, it would be either The Underfall Yard or English Electric, but if you just need a couple songs to check out, go with Victorian Brickwork or East Coast Racer (I’d recommend the original English Electric album version first, rather than the re-recorded version on Ingenious Devices).
Gabriel was my number 8 as a solo artist. Don’t know what needs to be said, but he’s just had a lengthy career as an innovator and has a legendary voice. From prog to art rock to world music to pop and back, he’s done it all. It’s too bad he didn’t make more music over the last 20 years, but I’m thankful for the bits we’ve gotten, and at least we’ll get one more in December. There was a period after Up came out where I was just gobbling up all things PG. Easily one of the artists who has made the biggest impact on me as a music listener.
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Gabriel landed at #18. Never heard anything from Big Big Train, although I do remember someone made a thread about the band over at MP's old forum waxing euphoric over them, so maybe I'll check something out.
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I'm surprised BBT is this "low", I'd have figured they'd be a bit higher given how they're talked about here. I've only heard a small portion of their catalog, have liked what I've heard but haven't fallen for them yet. HOF sent "The Florentine" in my roulette, which is an incredible song, and I hope to discover more like it from them.
I have a few Peter Gabriel albums, but haven't really spent much time with them yet. Early on I much preferred Collins-era Genesis, and it's been a gradual process of the Gabriel era growing on me over time.
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For the record, for me it’s Collins Genesis over Gabriel Genesis, but Gabriel solo over Collins solo. But I love all of them.
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Grown to love Big Big Train over the last couple years. Love David Longdon’s voice. #18
Peter Gabriel is on my list, but not as a solo artist.
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Another hit for me today
Peter Gabriel is special to me for many reasons (his Genesis work mostly), but he was also my first ever concert. My Dad took me to see him when I was just 13 years old and I'll never forget it. His stage show and production being so big and grand made the next several years' worth of concerts I saw significantly less impressive. What do you mean usually the band just stands on stage and plays?
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Two misses.
I like Big Big Train, but not that much to include them in my Top 25/50 list.
Not familiar with the solo output of Peter Gabriel.
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More ties!
33t. Big Big Train
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Number of Lists appeared on: 6 (HOF, Metropolaris, Zydar, The Letter M, souptwist, SomeoneLikeHim)
When I checked Spotify streams I didn't realize how many people were in this band :lol. I need to check them out and would love a recommendation, I knew they were fairly popular on DTF. For a while it felt like everytime I went to the "What are you listening to?" thread Zydar was spinning a BBT album.
33t. Peter Gabriel
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Highest Finish: 3 (SwedishGoose)
Number of Lists appeared on: 6 (HOF, romdrums, SwedishGoose, Dave_Manchester, TheHoveringSojourn808, The Great Zo)
The only Peter Gabriel album I have is So and I think it's alright, I guess. There are some ok tracks on there and the rest doesn't do anything for me which is why I never explored him further.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
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Remember when I said...
I wonder how many of us who submitted lists have their number one pick in the Top 40/top 10%?
I guess I'm next! :lol I'm sure Reaper had a good chuckle from me saying that knowing BBT would be next today. I'm just happy to see them make it into the Top 40, and appear on six lists, all regulars in the BBT thread.
Yes, Big Big Train slowly became my current number one band, and it's been nearly 11 years since I discovered them between the releases of English Electric Parts 1 and 2, which is where I would point anyone to start out with them, or rather the compilation of both albums (and new songs from the Make Some Noise EP) as English Electric Full Power. Other recommendations would be Folklore and, if you want to see where the band might be heading next, their last album Welcome To The World, their last with David Longdon and released posthumously.
I'm sure anyone who's read the BBT thread already knows how much I love this band. I've got like nine band shirts, many albums bought in duplicate (or in the case of The Underfall Yard, triplicate), the hardcover biography of the band (which I still need to read), and more. I'll never stop singing their praises and am very excited for the future of the band.
As for Peter Gabriel, I've listened to some of his solo work before, but I've just never gone really deep into it. I'm sure it's all good but I've just not had the time to really give it a chance. Someday, maybe...
-Marc.
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Big Big Train
They would probably be somewhere around 30 to 40 for me.
Some fantastic albums and also fantastic live. Got to see them earlier this year....magic
Folkklore holds a special place in my heart
Peter Gabriel
Obviously I love him as I had the higest position for him.
His tenure with Genesis is fantastic but I find his solo output to be stellar as well.
There's quite some stylistic differences within his output but I find it all fantastic from the poppy to the experimental to the world music.
My favorite album of his is US there is just some fantastic wibes that resonate with me on that album.
Pretty sure that i/o will be album of the year for me as I have the 11 songs that have been released so far out of 12.
Saw the i/o tour earlier this year and it was totally awesome.
Seen him 3 times before this as well and the 1993 concert on the Secret World tour is to this day the best concert I have ever seen.
The DVD of the Secret World tour is also magical.... absolutely required for any PG fans.
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Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train
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Another hit for me today
Peter Gabriel is special to me for many reasons (his Genesis work mostly), but he was also my first ever concert. My Dad took me to see him when I was just 13 years old and I'll never forget it. His stage show and production being so big and grand made the next several years' worth of concerts I saw significantly less impressive. What do you mean usually the band just stands on stage and plays?
Which tour was that?
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...the hardcover biography of the band (which I still need to read)...
I don't have the book yet (it was so hideously expensive at release) so I'm waiting for it to become a bit cheaper. If that ever happens though, it seems to be out of print already.
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33t. Big Big Train
33t. Peter Gabriel
I think I've heard OF Big Big Train, but I'm pretty sure I have confused them with Train (that's a band too, right?). Either way, I have no idea what they sound like. I've only heard a few Gabriel songs. Solisbury Hill is really good, but nothing else I've heard appealed to me.
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Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, (how big is that train? it's a) Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel
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33t. Big Big Train
33t. Peter Gabriel
I think I've heard OF Big Big Train, but I'm pretty sure I have confused them with Train (that's a band too, right?). Either way, I have no idea what they sound like.
Heh, Nick D’Virgilio currently is also drumming for Mr. Big as well, and the joke is that he just needs to get involved with Train so he can be a member of Mr. Big Big Big Train Train. Or Mister Mister.
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That's funny HOF. 0/2 again today. BBT hasn't really grabbed me. PG was somewhere in my top 100.
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Another hit for me today
Peter Gabriel is special to me for many reasons (his Genesis work mostly), but he was also my first ever concert. My Dad took me to see him when I was just 13 years old and I'll never forget it. His stage show and production being so big and grand made the next several years' worth of concerts I saw significantly less impressive. What do you mean usually the band just stands on stage and plays?
Which tour was that?
Growing Up tour
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Just adding some more plugging of Peter Gabriel, one favorite song fro each studio album:
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Here Comes The Flood
https://open.spotify.com/track/6l6b7epmL1Eg7ZlxYqMVed?si=mPKWWz2JT02ql-sqpvORaw
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D.I.Y
https://open.spotify.com/track/2LIcdeLN2IRNeCDzE1HzGn?si=m5yuSX5PS-WLEUzBr1_Okw
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I Don't Remember
https://open.spotify.com/track/6ohQOlEq1QhMEOlZGPyPhh?si=yYtylpfYTDi1H0ByX8Qhkg
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Shock The Monkey
https://open.spotify.com/track/70SdvAYlIQC3KN4LPraAvu?si=_hEvI1_ZS82tJ__qGtKvWA
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Don't Give Up
https://open.spotify.com/track/2t77hjgJY4sC9DoX5uaVUD?si=pIriK3P9RGSqJBwKvSCuIQ
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Steam
https://open.spotify.com/track/2wPTuonKLuHOc3034E7lLY?si=QX-Q0D0rTQ2lsPnapBAwZQ
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Darkness
https://open.spotify.com/track/1l5h2zdOwmpfrKGOegIH6y?si=AaqcMw6PR--2AbGjvgwtaw
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Panopticom
https://open.spotify.com/track/4UKPztc9E1kNDAYgaGVcqo?si=W_lJXDPXT9qaD0L7sBSvuA
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I’ll play. Favorite from each PG album:
- Humdrum
- On the Air
- Intruder
- Wallflower (or San Jacinto)
- Red Rain (or In Your Eyes)
- Secret World
- No Way Out
Rarities:
- Here Comes the Flood (either the Fripp/Exposure version or the Shaking the Tree/Hit version)
- The Feeling Begins
- A Different Drum
- This is Party Man
- Speak (Bol)
- Heroes
I’m holding off on I/O until it’s released.
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I just made a list of 32 bands I suspect are yet to come, and still had a bunch of names left over. Gonna be some big snubs, and maybe some major surprises of bands much more popular than I realized they are, or just plain forgot.
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Might as well do Big Big Train too. A favorite from each album:
- Losing Your Way
- The Shipping Forecast
- Powder Monkey
- Pick Up If You're There
- Victorian Brickwork
- Fat Billy Shouts Mine
- East Coast Racer
- London Plane
- Grimspound
- Terra Australis Incognita
- The Florentine
- Black With Ink
- Capitoline Venus
Rarities:
- Mudlarks
- Snowfalls
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Finally got one!
Not familiar with Katatonia, Helloween, or BTBAM.
Have given a shot to Anathema, Radiohead, and Big Big Train. Have liked what I've heard, but haven't gone back to give any of them a deeper dive. In particular I think Big Big Train could be a band I'd grow to enjoy.
Peter Gabriel is the first from my list. I had him ranked at #19. Such an interesting mix of poignant pop, different musical styles from around the world, and the occasional prog influence, all expertly produced. Up might be my favorite. That album covers some deep emotional territory. I do think PG's got some inconsistency, and a handful of songs I'm genuinely not fond of -- Barry Williams Show, Kiss That Frog, and Biko in particular. Far more hits than misses, though. Unfortunately my schedule didn't work out to catch the tour this year. Hoping he does another.
PG favorites: Intruder, The Family and the Fishing Net, Red Rain, Secret World, Sky Blue
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33t. Big Big Train
33t. Peter Gabriel
I think I've heard OF Big Big Train, but I'm pretty sure I have confused them with Train (that's a band too, right?). Either way, I have no idea what they sound like.
Heh, Nick D’Virgilio currently is also drumming for Mr. Big as well, and the joke is that he just needs to get involved with Train so he can be a member of Mr. Big Big Big Train Train. Or Mister Mister.
So...
Mister Mister Big Big Big Train Train
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I hope Portnoy's taking notes for Octavarium Part II's lyrics.
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I hope Portnoy's taking notes for Octavarium Part II's lyrics.
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And in the hit song Hey Soul Sister by Train, there's a reference to Mister Mister in the chorus.
NUGGETZ
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And in the hit song Hey Soul Sister by Train, there's a reference to Mister Mister in the chorus.
NUGGETZ
WOAH
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Big Big Train are like the Adrian Tchaikovsky of music, because every time I look they have like five new albums out. The two English Electrics are probably my favorites I've heard, but pretty much any of the Longdon era stuff I've liked.
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Big Big Train are like the Adrian Tchaikovsky of music, because every time I look they have like five new albums out.
King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard just dropped two more albums while you typed up this post.
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Big Big Train are like the Adrian Tchaikovsky of music, because every time I look they have like five new albums out.
King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard just dropped two more albums while you typed up this post.
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Big Big Train are like the Adrian Tchaikovsky of music, because every time I look they have like five new albums out.
King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard just dropped two more albums while you typed up this post.
December is my slowest month at work due to our internal tech freeze so I figured I'd take the challenge and listen through the King Glizzy discography. I figured if I dedicate the month I should get through a quarter of it.
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Big Big Train are like the Adrian Tchaikovsky of music, because every time I look they have like five new albums out.
King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard just dropped two more albums while you typed up this post.
December is my slowest month at work due to our internal tech freeze so I figured I'd take the challenge and listen through the King Glizzy discography. I figured if I dedicate the month I should get through a quarter of it.
(https://media.tenor.com/hirafO86yX0AAAAC/ena-wizard.gif)
Let me be your guide
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Another band I have never heard of (Big Big Train).
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Two points separate these two today.
32. Megadeth
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Highest Finish: 9 (twosuitsluke)
Number of Lists appeared on: 12 (coz, Dream Team, TAC, twosuitsluke, Vmadera00, Trav86, nobloodyname, Fonzie, CharlesPL, WardySI, bosk1, Zoom E)
Funny that no one really put Megadeth that high on their list but they appeared on the quarter of the lists submitted (albeit pretty low). Personally I've never really been a fan. What I've heard usually ranges from ok to bad. I do kind of regret not sticking around to see them on the gigantour though. I bailed after DT.
31. Riverside
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Highest Finish: 3 (Setlist Scotty)
Number of Lists appeared on: 8 (Vmadera00, jammindude, The Letter M, Buddyhunter1, Sacul, Setlist Scotty, Lethean, Evermind)
I know nothing about Riverside. I'm kind of surprised the placed so high because I don't feel like I see them mentioned as much as some of the bands that placed lower on the list.
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I enjoy some Megadeth from time to time, but not as much nowadays. I usually go for the Rust/Countdown/Youthanasia period, sprinkled with some Cryptic Writings.
Riverside is a band I discovered quite late, so I haven't digested all their stuff. Their recent album ID.Entity is kinda great.
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Riverside... tried many times - never connected with them.
Megadeth... I wasn't in to that style of metal when they hit the scene in the 80s, and I just never really took the time to revisit them.
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Hey, I got one! Megadeth came in #15 for me.
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2 misses for me today. Don't think I've ever heard a song by either band, though Megadeth is definitely a band I keep meaning to check out.
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I like old Metallica, but never really got into their peers like Megadeth.
Riverside would rank somewhere in my top 50 if I'd done a longer list. I think I like the ADHD/Shrine/Love run of albums the best, but I haven't heard the new one yet. Saw them on CTTE2019 and they were fantastic.
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Have heard a good bit of Megadeth but can’t think of a song of theirs that I’ve liked. Not a fan of Mustaine’s voice at all.
Riverside I recall being sort of Porcupine Tree-ish modern prog with some heavier parts maybe? I know I’ve tried some songs but nothing struck me.
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Megadeath
I enjoy them when I hear them but never listen intentionally.
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Love me some Riverside, they are probably among my top 50 at least. As a late comer my favorite album is Wasteland.
Seen them live on the two latest tours.
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Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
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King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard just dropped two more albums while you typed up this post.
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Riverside is one of the best modern prog bands IMO. They clearly throw it back to Pink Floyd pretty heavily, but they do that style well and they mix it with enough modern influences and a bit more heaviness to give themselves enough of their own identity. Their discography is quite consistent, with some really stellar highlights. If you've never listened to Anno Domini High Definition... get on that ASAP. It's easily one of my favorite prog records of all time.
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Riverside is #9 for me; sometimes probably higher. All of their albums are great and I don't think they even have a song that I dislike. They're a great live band as well.
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That makes 3 for me. I once again made the stupid mistake of not saving a copy of my list but Megadeth was top 15 for sure.
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Two points separate these two today.
32. Megadeth
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Highest Finish: 9 (twosuitsluke)
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Funny that no one really put Megadeth that high on their list but they appeared on the quarter of the lists submitted (albeit pretty low). Personally I've never really been a fan. What I've heard usually ranges from ok to bad. I do kind of regret not sticking around to see them on the gigantour though. I bailed after DT.
31. Riverside
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Highest Finish: 3 (Setlist Scotty)
Number of Lists appeared on: 8 (Vmadera00, jammindude, The Letter M, Buddyhunter1, Sacul, Setlist Scotty, Lethean, Evermind)
I know nothing about Riverside. I'm kind of surprised the placed so high because I don't feel like I see them mentioned as much as some of the bands that placed lower on the list.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
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Did not place Megadeth, and to be honest I don't think I've ever even heard their music before.
Riverside, on the other hand, I have been a fan of since their fourth album, Anno Domini High Definition (or ADHD), which was their heaviest album at the time, but I eventually fell in love with their earlier work and have greatly enjoyed everything they've released since. I have a particular fondness for their instrumental compilation album Eye Of The Soundscape, 102 minutes of mood-setting music. Their newest album earlier this year is one of my faves of 2023 and spent a good long time in rotation for me! I'll have to spin some Riverside today to celebrate their placement here!
-Marc.
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That makes 3 for me. I once again made the stupid mistake of not saving a copy of my list but Megadeth was top 15 for sure.
7ish Scorpions
8ish Symphony X
12ish Megadeth
I pm'd your list back to you.
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Hey, I got one! Megadeth came in #15 for me.
First one for me, too! :lol
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1/2 today and the first artist that I'd ranked higher than any other, and it was Megadeth! Wasn't expecting to have them ranked higher than anyone else to be honest. Yes, I get that a lot of people can't stand Mustaine, and he gives plenty of opportunity (vocal style, whining nature, obsession with Metallica, political views, religious views, being an asshat to with etc, etc.). I love the damn band though and Rust in Peace is a Top 5 all time album for me. Not surprised they didn't make the top 25, and feel this placement is about right.
Riverside would probably rank in my top 100 somewhere. Really cool band but due the style of their prog, I have to be in a certain mood to listen to them. A rainy, dreary day usually suits. I remember the time they clicked with me though, I was staying in an Airbnb treehouse overnight with my wife. It was night time, the treehouse was lit with candles, I had a glass of red wine and my wife had just fallen asleep. I stuck on Out of Myself and just drifted away. That is still the best experience I've had with the band.
Last thing I wanted to address (and this is something Litho and I were discussing in the Deepcut.fm session) is that find it wild the amount of DTFers commenting not only that they have never heard a note of music by some of these artists (Ok, that gets a bit of a pass as not everyone checks out all the bands discussed round here) but that some of you have never even HEARD of some of these artists!
Not shaming anyone at all, I just find it crazy to think some people are hearing of these artists for the first time in this thread. I think it's also really cool though, especially if it leads people to discover something new. I can already thank the thread for helping me find a few more Zappa albums I like.
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Godspeed You! Black Emperor
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I've heard of every artist on the list so far, though there's plenty I've never actually listened to.
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I've heard of every artist on the list so far, though there's plenty I've never actually listened to.
Yea, I mean I've only heard odd songs by some of these artists and I suppose a few years ago I'd probably never listened to Miles Davis or UFO. Still find it kinda crazy, but that's probably just my perspective.
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Luke, I had the same thought. No shame from me either, just surprise. I'd think you'd have to have heard of most of these bands just from scrolling through this general music chat section. Unless they mean they've never heard of the bands aside from seeing their names here.
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40 (tie) Godspeed You! Black Emperor & Nightwish - I like GYBE a lot, especially their earlier material, but I'm not sure if they would have made my top 25. Better chance for my top 50.
Nightwish had no chance of making any rankings I made.
39 Katatonia - no chance
38 Helloween - no chance
37 Between The Buried And Me - I like them a lot, probably could have made my top 50 but probably not my top 25.
36 Anathema - I really like their best stuff, but to me they are a little too uneven to make my rankings.
35 Radiohead - great, great band, but probably not in my top 25.
33 (tie) Big Big Train & Peter Gabriel - Peter Gabriel would definitely make my top 25. I like what I've heard of Big Big Train, but I haven't listened to them enough to rank them.
32 Megadeth - no chance.
31 Riverside - Probably would have been right on the border. # 25 or 26.
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King Crimson (commenting a bit late) and Megadeth are 2 bands that didn't make my list, but I really admire. I think it's great, besides all their innovation, how King Crimson has re-invented themselves with 3 amazing albums in the 70s, 80s and 90s: Red, Discipline and THRAK. Megadeth has a solid and very good discography, still making excellent music and albums, like the last one. Though I think Rust in Peace will always be their magnum opus.
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I've heard of every artist on the list so far, though there's plenty I've never actually listened to.
Same here.
1/2 from this update!
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I own Rust in Peace by Megadeth and I'm thoroughly unimpressed with it. Just not my style of metal I guess.
Riverside, now that's the band I like a lot. Unfortunately I never had a chance to saw them live, but their studio output ranges from very solid to outstanding. No duds in their discography. I'm not as big on Anno Domini High Definition as some people here, but I'm really big on Love, Fear and the Time Machine. Awesome band.
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The only artist I was totally unfamiliar with so far has been Agalloch, who were likely just lost in the shuffle of all the other metal bands with foreign/mythical sounding names that start with A.
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Live Marty-era deth. If every album was at that level they’d rate higher. Though some of the stuff from the last 10-12 years has been great too.
Riverside are a new discovery for me. I’m hoovering up their 2-disc sets, and they’re all good. Maybe just lacking that one absolutely defining album. This time next year they will probe in my top 25. I think I had them at 27
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If I don't like the singer, I'm not going to like the band. I hated Mustaine's voice from the first time I heard a Megadeath song on the radio. I've heard OF Riverside but don't think I've ever heard anything by them.
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2 misses for me today. Don't think I've ever heard a song by either band, though Megadeth is definitely a band I keep meaning to check out.
That surprises me given your love of Metallica. I'd be curious of your take on Megadeth.
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I've heard something from all the artists so far, but there are definitely some I'm only very casually familiar with.
Megadeth isn't on my list, and Dave's vocals can be a struggle, but Rust In Peace is one of my favorite albums, there's so much incredible playing on there, particularly from Friedman. The albums with Poland and Samuleson are a bit raw, but the jazz inflections of those two worked surprisingly well, and are probably a bit underrated in presaging the direction that Atheist, Cynic, Pestilence and others took later. Verbeuren, Loureiro, Broderick, Drover, Pitrelli, there are very few bands who've had more incredible players be part of them. They even roped in Vinnie Colaiuta to drum on an album.
Riverside keeps growing on me. Not quite a favorite yet, but they're headed in that direction hopefully once I can start putting more time into their albums.
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Stadler, you buy albums by bands you actively dislike? What form of self-flagellation is this?
Lol...not to pile on, but I have found it curious over the years the lengths our man has gone through to explain (admittedly eloquently so) how much he dislikes Radiohead. Especially on the heels of someone saying how much they love the band.
To be fair, always in fun (and good taste), but, seriously, for a band you actively dislike, they sure do inspire a ton of words (or maybe, just maybe, it's starting to click?)
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Well, to Luke's question, I try to have an open mind. I used to HATE the Grateful Dead and now I have more Dead on my iPod than any other band. My tastes sometimes evolve, and I acknowledge that. I still listen to Rush's p/g once or twice a year to see if it's aged any better. I bought OK Computer because Mike had it on his alltime best list, and honestly I bought Kid A because the packaging was pretty cool (there is/was a second booklet or something under the CD tray, if I remember correctly).
As for Radiohead, that's the "active" part. I just find Thom Yorke and Johnny Greenwood to be pretentious beyond words. I thought Hail To The Thief was bereft of any artistic merit whatsoever; I thought it was largely a cheap shot and pandering. But that's me. It's cathartic to acknowledge that and move on. Repeatedly. :) :) :)
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I got Hail To The Thief in an eBay auction and it's probably the only CD I've ever considered just throwing away (others get sold on eBay; I did end up selling it).
Why would you bid on an auction for a CD by a band you don't like?
It was in a lot of CDs. I think there were seven or eight. I don't remember the whole lineup, but there were two others I REALLY wanted and I figured I could just sell the ones I didn't want. Or, as the case may be, toss it in the trash bin. :) :) :)
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53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
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31. Riverside
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Highest Finish: 3 (Setlist Scotty)
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I know nothing about Riverside. I'm kind of surprised the placed so high because I don't feel like I see them mentioned as much as some of the bands that placed lower on the list.
I'm honestly surprised they finished so low. I would've thought top 20 at least. They have a little bit of everything in their music for everyone. Heavy, soft, melodic, weird, nostalgic, whatever it is you want, they got it. Second Life Syndrome is still, to me, one of my favorite songs of all time. Also, they are one of the best sounding live shows I seen.
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Highest Finish: 3 (Setlist Scotty)
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I know nothing about Riverside. I'm kind of surprised the placed so high because I don't feel like I see them mentioned as much as some of the bands that placed lower on the list.
I'm honestly surprised they finished so low. I would've thought top 20 at least. They have a little bit of everything in their music for everyone. Heavy, soft, melodic, weird, nostalgic, whatever it is you want, they got it. Second Life Syndrome is still, to me, one of my favorite songs of all time. Also, they are one of the best sounding live shows I seen.
31st place out of 400+ is pretty good to me. I wasn't expecting them to pop up at all in the top 50 so this was a pleasant surprise.
-Marc.
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Megadeth are pretty great, and awesome live (at least 15-ish years ago). Those were some of most brutal pits I have witnessed. I will get the occasional itch to listen to a handful of my favorite songs by them, because when they write a good song, it's usually excellent.
I am warming up to Riverside thanks to my completed roulette, where I got 2 songs sent, and both scored really well. They are on my radar for when my current roulette finishes.
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I guess those that know feel like they are low, and those who don’t know are surprised they are here at all.
Setlist Scotty sent me my first taste of Riverside, and now I’m a full blown fan boy. And even then they came in at 23. But for an all time list, that’s pretty good.
I suppose the only reason I put them that low is because their work can be a bit spotty to me. ADHD is their only perfect, untouchable, flawless album. Literally a 5-way tie for my favorite song from that album. But all the rest have their ups and downs (but mostly ups) and the last two haven’t really clicked with me.
I haven’t really followed Megadeth since Marty left. But I did manage to get my hands on and enjoy Cryptic Writings and TWNAH.
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Last thing I wanted to address (and this is something Litho and I were discussing in the Deepcut.fm session) is that find it wild the amount of DTFers commenting not only that they have never heard a note of music by some of these artists (Ok, that gets a bit of a pass as not everyone checks out all the bands discussed round here) but that some of you have never even HEARD of some of these artists!
Not shaming anyone at all, I just find it crazy to think some people are hearing of these artists for the first time in this thread. I think it's also really cool though, especially if it leads people to discover something new. I can already thank the thread for helping me find a few more Zappa albums I like...
Pretty much sums up my thoughts too. While quite surprised am also excited for those who are yet to hear for the first time some of the terrific bands being discussed here ;)
Had Megadeth at #18 and surprised I didn't have them higher.
Youthanasia turned 29yrs this week so have been spinning that one again but tbf it's never long between spins anyway, but what a killer album. The entire Marty era is essential metal fer my ears! :metal
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Isn't that just it though, I have Megadeth at #9, yet I can't get on with Youthanasia at all. I rank it pretty much at the bottom of Megadeth albums, along with The World Needs a Hero and Th1rt3en.
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Isn't that just it though, I have Megadeth at #9, yet I can't get on with Youthanasia at all. I rank it pretty much at the bottom of Megadeth albums, along with The World Needs a Hero and Th1rt3en.
HA! Yeah there does seem quite the divide with Youthanasia and granted it's more melodic less metal smoothed edges and whatnot, but hey I love it Rust and Countdown equally.
And only because you mention it gotta say am very partial to World Needs A Hero too albeit not on the same level but a few of its songs fer sure. Disconnect in particular is fantastic. Saw a local show here for that tour and it was a blast \m/
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Friday update!
30. Kiss
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 13,092,452
Highest Finish: 3 (Stadler)
Number of Lists appeared on: 7 (DTwwbwMP, Stadler, TAC, devieira73, Zydar, Trav86, WilliamMunny)
I've heard a decent bit of Kiss in my lifetime, my dad was a pretty big fan of them. They never really clicked with me but I'll stand by their unplugged album as one of the best unplugged sets released.
29. Ayreon
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 101,278
Highest Finish: 1 (Evermind)
Number of Lists appeared on: 6 (jingle.boy, LithoJazzoSphere, SwedishGoose, The Letter M, SomeoneLikeHim, Evermind)
Another group I'm not too familiar with.
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I'm a big fan of Kiss, especially the makeup years. I had them as high as #4. They're one of the few hard rock bands I still actively listen to. I feel like a lot of people dismiss them for a couple of reasons - the makeup, the spectacle of the live show, Gene $immons, etc. But if they just focus on the actual music there's plenty of great stuff to find. Ace's bluesy lead solos, Paul's great vocals (not so much these days), Gene's melodic bass lines, Peter's groove on the drums. I discovered them when I was 15 (around Christmas 1996) and I've been a fan since. Their output from the mid-to-late 80s are a bit too "hair metal" for my taste, but the early stuff is awesome. Check out songs like Deuce, Detroit Rock City, Love Gun, and Creatures Of The Night. Oh, and I find The Elder to be among their best albums ever.
Ayreon didn't make my list, I'm not too familiar with all his stuff. But I really enjoy Into The Electric Castle and a few songs from the other albums.
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Also not sure if I have ever heard of a KISS song before. Obviously very aware of them.
Ayreon - I have heard The Human Equation, and it's pretty good from what I remember, but it's been at least a decade or more since I have heard it. I just looked up the song I love from that album, Day Eleven: Love is incredible.
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0/2 on that update, though I'm surprised Aryeon didn't place higher
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Friday update!
30. Kiss
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Highest Finish: 3 (Stadler)
Number of Lists appeared on: 7 (DTwwbwMP, Stadler, TAC, devieira73, Zydar, Trav86, WilliamMunny)
I've heard a decent bit of Kiss in my lifetime, my dad was a pretty big fan of them. They never really clicked with me but I'll stand by their unplugged album as one of the best unplugged sets released.
29. Ayreon
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 101,278
Highest Finish: 1 (Evermind)
Number of Lists appeared on: 6 (jingle.boy, LithoJazzoSphere, SwedishGoose, The Letter M, SomeoneLikeHim, Evermind)
Another group I'm not too familiar with.
KISS!
There have been several points in my life where the mighty KISS would have been my number one (I had them at 14), but they are and always will be near and dear.
I came up with '80s KISS, only to discover and fall in love with '70s KISS in my teens (during the '90s).
I saw them multiple times during the '90s and '00s during their string of reunion tours, but regrettably never saw them with the '80s lineup.
The first time, however, back in '96, changed my life.
I've spoken about how seeing QR on the Promised Land tour remains a high-water mark for me in terms of concerts, but it was those first few bars of "Deuce" back in '96 that made me realize that I NEEDED to play in a band, no matter what!
KISS will likely never receive the critical reappraisal that the likes of Queen and Zeppelin have enjoyed, but for me, they are on equal ground with any band from their era.
And for anyone who's never understood the hype, but that maybe wants to check them out, I promise you there's something for everyone in their admittedly 'all-over-the-place' catalog.
–Nuggets-era Garage? Check out the self-titled debut (or Dressed to Kill).
–Vintage '70s Arena Rock? You can't go wrong with Love Gun (or Rock 'n Roll Over).
–The Blueprint for Kyuss? You NEED to listen to Ace's first solo album.
–Borderline Metal (circa '81)? Creatures of the Night!
–Glossy AOR Hair-Metal? Give Crazy Nights a spin!
–One of the most underrated albums of the '90s? Revenge might be for you.
I could go on and on, but seriously, I can't say enough about this band.
Finally, for anyone who might be interested, the following article by Chuck Klosterman remains one of the most impressiver primers for a band that I've ever read.
https://grantland.com/features/chuck-klosterman-kiss-hall-of-fame/ (https://grantland.com/features/chuck-klosterman-kiss-hall-of-fame/)
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Not my cup of tea.... it's fine if it comes up somewhere but nothing I want to listen to
Ayreon
Has become a huge favorite of mine espescially after seeing The Electric Castle and Other Stories and 01011001 Live Beneath the Waves in Tillburg.
Two of my absolute favorite concerts ever.... only Peter Gabriel with Secret World tour can get ahead and that is possibly only by nostalgia factor.
The Human Equation is a must listen for all fans of DT as it has James LaBrie as the main character. Totally awesome album.
01011001 and The Source are two other great albums.
Heck I even love the much critizised Transittus album.
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2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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I probably first heard KISS on the soundtrack to Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey, back in '91. That film was a huge deal to me back in the day and although I thought God Gave Rock n Roll to You II was ok, it was never something that stuck with me, unlike Play with Me in the first movie. I think part of the biggest reason I don't like KISS is Gene Simmons. I mean, I do like some bands that feature egotistical assholes, but I like the music enough to see past that. Unfortunately I was never able to do that with KISS.
Ayreon are pretty good, and I think the run of albums from Into the Electric Castle to 01011001 is really, really good. I heard Star One before I heard Ayreon, and loved the concept of those records. Ayreon have their own concept, however my biggest problem with Ayreon is that there are so many recycled musical ideas. There is no mistaking the sound of the band, which can be a good thing, but listening through their whole catalogue (especially outside of the albums I really like) I just feel I've heard it all before. I have always been impressed by the roster of vocalists that Arjen is able to assemble, but on the most recent albums, not even they can save the mediocrity of the music (to me).
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Miles Davis
Symphony X
Agalloch
King Crimson
Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Evergrey
UFO
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Nightwish
Katatonia
Helloween
Between the Buried and Me
Anathema
Radiohead
Big Big Train
Peter Gabriel
Riverside
KISS
Ayreon
25. Avenged Sevenfold (Favourite Album: City of Evil. Favourite Song: Cosmic)
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Wow, I figured Ayreon was a lock for the top 20. I am a bit shocked to see them finish so low. Granted, 29 is probably about where I would have them (maybe a touch higher), but it feels like they have quite a few huge fans here, making me think many of them did not participate in this.
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Friday update!
30. Kiss
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 13,092,452
Highest Finish: 3 (Stadler)
Number of Lists appeared on: 7 (DTwwbwMP, Stadler, TAC, devieira73, Zydar, Trav86, WilliamMunny)
I've heard a decent bit of Kiss in my lifetime, my dad was a pretty big fan of them. They never really clicked with me but I'll stand by their unplugged album as one of the best unplugged sets released.
29. Ayreon
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 101,278
Highest Finish: 1 (Evermind)
Number of Lists appeared on: 6 (jingle.boy, LithoJazzoSphere, SwedishGoose, The Letter M, SomeoneLikeHim, Evermind)
Another group I'm not too familiar with.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
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I've never gotten into Kiss so they weren't gonna make my lost but I respect their placement here. Ayreon made number ten for me and I'm surprised to see it here! Top 30 baby, and just under the Top 7% of all bands submitted, which is fine by me. The Human Equation is an eternal classic for me, but I also really love both Universal Migrator albums and of course, Into The Electric Castle. Then again, I feel like I was the only one here who actually liked Transitus and I also really love The Theory Of Everything, especially being one of John Wetton's last big albums.
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more misses for me. wouldn't put either of those bands on my list in a million years
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however my biggest problem with Ayreon is that there are so many recycled musical ideas. There is no mistaking the sound of the band, which can be a good thing, but listening through their whole catalogue (especially outside of the albums I really like) I just feel I've heard it all before.
I can absolutely agree with you on this. IMO, this REALLY started showing at The Source, and I'm honestly quite unimpressed with his output over the last 6 years. I did not enjoy Transitus, and both the Supersonic Revolution thing and Star Three One were mildly above "mediocre". But everything up to The Source is fucking great. My rating (as I mentioned from the outset) includes all things Arjen, so the first two Star One albums really help pull up my ranking for "Ayreon". Those two albums both made my original Top 50 of all time list, with Space Metal being in the Top 10.
I had Ayreon pegged as a "maybe" to make the Top 25, so I'm not totally surprised they fell short. If Nick (not nick) had submitted a list, I'm sure they would've been his #2 or #3. But, I'm sure most or all bands from 26-30 will fall into the category of "if XX had submitted, they'd have made the list". My standard response to "if / then" - If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.
Kiss... I'm in the Like/not Love category. There's just too much of them to go back and try to familiarize myself with. When I first heard them (Smashes/Thrashes), I enjoyed it well enough, but it didn't wow me enough at the time to dig thru such a large back catalogue - I connected with a few other bands more, and followed them thru Crazy Nights/Hot in the Shade/Revenge. In hindsight, those probably weren't the best 3 albums to try to get connected to the band with. :lol The Alive albums kick all kinds of ass.
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I put Ayreon at number 14, probably would have been top 10 some years ago. I have always had a soft spot for concept albums so discovering Ayreon was like christmas for me. Into the Electric Castle is my favorite but there are lots of great ones. Love the expansive casts, the intertwining stories and the great melodies all over.
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Mildly surprised to see Kiss finish this high, but I guess it shouldn’t be a total shock. I do like that song off the Bill and Ted soundtrack (which was a great soundtrack!). Otherwise never cared for them.
Ayreon isn’t my thing either. What I’ve heard seemed a bit over the top. Can’t say I’ve given them a deep listen though.
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Mildly surprised to see Kiss finish this high, but I guess it shouldn’t be a total shock. I do like that song off the Bill and Ted soundtrack (which was a great soundtrack!).
That song is terrible (imo). Actually, it's a good song, just a terrible song for Kiss.
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Mildly surprised to see Kiss finish this high, but I guess it shouldn’t be a total shock. I do like that song off the Bill and Ted soundtrack (which was a great soundtrack!).
That song is terrible (imo). Actually, it's a good song, just a terrible song for Kiss.
:dunno:
Well, that makes sense then!
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KISS!! :metal
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KISS is OK, I don't dislike them, but no way would they have made my list.
Ayreon is also OK, I certainly don't dislike anything I've heard from them, but very little of it has made a real impact. Another no-rank for me.
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I truly love KISS (my #19). If I'm a rock fan, it's mostly because of KISS. I remember listening constantly Creatures of the Night and Destroyer prior to the 83 Maracanã show in Rio de Janeiro. Well, my father didn't allow me to go to the show with my older brother (I was only 9 years old!), but nothing that stoped me from collect every album before and after that. Love their discography, specially from Alive! to Psycho Circus, a lot of very good albums and great songs, including the somewhat underappreciated 80's era (the only 80's album that I consider weak is Asylum, honestly).
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And another 0-fer. KISS (that's the name...they may look insane!*) was GIGANTIC when I was coming through elementary school. We had a talent show, and the act that won was some guys that lip-synched to KISS. The runner up was a girl that did a really incredible solo piano performance. That prompted the powers-that-be at my school to ban lip-synch acts from future talent shows. Even though I wasn't much a fan, I damn sure tuned in to see them take off the makeup on MTV and watch the premier of "Lick It Up." KISS probably has an album's worth of songs that I really like, but that wasn't enough to get them on my list. No idea who Ayreon is.
* - https://youtu.be/X5q-HXOwSIM?si=ZVxEI4TE9_tJU5VQ (one of the most memorable commercials from my childhood)
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Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeath, Riverside, KISS, Ayreon
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We had a talent show, and the act that won was some guys that lip-synched to KISS.
Shit dude... same thing one year for me in High-School.
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KISS is ok. On the whole, not really my thing, but they have a few good songs. I tend to struggle with bands that seem to prioritize spectacle, image, and merchandising over music though.
Ayreon is on my list.
however my biggest problem with Ayreon is that there are so many recycled musical ideas. There is no mistaking the sound of the band, which can be a good thing, but listening through their whole catalogue (especially outside of the albums I really like) I just feel I've heard it all before.
I can absolutely agree with you on this. IMO, this REALLY started showing at The Source, and I'm honestly quite unimpressed with his output over the last 6 years. I did not enjoy Transitus, and both the Supersonic Revolution thing and Star Three One were mildly above "mediocre". But everything up to The Source is fucking great. My rating (as I mentioned from the outset) includes all things Arjen, so the first two Star One albums really help pull up my ranking for "Ayreon". Those two albums both made my original Top 50 of all time list, with Space Metal being in the Top 10.
My golden age for them goes through 01011001. [Maybe Victims of the Modern Age counting adjacent projects.] I also agree that his more recent output seems weaker, though I suspect it's partly that I just haven't spent as much time with it. I was almost tempted to put Star One as my main submission though, because Space Metal is my favorite thing he's done. Perfect casting ensemble, and it really opened up my musical world, so many of my favorite artists are linked to the Arjenverse.
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NR Miles Davis (Would probably make my top 100 even though I've only heard less than half of his stuff. Favorite albums are probably In a Silent Way and Get Up With It)
NR King Crimson (Another that would make my top 100, maybe even top 50. Favorite albums, Red and Discipline)
NR Avenged Sevenfold (A top 50 band most likely. Favorite albums, City of Evil and The Stage)
NR Scorpions (A top 100 band. One of my dad's favorite bands. Favorite albums, Taken By Force and Love At First Sting)
NR Frank Zappa (Kind of the same situation as Miles Davis, except Frank has some stuff that I absolutely don't like, so probably wouldn't be a top 100 artist. Favorite albums, Joe's Garage and Hot Rats)
NR Evergrey (As I mentioned earlier they have some decent albums and their latest may actually be my favorite, but I still don't like Tom Englund's vocals)
NR UFO (A band that I haven't listened to enough. I keep intending on doing a deep dive. I do really like the album Walk On Water)
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor (A band that had 3 masterpieces to start and on the strength of those would have made my top 50, but everything they've done since has been fairly bland)
NR Nightwish (A band that I strongly considered for my initial list and might be in my top 50. Favorite albums, Dark Passion Play and Once
NR Katatonia (A top 100 band easily. Favorite albums, Brave Murder Day and The Fall of Hearts)
NR Helloween (Another top 100 band even though they have about 7 terrible albums. Favorite albums, Keeper of the Seven Keys (both parts) and Gambling With the Devil)
NR Radiohead (Wouldn't sniff my top 100, but I do like some of their stuff. I also find a lot of their stuff extremely boring. Favorite albums, OK Computer and In Rainbows)
NR Big Big Train (A band that keeps rising in my ranks, but is probably still outside of the top 50. Favorite Albums, The Underfall Yard and both parts of English Electric)
NR Peter Gabriel (Kind of forgot about him, but would still be outside my top 50. Great artist though. Favorite albums, the third self-titled (aka Melt) and So)
NR Megadeth (My second favorite of the big 4. Don't like all of their albums, but enough to probably land in my top 100. Favorite albums, Rust In Peace and Dystopia)
NR Kiss (I guess I shouldn't be surprised they are in the collective top 50, but man....they'd probably sit in my bottom 50. Do.Not.Like. I mean, I grew up gaining a love of rock music from Rush, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, and Def Leppard. Kiss was just boring and toothless in comparison.
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Really glad we did a Top 50 now because otherwise my #1 wouldn't be on the list at all :lol I was sure Ayreon would be in the Top 25.
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Well, I've talked about Ayreon a lot on this forum already, so what can I say. Two of the albums are in my Top 10 of all time. I travelled abroad three times to see them live, in 2015 for The Theater Equation (which is the best concert I attended, ever), in 2017 for Ayreon Universe and in 2019 for Into the Electric Castle show (saw that three times thanks to Nick grabbing VIP tickets and tickets for the dress rehersal show at 4 AM :lol ). I would've travelled this year too for 01011001, but yeah. Anyway, great time in the Netherlands all three times and very warm memories of those trips and shows.
I also lumped other Arjen projects there—love The Gentle Storm and Guilt Machine, really like Star One. Nowadays Arjen's output is a little spotty but the run from Into the Electric Castle to The Source (with all the projects inbetween) is phenomenal.
Recommended song listen: Day Two: Isolation (https://open.spotify.com/track/74r3Ldj9d98i4iS7pENZ7J?si=93f8d4a73a664b1b)
Recommended album listen: The Human Equation (https://open.spotify.com/album/3mLnqsQ4o8hPPj8s2yfYeI)
Never really cared about Kiss even though they're well known over here.
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Thanks to ReaperKK I have my list back.
19. Megadeth
8. Symphony X
7. Scorpions
Of the bands that didn't make my top 25, UFO would have been closest followed by Ayreon.
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This is quite the interesting update
28. Spock's Beard
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Spotify Profile (https://open.spotify.com/artist/1HN6EhIK1fRYk5gtXHclZv?si=3EidzUe-Sc-uuYfP7TyG_Q)
Monthly Spotify Streams: 22,090
Highest Finish: 4 (The Great Zo)
Number of Lists appeared on: 7 (coz, HOF, jingle.boy, jammindude, The Letter M, The Great Zo, SomeonelLIkeHim)
I've heard one song by Spock's Beard and I really dug it. These guys have been on my list to check out for ages, I just haven't made the time. Looking at their RYM profile I'm surprised they have such a large discography.
27. Neal Morse
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 49,838
Highest Finish: 2 (bosk1)
Number of Lists appeared on: 6 (DTwwbwMP, Metropolaris, Stadler, The Letter M, SomeoneLikeHim, bosk1)
I've tried to get into Neal's music multiple times but it never sticks. From the solo side of things the only album I've heard start to finish is Sola Gratia which I didn't care for.
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Yeah, 0/2. I own some Neal Morse albums (Similitude of a Dream is my favourite by far) and some Spock's Beard albums (Brief Nocturnes and Dreamless Sleep is pretty good) but both of them had no chance making my list.
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Spock's Beard
Love Spock's Beard since they opened up for DT on the Scenes From A Memory tour.
Lost them for a bit when Neal Morse left but have been listening to them and seeing them live a couple of times in the last couple of years.
They would probably be around 40 on my list.
Neal Morse
For a long while I did not listen to NM solo afer leaving SB until a friend sent me a DVD and hooked me.
But it was not until he formed The Neal Morse Band that it really clicked.
Solo Neal Morse would probably be around 50 or 60.
One question arises in my head: have people lumped solo NM with NMB?
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Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse
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2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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Yeah, 0/2. I own some Neal Morse albums (Similitude of a Dream is my favourite by far) and some Spock's Beard albums (Brief Nocturnes and Dreamless Sleep is pretty good) but both of them had no chance making my list.
The Similitude of a Dream is a The Neal Morse Band album, not solo NM though.
Awesome album and tour though....
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I've heard a few albums from each, enjoyed them, but have never really been compelled to return to them a lot. Maybe one day they'll click. I've found that I'm a bit pickier about neo-prog and modern-ish but retro-styled prog rock than I am about the classic bands or more modern prog metal ones.
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I thought about Spock's Beard, but it's really only the Neal Morse era that grabs me, and that's only a fraction of their catalogue.
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Some catching up to do here...
So, after Anathema (which was my #17), no hits for me.
Radiohead: Never really got into them, and not for lack of trying. Not in a self-flagellation kind of way ;) It's just that there are things I enjoy in their discography but, as other have mentioned, Yorke's vocals are a bit of an obstacle. In some cases, I like the musical influence they've had on other bands more than their music itself, if that makes any sense.
Big Big Train: Relatively recent discovery, in part thanks to DTF. I already owned, and liked, The Underfall Yard, but the appreciation here on the forum made me explore more. Lovely music, for sure.
Peter Gabriel: Not top 25, would likely make my top 50. Love his solo stuff, perhaps even more than his work with Genesis. I've always admired his way of thinking ahead, in terms of music and technology, and the visuals of his shows (although sometimes he does come across as, um, "self-important" or something). My favorites are 1, 3, 4 and So.
Megadeth: Another one that would probably make my top 50. Lots of classic stuff in their discography. My favorites are Peace Sells and Rust in Peace. I have a fondness for Countdown too. They've obviously become more of a Dave & Friends type of thing over the recent years, but the last couple of records are surprisingly good and "vital".
Riverside: Very good modern/moody prog band. Never quite crossed into "great" category for me, but I generally enjoy their records. ADHD and Second Life Syndrome are probably my favorites. I found their album from this year quite tasty, with its 80s vibes.
Kiss: Well, I own most of their albums, recognize their place in the classic rock canon and think there is actually quite a bit of substance beyond the "show"...but I don't actively go for their music very often. Just not 100% my thing, overall.
Ayreon: I enjoyed their early albums a fair bit - The Final Experiment and Into the Electric Castle, in particular, were fun (and slightly ridiculous, in the best possible way) prog-oriented romps. Especially at the time, they were almost brave in their being over the top. And who could resist all of those amazing guest singers? I followed them for a while, but slowly lost interest. Just didn't particularly connect with the music as much, beyond the curiosity of who was singing.
Spock's Beard: Found out about them in the mid-90s, around the time Beware of Darkness came out, thanks to an MP interview in a magazine, where he was praising them as one of the best new prog bands around. As someone consistently hungry for good prog at the time, I could pass on that :) I was a pretty big fan for a while...my favorite of theirs is probably The Kindness of Strangers - I love how it combines the prog with a more easy-listening approach. When Snow came out, I didn't love it as much as people generally seemed to. And after that, I kind of lost track and didn't follow the post-NM era as closely...
Neal Morse: ...and it wasn't really because of NM leaving...proof being I never got into his solo career, or his Neal Morse Band stuff, even after the involvement of MP. Not sure why, but whenever I've tried, the material just didn't connect. Might try again down the road...
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I had SB in the "pretty sure they'll make it" list, so I guess 28 is about as close as it's going to get. I did have NM/NMB pegged for one of the acts I didn't vote for that might be in the Top 25. I enjoy virtually all of NM/NMB (I'm not really sure how to distinguish between the two), but I find a lot of his immediate post-SB stuff to be quite samey.
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One question arises in my head: have people lumped solo NM with NMB?
I definitely did.
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This is quite the interesting update
28. Spock's Beard
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Spotify Profile (https://open.spotify.com/artist/1HN6EhIK1fRYk5gtXHclZv?si=3EidzUe-Sc-uuYfP7TyG_Q)
Monthly Spotify Streams: 22,090
Highest Finish: 4 (The Great Zo)
Number of Lists appeared on: 7 (coz, HOF, jingle.boy, jammindude, The Letter M, The Great Zo, SomeonelLIkeHim)
I've heard one song by Spock's Beard and I really dug it. These guys have been on my list to check out for ages, I just haven't made the time. Looking at their RYM profile I'm surprised they have such a large discography.
27. Neal Morse
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 49,838
Highest Finish: 2 (bosk1)
Number of Lists appeared on: 6 (DTwwbwMP, Metropolaris, Stadler, The Letter M, SomeoneLikeHim, bosk1)
I've tried to get into Neal's music multiple times but it never sticks. From the solo side of things the only album I've heard start to finish is Sola Gratia which I didn't care for.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
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Very wild that they ended up together! They were 7th and 6th for me, and I've been quite a bit fan of Neal and SB for nearly 20 years now, discovered from finding Transatlantic via Portnoy (after becoming a fan of DT), and I suspect I'm not the only one here who did that as well.
One question arises in my head: have people lumped solo NM with NMB?
In my mind I did, and it's how I've organized my physical and digital collection. Granted as the NMB grew and made more music, it became more collaborative and less "Neal's demos played by everyone else".
-Marc.
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0/2 for me today yet again.
I've checked my last.fm and confirmed my suspicions. I've never listened to a full album by either Spock's Beard (although I think I checked out The Light before I started using Last.fm) or Neal Morse. So come on DTFers, what are the top 2 albums for each artist to check out? I know Neal is in multiple bands so it can be the best 2 albums he features on.
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Miles Davis
Symphony X
Agalloch
King Crimson
Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Evergrey
UFO
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Nightwish
Katatonia
Helloween
Between the Buried and Me
Anathema
Radiohead
Big Big Train
Peter Gabriel
Riverside
KISS
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I assume the way it is listed means that is just solo Neal Morse. If I had done this, I likely would have put Neal Morse and Neal Morse Band together simply because there are enough connective tissues even though they are technically different things. Likely would have ranked 4th or 5th for me.
I love Spock's Beard, but I find that I don't listen to them that much anymore. They still would have made my top 25, but likely near the bottom.
twosuitsluke, my recs for both are:
One and ? for solo Neal Morse (put The Similitude of a Dream at the top if we can count Neal Morse Band)
Beware of Darkness and The Light for Spock's Beard
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twosuitsluke, my recs for both are:
One and ? for solo Neal Morse (put The Similitude of a Dream at the top if we can count Neal Morse Band)
Beware of Darkness and The Light for Spock's Beard
Cheers Kev, I'd get on this but why are literally none of these albums on Spotify?
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twosuitsluke, my recs for both are:
One and ? for solo Neal Morse (put The Similitude of a Dream at the top if we can count Neal Morse Band)
Beware of Darkness and The Light for Spock's Beard
Cheers Kev, I'd get on this but why are literally none of these albums on Spotify?
I don't do Spotify, but I know that Neal keeps a lot of his stuff on his own streaming service, so I am sure that is why.
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Yup, it's just NM. I don't really agree with listing the two together. To me it'd be like putting Steven Wilson and Porcupine Tree together.
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twosuitsluke, my recs for both are:
One and ? for solo Neal Morse (put The Similitude of a Dream at the top if we can count Neal Morse Band)
Beware of Darkness and The Light for Spock's Beard
Cheers Kev, I'd get on this but why are literally none of these albums on Spotify?
I don't do Spotify, but I know that Neal keeps a lot of his stuff on his own streaming service, so I am sure that is why.
I did always want to do a NM run through but not having his music on Spotify is a big hinderance. I know some of his more recent stuff is on there though. It's how I heard the last couple NMB albums.
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9. Megadeth (Favourite Album: Rust in Peace. Favourite Song: Washington is Next!)
Ha! That's an unusual pick for favorite song. I mean, I agree it's a great tune (in fact, the one-two opener of UA sets a very high bar that sadly - imo - is not met on the rest of the album), just not one you see often as #1. Maybe I'll put it on now :)
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Yup, it's just NM. I don't really agree with listing the two together. To me it'd be like putting Steven Wilson and Porcupine Tree together.
I think the differences between PT and SW are much bigger than between NM and NMB, but I get it. :tup :tup
I did always want to do a NM run through but not having his music on Spotify is a big hinderance. I know some of his more recent stuff is on there though. It's how I heard the last couple NMB albums.
It is hard to argue with how Neal does things, as he seems to have made a very nice living for himself despite having a pretty small niche audience, but between the streaming stuff and allowing Radiant to consistently get away with such poor customer service, it can be head scratching at times.
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twosuitsluke, my recs for both are:
One and ? for solo Neal Morse (put The Similitude of a Dream at the top if we can count Neal Morse Band)
Beware of Darkness and The Light for Spock's Beard
Cheers Kev, I'd get on this but why are literally none of these albums on Spotify?
I don't do Spotify, but I know that Neal keeps a lot of his stuff on his own streaming service, so I am sure that is why.
I did always want to do a NM run through but not having his music on Spotify is a big hinderance. I know some of his more recent stuff is on there though. It's how I heard the last couple NMB albums.
Yea, it'd probably be a hindrance to me too. There looks to be greatest hits albums on Spotify for both SB and NM, so I'll probably just hit them up.
9. Megadeth (Favourite Album: Rust in Peace. Favourite Song: Washington is Next!)
Ha! That's an unusual pick for favorite song. I mean, I agree it's a great tune (in fact, the one-two opener of UA sets a very high bar that sadly - imo - is not met on the rest of the album), just not one you see often as #1. Maybe I'll put it on now :)
To be fair, it's probably not my actual #1, that could be literally any song (other than Dawn Patrol) on RIP. It's more like an underrated fave of mine that I wanted to get recognition :lol
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Yup, it's just NM. I don't really agree with listing the two together. To me it'd be like putting Steven Wilson and Porcupine Tree together.
I think the differences between PT and SW are much bigger than between NM and NMB, but I get it. :tup :tup
I did always want to do a NM run through but not having his music on Spotify is a big hinderance. I know some of his more recent stuff is on there though. It's how I heard the last couple NMB albums.
It is hard to argue with how Neal does things, as he seems to have made a very nice living for himself despite having a pretty small niche audience, but between the streaming stuff and allowing Radiant to consistently get away with such poor customer service, it can be head scratching at times.
This is gonna sound mean but whenever Neal releases something new I like going over to the NM thread and seeing the new and excited ways Radiant failed to fulfill orders :lol
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twosuitsluke, my recs for both are:
One and ? for solo Neal Morse (put The Similitude of a Dream at the top if we can count Neal Morse Band)
Beware of Darkness and The Light for Spock's Beard
Cheers Kev, I'd get on this but why are literally none of these albums on Spotify?
Yeah, Neal Morse was originally opposed to putting his music on streaming services at all, and then he ended up making his own app that streams his own music and some associated acts. There are some recent albums where it seems like the label pressed on him to put them on streaming, but none of the Neal era SB, the first two TA, and most of his early solo albums are on streaming.
YouTube may have some of it now. For Spock’s, I’d recommend starting with V probably. Kindness of Strangers is probably my favorite but it’s a bit low budget sounding (as is The Light).
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Spock’s Beard is my number 7, and while it’s awesome they finished next to each other on the list, I didn’t actually rank Neal Morse solo. I sort of made a decision to rank him with SB, because that is still by far my favorite era of his work (along with the first 2 TA albums).
I got into SB by way of Transatlantic when I was in college, and most of the albums through Snow hold a very special place for me. Some close association with good times. It took me much longer to track down a copy of The Light, and that one doesn’t have the same nostalgia to it for me, but I love the title track still. Everything in the Neal era is brilliant, and I really liked Feel Euphoria when it came out, but thought that Octane was a let down. Then I kind of stopped following prog for a little while, and didn’t get back into the band until X came out. There are some outstanding songs on X, but also some weak spots that hold it back for me. But it got me back listening to the NDV era. The first one from the Ted era to really grab me was Noise Floor, and I think it’s my favorite of the post-Neal albums. But Brief Nocturnes has some great moments too. Watching the reunion concert of Snow helped solidify for me how much this band has meant to me over the years.
So why no Neal on my list? After the split, I was pretty bummed about losing both SB and TA as I knew them. And then while I generally liked Testimony, parts of it I found myself forcing myself to like because it was Neal. When One came out, I felt like I was just going through the motions and had to like it because it was Neal. That one was a real letdown for me. I stopped following his solo career for a while, but did get back into it some later after Flying Colors restocked my interest in Neal. I feel like his solo writing is missing some of the charms of the early SB and TA stuff. I think he captures more of that in his more singer/songwriter stuff, and those are my favorite of his solo albums (the first two especially that pre-date Testimony are much closer to SB).
All that to say, I could have still ranked him because he is one of my all time favorite musicians, but less so as a solo artist.
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A couple of mine have been revealed since my last update! Kiss almost made my 25.
Similar to others' view on NM, I've lost a lot of interest since he left the Beard. The preachiness is a hindrance for me and a lot of it IS very samey. Small doses of solo NM/NMB for me only thanks. Still really appreciate his work with TA, SB and FC.
The Megadave band I still enjoy all versions of. I can see how he/his voice grates on others. But it works for me. Some ups and downs but the latest release is killer.
SB has just been a fun experience since being introduced to them on the SFAM tour. All the guys are great. Bummer when Neal left. Thankfully the rest of the guys have plugged away giving us some great music! For the newcomer, I'd recommend The Kindness of Strangers and V.
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Forgot to update when Riverside where mentioned, but yeah, they also made my list. Great band, even if their last few albums have been mid.
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I had Spock’s Beard at 21 based on the strength of the first six albums, which are absolutely untouchable. The best ones to my ears are The Kindness of Strangers and V.
The only two post-NM SB albums I’ve heard are Brief Nocturnes and The Oblivion Particle. Parts of them I love and parts are just ok. But I’ve been meaning to check out more. I just rejected the band going on without him at first because it felt like Porcupine Tree without Steven Wilson or Twisted Sister without Dee Snider. But I’m over it now and curious enough to keep an open mind.
Neal Morse solo is something I could never get into. I’m a man of faith and a minister, but my studies of the actual Bible text has led me to reject many so called “Christian” traditional teachings (like the immortality of the soul, for instance) and so hearing a bunch of religious music that just regurgitates a lot of those traditional beliefs is a big turn off for me. Someone did talk me into picking up Simultude, and I wasn’t impressed. So I never checked anything else out and I don’t think I would. I don’t mind when he tackles the basic concept of the search for one’s spiritual side (Stranger in Your Soul by TA is a fantastic example) but he can crossover into preaching traditional dogma and I just shut down immediately.
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So NM and NMB are on this list separately? Also, what is the difference? I thought I knew but I don't think I do. Which one would ? and One fall under, for example?
Edit: I didn't know about the streaming app until I saw Kev mention it: https://waterfallstreaming.com/
I guess there was more differentiation between the band and just him in 2015, which is when I stopped paying attention to new music :lol
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Both of these would have made my list. :tup
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I had Spock’s Beard at 21 based on the strength of the first six albums, which are absolutely untouchable. The best ones to my ears are The Kindness of Strangers and V.
The only two post-NM SB albums I’ve heard are Brief Nocturnes and The Oblivion Particle. Parts of them I love and parts are just ok. But I’ve been meaning to check out more. I just rejected the band going on without him at first because it felt like Porcupine Tree without Steven Wilson or Twisted Sister without Dee Snider. But I’m over it now and curious enough to keep an open mind.
Neal Morse solo is something I could never get into. I’m a man of faith and a minister, but my studies of the actual Bible text has led me to reject many so called “Christian” traditional teachings (like the immortality of the soul, for instance) and so hearing a bunch of religious music that just regurgitates a lot of those traditional beliefs is a big turn off for me. Someone did talk me into picking up Simultude, and I wasn’t impressed. So I never checked anything else out and I don’t think I would. I don’t mind when he tackles the basic concept of the search for one’s spiritual side (Stranger in Your Soul by TA is a fantastic example) but he can crossover into preaching traditional dogma and I just shut down immediately.
If you want a more "secular" Neal Morse solo/band experience, definitely look into Momentum (his last solo album before forming NMB), and The Grand Experiment, the first NMB album. Both are about as secular as any post-SB Neal you could get that isn't a folky singer-songwriter album or TA/FC. There are hints to spiritual concepts, but only as much as SB or TA were.
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Cool! Thanks M! I will dig those up! :tup
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So NM and NMB are on this list separately? Also, what is the difference? I thought I knew but I don't think I do. Which one would ? and One fall under, for example?
Edit: I didn't know about the streaming app until I saw Kev mention it: https://waterfallstreaming.com/
I guess there was more differentiation between the band and just him in 2015, which is when I stopped paying attention to new music :lol
Neal Morse (solo) consists of any album produced and released by Neal that doesn't involve all five members of the NMB. And NMB has only really released four studio albums and corresponding live albums for those tours. You could probably count all the Morsefest albums as NMB releases (if they played at them - 2014, 2015, 2017, etc). Albums like ? and One were originally Neal Morse solo records, but have since been played live by NMB and seen full live releases of them, so you can listen to it both ways, but they're NM solo for sure.
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I've got the high rank for Spock's Beard at #4, so I guess I better explain myself!
Kansas was my introduction to prog in general. My favorite of the classic British prog bands is Genesis. Probably no surprise, then, that Spock's Beard would end up as my favorite of the 90s-era prog bands. There's a ton of those two influences all over Spock's Beard's fantastic and lengthy career.
A common theme I see in some of the other comments is that people enjoy the Neal era, but aren't as fond of the later stuff with Nick and Ted. My three favorite Spock's Beard albums are V, X, and Brief Nocturnes and Dreamless Sleep. One from each of the three lead vocalists, and I picked those three genuinely due to the strength of the material -- not just for the sake of picking one from each era. I'm even a pretty big fan of SB9, which is all over the place stylistically, but I find it to be one of the most enjoyable SB albums to listen to. With that said, yes, the Neal era is the most consistent. I confess to not really being a huge fan of the last two albums, or of the band's spiritual successor (PSA).
Rather than list off some favorites that any Spock's Beard fan loves, here are a few Spock's Beard songs I think are criminally underrated: Flow, Ghosts of Autumn, As Far as the Mind Can See, The Quiet House, I Know Your Secret
Spock's Beard is a band that was part of the soundtrack of my teenage and young adult years, and then continued making good music for a while beyond that. I connect with Spock's Beard on both a musical and emotional level. They're easily one of my personal favorites, and if they've about wrapped things up, that's a solid discography and a solid career.
And yet ... Neal Morse / NMB didn't make my list at all. I followed along with Neal for a few albums after he left SB, but by ? it all felt too same-y to me and I sort of found myself checking out. I jumped back in for TSOAD and TGA, because I was going on CTTE in 2017/2019 and both albums were being performed. They are fantastic pieces of work, to be sure, and I'm glad I got to see them live.
Also, the first Neal Morse solo album (the one with the blue cover) is underrated, and not just for the closing epic. Some great pop songs on that album.
Final note: interesting that the Spock's Beard high ranker (me) did not rank Neal Morse, and the Neal Morse high ranker (bosk) did not rank Spock's Beard.
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Nothing in the last few for me, though I do like Ayreon. Stadler should be happy to finally be on the board. :)
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A common theme I see in some of the other comments is that people enjoy the Neal era, but aren't as fond of the later stuff with Nick and Ted. My three favorite Spock's Beard albums are V, X, and Brief Nocturnes and Dreamless Sleep. One from each of the three lead vocalists, and I picked those three genuinely due to the strength of the material -- not just for the sake of picking one from each era. I'm even a pretty big fan of SB9, which is all over the place stylistically, but I find it to be one of the most enjoyable SB albums to listen to. With that said, yes, the Neal era is the most consistent. I confess to not really being a huge fan of the last two albums, or of the band's spiritual successor (PSA).
Rather than list off some favorites that any Spock's Beard fan loves, here are a few Spock's Beard songs I think are criminally underrated: Flow, Ghosts of Autumn, As Far as the Mind Can See, The Quiet House, I Know Your Secret.
I meant to mention, I circled back to the self-titled SB album only about 2-3 years ago, but it is fantastic, even if it maybe has a little fat that could have been trimmed. As Far As The Mind Can See is up there with their strongest epics. Love that one. Nick sounds amazing on this album too (both vocally and drum wise). The whole thing sounds really good. Some really great Al solos too.
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Nice write-up Zo! And that is an interesting endnote about you and bosk!
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My three favorite Spock's Beard albums are V, X, and Brief Nocturnes and Dreamless Sleep. One from each of the three lead vocalists, and I picked those three genuinely due to the strength of the material -- not just for the sake of picking one from each era
Funny enough, both X and BNADS have songs that credit Neal, and have been the only two albums since his departure to include him in the writing credits (not counting the compilation where he literally wrote an epic for the band past & present).
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While the Megadeth update was a few posts back I just saw the perfect post that describes what I hear when listening to Megadeth: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy8ZMF2PQjE/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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No one asked for it, but I guess I’ll do a favorite track from each SB album:
- The Light: The Light
- Beware or Darkness: Waste Away (or The Doorway)
- Kindness of Strangers: Flow (or June)
- Day for Night: The Healing Colors of Sound (the whole thing)
- V: At The End Of The Day (or The Great Nothing)
- Snow: Solitary Soul (or Looking for Answers)
- Feel Euphoria: The Bottom Line (or A Guy Named Sid)
- Octane: She Is Everything (or Watching the Tide)
- Spock’s Beard: As Far As The Eye Can See
- X - The Edge of The In Between
- Brief Nocturnes: Waiting For Me
- The Oblivion Particle: Bennet Built a Time Machine
- Noise Floor - Beginnings (or Bulletproof)
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I find these sort of lists quite helpful, even if I don't get to them until months later.
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No one asked for it, but I guess I’ll do a favorite track from each SB album:
- The Light: The Light
- Beware or Darkness: Waste Away (or The Doorway)
- Kindness of Strangers: Flow (or June)
- Day for Night: The Healing Colors of Sound (the whole thing)
- V: At The End Of The Day (or The Great Nothing)
- Snow: Solitary Soul (or Looking for Answers)
- Feel Euphoria: The Bottom Line (or A Guy Named Sid)
- Octane: She Is Everything (or Watching the Tide)
- Spock’s Beard: As Far As The Eye Can See
- X - The Edge of The In Between
- Brief Nocturnes: Waiting For Me
- The Oblivion Particle: Bennet Built a Time Machine
- Noise Floor - Beginnings (or Bulletproof)
Oh yes, Waste Away is SO good.
As for the Kindness of Strangers - I always had a special fondness for The Good Don’t Last and Harm’s Way (some of the instrumental stuff on the latter is fantastic, in a truly “uplifting” way)
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Nick sounds amazing on this album too (both vocally and drum wise). The whole thing sounds really good. Some really great Al solos too.
Might be my favorite SB album sonically, actually. Everything sounds fresh and crisp and bright -- fantastic production overall.
Funny enough, both X and BNADS have songs that credit Neal, and have been the only two albums since his departure to include him in the writing credits (not counting the compilation where he literally wrote an epic for the band past & present).
Oddly, though, those aren't the reasons I like those two albums. Waiting For Me is maybe my 3rd favorite track on BNADS, and The Emperor's Clothes is my least favorite on X.
As for the Kindness of Strangers - I always had a special fondness for The Good Don’t Last and Harm’s Way (some of the instrumental stuff on the latter is fantastic, in a truly “uplifting” way)
TKOS is my 4th favorite SB album behind the others mentioned. Not a bad song on the album. Just a great mix of positive, enjoyable music combined with some of that early-SB quirkiness. The "Venus" section in the middle of Harm's Way is so good.
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Love SB's work, even without Neal Morse, they managed doing at least very good or solid albums. Neal Morse kind of became more formulaic in his album and compositions, but still making music in high level. Neal's SB had an impressive the run from Kindness to Snow (I'm in the "they found their sound on Kindness" camp). Post that, I think X and Brief Nocturnes are truly amazing. Not including NMB, my faves Neal's albums are still One, ? and Testimony 2. They didn't make my list, although had been strongly considered.
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No one asked for it, but I guess I’ll do a favorite track from each SB album:
- The Light: The Light
- Beware or Darkness: Waste Away (or The Doorway)
- Kindness of Strangers: Flow (or June)
- Day for Night: The Healing Colors of Sound (the whole thing)
- V: At The End Of The Day (or The Great Nothing)
- Snow: Solitary Soul (or Looking for Answers)
- Feel Euphoria: The Bottom Line (or A Guy Named Sid)
- Octane: She Is Everything (or Watching the Tide)
- Spock’s Beard: As Far As The Eye Can See
- X - The Edge of The In Between
- Brief Nocturnes: Waiting For Me
- The Oblivion Particle: Bennet Built a Time Machine
- Noise Floor - Beginnings (or Bulletproof)
Oh yes, Waste Away is SO good.
As for the Kindness of Strangers - I always had a special fondness for The Good Don’t Last and Harm’s Way (some of the instrumental stuff on the latter is fantastic, in a truly “uplifting” way)
I love both. The “The Radiant Is” section of The Good Don’t Last is amazing. And then Harm’s Way, I love the “the Venus slowly rises in the night” section.
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26. Pain Of Salvation
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Number of top 10 finishes: 4
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Checking the RYM profile I didn't realize PoS was making albums as recent as 2020. I never could get into PoS but the last time I really gave them a chance was 15 years ago.
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BE holds a special place in my heart, Remedy Lane is another favorite album. In the Passing Light of Day was a return to form for me even though I love all albums.
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Yeah another band I never got into, wouldn't say they're cringy, but just not my thing really.
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I gave PoS a shot back in the day when they were the next big thing in prog metal. I really liked their acoustic live album (12:5 I think?), enough that I was really excited when Be came out. Well, Be killed any enthusiasm for the band. I just hated everything about it, and Daniel’s voice has come to really grate on me particularly. I get really annoyed when he pops up with Transatlantic and The Flower Kings. All that to say, PoS were not on my list.
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26. Pain Of Salvation
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Highest Finish: 1 (elefantStone)
Number of top 10 finishes: 4
Number of Lists appeared on: 9 (SwedishGoose, devieira73, jammindude, PMSummer, SumoneLikeHim, elefantStone, Evermind, Zoom E, nick_Z)
Checking the RYM profile I didn't realize PoS was making albums as recent as 2020. I never could get into PoS but the last time I really gave them a chance was 15 years ago.
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They did not rank for me, but I have given them some attention before. Heck, I own eight of their albums and have tried really getting into them, but they just have truly clicked for me. My first album of theirs I got was Be and thought it was okay with its rather unique concept and structure. I enjoy most of the Road Salt albums as well. Beyond that, I don't remember much of their music. I like Daniel's contributions to live Transatlantic though, which is where I first saw/heard him.
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I enjoy me some Remedy Lane from time to time, but they weren't a contender for my Top 50.
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Pain of Salvation might be in my top 50, purely on the strength of Remedy Lane -- and to a lesser extent TPE1. I haven't been particularly drawn in to too much else they've done, although In the Passing Light of Day and Panther have some good moments. Perhaps a bit of a return to form. But at the other end, I think Scarsick is just awful. So it's a mix for me with these guys.
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Never listened to POS.
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can't think of a more cringey prog band personally, but to each their own
Just one troll post after another. No need to be a dick. Just move along.
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I gave PoS a shot back in the day when they were the next big thing in prog metal. I really liked their acoustic live album (12:5 I think?), enough that I was really excited when Be came out. Well, Be killed any enthusiasm for the band. I just hated everything about it, and Daniel’s voice has come to really grate on me particularly. I get really annoyed when he pops up with Transatlantic and The Flower Kings. All that to say, PoS were not on my list.
I don't mind Gildenlow in small doses, which is why I was fine with his contributions with the Flower Kings and on the 4th TA album, but I do not want to hear him a lot. I am not convinced he is much of a songwriter either, which is why PoS was a huge swing and a miss for me.
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I had Pain of Salvation at 22.
They were much higher at one point, but their post-BE output has just been way too spotty, and I no longer consider them an “automatic release day buy”. But their first 5 albums are one of the greatest “first 5” in all of progressive rock.
So if you’re judging them based on a latter day album, give them another try. Personally I found Remedy Lane *a bit* harder to get into at first, but now it’s my favorite. The Perfect Element was the first album I heard from them and it clicked instantly, although it’s now my #2.
Entropia and One Hour by the Concrete Lake are also excellent.
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I absolutely love(d) Remedy Lane and The Perfect Element. But I don’t care for anything else. Kinda weird. I’m the same way with Haken. I absolutely love The Mountain and I really really like Affinity. I could never get into anything else. The new one I listened to all of the way through maybe once. No desire to go back to it.
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can't think of a more cringey prog band personally, but to each their own
Just one troll post after another. No need to be a duck. Just move along.
I remember when I was about 13 I would get on some of the early dial up BBS’ and make these kinds of comments. He will grow up eventually.
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Yeah it's getting quite annoying, commenting negatively on other people's music tastes.
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can't think of a more cringey prog band personally, but to each their own
Just one troll post after another. No need to be a duck. Just move along.
I remember when I was about 13 I would get on some of the early dial up BBS’ and make these kinds of comments. He will grow up eventually.
I just realized that I called him a duck! :facepalm:
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Yeah it's getting quite annoying, commenting negatively on other people's music tastes.
Yea, they didn't get the message. We don't do.that round here (unless in jest obvs).
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Yeah it's getting quite annoying, commenting negatively on other people's music tastes.
Yea, they didn't get the message. We don't do.that round here (unless in jest obvs).
Welcome to the forum!
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can't think of a more cringey prog band personally, but to each their own
Just one troll post after another. No need to be a duck. Just move along.
I remember when I was about 13 I would get on some of the early dial up BBS’ and make these kinds of comments. He will grow up eventually.
I just realized that I called him a duck! :facepalm:
Well, it does fit the bill. :neverusethis:
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can't think of a more cringey prog band personally, but to each their own
Just one troll post after another. No need to be a duck. Just move along.
I remember when I was about 13 I would get on some of the early dial up BBS’ and make these kinds of comments. He will grow up eventually.
I just realized that I called him a duck! :facepalm:
Well, it does fit the bill. :neverusethis:
:biggrin:
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I listened the hell out of Remedy Lane and TPE pt. 1; In the Passing Light of Day and Panther are both excellent, and there are some outstanding tracks on Entropia, Concrete Lake, BE and Road Salts. I probably put the band a little too high when I made my list, but still, I like them a lot.
Weirdly, one time I saw them live for ITPLOD tour I wasn't impressed at all—I think Daniel was sick or something. He didn't look like he wanted to even be there.
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I'm not hugely into Pain of Salvation, but not through want of trying. I really quite enjoy a lot of their albums, and actually spent a lot of 2017 exploring their catalogue. My faves are the expected ones (Remedy Lane, The Perfect Element, BE) but my #1 is In the Passing Light of Day. It's easily my fave and the one that has had the biggest impact on me. I kinda overplayed it as I haven't had the urge to play it for a good while. I'd say they'd land somewhere in my top 100 bands (maybe), and I definitely get why they're here, as there are lots of big fans.
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Miles Davis
Symphony X
Agalloch
King Crimson
Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Evergrey
UFO
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Nightwish
Katatonia
Helloween
Between the Buried and Me
Anathema
Radiohead
Big Big Train
Peter Gabriel
Riverside
KISS
Ayreon
Spock's Beard
Neal Morse
Pain of Salvation
25. Avenged Sevenfold (Favourite Album: City of Evil. Favourite Song: Cosmic)
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Pain of Salvation is my #16
That's one of my top 25 bands I thought would make the DTF top 25 too, but I guess close enough :)
If you had asked me around the time Remedy Lane was released, PoS would have likely threatened to make my top 10. Huge fan at the time. As I mentioned a few days ago, One Hour/TPE I/Remedy Lane are easily my top three records from the band, with Remedy Lane having a slight edge over the rest. Entropia is a cool debut, still a little rough around the edges (understandably)
Expectations were sky-high leading up to the release of Be. Unfortunately, despite having some flashes of pure brilliance, that album turned out to be a disappointment for me. It felt it was a case of Daniel getting carried away a bit. I do occasionally revisit and enjoy it for what it is - more of a theatrical piece, I guess. Believe it or not, I liked Scarsick more. There are moments that didn't age super-well, but it's an album I listened to a ton when it came out.
Then, well, they lost me a bit. Clearly the band (Daniel) changed their style quite drastically, but that wasn't the problem per se. It's just that I don't think they did the vintage 70s stuff particularly well. There's some interesting material on the Road Salt albums, for sure, but I didn't find the same magic (prog or not prog). Maybe I grew a little tired of the whole Gildenlow persona too, I don't know.
The last couple of albums I appreciated more - I know (especially In the Passing...) they have been hyped as a "return to prog", but it's not even that. I just happen to enjoy the songs more. Once again, some things don't work great, and I think they are pretty far from their best (nostalgia factor aside). But they make me think there's still gas in the tank.
Anyway, overall plenty of great music to enjoy from this band.
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Yeah it's getting quite annoying, commenting negatively on other people's music tastes.
Especially when this is based on lists from a lot of known posters with a wide variety of music tastes. That post was not posted in good faith, in my opinion, in correlation to what this thread is about.
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Yeah it's getting quite annoying, commenting negatively on other people's music tastes.
Especially when this is based on lists from a lot of known posters with a wide variety of music tastes. That post was not posted in good faith, in my opinion, in correlation to what this thread is about.
It's a tough call. This is not an appreciation thread or one dedicated to a specific band or album, so any and all opinions about the featured artists should be welcome, but of course reading the room is always a good idea. I didn't say a word about Kiss when they were featured, as I figured it was best to let those who like them have their go at chatting about them, but that's me. I suspect there will be plenty of artists still to come in this that I will be able to say a lot about. :) :)
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i'm sorry for hating on Pain of Salvation, i'll do better in the future my guys.
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but let's be real that band is not to be taken seriously. a panther in a dogs world????? lmaooo
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for future reference feel free to tear apart my music taste, i have absolutely no problem with people strongly disagreeing with me. my ego can handle it :)
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A few more not rated but still very good bands/artists. Comments below.
NR Miles Davis (Would probably make my top 100 even though I've only heard less than half of his stuff. Favorite albums are probably In a Silent Way and Get Up With It)
NR King Crimson (Another that would make my top 100, maybe even top 50. Favorite albums, Red and Discipline)
NR Avenged Sevenfold (A top 50 band most likely. Favorite albums, City of Evil and The Stage)
NR Scorpions (A top 100 band. One of my dad's favorite bands. Favorite albums, Taken By Force and Love At First Sting)
NR Frank Zappa (Kind of the same situation as Miles Davis, except Frank has some stuff that I absolutely don't like, so probably wouldn't be a top 100 artist. Favorite albums, Joe's Garage and Hot Rats)
NR Evergrey (As I mentioned earlier they have some decent albums and their latest may actually be my favorite, but I still don't like Tom Englund's vocals)
NR UFO (A band that I haven't listened to enough. I keep intending on doing a deep dive. I do really like the album Walk On Water)
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor (A band that had 3 masterpieces to start and on the strength of those would have made my top 50, but everything they've done since has been fairly bland)
NR Nightwish (A band that I strongly considered for my initial list and might be in my top 50. Favorite albums, Dark Passion Play and Once
NR Katatonia (A top 100 band easily. Favorite albums, Brave Murder Day and The Fall of Hearts)
NR Helloween (Another top 100 band even though they have about 7 terrible albums. Favorite albums, Keeper of the Seven Keys (both parts) and Gambling With the Devil)
NR Radiohead (Wouldn't sniff my top 100, but I do like some of their stuff. I also find a lot of their stuff extremely boring. Favorite albums, OK Computer and In Rainbows)
NR Big Big Train (A band that keeps rising in my ranks, but is probably still outside of the top 50. Favorite Albums, The Underfall Yard and both parts of English Electric)
NR Peter Gabriel (Kind of forgot about him, but would still be outside my top 50. Great artist though. Favorite albums, the third self-titled (aka Melt) and So)
NR Megadeth (My second favorite of the big 4. Don't like all of their albums, but enough to probably land in my top 100. Favorite albums, Rust In Peace and Dystopia)
NR Kiss (I guess I shouldn't be surprised they are in the collective top 50, but man....they'd probably sit in my bottom 50. Do.Not.Like. I mean, I grew up gaining a love of rock music from Rush, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, and Def Leppard. Kiss was just boring and toothless in comparison.
NR Spock's Beard (Easily a top 100 band for me, maybe even top 50. Got into them with Octane, which I still really like. Favorite albums, The Light and Snow)
NR Neal Morse (I lump Neal Morse Band with solo stuff, but I only listen to NMB. I'm with Jammindude on the solo stuff for the same reasons. Favorite albums, The Similitude of a Dream and The Great Adventure)
NR Pain of Salvation (Most likely a top 50 band, but they are wildly inconsistent. Everything from Scarsick thru In the Passing Light of Day are not good, but the rest of the albums are anywhere from good to amazing. Favorite albums, BE and Remedy Lane)
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33 Riverside (First heard this band on Progulus back around when Out of Myself was released. Were one of those formative gateway modern Prog bands for me. They've kind of fallen down my rankings in recent years. Favorite albums, Anno Domini High Definition and Out of Myself)
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8 Between the Buried and Me (Just an amazing band. I was introduced when Alaska was released, fell in love when Colors was released, became an all time great with The Great Misdirect. Favorite albums, The Great Misdirect and The Parallax: Hypersleep Dialogues)
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6 Anathema (From depressive doom, to amazing depressive rock, to uplifting beautiful atmospheric rock. Amazing band with a ton of feel. Favorite albums, Weather Systems and Alternative 4)
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#8 for me. I've been a fan for years, and their albums 'Remedy Lane' and 'The Perfect Element' are absolute masterpieces in my book. The way they blend progressive metal with deep, emotional lyrics just hits me right in the feels. The later albums can be a bit hit or miss for me.
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but let's be real that band is not to be taken seriously. a panther in a dogs world????? lmaooo
If you’ve never heard The Perfect Element or Remedy Lane, then your opinion is insignificant inconsequential anyway.
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but let's be real that band is not to be taken seriously. a panther in a dogs world????? lmaooo
If you’ve never heard The Perfect Element or Remedy Lane, then your opinion is insignificant anyway.
i've tried both many, many times. trust me this is not due to me not knowing their music
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Your problem lies in how you're hating on them...It's a matter of 'they suck' vs 'I don't like them'...one of these options doesn't put down another's opinion. Remember, almost every band is everything to someone, just respect that.
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I already have my own kids, I don’t want to come in here and deal with people acting like kids too.
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can't think of a more cringey prog band personally, but to each their own
And you wonder why I have a crack at you in every thread you post in?
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POS probably makes my top 30. But thinking about and since I did my list in 5 minutes, they would probably easily take a spot of many of the bands on my list.
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As far as I know I've heard one Pain of Salvation song in my life. Someone mentioned their song King of Loss years ago in a thread about great guitar solos so I checked it out (it was indeed great, but even greater was the section leading into the solo which was a literal goosebumps moment). They're another band I keep meaning to check out.
Going back a bit, neither Neal Morse nor Spocks Beard made my list, though I do like a lot of what Neal Morse has done. Sola Scriptura, Testimony 2 (his best in my opinion) and Momentum are great albums. Given how much material he puts out he's amazingly consistent.
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PoS (my #24) has great consistency in their albums. Sure they evolved into something very different from the first 5 albums, but the quality was always high (including Scarsick and Road Salts IMO). But I must say that their beginnings are still my favorite era and Entropia, Perfect Element Pt. 1 and Remedy Lane are all incredible and perfect albums.
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PoS (my #24) has great consistency in their albums. Sure they evolved into something very different from the first 5 albums, but the quality was always high (including Scarsick and Road Salts IMO). But I must say that their beginnings are still my favorite era and Entropia, Perfect Element Pt. 1 and Remedy Lane are all incredible and perfect albums.
Scarsick cracked my top 50. Just something about the whole album clicked with me. So random, so unique, so much variety where nothing was off limits.
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I was really into their first few albums for awhile. Somewhere between Be and Scarsick they lost the spark for me, and I've never really gotten back to them since then. I listened to Panther when it came out, hoping it would rekindle something, and it was decent enough, but I wasn't moved to binge on them again. I probably just need to rerun through the early albums again and remind myself why I did quite like them for awhile.
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PoS (my #24) has great consistency in their albums. Sure they evolved into something very different from the first 5 albums, but the quality was always high (including Scarsick and Road Salts IMO). But I must say that their beginnings are still my favorite era and Entropia, Perfect Element Pt. 1 and Remedy Lane are all incredible and perfect albums.
Scarsick cracked my top 50. Just something about the whole album clicked with me. So random, so unique, so much variety where nothing was off limits.
I also think it's a really cool album. People gave the "alternative rock" tag to it, but it has much more depth and diversity than that. But it isn't a prog metal album.
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PoS (my #24) has great consistency in their albums. Sure they evolved into something very different from the first 5 albums, but the quality was always high (including Scarsick and Road Salts IMO). But I must say that their beginnings are still my favorite era and Entropia, Perfect Element Pt. 1 and Remedy Lane are all incredible and perfect albums.
Scarsick cracked my top 50. Just something about the whole album clicked with me. So random, so unique, so much variety where nothing was off limits.
Agreed. It's a pretty great album. Very much "PoS", but also a (mostly) successful attempt at moving in different directions.
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25. Between the Buried and Me
20. Avenged Sevenfold
17. Spocks Beard
14. Ayreon
9. The Dear Hunter
8. Big Big Train
6. Pain of Salvation
4. Neal Morse
Catching up, two big days for my list!
Neal Morse might be my favorite individual musician of all time. Yes, his album are not the most varied in style and the lyrics range from slightly to very preachy but I honestly don't mind at all. What he does he does really well and even as a firm atheist I just enjoy the authenticity of Neals music. He's singing about something that he truly believes in and really cares about, to me that's touching. And nobody does the big climactic prog climax better than Neal. I did include NMB in this ranking even though I separated SW and PT, it's just what made sense to me.
Spocks Beard earns it's place mainly on the merits of the Neal era. V and Snow in particular are big favorites of mine.
Absolutely love Pain of Salvation. I can honestly understand someone would deem the "cringe" but to me there is just a lot of raw emotion in their music. I agree that the first five albums are the strongest, a really impressive run to be sure. BE is probably my favorite.
That's a decent chunk of my top 10 accounted for. I'm starting to give up regarding my #2 but I think the rest will make it. Looking forward to seeing the real top 25 unroll!
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PoS (my #24) has great consistency in their albums. Sure they evolved into something very different from the first 5 albums, but the quality was always high (including Scarsick and Road Salts IMO). But I must say that their beginnings are still my favorite era and Entropia, Perfect Element Pt. 1 and Remedy Lane are all incredible and perfect albums.
Scarsick cracked my top 50. Just something about the whole album clicked with me. So random, so unique, so much variety where nothing was off limits.
I also think it's a really cool album. People gave the "alternative rock" tag to it, but it has much more depth and diversity than that. But it isn't a prog metal album.
PoS (my #24) has great consistency in their albums. Sure they evolved into something very different from the first 5 albums, but the quality was always high (including Scarsick and Road Salts IMO). But I must say that their beginnings are still my favorite era and Entropia, Perfect Element Pt. 1 and Remedy Lane are all incredible and perfect albums.
Scarsick cracked my top 50. Just something about the whole album clicked with me. So random, so unique, so much variety where nothing was off limits.
Agreed. It's a pretty great album. Very much "PoS", but also a (mostly) successful attempt at moving in different directions.
Nice lads. Probably discovering the band around after Scarsick came out helps. Knowing the band early with the classics and hearing Scarsick in real time I could understand why fans would be disappointed with it.
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And we enter the top 25.....
25. Devin Townsend
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 156,386
Highest Finish: 1 (Metropolaris, Buddyhunter1)
Number of top 10 finishes: 5
Number of Lists appeared on: 6 (Metropolaris, twosuitsluke, King Puppies and the Acid Guppies, Buddyhunter1, Pappy, Fonize)
I really like some of Devin's output, Terria, Ghost, and Addicted! are great records. With that said most of his stuff simply doesn't resonate with me.
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Huh, I didn't have Devin on my list but I'd have assumed he'd be way higher on the overall ranking. Great artist tho, even if I don't love everything he's done.
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Nothing but my utmost respect for Devin. He didn't make my list but I enjoy some of his stuff. Saw him live for Transcendence tour and got the CD signed after the show. Good start for the Top 25.
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Devin would have ranked 7th on my list. Even with it being close to a decade now since he wowed me with a studio album, he's still an all-time favorite for me, which still throws me a bit since I am more of a rock guy than a metal one.
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Glad to see him in the top 25. There’s nothing more I can say about Dev that I didn’t say in my discography thread. He’s my #1.
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Nothing but my utmost respect for Devin. He didn't make my list but I enjoy some of his stuff. Saw him live for Transcendence tour and got the CD signed after the show. Good start for the Top 25.
Agreed. I've got 4-5 of his albums, thanks to following along in the discography discussion for him. Some of his stuff is way out there, but some is really good. The wall-of-sound style does get tiresome, and I can only take his music in short bursts.
My fave story with Heavy Devy was on night one of ProgNation at sea (fuck it's coming up on 10 years since that happened!). Well, his show is on the main deck, so the sound check is open for everyone to witness. At one point he says "This is going to be the most prog fucking soundcheck ever .... FLUTES, motherfuckers!!!". :rollin :rollin Also, his rendition of Burning My Soul during the closing PSMS and Friends set was fucking glorious.
Impressive he only had 6 people vote for him (curious to know if these voters lumped in DTP, or regarded both in their rating?), and 5 were Top 10.
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If I remember right (don't have the list next to me) almost no one voted for DTP. I'll confirm later.
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I'll post my thoughts later but my vote for Devin Townsend personally, encompasses everything he's recorded except for Strapping Young Lad. I'm just voting for him as an artist.
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I lumped Devin solo, DTB, and DTP together (also Punky Brüster and Ocean Machine if you wanna get nit-picky), and counted SYL and COC as separate artists.
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Another artist (like Zappa) that I've tried a couple of times to get into, from different angles/albums, but alas to no avail.
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Another artist (like Zappa) that I've tried a couple of times to get into, from different angles/albums, but alas to no avail.
This is me. On paper, I should LOVE Devin, but other than the Vai album and a couple of Strapping Young Lad releases (which I haven't even listened to in yeas), nothing 'clicks' or resonates.
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Devy barely missed my list. would have deff been in the top 30. love him!!
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Have heard some things from Devin that I liked, but overall not really into his style.
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Highest Finish: 1 (Metropolaris, Buddyhunter1)
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Impressive he only had 6 people vote for him (curious to know if these voters lumped in DTP, or regarded both in their rating?), and 5 were Top 10.
That checks out to me, he feels like an artist who's either not your thing or he really wins you over. He definitely deserves more than six votes though!
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The remaining three bands in my top 5 should be locked in - they're all DTF-core. Everything else apart from maybe one or two artists lower on my list has no chance.
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And we enter the top 25.....
25. Devin Townsend
Rate Your Music Profile! (https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/devin-townsend)
Spotify Profile (https://open.spotify.com/artist/6uejjWIOshliv2Ho0OJAQN?si=I40oCJhtROudIAVutQGqMA)
Monthly Spotify Streams: 156,386
Highest Finish: 1 (Metropolaris, Buddyhunter1)
Number of top 10 finishes: 5
Number of Lists appeared on: 6 (Metropolaris, twosuitsluke, King Puppies and the Acid Guppies, Buddyhunter1, Pappy, Fonize)
I really like some of Devin's output, Terria, Ghost, and Addicted! are great records. With that said most of his stuff simply doesn't resonate with me.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
29 King Crimson
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01 Big Big Train
I tried getting into Devin once. I bought three albums from my local FYE a long time ago and his music didn't click with me at all so I've never bothered to go back and try again. I figured he might pop up here somewhere considering how popular he is on this forum.
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So far I’ve only had 4 from my list make it:
19. King Crimson
8. Peter Gabriel
7. Spock’s Beard
2. Big Big Train
I’m expecting to see 4 more, maybe a 5th or 6th, but those are bands I more would have expected to have shown up by now.
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Devin Townsend
I have tried with Devin but nothing has clicked so far.
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Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend
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3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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I had Devin at 23, but I did expect him to land a little higher than 25, maybe late teens.
My journey with Devin started in '05 when I heard Love? on a Metal Hammer cover CD. I bought Alien not longer after, and enjoyed it, but at this point I didn't know anything else about Devin's other output. I sampled a few more SYL albums over the following years but nothing stuck.
Fast forward to 2012 and I'm working abroad in Australia, whilst travelling. I was working pruning mandarin trees (fucking hard job) when I met a Canadian who had a shared interest in heavy music. I filled my external hard drive up with a good deal of music from him, but one of his main loves was Devy. Even so I think I only took a few solo albums from him (weirdly I ended up with like the first 4 tracks from Terria, but not the rest of the album). My appreciation started to grow, but it wasn't until I joined DTF that my love really blossomed. Around 2015 I read up on the Devin Discography Thread that Ultimetalhead wrote, and it really sparked an interest. I started repeatedly playing stuff like Ocean Machine, Terria, Addicted, Deconstruction and Epicloud. Those were the ones that hooked me.
I also started to watch loads of interviews on YouTube, and came to realise that Devin is also a really down to earth guy, who is so anti rock star, all about the music and just seems so genuine. I really like artists who take this approach and can laugh at the ridiculous macho side to metal. I can happily listen to him talk for hours (and have done), and this cemented him as a favourite artist in some ways as much as because of his musical process.
Devy deserves everything and more, he is incredibly talented and I have a lot of respect for him.
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Miles Davis
Symphony X
Agalloch
King Crimson
Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Evergrey
UFO
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Nightwish
Katatonia
Helloween
Between the Buried and Me
Anathema
Radiohead
Big Big Train
Peter Gabriel
Riverside
KISS
Ayreon
Spock's Beard
Neal Morse
Pain of Salvation
25. Avenged Sevenfold (Favourite Album: City of Evil. Favourite Song: Cosmic)
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Finally, in related news, I've been listening to the Spock's Beard compilation (The First 20 Years) today and although most of it was I expected, there were a few songs that I really liked. The two I liked most were The Light and Jaws of Heaven. Jaws of Heaven was particularly epic and I'd be up for digging into more of their catalogue that is similar to this. Any further recs guys?
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Finally, in related news, I've been listening to the Spock's Beard compilation (The First 20 Years) today and although most of it was I expected, there were a few songs that I really liked. The two I liked most were The Light and Jaws of Heaven. Jaws of Heaven was particularly epic and I'd be up for digging into more of their catalogue that is similar to this. Any further recs guys?
Check out the song From the Darkness. It's from the same album as Jaws of Heaven (which I agree is amazing) and is almost as great.
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Finally, in related news, I've been listening to the Spock's Beard compilation (The First 20 Years) today and although most of it was I expected, there were a few songs that I really liked. The two I liked most were The Light and Jaws of Heaven. Jaws of Heaven was particularly epic and I'd be up for digging into more of their catalogue that is similar to this. Any further recs guys?
That’s interesting because those are two pretty different songs, and you’ve heard a lot of the points in between already on that compilation. I’d say check out the X album for sure if you like Jaws of Heaven as as that is pretty representative of the sound on that one. I’d say try V as well since that is one of the better sounding Morse albums and has two great epics on it (particularly The Great Nothing).
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One of my favourite artists. All his stuff got lumped in together. Staggered he’s not top 10 here, really.
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Just for the sake of keeping current.
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Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeath, Riverside, KISS, Ayreon, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Pain of Salvation, Devin Townsend
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Devin Townsend
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Nightwish
NR Megadeth
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
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Ayreon and Devin could have made my list, but didn't. In the first case, just not that familiar with the whole catalogue, and the latter, just not really down with a lot of it (the early stuff and the SYL stuff).
For all that I love Neal, I'm not really into Spock's Beard; it's different to me, and I don't really care for when NMB covers Spock's. It's not BAD, really, but it doesn't hold up to the Neal solo (and NMB) stuff.
Kiss; there really isn't much to say. Everything I love about music ultimately came from Kiss in one form or another. So many people say "I saw the Beatles on Ed Sullivan and my world turned..."; that was Kiss for me. I loved them then and I love them now.
By the way, I get it; I'm not naive to the public persona, but IMO, Gene is about as far from an asshole as you can get. I heard someone say - might have been TAC - that Gene is a nice guy pretending to be an ass, and Paul is an ass pretending to be a nice guy. I mean, maybe you don't like his honesty, but he IS honest, and he's relatively consistent. He does charity, he's ACES to the fans (see my story in another thread, just today) and while he is well-paid, he gives top dollar value for his shows. I've never really seen a bad Kiss show. In fact, when I took my daughter (it was the Def Leppard tour) they started out not great; during God Of Thunder (where he flies), he got about five feet off the ground and got stuck. He had the roadies let him down and he gave them the business. They ultimately got him up on the lighting truss (for his solo spot) and after he got back down again, he went to the side of the stage and he was clearly pissed at the roadies. He then went to each member ON STAGE and sort of got in their faces; from that point on, it was like a different band. Even my daughter said "Dad, what happened? It's like they turned it up a notch". By the end, she took a picture of the stage blowing up during RnRAN and posted it on Instagram, "The greatest night of my life". I think he really cares about what he does and is proud of it. I find that impressive today where so many people seem like they want to apologize for being "good".
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28 Spock's Beard - If I were to consider only Neal Morse-era SB, they would have ranked in my top 10. But if memory serves, there have now been more non-Morse SB albums than there were albums with him on them. And I've never been able to enjoy them as much. The magic is, literally, gone, at least for me.
27 Neal Morse - Neal Morse would have been in my Top 5.
26 Pain of Salvation - I was never really able to get into PoS, although I certainly tried back in the day. Honestly, in this day and age, I am really surprised to see them rate even this high; I don't see them getting discussed around here very much anymore, although if this ranking was done in the early 2000s, they probably would have ranked second lol
25 Devin Townsend - I have a lot of respect for Devin, but I just don't like enough of his output for him to have made my list.
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Just catching up, but two observations:
Kiss being ranked so high surprises me. Not that their reputation and standing in the music community doesn't make them "deserving" to be ranked so high in a poll. But I'm just surprised that they ranked so high here, given the generally more progressive and metal leanings of this forum. But not a critique--just an observation.
Neal Morse being ranked so low baffles me. I mean, obviously, with me ranking him at #2, I'm inclined to be biased. But given how much Neal discussion we have here, and how much love he gets generally on this forum, I'm shocked that he only rated on 6 lists. I would have figured him to be much higher.
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Just catching up, but two observations:
Kiss being ranked so high surprises me. Not that their reputation and standing in the music community doesn't make them "deserving" to be ranked so high in a poll. But I'm just surprised that they ranked so high here, given the generally more progressive and metal leanings of this forum. But not a critique--just an observation.
Neal Morse being ranked so low baffles me. I mean, obviously, with me ranking him at #2, I'm inclined to be biased. But given how much Neal discussion we have here, and how much love he gets generally on this forum, I'm shocked that he only rated on 6 lists. I would have figured him to be much higher.
If I had known most people would equate Neal Morse with The Neal Morse Band I would have ranked him as it is I guess my ranking of The Neal Morse band is wasted.
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I don't see much difference between "solo" NM and the NMB.
I know there is one, but it isn't much.
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Stadler, in fairness, I don't know enough about Gene to know whether he is truly an asshole. I do know, that my opinion on him was mainly formed by some documentary I saw over 20 years ago. Gene was talking about all the women he'd slept with and was saying to the interviewer that he could walk into a party he (the interviewer) was hosting, and leave with his wife (or anyone's wife for that matter) if he wanted to.
I instantly took a dislike to the guy and how full of himself he was. To seriously think that all women desired him. Gross.
Now, maybe that's just all part of his shtick, but I've never had the desire to find out if he's a nice guy or not, because of that first impression.
That's just one person's opinion though.
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Just catching up, but two observations:
Kiss being ranked so high surprises me. Not that their reputation and standing in the music community doesn't make them "deserving" to be ranked so high in a poll. But I'm just surprised that they ranked so high here, given the generally more progressive and metal leanings of this forum. But not a critique--just an observation.
Neal Morse being ranked so low baffles me. I mean, obviously, with me ranking him at #2, I'm inclined to be biased. But given how much Neal discussion we have here, and how much love he gets generally on this forum, I'm shocked that he only rated on 6 lists. I would have figured him to be much higher.
I actually agree with both of these assessments. I know there are others - WilliamMunny, Lowdz, TAC - who like Kiss, but the feedback to them here is usually underwhelming compared to the more "prog" hard rock acts (Queensryche, Rush), and even the praise is usually accompanied by some jab at the members. For Morse, though, I think the various avenues of output (Neal, NMB, etc.) really hurt him.
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Stadler, in fairness, I don't know enough about Gene to know whether he is truly an asshole. I do know, that my opinion on him was mainly formed by some documentary I saw over 20 years ago. Gene was talking about all the women he'd slept with and was saying to the interviewer that he could walk into a party he (the interviewer) was hosting, and leave with his wife (or anyone's wife for that matter) if he wanted to.
I instantly took a dislike to the guy and how full of himself he was. To seriously think that all women desired him. Gross.
Now, maybe that's just all part of his shtick, but I've never had the desire to find out if he's a nice guy or not, because of that first impression.
That's just one person's opinion though.
It's a fair criticism; he IS high on himself, and he doesn't seem to have much shame, but I think there's more to it than that. At the very least, he didn't grow up an entitled rich kid with a silver spoon in his mouth.
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Stadler, in fairness, I don't know enough about Gene to know whether he is truly an asshole. I do know, that my opinion on him was mainly formed by some documentary I saw over 20 years ago. Gene was talking about all the women he'd slept with and was saying to the interviewer that he could walk into a party he (the interviewer) was hosting, and leave with his wife (or anyone's wife for that matter) if he wanted to.
I instantly took a dislike to the guy and how full of himself he was. To seriously think that all women desired him. Gross.
Now, maybe that's just all part of his shtick, but I've never had the desire to find out if he's a nice guy or not, because of that first impression.
That's just one person's opinion though.
Well, I think that does make him objectively gross. But whether he can be that and also be really cool and personable to fans aren't necessarily incompatible either. And from everything I've seen and heard, my assessment is that both ARE true. He's someone I would probably avoid spending any time with and am generally disgusted by. But if I ever met him face to face, I also am confident I would have some great conversation and would come away from the conversation thinking he was pretty cool and personable. And I also understand and respect a lot of things about him too, whether I subjectively like him or not.
Just catching up, but two observations:
Kiss being ranked so high surprises me. Not that their reputation and standing in the music community doesn't make them "deserving" to be ranked so high in a poll. But I'm just surprised that they ranked so high here, given the generally more progressive and metal leanings of this forum. But not a critique--just an observation.
Neal Morse being ranked so low baffles me. I mean, obviously, with me ranking him at #2, I'm inclined to be biased. But given how much Neal discussion we have here, and how much love he gets generally on this forum, I'm shocked that he only rated on 6 lists. I would have figured him to be much higher.
I actually agree with both of these assessments. I know there are others - WilliamMunny, Lowdz, TAC - who like Kiss, but the feedback to them here is usually underwhelming compared to the more "prog" hard rock acts (Queensryche, Rush), and even the praise is usually accompanied by some jab at the members. For Morse, though, I think the various avenues of output (Neal, NMB, etc.) really hurt him.
Yeah, I guess I'm gleaning that some here voted separately, which is REALLY bizarre. I mean, Neal Morse has always been, and probably will always be, Neal, Mike, Randy, and supporting musicians. And when those supporting musicians are two specific guys, he uses the word "band" on the end of the name...and that somehow makes it a different entity? I mean, at the end of the day, who cares? It's a ranking on an Internet forum that ultimately doesn't change anything about the real world. For those taking the time to provide their input, it would be nice to have have had some consensus before voting so that we could have had some consistency. But not a big deal.
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I'm guessing this is one of the more glaring examples of vote splitting to come. Some people vote Neal Morse, some vote Neal Morse Band, some vote Spock's Beard, potentially factoring in Neal's solo material as part of that as well. Maybe even some did that with Transatlantic or Flying Colors? That could explain why the vote isn't unified and he doesn't place as high as expected given how seemingly popular he is.
As for Devin, he didn't quite make my list, but he's in my top 50. There are numerous superfans of his here, which makes me feel like a much more casual one, but I do like the bulk of his output quite a lot, though there is certainly a range of quality.
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If I remember right if I added the NM and NMB votes he would've moved up the list but not drastically so.
With regards to combining the two I did think about it strictly for NM but I didn't want to open that can of worms. This is a bad example but would LTE and DT be the same rank? 3/4 of LTE are in DT and DT has performed LTE songs. Dave Matthews released a solo album and played some songs with DMB, should that be included in a DMB ranking? Ultimately I figured I'd leave it to submitter to decide how they want to allocate a discography and set their rank but I wasn't going to hop in and make judgement calls on combining artists together.
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Yeah, I can't wait to see the rest of the list. For a previous example with Ayreon, it'll be interesting to see if there are any Star One votes, or even Guilt Machine, The Gentle Storm, Ambeon, or heck, even Supersonic Revolution (highly unlikely, but you never know), even Stream of Passion, Bodine, etc. for looser ones, which could potentially have cost a few spots, not that it's a huge deal. I contemplated voting Star One myself and decided against it.
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For me, it would just be about hedging my bets to get my artist on the list. The only one I had to think about was Devin Townsend, and it seemed logical that 'Devin Townsend' would get more votes than any of his self named bands.
If I honestly thought Devin Townsend Project would be what people would be voting, then that's what I would've voted as I wouldn't want to essentially waste my vote.
In Reapers shoes I would've done the same. I wouldn't have made any executive decision as to whether certain artists/bands should be combined, I would've just sat back and let people vote as they will.
I don't know Neal Morse well enough to know whether Neal Morse is more popular than Neal Morse Band, but I think even if they were on equal footing I'd have voted Neal Morse as it feels more all encompassing.
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Devin Townsend wasn´t on my list as I´m not familiar with all of his output but he has a lot of records and songs I really like and he is one of the most humble and funny people in the business.
I tried to get into Pain of Salvation but none of their records really do anything for me.
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Stadler, in fairness, I don't know enough about Gene to know whether he is truly an asshole. I do know, that my opinion on him was mainly formed by some documentary I saw over 20 years ago. Gene was talking about all the women he'd slept with and was saying to the interviewer that he could walk into a party he (the interviewer) was hosting, and leave with his wife (or anyone's wife for that matter) if he wanted to.
I instantly took a dislike to the guy and how full of himself he was. To seriously think that all women desired him. Gross.
Now, maybe that's just all part of his shtick, but I've never had the desire to find out if he's a nice guy or not, because of that first impression.
That's just one person's opinion though.
Wow that's really gross. I imagine there are bands I like whose members have said (and done) things that I don't know about. Or in some cases I do know about. If I liked Kiss, and he was still going around saying stuff like that, I might find it harder to be a fan. But I think if I liked them and stuff like that was in the distant past, I could chalk it up to being part of his shtick back then.
Neal Morse - I guess I also expected him to be ranked a little higher. I'm not a fan myself - I don't have a strong dislike or anything, but I don't care for his voice that much and I just don't find myself wanting to listen to his stuff.
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Stadler, in fairness, I don't know enough about Gene to know whether he is truly an asshole. I do know, that my opinion on him was mainly formed by some documentary I saw over 20 years ago. Gene was talking about all the women he'd slept with and was saying to the interviewer that he could walk into a party he (the interviewer) was hosting, and leave with his wife (or anyone's wife for that matter) if he wanted to.
I instantly took a dislike to the guy and how full of himself he was. To seriously think that all women desired him. Gross.
Now, maybe that's just all part of his shtick, but I've never had the desire to find out if he's a nice guy or not, because of that first impression.
That's just one person's opinion though.
Wow that's really gross. I imagine there are bands I like whose members have said (and done) things that I don't know about. Or in some cases I do know about. If I liked Kiss, and he was still going around saying stuff like that, I might find it harder to be a fan. But I think if I liked them and stuff like that was in the distant past, I could chalk it up to being part of his shtick back then.
Neal Morse - I guess I also expected him to be ranked a little higher. I'm not a fan myself - I don't have a strong dislike or anything, but I don't care for his voice that much and I just don't find myself wanting to listen to his stuff.
Yea, I'm not here to pile on KISS or Gene, and I know that some of the band members of bands on my list will have definitely engaged in questionable acts with groupies, especially the older bands. It's not OK, and I'm not justifying it for bands I like, it's just that Gene has seemed to have been more in your face about it.
As I've gotten older I know I am consciously (or subconsciously) drawn to artists whose values and outlook line up closely with my own. It's not a deciding factor but with someone like Devin Townsend, him as a person definitely increased my love for him as an artist. It does tie in, even if it's minor compared to the actual music.
I will say, there are bands I feel kinda gross for liking and that has probably impacted how much I listen to them, but I know I am guilty of sometimes ignoring the stuff I don't feel comfortable with, if it's a band I really like. I guess that's just today's cancel culture though, and part of navigating it.
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As I've gotten older I know I am consciously (or subconsciously) drawn to artists whose values and outlook line up closely with my own.
Now you're starting to frighten me...
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As I've gotten older I know I am consciously (or subconsciously) drawn to artists whose values and outlook line up closely with my own.
Now you're starting to frighten me...
Does twosuitsluke have some questionable values we should all be concerned about? :)
I think this statement has almost always been true for me, but rather than values, I think it's more just their public personalities. I've always very much appreciated that the members of Rush seem to be genuinely nice guys. I'm sure I'd still love Rush's music, but I think this does add to the love I have for them. But at the same time, I know I don't know what they're like behind closed doors and they could be assholes. Everything I've heard or observed says otherwise, so I'm happy enough to believe it and it does contribute to me liking them even more.
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As I've gotten older I know I am consciously (or subconsciously) drawn to artists whose values and outlook line up closely with my own.
Now you're starting to frighten me...
Does twosuitsluke have some questionable values we should all be concerned about? :)
Let's just say I'm very concerned about the fate of the universe. ;)
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Neal Morse being ranked so low baffles me. I mean, obviously, with me ranking him at #2, I'm inclined to be biased. But given how much Neal discussion we have here, and how much love he gets generally on this forum, I'm shocked that he only rated on 6 lists. I would have figured him to be much higher.
I actually agree with both of these assessments. I know there are others - WilliamMunny, Lowdz, TAC - who like Kiss, but the feedback to them here is usually underwhelming compared to the more "prog" hard rock acts (Queensryche, Rush), and even the praise is usually accompanied by some jab at the members. For Morse, though, I think the various avenues of output (Neal, NMB, etc.) really hurt him.
Yeah, I guess I'm gleaning that some here voted separately, which is REALLY bizarre. I mean, Neal Morse has always been, and probably will always be, Neal, Mike, Randy, and supporting musicians. And when those supporting musicians are two specific guys, he uses the word "band" on the end of the name...and that somehow makes it a different entity? I mean, at the end of the day, who cares? It's a ranking on an Internet forum that ultimately doesn't change anything about the real world. For those taking the time to provide their input, it would be nice to have have had some consensus before voting so that we could have had some consistency. But not a big deal.
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For me it was less about separating Neal’s various projects as it was being not so much of a fan of Neal as a solo artist, and I don’t like NMB either. I am a big fan of Neal’s in general, but moreso within the confines of Spock’s Beard, Transatlantic, or Flying Colors.
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As I've gotten older I know I am consciously (or subconsciously) drawn to artists whose values and outlook line up closely with my own.
Now you're starting to frighten me...
Does twosuitsluke have some questionable values we should all be concerned about? :)
Let's just say I'm very concerned about the fate of the universe. ;)
Han-Tyumi for president.
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As I've gotten older I know I am consciously (or subconsciously) drawn to artists whose values and outlook line up closely with my own.
Now you're starting to frighten me...
Does twosuitsluke have some questionable values we should all be concerned about? :)
Let's just say I'm very concerned about the fate of the universe. ;)
Han-Tyumi for president.
As your president, I would vow two things. To die. And to vomit.
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Devin at 25 is crazy. I would have him in my top 15 for sure, maybe top 10.
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As I've gotten older I know I am consciously (or subconsciously) drawn to artists whose values and outlook line up closely with my own.
Now you're starting to frighten me...
Does twosuitsluke have some questionable values we should all be concerned about? :)
Let's just say I'm very concerned about the fate of the universe. ;)
Are you sure you aren't confusing Luke with me? :lol
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Also didn't have Devin in my 25. While do like a lot of his stuff, haven't been a huge fan of it all but that said, do reckon his performance on VAI Sex And Religion is essential, a killer album which I'm still all for :metal
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As I've gotten older I know I am consciously (or subconsciously) drawn to artists whose values and outlook line up closely with my own.
Now you're starting to frighten me...
Does twosuitsluke have some questionable values we should all be concerned about? :)
Let's just say I'm very concerned about the fate of the universe. ;)
Are you sure you aren't confusing Luke with me? :lol
Oh, which bodily function are you going to murder the universe with?
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23t. Coheed & Cambria
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Highest Finish: 1 (twosuitsluke, Vamdera00)
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I like Coheed, I just haven't heard enough to really consider them for my list. The only album I've heard from start to finish is The Color Before The Sun which I really liked. They also put on a hell of a live show, I got to see them open up for Incubus and walked away really impressed.
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I remember hearing the song Feathers many years ago. That's about it :lol
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Still at 4
Coheed & Cambrio
Not found anything that clicked so far.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Coheed & Cambria
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6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
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4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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Highest Finish: 1 (twosuitsluke, Vmadera00)
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Hell. Fucking. Yes
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My dry spell continues. Devin (I only have the album he did with Steve Vai) and Coheed (heard of them but don't think I've heard anything by them) didn't make my list.
All these DTF heavyweights finishing this relatively low, I'm starting to lose hope we're gonna be seeing The Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band on this list.
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I would have never thought C&C would've cracked the top 25. Not for me, and not for lack of trying. You'd think with my love of concept albums (since I've heard that's all they do essentially), they'd click. But they don't. I guess a couple of #1 votes helps them out.
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C&C (not a fan) finishing ahead of both Ayreon and Devin was not on my bingo card.
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C&C (not a fan) finishing ahead of both Ayreon and Devin was not on my bingo card.
There's a lot of bands listed already I would've expected DTF would rate higher than C&C - TDH, Neal Morse (et al), PoS, Riverside, Nightwish. Even S-X. As I said, quality of vote (ie, two #1s) propelled them. Megadeth had 12 votes, but nothing higher than 9th)
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I bought Good Apollo: I'm Burning Star IV: Mansions of Madness and while I do like the album, I still struggle with Claudio's voice. C&C didn't make my list.
C&C (not a fan) finishing ahead of both Ayreon and Devin was not on my bingo card.
Also this.
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Devin Townsend
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Nightwish
NR Megadeth
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
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3. Kiss (Rock And Roll Over; Creatures Of The Night; Hotter Than Hell)
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Not even close.
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Not a C&C fan. Really hated the first thing I heard by them, but have since heard a few things that weren’t so bad.
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That's my third.
Coheed, Dear Hunter and Big Big Train.
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Love Coheed, but did not expect to see them this high.
Seen them live 3 times. 3 of the best shows I've ever seen. I get why it wouldn't be some people's thing though.
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i liked coheed a lot when i was younger but they've fallen off hard for me as the years have gone. they may be in my top 100
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GA1 is one of the greatest albums I’ve ever heard by anyone. But then I found the follow up NWFT to be incredibly boring. Then I figured it out. Having Josh behind the kit made a HUGE difference. Because when they brought him back for the Afterman albums…those were amazing.
But then they did Color Before the Sun and I wasn’t impressed.
They are just too spotty for me, and I don’t find the C&C story to be very compelling either. I even picked up one of the graphic novels when I met Claudio at a Comic Con. Any story that basically starts with someone materializing out of nowhere and claiming your kids are a danger to future existence and the parents just instantly deciding, “well, guess we gotta kill the kids then.” Is a non-starter for me.
Some of their stuff is amazing, some is lame, they didn’t make my list.
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I've never delved too deeply into the story of C&C, but from what I've heard over the years, it's pretty much a Star Wars knockoff.
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I've known about this band for years, but I've never heard a note. Honestly, #23 is surprisingly high to me.
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I've never delved too deeply into the story of C&C, but from what I've heard over the years, it's pretty much a Star Wars knockoff.
There's honestly more of The Dark Tower in there, than Star Wars.
GA1 is one of the greatest albums I’ve ever heard by anyone. But then I found the follow up NWFT to be incredibly boring. Then I figured it out. Having Josh behind the kit made a HUGE difference. Because when they brought him back for the Afterman albums…those were amazing.
But then they did Color Before the Sun and I wasn’t impressed.
They are just too spotty for me, and I don’t find the C&C story to be very compelling either. I even picked up one of the graphic novels when I met Claudio at a Comic Con. Any story that basically starts with someone materializing out of nowhere and claiming your kids are a danger to future existence and the parents just instantly deciding, “well, guess we gotta kill the kids then.” Is a non-starter for me.
Some of their stuff is amazing, some is lame, they didn’t make my list.
I can agree with a lot of this, but not your opinion on Good Apollo II. Yes, Josh behind the kit is the best Coheed, and yes Good Apollo II was a bit more of a straight forward album with less prog leanings, but it is still incredibly good, to me at least.
You're totally right about the ridiculousness of the start of the concept. I'm sure Claudio has agreed in the past and was probably honest about being young and inexperienced when he wrote it.
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23t. Coheed & Cambria
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I like Coheed, I just haven't heard enough to really consider them for my list. The only album I've heard from start to finish is The Color Before The Sun which I really liked. They also put on a hell of a live show, I got to see them open up for Incubus and walked away really impressed.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
29 King Crimson
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20 Riverside
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10 Ayreon
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06 Spock's Beard
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01 Big Big Train
I've really tried getting into C&C, and have even gotten all of their albums in an attempt to give them multiple tries, but they just haven't stuck with me. I don't dislike most of what I've heard but somehow I'm just never really in the mood for them. Maybe one of these days...
-Marc.
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I'm doing some reading now and I definitely didn't know that Taylor Hawkins (RIP) played on a full album of theirs. Also Rami Jaffe who also is in Foo Fighters.
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I still struggle with Claudio's voice. C&C didn't make my list.
All of this, and I'm usually very open to all sorts of vocal styles :lol
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My #1 pick! Apologies for the history lesson in advance, you better buckle up.
I cannot over state how much I love this band. They are everything I love about music rolled into one incredible package. They are heavy. They are proggy. They are poppy. They have great sing along songs. They have energy. They have emotion. They have Sci fi concepts. They have musical reprises. They have Claudio's hair. They have blistering guitar solos. They make me want to play 'air' guitar, drums and bass all at the same time. They have a consistent catalogue. They have a passionate fanbase. They have live shows like no other. They have beautiful lyrics. They have fucked up lyrics. They have beautifully fucked up lyrics. They have an accompanying comic book series. They have an overarching story. Yes, just everything.
For the longest time my favourite band was [redacted as they will be showing up later] but as the years have gone by, Coheed are the band I can return to and NEVER tire of. I can't say that for any other band I listen to. I've burnt out on all my favourites at some point, but not Coheed, never Coheed. For the reasons above, and more.
I've often said that the music that takes the longest time to click, lasts the test of time, and I learnt that from this band. My journey started (like many others) 18 years ago when I heard Welcome Home on a Kerrang cover CD. It blew me away and I listened to that song so many times. Come early 2006 and me and a buddy went to London to see Children of Bodom. Killing time before the show we went CD shopping. I vividly remember picking up Good Apollo I’m Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness and Supercharger by Machine Head (weird what memories stay with you).
Upon arriving home the next day I stuck the album on hoping for more like Welcome Home. Boy was I disappointed. I just didn't get it, it was weird and not what I was expecting. I was getting into lots of new stuff around this time and kinda wrote the band off for a bit. I'd revisit the album every now and then but it didn't grow at all. I still used to spin Welcome Home loads but everything else felt subpar.
Halloween 2007 came and whilst helping a friend set up for a party another friend turned up with the newly released Good Apollo II. He was so excited to play it. We stuck it on, and yea, I thought it was alright but still nothing grabbed me.
In late 2008 I met a girl and we started a relationship. We had really similar music taste and discovered loads of bands together. We were at her best friend's boyfriends house one night and he was playing guitar. I didn't know what he was playing but turns out it was The Light and the Glass by Coheed. I'd not heard In Keeping Secrets at this point but thought what he was playing sounded really cool. He explained a bit about the Coheed concept, stuff I wasn't really aware of, and I decided to give this band another shot. I downloaded In Keeping Secrets and the album started to click for me and my girlfriend. She really liked it and we played it a hell of a lot. I can remember the moment I 'got' the band. I had decided to revisit Good Apollo I, with fresh ears, a better understanding of the concept and a love for In Keeping Secrets. I was stood in my kitchen, spinning the album whilst cooking dinner, and reading the lyrics/looking at all the imagery. It kinda hit me all at once, and I started to appreciate what they were doing. I really became a fan by the end of the album listen.
Not long after I bought the Neverender DVD set. For those who don't know, they played the first Neverender in NYC in 2008, which was a consecutive 4 night set in which they played their first four albums in full, one album per night. My thirst grew with this release and I started to just play their first 4 albums all the damn time. By the time Year of the Black Rainbow came out in 2010 I was a full blown addict, and even bought the special edition version of thar record with the Year of the Black Rainbow hardback book.
When Coheed released the Afterman double album it was around the time I was ending my 18 month travels abroad, and was back in the UK starting a new job, just turning 30 and going through a break up with my girlfriend. I'm not sure if that is why these albums didn't hit but looking back I didn't appreciate them (especially Descension) in the way I should've. I did however, obsessively play Dark Side of Me for a long time.
Come late 2014 and I joined DTF. Discussing my favourite music led me back to Coheed, as there was obviously a good following here. One of the first things I remember about DTF was that through my love of Coheed I was turned on to The Dear Hunter and Thank You Scientist. Around this time was when I realised that through it all, they had slowly cemented themselves as my all time favourite band. 2015 and 2018's releases (The Color Before the Sun and Vaxis I) were not my favorite releases by the band but they are still packed with hits and everything I love about the band.
I've seen Coheed live maybe 10 times, and honestly it is the best experience. Never have I been in a crowd so passionate for the music. For those of you have experienced the band playing In Keeping Secrets (the song) live, you know what I mean. When you have every single voice in that room singing those 'Whooooah-oh-ohhhhh's, it's like nothing else I've experienced. The crowd just go so hard and know every damn word. Coheed are the sort of band that inspire that sort of obsession.
Lastly, I have to talk about Vaxis II. This album may end up being the most important record in my life, because of the lyrical themes and subjects it's helped me deal with in my private life. My son is autistic and is predominantly non verbal in his communication. I don't know if Atlas (Claudio's son) is autistic, and it's not my place to know, but the character of Vaxis is mostly likely based on Atlas and the album is about being a parent for the most part (but wrapped in the concept). Claudio has always written about his life and fit the concept around that, and I don't think the latest album is any different. Regardless, the album has helped me put into words and process my feelings around raising a child who is 'different' and may not fit into society as he gets older. For that it is hugely important alone. It's such a bonus that musically it is also exceptional, Josh kills it on the drums and above all, it's my all time favourite band and who wrote it.
I could list my favourite songs and albums, but honestly that's just like 80% of their catalogue. You can random shuffle their entire catalogue and you'd find something epic.
I won't say anymore, as I've said enough. Thanks for coming to my Coheed Talk.
NR:
Miles Davis
Symphony X
Agalloch
King Crimson
Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Evergrey
UFO
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Nightwish
Katatonia
Helloween
Between the Buried and Me
Anathema
Radiohead
Big Big Train
Peter Gabriel
Riverside
KISS
Ayreon
Spock's Beard
Neal Morse
Pain of Salvation
25. Avenged Sevenfold (Favourite Album: City of Evil. Favourite Song: Cosmic)
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23. Devin Townsend (Favourite Album: Really hard to pick, but today I'll say Terria. Favourite Song: Kingdom or Deep Peace)
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11. The Dear Hunter (Favourite Album: Act IV: Rebirth in Reprise. Favourite Song: Home/A Night on the Town)
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9. Megadeth (Favourite Album: Rust in Peace. Favourite Song: Washington is Next!)
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1. Coheed and Cambria (Favourite Album: Good Apollo I’m Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness. Favourite Song: Wishing Well Suite)
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Highest Finish: 1 (twosuitsluke, Vmadera00)
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Hell. Fucking. Yes
You do remember that he just kicked you out of his roulette, right? ;D
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Like a few others, Claudio's voice is a huge obstacle for me. That said, "The Dark Sentencer" is a fantastic tune in terms of composition, guitar riffs, and killer tone. Their other stuff so far hasn't done much for me, but if nothing else, I have that piece to come back to.
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Highest Finish: 1 (twosuitsluke, Vmadera00)
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Hell. Fucking. Yes
You do remember that he just kicked you out of his roulette, right? ;D
Roulettes are fleeting. Coheed is forever.
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No chance C&C would get within 10 miles of my list. I've never clicked with them.
I know a lot of people like them, but I am a little surprised at how much some people like them. But hey, the heart wants what the heart wants.
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The other half of 23
23t. Mastodon
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Highest Finish: 2 (Vamdera00)
Number of top 10 finishes: 3
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Mastdon made my personal top 40. I only got into them a couple years ago and went on kind of a binge. I still like them but they've sort of fallen off my rotation.
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Still at 4
Mastodon
Might have to give them more of a listen.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon
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4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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Funny, because I’ve only really heard Mastodon and Coheed because of the roulette TAC did where he asked for their music. Wouldn’t say Mastadon really interested me either, but I found a few songs I liked.
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Excellent choice. :tup
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Another one I would never have pegged for Top 25. I never really got the appeal, but did see there name a lot here, so I'm not sure why it surprises me.
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I think bands like Mastodon making the list (and the surprise by some) highlights the growls/non growls, extreme metal/non extreme metal divide on DTF. Many bands that have featured already fall into the extreme metal with growls category and that means they are an automatic write off for many a DTFer (which is fine, and no judgement here).
For the most part though, I'd say those that do embrace the more abrasive music are likely to listen to all these bands featured so far, heavy and soft, whereas everyone else is kinda out of the loop with a plethora of incredible bands.
This list is only as accurate as the list of members who submitted allow, and it will never show a real depiction of DTF tastes (actually, can we make it mandatory for every member to submit a list next time), but it kinda surprises me that some are surprised by the last two bands making the list.
It all relates to the areas/threads of the forum you engage with, and everyone's view will be different, but as much as I have no interest in Neal Morse related projects, I see the thread and it's constant activity, so I am not surprised in the slightest to see him make the list.
Just me thoughts on it all. I'll post my thoughts on how incredible Mastodon are later.
Edit: Thinking about it, the divide isn't just extreme metal/non, it's more about traditional prog/non traditional prog. More of the bands featured are progressive in their own way, but falling falling under the category of more traditional prog
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I liked their album Crack the Skye when it was first out, but I literally never listen to it anymore. I remember hearing another album by Mastodon, which did nada for me, so I moved on.
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I like Mastodon, but they didn’t make the top 25 for me. The first four albums are fantastic, but I feel like they’ve been meandering for the last 4. Hushed and Grim especially was very underwhelming.
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23t. Mastodon
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Mastdon made my personal top 40. I only got into them a couple years ago and went on kind of a binge. I still like them but they've sort of fallen off my rotation.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
29 King Crimson
25 ?
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20 Riverside
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10 Ayreon
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06 Spock's Beard
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01 Big Big Train
Like C&C and Devin and even POS beforehand, Mastodon is another band who I've tried getting into and even own some of their albums. I think they have just been on the "slightly too heavy" side for me, and I am rarely in that mood. I remember finding a couple really cool looking Mastodon artwork shirts at a local retail store and had owned them for awhile but when I realized I wasn't that into them, I gave them away to an acquaintance.
-Marc.
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I enjoy a couple of tracks from Mastodon, but from the latter albums. They seem to become more melodic and accessible from Crack The Skye onwards. Their latest album Hushed And Grim was a heartwrenching double album about the loss of their friend and manager. The song Teardrinker is a highlight for me. They didn't make my Top 25 though.
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love me some mastodon but they didn't make the 25. last time i saw them was a co-headline with Opeth and it ruled though
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I like Mastodon but they weren't in consideration for me. All of their albums are at least decent, but none quite make it over the tipping point to "excellent", for me. Crack The Skye comes the closest. I also really liked the Cold Dark Place EP, which tells me that Brent Hinds really needs to write more of their stuff.
Last time I saw them live, Gojira completely blew them out of the water. That band has no chance of appearing on the list at this point though, which is a shame.
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I like a lot Mastodon from Blood Montain on. It has been a really strong run of albums since them. So many great bands to make only a Top 25!
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I checked out Leviathan from the library and I really really liked it. (In a couple of spots I was thinking, “wow…worship Metallica much?” but it seemed more of an homage than a rip off) But then I also checked out Blood Mountain and the new one and they just didn’t grab me as much.
I’ll probably end up buying Leviathan and revisiting some of the others at some point.
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Mastodon is a good band, but I wouldn't have included them on my list.
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Need to catch up on a few
Devin Townsend - He landed at #4 for me and this is taking into account all of his projects except Strapping Young Lad. He does have a few duds in his (massive) discography, but I enjoy 90% of his music to some extent. I first heard Terria back in 2005ish, thanks to Progulus once again. I liked that album, but didn't explore further (except for picking up The New Black by Strapping Young Lad the following year) until he formed the Devin Townsend Band. I immediately loved Ki and went back and bought the rest of his discography up to that point and the rest, as they say, is history. His recent 3 albums haven't resonated with me as much, but with so much amazing music prior to that it's impossible for me not to rank him this high. He's an amazing vocalist, guitar player, and songwriter and he seems like a super cool and down to earth person.
Coheed and Cambria - Coming in at #11, I got into these guys when I first heard the song A Favor House Atlantic on the radio. This was back shortly after In Keeping....was released. I've been following them since. I love or like all their albums, except Color Before the Sun. That's the only dud in the discography. Overall the band just had a great sense of melody, super catchy sing-a-long parts, and great playing from all band members.
Mastodon - Came in at #39 on my list. Would have landed higher if not for the inconsistency of the last 4 albums. Remission thru Crack the Skye are all amazing albums though.
NR Miles Davis (Would probably make my top 100 even though I've only heard less than half of his stuff. Favorite albums are probably In a Silent Way and Get Up With It)
NR King Crimson (Another that would make my top 100, maybe even top 50. Favorite albums, Red and Discipline)
NR Avenged Sevenfold (A top 50 band most likely. Favorite albums, City of Evil and The Stage)
NR Scorpions (A top 100 band. One of my dad's favorite bands. Favorite albums, Taken By Force and Love At First Sting)
NR Frank Zappa (Kind of the same situation as Miles Davis, except Frank has some stuff that I absolutely don't like, so probably wouldn't be a top 100 artist. Favorite albums, Joe's Garage and Hot Rats)
NR Evergrey (As I mentioned earlier they have some decent albums and their latest may actually be my favorite, but I still don't like Tom Englund's vocals)
NR UFO (A band that I haven't listened to enough. I keep intending on doing a deep dive. I do really like the album Walk On Water)
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor (A band that had 3 masterpieces to start and on the strength of those would have made my top 50, but everything they've done since has been fairly bland)
NR Nightwish (A band that I strongly considered for my initial list and might be in my top 50. Favorite albums, Dark Passion Play and Once
NR Katatonia (A top 100 band easily. Favorite albums, Brave Murder Day and The Fall of Hearts)
NR Helloween (Another top 100 band even though they have about 7 terrible albums. Favorite albums, Keeper of the Seven Keys (both parts) and Gambling With the Devil)
NR Radiohead (Wouldn't sniff my top 100, but I do like some of their stuff. I also find a lot of their stuff extremely boring. Favorite albums, OK Computer and In Rainbows)
NR Big Big Train (A band that keeps rising in my ranks, but is probably still outside of the top 50. Favorite Albums, The Underfall Yard and both parts of English Electric)
NR Peter Gabriel (Kind of forgot about him, but would still be outside my top 50. Great artist though. Favorite albums, the third self-titled (aka Melt) and So)
NR Megadeth (My second favorite of the big 4. Don't like all of their albums, but enough to probably land in my top 100. Favorite albums, Rust In Peace and Dystopia)
NR Kiss (I guess I shouldn't be surprised they are in the collective top 50, but man....they'd probably sit in my bottom 50. Do.Not.Like. I mean, I grew up gaining a love of rock music from Rush, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, and Def Leppard. Kiss was just boring and toothless in comparison.
NR Spock's Beard (Easily a top 100 band for me, maybe even top 50. Got into them with Octane, which I still really like. Favorite albums, The Light and Snow)
NR Neal Morse (I lump Neal Morse Band with solo stuff, but I only listen to NMB. I'm with Jammindude on the solo stuff for the same reasons. Favorite albums, The Similitude of a Dream and The Great Adventure)
NR Pain of Salvation (Most likely a top 50 band, but they are wildly inconsistent. Everything from Scarsick thru In the Passing Light of Day are not good, but the rest of the albums are anywhere from good to amazing. Favorite albums, BE and Remedy Lane)
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39 Mastodon (Favorite Albums, Crack the Skye and Blood Mountain)
38 Ayreon (Another band that I heard first on Progulus back in '03ish. Was a massive favorite for a few years there. Favorite albums, Human Equation and Into the Electric Castle)
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33 Riverside (First heard this band on Progulus back around when Out of Myself was released. Were one of those formative gateway modern Prog bands for me. They've kind of fallen down my rankings in recent years. Favorite albums, Anno Domini High Definition and Out of Myself)
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23 Symphony X (favorite albums, The Odyssey and Divine Wings of Tragedy)
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21 Agalloch (favorite albums, The Mantle and Ashes Against the Grain)
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16 The Dear Hunter (Favorite albums, The Color Spectrum and Act IV)
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11 Coheed and Cambria (Favorite albums, In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 and Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV: Volume Two: No World for Tomorrow)
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8 Between the Buried and Me (Just an amazing band. I was introduced when Alaska was released, fell in love when Colors was released, became an all time great with The Great Misdirect. Favorite albums, The Great Misdirect and The Parallax: Hypersleep Dialogues)
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6 Anathema (From depressive doom, to amazing depressive rock, to uplifting beautiful atmospheric rock. Amazing band with a ton of feel. Favorite albums, Weather Systems and Alternative 4)
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4 Devin Townsend (Favorite Albums, Ocean Machine and Ki)
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Another one I would never have pegged for Top 25. I never really got the appeal, but did see there name a lot here, so I'm not sure why it surprises me.
Same here. I own Crack the Skye but even then I'm not a big fan.
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Another stellar band who deserve to be in the top 25, and I had them at 8.
When I first started getting into more metal with harsh vocals, and just generally heavier than some of what I'd been listening to, Mastodon were a band that were being thrown around a lot. This was 2004 and the metal scene (and publications where I used to get all my info) were fawning over the band and heralding Leviathan as the second coming. I'm not sure if that was the case across the globe, but in the UK with magazines like Kerrang and Metal Hammer, it was certainly the case.
I'd heard I Am Ahab and Blood and Thunder, but I wasn't overly in love with either. I went out and bought the album but the band were a slow burn for me. Always enjoyed but never revered.
I bought Blood Mountain when it came out but it wasn't until Crack the Skye came out that I was truly floored. The proggy-ness was amped up at a time when I was getting into more prog metal, so it was perfectly timed.
Then came the heartbreak however. 2011 brought The Hunter and it's stripped down, more straight forward approach. This album (along with Opeth's Heritage) left me feeling like two of my favourite bands had thrown in the towel. It was a blow that took a few years to recover from, even though I still listened to their older albums. I found Once More 'Round the Sun to be a step in the right direction, but still underwhelming.
It wasn't until Emperor of Sand came out that I had a reinvigorated love for the band. I know I'm kinda in the minority but I think it's one of their best. I love the themes, the hard hitting lyrical content dealing with loss, and the overall imagery. I know that watching the 'making of' documentary for this album helped give me a greater appreciation as well, and would urge every fan to watch it.
That brings us up to Hushed and Grim. I enjoy it, but agree with the general consensus that is probably a bit bloated. It's got some filler, but it also has Gigantium, which has become an absolute favourite.
One thing that surprised me in the last few years was that Blood Mountain has snuck up and become my favourite album. It's a good mix of aggression, prog weirdness and concept. I could happily stick it on once every few weeks.
I love the uniqueness that each member brings to this band. They each very much have their own personalities and styles, that could clash but never seem to. Brann is the clown/King Diamond obsessed drum master, Bill is riff legend and Star Wars fanatic, Troy is the wizard bearded, break back stanced, crazed behemoth and Brent is the eccentric, penis carving, metal/banjo maestro that doubles as the creature from the lagoon. The sharing of song writing as well as lead vocals really mixes up their style and just works so well for me. The concepts they base their albums on also appeals to me, especially as they base the concept around a lot of real human emotion and loss that the band have tragically has to deal with.
Yea, great band.
NR:
Miles Davis
Symphony X
Agalloch
King Crimson
Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Evergrey
UFO
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Nightwish
Katatonia
Helloween
Between the Buried and Me
Anathema
Radiohead
Big Big Train
Peter Gabriel
Riverside
KISS
Ayreon
Spock's Beard
Neal Morse
Pain of Salvation
25. Avenged Sevenfold (Favourite Album: City of Evil. Favourite Song: Cosmic)
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23. Devin Townsend (Favourite Album: Really hard to pick, but today I'll say Terria. Favourite Song: Kingdom or Deep Peace)
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11. The Dear Hunter (Favourite Album: Act IV: Rebirth in Reprise. Favourite Song: Home/A Night on the Town)
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9. Megadeth (Favourite Album: Rust in Peace. Favourite Song: Washington is Next!)
8. Mastodon (Favourite Album: Blood Mountain. Favourite Song: Too many to choose, but currently Gigantium)
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1. Coheed and Cambria (Favourite Album: Good Apollo I’m Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness. Favourite Song: Wishing Well Suite)
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My first entry, and a pretty high one, coming in at #7 on my list.
Blood Mountain blew me away and made me instantly a fan. I also really like their latest. A very unique band IMO, I couldn't compare them to anybody else.
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My first entry, and a pretty high one, coming in at #7 on my list.
Blood Mountain blew me away and made me instantly a fan. I also really like their latest. A very unique band IMO, I couldn't compare them to anybody else.
The closest comparison would be Dvne. They've basically picked up the Mastodon mantle for me over the last 5 or 6 years.
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I'm still not quite a convert to Mastodon yet, but they keep growing on me over time. Hushed and Grim was the first album of theirs I enjoyed as a whole, and there are an increasing number of individual songs I also like. Brann is really the highlight of the band for me. He's a phenomenal drummer and my favorite vocalist of them.
I think bands like Mastodon making the list (and the surprise by some) highlights the growls/non growls, extreme metal/non extreme metal divide on DTF. Many bands that have featured already fall into the extreme metal with growls category and that means they are an automatic write off for many a DTFer (which is fine, and no judgement here).
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Edit: Thinking about it, the divide isn't just extreme metal/non, it's more about traditional prog/non traditional prog. More of the bands featured are progressive in their own way, but falling falling under the category of more traditional prog
The only two so far that are really growl-heavy throughout their discography are Agalloch and BTBAM. But the other newer proggy bands featured that aren't trying to carry on the spirit of the original prog bands tend to be more influenced by alternative-originating scenes, post-hardcore, sludge, gothic rock, alt rock itself, generally things a bit more on the punk side of the tree, etc.
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My first entry, and a pretty high one, coming in at #7 on my list.
Blood Mountain blew me away and made me instantly a fan. I also really like their latest. A very unique band IMO, I couldn't compare them to anybody else.
The closest comparison would be Dvne. They've basically picked up the Mastodon mantle for me over the last 5 or 6 years.
I definitely checked them out at some point but don't really remember If I liked them. Theres Just so many music out there. Maybe I should try again
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Stadler, in fairness, I don't know enough about Gene to know whether he is truly an asshole. I do know, that my opinion on him was mainly formed by some documentary I saw over 20 years ago. Gene was talking about all the women he'd slept with and was saying to the interviewer that he could walk into a party he (the interviewer) was hosting, and leave with his wife (or anyone's wife for that matter) if he wanted to.
I instantly took a dislike to the guy and how full of himself he was. To seriously think that all women desired him. Gross.
Now, maybe that's just all part of his shtick, but I've never had the desire to find out if he's a nice guy or not, because of that first impression.
That's just one person's opinion though.
His interview on NPR's "Fresh Air" program confirmed him as a complete asshole to me, and I haven't given KISS a penny of my money since.
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I'm still not quite a convert to Mastodon yet, but they keep growing on me over time. Hushed and Grim was the first album of theirs I enjoyed as a whole, and there are an increasing number of individual songs I also like. Brann is really the highlight of the band for me. He's a phenomenal drummer and my favorite vocalist of them.
I think bands like Mastodon making the list (and the surprise by some) highlights the growls/non growls, extreme metal/non extreme metal divide on DTF. Many bands that have featured already fall into the extreme metal with growls category and that means they are an automatic write off for many a DTFer (which is fine, and no judgement here).
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Edit: Thinking about it, the divide isn't just extreme metal/non, it's more about traditional prog/non traditional prog. More of the bands featured are progressive in their own way, but falling falling under the category of more traditional prog
The only two so far that are really growl-heavy throughout their discography are Agalloch and BTBAM. But the other newer proggy bands featured that aren't trying to carry on the spirit of the original prog bands tend to be more influenced by alternative-originating scenes, post-hardcore, sludge, gothic rock, alt rock itself, generally things a bit more on the punk side of the tree, etc.
Yea, you're right. After I posted I looked at the bands so far then went back and edited my original post.
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Stadler, in fairness, I don't know enough about Gene to know whether he is truly an asshole. I do know, that my opinion on him was mainly formed by some documentary I saw over 20 years ago. Gene was talking about all the women he'd slept with and was saying to the interviewer that he could walk into a party he (the interviewer) was hosting, and leave with his wife (or anyone's wife for that matter) if he wanted to.
I instantly took a dislike to the guy and how full of himself he was. To seriously think that all women desired him. Gross.
Now, maybe that's just all part of his shtick, but I've never had the desire to find out if he's a nice guy or not, because of that first impression.
That's just one person's opinion though.
His interview on NPR's "Fresh Air" program confirmed him as a complete asshole to me, and I haven't given KISS a penny of my money since.
Yeah, I watched an interview with Gene on Loudwire's (if I remember correctly) Youtube channel a few years back. He treated the interviewer like trash, acted like he didn't want to be there, and was just all around a complete asshole. He definitely showed he was full of himself and thought he was better than everyone else.
Also, on the point of giving to charity. So what? You can be an asshole and still give to charity.
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I've just been listening to Blood Mountain and as much as I love how this album kicks off with The Wolf is Loose into Crystal Skull, I think it's the run of Cappilarian Crest > Circle of Cysquatch > Bladecatcher that is the highlight of the album. Like, how do you write songs like that? They are so fucking weird, and unhinged. It definitely took me a good while to appreciate the genius.
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Highest Finish: 1 (twosuitsluke, Vmadera00)
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Hell. Fucking. Yes
You do remember that he just kicked you out of his roulette, right? ;D
Roulettes are fleeting. Coheed is forever.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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I assume we're going to start getting them more regularly, but it looks like so far we have three pairs of two people voting #1 for artists. Luke and Vmad for Coheed, Buddy and Metro for Devy, and Lethean and I for Katatonia.
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I assume we're going to start getting them more regularly, but it looks like so far we have three pairs of two people voting #1 for artists. Luke and Vmad for Coheed, Buddy and Metro for Devy, and Lethean and I for Katatonia.
What an elite group of nerds.
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I assume we're going to start getting them more regularly, but it looks like so far we have three pairs of two people voting #1 for artists. Luke and Vmad for Coheed, Buddy and Metro for Devy, and Lethean and I for Katatonia.
What an elite group of nerds.
Lethean was 5th out of 19 in my roulette, Buddy is currently #1 in Metro's, and yet Vmad didn't let you into his playoffs and didn't even play in yours. You two clearly need to work your fandom out better. :neverusethis:
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I assume we're going to start getting them more regularly, but it looks like so far we have three pairs of two people voting #1 for artists. Luke and Vmad for Coheed, Buddy and Metro for Devy, and Lethean and I for Katatonia.
What an elite group of nerds.
Lethean was 5th out of 19 in my roulette, Buddy is currently #1 in Metro's, and yet Vmad didn't let you into his playoffs and didn't even play in yours. You two clearly need to work your fandom out better. :neverusethis:
Not for long, if the latest first impressions are any indication. :lol
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Stadler, in fairness, I don't know enough about Gene to know whether he is truly an asshole. I do know, that my opinion on him was mainly formed by some documentary I saw over 20 years ago. Gene was talking about all the women he'd slept with and was saying to the interviewer that he could walk into a party he (the interviewer) was hosting, and leave with his wife (or anyone's wife for that matter) if he wanted to.
I instantly took a dislike to the guy and how full of himself he was. To seriously think that all women desired him. Gross.
Now, maybe that's just all part of his shtick, but I've never had the desire to find out if he's a nice guy or not, because of that first impression.
That's just one person's opinion though.
His interview on NPR's "Fresh Air" program confirmed him as a complete asshole to me, and I haven't given KISS a penny of my money since.
Yeah, I watched an interview with Gene on Loudwire's (if I remember correctly) Youtube channel a few years back. He treated the interviewer like trash, acted like he didn't want to be there, and was just all around a complete asshole. He definitely showed he was full of himself and thought he was better than everyone else.
Also, on the point of giving to charity. So what? You can be an asshole and still give to charity.
That's fair. There are two sides to that, though; Terry Gross clearly didn't do her homework with Gene, mispronouncing his birth name (Chaim Witz), calling his band "The Kiss", referring to their stage costumes as "fishnet stockings" and at one point saying "you are weird". He has gone on record as stating that it was a mutual dislike. There are 100's if not more interviews where he was fair, giving and amiable.
He IS full of himself, and he speaks his mind, such that it is. That's not up for discussion; even he will freely admit that. For me, that's not enough to get to "asshole". There's plenty of people that say all the right things, toe all the right lines, but their core is as black as coal.
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Stadler, in fairness, I don't know enough about Gene to know whether he is truly an asshole. I do know, that my opinion on him was mainly formed by some documentary I saw over 20 years ago. Gene was talking about all the women he'd slept with and was saying to the interviewer that he could walk into a party he (the interviewer) was hosting, and leave with his wife (or anyone's wife for that matter) if he wanted to.
I instantly took a dislike to the guy and how full of himself he was. To seriously think that all women desired him. Gross.
Now, maybe that's just all part of his shtick, but I've never had the desire to find out if he's a nice guy or not, because of that first impression.
That's just one person's opinion though.
His interview on NPR's "Fresh Air" program confirmed him as a complete asshole to me, and I haven't given KISS a penny of my money since.
Yeah, I watched an interview with Gene on Loudwire's (if I remember correctly) Youtube channel a few years back. He treated the interviewer like trash, acted like he didn't want to be there, and was just all around a complete asshole. He definitely showed he was full of himself and thought he was better than everyone else.
Also, on the point of giving to charity. So what? You can be an asshole and still give to charity.
That's fair. There are two sides to that, though; Terry Gross clearly didn't do her homework with Gene, mispronouncing his birth name (Chaim Witz), calling his band "The Kiss", referring to their stage costumes as "fishnet stockings" and at one point saying "you are weird". He has gone on record as stating that it was a mutual dislike. There are 100's if not more interviews where he was fair, giving and amiable.
He IS full of himself, and he speaks his mind, such that it is. That's not up for discussion; even he will freely admit that. For me, that's not enough to get to "asshole". There's plenty of people that say all the right things, toe all the right lines, but their core is as black as coal.
Is this enough??
https://youtu.be/ZaufCW5vz3E?si=-7QuZWq-39HWWcP9
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Pretty sure it's gonna be more than one other who has the same #1 as me!
Excellent write ups, Luke, expressing much of how I feel about Mastodon and C&C. Until you listed The WISHING Well suite as a favorite! ;)
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11. Mastodon
12. Spock's Beard
15. Between the Buried and Me
17. Avenged Sevenfold
21. Coheed & Cambria
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25. Megadeth
31. Kiss
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Coheed: I never clicked with them, but I did get them sent in my roulette and The Dark Sentencer is actually good, wtf.
Mastodon: I only know their album, The Hunter, but if I made a list of my top 50 albums, it would make that list. Yet, i have not listened to anything else by them besides a very good song sent in my roulette (Gigantium).
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Coheed: I never clicked with them, but I did get them sent in my roulette and The Dark Sentencer is actually good, wtf.
Mastodon: I only know their album, The Hunter, but if I made a list of my top 50 albums, it would make that list. Yet, i have not listened to anything else by them besides a very good song sent in my roulette (Gigantium).
You need to check out their first 4 albums. I'd start with Crack the Skye or Blood Mountain.
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I know :lol I will get to them eventually...
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My #1 pick! Apologies for the history lesson in advance, you better buckle up.
This was a great read, Luke! Good stuff.
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Pretty sure it's gonna be more than one other who has the same #1 as me!
Excellent write ups, Luke, expressing much of how I feel about Mastodon and C&C. Until you listed The WISHING Well suite as a favorite! ;)
Yea, my autocorrect hates me :lol
Coheed: I never clicked with them, but I did get them sent in my roulette and The Dark Sentencer is actually good, wtf.
Mastodon: I only know their album, The Hunter, but if I made a list of my top 50 albums, it would make that list. Yet, i have not listened to anything else by them besides a very good song sent in my roulette (Gigantium).
You need to check out their first 4 albums. I'd start with Crack the Skye or Blood Mountain.
You need to listen to this advice.
My #1 pick! Apologies for the history lesson in advance, you better buckle up.
This was a great read, Luke! Good stuff.
Cheers dude, I got a bit carried away.
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Mastodon came in at number 13 for me. Discovering Leviathan when it came out was big for me.
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Mastodon came in at number 13 for me. Discovering Leviathan when it came out was big for me.
Did you decide to take up whaling?
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Another tie!
21t. Queen
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Queen made my top 50 but not 25. Their songs can be very polarizing to me, I will either love their music or hate it, often albums have a good chunk of songs that fall into both categories. DragonAttack's discography thread did give me some new appreciation for some of their music but I still consider them pretty inconsistent.
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I pegged them as a strong likelihood of making the Top 25. They just squeezed in on mine, coming in at 25. Big fan of the 'hits', despite some suffering from being overplayed on Classic Rock radio. I couldn't rate them higher, as I just am not terribly deep with them. I've only actually own A Night at the Opera, and Live Killers. Once I get past the A and B-list songs, I'm not familiar with much - but it is an extremely strong A-list.
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Wow, I am a little surprised that Queen finished this low, although this forum does tilt a lot more towards metal than it used to, so I guess I shouldn't be. They would have been 13th on my list.
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There's no denying Queen really is there. Like I'm sure many of my generation do, when I think of Queen, I think if THAT scene in Wayne's World. Wayne's World and Bill and Ted were huge to me growing up, and were one of many contributing factors of getting into the music I would eventually come to love.
I don't have many bands where I only really like the hits, and haven't delved much deeper, but Queen is one of those bands. Until the last few years I don't think I'd ever heard a Queen album that wasn't a compilation. I've listened to most of their output now, and although I do plan to revisit some, Sheer Heart Atrack is the only one that truly grabbed me.
Incredible band, full of talent that really caught lightning in a bottle. I can't even imagine what it must've been like to see them in their prime.
NR:
Miles Davis
Symphony X
Agalloch
King Crimson
Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Evergrey
UFO
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Nightwish
Katatonia
Helloween
Between the Buried and Me
Anathema
Radiohead
Big Big Train
Peter Gabriel
Riverside
KISS
Ayreon
Spock's Beard
Neal Morse
Pain of Salvation
Queen
25. Avenged Sevenfold (Favourite Album: City of Evil. Favourite Song: Cosmic)
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11. The Dear Hunter (Favourite Album: Act IV: Rebirth in Reprise. Favourite Song: Home/A Night on the Town)
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9. Megadeth (Favourite Album: Rust in Peace. Favourite Song: Washington is Next!)
8. Mastodon (Favourite Album: Blood Mountain. Favourite Song: Too many to choose, but currently Gigantium)
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Queen finished narrowly outside my top 25. One of the greatest bands in history for sure, but there are 25 I like more right now.
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I enjoy some Queen tunes, but never became a fan even though they seem like a band I should like. I think some of the things that make Queen distinct annoy me a bit. I also realized a few years ago that I didn’t really want to hear Bohemian Rhapsody ever again.
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Finally a band that's on my list, I had Queen at #14. I listened to them quite a lot as a kid, I remember buying Greatest Hits on cassette and playing it over and over again. Such a great band.
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I have an old 2-disc best of that I'm quite familiar with, plus some cursory listens to other albums and tracks here and there. They're certainly one of the best bands of their era, with a dynamite pairing of Mercury and May, but I could certainly get much more mileage out of them still.
although this forum does tilt a lot more towards metal than it used to, so I guess I shouldn't be.
I'm not so sure about this. Only about a third of the list so far are unequivocally metal bands. Another third are decidedly not, and the remaining third it depends on the album, or they might straddle the rock/metal line depending on the song. That's a pretty reasonable split for the forum of a band that is a metal band at their core. I don't know if there's any way to find more quantifiable evidence, but that breakdown seems fairly similar in proportion to what I recall of 15-20 years ago. I know less about 5-15 years ago.
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I own A Night at the Opera, but it's by Blind Guardian :P
Only a few classic bands on my list, and Queen wasn't one of them.
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Devin Townsend
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Nightwish
NR Megadeth
NR Mastodon
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
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Queen is sort of an anomaly for me; for me, it's not "the sum greater than it's parts", but rather it's "the parts are greater than the sum". Freddie is just... and I am deeply impressed with Brian May and Roger Taylor. But there are too many songs that are just... "lite" for me, and like Dave said, I have 20-some-odd bands that I like more. When Queen is on, they are are ON! Queen II, Innuendo, A Kind Of Magic... but there is a lot of filler in my opinion in that catalogue.
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I love Innuendo the song, and some of the rest of that album, but I should prob revisit Queen more in depth in the future :corn
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Another tie!
21t. Queen
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Highest Finish: 1 (DragonAttck, DTwwbwMP)
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Queen made my top 50 but not 25. Their songs can be very polarizing to me, I will either love their music or hate it, often albums have a good chunk of songs that fall into both categories. DragonAttack's discography thread did give me some new appreciation for some of their music but I still consider them pretty inconsistent.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
29 King Crimson
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Queen originally made my Top 25 in my initial draft before using the ranking sorter, but afterwards, it just missed by placing 26th, which I mulled over a lot. However upon further consideration, I felt 26 was okay since there's a good chunk of middle-to-late Queen I don't really listen to anyway. It's really just their first six or so albums I really enjoy, and then it gets spotty fr there on out. Looking at the bands that did make my top 25, I can confidently say I love a majority of their discographies, at least half if not way more. For Queen, it's probably just under half for them.
Although now looking at the five bands that missed the cut, placing 26-30 for me, there's one I wish had made my top 25 now. Ah well....
-Marc.
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queen didn't make my list but i do love to karaoke '39, don't stop me now, and a few other of their tunes. great band!! :metal
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My #1 pick! Apologies for the history lesson in advance, you better buckle up.
Great write up.
My story is somewhat similar. I listened to Welcome Home because of Rock Band, and thought it was a really cool song. I tried listening to other stuff but didn't care much for it. Then when YOTBR came out, a friend mentioned the album so I gave it a try and I actually liked it. There were a few songs I really enjoyed, but it didn't make me go listen to anything else.
Then later in 2010 (few months after YOTBR was released), I met this girl, we started dating and I discovered she was a huge Coheed fan (she attended the Neverender shows in 2008). I told her I only knew a few songs so she convinced me to check out some of their other stuff. Few months later we went to a concert to see them and that's when they clicked. By far the most energetic and fun concert I ever been to, and the music was amazing as well. 13 years later, we're still together and we both make sure to go to every local Coheed show. We've seen them probably around 20 times in that time period.
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That's fair. There are two sides to that, though; Terry Gross clearly didn't do her homework with Gene, mispronouncing his birth name (Chaim Witz), calling his band "The Kiss", referring to their stage costumes as "fishnet stockings" and at one point saying "you are weird". He has gone on record as stating that it was a mutual dislike. There are 100's if not more interviews where he was fair, giving and amiable.
He IS full of himself, and he speaks his mind, such that it is. That's not up for discussion; even he will freely admit that. For me, that's not enough to get to "asshole". There's plenty of people that say all the right things, toe all the right lines, but their core is as black as coal.
This:
The chat started off on a sour note when the Israeli-American musician, who was born Chaim Witz, took issue with the way Gross pronounced his Hebrew name. “The name came out through gentile mouth, so it didn’t quite have the flavor,” he said. “It came out bland.” Gross, who is also Jewish, quickly corrected him, saying, “Well, it’s not a gentile mouth.”
Is nowhere near as bad as this:
Things really went off the rails, however, when Simmons began talking about the studded codpiece he wears onstage. “It holds in my manhood,” he said. “Otherwise it would be too much for you to take. You’d have to put the book down and confront life. The notion is that if you want to welcome me with open arms, I’m afraid you’re also going to have to welcome me with open legs.”
The former is a simple mistake, the latter is straight up assholery.
The way he talks to, and about, women is often quite misogynistic IMO. And for a dude that ugly to be such a narcissist is comical.
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Queen. Classic. Pretty good chance they would have made my list.
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Queen came in at #33 on my list. Their bright spots were stellar, but there just isn't enough that I genuinely like for them to rank higher. I've never heard anything by C&C. I think I heard one or two Mastodon songs once and wasn't at all interested.
Interesting that my only three bands so far are German or semi-German.
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Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeath, Riverside, KISS, Ayreon, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Pain of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed & Cambria, Mastodon, Queen
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Mastodon on 10: amazing band with a very versatile discography from the early heaviness to the current more proggy approach. My highlights are Leviathan, Crack the Skye and Hushed and Grim.
Queen on 6: Youth sentiment. One of their Greatest Hits album was the first CD I ever bought. So many great songs and one of the biggest entertainers I've ever seen.
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Another tie!
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EMBARRASINGLY LOW :facepalm:
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Queen loads of great songs, plucked from mostly middling albums.
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Queen loads of great songs, plucked from mostly middling albums.
For once, I am in 100% agreement with ol’ sourpuss. A lot of really fantastic songs, but almost no albums I can listen to straight through.
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Queen would have made my top 25. So many great songs by them. My favorites are The Show Must Go On, Bohemian Rhapsody, I Want to Break Free, and Don't Stop Me Now. And Another One Bites the Dust is the first song I ever learned on bass in full.
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I won't deny that Queen has a fair number of dodgy albums, but II, Sheer Heart Attack and A Night at the Opera are all great listens from start to finish. And I would say the same for Innuendo if not for Delilah. On the flip side, Flash Gordon and Hot Space are hot circles of garbage.
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I won't deny that Queen has a fair number of dodgy albums, but II, Sheer Heart Attack and A Night at the Opera are all great listens from start to finish. And I would say the same for Innuendo if not for Delilah. On the flip side, Flash Gordon and Hot Space are hot circles of garbage.
I will absolutely push back on Flash Gordon…but with the caveat that I don’t really think of it as a Queen album. It’s more like a movie soundtrack album that just happens to be played by Queen. If you like soundtracks (not those “official soundtracks” that are just songs that may or may not have even appeared in the film, but a proper Score of the film) then Flash Gordon is actually a very good album.
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I won't deny that Queen has a fair number of dodgy albums, but II, Sheer Heart Attack and A Night at the Opera are all great listens from start to finish. And I would say the same for Innuendo if not for Delilah. On the flip side, Flash Gordon and Hot Space are hot circles of garbage.
I will absolutely push back on Flash Gordon…but with the caveat that I don’t really think of it as a Queen album. It’s more like a movie soundtrack album that just happens to be played by Queen. If you like soundtracks (not those “official soundtracks” that are just songs that may or may not have even appeared in the film, but a proper Score of the film) then Flash Gordon is actually a very good album.
Agreed
Had Queen at #19 and stand by that \m/
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As a late comer to Queen I bought their Greatest Hits and Greatest Hits II..... such timeless classics.
I was only there for The Miracle and Innuendo. The latter hit me hard and harder again when Freddie died.
Have bought some of their albums later but not all. M
Did not get to see them live but have seen Queen + Adam Lambert.
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Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon
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3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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Queen loads of great songs, plucked from mostly middling albums.
I basically agree with this, except for Sheer Heart Attack, that album is front to back killers. I guess it's because when Queen are at their best they're arguably better than any other band, so their other songs can kind of pale in comparison.
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I won't deny that Queen has a fair number of dodgy albums, but II, Sheer Heart Attack and A Night at the Opera are all great listens from start to finish. And I would say the same for Innuendo if not for Delilah. On the flip side, Flash Gordon and Hot Space are hot circles of garbage.
I will absolutely push back on Flash Gordon…but with the caveat that I don’t really think of it as a Queen album. It’s more like a movie soundtrack album that just happens to be played by Queen. If you like soundtracks (not those “official soundtracks” that are just songs that may or may not have even appeared in the film, but a proper Score of the film) then Flash Gordon is actually a very good album.
Flash Gordon is the only Queen album I think is any good :biggrin:
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Queen (my #25) is like 70's/80's Beatles to me in the sense how they expanded their sound in rock music and yet making memorable, very acessible songs that everybody knows and loves. Amazing discography as a whole!
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BTW, on "they have great hits but weak albums" topic, I think what happens it's a lot of people really like their commercial, "easy" side, but doesn't like their less acessible, sometimes more experimental side of their music. I don't think it's a question of quality, it's just people got used with the acessibility of their singles and kind of get the band the wrong way.
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BTW, on "they have great hits but weak albums" topic, I think what happens it's a lot of people really like their commercial, "easy" side, but doesn't like their less acessible, sometimes more experimental side of their music. I don't think it's a question of quality, it's just people got used with the acessibility of their singles and kind of get the band the wrong way.
For the casual listener yes, but on this forum?
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Part 2 and a band that made my list!
21t. Tool
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Highest Finish: 7 (ReaperKK, King Puppies and The Acid Guppies)
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I've been a fan of Tool since high school when Lateralus. A great band that has a small but incredibly solid discography. They put on one hell of a live show and always feel fresh to me despite always sounding like "Tool".
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Shoulda known Tool would be up here, but yeah... no soup for me.
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I can enjoy a song here and there but that's pretty much it. Pneuma was a highlight from the latest album.
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Shoulda known Tool would be up here, but yeah... no soup for me.
Same here. Thumbs up for the yesterday's choice, though. :tup
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The friend and I who do album reviews did Lateralus about a year ago, and I finally got into it and was able to recognize how good it is, but I have barely listened to it since. I just think Tool is one of those bands that I realize is super talented, but their music just doesn't connect with me in a big way where I want to go out of my way to hear it.
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Lateralus is really strong, but I rarely have the urge to listen to it or anything else by them. Danny Carey is amazing. Maynard is a tool though.
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Part 2 and a band that made my list!
21t. Tool
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I've been a fan of Tool since high school when Lateralus. A great band that has a small but incredibly solid discography. They put on one hell of a live show and always feel fresh to me despite always sounding like "Tool".
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
NR Tool
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I did not rank Tool, but weirdly enough I put on Fear Inoculum before passing out last night and woke up to it this morning. I haven't listened to it, or any Tool in awhile, but was randomly urged to do so. Coincidence? Hmmm... either way, I think they would've made my top 50 but I didn't consider them for my top 30 when doing the sorter. I'd say they definitely deserve a spot here and figured they'd show up somewhere!
-Marc.
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BTW, on "they have great hits but weak albums" topic, I think what happens it's a lot of people really like their commercial, "easy" side, but doesn't like their less acessible, sometimes more experimental side of their music. I don't think it's a question of quality, it's just people got used with the acessibility of their singles and kind of get the band the wrong way.
For the casual listener yes, but on this forum?
I thought on a more general perception, but, yes, maybe here also. I think it has more to do with the expectations that people have on how the band "X" should sound than the capacity to appreciate more complex or different types of music (which I think the majority of people here indeed does).
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Queen and Tool both would've made my list.
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Tool
After I sent in my list I ralised that I had made an error... I forgot to add Tool.
They definitely should have been on my list but alas....
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Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Tool
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2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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Tool is a fantastic band that I find satisfying both with just liking their music/groove, and on an analytical level. Also, they are great live.
Easily would have made my list.
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they really are next level live, it's true. that being said i don't think they would have quite made my top 50, but yeah, live they are fucking unreal
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Devin Townsend
NR Tool
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Nightwish
NR Megadeth
NR Mastodon
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
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Tool is weird; when I listen, I usually LOVE what I hear, I just don't listen to them all that much. I can't ever say that I woke up one day and HAD to listen to Tool. But again, I recognize their greatness. I think it's a matter of just too much music at this point. I will say, too, that I have recently been leaning to more positive music; I just can't get into certain headspace much anymore (Alice In Chains is another example; DIRT is great, but man it is SO bleak I just can't relate).
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Tool is weird; when I listen, I usually LOVE what I hear, I just don't listen to them all that much. I can't ever say that I woke up one day and HAD to listen to Tool. But again, I recognize their greatness. I think it's a matter of just too much music at this point. I will say, too, that I have recently been leaning to more positive music; I just can't get into certain headspace much anymore (Alice In Chains is another example; DIRT is great, but man it is SO bleak I just can't relate).
Yeah, I'm the same way for both bands. Not a place I particularly want to visit often, much less live in.
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Ah, Tool. The Rick And Morty of metal bands. They're very good - they just barely made it onto my list - but I do think they're a bit overrated, especially if you factor in most of their fanbase thinking they're the second coming of Jesus. They've never released a bad album, but their discography is pretty small and also a bit same-y once you get past Aenima, which is by far their best album in my opinion. Lateralus is an album I definitely enjoy but it being lauded as one of the best progressive metal albums of all time does confuse me a little bit when it has a whole 20 minutes after the title track that just draaaags.
I think the biggest strength of this band is its members. Every one of them would be in the running for my favorite musician of their respective instrument. Maynard has both power and a ton of emotional expression - he really knows how to properly deliver everything he's given. Danny Carey is one of those few drummers obviously inspired by Neil Pert who may have actually surpassed him in skill. Justin Chancellor is a bassist you actually notice, especially since he often plays more of a lead line than the guitars. Speaking of which, I get Adam Jones isn't everyone's favorite guitarist, and skill-wise he does seem to be a bit below the bar set by everyone else in the band, but I just like his style. It's simple, maybe a bit limited, but he's great at writing riffs and his tone on Aenima is just otherworldly. They've all got good chemistry together, too.
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Love Tool. #22
Don’t really love any albums all the way through, and I really really don’t like their first album, but they have plenty of songs that I love. Incredible band
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Quick catch up...
Devin Townsend - NR: I like several things he's done over the years. Some of my favorite stuff under his general umbrella - SYL's City, Ocean Machine, Infnity, Terria, Addicted! I have a lot of respect for his approach and the creativity he's put in his music. He's just lost me a bit with how sprawling his catalog is, and there's a good chunk that misses the mark for me
Coheed & Cambria - NR: Another band I have a lot respect for. They went to become successful very much on their own terms. Out-there and nerdy in concept, but also catchy and emotional. I don't have a deep enough familiarity with their entire discography, though. In Keeping...and Good Apollo Vol.1 are the obvious highlights of what I know well. Also agree with the in-house #1 fan Luke that their latest is really good.
Mastodon - had them at #23 (Nailed it! :biggrin:): Great band. Post-2000, they really are up there for me. Discovered them with Leviathan (that opening with Blood and Thunder!!!)...agreed that there's more than a few homages to classic Metallica in there...that album is still one of my favorite of theirs. But then they upped their game even more with Blood Mountain and especially Crack the Skye (my #1). So, so good. The Hunter obviously wasn't the same level, although I didn't mind, in principle, that they scaled back the complexity a bit with that one. It's almost like they needed to do it. Once More...and Emperor are both good, but not blow-me-away good. I actually found Hushed and Grim, as overlong as it is, better than both. Anyway - consistently high quality music (and musicianship) for these guys. Another band that achieved good success while pushing the envelope.
Queen - NR: I can basically quote Stadler almost word for word:
Queen is sort of an anomaly for me; for me, it's not "the sum greater than it's parts", but rather it's "the parts are greater than the sum". Freddie is just... and I am deeply impressed with Brian May and Roger Taylor. But there are too many songs that are just... "lite" for me, and like Dave said, I have 20-some-odd bands that I like more. When Queen is on, they are are ON! Queen II, Innuendo, A Kind Of Magic... but there is a lot of filler in my opinion in that catalogue.
Also agree on the albums (I'd add Sheer Heart Attack to the list as one of the most "consistent"). Many good memories from listenting to their "best ofs", back in the day.
Tool - NR: They would probably be in a top 50, though. My favorite is Lateralus, with Aenema not too far behind. These two, for me, live up to all the hype. There's stuff that's kind of unnecessary, but I guess that's part of the package. And there's enough amazing material to make up for it. And Carey's drumming. Well. Absolutely and categorically fantastic.
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Lateralus is an album I definitely enjoy but it being lauded as one of the best progressive metal albums of all time does confuse me a little bit when it has a whole 20 minutes after the title track that just draaaags.
It's been over a decade since I pulled out and listened to the whole CD. I have seven tracks ripped to my computer, and my memory is that the rest of it is filler sound effects and noise tracks (and the dreadful Ticks and Leaches). But those 7 tracks are all strong and would have made a great album on their own (they clock in at 53:59). Reflection is long and maybe a bit monotonous, but I do think it's a cool track.
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Lateralus is an album I definitely enjoy but it being lauded as one of the best progressive metal albums of all time does confuse me a little bit when it has a whole 20 minutes after the title track that just draaaags.
It's been over a decade since I pulled out and listened to the whole CD. I have seven tracks ripped to my computer, and my memory is that the rest of it is filler sound effects and noise tracks (and the dreadful Ticks and Leaches). But those 7 tracks are all strong and would have made a great album on their own (they clock in at 53:59).
But Ticks and Leaches is amazing! :metal
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Tool was in my top 30 and one of my half a dozen hard cuts that were practically interchangeable. I bought Lateralus close to when it came out, probably off of hype. I listened to it a fair amount at the time, and while I liked it, I don't think I quite "got it" back then. The music I listened to around then was generally much less subtle, with all the typical prog metal, power metal, shred guitar and such. It wasn't as obvious as the other alt rock and nu-metal I was listening to either. I found it intriguing though, and it kept growing on me over time.
Honestly a few years before the release of Fear Inoculum is the most I've ever liked them as the result of a binge I did. They're all excellent at what they do, but Danny Carey has become my favorite drummer over time, and the endlessly fascinating things he does is always my focal point for them. I can see how people might find some of their material overly long, but I think there's a hypnotic quality to it that appeals to me with them and not with some other bands. And Lateralus, still their best album, is just incredible-sounding from a production standpoint.
Interestingly, I would probably agree that they are overrated, in the sense that they're much more well-known than most of the bands on my own list (heck, half of those aren't even well-known here), and they have a well-deserved reputation for having insufferable fans (occasionally I'm one of them), but good lord DT certainly has those too, it's just often the nature of prog bands.
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21t. Tool
A guy at my office likes Tool and keeps sending me songs, and I've yet to hear anything I've enjoyed.
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Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeath, Riverside, KISS, Ayreon, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Pain of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed & Cambria, Mastodon, Queen, Tool
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Gave the Lataralus tracks that I like a spin. I do think there is something really cool about the way those songs were constructed, but they aren't the most vibrant sounding stuff and I can see why I rarely revisit this.
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Two excellent groups revealed. I just saw Queen with AL Sunday night! First time seeing any incarnation of the band and it was pretty cool. As mentioned already, I wish I could have seen them in their prime. Tool, I saw back in 07? and never since. From videos I've seen online, they look to still be about the same live experience. Great players and great music though, no doubt.
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Tool came in at number 9 for me. Love them. One of the first heavier bands I ever got into.
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Tool are great, but I don't know all their stuff. Favorite songs are Lateralus, Vicarious, and Schism.
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Tool came in at #20 for me. They have a relatively limited box of tricks but what they do with those tricks is peerless. One of those bands that truly feel like one single 'organism' rather than separate players.
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There's plenty of Tool I love but aside from Aenema which was huge into when it came out, they're less an albums band more particular songs fer me. So not quite enough to have the in my own 25, somewhere in the 30's sounds about right. Fear Inoculum was a tasty return too :metal
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The first Tool song I heard was Reflection, it's very hypnotizing.
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Tool had to be on my list, I just wasn't sure where to put them. They made #20 for me. Lateralus, my first introduction to the band, got me, as an adult, excited like a 13-year old listening to Number of the beast for the first time (just like Mastodon's Blood Mountain did). A great, but small catalogue.
I'm still baffled how popular this band is though. This is complex, not very accessible music and I thought it would only appeal to progressive music nerds (like me), but still they're selling out the biggest venues and can headline any festival they want. Don't get me wrong, this is a good thing, but it's just strange IMO.
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I moderately enjoy Tool whenever I hear them, but I never consciously seek out their music. I should probably listen to some of their stuff and pay more attention. For now, not ranked.
0/5 for me for the actual Top 25 so far.
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Starting the Top 20
20. Black Sabbath
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Highest Finish: 4 (wolfking)
Number of top 10 finishes: 3
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I can recognize the impact that Black Sabbath has had but I could never get into them. THe only songs I listen to is Planet Caravan or War Pigs.
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Nice, they didn't quite make my Top 25 but I definitely like them. I'm all about the Ozzy years though. That's the Sabbath voice for me.
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0/6 for the Top 25
I love Dio albums and that's about it.
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#23 for me
Love the Ozzy albums, and some scattered stuff from the other eras.
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Starting the Top 20
20. Black Sabbath
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 13,851,208
Highest Finish: 4 (wolfking)
Number of top 10 finishes: 3
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I can recognize the impact that Black Sabbath has had but I could never get into them. THe only songs I listen to is Planet Caravan or War Pigs.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
NR Tool
NR Black Sabbath
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26 Queen
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06 Spock's Beard
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I didn't rank BS, mostly because I don't really listen to them or know their music outside of the really popular radio hits. It doesn't surprise me that they made the top 25 though!
-Marc.
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Dang! Had Sabbath pegged for a Top10 in the overalls but there ya go. Had them at #12 and expected they were higher on my own list tbh. Some of my most prized vinyl and CD Deluxes are made up of the likes of Mob Rules and Heaven And Hell :metal
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Huh, definitely thought they'd be higher. I like them and their place in music history is unimpeachable, but I just rarely listen to them these days.
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We love to see Black Sabbath!
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They just missed my cut, but I figured they’d make the top 25. I’ve never fully dove in with/to them, but pretty much love everything I know of them. Someone should run a discography discussion thread in them (if it hasn’t been done already). Wolfking seems like he’s volunteered, being the one to rate the. Highest!
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Never had any interest in Black Sabbath.
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Definitely worthy of being in any top band list...not sure if they would've made my cut but still absolute fucking legends.
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I like their first albums, in particular Paranoid, before they became the staple for all Heavy Metal, back when they were making something quite unique and interesting.
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Paranoid through Sabotage they're in the 5 Albums Streak Pantheon.
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I certainly recognize and acknowledge their place in music history, but I don't give a wet fart about Black Sabbath.
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Had 'em #12, awesome band but I'm all about the first 6 with Ozzy and the first 3 Dio ones (not counting H & H).
19. Megadeth
12. Sabbath
8. Symphony X
7. Scorpions
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They're good. I saw Heaven and Hell in concert in my early 20s and that was a very memorable concert, as I was front row and Dio pointed right at me and I was able to get the photo on my flip phone (I no longer have that photo, sadly). I wouldn't put them on my top 25 or 50.
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Pretty cool band. But if you own We Sold Our Soul and the two Dio albums, that’s all you need.
I didn’t rank them, but I’m not shocked to see them here.
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I love the first six Sabbath albums (all are essential) and the first album with Dio, but not much else. They wouldn't have made my top 25, as I simply don't listen to them enough anymore. I did give Paranoid a bunch of recent spins, but it had been a while. Excellent and ground-breaking band, but just not a favorite for me anymore.
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Black Sabbath - not in my top 25, but would have a solid chance at my top 50.
In terms of the "classics", it was a late discovery for me. Which was strange, because I was into "darker" music almost right away...I guess what I initially heard of the classic period with Ozzy had sounded a little too...sludgy?...and at that stage it didn't grab me.
At some point, though, I did a deep dive and they definitely clicked. I find the debut a little too meandering (although there are some undeniable classics, of course), but everything from Paranoid to Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is pure gold. Sabotage has some amazing stuff and some not-so-amazing stuff...and the balance shifts towards the not-so-great with Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die!. Clearly, they needed a change, and Dio brought it. Heaven and Hell is a classic, and Mob Rules is very good. I find Born Again strangely fascinating and Seventh Star ok (although, as we recently discussed, not much of a "Black Sabbath" album). The Tony Martin-era is overall very good. A different-sounding band, I'd say - much more "classic metal" in its approach. I know there are many fans who hold this era in very high regard, perhaps even as a favorite. I actually have a very soft spot for Cross Purposes, which I enjoy more than the Dio "intermission" with Dehumanizer.
The Ozzy comeback album was decent...clearly there was some desire from the band (and push from Rubin) to revisit the early Sabbath sound. I did listen to that one quite a bit when it came out, but I haven't gone back to it in a while.
Anyway, hugely important band, with a well deserved spot in the history of hard rock and metal.
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I really like what I've experienced of Black Sabbath (mostly the early albums). I still need to dive into more of the later stuff. So many other groups that I'm more into though.
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11. Mastodon
12. Spock's Beard
15. Between the Buried and Me
17. Avenged Sevenfold
20. Tool
21. Coheed & Cambria
25. Megadeth
31. Kiss
34. Queen
79. Black Sabbath
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Sabbath came in at number 4 for me. Such an iconic metal band and love every era. So much to enjoy across the whole catalogue.
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Pretty cool band. But if you own We Sold Our Soul and the two Dio albums, that’s all you need.
I didn’t rank them, but I’m not shocked to see them here.
You're actually missing out on a shit ton of amazing music from the Tony Martin era.
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Pretty cool band. But if you own We Sold Our Soul and the two Dio albums, that’s all you need.
I didn’t rank them, but I’m not shocked to see them here.
You're actually missing out on a shit ton of amazing music from the Tony Martin era.
You're also actually missing out on a shit ton of amazing music from the Ozzy Era.
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You're also actually missing out on a shit ton of amazing music from the Ozzy Era.
Yep. If someone is a fan of Sabbath at all, the first six albums are essential. Every single one of them.
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It's all about timing but weirdly am less a fan of the original lineup stuff and more a fan of the Ozzy solo catalogue up to and including Ozzmosis (before it all went to complete shit).
While dig a ton of original Sabbath (War Pigs SBS etc how could you not?) but so far as albums go am way more into the DIO releases including Dehumanizer which is IMO an absolute classic and these days probably more partial to Mob Rules than I am H&H even but any those could make my top whatever albums any day the week ;)
Tony Martin era is fantastic and Eternal Idol is essential IMO
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Pretty cool band. But if you own We Sold Our Soul and the two Dio albums, that’s all you need.
I didn’t rank them, but I’m not shocked to see them here.
You're actually missing out on a shit ton of amazing music from the Tony Martin era.
You're also actually missing out on a shit ton of amazing music from the Ozzy Era.
Yeah this too. Every Ozzy album is worth attention IMO. I was blinded by my Tony Martin love when reading that post.
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Neal making a third appearance on the list today.
19. Transatlantic
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 14,779
Highest Finish: 3 (The Letter M, The Great Zo, SomeoneLikeHim)
Number of top 10 finishes: 4
Number of Lists appeared on: 9 (Metropolaris, SwedishGoose, The Letter M, Setlist Scotty, CharlesPL, The Great Zo, SomeoneLikeHim, bosk1, MustActFastToCoverUp)
The only album I've listened to is The Absolute Universe and it didn't really make an impression on me. I'll give The Whirlwind a spin today in honor of this posting.
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Did not make my list, although I enjoy their work, The Whirlwind in particular.
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I am not sure where Transatlantic would have ended up on my list, but they would have made my top 25. They just don't have enough albums to make the top 10, though. That said, The Whirlwind and SMPTe might both be in my all-time top 10 albums now, and Bridge Across Forever is not far behind.
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Kev where would've Transatlantic, NM, NMB, and Spock's Beard ranked for you?
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Transatlantic would have placed fairly high on my list. Top 15 at least, maybe Top 10.
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I am not sure where Transatlantic would have ended up on my list, but they would have made my top 25. They just don't have enough albums to make the top 10, though. That said, The Whirlwind and SMPTe might both be in my all-time top 10 albums now, and Bridge Across Forever is not far behind.
Glad we saw them together. Seeing The Whirlwind live was amazing.
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Kev where would've Transatlantic, NM, NMB, and Spock's Beard ranked for you?
TA and Spock's would have made it, but neither would have been top 10. TA likely around 15 or so, Spock's likely a bit lower.
Solo Neal and NMB I would have combined and they likely would have finished 4th. If I had to rank them separately, that would take some thought.
I am not sure where Transatlantic would have ended up on my list, but they would have made my top 25. They just don't have enough albums to make the top 10, though. That said, The Whirlwind and SMPTe might both be in my all-time top 10 albums now, and Bridge Across Forever is not far behind.
Glad we saw them together. Seeing The Whirlwind live was amazing.
Indeed it was! That was my favorite of the six nights from the three Morsefest shows I have attended. Simply amazing.
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Neal making a third appearance on the list today.
19. Transatlantic
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Highest Finish: 3 (The Letter M, The Great Zo, SomeoneLikeHim)
Number of top 10 finishes: 4
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The only album I've listened to is The Absolute Universe and it didn't really make an impression on me. I'll give The Whirlwind a spin today in honor of this posting.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
NR Tool
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Okay, this is getting really weird. Like with Tool the other night, I went to bed listening to The Absolute Universe, just randomly, only to wake up and see Transatlantic was next in this countdown. I'm convinced I'm a clairvoyant of some sort. Just not for anything useful. :lol
This band could've been my number two, but with just five albums compared to my actual number two, I felt like it had to drop a spot, though now I'm sure my number two probably did not rank given how niche they are, even compared to Transatlantic.
My eternal favorite TA album has to be Bridge Across Forever (with my personal edit that restores the ending to "Suite Charlotte Pike"), with The Whirlwind not far behind, while TAU gets better with age for me (the Ultimate Mix especially).
The debut is still really strong for me though I prefer the Stolt Mixes (better bass, more guitar), and Kaleidoscope is a pretty good album as well, but easily my least favorite (though that's like distinguishing a 4.0/5.0 album from four others that are all 4.5 or higher).
-Marc.
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Neal making a third appearance on the list today.
19. Transatlantic
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 14,779
Highest Finish: 3 (The Letter M, The Great Zo, SomeoneLikeHim)
Number of top 10 finishes: 4
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The only album I've listened to is The Absolute Universe and it didn't really make an impression on me. I'll give The Whirlwind a spin today in honor of this posting.
I own all their stuff, but they didn’t make my list. I like them, but the only album of theirs that I absolutely love from front to back is Bridge Across Forever.
And the greatest thing they ever did was the half hour long Suite Charlotte Pike/Abbey Road Medley from Live in Europe.
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Catching up here. No spots on my list for Devin Townsend, Coheed and Cambria, Mastodon, Queen, Tool, or Black Sabbath. Just not bands I listen to. I've tried with Devin -- as I think he's brilliant, a great interview, and I enjoyed his set at DreamSonic -- but I find his music all over the place and hard to connect to.
Which brings us to Transatlantic, which I ranked #3 -- one spot ahead of Spock's Beard on my list. Transatlantic has the smallest discography of any band in my top 8, but wow, is it good.
Bridge Across Forever is a top 10 all-time album for me, and probably top 5. Stranger really is the "epic to end all epics". An absolute favorite. Fortunate to have seen it twice in its entirety -- once on the Whirlwind tour, and during the sail-off show on CTTE2017.
The Whirlwind is almost as good. If not a masterpiece, then very close to it. SMPTe is also very good, though I don't think the highs are as high as on the second and third albums.
Kaleidoscope was a letdown. Into the Blue is good, if not great, but Kaleidoscope is a cut-and-paste mess. I was wondering if they were done, and I had low expectations for The Absolute Universe. Despite the crazy drama and the different versions, I was shocked at how good TAU was. It's right up there with The Whirlwind for me.
As for seeing the band live? The Whirlwind show (Park West in Chicago) is one of my favorite concerts I've ever attended. I was at the Kaleidoscope and TAU shows at the Arcada, and they were a little bit of a step down. Not a fan of the medleys, and Roine was particularly bad on the Kaleidoscope tour night. I also wish they hadn't downtuned TAU a half step -- bothersome for someone with perfect pitch. But there was still a lot to like.
Great band with incredibly high highs, and numerous songs/albums that I'd consider among my favorites by any band.
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This thread's been a very good an educational read. Not a fan of some artists, have heard or purchased albums of others. The prior post is a good write up of one of those artists.
Karolis, thank you for your acknowledgement and kind words regarding the Queen discography. :tup
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=57201.0
Other than a couple of songs up through 'The Game', I would change little on the first eight albums. The variety of music and styles, including Brian and Roger having a LV or two per album. The backing vocals. The symphonic sounds from the old fireplace. The slow songs and the rockers. The 80s brought a few very good, a few pleasant, but too many 'meh', bad, and alienating songs. 'Innuendo' and 'Made In Heaven' were two superb albums to close things out.
The archives finally gave us the entire and cleaned up BBC Sessions, with some terrific alternate versions. 'Spread Your Wings' and the extended 'Son And Daughter' were the main highlights, and well worth checking out.
Oh, and they had Freddie. ;)
Thanks for providing the Spotify numbers. So, far, most are below 1M a month. The ones above are:
Frank Zappa 1M (rock music’s greatest xylophone player)
Mastadon 1M
Helloween 1.2M (Michael Kiske rules!)
Coheed & Cambria 1.3M
Nightwish 2.5M
Tool 4.1M
Peter Gabriel 5.3M
A7X 10M
Scorpions 12M
KISS 13M
Black Sabbath 13.8M
Radiohead 24M
And finally...
Queen 47M
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Black Sabbath
Not rated as I don't relly listen too much to them.
Transatlantic
Love me some Transatlantic. The Absolute Universe forevermore has taken on a special meaning to me as I was listening to it when my father died. I even know where in the album it happened.
I love the album but can't listen to it without beeing reminded of my father.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath
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2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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TA didn’t make my list …. Hard to put a band with only 5 albums to their credit as a top of all time, especially when they really lost me with TAU. Seeing Kaleidoscope in full on ProgNation at Sea as the ship disembarked (and the sun was very low on the horizon) was something else. Lots of great live releases too!
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#15. Love Transatlantic.
The first 3 albums are flawless, the last 2 are just alright. Getting to see The Whirlwind in full at Morsefest last year was a top 10 concert for me.
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Reaper, give The Whirlwind a good listen. It's incredible.
Long ago I tried the first two albums but they didn't click, but for some reason The Whirlwind blew my mind. Those first two albums deserve another chance more than a decade later.
I also lost my Whirlwind CD years ago, I requested it for Christmas this year (since my car still has a CD player).
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I did not include Transatlantic on my list, for some of the same reasons I didn’t include Neal Morse as a solo artist. It’s unfortunate, because SMPTe and Bridge Across Forever are two of my favorite albums of all time and are essentially what got me interested in prog rock beyond prog metal. I love those albums to this day.
But nothing else TA did could really live up to them, and I don’t care for much of any of the reunion albums. The Whirlwind just doesn’t do anything for me, and Kaleidoscope is largely forgettable. I probably enjoyed The Absolute Universe the most of the last 3 albums, but it’s so disjointed with the different versions that it’s all a bit of a blur too. Some nice moments there, but it’s all sort of just borrowed light from the first two albums.
So while I have a ton of esteem for Transatlantic and Neal especially, I just didn’t feel like when I considered their entire body of work that I needed to rank them. That and all of the individual members are represented elsewhere on my list.
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The Whirlwind is incredible, but I would rank their first two albums among my favorite albums of all time by anyone.
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Transatlantic didn't make my list but I do like them a lot. These days though I tend to only listen to the first 2 songs on their debut (All of the Above and the absolutely beautiful We All Need Some Light). For me those 2 songs encompass the band and on the (these days rare) occasions I want a TA fix, they're enough to scratch the itch.
Going back a day, I'm not familiar with Black Sabbath outside of a few songs, and the only one I really like is the Beatlesy ballad It's Alright.
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I own and have heard a few TA albums, but they're another artist that I just haven't been compelled to return to much. I think I mentioned it on an earlier entry, but for some reason modern prog rock bands are the biggest blind spot for me, I'm more apt to go for older prog rock, or prog metal for modern material. "We All Need Some Light" is an incredible song though and I do play that one still on occasion (like right now).
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Oh man, I forgot We All Need Some Light is TA. I love that song. I covered it live at an acoustic concert once upon a time and it was a hit with the crowd.
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11. Mastodon
12. Spock's Beard
15. Between the Buried and Me
17. Avenged Sevenfold
20. Tool
21. Coheed & Cambria
25. Megadeth
31. Kiss
34. Queen
38. Transatlantic
79. Black Sabbath
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These last few are a miss for me. Artists I respect and understand why people would list them but just not entirely there for me.
Looking at the rest of my list I'm pretty sure at this point that there's three artists (of which two highly ranked) that will still show up but I'm probably out of luck for pretty much everything else.
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At this point I'm 0/7 and 3/32. There's one more from my list that I'm pretty sure will show up still, another that might, but if they do will be higher than I'd have expected them to have been, and anyone else will be quite a surprise.
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When my #2 didn’t show up in 26-50, I was excited because I thought for sure they would show up in the high 20s. Because I know they have other fans here. But now I’m losing hope that they will appear at all. :'(
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Got behind with this so will post a round up. I'm 0/3 with Tool, Black Sabbath and Transatlantic.
Tool are a band I listen to every now and then and enjoy to a degree, but definitely don't see what others do when we're talking about the best bands ever. They may have snuck into my top 100 bands, but probably not.
Black Sabbath I've been listening to basically as long as I've been listening to metal. For the longest time I only listened to the Ozzy albums (which are still my favourites) and have only recently tried some of their other eras. If we're talking about classic bands who had a debut around this time, then there is another band (who will be showing up later) who were a WAY bigger influence on my tastes. Sabbath are cool and as much as I appreciate their influence, I prefer the bands that took their sound further. One last thing, I do have an original first pressing of Black Sabbath on vinyl, that my Dad bought on release. It's in poor condition, but it'd be worth a bit if it was in good nick.
Lastly, Transatlantic. This is the biggest surprise to me. Not necessarily that they made the list, but how high they placed. I know they are well loved around here, but I guess I underestimated how well loved they were. Like Lizzo, modern prog rock is also a bit of blind spot for me. I've listened to a few of their albums, but nothing grabbed me and left with an urge to hear more.
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Miles Davis
Symphony X
Agalloch
King Crimson
Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Evergrey
UFO
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Nightwish
Katatonia
Helloween
Between the Buried and Me
Anathema
Radiohead
Big Big Train
Peter Gabriel
Riverside
KISS
Ayreon
Spock's Beard
Neal Morse
Pain of Salvation
Queen
Tool
Black Sabbath
Transatlantic
25. Avenged Sevenfold (Favourite Album: City of Evil. Favourite Song: Cosmic)
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20. Avenged Sevenfold
17. Spocks Beard
14. Ayreon
9. The Dear Hunter
8. Big Big Train
6. Pain of Salvation
4. Neal Morse
3. Transatlantic
Missed some days when I was on vacation but my only hit was Transatlantic, the first band that I was the (tied) highest voter for!
Transatlantic was my introduction to Neal Morse who would then grow to become one of my all time favorite musicians. Yes they only have 5 albums but the quality, especially in the first 3, is incredible. In fact my #2, that I now doubt will appear, has even fewer albums. :biggrin: I could have switched places between this and solo Neal/NMB at #4 but this felt right. Bridge Across Forever and The Whirlwind are my two favorite Neal related albums after all.
Devin was very close to making my list and Tool is somewhere in the top 50. Coheed is a band that I've been meaning to check out for the longest time. Everything I hear said about them makes me think they would be up my alley, I´ll try to make it happen this time!
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Man, I wish this thread was only posting Mon-Fri...I keep logging on each Monday only to find that I'm wayyyyy behind on posts :mehlin
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18 Up!
18. Marillion
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Marillion didn't appear on a lot of lists but 71% of the lists they did appear on they placed in the top ten. Personally I know two Marrillion songs and I enjoyed them but not enough to push me to explore their music any further.
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Not bad for a band that only released four albums. And that was back in the 80s!
I remain at one band. Reckon I'll finish on four or five.
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Now we're talking. Probably would've been my #3 behind DT and IQ
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I tried like hell to love Marillion many years ago, but failed. I normally wouldn't spend so much time trying to get into a band, but they were talked up so much and Pete was in TA that I felt it was a band that would eventually get through the gates for me. And it never happened. I do like some of their songs, but outside of a couple, I never feel the urge to listen to them.
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I enjoy some songs from the Fish era, but whenever I try some Hogarth era stuff it kinda leaves me cold. I quite like Easter though. I can see them being a band I could like, but they just don't click with me.
Edit: Pretty much the same sentiment as Kev posted above.
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I had thought they might land a little higher, but 18 isn’t a bad finish given the amount of engagement in the main Marillion thread.
Marillion are my favorite band, and I was introduced to them through my previous favorite band, DT. The first thing I ever heard by them was Easter as performed on 5YiaLT. That solo just blew me away, and I loved the overall progression of the song. One of the most beautiful songs I’d ever heard, and I still love it despite it also being one the songs I’ve heard most in my life.
Marillion have a large and varied catalog, so your first impression of them may not be reflective of how you’d feel about other albums. I had Seasons End, Holidays in Eden, and Anaraknophobia before they really started to click with me upon hearing Brave, Marbles, and Afraid of Sunlight. Those three are their masterpieces, and they really made the band shoot up to where I became pretty obsessed with them. I love something about each album in the H years, and while some are weaker than others I don’t think they’ve made a bad album. Their willingness to explore random genres and make them sound their own is unmatched (blues on Born to Run, surf rock on Cannibal Surf Babe, Motown on Beyond You, dub on House, etc.)
It took me a while to circle back to the Fish era, and it still feels a bit like a different band to me than the one I fell in love with. I don’t care much for the first two albums, but Misplaced Childhood is really good, and Clutching at Straws is their 4th masterpiece. A lot of people have a strong preference for one version of Marillion or the other, and I’m no different, but I do appreciate the Fish era for what it was.
I’m also one of the few around here it seems who holds their recent output in pretty high esteem. The last 3 albums have been really good to great after a short post-Marbles swoon. I thought FEAR was a tremendous late career statement, and then I think An Hour Before It’s Dark went and topped it. They’ve managed to carve out their own sound and style in their later years here that is really unique but really good IMO.
I’ll try to do a list of my favorites from each album, but the 4 albums I’d definitely recommend are Afraid of Sunlight, Brave, Marbles, and Clutching at Straws. Chances are you’ll find something in those albums that knocks your socks off.
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25. Between the Buried and Me
20. Avenged Sevenfold
17. Spocks Beard
14. Ayreon
12. Marillion
9. The Dear Hunter
8. Big Big Train
6. Pain of Salvation
4. Neal Morse
3. Transatlantic
I'm one of the two voters who had Marillion but not in the top 10, and it was still at #12! Misplaced Childhood is one of my all time favorites and might have been the first prog album I fell in love with. The other Fish albums are also close to my heart. I haven't heard all of the H albums but Brave and Marbles are incredible.
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I got into these guys a couple years ago. I really liked the first four albums, some of the later ones were fairly enjoyable as well, but I wasn't blown away. And I somewhat expected to be blown away. So that was a problem.
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Still at 6
Marillion
Back in the day they were my number 1 and I was totally obsessed. But then Fish left.
The first album with H was good and I thought this might work in the future but then they left me behind or vice versa. Anyway I have tried time and time again but Marillion is not on my radar anymore.
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Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion
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3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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Pretty cool band. But if you own We Sold Our Soul and the two Dio albums, that’s all you need.
I didn’t rank them, but I’m not shocked to see them here.
You're actually missing out on a shit ton of amazing music from the Tony Martin era.
Even from the Ozzy era!!! Their two best Ozzy albums - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage - are criminally under-represented on that set. Am I Going Insane is like the worst song on the entire Sabotage record (and not at all indicative of the sound).
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Love the Fish era of Marillion. Clutching at Straws is a top 15 album for me. Still getting into the H era.
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18 Up!
18. Marillion
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Marillion didn't appear on a lot of lists but 71% of the lists they did appear on they placed in the top ten. Personally I know two Marrillion songs and I enjoyed them but not enough to push me to explore their music any further.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
NR Tool
NR Black Sabbath
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28 Marillion
26 Queen
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06 Spock's Beard
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Marillion was another that originally made my list but then barely missed the cut when I sorted them again.
I've kept up with every new release since Happiness Is The Road and have enjoyed them to varying degrees. When they hit, they hit, but I also have to be in the rare mood for them, so they don't get spun as much. I'd say I rather prefer H-Era over Fish but both are great.
-Marc.
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I had Marillion in my top 5. At one point, they were my favorite band, and I still rate Afraid of Sunlight as my favorite album of all time. I agree with HOF that their masterpieces are AOS, Brave, Marbles and Clutching at Straws, and I would place all four of these albums in my personal top 15. I saw them live 3 times in 4 days back in 1997, and I haven't had a chance to catch them since. Outside of Clutching, I very rarely listen to the Fish era and I don't rate Misplaced Childhood very highly. However, I do think both Fish and H are two of the best lyricists in the field, and I would love to sit in a pub with those two and listen to their war stories!
Speaking of that 1997 tour, when they played in Grand Rapids, MI, they did an in-store appearance at a local record store, because they somehow had a big following in GR, and I had asked H if they would play their cover of You've Got To Hide Your Love Away by The Beatles, and they did!
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Tool didn't make my top 25, but I love the more prog and energetic side of Tool, so Lateralus is my fave album and I think there's a lot of great music on Aenima, 10,000 Days and Fear Inocolum. But I think their interlude songs or too much lenghty atmospheric passages in some songs a bit pretensious and boring.
Marillion also didn't make my top 25, but I do think it's an amazing band! The run from Fugazi to Afraid is really great. I still like a lot of some albums after that, like the excellent Marbles and IMO the underrated This Strange Engine and Marillion.com. I just think they had, in last 20 years or so, too much an atmospheric/jam sound, that I don't like that much, but I think An Hour Before It's Dark was an improvement on that.
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Nothing for me for a while. I do expect 4 (hopefully 5 or 6 but likely not) from my list to be in the top 25. Also a band I should have added but didn't, probably because of how I did my list (most played). Said band has a lot of not so good stuff, but the good stuff is incredible.
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Tool didn't make my top 25, but I love the more prog and energetic side of Tool, so Lateralus is my fave album and I think there's a lot of great music on Aenima, 10,000 Days and Fear Inocolum. But I think their interlude songs or too much lenghty atmospheric passages in some songs a bit pretensious and boring.
Marillion also didn't make my top 25, but I do think it's an amazing band! The run from Fugazi to Afraid is really great. I still like a lot of some albums after that, like the excellent Marbles and IMO the underrated This Strange Engine and Marillion.com. I just think they had, in last 20 years or so, too much an atmospheric/jam sound, that I don't like that much, but I think An Hour Before It's Dark was an improvement on that.
I love Marillion.com! It has some clunkers on it (A Legacy, Built in Bastard Radar), but it also has 3 of my favorite Marillion tracks in Go!, Tumble Down the Years, and House, and then Interior Lulu is a great epic.
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Devin Townsend
NR Tool
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Nightwish
NR Megadeth
NR Mastodon
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
30 Transatlantic (The Whirlwind, Bridge Across Forever, The Absolute Universe)
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I had Sabbath below Marillion, but Sabbath was really one of the cornerstone bands of my musical growth. I got the cheap cassettes of Paranoid, Vol. 4 and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath from Woolworths and listened to them until the tape ran thin. I can basically sing those records from start to finish.
Marillion was the big band of my college years. I got into Misplaced Childhood with "Kayleigh" and never looked back. Clutching... is a top five record all time for me. I love that record, and not long ago I posted that Fish's lyrics on that are probably my favorite lyrics of all time (as an album). I do like the Hogarth years, but it's more dodgy. Fish at his cringiest is angry, and I don't really relate to that but I get it. Hogarth at his cringiest is sanctimonious and I not only don't relate, but I don't get it either. There are songs I don't care for in the Fish years, but there are entire albums I don't care for in the Hogarth years.
Transatlantic... I just couldn't demote someone else. I LOVE the Whirlwind - the Rose Colored Glasses segment reduces me to tears every single time I hear it - and there are moments of brilliance - the Abbey Road/Suite Charlotte Pike medley is a thing of genius, as well as my favorite Mike fill of all time in My New World - but as a whole I couldn't crack the top 25 with them. No. 30.
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Marillion didn't make my list but someone recently suggested Afraid of Sunlight to me in the Marilion thread and i am really in love with that record
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Marillion almost made my list. :tup I would've had them somewhere in the 26th-30th range.
0/8 for the Top 25 so far.
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Marillion didn't make my list but someone recently suggested Afraid of Sunlight to me in the Marilion thread and i am really in love with that record
Pop into the Marilion thread, people, it might change your life!
So here's a favorite track from each Marillion album (not counting Less is More or Friend from the Orchestra):
- Script: Garden Party
- Fugazi: Jigsaw
- Misplaced Childhood: Heart of Lothian
- Clutching at Straws: Sugar Mice (or That Time of the Night, but really that whole opening trilogy)
- Seasons End: Easter (or King of Sunset Town)
- Holidays in Eden: Dry Land
- Brave: The Great Escape
- Afraid of Sunlight: Gazpacho (or Afraid of Sunlight or Beyond You)
- This Strange Engine: Man of a Thousand Faces
- Radiation: Born to Run
- Marillion.com: Go! (or House)
- Anaraknophobia: The Fruit of the Wild Rose
- Marbles: Fantastic Place
- Somewhere Else: The Other Half
- Happiness is the Road: This Train is My Life
- Sounds That Can't Be Made: Sounds That Can't Be Made (or Montreal)
- F.E.A.R: White Paper
- An Hour Before It's Dark: The Crow and the Nightingale (or Care)
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Marillion did not make my list. Mostly because their catalog is just WAY too inconsistent. When they are on, they are really on. But I honestly can’t figure out how they’ve gotten as big as they are with as spotty as they are. Script and Fugazi are just ok. But Misplaced Childhood and Clutching at Straws are amazing. Season’s End and Brave are also very good. I like some tracks from This Strange Engine. I LOVE Anaraknophobia and Marbles. But almost all the rest of the Hogarth stuff just doesn’t do it for me at all.
They are probably the band that I would have to say that owning 13 albums (along with 4 boxed sets) makes me appear to be a much bigger fan than I actually am. :-\
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I enjoy some songs from the Fish era, but whenever I try some Hogarth era stuff it kinda leaves me cold. I quite like Easter though. I can see them being a band I could like, but they just don't click with me.
Edit: Pretty much the same sentiment as Kev posted above.
I should mention as well that seeing Easter on 5 Years in a LiveTime sure helped as well. I thought that song was fantastic (and still think it is), so my many attempts to get into Marillion felt like an unending search for songs as good as that one. Sadly, most of them fell way, way short (for me).
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As a non fan of Marillion, or maybe a super super casual fan, I would pick Estonia from This Strange Engine. Very beautiful song.
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Oooh!!!! I'll bite:
- Script: Script For A Jester's Tear
- Fugazi: Incubus (though Jigsaw is a great selection)
- Misplaced Childhood: Heart of Lothian
- Clutching at Straws: Warm Wet Circles, but really, the opening trilogy; the lyrics in that are sublime.
- Seasons End: The King of Sunset Town
- Holidays in Eden: None. I kid. Waiting To Happen
- Brave: Alone Again In The Lap Of Luxury (though The Great Escape is a great selection)
- Afraid of Sunlight: Afraid of Sunlight (though as a piece of art, Cannibal Surf Babe has really grown on me over the years)
- This Strange Engine: Estonia
- Radiation: Under The Sun
- Marillion.com: Go!
- Anaraknophobia: Separated Out
- Marbles: Neverland (yes, it's the obvious pick but it's that good; I cried when I saw it live)
- Somewhere Else: The Wound
- Happiness is the Road: This Train is My Life (Sure, why not? I couldn't sing you one song from either record)
- Sounds That Can't Be Made: Montreal
- F.E.A.R: The Leavers
- An Hour Before It's Dark: The Crow and the Nightingale (or Sierra Leone)
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I tried a couple of times to delve into Marillion, and I just couldn't get into them. Of course, the most recent time I tried was about 10 years ago, so maybe I'll give them another shot.
But for now, anyway, they would never make my list.
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Oooh!!!! I'll bite:
- Script: Script For A Jester's Tear
- Fugazi: Incubus (though Jigsaw is a great selection)
- Misplaced Childhood: Heart of Lothian
- Clutching at Straws: Warm Wet Circles, but really, the opening trilogy; the lyrics in that are sublime.
- Seasons End: The King of Sunset Town
- Holidays in Eden: None. I kid. Waiting To Happen
- Brave: Alone Again In The Lap Of Luxury (though The Great Escape is a great selection)
- Afraid of Sunlight: Afraid of Sunlight (though as a piece of art, Cannibal Surf Babe has really grown on me over the years)
- This Strange Engine: Estonia
- Radiation: Under The Sun
- Marillion.com: Go!
- Anaraknophobia: Separated Out
- Marbles: Neverland (yes, it's the obvious pick but it's that good; I cried when I saw it live)
- Somewhere Else: The Wound
- Happiness is the Road: This Train is My Life (Sure, why not? I couldn't sing you one song from either record)
- Sounds That Can't Be Made: Montreal
- F.E.A.R: The Leavers
- An Hour Before It's Dark: The Crow and the Nightingale (or Sierra Leone)
I can dig it!
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I didn't participate, but Marillion would have been #2 on my list.
Just because others are doing this, I'll add my list of go-to tracks/epics/suites from each album
Script: Script For A Jester's Tear
Fugazi: Fugazi
Misplaced Childhood: Childhood's End?
Clutching at Straws: HH/WWC/ATTOTN
Seasons End: Berlin
Holidays in Eden: This Town/The Rakes Progress/100 Nights
Brave: The Great Escape
Afraid of Sunlight: Afraid of Sunlight
This Strange Engine: This Strange Engine
Radiation: A Few Words for the Dead
Marillion.com: Interior Lulu
Anaraknophobia: Quartz
Marbles: The Invisible Man
Somewhere Else: Somewhere Else
Happiness is the Road: Half-Full Jam
Sounds That Can't Be Made: Montreal
F.E.A.R: The Leavers
An Hour Before It's Dark: Sierra Leone
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I didn't participate, but Marillion would have been #2 on my list.
Just because others are doing this, I'll add my list of go-to tracks/epics/suites from each album
Script: Script For A Jester's Tear
Fugazi: Fugazi
Misplaced Childhood: Childhood's End?
Clutching at Straws: HH/WWC/ATTOTN
Seasons End: Berlin
Holidays in Eden: This Town/The Rakes Progress/100 Nights
Brave: The Great Escape
Afraid of Sunlight: Afraid of Sunlight
This Strange Engine: This Strange Engine
Radiation: A Few Words for the Dead
Marillion.com: Interior Lulu
Anaraknophobia: Quartz
Marbles: The Invisible Man
Somewhere Else: Somewhere Else
Happiness is the Road: Half-Full Jam
Sounds That Can't Be Made: Montreal
F.E.A.R: The Leavers
An Hour Before It's Dark: Sierra Leone
Looks like we were missing a few Marillion enthusiasts in the voting. But alas!
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Starting the Top 20
20. Black Sabbath
Hot damn! I actually ranked these guys! #19 for me. I mostly checked out after Dio, but there's some good stuff after him, and the three Dio albums and most of the Ozzy albums have some amazing stuff. Add in the historical context, and it's a recipe for a winner.
19. Transatlantic
I've heard of this band but otherwise know nothing.
18. Marillion
After omitting them from a couple of my "favorite album of [year]" lists, I've listened to a few songs. Some decent stuff. I'll listen to a bit more.
1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. I'll be very sad if they don't make the list. I'm guessing if they aren't one of the next few picks we won't see them.
4. LOCK
5. LOCK
6. Slightly better than 50/50
7. Probably (75%+)
8. At this point, I think there's no chance.
9. See #8
10. No way, eh?
11. Probably 90%+
12. LOCK
13. Helloween (38)
14. UFO (42)
15. I think they're probably a lock, but 17 or higher seems surprising to me
16. LOCK
17. At this point, I'm going to say no better than a 20% chance - surprisingly underrated around here
18. See #17
19. Black Sabbath (20)
20. Not a chance
21. I'm probably the only one to submit this artist
22. See #17
23. Probably?
24. Scorpions (46T)
25. See #17
Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeath, Riverside, KISS, Ayreon, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Pain of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed & Cambria, Mastodon, Queen, Tool, Transatlantic, Marillion
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I've heard a couple Marillion albums and like a few songs, but they're also in my blind spot, and what I've heard so far hasn't really bowled me over. A few of my favorite musicians are big fans of them though, so I really need to more properly try and get into them at some point.
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I've been listening to Marillion for 25 years, I was part of the Marble "campaign" to finance the album, I've seen them 7 or 8 times since the Anorak tour, but it took me until this year to finally LISTEN to Clutching At Straws. It blew my mind, one of the most perfect album I've ever listened to.
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I own Script, Fugazi, MC, and CaS. Have Brave saved on Spotify. Script did nothing for me; the following three are all extremely enjoyable whenever I listen to them, as is Brave (but I just haven't gone back to that one much. Sadly, they didn't wow me enough when I first went to get in to them (courtesy of DTF - probably RJ). And when there's 15+ albums to get familiar with, it becomes a daunting task, and not something I felt compelled I had to do.
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19. Transatlantic
I've heard of this band but otherwise know nothing.
This is a bit of a shock. The Portnoy supergroup with Neal from Spock’s Beard, Pete from Marillion and Roine from the Flower Kings?
Ok…I’ll give you that the 4th guy is a bit more obscure. But you seriously didn’t know anything about them?
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With 17 more to come, I'm quite confident I know 11 of them (with 7 on my list, and 5 not). There's one more that, given the bands already mentioned, I'd like to think this act would finish ahead of some of them, but I'm not 100% certain. I'm drawing blanks as to the remaining 6.
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I own Script, Fugazi, MC, and CaS. Have Brave saved on Spotify. Script did nothing for me; the following three are all extremely enjoyable whenever I listen to them, as is Brave (but I just haven't gone back to that one much. Sadly, they didn't wow me enough when I first went to get in to them (courtesy of DTF - probably RJ). And when there's 15+ albums to get familiar with, it becomes a daunting task, and not something I felt compelled I had to do.
I’ll narrow it for you. Listen to Afraid of Sunlight and Marbles. That’s only about 2.5 hours of music, but it will be well worth your time.
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19. Transatlantic
I've heard of this band but otherwise know nothing.
This is a bit of a shock. The Portnoy supergroup with Neal from Spock’s Beard, Pete from Marillion and Roine from the Flower Kings?
Ok…I’ll give you that the 4th guy is a bit more obscure. But you seriously didn’t know anything about them?
MP's got about 10,000 "super groups." Hard to keep track of all of them. My "I've heard of this band but otherwise know nothing" comment also applies to Neal Morse and Spock's Beard (although I started listening to a Spock's Beard song last week that sounded promising). And I don't think I've ever heard of Roine or the Flower Kings.
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that's interesting considering that Jim Matheos orignally was slated to be a member of for what became Transatlantic (under the possible name "Second Nature").
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I admittedly know very little of transatlantic but I think I would've been more interested if Jim Matheos was on the bill. Was Jim supposed to be an additional member or did Ronnie occupy that spot?
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Catching up on the last two...
Transatlantic: NR. Given the people involved, I thought I would enjoy this band more...heck, love it, really...and yet.
When I bought SMPT:e as it was released, expectations were high. I was definitely hungry for more MP drumming (and at the time it wasn't quite as common outside of DT, of course), and then Neal Morse, Pete Trewavas - we'll get to Marillion in a sec ;) (I sort of enjoyed Flower Kings, but never loved them, so Stolt wasn't as much of a pull for me, but I will still excited about what he'd bring to the table)...in the end, I found the album to be very high quality, but not one that stole my heart. And the story was similar with Bridge...and the rest. So, yeah, I totally get the love from the fans, but I never really connected.
Marillion, on the other hand...first top 10 for me! Love this band - even though I lost track of their last few releases. No matter, though, as the wealth of amazing records they put out earns them their place in my top bands. It's kind of interesting, as they never really screamed "they are one of my very favorites!", but they've been a constant presence for many years...and when I think about it, there's so much I enjoy in their music, they just needed to be part of that conversation. I also don't have particularly strong feelings on the Fish vs. the H. era, since there's so much to like in both. I believe the first Marillion record I've heard is their full length debut, Script for a Jester's Tear. Not in real time, of course, but I was reading some special feature of the classics of prog rock/metal around the early 90s, and that one was mentioned as seminal in the re-launching of the prog scene in the 80s. I can't say I was blown away - loved the title track (especially Rothery's guitar) but the whole thing felt a bit clunky. It's still not among my favorites, but my appreciation for it has grown a lot over the years (I even just got the deluxe edition ;)). Similar story with Fugazi. But when it comes to Misplaced Childhood and Clutching at Straws...those are such incredible records. Clutching has a slight edge, and might well be my #1 Marillion. Enter Steve Hogarth and Seasons End...definitely in the discussion for a top three. Always been fond of Holidays in Eden. Perhaps because I didn't witness it in real time, I found the poppish direction kinda refreshing. Brave is another top Marillion album for sure, as is Afraid of Sunlight.
Then, well, things get a bit shaky. I have expressed my thoughts on the post-AoS albums in a couple of occasions already. I actually don't mind This Strange Engine (a few great songs in there), but then it becomes more of a blur. Even the almost universally praised Marbles, while my favorite of that bunch, is not one I go nuts for. I will admit I spent very little time with F.E.A.R and An Hour...I should probably revisit, as I feel I "owe" it to them, given how much I like the band.
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I admittedly know very little of transatlantic but I think I would've been more interested if Jim Matheos was on the bill. Was Jim supposed to be an additional member or did Ronnie occupy that spot?
IIRC, the original plan was for Mike and Jim to work together with Neal on a new project, but when Jim was busy with other stuff, Neal and Mike had to find another guitarist, so they got Roine, and then Pete fell into place, and the rest of was history. Of course, Mike and Jim would later go on to work together in 2002 in OSI, but then the project morphed into what it became with the 2003 debut once Kevin Moore joined the project. I love listening to "The Thing That Never Was" as a glimpse into what the original intent for the project was by Jim and Mike.
-Marc.
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It would be pretty wild to hear a project with Jim Matheos and Neal Morse together. Those two seem to have almost nothing in common musically, though I suppose neither did Neal and MP before Transatlantic. Still though, I’m glad they ended up with Roine instead.
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Catching up on the last two...
Transatlantic: NR. Given the people involved, I thought I would enjoy this band more...heck, love it, really...and yet.
When I bought SMPT:e as it was released, expectations were high. I was definitely hungry for more MP drumming (and at the time it wasn't quite as common outside of DT, of course), and then Neal Morse, Pete Trewavas - we'll get to Marillion in a sec ;) (I sort of enjoyed Flower Kings, but never loved them, so Stolt wasn't as much of a pull for me, but I will still excited about what he'd bring to the table)...in the end, I found the album to be very high quality, but not one that stole my heart. And the story was similar with Bridge...and the rest. So, yeah, I totally get the love from the fans, but I never really connected.
Marillion, on the other hand...first top 10 for me! Love this band - even though I lost track of their last few releases. No matter, though, as the wealth of amazing records they put out earns them their place in my top bands. It's kind of interesting, as they never really screamed "they are one of my very favorites!", but they've been a constant presence for many years...and when I think about it, there's so much I enjoy in their music, they just needed to be part of that conversation. I also don't have particularly strong feelings on the Fish vs. the H. era, since there's so much to like in both. I believe the first Marillion record I've heard is their full length debut, Script for a Jester's Tear. Not in real time, of course, but I was reading some special feature of the classics of prog rock/metal around the early 90s, and that one was mentioned as seminal in the re-launching of the prog scene in the 80s. I can't say I was blown away - loved the title track (especially Rothery's guitar) but the whole thing felt a bit clunky. It's still not among my favorites, but my appreciation for it has grown a lot over the years (I even just got the deluxe edition ;)). Similar story with Fugazi. But when it comes to Misplaced Childhood and Clutching at Straws...those are such incredible records. Clutching has a slight edge, and might well be my #1 Marillion. Enter Steve Hogarth and Seasons End...definitely in the discussion for a top three. Always been fond of Holidays in Eden. Perhaps because I didn't witness it in real time, I found the poppish direction kinda refreshing. Brave is another top Marillion album for sure, as is Afraid of Sunlight.
Then, well, things get a bit shaky. I have expressed my thoughts on the post-AoS albums in a couple of occasions already. I actually don't mind This Strange Engine (a few great songs in there), but then it becomes more of a blur. Even the almost universally praised Marbles, while my favorite of that bunch, is not one I go nuts for. I will admit I spent very little time with F.E.A.R and An Hour...I should probably revisit, as I feel I "owe" it to them, given how much I like the band.
...but Marbles... :( It's the greatest album of all time!
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Catching up on the last two...
Transatlantic: NR. Given the people involved, I thought I would enjoy this band more...heck, love it, really...and yet.
When I bought SMPT:e as it was released, expectations were high. I was definitely hungry for more MP drumming (and at the time it wasn't quite as common outside of DT, of course), and then Neal Morse, Pete Trewavas - we'll get to Marillion in a sec ;) (I sort of enjoyed Flower Kings, but never loved them, so Stolt wasn't as much of a pull for me, but I will still excited about what he'd bring to the table)...in the end, I found the album to be very high quality, but not one that stole my heart. And the story was similar with Bridge...and the rest. So, yeah, I totally get the love from the fans, but I never really connected.
Marillion, on the other hand...first top 10 for me! Love this band - even though I lost track of their last few releases. No matter, though, as the wealth of amazing records they put out earns them their place in my top bands. It's kind of interesting, as they never really screamed "they are one of my very favorites!", but they've been a constant presence for many years...and when I think about it, there's so much I enjoy in their music, they just needed to be part of that conversation. I also don't have particularly strong feelings on the Fish vs. the H. era, since there's so much to like in both. I believe the first Marillion record I've heard is their full length debut, Script for a Jester's Tear. Not in real time, of course, but I was reading some special feature of the classics of prog rock/metal around the early 90s, and that one was mentioned as seminal in the re-launching of the prog scene in the 80s. I can't say I was blown away - loved the title track (especially Rothery's guitar) but the whole thing felt a bit clunky. It's still not among my favorites, but my appreciation for it has grown a lot over the years (I even just got the deluxe edition ;)). Similar story with Fugazi. But when it comes to Misplaced Childhood and Clutching at Straws...those are such incredible records. Clutching has a slight edge, and might well be my #1 Marillion. Enter Steve Hogarth and Seasons End...definitely in the discussion for a top three. Always been fond of Holidays in Eden. Perhaps because I didn't witness it in real time, I found the poppish direction kinda refreshing. Brave is another top Marillion album for sure, as is Afraid of Sunlight.
Then, well, things get a bit shaky. I have expressed my thoughts on the post-AoS albums in a couple of occasions already. I actually don't mind This Strange Engine (a few great songs in there), but then it becomes more of a blur. Even the almost universally praised Marbles, while my favorite of that bunch, is not one I go nuts for. I will admit I spent very little time with F.E.A.R and An Hour...I should probably revisit, as I feel I "owe" it to them, given how much I like the band.
...but Marbles... :( It's the greatest album of all time!
That's high praise, Puppies! Sorry :) Well, I did say it's my favorite of the post AoS records ;) I do like it...I just don't seem to have connected with it the same way others (including you, clearly!) have...
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I have Misplaced and Clutching + about 20 other random Marillion songs I've found that I like on my computer. But I just don't find myself wanting to go back and listen to them anymore. That's crazy jammin, how much of their material you own but they didn't make your list! :lol
1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. LOCK
4. Probably not
5. Nope
6. LOCK
7. LOCK
8. LOCK
9. LOCK
10. Nope
11. Mastodon
12. Spock's Beard
13. Nope
14. Nope
15. Between the Buried and Me
16. Nope
17. Avenged Sevenfold
18. LOCK
19. Nope
20. Tool
21. Coheed & Cambria
22. LOCK
23. Absolutely nope
24. Nope
25. Megadeth
31. Kiss
34. Queen
38. Transatlantic
79. Black Sabbath
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That's crazy jammin, how much of their material you own but they didn't make your list! :lol
I know right? I just get 2 or 3 that I absolutely love. That makes me want to try more, then I get a couple more that aren’t so great and I give up. Then someone shows me another one that I love, so I try another one that flops. And the cycle continues.
I do at least really enjoy all 4 Fish albums, so the added features made those boxed sets an instant buy.
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Since we’re still talking a bit about Marillion, I will make a brief point that my #2 all time band started at the same time, and with a very similar premise as Marillion (the early 80s English “neo-prog” movement to carry the torch that Genesis left behind) but which I feel is a FAR FAR FAR superior band with an infinitely more consistent output, and appears that they will sadly not even make the top 50.
It’s criminal, I tell ya.
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25. Avenged Sevenfold
24. No chance in hell
23. Devin Townsend
22. LOCK
21. Criminally, no
20. Nah
19. LOCK
18. LOCK
17. Nope
16. Nuh-uh
15. Nope
14. Slim chance they'll still make it
13. No chance
12. No chance
11. The Dear Hunter
10. No chance
9. Megadeth
8. Mastodon
7. Not this late in the game
6. LOCK
5. Unfortunately no
4. No chance but at least a few other fans on the forum
3. No one else will have even voted
2. LOCK
1. Coheed and Cambria
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Gee, you really like the band LOCK :neverusethis:
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Prediction: At least one of Coz's 9 "locks" will not make the list.
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Gee, you really like the band LOCK :neverusethis:
Yea, my second favourites are No Chance.
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Since we’re still talking a bit about Marillion, I will make a brief point that my #2 all time band started at the same time, and with a very similar premise as Marillion (the early 80s English “neo-prog” movement to carry the torch that Genesis left behind) but which I feel is a FAR FAR FAR superior band with an infinitely more consistent output, and appears that they will sadly not even make the top 50.
It’s criminal, I tell ya.
I take partial blame for them not making it as they would've been my #1 had I made a list.
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17 Up!
17. Judas Priest
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Highest Finish: 2 (wolfking, Pappy)
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Judas Priest is another one of those bands that is a big miss for me. I've heard about them for ages but never took the time to listen to them.
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Nothing that I’ve heard from Priest suggests they are a band I would like.
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Since we’re still talking a bit about Marillion, I will make a brief point that my #2 all time band started at the same time, and with a very similar premise as Marillion (the early 80s English “neo-prog” movement to carry the torch that Genesis left behind) but which I feel is a FAR FAR FAR superior band with an infinitely more consistent output, and appears that they will sadly not even make the top 50.
It’s criminal, I tell ya.
I take partial blame for them not making it as they would've been my #1 had I made a list.
I had them as well, but not high enough.
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There's one of the bands that I couldn't figure out was still to come, but I should have known better. JP was never really on my radar in their prime, and by the time I'd gotten to the point where I'd really like their music, it was far too late for me to try and explore their entire discography. I've got a best-of compilation package that fellow DTFrs compiled for me, but that's about it (and I don't go to it very often). They passed me by (or I passed by them), and they just stayed in my rearview mirror.
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Marillion is a band I have listened to several albums from, and I actually own Misplaced Childhood on CD. But they just never connected with me. I actually have enjoyed some of Fish's solo material more than either era of Marillion.
Haven't really listened to Judas Priest. There have been a lot of "classic" rock and metal bands on this list that just haven't interested me enough to dive into.
At this point I'd be surprised if I have more than another 4 or 5 bands make the list, but we'll see how it goes. Only two sure-thing locks!
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I have a lot of respect for Priest, but I never really got into them. Painkiller is a beast though.
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Priest is a longtime favorite, but I don't rate them quite as high as I used to. They'd still make my top 25, but it would be near the bottom. That said, if you take their 10-15 best songs, they are on the par with the best 10-15 songs by almost anyone, and they obviously have many other good ones as well.
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Judas Priest is one of the very few metal bands I still listen to from time to time, I had them at #22. I got into them around 2001, so at the time of the Ripper Owens albums and before the return of Halford.
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Still at 6
Judas Priest
Never heard anything by Judas Priest that connected with me.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest
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21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
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18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
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6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
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4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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Great to see a pure and classic heavy metal band almost making it into the top fifteen.
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17 Up!
17. Judas Priest
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Judas Priest is another one of those bands that is a big miss for me. I've heard about them for ages but never took the time to listen to them.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
NR Tool
NR Black Sabbath
NR Judas Priest
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
26 Queen
25 ?
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20 Riverside
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10 Ayreon
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07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
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03 Transatlantic
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01 Big Big Train
Judas Priest is yet another band I've heard of but I couldn't tell you if I've ever heard a single song of theirs unless it's been on my local classic rock radio station, which I only listen to when I'm using a work van.
Part of me won't be surprised if more than half of the top 20 doesn't make my list at this point.
-Marc.
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Not a fan, but Priest definitely belongs on the list.
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Never liked Judas Priest.
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Never liked Judas Priest.
same
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1/9! (and 8/34 overall)
25. Judas Priest
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18. Evergrey
17. Katatonia
16. Riverside
15. Helloween
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12.
11. Pain of Salvation
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7. Nightwish
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1. Ayreon
Priest barely made my list. Love some of the stuff, indifferent to the other, but they are one of the classic bands I grew up with and respect them too much to omit them from the list. And I still listen to them quite often. And they still release quality albums from time to time somehow, Firepower was pretty good.
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Excellent! Priest was #4 for me and judging them by anything you heard on the radio would be like judging DT after only hearing You Not Me. The 70s albums in particular had prog influences, incredible dynamics and songwriting, otherworldly vocals, with speed and aggression ahead of its time.
19. Megadeth
12. Sabbath
8. Symphony X
7. Scorpions
4. Priest
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Priest is great. I’m not a big enough fan to put them on my list though.
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Priest is good. To me, they are not as good as “that other band” from the classic era that we will most likely see soon. But they have some amazing stuff.
Stained Class, Defenders of the Faith, and Painkiller are my favorites. The rest of the albums I’ve heard are a mix of some good stuff and a lot of filler.
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Devin Townsend
NR Tool
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Nightwish
NR Megadeth
NR Mastodon
NR Katatonia
NR Judas Priest
NR Helloween
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
30 Transatlantic (The Whirlwind, Bridge Across Forever, The Absolute Universe)
25 Sadly, not a shot
24 Sadly, not a shot
23 Given
22 Queen (Queen II; Innuendo; A Kind Of Magic)
21 Given
20 Given
19 Probably not; they are a classic, but don't seem to get much love here
18 Sadly, not a shot
17 Sadly, not a shot
16 Given
15 Probably not; it's an offshoot of another band here and it won't likely make the grade
14 Sadly, not a shot
13 Sadly, not a shot
12 Neal Morse. (And yes, I lumped.). (Innocence and Danger; The Grand Experiment; TSOAD)
11 Black Sabbath (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sabotage, Heaven and Hell)
10 Sadly, not a shot
9 Given
8 Probably not; his more popular (here) incarnation already appeared
7 Given
6 Marillion (Clutching At Straws, Misplaced Childhood, Brave)
5 Given
4 Given
3. Kiss (Rock And Roll Over; Creatures Of The Night; Hotter Than Hell)
2 Given
1 Given
Priest was my first concert ever (Maiden opening). There are a couple albums that are just GOLD. In hindsight, I think Priest is a miss on my list. I should have had them around 42, 43, but alas they are not rated.
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I’m fond of Priest. And it is just ‘Priest!’ like the abbreviation is all that is needed. But they’re not top 25.
I think if I was focusing on rock/metal they definitely would be, but I had a handful of other styles in my top 25.
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You could call them JP, but on this forum that's confusing. :)
But they were one of the traditional metal bands I latched onto most earlier on. There was probably a period of a few months where they were functionally my favorite band. That's cooled way off by this point and they're well outside my list now, probably underrated lately because I just haven't spent that much time with them in recent years. They're still superb though with Halford's killer vocals, Tipton's soloing, and so many iconic songs over the years.
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The only one of the last 10 I had was Transatlantic. But none of those surprised me, and if I had taken the time to predict the forum's top 25, I probably would have predicted most or all of those.
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Judas Priest came in at number 2 for me. I think that says it all.
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I don't think I would have guessed Judas Priest would have made this list in 1000 guesses, but that also shows that I don't know what everyone really likes.
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I don't think I would have guessed Judas Priest would have made this list in 1000 guesses, but that also shows that I don't know what everyone really likes.
Well when the countdown began with Miles Davis and Symphony X, I threw all my expectations out the window. :lol
-Marc.
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I don't think I would have guessed Judas Priest would have made this list in 1000 guesses, but that also shows that I don't know what everyone really likes.
Well when the countdown began with Miles Davis and Symphony X, I threw all my expectations out the window. :lol
-Marc.
:lol
This is good point, and honestly exactly what I was hoping for.
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I don't think I would have guessed Judas Priest would have made this list in 1000 guesses, but that also shows that I don't know what everyone really likes.
So Judas Priest came in at 1001 on your list?
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WTF how did you know??
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:lol I have special powers.
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I don't think I would have guessed Judas Priest would have made this list in 1000 guesses, but that also shows that I don't know what everyone really likes.
Well when the countdown began with Miles Davis and Symphony X, I threw all my expectations out the window. :lol
-Marc.
Well, Symphony X at least is a fairly similar band to DT.
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I don't think Priest being on the list should be surprising. Halford was 11th on the favorite vocalist list, and I believe one or maybe two of their guitarists were on the guitar list. Plus they are one of the big original metal bands.
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I don't think Priest being on the list should be surprising. Halford was 11th on the favorite vocalist list, and I believe one or maybe two of their guitarists were on the guitar list. Plus they are one of the big original metal bands.
And there are a crap-ton of fogeys here.
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Am I missing something or has 90% of the responses for Judas Priest saying they aren't a fan. Mind boggling.
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Am I missing something or has 90% of the responses for Judas Priest saying they aren't a fan. Mind boggling.
Well, they only appeared on 10 of 46 lists, but that's still lower than 90% (and some of those who didn't list them might consider themselves fans)!
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Prediction: At least one of Coz's 9 "locks" will not make the list.
Has someone been looking at my list? :D After double checking it, yep, I stand by my nine locks!
No Priest for me though. Some of their stuff I've liked. Some not. And probably most I haven't cared enough to hear.
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Granted there's quite a bit of naff throughout Priest were/are rather great regardless (as were Halford and Two I might add) and the real early first few Priest albums were as essential to early metal as any IMO.
Much of their 80's output essential to my own collection too and big shout out for my personal fave Defenders Of The Faith.
I had Priest at #20 :metal
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16 Up!
16. Opeth
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Highest Finish: 2 (LithoJazzoSphere)
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Opeth just missed my list. For the longest time the only album I liked was Damnation but over time I really came to love earlier, growlier period. I can't really get into the last couple albums though.
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An expected choice, but a good one. I thought they might end up a bit higher, though.
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23. Opeth
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14. Godspeed you! Black Emperor
13. Anathema
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01. Radiohead
Going to pre-empt what probably a lot of people are going to say: their early albums are great and am less interested in what they've been doing for the last few.
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An expected choice, but a good one. I thought they might end up a bit higher, though.
Same, I was thinking a top 10 finish to be honest. Great, great band who perfectly exhibit how you create extreme progressive music. For me, no band can pull off the contrast of the heavy/light, like Opeth can (or could, should I say), it is just so masterfully executed.
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Prediction: At least one of Coz's 9 "locks" will not make the list.
Has someone been looking at my list? :D After double checking it, yep, I stand by my nine locks!
No Priest for me though. Some of their stuff I've liked. Some not. And probably most I haven't cared enough to hear.
No list reading, I just know that the DTF community never ceases to amaze.
Opeth... I've given them plenty of chances, but I just can't connect with them. I knew they'd be coming.
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16 Up!
16. Opeth
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Opeth just missed my list. For the longest time the only album I liked was Damnation but over time I really came to love earlier, growlier period. I can't really get into the last couple albums though.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
NR Tool
NR Black Sabbath
NR Judas Priest
NR Opeth
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
26 Queen
25 ?
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20 Riverside
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10 Ayreon
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07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
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03 Transatlantic
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01 Big Big Train
Opeth is another band I would probably love, on paper, but I've just never been able to give them their proper due. I've enjoyed what I've heard and I even own most of their albums but for some reason I've just never stuck it out with them. One of these days perhaps...
-Marc.
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Opeth would have made my list, probably in the 21-25 range. I have to be in the right mood for the growls, but their run from Still Life through Watershed was pretty stellar, and Pale Communion is a major standout from the later years. Damnation is their album I listen to the most nowadays by a pretty wide margin.
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Prediction: At least one of Coz's 9 "locks" will not make the list.
Has someone been looking at my list? :D After double checking it, yep, I stand by my nine locks!
No Priest for me though. Some of their stuff I've liked. Some not. And probably most I haven't cared enough to hear.
No list reading, I just know that the DTF community never ceases to amaze.
Opeth... I've given them plenty of chances, but I just can't connect with them. I knew they'd be coming.
I love reading the lists and seeing the "locks" then comparing them to to the actual list :lol
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Nopeth
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I've not been commenting daily, as hardly any of these bands have made my list and I thought it was pointless to just chime in to say that the daily band listed didn't make my list.
Now that we're about to enter the Top 15, I need to catch up..
Judas Priest just missed my list.
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21 Megadeth (32)
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14 Kiss (30)
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5 Helloween (38)
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Prediction: At least one of Coz's 9 "locks" will not make the list.
Has someone been looking at my list? :D After double checking it, yep, I stand by my nine locks!
No Priest for me though. Some of their stuff I've liked. Some not. And probably most I haven't cared enough to hear.
No list reading, I just know that the DTF community never ceases to amaze.
Opeth... I've given them plenty of chances, but I just can't connect with them. I knew they'd be coming.
I love reading the lists and seeing the "locks" then comparing them to to the actual list :lol
Exactly. I aimed low right from the beginning and kept mine at 6 - and even one of those might have an outside chance of getting snubbed due to their lack of quality in the 2nd half of their existence - I doubt it, because their early career is SOOOOO good (and revered here). And even my #1 pick has an outside chance of getting snubbed ... though I doubt it cuz I think there's enough fogeys here to pull them in. Probably soon.
So I guess in reality, I'm only absolutely 100%, bet-my-annual-salary-confident about 4.
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Opeth is a fantastic band. They definitely would have made my list, probably around # 20 or so.
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I'm not sure which I'm more surprised by, them appearing this early (was hoping for a top 10 finish), or me being the highest voter for them. 15 years ago I'm sure they would have placed much higher. Though I guess we did get a hint of this when we did that top 3/3/3 thread and there were scarce if any mentions of them there. This is sort of an argument against the forum being more "metal" than it used to be, although I suppose we'll see who the remaining bands are.
Anyway, Opeth is certainly one of the most important bands in my own musical journey. They were the primary band that wore me down over time and made me realize that harsh vocals were a legitimate type of vocal approach and unlocked the doors to so much other great music that was otherwise inaccessible before. For the longest time I would be amazing by their songwriting, how the heavier sections would contrast with the folkier passages, was endlessly enthralled by this and Mikael's clean vocals, at first just reluctantly tolerating his harsh vocals and then gradually coming to love them as well.
For me their golden era is Blackwater Park (the album I came in on) through Ghost Reveries, though I adore all of their releases in some measure. That includes the last four retro prog albums, which I don't enjoy quite as much as their earlier work, but is still quite excellent. Blackwater Park is still the best place to start with them though, to get a taste of their different sides. In particular, the special edition with "Still Day Beneath the Sun" and "Patterns in the Ivy Pt. II", two acoustic works that don't get nearly enough love, as they're two of the most beautiful pieces of music I know of, and also are fun to play on guitar. Damnation is the place to start if you're still a growl holdout, or maybe In Cauda Venenum if you want the throwback vibe.
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I have Damnation and think it’s really strong (though not my favorite listen either). Have tried a little bit of the newer more proggy Opeth but haven’t been able to get into it. No interest in the growls Opeth.
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I have Damnation and think it’s really strong (though not my favorite listen either). Have tried a little bit of the newer more proggy Opeth but haven’t been able to get into it. No interest in the growls Opeth.
You may or may not have explored this, but even on their extreme metal albums, there is almost always a couple growl-free tracks, enough for another album or two worth of music arguably on the level of Damnation.
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10 years ago Opeth might have made it onto my Top 25, but I barely listen to them nowadays. But when I do it's usually Blackwater Park or Ghost Reveries (their best one). I didn't have any problem with them making the switch to the current style after Watershed (I prefer clean vocals over growling any day), so I enjoy their later albums too.
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Opeth was on my first draft list and then after thinking on it they dropped just out of mine. Incredible band!
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Like others have mentioned, they probably would've made it in for me like 10-15 years ago. While I wasn't a huge fan of Heritage, Pale Communion was pretty solid. They lost me at Sorceress (more like Snore-ceress, amirite? ;)) and I didn't bother with In Cauda Venenum, which I should probably pick up at some point. That run from Blackwater Park to Ghost Reveries is impeccable though.
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I know a lot of people wrote them off as they veered onto their more prog, no growl direction, but I've liked all of their recent albums as well.
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I have Damnation and think it’s really strong (though not my favorite listen either). Have tried a little bit of the newer more proggy Opeth but haven’t been able to get into it. No interest in the growls Opeth.
You may or may not have explored this, but even on their extreme metal albums, there is almost always a couple growl-free tracks, enough for another album or two worth of music arguably on the level of Damnation.
I’ve sampled a few of the early albums and no there are lighter and heavier passages, but I’m not sure which tracks would be totally growl free. Give me the names of a few and I’ll check them out!
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I think like many others on here, Opeth was the first band I discovered where the music was so good that I put up with the harsh vocals and listened to them anyways. Aaaand fast-forward to not long afterwards and I have zero problem with harsh vocals. Opeth will always be a significant band for me because of that. I don't listen to them quite as much as I used to, especially with how much they've mellowed out in recent years, but they have some truly classic albums. Blackwater Park, My Arms Your Hearse, Watershed... I'll even defend Heritage as being a really solid, atmospheric rock album.
Mikael Akerfeldt might actually be my favorite guitarist. His pengame for riffs is just phenomenal. The song Blackwater Park is just a non-stop marathon of him writing one of the best metal riffs ever, only to follow it up with five more best metal riffs ever immediately afterwards. On the other hand, his clean soloing is also amazing. His second solo on Windowpane is some of the most beautiful guitar playing I've ever heard.
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I have Damnation and think it’s really strong (though not my favorite listen either). Have tried a little bit of the newer more proggy Opeth but haven’t been able to get into it. No interest in the growls Opeth.
You may or may not have explored this, but even on their extreme metal albums, there is almost always a couple growl-free tracks, enough for another album or two worth of music arguably on the level of Damnation.
I’ve sampled a few of the early albums and no there are lighter and heavier passages, but I’m not sure which tracks would be totally growl free. Give me the names of a few and I’ll check them out!
I think this is just about everything off the top of my head. I'll add later if I remember something I overlooked. There are also a number of others that only have small sections of them.
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2BZ9ljmPIZz6xB1GvtuJYx (https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2BZ9ljmPIZz6xB1GvtuJYx)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5xA0HAL5N4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5xA0HAL5N4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mO5_6yzcSk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mO5_6yzcSk)
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Anyway, Opeth is certainly one of the most important bands in my own musical journey. They were the primary band that wore me down over time and made me realize that harsh vocals were a legitimate type of vocal approach and unlocked the doors to so much other great music that was otherwise inaccessible before.
I thought Opeth might do the same for me, but it never happened. Not for lack of trying - so many people recommended them that I gave more listens than anything else with harsh vocals. I just don't like his harsh vocals at all and his cleans are pleasant to me, but not all that. I liked what I was hearing music wise, but it just wasn't enough. When I started liking some limited harsh vocals I went back and tried again and still no. I was excited to hear they were doing a tour with no growls but didn't like the show or albums as much as I thought I would. I think I'd like the older albums with less or different harsh vocals.
But I have a soft spot for them because the first time I saw Katatonia it was opening for Opeth
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I'll even defend Heritage as being a really solid, atmospheric rock album.
It's actually my favorite of the last four.
Mikael Akerfeldt might actually be my favorite guitarist. His pengame for riffs is just phenomenal. The song Blackwater Park is just a non-stop marathon of him writing one of the best metal riffs ever, only to follow it up with five more best metal riffs ever immediately afterwards. On the other hand, his clean soloing is also amazing. His second solo on Windowpane is some of the most beautiful guitar playing I've ever heard.
Yeah, I think he was #1 for me when we did the guitarist countdown. He doesn't have nearly the chops of some of the others on my list, but he has an unmatchable feel. His equal comfort with heavy riffs, imaginative if not particularly flashy soloing, mellower electric playing, and acoustic work is rather difficult to beat.
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I'm not sure which I'm more surprised by ... or me being the highest voter for them.
You put them as second my dude :lol
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No surprise there. Wouldn't have made my list.
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I'm not sure which I'm more surprised by ... or me being the highest voter for them.
You put them as second my dude :lol
In the mid-late 00s there would have been multiple people voting them #1 or #2, not just me.
And BTW, this was my avatar on the forum for several years in the mid-00s. (clearly I like this color scheme).
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I like that color scheme too.
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I blame this.
(https://i.giphy.com/media/sULKEgDMX8LcI/giphy.webp)
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I blame this.
(https://i.giphy.com/media/sULKEgDMX8LcI/giphy.webp)
Which spawned my new favourite gif...
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:rollin
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25. Judas Priest
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23.
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20. Opeth
19.
18. Evergrey
17. Katatonia
16. Riverside
15. Helloween
14.
13.
12.
11. Pain of Salvation
10.
9.
8.
7. Nightwish
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1. Ayreon
It took me a long time to warm-up to growls, but Opeth is pretty excellent. Out of non-growly albums, Damnation, Pale Communion are top-notch and Heritage is also very strong. Not surprised they're in Top 25 whatsoever.
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Up to 7
Opeth
Bought Morningrise on a whim because the cover was nice and the sticker said for people who love Dream Theater.
Well I loved the music and the clean singing took me a while to appreciate.
Fast forward a couple of months and I start a new job where a woman called Anna Sandberg was on her last days. We talked about music and I mentioned Opeth.
- Wow, that is my boyfriends band
Next day Mikael came to get Anna and had Orchid and My Arms, your Hearse with him and gave to me.
Unfortunately she left work and I did not get to meet either again.
She was married to Mikael for a long while and he dedicated the excellent Sorceress to her.
I came to truly love Opeth and have seen them live many times.
I love both eras of the band and can't wait for the next album and tout.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest
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24
23
22
21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
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19
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
17
16
15
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
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12
11
10
9
8
7
6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
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4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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Fast forward a couple of months and I start a new job where a woman called Anna Sandberg was on her last days. We talked about music and I mentioned Opeth.
- Wow, that is my boyfriends band
Next day Mikael came to get Anna and had Orchid and My Arms, your Hearse with him and gave to me.
Unfortunately she left work and I did not get to meet either again.
She was married to Mikael for a long while and he dedicated the excellent Sorceress to her.
Now that's a story! :metal
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Anyway, Opeth is certainly one of the most important bands in my own musical journey. They were the primary band that wore me down over time and made me realize that harsh vocals were a legitimate type of vocal approach and unlocked the doors to so much other great music that was otherwise inaccessible before. For the longest time I would be amazing by their songwriting, how the heavier sections would contrast with the folkier passages, was endlessly enthralled by this and Mikael's clean vocals, at first just reluctantly tolerating his harsh vocals and then gradually coming to love them as well.
For me their golden era is Blackwater Park (the album I came in on) through Ghost Reveries, though I adore all of their releases in some measure. That includes the last four retro prog albums, which I don't enjoy quite as much as their earlier work, but is still quite excellent. Blackwater Park is still the best place to start with them though, to get a taste of their different sides. In particular, the special edition with "Still Day Beneath the Sun" and "Patterns in the Ivy Pt. II", two acoustic works that don't get nearly enough love, as they're two of the most beautiful pieces of music I know of, and also are fun to play on guitar. Damnation is the place to start if you're still a growl holdout, or maybe In Cauda Venenum if you want the throwback vibe.
I can agree with all of this, and even though I discovered them slightly later than you, I was already adjusted to harsh vocals so it wasn't such a stretch. I believe Opeth are the only band we both had on our lists right? I had them slightly lower, at 6, but still one of my all time faves.
I discovered them (as I did a few bands so far) with a Kerrang cover CD in 2005 (there is a definite trend here for me) with Ghost of Perdition. To this day, it actually remains my favourite Opeth song, although realistically it's probably a 15 way tie with 14 other songs. Ghost Reveries will always be my favourite Opeth but it is closely followed by Watershed, Blackwater Park and Still Life. That era of Opeth is just life altering.
As I mentioned earlier, it's that ability to transition from heavy as fuck to light and ethereal, and back again that floors me. Mikael seems to make it feel so effortless.
I've not been quiet about the disappointment that I felt in hearing Heritage for the first time, and even though I've come to terms with the album now it will always somewhat tarnish my view. By the time Pale Communion came out I was more receptive to Opeth's modern sound and I've liked each subsequent release a little more than he last. In Cauda Venenum is my favourite post-Watershed and I feel it has quite a unique sound.
NR:
Miles Davis
Symphony X
Agalloch
King Crimson
Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Evergrey
UFO
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Nightwish
Katatonia
Helloween
Between the Buried and Me
Anathema
Radiohead
Big Big Train
Peter Gabriel
Riverside
KISS
Ayreon
Spock's Beard
Neal Morse
Pain of Salvation
Queen
Tool
Black Sabbath
Transatlantic
Marillion
25. Avenged Sevenfold (Favourite Album: City of Evil. Favourite Song: Cosmic)
24.
23. Devin Townsend (Favourite Album: Really hard to pick, but today I'll say Terria. Favourite Song: Kingdom or Deep Peace)
22.
21.
20.
19.
18.
17.
16.
15.
14.
13.
12.
11. The Dear Hunter (Favourite Album: Act IV: Rebirth in Reprise. Favourite Song: Home/A Night on the Town)
10.
9. Megadeth (Favourite Album: Rust in Peace. Favourite Song: Washington is Next!)
8. Mastodon (Favourite Album: Blood Mountain. Favourite Song: Too many to choose, but currently Gigantium)
7.
6. Opeth (Favourite Album: Ghost Reveries. Favourite Song: Ghost of Perdition)
5.
4.
3.
2.
1. Coheed and Cambria (Favourite Album: Good Apollo I’m Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness. Favourite Song: Willing Well Suite)
Oh, one other thing related to this thread. I got to the Neal Morse greatest hits on Spoify, and I wasn't aware he had so many songs based on his religious views. I've gotta be honest, that is somewhat of a turn off for me.
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Opeth...I have tried and I didn't connect with them. Maybe nowadays it would go better.
I do love the song "Harvest". I actually find it to be an incredible song.
I will also say they are an excellent live band. I've seen them a couple of times and they do not disappoint.
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I still only love Damnation, and haven't really connected with their harsher stuff. And their later output doesn't attract me either.
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25
24
23
22 Symphony X
21 Transatlantic
20
19 Megadeth
18
17
16
15
14
13
12
11
10
9 Marillion
8
7
6
5
4
3
2 Avenged Sevenfold
1
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I still only love Damnation, and haven't really connected with their harsher stuff. And their later output doesn't attract me either.
I follow this in a lot of ways, and often times don't follow why so many people who prefer the Heritage-present albums also enjoy Damnation. Sure, all clean vocals of course, but I just find the songwriting is way better on Damnation than any of the other all-clean vocal records.
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I've enjoyed everything that Opeth has put out since Still Life. Some more than others and they have moved down the ladder in recent years. Mikael, Mendez and company just seem like a good bunch of guys to be around.
1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. LOCK
4. Probably not
5. Nope
6. LOCK
7. LOCK
8. LOCK
9. LOCK
10. Nope
11. Mastodon
12. Spock's Beard
13. Nope
14. Nope
15. Between the Buried and Me
16. Nope
17. Avenged Sevenfold
18. Opeth
19. Nope
20. Tool
21. Coheed & Cambria
22. LOCK
23. Absolutely nope
24. Nope
25. Megadeth
31. Kiss
34. Queen
38. Transatlantic
79. Black Sabbath
LOCK prediction count: 1/9
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Just missed out on another tie!
15. Yes
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The only thing I'm familiar with Yes is Big Generator which I enjoy, especially "Shoot High Aim Low". Maybe someday I'll check the rest of their stuff out.
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Here's another one that I thought would be in the top ten. I'm wondering which ones will be ranked higher than Yes, I could name about ten bands and then have four empty spots. Either I'm blanking out, or I'm in for a surprise.
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I didn't rank Yes as I have never really connected with them. They were however one of my Dad's favourite bands and if he were alive today he'd love knowing that they were being voted 15th best band by a bunch of nerds young enough to be his kids/grandkids.
When my Dad passed I inherited all his vinyl and I have the whole run from the self titled to Tormato. One of my most cherished possessions is a copy of Tales from Topographic Oceans that has 'Happy 21st Birthday POD' written inside the gatefold. POD was my Dad's nickname and it's so weird, as his 40 year old son, to hold a record he received as a gift almost 50 years ago to the day (he would've been turning 71 on the 12th December). I guess I need to spin that for him today, along with the other Yes records.
I do enjoy them to a degree, especially those classic albums, but they would never make a top 25 for me personally.
NR:
Miles Davis
Symphony X
Agalloch
King Crimson
Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Evergrey
UFO
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Nightwish
Katatonia
Helloween
Between the Buried and Me
Anathema
Radiohead
Big Big Train
Peter Gabriel
Riverside
KISS
Ayreon
Spock's Beard
Neal Morse
Pain of Salvation
Queen
Tool
Black Sabbath
Transatlantic
Marillion
Yes
25. Avenged Sevenfold (Favourite Album: City of Evil. Favourite Song: Cosmic)
24.
23. Devin Townsend (Favourite Album: Really hard to pick, but today I'll say Terria. Favourite Song: Kingdom or Deep Peace)
22.
21.
20.
19.
18.
17.
16.
15.
14.
13.
12.
11. The Dear Hunter (Favourite Album: Act IV: Rebirth in Reprise. Favourite Song: Home/A Night on the Town)
10.
9. Megadeth (Favourite Album: Rust in Peace. Favourite Song: Washington is Next!)
8. Mastodon (Favourite Album: Blood Mountain. Favourite Song: Too many to choose, but currently Gigantium)
7.
6. Opeth (Favourite Album: Ghost Reveries. Favourite Song: )
5.
4.
3.
2.
1. Coheed and Cambria (Favourite Album: Good Apollo I’m Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness. Favourite Song: Willing Well Suite)
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I had Yes at #21, I'm not familiar with all their stuff so they're not higher than that for me. I focus mainly on their 1970-1973 period plus the 'Drama' album from 1980. Never been a fan of their 80s stuff and Owner Of A Lonely Heart.
I had a period a few months ago where I tried to get into the Topographic Oceans and Relayer albums - man, they are dense and hard to get into. That said, Close To The Edge is a truly marvellous album.
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Up to 8
Yes
I was watching swedish television back in the day when they aired a new video called Owner of a Lonely Heart. Wow..... love it. Bought the 90125 album shortly after and really loved it. Especially Changes.
Went back in time to their back catalogue and bought the releases after as well.
Love most of it up to and including Magnification after that it becomes a bit more spotty.
Unfortunately I never got to see them live and these days I have no desire to.
But those albums and those live releases..... top notch
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest
25
24
23
22
21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
20
19
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
17
16
15 Yes (Favorite album: Close to the Edge, favorite song:Roundabout)
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
13
12
11
10
9
8
7
6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
5
4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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25. Between the Buried and Me
20. Avenged Sevenfold
17. Spocks Beard
15. Opeth
14. Ayreon
12. Marillion
9. The Dear Hunter
8. Big Big Train
6. Pain of Salvation
4. Neal Morse
3. Transatlantic
I had Opeth at #15 and like many others I credit them with getting me to enjoy harsh vocals. The Drapery Falls was the first song I heard and the one that won me over. Brilliant band with brilliant riffs and never a boring chord. Also Mikael has a beautiful voice, clean as well as harsh.
Yes is a band that I have a lot of respect for and occasionally enjoy. Close to the Edge is the album that I go back to when I need a Yes fix. Never connected with them enough to list them explore much further or list them.
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Yes would've been a strong #4.... I can definitively say my love of music started with Yes-Roundabout at age 7
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Yes was a top 10 band for me for a long time, even borderline top 5 for a while there in the 90s, but they'd probably finish just outside of my top 10 now. I still love them just as much, but I simply don't listen to them as much as I used to, making them a bit of a "retired favorite" (despite the current incarnation still trudging forth).
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I didn't have them on my bingo card, but I knew they'd be on the DTF card. Zydar nailed it to say Tales is "dense". RJ tried to get me hooked on that years ago (given my love of concept albums), but after a few tries, it just didn't stick. I've got a few albums, but nothing post 90125. The good stuff is god-tier, but I'm just not deep enough into them to put them in my Top 25.
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Yes did not make my top 25, but they would have made my top 50 (probably top 40 at least). Lots and lots of great music, but also some that I don’t have much interest in listening to (I only own about half of their albums). I don’t always connect with their music, but when they are on they are amazing. And Chris Squire is just a monster, so he’s always a joy to listen to. Close to the Edge, Fragile, and Relayer are excellent, and then 90125 is a pop-prog masterpiece. I have several other albums and enjoy other bits and pieces here and there, but those 4 are the essential albums for me.
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I didn't have them on my bingo card, but I knew they'd be on the DTF card. Zydar nailed it to say Tales is "dense". RJ tried to get me hooked on that years ago (given my love of concept albums), but after a few tries, it just didn't stick. I've got a few albums, but nothing post 90125. The good stuff is god-tier, but I'm just not deep enough into them to put them in my Top 25.
Tales is not an album anyone should try and listen to unless they are already a big Yes fan, IMO.
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Yeah, Tales is definitely advanced Yes music... The black diamond of Yes so to speak.
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25
24
23
22 Symphony X
21 Transatlantic
20
19 Megadeth
18
17
16
15
14
13 YES
12
11
10
9 Marillion
8
7
6
5
4
3
2 Avenged Sevenfold
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It's only really The Ancient that I find a chore on Tales (wasn't that the part of the show where Wakeman would step out for a pint or something?). The first and last tracks are perfectly accessible (by 70s prog standards I mean) and The Remembering is a nice - if overlong - meditative piece.
Neither Opeth nor Yes made my list but both were very close.
Opeth - favourite album Still Life, favourite song Wreath.
Yes - favourite album Relayer, favourite song Awaken.
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Not on my list.
I like Fragile, Close to the Edge, Relayer, Drama, 90125, Talk and not much else.
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Yes would have easily made my list, possibly as high as Top 10, almost definitely Top 15.
Oh, one other thing related to this thread. I got to the Neal Morse greatest hits on Spoify, and I wasn't aware he had so many songs based on his religious views. I've gotta be honest, that is somewhat of a turn off for me.
Gotta be honest, that made me spit coffee all over my desk.
This is Neal's modus operandi, his defining characteristic. His religious views are the entire reason for his solo career. He has even worked his religious views into outside projects, like Transatlantic and Flying Colors. Hell, I would argue that even before he actually left Spock's Beard, it was happening. Wind at my Back is one of the most beautiful worship songs I've ever heard.
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I didn't even know there was a Neal Morse Greatest Hits, or that he's on streaming services other than his own thing. Go figure.
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Yes is another one that just barely missed my list. they were like literally 26 lol
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Just missed out on another tie!
15. Yes
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The only thing I'm familiar with Yes is Big Generator which I enjoy, especially "Shoot High Aim Low". Maybe someday I'll check the rest of their stuff out.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
NR Tool
NR Black Sabbath
NR Judas Priest
NR Opeth
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
26 Queen
25 ?
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20 Riverside
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13 Yes
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10 Ayreon
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07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
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03 Transatlantic
02
01 Big Big Train
I had Yes at 13, so not that far off from the countdown. Back when my prog discovery journey began nearly twenty years ago, Yes was one of the first classic 70s prog bands I got into and has been one that has stuck it out all these years later. I love most of what they have done as a band, especially their first ten albums, and probably 2/3rds of evertlything since then. Not a bad track record honestly, and I still occasionally put them on.
-Marc.
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Opeth did not make my list, but I appreciate what they brought to the table. I just can't with the growls, and I haven't given enough time to the post-growly albums to get into them. I do have Damnation on CD, and it's great.
Yes ranked #13 for me. The run from The Yes Album to Relayer is essential to the prog canon. Absolute genre-defining stuff. Drama and 90125 are great too, and there's some spotty good stuff beyond there as well.
On the downside, I saw Yes on the 2017 and 2019 cruises, and I was ... not impressed with their performance. With all the membership changes, some of my friends and I refer to the current version of the band as No.
I do love TFTO and I can listen to the whole thing straight through. Favorite Yes song is probably "The Gates of Delirium".
An update on my list...
25. (no chance)
24. (no chance)
23. (LOCK)
22. (no chance)
21. (not likely)
20. (no chance)
19. Peter Gabriel
18. (no chance)
17. (no chance)
16. (no chance)
15. (not likely)
14. (probably in)
13. Yes
12. (no chance)
11. (probably in)
10. (not likely)
9. (not likely)
8. (not likely)
7. (probably in)
6. (probably in)
5. (LOCK)
4. Spock's Beard
3. Transatlantic
2. (LOCK)
1. (not likely)
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It's only really The Ancient that I find a chore on Tales (wasn't that the part of the show where Wakeman would step out for a pint or something?). The first and last tracks are perfectly accessible (by 70s prog standards I mean) and The Remembering is a nice - if overlong - meditative piece.
I agree with all this. Sides 1 and 4 are fantastic. Side 2 doesn't have a satisfying payoff, but still has a lot of nice music. Side 3 is a mess, but has some great moments.
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Yeah, no Yes on my list. Not surprised they made it, but my list is light on classic prog rock in general as I discovered DT and this forum mostly through the metal side.
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I didn't even know there was a Neal Morse Greatest Hits, or that he's on streaming services other than his own thing. Go figure.
I didn't realize he had a greatest hit, much less enough of them to make a full album...
:neverusethis:
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Oh, one other thing related to this thread. I got to the Neal Morse greatest hits on Spoify, and I wasn't aware he had so many songs based on his religious views. I've gotta be honest, that is somewhat of a turn off for me.
Gotta be honest, that made me spit coffee all over my desk.
This is Neal's modus operandi, his defining characteristic. His religious views are the entire reason for his solo career. He has even worked his religious views into outside projects, like Transatlantic and Flying Colors. Hell, I would argue that even before he actually left Spock's Beard, it was happening. Wind at my Back is one of the most beautiful worship songs I've ever heard.
:lol
This shows my complete ignorance of Neal Morse and all that he is about. I'm not a fan of any of his bands, and only really know him as some dude Portnoy is in bands with, but then there are a lot of dudes Portnoy is in bands with.
I didn't even know there was a Neal Morse Greatest Hits, or that he's on streaming services other than his own thing. Go figure.
Neither did I until I searched some of his work in honour of this countdown. Looke like he just has a few greatest hits on Spotify and that's it, so that's all I checked out. The solo Neal Morse one (as opposed to the the Neal Morse Band one) was part prog, part solo acoustic. The solo acoustic songs were the real God bothering ones, and it is not for me, had me skipping pretty quickly.
I didn't even know there was a Neal Morse Greatest Hits, or that he's on streaming services other than his own thing. Go figure.
I didn't realize he had a greatest hit, much less enough of them to make a full album...
:neverusethis:
After listening, I'm inclined to agree with you.
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I didn't even know there was a Neal Morse Greatest Hits, or that he's on streaming services other than his own thing. Go figure.
I didn't realize he had a greatest hit, much less enough of them to make a full album...
:neverusethis:
It’s just a pre-curated playlist on Spotify, not an actual release. And it’s not especially representative of his music since most of his stuff is not available on Spotify at all.
I guess if it was “The Neal Morse Collection” that appears to be something Neal put out on Spotify that includes a pretty good cross section of his solo material. If it’s the “This Is Neal Morse” playlist, that is just a random assortment of the few Morse releases that are available to streaming (Sola Gratia, Joseph, Jesus Christ the Exorcist, etc.).
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Yes, more like No. Because they aren't on my list (not due to dislike, just unfamiliarity).
Do I think artists on my list will show up?
25. Not a chance
24. Definitely
23. Opeth
22. Definitely
21. Not a chance
20. Not a chance
19. Not a chance
18. Most probably
17. Not a chance
16. Not a chance
15. Not a chance
14. Godspeed you! Black Emperor
13. Anathema
12. Not a chance
11. Not a chance
10. Thought they would but lost hope by now
09. Not a chance
08. Pain of Salvation
07. Not a chance
06. Not a chance
05. Not a chance
04. Definitely
03. Definitely
02. Not a chance
01. Radiohead
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I’ve had 5 show up and I’m certain I’ll have 3 more. So far:
19. King Crimson
8. Peter Gabriel
7. Spock’s Beard
2. Big Big Train
1. Marillion
What’s kind of interesting is that I had a rough list of 47 bands that I ranked (only sort of after 25), and so far Yes is the only one outside my top 25 to appear on the overall list. Will probably get 2 more from that list though.
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I've heard most of the first couple of decades of Yes albums, like most of them, have a number on vinyl, but have never quite gotten to fully loving any of them. Not quite sure what it is. Sometimes Anderson's voice sounds fine, occasionally it sounds odd, and Howe's distorted guitar tones are kind of brittle. Musicianship is fairly consistently off the charts though.
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21. Queen #1
15. Yes #17
'The Yes Album', 'Fragile', 'Close To The Edge'....what a run. '90125' has so much more to offer than the big hit. Side Two of 'Big Generator' is gold. Lots of misses amongst the rest.
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More catching up...
Judas Priest was the second band I saw live back in '84. They lost me after Halford left, but I've been catching up. Firepower was the best thing I've heard since Painkiller. I had them at #6.
Yes was an acquired taste later in the '80s, but they're an elite level band. So much amazing material. My #5.
I saw Opeth open for DT on one of the Prog Nation shows. I think it may have been the show where we had front row seats. My friends and I got to our seats, and the "singer" opened his mouth. We all looked at each other and headed to the bar for another drink.
1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. I'll be very sad if they don't make the list. I'm guessing if they aren't one of the next few picks we won't see them.
4. LOCK
5. Yes (15) (LOCK)
6. Judas Priest (17) (Slightly better than 50/50)
7. Probably (75%+)
8. At this point, I think there's no chance.
9. See #8
10. No way, eh?
11. Probably 90%+
12. LOCK
13. Helloween (38)
14. UFO (42)
15. I think they're probably a lock, but 17 or higher seems surprising to me
16. LOCK
17. At this point, I'm going to say no better than a 20% chance - surprisingly underrated around here
18. See #17
19. Black Sabbath (20)
20. Not a chance
21. I'm probably the only one to submit this artist
22. See #17
23. Probably?
24. Scorpions (46T)
25. See #17
Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeath, Riverside, KISS, Ayreon, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Pain of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed & Cambria, Mastodon, Queen, Tool, Transatlantic, Marillion, Opeth
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The last tie of the list!
13t. Van Halen
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I like Van Halen, they didn't get on my list but would've made a top 50. The earlier work is my favorite, I haven't spent too much time with anything past 5150.
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Wasn't close to my list. Would never have guessed that Van Halen would beat out Yes and Opeth on this board!
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That's about where I would have put VH. Not top 10, but certainly in the higher part of my next 10.
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Honestly expected them to crack the Top10! Love Van Halen, had them at #3.
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Whoa! I honestly forgot of Van Halen and didn't think they would make it. Good band, but not one I expected. :o
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I like some of the Roth era stuff, but that's pretty much it.
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Still at 8
Van Halen
I can definitely listen to Van Halen but I never do unless it's the radio or something.
Not really my cup of tea
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest, Van Halen
25
24
23
22
21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
20
19
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
17
16
15 Yes (Favorite album: Close to the Edge, favorite song:Roundabout)
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
13
12
11
10
9
8
7
6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
5
4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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This was my 'fringe' band pick that I wasn't sure if they were going to make it, and just made my list at 24. Once I saw Kiss just outside the Top 25, I had a strong feeling VH was going to make this. I'm probably an anomaly in that they made my list on the strength (imo) of the Hagar era. DLR era has higher highs, but lower lows as well. Pound for pound, I find more consistency with the Hagar albums.
25. Queen (23)
24. Van Halen (13)
23. Nada
22. Nope
21. Uh-uh
20. 99% certain
19. Nah
18. No
17. Guaranteed
16. I could be the only one that voted for them
15. I'm definitely the only one that voted for them
14. Fo Sho
13. Evergrey (43)
12. I'm not sure why I even voted for them!
11. Nightwish (40)
10. Me and King only
9. Nope
8. Symphony-X (50)
7. Highly unlikely, and I'm stunned they didn't make the Top 50.
6. Spock's Beard (28)
5. Criminally, no
4. Ayreon (29)
3. Without a doubt
2. Bet my annual salary
1. 99% certain
P.S. In this case, green is not saracsm. :lol
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VH is another band not in my top 25 but certainly in the top 40, probably top 35. I gave them consideration for the back of the top 25 for sure, but I had to make some choice there, and I have realized during the recent VH countdowns that there is a lot of music from both the Roth and Hagar eras I’m not really into any more (even if there is a ton I still love). EVH is one of the all time greats for sure though, and they made a late career masterpiece with Cherone that I still think is fantastic pretty much front to back.
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25
24
23 Miles Davis
22 Black Sabbath
21 Godspeed You! Black Emperor
20
19
18
17 King Crimson
16
15 Agalloch
14
13
12
11
10
9
8
7
6 Peter Gabriel
5
4
3
2
1 Frank Zappa
lots of misses for me lately, lol
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So much joy in Van Halen’s music.
So much colour.
So much fun.
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The last tie of the list!
13t. Van Halen
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Number of top 10 finishes: 5
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I like Van Halen, they didn't get on my list but would've made a top 50. The earlier work is my favorite, I haven't spent too much time with anything past 5150.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
NR Tool
NR Black Sabbath
NR Judas Priest
NR Opeth
NR Van Halen
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
26 Queen
25 ?
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20 Riverside
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13 Yes
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10 Ayreon
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07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
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03 Transatlantic
02
01 Big Big Train
I like what I've heard of from VH but I'm not that into them. Not that they don't deserve to be here, they're just not quite for me. Definitely did not expect them though, but that's how most of this countdown has been. I've only got 7 in my Top 25 so far, which feels average for many here.
-Marc.
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Figured VH would make it, and they're totally worthy of being there. Wouldn't have made my personal list though, but always respect arguably the greatest American rock band ever.
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There was a time (back in college) when Van Halen was absolutely my favorite band in the world.
Then they had their split with Hagar, which left a bad taste in my mouth. And then they got rid of Michael Anthony, which was kind of a deal breaker for me, and I lost all respect for the band.
Even now, though, out of my love for the music they made prior to that point, I still like them, although they probably wouldn't have made my Top 25.
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I don't think I've listened to a single note from VH :corn
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I don't think I've listened to a single note from VH :corn
You've never even heard Jump? It's hard to miss.
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I don't think I've listened to a single note from VH :corn
You've never even heard Jump? It's hard to miss.
Also, Eruption? Surely everyone knows Eruption. Not necessarily because it was so popular, just because it's fucking Eruption!
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Panama as well. That gets played non-stop on every 80s station (rock or general) we stream at work.
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I don't think I've listened to a single note from VH :corn
I'd bet jingle's annual salary that you've unintentionally heard many, many notes from VH
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I'm always surprised some fans of rock and metal don't happen to hear certain hit songs by huge bands for decades and decades. The fact that someone never heard a single note of Van Halen music is very interesting.
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Just a quick catch up, maybe comments later:
Judas Priest: Had them at #20
Opeth: Had them at #24
Yes: NR
Van Halen: NR
Here's where I'm at:
25 Nope, especially at this point
24 Opeth (16)
23 Mastodon (23)
22 No Way
21 Thought they had a chance, but probably not at this point
20 Judas Priest (17)
19 I guess not
18 Evergrey (43)
17 Anathema (36)
16 Pain of Salvation (26)
15 I guess not
14 Nope
13 Thought they might have a shot, but no
12 Lock?
11 Nope
10 Marillion (18)
9 Katatonia (39)
8 I thought maaaaaybe, but not at this point
7 Nope
6 They might still have a chance, but we are maybe getting a little too high
5 Lock?
4 Lock?
3 Nope
2 Lock
1 Lock
4/12 in the top 25 so far, 8/38 in the top 50
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I don't think I've listened to a single note from VH :corn
you and Billie Eilish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWj6trN06mg
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I don't think I've listened to a single note from VH :corn
I'm honestly not sure. Any non-US/Canada DTFers who voted for VH? I feel like they're literally nonexistent here, not popular at all. Curious how they do in Europe.
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I don't think I've listened to a single note from VH :corn
I'm honestly not sure. Any non-US/Canada DTFers who voted for VH? I feel like they're literally nonexistent here, not popular at all. Curious how they do in Europe.
Don't know how popular they are but they are and were played a lot on radio etc.
The one who has not heard jump can't ever liiisten to radio even unintntonally in restaurants / stores / concert venuesetc.
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I like a lot of Yes. Squire's bass playing is legendary and Anderson's voice is iconic. I find it hard to listen through a complete album though. I get how many regard them highly.
VH has had some ups and downs for sure. I love most and appreciate all of it.
1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. LOCK
4. Probably not
5. Nope
6. LOCK
7. LOCK
8. LOCK
9. Van Halen
10. Nope
11. Mastodon
12. Spock's Beard
13. Nope
14. Nope
15. Between the Buried and Me
16. Nope
17. Avenged Sevenfold
18. Opeth
19. Nope
20. Tool
21. Coheed & Cambria
22. LOCK
23. Absolutely nope
24. Nope
25. Megadeth
31. Kiss
34. Queen
38. Transatlantic
79. Black Sabbath
85. Yes
LOCK prediction count: 2/9
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I don't think I've listened to a single note from VH :corn
I thought the same until I went and found "Jump" a few minutes ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwYN7mTi6HM
What are their other big songs?
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Yes would have easily made my list, possibly as high as Top 10, almost definitely Top 15.
Oh, one other thing related to this thread. I got to the Neal Morse greatest hits on Spoify, and I wasn't aware he had so many songs based on his religious views. I've gotta be honest, that is somewhat of a turn off for me.
Gotta be honest, that made me spit coffee all over my desk.
This is Neal's modus operandi, his defining characteristic. His religious views are the entire reason for his solo career. He has even worked his religious views into outside projects, like Transatlantic and Flying Colors. Hell, I would argue that even before he actually left Spock's Beard, it was happening. Wind at my Back is one of the most beautiful worship songs I've ever heard.
But to be fair, at least on the outside stuff and the later "NMB" stuff, it's presented in a way that you don't HAVE to be a Jesus freak to connect with it. Knowing Neal, there's no QUESTION what a song like "Supernatural" is about, but for me, it's one of my favorite songs ever because I can listen to it and interpret it as being a positive song about love, not a direct ode to "God". Other things, like The Whirlwind, fall into that category. I don't have a problem with the Jesus stuff - any more than I have a problem with "The Number Of The Beast" or something like that - but you can certainly like Neal's music without investing in the message.
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VH is another band not in my top 25 but certainly in the top 40, probably top 35. I gave them consideration for the back of the top 25 for sure, but I had to make some choice there, and I have realized during the recent VH countdowns that there is a lot of music from both the Roth and Hagar eras I’m not really into any more (even if there is a ton I still love). EVH is one of the all time greats for sure though, and they made a late career masterpiece with Cherone that I still think is fantastic pretty much front to back.
Is that like the brown M&Ms thing, to see if people were reading your post? :) :) :) : ) :) :)
(I kid, I know you like that album. It's just that no one else does. :) )
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I don't think I've listened to a single note from VH :corn
I thought the same until I went and found "Jump" a few minutes ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwYN7mTi6HM
What are their other big songs?
Honestly, listen to Van Halen I and you'll get the gist. If you don't like that you probably won't like anything that comes after, at least not of the Roth years.
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VH is another band not in my top 25 but certainly in the top 40, probably top 35. I gave them consideration for the back of the top 25 for sure, but I had to make some choice there, and I have realized during the recent VH countdowns that there is a lot of music from both the Roth and Hagar eras I’m not really into any more (even if there is a ton I still love). EVH is one of the all time greats for sure though, and they made a late career masterpiece with Cherone that I still think is fantastic pretty much front to back.
Is that like the brown M&Ms thing, to see if people were reading your post? :) :) :) : ) :) :)
(I kid, I know you like that album. It's just that no one else does. :) )
I do like to see the reactions. But I stand by III being awesome!
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Devin Townsend
NR Tool
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Opeth
NR Nightwish
NR Megadeth
NR Mastodon
NR Katatonia
NR Judas Priest
NR Helloween
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
30 Transatlantic (The Whirlwind, Bridge Across Forever, The Absolute Universe)
26 Van Halen (Fair Warning, A Different Kind Of Truth, 1984)
25 Sadly, not a shot
24 Sadly, not a shot
23 Given
22 Queen (Queen II; Innuendo; A Kind Of Magic)
21 Given
20 Given
19 Probably not; they are a classic, but don't seem to get much love here
18 Sadly, not a shot
17 Sadly, not a shot
16 Given
15 Probably not; it's an offshoot of another band here and it won't likely make the grade
14 Sadly, not a shot
13 Sadly, not a shot
12 Neal Morse. (And yes, I lumped.). (Innocence and Danger; The Grand Experiment; TSOAD)
11 Black Sabbath (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sabotage, Heaven and Hell)
10 Sadly, not a shot
9 Given
8 Probably not; his more popular (here) incarnation already appeared
7 Given
6 Marillion (Clutching At Straws, Misplaced Childhood, Brave)
5 Yes (Going For The One, Fragile, Close To The Edge)
4 Given
3. Kiss (Rock And Roll Over; Creatures Of The Night; Hotter Than Hell)
2 Given
1 Given
Going For The One, by Yes, is my favorite album of all time by any band. And honestly, they have two or three others that are in the top 10 or 20. Their catalogue is patchy, and I'm not really into the band without Chris Squire, but they are one of the few bands that I don't have to be in the mood to listen to them; it always seems to connect.
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I don't think I've listened to a single note from VH :corn
I thought the same until I went and found "Jump" a few minutes ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwYN7mTi6HM
What are their other big songs?
Honestly, listen to Van Halen I and you'll get the gist. If you don't like that you probably won't like anything that comes after, at least not of the Roth years.
Looking at the titles alone tells me I have heard VH before. My parents listened to this when I was a kid.
And it brings up a deep memory for me - when I was a kid, because a lot of people in my family have the name James, my nickname was Jamie. During some parade when I was 6, I was crying and that happened to be while "Jamie's Crying" was playing on the radio. My dad gave me a shit-eating grin from the front seat after loading me into the car and I couldn't help but laugh as he started singing the lyrics in a sarcastic way to lighten me up.
So thank you for bringing that memory back to me :lol
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Prediction - at least 1 of the 9 "given" from Stadlers list won't make it. There's only 12 spots, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least 1 surprise in there.
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Yeah, I just ran down a list of 19 bands/artists I could see appearing on the list. Some are gonna be out of the top 50 altogether.
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I don't think I've listened to a single note from VH :corn
I thought the same until I went and found "Jump" a few minutes ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwYN7mTi6HM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwYN7mTi6HM)
Yeah that initial synth does ring a bell, probably from USA movies and series. I don't think they were that big here in South America afaik.
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Love Love Love Van Halen. Cool to see them this high :metal
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So much joy in Van Halen’s music.
So much colour.
So much fun.
I’m glad you brought out the color. Eddie and Hendrix made you see colors with their playing.
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I think it's obvious at this point that one of my favorites will not make this list, but I will be interested to see if they would have made it had I entered a list (they would have been 5th or 6th on my list).
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Kev shoot me a pm, I'm curious who you're referring to.
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VH is another band not in my top 25 but certainly in the top 40, probably top 35. I gave them consideration for the back of the top 25 for sure, but I had to make some choice there, and I have realized during the recent VH countdowns that there is a lot of music from both the Roth and Hagar eras I’m not really into any more (even if there is a ton I still love). EVH is one of the all time greats for sure though, and they made a late career masterpiece with Cherone that I still think is fantastic pretty much front to back.
Is that like the brown M&Ms thing, to see if people were reading your post? :) :) :) : ) :) :)
(I kid, I know you like that album. It's just that no one else does. :) )
I do! VHIII was one of my earlier hard rock/metal experiences, stumbling upon the live broadcast of the album's debut. Always had a fondness for it, and still feel that it's probably the most misunderstood and unfairly maligned album there is. I think it would have gone over much better as an EVH solo album. Easily some of his most creative and best work there, which given his earlier career is saying quite a lot. It's a bit uneven for sure, but "Once" and "Fire in the Hole" are especially great. I was never much of a DLR fan, and Hagar was only slightly better, so I prefer Cherone of their vocalists.
EVH is one of my favorite guitarists, and "Respect the Wind" that he did with Alex for the Twister soundtrack was one of my biggest inspirations for learning guitar, but VH's vocalists and party vibe has always held me back from listening to them more than I could have, but I still have and enjoy just about all of their albums.
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My list at this point.
25: No chance.
24: Possible, though if they were going to appear I'd have expected it much lower on the list.
23: No way.
22: Anathema (#36)
21: Have a few fans here, not nearly enough for this list.
20: Ayreon (#29)
19: Decent following, but highly unlikely this high up.
18: Not a chance.
17: If [redacted] only got #[redacted], no way will he appear this far in.
16: A bit out of DTF's wheelhouse.
15: Absolutely not.
14: Very slim chance, but like #19, I'd have expected them lower if they were going to appear.
13: Fat chance.
12: Similar to #21.
11: I wish.
10: Also similar to #21.
9: When hell freezes over.
8: Again, see #21.
7: Definitely not.
6: Certainly not.
5: Not a shot.
4: When pigs fly.
3: A couple people who could have boosted them didn't vote, so I don't think so.
2: Opeth (#16)
1: Katatonia (#39)
Top 50
Top 25
I don't think I've listened to a single note from VH :corn
I'm honestly not sure. Any non-US/Canada DTFers who voted for VH? I feel like they're literally nonexistent here, not popular at all. Curious how they do in Europe.
Don't know how popular they are but they are and were played a lot on radio etc.
The one who has not heard jump can't ever liiisten to radio even unintntonally in restaurants / stores / concert venuesetc.
I don't think I've listened to a single note from VH :corn
I thought the same until I went and found "Jump" a few minutes ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwYN7mTi6HM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwYN7mTi6HM)
Yeah that initial synth does ring a bell, probably from USA movies and series. I don't think they were that big here in South America afaik.
I'm continually amazed at how similar things are in countries across the globe, but this might be one of those examples where they aren't. I think VH is probably one of those acts that aren't quite as universal as some others.
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...EVH is one of my favorite guitarists, and "Respect the Wind" that he did with Alex for the Twister soundtrack was one of my biggest inspirations for learning guitar, but VH's vocalists and party vibe has always held me back from listening to them more than I could have, but I still have and enjoy just about all of their albums.
Even as a youngling I took a distaste for most that party stuff. I had a dislike for the likes of Cherry Pie, Sugar, Do You Wanna Get Rocked etc, but even at their worst Van Halen never came close to that level of dross (IMO and of course respectfully for those that enjoyed all that stuff). I mean I didn't hate it, but avoided it pretty early in my pursuit of rock/metal...
And the advantage with VH is they often went well past such nonsense, or in the very least tried (hey even as a megafan always hated Finish What Ya Started so I get it). But sticking with the Sammy stuff you seem to like a touch better (if can get the vocals), for great music/guitars with less of that party vibe you would do well to really delve back into the likes of;
316
Right Now
Humans Being
Mine All Mine
5150 (title track)
Dreams
Jugement Day
The Seventh Seal
Don't Tell Me
Crossing Over
Just my 2c ;)
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Spinning my Dad's copy of Close to the Edge this morning, in honour of this thread.
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Yes (my #12) has IMO 14 to really good to amazing albums, in order of my personal preference:
14. The Yes Album
13. Fly from Here
12. Keystudio
11. Magnification
10. Close to the Edge
9. Fragile
8. Big Generator
7. The Ladder
6. Going for the One
5. Relayer
4. Tormato
3. Talk
2. 90125
1. Drama
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It's only fitting that Van Halen is tied with Van Halen's biggest fan :lol
13t. Steven Wilson
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Highest Finish: 3 (nobloodyname)
Number of top 10 finishes: 5
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I've always thought that Steven Wilson is way better in PT than solo. I do really love Raven but to me he's failed to reach the highs of that album. His solo work is usually a mix of great/good/terrible songs. I totally understand why he placed in the top 25, even though I'm a little surprised he placed as high as he did.
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I wondered if vote-splitting might push him right out of range. Clearly not, which means there's definitely going to be a huge snub over what I'd already anticipated.
Honestly I kind of roll a lot of his work together, and really enjoy a lot of it, but not quite enough to make my list. The blandness of his voice definitely holds it back for me a bit.
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Oh wow, that's funny that SW and VH tied.
SW did not make my list or really get any consideration for it, but I do admire him as an artist/producer/mixer. I got into PT with In Absentia, and liked it a lot at the time along with several of their adjacent albums. Also got into the first Blackfield album when it came out, Opeth Damnation, etc. He even showed up on that first OSI album. At the time I kind of loved everything he touched when I first heard it, but found that the albums had little replay value for me over time. Something about his music has a tendency to leave me cold, and while he can make his voice work at times, I don't usually enjoy him as a singer (as a guitarist, I do quite like his solos). Too much of that kind of depressive atmosphere is the main problem I think.
All that to say, by the time he split with PT I had stopped buying their albums and didn't really have any interest in his solo stuff (everything I heard always sounded kind of the same and similarly depressive). I was drawn back in with To The Bone because of the pop goodness of Permanating. I liked the album well enough, but was surprised by how much hate it seemed to get since it sounded a lot like a PT album to me. I skipped The Future Bites as nothing I heard from it sounded interesting.
But I love The Harmony Codex. I think he finally made an engaging synth rock/art pop type of album that captures some of the spirit of Peter Gabriel or Talk Talk and really engages me the whole way through. We'll see if it holds up for me long term though I guess!
I also enjoy his "The Album Years" podcast with Tim Bowness, even though half the time they are talking about some sort of random electronic noise album. His knowledge of music is pretty amazing, and there's always something interesting to learn from those pods.
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I always thought on thing I liked about Steven is he definitely knew how to write for his vocal style and range. His voice can be a bit grating at times but I don't mind it for the most part.
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Up to 9
Steven Wilson
I was late to the party....
I had heard great things about Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson but when I tried it did not connect.
When he toured Hand. I tried agai and this time it did connect.
Went back to PT as well and now it connected.
To the Bone was released and I really liked it, saw the tour twice.
Saw Porcupine Tree last year...and now I wouldn't miss a show.
Was not too fond of Future Bites but Harmony Codex is good to my ears.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest, Van Halen
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21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
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19 Steven Wilson (favorite album: The Raven That Refused To Sing, favorite song: The Raven That Refused To Sing)
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
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15 Yes (Favorite album: Close to the Edge, favorite song:Roundabout)
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
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6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
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4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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I always thought on thing I liked about Steven is he definitely knew how to write for his vocal style and range. His voice can be a bit grating at times but I don't mind it for the most part.
It's actually stood out to me on The Harmony Codex how much better his voice sounds than it used to. Not pushing that whinier nasally tone anymore, focusing more on a lower register and sounding a bit more gravely for lack of a better word.
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love SW but he didn't make my list. PT tho....
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I am never quite sure where to put solo SW. Every artist in my top 10 has at least 10 studio albums, but solo SW, despite only having seven, is getting awfully close to breaking into it. How well The Harmony Codex ages for me could be the last nudge to get it in there, as his first six albums are three I love (The Raven, Hand Cannot Erase, Grace for Drowning), two I really, really, really like (To the Bone and Insurgentes) and one I like quite a bit (The Future Bites).
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I love Steven Wilson, and he probably would have made my list twice, solo and in Porcupine Tree.
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My appreciation for SW solo ranges from meh, to not-bad, to really decent, to quite enjoyable. RJ did pimp Hand.Cannot.Erase enough for me to buy that one, but that's as far as it goes. Pariah is a pretty bitchin tune as well.
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My appreciation for SW solo ranges from meh, to not-bad, to really decent, to quite enjoyable. RJ did pimp Hand.Cannot.Erase enough for me to buy that one, but that's as far as it goes. Pariah is a pretty bitchin tune as well.
I like Pariah, but I always want Ninet to stop and clear her throat.
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My appreciation for SW solo ranges from meh, to not-bad, to really decent, to quite enjoyable. RJ did pimp Hand.Cannot.Erase enough for me to buy that one, but that's as far as it goes. Pariah is a pretty bitchin tune as well.
I like Pariah, but I always want Ninet to stop and clear her throat.
Yeah, the forced husky/histrionic style wears me out.
I lumped SW in with one of his bands for the vote, same as Devin, so vote-splitting definitely happening. Not that it matters too much.
I'm not keen on his voice, but I think the guy is borderline genius.
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My appreciation for SW solo ranges from meh, to not-bad, to really decent, to quite enjoyable. RJ did pimp Hand.Cannot.Erase enough for me to buy that one, but that's as far as it goes. Pariah is a pretty bitchin tune as well.
I like Pariah, but I always want Ninet to stop and clear her throat.
Yeah, the forced husky/histrionic style wears me out.
I like her voice and style well enough, but there is a rasp on some notes that just sounds like she's got a chest cold and needs to cough.
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Steven Wilson
NR Devin Townsend
NR Tool
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Opeth
NR Nightwish
NR Megadeth
NR Mastodon
NR Katatonia
NR Judas Priest
NR Helloween
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
30 Transatlantic (The Whirlwind, Bridge Across Forever, The Absolute Universe)
26 Van Halen (Fair Warning, A Different Kind Of Truth, 1984)
25 Sadly, not a shot
24 Sadly, not a shot
23 Given
22 Queen (Queen II; Innuendo; A Kind Of Magic)
21 Given
20 Given
19 Probably not; they are a classic, but don't seem to get much love here
18 Sadly, not a shot
17 Sadly, not a shot
16 Given
15 Probably not; it's an offshoot of another band here and it won't likely make the grade
14 Sadly, not a shot
13 Sadly, not a shot
12 Neal Morse. (And yes, I lumped.). (Innocence and Danger; The Grand Experiment; TSOAD)
11 Black Sabbath (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sabotage, Heaven and Hell)
10 Sadly, not a shot
9 Given
8 Probably not; his more popular (here) incarnation already appeared
7 Given
6 Marillion (Clutching At Straws, Misplaced Childhood, Brave)
5 Yes (Going For The One, Fragile, Close To The Edge)
4 Given
3. Kiss (Rock And Roll Over; Creatures Of The Night; Hotter Than Hell)
2 Given
1 Given
Steven Wilson is just not for me. I liked some of the stuff he did with Fish on Sunsets (Sunsets On Empire the song is probably my favorite Fish solo tune). And I listened too... I think it's "The Raven..." and it didn't connect. I'm open to suggestions though, since I rarely close doors on artists completely (except Radiohead).
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My appreciation for SW solo ranges from meh, to not-bad, to really decent, to quite enjoyable. RJ did pimp Hand.Cannot.Erase enough for me to buy that one, but that's as far as it goes. Pariah is a pretty bitchin tune as well.
I like Pariah, but I always want Ninet to stop and clear her throat.
Yeah, the forced husky/histrionic style wears me out.
With the disclaimer that I've only heard her sing on SW's songs, I love her voice, and the husky style/rasp is definitely part of the appeal for me. Again, I haven't listened enough of her for that to wear me out, so there's that ;) But I'm happy whenever I see she's a guest on one (or more) of the songs
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Regarding Van Halen as a "party band", look, I get that I can't convince anyone of anything - and I don't really care to - but to be fair...
That's what Van Halen is. They started out PLAYING PARTIES. If you're expecting album-side length songs on the nature of the cosmos, go to Neal Morse, Yes, or Pink Floyd. But given where we're starting from, I always thought that David Lee Roth brought something additional to the table, beyond "Cherry Pie". There was a thoughtfulness and intelligence behind a lot of those lyrics that I think was glossed over given his sometimes outrageous demeanor.
I've written about this before: I think there was a vaudevillian, humorous take to the Roth lyrics, and I think there is a darker angle to Sammy, and his "humor" is a lot more "frat boy", at least to this guy. Just look at the lyrics to, say, Beautiful Girls, versus, say, Black and Blue. I have also gone on record and said that the lyrics to "A Different Kind Of Truth" are inspired. I think they are not just "good" but "great". The way that "Blood and Fire" works on a couple different levels (one meta). The observationalism of "Tattoo" ("Mousewife to momshell in the time it took to get that new tattoo" is, I think, socially profound.).
I don't know; I'm not going too far the other way; it's not really literature, but I think it's got a LOT more substance than the titles seem to indicate, at least in the Roth years.
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Van Halen and Steven Wilson were both NR for me...
Van Halen: there's many songs that I like, and I think the debut is deservedly considered a classic. And not just in an "of its time" kind of way. I don't care too much about Eruption, other than the "historical" significance, but the rest is still sounding incredibly fresh to my ears. That said, the rest of the DLR era doesn't quite connect. Again, some great songs, but as a whole, never got too excited about it (I have to say, though, A Different Kind of Truth was better than expected). As for Van Hagar - my favorites are probably 5150 and F.U.C.K. (Right Now is in the running for favorite tune). Great playing all around, of course. EVH is one of the all-time greats, no doubt. But not a band I go back to super often, at the end of the day
Steven Wilson: Like his solo stuff a lot. Not top 25-a lot, but he has rarely disappointed. I would say the sweet spot for me is with HCE and To the Bone.
Steven Wilson is just not for me. I liked some of the stuff he did with Fish on Sunsets (Sunsets On Empire the song is probably my favorite Fish solo tune). And I listened too... I think it's "The Raven..." and it didn't connect. I'm open to suggestions though, since I rarely close doors on artists completely (except Radiohead).
Raven is perhaps his most "old-school" prog album. It has beautiful stuff, but like I mentioned above, I have a slight preference for what comes next. Hand.Cannot.Erase truly sounds pristine and it's a good combo of proggy and easy listening. Some wonderful guitar playing on that one too. To The Bone is next, and it leans more on the "poppy" side (I'd say "sophisticated" pop, but maybe that's a turn off ;)), in addition to having a couple of tunes that wouldn't be out of place in a Porcupine Tree record.
Maybe try one of these...? They are VERY good.
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24 Steven Wilson
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22: Tool
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16: Riverside
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13: Anathema
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9: Between The Buried And Me
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5: Opeth
4: Agalloch
3
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1: Devin Townsend
Spoiler alert: I hope Porcupine Tree is up soon, because I ranked them much higher. Steven Wilson's solo output is a lot more shaky in my opinion, and I'm really not much of a fan of that 70s throwback sound he got trapped in for a few years, but Hand Cannot Erase and To The Bone are both fantastic albums.
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Never heard SW at all or PT
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Well finally something I can comment on :lol . Yeah I love Steven, he's probably my favorite music artist when considered as a whole with all of his different projects. I even saw him live during the 4 1/2 tour, and it was a great show.
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A little catching up to do and I'm 0/2 of these last two, and Steven Wilson is the only one that *maybe has a chance of sneaking in my top 50.
Starting with VH, I do have a few of their songs on my ipod (all from their debut to be fair) and enjoy them from time to time. I have sampled most of their other albums at least once but nothing ever kept them in regular rotation. They are high energy rock though, and realistically should be right up my street.
Regarding them as a party band, I know that Dimebag and Vinnie Paul always used to shout "VAN HALEN" and high five before every single show. I think to them it kinda meant 'let's go out there and have a good time'. They come across as that sort of party band to me, at least.
On to Steven Wilson. Count me as one of the fans who way prefers his solo work over Porcupine Tree. I really do quite like his solo stuff, especially To the Bone. I find him as a person to be a bit pretentious (probably an understatement) and he'd deny it, but he clearly seems a little bitter he's never become hugely popular. For him, I don't think it's about the money or the fame, I get the feeling that he feels he is a superior songwriter to 99% of artists out there, and feels he should be recognised as such. That's the feel I get from interviews and stuff. I do like the guy, and the majority of his work but that part of his persona rubs me up the wrong way, a little. When I talked about Devin Townsend earlier, he is totally the opposite in how he conducts himself in interviews and gives off a very different vibe, that I am much more drawn to.
NR:
Miles Davis
Symphony X
Agalloch
King Crimson
Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Evergrey
UFO
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Nightwish
Katatonia
Helloween
Between the Buried and Me
Anathema
Radiohead
Big Big Train
Peter Gabriel
Riverside
KISS
Ayreon
Spock's Beard
Neal Morse
Pain of Salvation
Queen
Tool
Black Sabbath
Transatlantic
Marillion
Yes
Van Halen
Steven Wilson
25. Avenged Sevenfold (Favourite Album: City of Evil. Favourite Song: Cosmic)
24.
23. Devin Townsend (Favourite Album: Really hard to pick, but today I'll say Terria. Favourite Song: Kingdom or Deep Peace)
22.
21.
20.
19.
18.
17.
16.
15.
14.
13.
12.
11. The Dear Hunter (Favourite Album: Act IV: Rebirth in Reprise. Favourite Song: Home/A Night on the Town)
10.
9. Megadeth (Favourite Album: Rust in Peace. Favourite Song: Washington is Next!)
8. Mastodon (Favourite Album: Blood Mountain. Favourite Song: Too many to choose, but currently Gigantium)
7.
6. Opeth (Favourite Album: Ghost Reveries. Favourite Song: )
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4.
3.
2.
1. Coheed and Cambria (Favourite Album: Good Apollo I’m Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness. Favourite Song: Willing Well Suite)
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I'm actually surprised Steven Wilson made the top 25. I didn't rank him solo, although I do like everything from Insurgestes thru Hand.Cannot.Erase, but he started to lose me with To the Bone. Then The Future Bites was terrible, which has made me less interested in listening to The Harmony Codex. I will get to it eventually...
My appreciation for SW solo ranges from meh, to not-bad, to really decent, to quite enjoyable. RJ did pimp Hand.Cannot.Erase enough for me to buy that one, but that's as far as it goes. Pariah is a pretty bitchin tune as well.
I like Pariah, but I always want Ninet to stop and clear her throat.
Yeah, the forced husky/histrionic style wears me out.
With the disclaimer that I've only heard her sing on SW's songs, I love her voice, and the husky style/rasp is definitely part of the appeal for me. Again, I haven't listened enough of her for that to wear me out, so there's that ;) But I'm happy whenever I see she's a guest on one (or more) of the songs
I really like her vocals too. I have a couple of her solo albums which are also really good. כל החיות ידעו in particular is really good. I need to try her new album still
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13t. Van Halen
13t. Steven Wilson
Van Halen is a quintessential part of southern California music history. They were THE band when I was in the last couple years of elementary school and first few years of high school. They have some AMAZING songs. However, for me, there just isn't enough there to crack my top 25. They came in at 36 on my list.
I've barely heard of Seven Wilson (I thought he was in a band and not a solo artist). Never heard anything he's done.
With only 12 remaining, I probably need to rethink my "LOCKS."
1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. I'll be very sad if they don't make the list. I'm guessing if they aren't one of the next few picks we won't see them.
4. LOCK
5. Yes (15) (LOCK)
6. Judas Priest (17) (Slightly better than 50/50)
7. Probably (75%+)
8. At this point, I think there's no chance.
9. See #8
10. No way, eh?
11. Probably 90%+
12. LOCK
13. Helloween (38)
14. UFO (42)
15. I think they're probably a lock, but 17 or higher seems surprising to me
16. LOCK
17. At this point, I'm going to say no better than a 20% chance - surprisingly underrated around here
18. See #17
19. Black Sabbath (20)
20. Not a chance
21. I'm probably the only one to submit this artist
22. See #17
23. Probably?
24. Scorpions (46T)
25. See #17
Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeath, Riverside, KISS, Ayreon, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Pain of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed & Cambria, Mastodon, Queen, Tool, Transatlantic, Marillion, Opeth, Van Halen (36), Steven Wilson
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love SW but he didn't make my list. PT tho....
This 👀
And I listened too... I think it's "The Raven..." and it didn't connect. I'm open to suggestions though, since I rarely close doors on artists completely (except Radiohead).
Oh Stadler.
25.
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1. Radiohead
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Van Halen (my #6) was one of the most revolutionary bands in rock and has an excellent and very consistent discography. IMO even VH3 is a really good album, if you just cut around 4 songs off it.
I really like SW, he has some great and amazing albums, but I think PT is better and has more history written.
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It's only fitting that Van Halen is tied with Van Halen's biggest fan :lol
13t. Steven Wilson
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I've always thought that Steven Wilson is way better in PT than solo. I do really love Raven but to me he's failed to reach the highs of that album. His solo work is usually a mix of great/good/terrible songs. I totally understand why he placed in the top 25, even though I'm a little surprised he placed as high as he did.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
NR Tool
NR Black Sabbath
NR Judas Priest
NR Opeth
NR Van Halen
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
26 Queen
25 ?
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20 Riverside
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14 Steven Wilson
13 Yes
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10 Ayreon
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07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
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03 Transatlantic
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01 Big Big Train
Currently at work so this will be short, but I had SW right behind Yes. As for his placement, this was just for solo SW, and nothing else. If it included ALL of his projects, he would've made my top 10 easily.
-Marc.
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Regarding Van Halen as a "party band", look, I get that I can't convince anyone of anything - and I don't really care to - but to be fair...
That's what Van Halen is. They started out PLAYING PARTIES. If you're expecting album-side length songs on the nature of the cosmos, go to Neal Morse, Yes, or Pink Floyd. But given where we're starting from, I always thought that David Lee Roth brought something additional to the table, beyond "Cherry Pie". There was a thoughtfulness and intelligence behind a lot of those lyrics that I think was glossed over given his sometimes outrageous demeanor.
I've written about this before: I think there was a vaudevillian, humorous take to the Roth lyrics, and I think there is a darker angle to Sammy, and his "humor" is a lot more "frat boy", at least to this guy. Just look at the lyrics to, say, Beautiful Girls, versus, say, Black and Blue. I have also gone on record and said that the lyrics to "A Different Kind Of Truth" are inspired. I think they are not just "good" but "great". The way that "Blood and Fire" works on a couple different levels (one meta). The observationalism of "Tattoo" ("Mousewife to momshell in the time it took to get that new tattoo" is, I think, socially profound.).
I don't know; I'm not going too far the other way; it's not really literature, but I think it's got a LOT more substance than the titles seem to indicate, at least in the Roth years.
Can't argue with this well said ;D
Have heard a little but not enough to investigate further so clearly NR and I must delve into more Steven Wilson some more!
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Moving onto number 12, think it was supposed to be spelled Fatez guys.
12. Fates Warning
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A band I never fully explored. My intro to Fates was actually in the summer 2003 DT tour where they opened. I thought they had a great sound and enjoyed seeing them live. It took a few years but I finally got around to listening to Disconnected and I really listened to it.
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Bit of a blind spot for me. I have No Exit, and have heard a handful of more recent songs, but I'm not terribly familiar with much of their work. But they are on my list of priorities to explore more.
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One of those bands that just never clicked for me.
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Last three didn't make my list. Very little familiarity with Fates Warning, but I do remember seeing them on that one DT tour when they had Nick D'Virgilio guesting on drums.
Van Halen is probably not really my style overall, but compared to some of their peers, I actually don't mind them. I liked the DLR era quite a bit in my teenage years, though as an adult I'm a little more drawn to the Hagar era. From that era are two songs I genuinely love -- "Dreams" and "Humans Being".
Steven Wilson is a tough one for me. Big fan of PT, but for various reasons I haven't completely kept up with SW's solo career. I have Insurgentes (which I think is OK) and GfD (which I think is fantastic) and got The Raven next, but that album is bleak. Not bad, but depressing in tone almost straight-through. And when I was trying to listen to that album it was at a time when I wasn't particularly receptive to that. I'd like to revisit this at some point because musically that album is great, and I'm sure I'll find things to like in his next couple albums as well.
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I did not expect Fates to rate this high, but I'm pleasantly surprised. When they didn't show up by about 20, I had a feeling they were going to be completely snubbed. Which means there's another high profile band that is going to be snubbed. I think I can guess who, but it's a damn shame (even though they - ironically - didn't make my list).
Another band that past me by in real time. I think the problem was that I first heard about them from a bunch of online people fellating how good A Pleasant Shade of Grey was. So, I went and grabbed it off Napster ( :lol). Given my love of concept albums, I had (apparently too) high expectations. I didn't click - and still doesn't. So I didn't dig any deeeper. By the time I started taking interest, there were just a few too many albums to go back and revisit, and the Arch era doesn't do anything for me. I love pretty much everything out there from the Alder era, but don't really 'know' everything by them. I only own Theories of Flight both are killer, but have a few others saved on Spotify.
Great band that I just don't 'know' well enough to put in my Top 25.
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Fates Warning weren’t on my list, but I do like a lot of their music. They are my brother’s favorite band, and he got into them kind of at the same time I was getting into DT, so there was kind of a rivalry there and I didn’t love them as much as appreciate them.
I’ve only recently gotten around to collecting the albums that I really liked from them, which is mostly Parallels and Inside Out, but A Pleasant Shade of Gray and Perfect Symmetry have their moments too. Parallels is up there in the mix for best prog metal album of all time probably.
I really struggle with the John Arch era, and don’t get as much out of their recent material, so they didn’t really get consideration for my top 25. But that Parralels-Inside Out lineup of the band was top notch.
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Fates Warning :heart
A Pleasant Shade of Gray is my favorite of theirs, but I love everything since Perfect Symmetry, and like No Exit. The Arch stuff never really did it for me but I can appreciate it, and I did enjoy seeing them with Arch at ProgPower. All of their newer albums have been great. Unfortunately, unless something changes they're pretty much done with studio albums, but I do hope they'll tour at least one more time. I always love seeing them live. I was sure they'd have to make the list. I hoped it would be even higher but this is just fine.
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I remember liking some FW material when I gave them a try maybe 15 years ago or so, but none of it really stuck with me. I still have three albums of theirs in my iTunes, but I literally never listen to any of them.
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Down to the final 11 and there are going to be some serious snubs here. It's gonna be wild to see which DTF mainstays got beat out by Miles Davis and Godspeed You! Black Emperor :lol
I didn't have Fates Warning as I'm not very familiar with the majority of their catalogue. I do really like Theories of Flight though.
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Moving onto number 12, think it was supposed to be spelled Fatez guys.
12. Fates Warning
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A band I never fully explored. My intro to Fates was actually in the summer 2003 DT tour where they opened. I thought they had a great sound and enjoyed seeing them live. It took a few years but I finally got around to listening to Disconnected and I really listened to it.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
NR Tool
NR Black Sabbath
NR Judas Priest
NR Opeth
NR Van Halen
NR Fates Warning
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
26 Queen
25 ?
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20 Riverside
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14 Steven Wilson
13 Yes
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10 Ayreon
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07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
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03 Transatlantic
02
01 Big Big Train
Funny enough, as much as I love DT and other prog metal bands, I never really explored FW. Don't think I've ever really even given them a listen so they obviously didn't rank for me. Makes sense that they'd make it in here though.
-Marc.
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I never really got into Fates Warning.
I know they are foundational to the genre, but frankly I am flabbergasted that they made the Top 25, especially as high as they did. I mean, I don't know, that's really a surprise to me.
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I never really got into Fates Warning.
I know they are foundational to the genre, but frankly I am flabbergasted that they made the Top 25, especially as high as they did. I mean, I don't know, that's really a surprise to me.
This x1000.
I did like the song TAC sent me a few months ago, The Light and Shade of Things.
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Down to the final 11 and there are going to be some serious snubs here. It's gonna be wild to see which DTF mainstays got beat out by Miles Davis and Godspeed You! Black Emperor :lol
Those probably would have been expected here in the 00s, they'd likely be even higher. Their genres have faded in popularity somewhat since then though.
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FW is my #10. I think they have an amazing discography from Perfect Symmetry onwards (I never connected with their work before that), sure some albums are stronger than others, but very consistent in quality. And there was the totally jaw dropping Mark Zonder's drumming, that was something incredible to hear in beginning of 90's when I listened to the band for the first time.
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One of those bands that just never clicked for me.
Same here, I like a few songs from Parallels but that's about it.
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Still at 9
Fates Warning
I have tried them out from time to time as I think they should be for me.
Nothing has really clicked though....
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest, Van Halen, Fates Warning
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24
23
22
21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
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19 Steven Wilson (favorite album: The Raven That Refused To Sing, favorite song: The Raven That Refused To Sing)
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
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16
15 Yes (Favorite album: Close to the Edge, favorite song:Roundabout)
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
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10
9
8
7
6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
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4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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These guys came to my city about ten years ago so I went to check them out, knowing they're a legendary progressive metal band. I enjoyed the show and got two albums afterwards. After a couple of spins, I kind of dismissed them. They were okay, I guess.
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I never really got into Fates Warning.
I know they are foundational to the genre, but frankly I am flabbergasted that they made the Top 25, especially as high as they did. I mean, I don't know, that's really a surprise to me.
This x1000.
I did like the song TAC sent me a few months ago, The Light and Shade of Things.
Not TAC. Me. :biggrin:
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I never really got into Fates Warning.
I know they are foundational to the genre, but frankly I am flabbergasted that they made the Top 25, especially as high as they did. I mean, I don't know, that's really a surprise to me.
This x1000.
I did like the song TAC sent me a few months ago, The Light and Shade of Things.
Not TAC. Me. :biggrin:
I did so bad in that roulette, I knew at "I did like the song" that he wasn't talking about me. :lol
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No Steven Wilson solo for me as I haven't heard any as far as I know. Fatez I had at 92. I really like what I've heard of them. Mostly for Matheos' guitar tones, Alder's voice and album production. I feel like I should have ranked them higher. ??? I too am surprised at how high they placed! Starting to second guess my lock predictions a bit here!
1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. LOCK
4. Probably not
5. Nope
6. LOCK
7. LOCK
8. LOCK
9. Van Halen
10. Nope
11. Mastodon
12. Spock's Beard
13. Nope
14. Nope
15. Between the Buried and Me
16. Nope
17. Avenged Sevenfold
18. Opeth
19. Nope
20. Tool
21. Coheed & Cambria
22. LOCK
23. Absolutely nope
24. Nope
25. Megadeth
31. Kiss
34. Queen
38. Transatlantic
79. Black Sabbath
85. Yes
92. Fates Warning
LOCK prediction count: 2/9
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I never really got into Fates Warning.
I know they are foundational to the genre, but frankly I am flabbergasted that they made the Top 25, especially as high as they did. I mean, I don't know, that's really a surprise to me.
This x1000.
I did like the song TAC sent me a few months ago, The Light and Shade of Things.
Not TAC. Me. :biggrin:
This isn't Tim's alt??
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gotta be honest i never heard of fates warning
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I get the sense that FW are maybe more for old school metal and prog-metal fans, and people who are more into modern stuff might not dig them as much. I think back in the late 90s/early 00s when I first frequented DT related message boards they would have been an obvious top 10 band for a lot of people, but they don’t seem to be talked about as much here these days.
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Steven Wilson
NR Devin Townsend
NR Tool
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Opeth
NR Nightwish
NR Megadeth
NR Mastodon
NR Katatonia
NR Judas Priest
NR Helloween
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Fates Warning
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
30 Transatlantic (The Whirlwind, Bridge Across Forever, The Absolute Universe)
26 Van Halen (Fair Warning, A Different Kind Of Truth, 1984)
25 Sadly, not a shot
24 Sadly, not a shot
23 Given
22 Queen (Queen II; Innuendo; A Kind Of Magic)
21 Given
20 Given
19 Probably not; they are a classic, but don't seem to get much love here
18 Sadly, not a shot
17 Sadly, not a shot
16 Given
15 Probably not; it's an offshoot of another band here and it won't likely make the grade
14 Sadly, not a shot
13 Sadly, not a shot
12 Neal Morse. (And yes, I lumped.). (Innocence and Danger; The Grand Experiment; TSOAD)
11 Black Sabbath (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sabotage, Heaven and Hell)
10 Sadly, not a shot
9 Given
8 Probably not; his more popular (here) incarnation already appeared
7 Given
6 Marillion (Clutching At Straws, Misplaced Childhood, Brave)
5 Yes (Going For The One, Fragile, Close To The Edge)
4 Given
3. Kiss (Rock And Roll Over; Creatures Of The Night; Hotter Than Hell)
2 Given
1 Given
Nope. I liked Matheos' work on the first OSI record, but everything I've heard from FW doesn't move the boat.
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Ha! Fates Warning - I thought they might still have a chance, but I also worried we were getting a little too high in the rankings for them to show up now.
I have them in my top 10 (#6 to be precise). Fantastic band. My sweet spot with them is Perfect Symmetry/Parallels/Inside Out, with Parallels edging it out, but not by much. The dual guitar work on that record is one of my favorite ever, and Zonder's drumming is out of this world. Perfect Symmetry was actually the very first of their albums I've heard, and it wasn't a hit right away (not surprisingly, as it's not the easiest nut to crack). It's obviously gotten better and better (and better) over time.
Much more of a fan of the Alder era, although I have to say doing the song countdown here made me regain a new appreciation for the Arch records. Awaken the Guardian is for sure a special album, one of a kind in style and approach. APSOG follows the the aforementioned "magic" trio in my ranking and then, to my own surprise, Theories of Flight is currently slotted in my top 5 for the band. Truly one of the best late-career album in any discography in my book. Especially coming after two good-but-not-amazing records like FWX and Darkness (imo). Their final (?) record Long Day Good Night wasn't quite as satisfying, but by no means a bad one.
Anyway, for me, one of the true greats in progressive metal.
25 Nope, especially at this point
24 Opeth (16)
23 Mastodon (23)
22 No Way
21 Thought they had a chance, but probably not at this point
20 Judas Priest (17)
19 I guess not
18 Evergrey (43)
17 Anathema (36)
16 Pain of Salvation (26)
15 I guess not
14 Nope
13 Thought they might have a shot, but no
12 Lock?
11 Nope
10 Marillion (18)
9 Katatonia (39)
8 I thought maaaaaybe, but not at this point
7 Nope
6 Fates Warning (12)
5 Lock?
4 Lock?
3 Nope
2 Lock
1 Lock
5/14 in the top 25 so far, 9/40 in the top 50
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Ha! Fates Warning ... My sweet spot with them is Perfect Symmetry/Parallels/Inside Out, with Parallels edging it out, but not by much.
Parallels is probably a Top 100 album for me, and Fates Warning have a lot of good stuff, but I've never really considered my self wicked into them.
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gotta be honest i never heard of fates warning
:o
Respectfully of course and to each our own, but do find that surprising on a Dream Theater board is all. Check them out, who knows may well be to your liking and I'd recommend Parallels and Theories Of Flight as great places to start ;)
I was also shocked at not having Fates in my own Top10 where expected them to be but checking my list seems only had them at #16. Regardless, exceptional stuff and thrilled they made the Top12 :metal
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Fates at number 20 for me......probably should have been a bit higher looking at my list.
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gotta be honest i never heard of fates warning
You should probably start with the song Life in Still Water.
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Almost to the top 10
11. Haken
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I'm not surprised to see Haken on the list but I'm a little surprised to see them place as high as they did. I want to like Haken, but the only barrier is Ross. I just can't get into his voice. I am going to see them early next year so hopefully a live show will change my opinion.
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Almost to the top 10
11. Haken
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I'm not surprised to see Haken on the list but I'm a little surprised to see them place as high as they did. I want to like Haken, but the only barrier is Ross. I just can't get into his voice. I am going to see them early next year so hopefully a live show will change my opinion.
A great example of why I LOVE this forum and keep coming back–I tried, and tried and then, I stopped trying to get into Haken back when The Mountain dropped.
But, it was a couple of super well-written posts on this very forum that compelled me to give them another try, and now they are 12th on my all-time list!
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Haken is at #7 for me.
I figured they'd make the list, glad to see them on here. They are my highest-ranked band to debut post-2000. Have seen them live nine times, and will add two more in early 2024.
The Mountain was my introduction to the band, and the first show I saw was a really interesting bill in Detroit -- Tiles, Imminent Sonic Destruction, Next to None (with Max Portnoy), and Haken. Mike Portnoy was there and played a Rush cover with Tiles. Then Haken was amazing, despite the fact that Richard Henshall wasn't in attendance due to visa issues. I was all in on the band from that point forward.
I think Affinity is a masterpiece. It's a top-10 album for me all time by any band. One of those great albums that takes you on a journey from start to finish, covering a whole bunch of different musical styles and moods along the way. Visions might be my second favorite -- even if it's a bit derivative, it's executed to near-perfection. Restoration is great, and Fauna is holding my attention more than Vector/Virus did.
Minor complaints: they're not the liveliest live band, and because of the way they do sound, if you're close to the stage the mix isn't always great.
25. (no chance)
24. (no chance)
23. (LOCK)
22. (no chance)
21. (not likely)
20. (no chance)
19. Peter Gabriel
18. (no chance)
17. (no chance)
16. (no chance)
15. (not likely)
14. (probably in)
13. Yes
12. (no chance)
11. (probably in)
10. (not likely)
9. (not likely)
8. (not likely)
7. Haken
6. (probably in)
5. (LOCK)
4. Spock's Beard
3. Transatlantic
2. (LOCK)
1. (not likely)
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Fates Warning weren’t on my list, but I do like a lot of their music. They are my brother’s favorite band, and he got into them kind of at the same time I was getting into DT, so there was kind of a rivalry there and I didn’t love them as much as appreciate them.
I’ve only recently gotten around to collecting the albums that I really liked from them, which is mostly Parallels and Inside Out, but A Pleasant Shade of Gray and Perfect Symmetry have their moments too. Parallels is up there in the mix for best prog metal album of all time probably.
I really struggle with the John Arch era, and don’t get as much out of their recent material, so they didn’t really get consideration for my top 25. But that Parralels-Inside Out lineup of the band was top notch.
This post brings back so many great memories of 'arguments' in the small prog/metal community I grew up in/around. There was the DT camp, FW camp, Watchtower camp, King Diamond camp, even Crimson Glory after the Transcendence album. I didn't submit a list, but FW would have probably wound up at #2 for me. Depending on my mood, them and DT will occupy the #1 spot. So good to see them coming in so high - they're a band that I go all in on when I revisit them.
I am really hoping DT can find a way to go out w MP the way FW (apparently) went out with ToF and LDGN - two of the strongest albums in their long career.
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Agreed with Reaper, and this will likely be the consensus for all people that did not rate Haken.... Ross makes them unlistenable. Plus, I find they get overly wanky in their technicality - like they're extremely over the top in their musicianship and proficiency and talent... just because they can be. I find the writing suffers, and so much of their music lacks cohesion and sounds disjointed.
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Steven Wilson
NR Devin Townsend
NR Tool
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Opeth
NR Nightwish
NR Megadeth
NR Mastodon
NR Katatonia
NR Judas Priest
NR Helloween
NR Haken
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Fates Warning
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
30 Transatlantic (The Whirlwind, Bridge Across Forever, The Absolute Universe)
26 Van Halen (Fair Warning, A Different Kind Of Truth, 1984)
25 Sadly, not a shot
24 Sadly, not a shot
23 Given
22 Queen (Queen II; Innuendo; A Kind Of Magic)
21 Given
20 Given
19 Probably not; they are a classic, but don't seem to get much love here
18 Sadly, not a shot
17 Sadly, not a shot
16 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
15 Probably not; it's an offshoot of another band here and it won't likely make the grade
14 Sadly, not a shot
13 Sadly, not a shot
12 Neal Morse. (And yes, I lumped.). (Innocence and Danger; The Grand Experiment; TSOAD)
11 Black Sabbath (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sabotage, Heaven and Hell)
10 Sadly, not a shot
9 Given
8 Probably not; his more popular (here) incarnation already appeared
7 Given
6 Marillion (Clutching At Straws, Misplaced Childhood, Brave)
5 Yes (Going For The One, Fragile, Close To The Edge)
4 Given
3. Kiss (Rock And Roll Over; Creatures Of The Night; Hotter Than Hell)
2 Given
1 Given
I WANT to like Halen so badly; they seem like great guys, they are monster players (I loved the Shattered Fortress show) and while Ross isn't my favorite, he's not unlistenable.... I just listen to the music and nothing grabs me. I'm an emotional listener - I don't think about whether I like something, I just sort of feel it - and I just don't feel any. I almost feel bad about that, because I know they're putting in the effort. :)
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Affinity is great, but I too struggle with Ross’s voice and haven’t connected with any of their other music. I had meant to check out their newest but still haven’t gotten around to it.
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Haken (my #16) is amazing and managed being very original in the prog metal scene. I think they really found their sound with The Mountain and made a masterpiece! I think Affinity is also so impressive as Mountain, I still can't choose my fave between the 2. I think it's a very brave band that really takes risks in making very different albums from one another, making some experimentation with their sound. Well, Ross voice's tone is a bit of a acquired taste, no doubt. Very strong discography and I'm happy to have at least 1 band from the 2010's (2 in fact) in my top 25!
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So, either Deep Purple is a lock for top 10 or I'm vanishing again?
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#20 for me. Love em, but kinda surprised to see them this high.
Aquarius and Visions are both kinda meh
The Mountain and Affinifty are God-tier
Vector, Virus, and Fauna are all just ok
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Haken had been making a solid charge up my favorite bands/artists list thanks to their first four albums, all of which are pretty great to varying degrees, but an uneven fifth album and total stumbles on albums six and seven have made them fall back down the mountain a bit, pun intended. They wouldn't have made my top 25, but I suspect they would've been in one of the next few groupings after that.
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I'm a fan of Haken, but they barely missed my Top 25. Based purely on their first 4 albums + the EP I would have had them on my Top 25. But they've kind of lost me a little on the last few albums.
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Almost to the top 10
11. Haken
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I'm not surprised to see Haken on the list but I'm a little surprised to see them place as high as they did. I want to like Haken, but the only barrier is Ross. I just can't get into his voice. I am going to see them early next year so hopefully a live show will change my opinion.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
NR Tool
NR Black Sabbath
NR Judas Priest
NR Opeth
NR Van Halen
NR Fates Warning
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
26 Queen
25 ?
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20 Riverside
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14 Steven Wilson
13 Yes
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10 Ayreon
09 Haken
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07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
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03 Transatlantic
02
01 Big Big Train
Haken placed 9th for me, so not too far off from the countdown placement. They've quickly become one of my favorites in the past decade since I discovered them. Oddly enough, I put in Ross' solo album last night as I was sleeping.
I've got 6 of my top 10 in so far, and I have a strong feeling three of the remaining four will make the Top ten.
-Marc.
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It's awesome seeing a more recent band almost entering the top ten. :tup
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So, either Deep Purple is a lock for top 10 or I'm vanishing again?
Not to foreshadow, but they are one of my "Givens" on my list. I'm either calling nine out of the next ten or I need to revisit some of my givens. And man, if I do, that's a sad state of affairs all around. It's not like I was unreasonable with my assessment (Cheap Trick and Night Ranger did not get "GIVENS". :) :) :) :) :) :)).
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So, either Deep Purple is a lock for top 10 or I'm vanishing again?
Fare well man.
Haken is a strong top ten, probably would've had them at 5 or 6.
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So, either Deep Purple is a lock for top 10 or I'm vanishing again?
Not to foreshadow, but they are one of my "Givens" on my list. I'm either calling nine out of the next ten or I need to revisit some of my givens. And man, if I do, that's a sad state of affairs all around. It's not like I was unreasonable with my assessment (Cheap Trick and Night Ranger did not get "GIVENS". :) :) :) :) :) :)).
I'm quite surprised you would consider DP a "given". You're not new around here. :lol I figure there are two "classic" bands still to come, and I'm not even certain about that. I'd be surprised if it was only 1, and mostly stunned if it was 0 - but wouldn't be entirely shocked. I never underestimate DTF's ability to surprise me.
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There are several classic bands I am certain are not making it at this point, but the most classic of all I have a feeling might get snubbed.
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Haken is one i just got into this year. Not on my list yet as they're mostly new to me but i'm excited to see them in February! :metal
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There are several classic bands I am certain are not making it at this point, but the most classic of all I have a feeling might get snubbed.
I'm starting to feel that too. And as much as I love Kiss - and I LOVE Kiss - that's a shame.
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So, either Deep Purple is a lock for top 10 or I'm vanishing again?
Not to foreshadow, but they are one of my "Givens" on my list. I'm either calling nine out of the next ten or I need to revisit some of my givens. And man, if I do, that's a sad state of affairs all around. It's not like I was unreasonable with my assessment (Cheap Trick and Night Ranger did not get "GIVENS". :) :) :) :) :) :)).
I'm quite surprised you would consider DP a "given". You're not new around here. :lol I figure there are two "classic" bands still to come, and I'm not even certain about that. I'd be surprised if it was only 1, and mostly stunned if it was 0 - but wouldn't be entirely shocked. I never underestimate DTF's ability to surprise me.
No, fair point. I probably SHOULD know better. :) Maybe I'll change that on my next posting. I just figured given the coverage of Made In Japan, and their CLEAR influence on the "metal" side of the progressive metal genre (Bruce Dickinson often cites "In Rock" as THE album that set him on his course) that it might get a sentimental nod... I guess that's where the fail is. This is the least sentimental crowd I've ever hung around with. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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I was confident of the top 10, but now I can say I'm only really confident 6 of that 10 are gonna make it. Crazy to see which bands won't even be making the top 50! No chance Deep Purple are making this now, not with other glaring omissions.
:corn
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There are several classic bands I am certain are not making it at this point, but the most classic of all I have a feeling might get snubbed.
I'm starting to feel that too. And as much as I love Kiss - and I LOVE Kiss - that's a shame.
Actually, looking at the list I did the other day of remaining bands, there are 11 left for 10 spots and one of them is Deep Purple and one of them is the “most classic of all,” so I’d guess one of those two makes it.
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Yeah, I don't think Deep Purple will make it.
Missed a couple of updates, here we go:
25. Judas Priest
24.
23.
22. Fates Warning
21.
20. Opeth
19.
18. Evergrey
17. Katatonia
16. Riverside
15. Helloween
14.
13.
12.
11. Pain of Salvation
10.
9. Steven Wilson
8.
7. Nightwish
6. Haken
5.
4.
3.
2.
1. Ayreon
I had Steven Wilson at #9, and I did not lump Porcupine Tree with him (they were a separate entry on my list)—that's how highly I regard his solo work. He has an incredible run of albums up to The Future Bites. Saw him live on HCE tour, then twice on TTB tour (in Hamburg with a VIP ticket nd then in Moscow, got two different versions of the setlist). Would've loved seeing him touring with Porcupine Tree, oh well.
Fates Warning just made my list. They have lots of good stuff but whenever I want to listen to FW I always go for Theories of Flight. Still not tired of that album. Never got to see them live and probably never will now.
Haken, what can I say that hasn't been said already? Saw them live on their Vector tour (Vectour?) in Hamburg (I think one day after seeing SW) and did a meet and greet too. There were five of us for the meet and greet and we had ~15 minutes with the band, mostly chatted with Ross but they were all very friendly and down-to-Earth guys. Unfortunately the setlist had Crystallised (I don't care for that song) but did not have Celestial Elixir (would've been amazing to witness that live). But I was front row and it was a total blast still.
I've got three more bands on my list that I think will make it, which means my #3, #4 and #8 won't make it, and that's a total crime—I expected them to appear in the Top 50 at least.
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Still at 9
Haken
I have some of their albums and like them quite a bit.
But not enough to get them on my top 25.
Saw them as part of Mike Portnoy's Shattered Fortress which was really cool but haven't seen Haken live.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Haken
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24
23
22
21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
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19 Steven Wilson (favorite album: The Raven That Refused To Sing, favorite song: The Raven That Refused To Sing)
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
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16
15 Yes (Favorite album: Close to the Edge, favorite song:Roundabout)
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
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10
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8
7
6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
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4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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There are several classic bands I am certain are not making it at this point, but the most classic of all I have a feeling might get snubbed.
I'm starting to feel that too. And as much as I love Kiss - and I LOVE Kiss - that's a shame.
Kiss made the list, well extended list, they were #30: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3049918#msg3049918
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I have high hopes that my #1 will be in the Top 10, they're such a huge and massively influential band not to be - even here on DTF.
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I have high hopes that my #1 will be in the Top 10, they're such a huge and massively influential band not to be - even here on DTF.
They are in my predicted top 10 for sure.
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I have high hopes that my #1 will be in the Top 10, they're such a huge and massively influential band not to be - even here on DTF.
They are in my predicted top 10 for sure.
Same.
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I have high hopes that my #1 will be in the Top 10, they're such a huge and massively influential band not to be - even here on DTF.
I think I see what you did there, but time will tell.
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It looks like 22 out of my 25 will not make this list, but I'm totally okay with it–I don't come here for mono-culture ;D
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I like Haken a lot, and I'm not surprised that they made the list, but this seems way too high. I mean, I don't know.
They probably would have made my list in the #25 range, if at all.
I WANT to like Halen so badly; they seem like great guys, they are monster players (I loved the Shattered Fortress show) and while Ross isn't my favorite, he's not unlistenable.... I just listen to the music and nothing grabs me. I'm an emotional listener - I don't think about whether I like something, I just sort of feel it - and I just don't feel any. I almost feel bad about that, because I know they're putting in the effort. :)
Have you given their album The Mountain a shot? If not, I recommend that one.
If you have, then they just may not be for you.
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Haken's nice but I'm definitely not as into them as a lot of people on here are. I bet they'd rank even higher if a few more people submitted lists, honestly. :biggrin:
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Haken's nice but I'm definitely not as into them as a lot of people on here are. I bet they'd rank even higher if a few more people submitted lists, honestly. :biggrin:
Nick would've likely had them Top 3; definitely Top 5.
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Catching up again:
Fates should have been on my list, but I checked and they were a bit lower than I thought! Anyway, I like a lot of their stuff, and if it weren't for them, I wouldn't have discovered Dream Theater!
Haken, I had at 23. I'm not a huge fan of the first two records, and Virus was ultra "meh" for me, but The Mountain, Affinity, Vector, and Fauna are all killer.
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I know two Haken songs from my 2nd roulette, Sempiternal Beings and The Endless Knot, the former gets stuck in my head even this morning before seeing they were the band for today. I really like those songs and need to explore them when my roulette is over.
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Moving onto number 12, think it was supposed to be spelled Fatez guys.
12. Fates Warning
So says some band called Dream Theatre.
My #3 band, and I was honestly getting a little worried. I've told the story many times about how I discovered FW as a result of a snippet on MTV about "other bands you might like if you like Queensryche). I bought No Exit and found The Ivory Gate of Dreams, which was a more metal and more advanced version of 2112 (not that it was derivative, but int he sense of a side long, multi-part epic). They had a brief fade in the early 2000s but bounced back with a vengeance in 2013. So much great material!
11. Haken
No surprise here. I've heard a handful of songs, and there's a spark, but nothing that really grabbed my interest.
1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. Fates Warning (12) (I'll be very sad if they don't make the list. I'm guessing if they aren't one of the next few picks we won't see them.)
4. LOCK
5. Yes (15) (LOCK)
6. Judas Priest (17) (Slightly better than 50/50)
7. Probably (75%+)
8. At this point, I think there's no chance.
9. See #8
10. No way, eh?
11. Probably 90%+
12. LOCK
13. Helloween (38)
14. UFO (42)
15. I think they're probably a lock, but 17 or higher seems surprising to me
16. LOCK
17. At this point, I'm going to say no better than a 20% chance - surprisingly underrated around here
18. See #17
19. Black Sabbath (20)
20. Not a chance
21. I'm probably the only one to submit this artist
22. See #17
23. Probably?
24. Scorpions (46T)
25. See #17
Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeath, Riverside, KISS, Ayreon, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Pain of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed & Cambria, Mastodon, Queen, Tool, Transatlantic, Marillion, Opeth, Van Halen (36), Steven Wilson, Haken
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I'm also in the camp of people who enjoy Haken instrumentally, but find their vocals to be a deterrent to liking them more than I do. They have one of my more fun stories though. One of the venues in my area went as "Empire" for the last few years it was around. The very last show ever at the venue was Haken headlining, with guests of Next To None, Iris Divine, A Sound of Thunder, and possibly another or two. For the encore Portnoy joined Haken to perform Metallica's "Fade To Black" and Queensryche's "Empire". At one point Mike and Max walked right past me in the venue. I should have said something, but I was too stunned.
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I'm also in the camp of people who enjoy Haken instrumentally, but find their vocals to be a deterrent to liking them more than I do. They have one of my more fun stories though. One of the venues in my area went as "Empire" for the last few years it was around. The very last show ever at the venue was Haken headlining, with guests of Next To None, Iris Divine, A Sound of Thunder, and possibly another or two. For the encore Portnoy joined Haken to perform Metallica's "Fade To Black" and Queensryche's "Empire". At one point Mike and Max walked right past me in the venue. I should have said something, but I was too stunned.
That used to be Jaxx Nightclub or something like that, right? I saw Neal Morse there back in 2011.
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Yep. Would have gone there much more regularly if I realized they weren't going to last indefinitely.
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I have high hopes that my #1 will be in the Top 10, they're such a huge and massively influential band not to be - even here on DTF.
I think I see what you did there, but time will tell.
I'd rest easy. I have no doubt they'll make the final cut.
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I like the vocals on Sempiternal Beings. I don't recall disliking them on The Endless Knot either. What's the complaint?
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I like the vocals on Sempiternal Beings. I don't recall disliking them on The Endless Knot either. What's the complaint?
He's just got one of those voices that some people like and some people don't. Like Geddy Lee, or James LaBrie, or even Billy Corgan.
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Haken came in at number 434567653466 on my list.
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I like the vocals on Sempiternal Beings. I don't recall disliking them on The Endless Knot either. What's the complaint?
He's just got one of those voices that some people like and some people don't. Like Geddy Lee, or James LaBrie, or even Billy Corgan.
I really like the D’Virgilio, Morse & Jennings project, but even there when Ross has a lead I wince a little. Just something unusual and off putting about the sound of his voice.
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I like the vocals on Sempiternal Beings. I don't recall disliking them on The Endless Knot either. What's the complaint?
He's just got one of those voices that some people like and some people don't. Like Geddy Lee, or James LaBrie, or even Billy Corgan.
I really like the D’Virgilio, Morse & Jennings project, but even there when Ross has a lead I wince a little. Just something unusual and off putting about the sound of his voice.
Yes! Exactly. I usually smash the skip button on the songs his fronts.
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Haken were NR for me, but they were very close to making the top 25. Certainly very high in my list of favorite bands that released their debut 2010 or later.
Affinity is my favorite album of theirs - a delicious slab of prog metal that's both modern and unafraid of showing their 80s influences. Fantastic melodies all around.
Looking at what's likely to come in the top 10...I have 8 names that I'm basically sure will show up (five of which are in my list). Then one I'm thinking as very likely. For the remaining slot - I guess there is another classic name that'll make it. If that's indeed the case, though, I can't say I would've predicted a top 10 for it.
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I have high hopes that my #1 will be in the Top 10, they're such a huge and massively influential band not to be - even here on DTF.
I think I see what you did there, but time will tell.
I'd rest easy. I have no doubt they'll make the final cut.
Hope so. I could change my mind on the turning away.
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25. Between the Buried and Me
20. Avenged Sevenfold
17. Spocks Beard
15. Opeth
14. Ayreon
13. Haken
12. Marillion
11. Steven Wilson
9. The Dear Hunter
8. Big Big Train
6. Pain of Salvation
4. Neal Morse
3. Transatlantic
Haken and SW both made my list in the same places as the collective list, but reversed!
I don't perfectly gel with everything Steven puts out but when he hits he hits hard. Raven and HCE are both among my favorite records ever, huge respect for the man as a songwriter.
Haken places this highly mainly on the strength of their early stuff for me, I'm a big Aquarius fan. I like all their albums though, they are very consistent even if their peaks are not as high these days imo.
I'm very happy that it looks like my #1 will reach top 10, good job DTF! Unless they are snubbed of course, but I'm not ready to believe that yet.
As for the remaining 10 I would say I have 8 locks and a guess for the remaining 2. That doesn't include DP though which I totally forgot until it was discussed here so we'll see how it goes. :lol
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Haken came in at number 434567653466 on my list.
That high? You must be going soft. :biggrin:
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Haken came in at number 434567653466 on my list.
That high? You must be going soft. :biggrin:
You called me what now?.......
Seriously though.....maybe I did leave off a few 0's. :biggrin:
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I need some coolin' heading into the Top 10
10. Led Zeppelin
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One of my other favorite threads on this form is jingle's Led Zeppelin discography thread (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41957.0). Growing up Led Zeppelin was always kind of there and because I heard the same round of hits on classic rock radio I never felt compelled to explore deeper. Within the past year I stumbled upon some pretty amazing Heart covers of LZ's music which gave me the itch to take a true deep dive in their catalog. Following Jingle's thread I went through and listened through the discography. I enjoyed it, a lot more than I thought I would've. LZ personally placed 26 on my list, I really struggled with their placing because I do find some of their stuff inconsistent, but regardless a mounmental band.
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I really should love this band considering my main genre is classic rock from the 60s and 70s. I enjoy many tracks scattered around their discography, but not quite enough to put them on my Top 25.
I really need to do a deep dive into their albums one day, I owe it to myself.
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Steven Wilson
NR Devin Townsend
NR Tool
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Opeth
NR Nightwish
NR Megadeth
NR Mastodon
NR Katatonia
NR Judas Priest
NR Helloween
NR Haken
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Fates Warning
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
30 Transatlantic (The Whirlwind, Bridge Across Forever, The Absolute Universe)
26 Van Halen (Fair Warning, A Different Kind Of Truth, 1984)
25 Sadly, not a shot
24 Sadly, not a shot
23 Given
22 Queen (Queen II; Innuendo; A Kind Of Magic)
21 Given
20 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
19 Probably not; they are a classic, but don't seem to get much love here
18 Sadly, not a shot
17 Sadly, not a shot
16 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
15 Probably not; it's an offshoot of another band here and it won't likely make the grade
14 Sadly, not a shot
13 Sadly, not a shot
12 Neal Morse. (And yes, I lumped.). (Innocence and Danger; The Grand Experiment; TSOAD)
11 Black Sabbath (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sabotage, Heaven and Hell)
10 Sadly, not a shot
9 Given
8 Probably not; his more popular (here) incarnation already appeared
7 Given
6 Marillion (Clutching At Straws, Misplaced Childhood, Brave)
5 Yes (Going For The One, Fragile, Close To The Edge)
4 Led Zeppelin (Physical Graffiti, IV, How The West Was Won)
3. Kiss (Rock And Roll Over; Creatures Of The Night; Hotter Than Hell)
2 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
1 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
I had Zep as a given. I mean, C'mon. Except for one other band, no one has influenced the bands we listen to here more. I think the thing I love most about Zeppelin is that they never had a period where... they were lost. There's no disco records, no grunge records, they just did what they did at the highest levels. I look back at their catalogue, and while not EVERY song is "Stairway To Heaven", the number of clunkers - even including the rarities/odds and sods record - is literally on one hand. What's the worst song on II? IV? Even Physical Graffiti, a double. It's hard.
I've also come to really respect them live. No, not every night was a winner, but they were looking for something more, and when they found it, when Zep was in full flight, there was no one better. My single greatest concert experience was Page and Plant in New Jersey, during "The Song Remains The Same"; I've written about it before. It was literally an out-of-body experience.
Oh, and edited my givens to a more tempered outlook. ;) Though I'm 1-1 in the top ten.
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10. Led Zeppelin
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Number of top 10 finishes: 6
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One of my other favorite threads on this form is jingle's Led Zeppelin discography thread (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41957.0). Growing up Led Zeppelin was always kind of there and because I heard the same round of hits on classic rock radio I never felt compelled to explore deeper. Within the past year I stumbled upon some pretty amazing Heart covers of LZ's music which gave me the itch to take a true deep dive in their catalog. Following Jingle's thread I went through and listened through the discography. I enjoyed it, a lot more than I thought I would've. LZ personally placed 26 on my list, I really struggled with their placing because I do find some of their stuff inconsistent, but regardless a mounmental band.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
NR Tool
NR Black Sabbath
NR Judas Priest
NR Opeth
NR Van Halen
NR Fates Warning
NR Led Zeppelin
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
26 Queen
25 ?
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20 Riverside
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14 Steven Wilson
13 Yes
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10 Ayreon
09 Haken
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07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
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03 Transatlantic
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01 Big Big Train
I really enjoy LZ but I didn't consider them for my top 30. I'm sure if I made a top 50 that they would make it. Houses Of The Holy remains my favorite of theirs, though the two on either side are really good too.
-Marc.
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i like and respect LZ but they've never been a favorite of mine. the stuff from them i like best is the live material as stadler said. that is really where they shined (IMO)
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LZ has never been one of my top tier favorites, but I still love them. They would've made my top 25, but would have been near the bottom. I suspect I'd probably listen to them more on my own if they hadn't been so overplayed back in the day when I listened to classic rock radio.
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Steven Wilson
NR Devin Townsend
NR Tool
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Opeth
NR Nightwish
NR Megadeth
NR Mastodon
NR Katatonia
NR Judas Priest
NR Helloween
NR Haken
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Fates Warning
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
30 Transatlantic (The Whirlwind, Bridge Across Forever, The Absolute Universe)
26 Van Halen (Fair Warning, A Different Kind Of Truth, 1984)
25 Sadly, not a shot
24 Sadly, not a shot
23 Given
22 Queen (Queen II; Innuendo; A Kind Of Magic)
21 Given
20 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
19 Probably not; they are a classic, but don't seem to get much love here
18 Sadly, not a shot
17 Sadly, not a shot
16 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
15 Probably not; it's an offshoot of another band here and it won't likely make the grade
14 Sadly, not a shot
13 Sadly, not a shot
12 Neal Morse. (And yes, I lumped.). (Innocence and Danger; The Grand Experiment; TSOAD)
11 Black Sabbath (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sabotage, Heaven and Hell)
10 Sadly, not a shot
9 Given
8 Probably not; his more popular (here) incarnation already appeared
7 Given
6 Marillion (Clutching At Straws, Misplaced Childhood, Brave)
5 Yes (Going For The One, Fragile, Close To The Edge)
4 Led Zeppelin (Physical Graffiti, IV, How The West Was Won)
3. Kiss (Rock And Roll Over; Creatures Of The Night; Hotter Than Hell)
2 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
1 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
I had Zep as a given. I mean, C'mon. Except for one other band, no one has influenced the bands we listen to here more. I think the thing I love most about Zeppelin is that they never had a period where... they were lost. There's no disco records, no grunge records, they just did what they did at the highest levels. I look back at their catalogue, and while not EVERY song is "Stairway To Heaven", the number of clunkers - even including the rarities/odds and sods record - is literally on one hand. What's the worst song on II? IV? Even Physical Graffiti, a double. It's hard.
I've also come to really respect them live. No, not every night was a winner, but they were looking for something more, and when they found it, when Zep was in full flight, there was no one better. My single greatest concert experience was Page and Plant in New Jersey, during "The Song Remains The Same"; I've written about it before. It was literally an out-of-body experience.
Oh, and edited my givens to a more tempered outlook. ;) Though I'm 1-1 in the top ten.
I'm glad your post drew attention to the live album, How the West Was Won.
For most of my youth, my perception of Zeppelin's live prowess was limited to The Song Remains the Same movie (which I rented and watched over and over).
Admittedly, Zeppelin is 'good,' but not 'great' for much of that show. While I had nothing to compare it to, I often wondered about the 'mighy' Led Zeppelin's live peak that would read about on message boards and in chat rooms (hey, it was the late '90s).
The BBC Sessions (released 1997) gave a good hint, but those performances were the band in their infancy.
Then, one day in early 2003, when I was managing a local record store, a rep came in with mile-wide grin on his face. John was an older guy who'd been repping artists since the mid-'70s. Our bond was over classic rock, and by that point, I was deep into collecting bootlegs.
We often swapped CDr's, and when it came to Zeppelin, I'd heard a few 'great' shows, but the quality was always suspect.
But when John walked in that day, I knew he had something...what I didn't know was that that 'something' would wind up being one of, if not the best live albums I would ever hear.
Long story short...my man handed me a super- 'hush hush' copy of How the West Was Won. I spent the next few months playing the hell out of those three discs. I'll never forget him telling me to cue it up on the store system..."just play a few second...you gotta hear this!"
He wanted me to listen to "Immigrant Song," and more specifically, the big fill Bonham does in the intro.
John was a cool dude...he soon lost his job to a corporate consolidation, and I lost touch, but if he's still alive, I hope he's still hunting for bootlegs.
Anyway...for anyone who might want to widen and deepen their appreciation of Zeppelin, I cannot recommend How the West Was Won more. :metal
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Zeppelin are not on my top 25 and didn’t get any consideration, but I do appreciate them for their place in rock music and just for being massively influential.
I think for people of my age who weren’t around when the band were still going, you probably grew up being inundated by the band on classic rock radio, and you maybe either love them or hate em. I had sort of the later reaction just in terms of feeling like “what’s the big deal?” But I did always think songs like Stairway were cool, and enjoyed a number of other songs as well. Definitely appreciate when they are being more proggy and adventurous as opposed to the bluesy rock stuff which I really don’t care for.
I ended up picking up In Through The Out Door (the only LZ album I own) after checking out songs on the recent LZ countdown, and that one is really good. All of My Love has always been a favorite from them (might still be my favorite).
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Led Zeppelin is awesome. They would have been at the very least Top 5 for me.
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Thanks for the shoutout Kay.
Not much else to say that I didn't cover in the discog discussion. Black Dog was THE seminal song in my music life that quite literally, changed not only my musical life, but my life in general. Now, it's no longer even a Top 10 LZ song for me, but it was *the* song that mattered most.
To Bill's point about never 'loosing their way', I'd argue that they were about to... if not for Bonham's death. ITTOD was starting to take them down a path much different than their history up to that point. I dare say that Bonham's death actually benefited the legacy and lore of Led Zeppelin. Had he lived on, I could see a situation where the band implodes or breaks up (Page was a control freak, and way fucked up during the ITTOD sessions and shows). The band was starting to crack, and it's possible they might not have remained as the four of them moving forward into the 80s. But, who knows.
Everything up to PG is top shelf material (with the odd clunker); Presence and ITTOD have their charms and reasons to be loved, but definitely the second tier (despite Presence being the only album to hit #1 in the Billboard charts).
I got my 4 symbols tattoo at 18 years old, cementing them as my favorite band of all-time. The were the most influential band in my listening experience, and will always be my #1.
@William ... good call out on the posthumous live releases. They were the tits. I remember hearing the BBC sessions for the first time and all :omg:
@HOF ... you're probably spot on. There's probably a clear delineation between people who experienced them in the 70s/80s vs 90s and later. I don't know all 14 users that voted for them, but there's a clear fogey presence - even without King/Hef/lonestar's votes.
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Great choice. :tup
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Definitely would've made my list, but my favorites has always been there more sublime works, specifically Going to California and Battle of Evermore
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Did not have Zeppelin on my list. I think HOF is spot on. I like some of their songs whenever I listen to them, but they weren't an influence on me in my teenage years.
Definitely expected to see them on this list though.
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Definitely would've made my list, but my favorites has always been there more sublime works, specifically Going to California and Battle of Evermore
Battle of Evermore is my fave Zeppelin song, and Top 5 of all-time.
:hifive:
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Definitely would've made my list, but my favorites has always been there more sublime works, specifically Going to California and Battle of Evermore
Battle of Evermore is my fave Zeppelin song, and Top 5 of all-time.
:hifive:
I know I've shared this with you, but for everyone else, easily the best Zeppelin cover ever...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogw15jdM_Yc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogw15jdM_Yc)
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Led Zeppelin is great, but didn't make my list. There have been times where I've been obsessed with them, but I haven't felt that way in years.
Rain Song will always be one of my favorite things to play on guitar.
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Still at 9
Led Zeppelin
Never been a fan. I like songs I have heard but not enough to investigate further.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Haken, Led Zeppelin
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21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
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19 Steven Wilson (favorite album: The Raven That Refused To Sing, favorite song: The Raven That Refused To Sing)
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
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15 Yes (Favorite album: Close to the Edge, favorite song:Roundabout)
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
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6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
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4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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I acknowledge Zep's talent and influence, but they didn't quite make my top 25. Probably top 35. I'm not really a blues-rock guy, and they did an immense amount of plagiarism which turns me off a little.
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What I think is kind of funny/ironic is that I think Zeppelin were a huge influence on both the 80s hard rock/hair metal scene (maybe more in terms of the looks, but a lot of those bands borrowed musically from them as well), and the 90s grunge/alt rock scene (maybe from more of a musical standpoint). Those two scenes couldn’t have been more opposite otherwise.
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I didn't have Zep ranked. I respect them heavily, and they are, without a doubt, highly influential. My Dad was a big Zep fan. He got to see them in 1968 opening for The Iron Butterfly. I would argue that the secret to their success was not Page and Plant, it was John Paul Jones and Bonham. Those two were perhaps the best bass and drums duo of all time, and that gave Page and Plant the ability to do what they did.
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Definitely would've made my list, but my favorites has always been there more sublime works, specifically Going to California and Battle of Evermore
Battle of Evermore is my fave Zeppelin song, and Top 5 of all-time.
:hifive:
I know I've shared this with you, but for everyone else, easily the best Zeppelin cover ever...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogw15jdM_Yc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogw15jdM_Yc)
I've never seen that before. I got shivers. I don't know if "best", but top three, for sure.
In no order:
- Ann and Nancy with Jason playing "Stairway..." for Robert, Jimmy and John.
- Temple of the Dog playing "Achilles Last Stand" in MSG a few months before Chris died, with Chris saying at the end "Imagine, getting to play THAT song, in THIS building" (Zeppelin played more shows at MSG than any other arena/venue).
- That one.
It's not quite as good as SHEL, but "Get The Led Out", the band, has a KILLER version of Battle... from Red Rocks. It's my understanding that the woman that sang Sandy Dennis' parts died not long after. It's a shame; it's a beautiful performance.
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Yeah, it's near impossible to leave that Kennedy Center performance out of the discussion.
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I didn't have Zep ranked. I respect them heavily, and they are, without a doubt, highly influential. My Dad was a big Zep fan. He got to see them in 1968 opening for The Iron Butterfly. I would argue that the secret to their success was not Page and Plant, it was John Paul Jones and Bonham. Those two were perhaps the best bass and drums duo of all time, and that gave Page and Plant the ability to do what they did.
Spoken like a drummer! ;) But it's true they never rose to the same heights individually or with Page & Plant.
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I didn't have Zep ranked. I respect them heavily, and they are, without a doubt, highly influential. My Dad was a big Zep fan. He got to see them in 1968 opening for The Iron Butterfly. I would argue that the secret to their success was not Page and Plant, it was John Paul Jones and Bonham. Those two were perhaps the best bass and drums duo of all time, and that gave Page and Plant the ability to do what they did.
I wouldn't argue this at all. There's a post in the Zeppelin countdown where I talked about the lack of REALLY good Zeppelin covers... because most drummers couldn't replicate that push and pull of Bonham (and Page, really, not JPJ). They played with time in a way that not a lot of musicians can, and it's what made that band breath. You can't put Stairway to a click track, for example. There's are plenty of examples on HTWWW that show that. It's what made that version of Achilles Last Stand so good; Matt Cameron GOT IT. That song just FILLED that arena; it was swirling it was driving... I don't really have the words for it.
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I didn't have Zep ranked. I respect them heavily, and they are, without a doubt, highly influential. My Dad was a big Zep fan. He got to see them in 1968 opening for The Iron Butterfly. I would argue that the secret to their success was not Page and Plant, it was John Paul Jones and Bonham. Those two were perhaps the best bass and drums duo of all time, and that gave Page and Plant the ability to do what they did.
I wouldn't argue this at all. There's a post in the Zeppelin countdown where I talked about the lack of REALLY good Zeppelin covers... because most drummers couldn't replicate that push and pull of Bonham (and Page, really, not JPJ). They played with time in a way that not a lot of musicians can, and it's what made that band breath. You can't put Stairway to a click track, for example. There's are plenty of examples on HTWWW that show that. It's what made that version of Achilles Last Stand so good; Matt Cameron GOT IT. That song just FILLED that arena; it was swirling it was driving... I don't really have the words for it.
If you want a geeky example, this is a fun video by Nick D'Virgilo breaking down/demonstrating two possible ways to play the ending section of Stairway, and even he's not sure how it was actually played on the record.
https://youtu.be/m6uvA8U35mY?si=uuiqEU0H5P216C9T
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Bonham was so unique because he has a swagger and swing to his playing that is really hard to replicate. It's not just about the big loud stuff. With him, he does so many little things that, while subtle, really help keep the grooves percolating. His sense of time, based on my understanding, comes off as more circulating than being linear and grid-like. Nick alludes to it in the video HOF posted.
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Yeah definitely a very fogey, USA / European centric list so far :P
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Yeah definitely a very fogey, USA / European centric list so far :P
I mean...look at the source bro...
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My dad loved LZ. He saw them multiple times at the height of their popularity. I don't remember much of what he specifically said but they were his favorite or second favorite band ever (the other being AC/DC).
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Bloody hell yessir, we needed coolin' ... and schoolin'.
Definitely Top 5 for me, if The Beatles are Homer, LZ is Milton. Four incredible voices whose sum is exponentially larger than the total to such an extent matched by maybe only other two acts in rock history. "Chemistry" fails to describe the way those talents interlocked to produce an unrepeatable brand of rock'n'roll (and mystique); you have to resort to some new term sitting between "occult alchemy" and "voodoo magic".
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I don't have the time to participate in these kinds of threads but I read them.
If you were of an age to be listening to Zep at the time of their release (in other words, old) than you know they were a phenomenon that has really only been equaled by the Beatles. At every party, at every school dance, on every day skipping school, on every radio station...they were there. Omnipresent and with a power that was otherworldly. To this day, No Quarter from TSRtS, is a top 5 all time song.
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I didn't have Zep ranked. I respect them heavily, and they are, without a doubt, highly influential. My Dad was a big Zep fan. He got to see them in 1968 opening for The Iron Butterfly. I would argue that the secret to their success was not Page and Plant, it was John Paul Jones and Bonham. Those two were perhaps the best bass and drums duo of all time, and that gave Page and Plant the ability to do what they did.
I wouldn't argue this at all. There's a post in the Zeppelin countdown where I talked about the lack of REALLY good Zeppelin covers... because most drummers couldn't replicate that push and pull of Bonham (and Page, really, not JPJ). They played with time in a way that not a lot of musicians can, and it's what made that band breath. You can't put Stairway to a click track, for example. There's are plenty of examples on HTWWW that show that. It's what made that version of Achilles Last Stand so good; Matt Cameron GOT IT. That song just FILLED that arena; it was swirling it was driving... I don't really have the words for it.
If you want a geeky example, this is a fun video by Nick D'Virgilo breaking down/demonstrating two possible ways to play the ending section of Stairway, and even he's not sure how it was actually played on the record.
https://youtu.be/m6uvA8U35mY?si=uuiqEU0H5P216C9T
WOW, that was a real treat. I didn't understand half of it, because I'm not a drummer, but his enthusiasm and interest in the subject made it compelling. (And not for nothing, I went back after and listened to the examples again, and I could hear everything Nick was talking about). That was really cool.
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I didn't have Zep ranked. I respect them heavily, and they are, without a doubt, highly influential. My Dad was a big Zep fan. He got to see them in 1968 opening for The Iron Butterfly. I would argue that the secret to their success was not Page and Plant, it was John Paul Jones and Bonham. Those two were perhaps the best bass and drums duo of all time, and that gave Page and Plant the ability to do what they did.
I wouldn't argue this at all. There's a post in the Zeppelin countdown where I talked about the lack of REALLY good Zeppelin covers... because most drummers couldn't replicate that push and pull of Bonham (and Page, really, not JPJ). They played with time in a way that not a lot of musicians can, and it's what made that band breath. You can't put Stairway to a click track, for example. There's are plenty of examples on HTWWW that show that. It's what made that version of Achilles Last Stand so good; Matt Cameron GOT IT. That song just FILLED that arena; it was swirling it was driving... I don't really have the words for it.
If you want a geeky example, this is a fun video by Nick D'Virgilo breaking down/demonstrating two possible ways to play the ending section of Stairway, and even he's not sure how it was actually played on the record.
https://youtu.be/m6uvA8U35mY?si=uuiqEU0H5P216C9T
WOW, that was a real treat. I didn't understand half of it, because I'm not a drummer, but his enthusiasm and interest in the subject made it compelling. (And not for nothing, I went back after and listened to the examples again, and I could hear everything Nick was talking about). That was really cool.
:tup I'm not a drummer either, but I love Nick's videos in part because of his enthusiasm. That whole series is good, as well as all the stuff he does for Sweetwater.
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Yay, I can add another band to my list!
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24 Led Zeppelin (10)
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22 Black Sabbath (20)
21 Megadeth (32)
20 Van Halen (13)
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14 Kiss (30)
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5 Helloween (38)
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1 UFO (42)
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10. Led Zeppelin
Zeppelin came in at #15. In retrospect, I think that's too high. Zeppelin has some amazing material, but the bluesy sludge does nothing for me.
1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. Fates Warning (12) (I'll be very sad if they don't make the list. I'm guessing if they aren't one of the next few picks we won't see them.)
4. LOCK
5. Yes (15) (LOCK)
6. Judas Priest (17) (Slightly better than 50/50)
7. Probably (75%+)
8. At this point, I think there's no chance.
9. See #8
10. No way, eh?
11. Probably 90%+
12. LOCK
13. Helloween (38)
14. UFO (42)
15. Led Zeppelin (10) (I think they're probably a lock, but 17 or higher seems surprising to me)
16. LOCK
17. At this point, I'm going to say no better than a 20% chance - surprisingly underrated around here
18. See #17
19. Black Sabbath (20)
20. Not a chance
21. I'm probably the only one to submit this artist
22. See #17
23. Probably?
24. Scorpions (46T)
25. See #17
Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeath, Riverside, KISS, Ayreon, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Pain of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed & Cambria, Mastodon, Queen, Tool, Transatlantic, Marillion, Opeth, Van Halen (36), Steven Wilson, Haken
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LZ (my #7) is my favorite classic rock band, impeccable discography and really diverse. It's a shame that the band just lasted a decade.
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I'm a casual fan of Zeppelin. Also more of a fan of their more expansive acoustic-injected material than the straight-ahead hard rock.
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Can't stand LZ personally.
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Not a huge fan of Led Zeppelin but they were one of the 8 bands I was sure of heading into the top 10.
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Another set of 4 British musicians!
09. The Beatles
Rate Your Music Profile! (https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/the-beatles)
Spotify Profile (https://open.spotify.com/artist/3WrFJ7ztbogyGnTHbHJFl2?si=uJ-S-RKWRQeYeOTcRyrcpg)
Monthly Spotify Streams: 36,256,395
Highest Finish: 1 (Stadler, Zydar)
Number of top 10 finishes: 7
Number of Lists appeared on: 14 (coz, DragonAttack, Dream Team, Metropolaris, pg1067, Stadler, twosuitsluke, Dave_Manchester, Zydar, jammindude, nobloodyname, SomeoneLikeHim)
It took a vary long time for me to get into The Beatles. I recognize their impact and greatness but the music never really spoke to me, I also sort of rebelled by people constantly telling me they were the greatest band ever. After multiple discographies spins I finally came to appreciate them in my own way. One thing I appreciate is that while their sound changed they stated consistent in their output, I can find music to enjoy from their entire catalog.
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Nice! I had a bad feeling that the Beatles were going to be one of the odd bands out (of the 12-15 I had in my head once we got to the top 10), but it's good to see that a forum dominated by hard rock/metal fans went this way with the votes. :hat :hat
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They didn't make my list, but they absolutely deserve to be here. I remember reading a comment about their impact to music was that they basically created the genre of rock and roll. Hard to argue that. Without a doubt, they were pioneers, and had the greatest impact of any band in the history of rock, perhaps in the history of music in general.
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Ah, there they are - my favourite band of all time. There was no doubt that they would be my #1, they have been #1 ever since I heard them as a 7 year old boy (35 years ago now). No band has ever come close to dethrone them. No band has ever touched me or rocked my foundation as they have and still continue to do. Although I've listened to their songs for many many years there's always something new I find that blows my mind. And thanks to the tremendous remixing job that Giles Martin does with their catalogue, there are always new details to marvel at. They are the sole reason why music is my one and only interest/passion in life. Why I picked up the guitar as a kid. Why I still love 60s music so passionately. I can't thank them enough for this.
I'm glad they placed so high on DTF's ranking, considering it's mainly a forum geared towards either metal or progressive music. That kind of shows how influential they are.
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Faith restored. The most progressive act ever.
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The Beatles would have made my top 25, possibly in the late teens. They just have so many amazing and varied songs, and they are iconic as well. Favorites include "Eleanor Rigby", "Come Together", "Ob-La-Di, Ob-la-Da", and "Hey Jude".
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It's terrific seeing The Beatles in the top ten on a progressive metal forum. Had it not been for a band that's yet to come up, they would have been my number one.
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My mother in particular was quite fond of the Beatles, so I've heard a fair amount of their material even outside of popular culture osmosis. I've moderately liked a decent amount of it, but they're probably just not the type of group that's going to be a top favorite for me.
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I like and certainly appreciate The Beatles, but I’ve never been a fan of The Beatles if that makes sense. I know tons of their songs, and I generally really admire their creativity and what they did for rock and even progressive music. But I also don’t really seek out their music. I own a couple of their albums, and I enjoy them but don’t reach for them often. I do feel like I should make an effort to collect more, but they just aren’t a priority. I also have this weird thing where I enjoy when bands draw influence from and reference The Beatles (things like Neal Morse, King’s X, XTC, Field Music) more than I enjoy listening to The Beatles themselves.
So The Beatles weren’t on my list, and for a little bit I was worried they might not make the top 50, but I certainly expected them to be here and think they are deserving.
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I have never listened to an entire Beatles album.
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This band is the epitome of 'I respect 'em, but meh' for me.
There are some brilliant Beatles songs, and far be it for me to criticize a band that proved so influential to KISS, but, for me, the Stones (and, to a lesser degree, the Who) are 'my' bands from this era.
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#6 on my list, I was late to the party but managed to catch up. Lennon and McCartney were an unparalleled songwriting team.
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The most progressive act ever.
:tup :tup :tup
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25. Between the Buried and Me
20. Avenged Sevenfold
17. Spocks Beard
15. Opeth
14. Ayreon
13. Haken
12. Marillion
11. Steven Wilson
10. The Beatles
9. The Dear Hunter
8. Big Big Train
6. Pain of Salvation
4. Neal Morse
3. Transatlantic
Hell yeah! I was beginning to doubt whether they would make it and they were not among the 8 I was sure of in the top 10. They were still one of my two guesses for the remaining two spots though and I'm really glad they made it. They even placed higher than on my list!
#6 on my list, I was late to the party but managed to catch up. Lennon and McCartney were an unparalleled songwriting team.
This sums up my thoughts pretty well.
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Steven Wilson
NR Devin Townsend
NR Tool
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Opeth
NR Nightwish
NR Megadeth
NR Mastodon
NR Katatonia
NR Judas Priest
NR Helloween
NR Haken
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Fates Warning
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
30 Transatlantic (The Whirlwind, Bridge Across Forever, The Absolute Universe)
26 Van Halen (Fair Warning, A Different Kind Of Truth, 1984)
25 Sadly, not a shot
24 Sadly, not a shot
23 Given
22 Queen (Queen II; Innuendo; A Kind Of Magic)
21 Given
20 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
19 Probably not; they are a classic, but don't seem to get much love here
18 Sadly, not a shot
17 Sadly, not a shot
16 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
15 Probably not; it's an offshoot of another band here and it won't likely make the grade
14 Sadly, not a shot
13 Sadly, not a shot
12 Neal Morse. (And yes, I lumped.). (Innocence and Danger; The Grand Experiment; TSOAD)
11 Black Sabbath (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sabotage, Heaven and Hell)
10 Sadly, not a shot
9 Given
8 Probably not; his more popular (here) incarnation already appeared
7 Given
6 Marillion (Clutching At Straws, Misplaced Childhood, Brave)
5 Yes (Going For The One, Fragile, Close To The Edge)
4 Led Zeppelin (Physical Graffiti, IV, How The West Was Won)
3. Kiss (Rock And Roll Over; Creatures Of The Night; Hotter Than Hell)
2 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
1 The Beatles (Abbey Road, Sgt. Pepper, Revolver)
What Zydar said, basically. I get hearing them now and hearing music that SEEMS derivative or seems like any of 100 other bands but that is, ironically, the argument FOR their greatness. More than any other band, the second wave of "derivative" bands have themselves achieved a level of greatness that makes them - the progenitors - seem mundane. I've always loved them, I've always said they are the Number One band, but the recent box sets, with the studio tapes, and the recent reissue of Get Back! (Peter Jackson's version of the "Let It Be" movie) it's just amazing what they did, how they did it, and the time frame within which they worked. It sounds simple today, sixty years on, but it was truly otherworldly back in real time. To think that Bob Dylan, The Stones, The Beach Boys and The Beatles were each listening to the others' work, and actively trying to raise the bar with each successive release... AND (in the Beatles case, since they were the most successful at it) maintaining their chart presence throughout... it is, to me, truly amazing.
I am now, surprisingly, 2-2 with "Givens".
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This band is the epitome of 'I respect 'em, but meh' for me.
There are some brilliant Beatles songs, and far be it for me to criticize a band that proved so influential to KISS, but, for me, the Stones (and, to a lesser degree, the Who) are 'my' bands from this era.
The funny thing, not just Kiss. They were perhaps the most influential band in real time as well. Everyone from Hendrix, Crimson, Yes (they covered several Beatles songs live and in studio), Elvis, Dylan, The Stones, The Beach Boys, even the mighty Led Zeppelin (the Rain Song is widely credited to George Harrison for inspiration, and they played "Please Please Me" and "I Saw Her Standing There" early on as encores when they ran out of other songs). THEN you have the entire next wave, where bands like Aerosmith, Kiss, Cheap Trick barely concealed their love for the Beatles (Cheap Trick has covered several Beatles songs and in fact covered the entire Sgt. Pepper ALBUM at one point). THEN AGAIN: Oasis. Phish. Dream Theater. Jellyfish. It's almost an endless list.
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I can't wait to see these lists revealed where you guys thought it should be given.
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I didn't have The Beatles on my list, but my Dad would have. Probably at number one. He was 12 years old when they came to America in 1964, so he was in the perfect age bracket to get them. I have a massive amount of respect for them, and their sonic evolution in just 8 years is truly mind-blowing. I honestly just don't listen to them that much, because they're so ubiquitous. They were a phenomenon that won't happen again.
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Still at 9
The Beatles
They deserve to be here even if I did not put them in my top 25.
I do listen to The Beatles with enjoyment from time to time.
There are just other bands I enjoy more.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Haken, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles
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21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
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19 Steven Wilson (favorite album: The Raven That Refused To Sing, favorite song: The Raven That Refused To Sing)
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
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15 Yes (Favorite album: Close to the Edge, favorite song:Roundabout)
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
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6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
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4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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So, I didn't submit a list because the world changed a bit too much for me to focus on it at the time.
That said, if I had submitted a list at that time, the Beatles wouldn't have been on it. I knew their hit songs (or some of them at least) but had never listened to much more than that. They were always a band I respected a lot and enjoyed a little. Then one day a few weeks ago I was walking and A Day in the Life came on shuffle. I'd heard it before but for some reason this time it hit a little harder. So, I decided to take a journey through the Beatles. For the last few weeks I've dedicated a week (not every day of the week though) to Beatles albums by year. So one week was 1963 (Please Please Me and With the Beatles) on repeat for a few days. Then the next week was 1964 (A Hard Days Night and Beatles for Sale), and this week is 1965 (Help! and Rubber Soul). Making sure to listen to each album at least 3 times to let it sink in. Today I listened to Help! twice but will get to Rubber Soul on my way home from work.
I really like them! I don't love every song, there's a stinker here or there, but it's rare. Also their covers on those early albums are really hit or miss. If it's John Lennon going nuts, it's good, otherwise it's pretty meh.
So if I were to do this list in the next few weeks, the Beatles would definitely make my list. And I'm excited to keep going through their major discography (not doing every single, etc.)
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Didn't get a list composed in time, but the Beatles would have made my list, for sure in the Top 10 somewhere, possibly higher.
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I recognize their impact and greatness but the music never really spoke to me.
This is exactly how I feel about both Led Zeppelin and The Beatles. Neither made my list, but I'm not surprised at all to see them here.
There are a few LZ songs I genuinely enjoy. On the flip side, there are some Beatles songs I actively dislike.
Only eight bands left, and my list has three remaining "locks" and three remaining "probably ins" so I'm prepared to be wrong about one or two of them!
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So, I didn't submit a list because the world changed a bit too much for me to focus on it at the time.
That said, if I had submitted a list at that time, the Beatles wouldn't have been on it. I knew their hit songs (or some of them at least) but had never listened to much more than that. They were always a band I respected a lot and enjoyed a little. Then one day a few weeks ago I was walking and A Day in the Life came on shuffle. I'd heard it before but for some reason this time it hit a little harder. So, I decided to take a journey through the Beatles. For the last few weeks I've dedicated a week (not every day of the week though) to Beatles albums by year. So one week was 1963 (Please Please Me and With the Beatles) on repeat for a few days. Then the next week was 1964 (A Hard Days Night and Beatles for Sale), and this week is 1965 (Help! and Rubber Soul). Making sure to listen to each album at least 3 times to let it sink in. Today I listened to Help! twice but will get to Rubber Soul on my way home from work.
I really like them! I don't love every song, there's a stinker here or there, but it's rare. Also their covers on those early albums are really hit or miss. If it's John Lennon going nuts, it's good, otherwise it's pretty meh.
So if I were to do this list in the next few weeks, the Beatles would definitely make my list. And I'm excited to keep going through their major discography (not doing every single, etc.)
With respect, something to consider. It might be enlightening to include the singles because of the way they released their records. They would put out an album - oh, and up through Revolver, the UK and US releases were different (then there's the Mono and Stereo issue as well) - and in between they would put out one or two singles that never appeared on an album. These singly chart the process; Rubber Soul to Revolver doesn't really make sense without "Paperback Writer"/"Rain" in between. Revolver to Sgt. Pepper doesn't really make sense without "Penny Lane"/"Strawberry Fields" in between. "Penny Lane" is absolutely a track that COULD have been on Revolver, but SF? No way; vice versa, though, for Sgt. Pepper. I don't think they planned it that way, but that's how it worked out.
if you want to visit the singles and keep to your "album" concept, you can listen to Past Masters Vol. 1 (through mid-1965) and Vol. 2 (late-1965 through 1970) and "Magical Mystery Tour" (originally a double EP that on CD includes the singles released around that time, between Sgt. Pepper and The White Album).
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By the way Chad, can we try and guess the participants at the same time as we guess the hangman?
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By the way Chad, can we try and guess the participants at the same time as we guess the hangman?
No spotlighting!
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Oh shit, wrong thread. :lol
Wanted to post about Beatles not being on my list and somehow mixed up this thread with jingle's roulette. Anyway, Beatles are not my cup of tea mostly, but total respect to them and well-deserved placement on the list.
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By the way Chad, can we try and guess the participants at the same time as we guess the hangman?
How embarrassing for you
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My mother in particular was quite fond of the Beatles, so I've heard a fair amount of their material even outside of popular culture osmosis. I've moderately liked a decent amount of it, but they're probably just not the type of group that's going to be a top favorite for me.
My mom is a huge Beatles fan and I listened to quite a lot of it growing up. Plenty that I liked as well. We even watched some Beatles movies. I never really had much criticism for it; it's just that when eventually I found "my" music, there was a connection that hadn't been there with The Beatles and other stuff.
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I can't wait to see these lists revealed where you guys thought it should be given.
One of my favorite things is seeing people post what they think is a "lock" or "given" and then comparing it to what's coming up and just seeing how wrong they are :lol
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By the way Chad, can we try and guess the participants at the same time as we guess the hangman?
How embarrassing for you
And it's not even as funny as Lube in the Face
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By the way Chad, can we try and guess the participants at the same time as we guess the hangman?
How embarrassing for you
And it's not even as funny as Lube in the Face
But do.you have the testicular fortitude to send Instant Boner?
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So, I didn't submit a list because the world changed a bit too much for me to focus on it at the time.
That said, if I had submitted a list at that time, the Beatles wouldn't have been on it. I knew their hit songs (or some of them at least) but had never listened to much more than that. They were always a band I respected a lot and enjoyed a little. Then one day a few weeks ago I was walking and A Day in the Life came on shuffle. I'd heard it before but for some reason this time it hit a little harder. So, I decided to take a journey through the Beatles. For the last few weeks I've dedicated a week (not every day of the week though) to Beatles albums by year. So one week was 1963 (Please Please Me and With the Beatles) on repeat for a few days. Then the next week was 1964 (A Hard Days Night and Beatles for Sale), and this week is 1965 (Help! and Rubber Soul). Making sure to listen to each album at least 3 times to let it sink in. Today I listened to Help! twice but will get to Rubber Soul on my way home from work.
I really like them! I don't love every song, there's a stinker here or there, but it's rare. Also their covers on those early albums are really hit or miss. If it's John Lennon going nuts, it's good, otherwise it's pretty meh.
So if I were to do this list in the next few weeks, the Beatles would definitely make my list. And I'm excited to keep going through their major discography (not doing every single, etc.)
With respect, something to consider. It might be enlightening to include the singles because of the way they released their records. They would put out an album - oh, and up through Revolver, the UK and US releases were different (then there's the Mono and Stereo issue as well) - and in between they would put out one or two singles that never appeared on an album. These singly chart the process; Rubber Soul to Revolver doesn't really make sense without "Paperback Writer"/"Rain" in between. Revolver to Sgt. Pepper doesn't really make sense without "Penny Lane"/"Strawberry Fields" in between. "Penny Lane" is absolutely a track that COULD have been on Revolver, but SF? No way; vice versa, though, for Sgt. Pepper. I don't think they planned it that way, but that's how it worked out.
if you want to visit the singles and keep to your "album" concept, you can listen to Past Masters Vol. 1 (through mid-1965) and Vol. 2 (late-1965 through 1970) and "Magical Mystery Tour" (originally a double EP that on CD includes the singles released around that time, between Sgt. Pepper and The White Album).
Happy to try. If you feel so inclined to PM me a list of what songs to listen to between albums, I'll totally include them. Just started listening to Rubber Soul (loving it) so I got a bit before I get to Revolver.
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I really dig Beatles and a lot of Wings/McCartney and Lennon. I think they deserve all the recognition. I grew up listening to them a lot since it was the favorite band from my older brother, but I never put an LP or CD of them to hear for myself. I'm more of a 70s and beyond rock fan.
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i find the beatles a bit overrated and didn't put them on my list but it's not a surprise they'd wind up on any large group of people's favorites, they're just that big!
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I can't wait to see these lists revealed where you guys thought it should be given.
One of my favorite things is seeing people post what they think is a "lock" or "given" and then comparing it to what's coming up and just seeing how wrong they are :lol
I am PRIME for that, since I'm so usually out of touch with the forum, but hey, I'm 2-2 so far!!! :) :) :) :) :)
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Oh shit, wrong thread. :lol
Wanted to post about Beatles not being on my list and somehow mixed up this thread with jingle's roulette. Anyway, Beatles are not my cup of tea mostly, but total respect to them and well-deserved placement on the list.
Don't worry friend, I got you covered!!!! :) :) :) :) :)
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So, I didn't submit a list because the world changed a bit too much for me to focus on it at the time.
That said, if I had submitted a list at that time, the Beatles wouldn't have been on it. I knew their hit songs (or some of them at least) but had never listened to much more than that. They were always a band I respected a lot and enjoyed a little. Then one day a few weeks ago I was walking and A Day in the Life came on shuffle. I'd heard it before but for some reason this time it hit a little harder. So, I decided to take a journey through the Beatles. For the last few weeks I've dedicated a week (not every day of the week though) to Beatles albums by year. So one week was 1963 (Please Please Me and With the Beatles) on repeat for a few days. Then the next week was 1964 (A Hard Days Night and Beatles for Sale), and this week is 1965 (Help! and Rubber Soul). Making sure to listen to each album at least 3 times to let it sink in. Today I listened to Help! twice but will get to Rubber Soul on my way home from work.
I really like them! I don't love every song, there's a stinker here or there, but it's rare. Also their covers on those early albums are really hit or miss. If it's John Lennon going nuts, it's good, otherwise it's pretty meh.
So if I were to do this list in the next few weeks, the Beatles would definitely make my list. And I'm excited to keep going through their major discography (not doing every single, etc.)
With respect, something to consider. It might be enlightening to include the singles because of the way they released their records. They would put out an album - oh, and up through Revolver, the UK and US releases were different (then there's the Mono and Stereo issue as well) - and in between they would put out one or two singles that never appeared on an album. These singly chart the process; Rubber Soul to Revolver doesn't really make sense without "Paperback Writer"/"Rain" in between. Revolver to Sgt. Pepper doesn't really make sense without "Penny Lane"/"Strawberry Fields" in between. "Penny Lane" is absolutely a track that COULD have been on Revolver, but SF? No way; vice versa, though, for Sgt. Pepper. I don't think they planned it that way, but that's how it worked out.
if you want to visit the singles and keep to your "album" concept, you can listen to Past Masters Vol. 1 (through mid-1965) and Vol. 2 (late-1965 through 1970) and "Magical Mystery Tour" (originally a double EP that on CD includes the singles released around that time, between Sgt. Pepper and The White Album).
Happy to try. If you feel so inclined to PM me a list of what songs to listen to between albums, I'll totally include them. Just started listening to Rubber Soul (loving it) so I got a bit before I get to Revolver.
Will do!!!
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I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
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G
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-Led Zeppelin
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-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
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Yeah, with those two out of the way, it feels fairly obvious who the rest are now. The order could still be interesting though. I'm really curious about #51 to #75, I'm guessing most if not all the major snubs will be there.
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Another set of 4 British musicians!
09. The Beatles
Rate Your Music Profile! (https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/the-beatles)
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 36,256,395
Highest Finish: 1 (Stadler, Zydar)
Number of top 10 finishes: 7
Number of Lists appeared on: 14 ()coz, DragonAttack, Dream Team, Metropolaris, pg1067, Stadler, twosuitsluke, Dave_Manchester, Zydar, jammindude, nobloodyname, SomeoneLikeHim
It took a vary long time for me to get into The Beatles. I recognize their impact and greatness but the music never really spoke to me, I also sort of rebelled by people constantly telling me they were the greatest band ever. After multiple discographies spins I finally came to appreciate them in my own way. One thing I appreciate is that while their sound changed they stated consistent in their output, I can find music to enjoy from their entire catalog.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
NR Tool
NR Black Sabbath
NR Judas Priest
NR Opeth
NR Van Halen
NR Fates Warning
NR Led Zeppelin
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
27 The Beatles
26 Queen
25 ?
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20 Riverside
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14 Steven Wilson
13 Yes
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10 Ayreon
09 Haken
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07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
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03 Transatlantic
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01 Big Big Train
When I made my list over a month ago, I had included The Beatles in my top 30 and the sorter just barely missed them and placed them at 27, which I thought was fine. I hadn't listened to them in AGES and while I knew I loved nearly all of their music, they hadn't been on my mind in years.
Fast forward to early November and the band release "Now And Then" and I've been listening to them nearly every single day ever since - at home, in my car, and at work. I've reminded myself just how much I love them and their music, how my formative years as a child were filled with Beatles music thanks to my father, and just how many songs I actually remember the lyrics to (especially among their first seven albums).
If I made my Top 25 list now, they'd almost certainly make it into the Top 10, bumping everyone from at least Ayreon upwards a spot back. Ah well... I knew they'd probably make the Top 25 but I didn't think they'd land at Number 9... Number 9... Number 9... Number 9... Number 9...
-Marc.
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I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
D
G
-Haken
I
-Led Zeppelin
M
P
P
Q
R
-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
I dunno guys, I don't think there is any way that Platypus is making the top 8.
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I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
D
G
-Haken
I
-Led Zeppelin
M
P
P
Q
R
-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
I dunno guys, I don't think there is any way that Platypus is making the top 8.
Or Poison.
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Marc, I never heard of Big Big Train until this countdown. Can you give me a small sample of songs to listen to or send a small spotify playlist? Being number 1 on your list is intriguing enough.
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i find the beatles a bit overrated
what
That band? Of all bands? The most influential band in the history of bands? How can they possibly be overrated?
You not caring for them =/= "they are overrated"
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i find the beatles a bit overrated
what
That band? Of all bands? The most influential band in the history of bands? How can they possibly be overrated?
You not caring for them =/= "they are overrated"
properly rated according to Chuck Klosterman
https://vixi.livejournal.com/198971.html
4. The Beatles: The Beatles are generally seen as the single most important rock band of all time, because they wrote all the best songs. Since both of these facts are true, the Beatles are rated properly.
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i would disagree that they're the most influential band. i'd say you could even make an argument the rolling stones are more influential (tho i don't even think the stones are the most influential)
as someone who actually does like their music (tho not enough to rank them in this list) i don't think it's fair to say that because I don't care for them means i think they're overrated. i actually like them, lol.
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Marc, I never heard of Big Big Train until this countdown. Can you give me a small sample of songs to listen to or send a small spotify playlist? Being number 1 on your list is intriguing enough.
Not Marc, and he will surely give you his own recommendations, but since they were my second ranked band, I'll bump my list of favorite songs from each album (start with Victorian Brickwork or East Coast Racer maybe). Or just check out The Underfall Yard or English Electric albums, which are a great starting point.
Might as well do Big Big Train too. A favorite from each album:
- Losing Your Way
- The Shipping Forecast
- Powder Monkey
- Pick Up If You're There
- Victorian Brickwork
- Fat Billy Shouts Mine
- East Coast Racer
- London Plane
- Grimspound
- Terra Australis Incognita
- The Florentine
- Black With Ink
- Capitoline Venus
Rarities:
- Mudlarks
- Snowfalls
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I missed your post back then, thank you HOF.
Edit: Made a Spotify playlist based on your post: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/16QQ62g5DABPFwu5cR9wh9?si=f0d77078b0704e29
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i would disagree that they're the most influential band. i'd say you could even make an argument the rolling stones are more influential (tho i don't even think the stones are the most influential)
Well, what are you saying here exactly?
as someone who actually does like their music (tho not enough to rank them in this list) i don't think it's fair to say that because I don't care for them means i think they're overrated. i actually like them, lol.
No. You saying you think they are overrated means you think they are overrated.
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In other news, the Big Bang is not the most influential event in the history of the universe.
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i find the beatles a bit overrated and didn't put them on my list but it's not a surprise they'd wind up on any large group of people's favorites, they're just that big!
i would disagree that they're the most influential band. i'd say you could even make an argument the rolling stones are more influential (tho i don't even think the stones are the most influential)
as someone who actually does like their music (tho not enough to rank them in this list) i don't think it's fair to say that because I don't care for them means i think they're overrated. i actually like them, lol.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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I missed your post back then, thank you HOF.
Edit: Made a Spotify playlist based on your post: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/16QQ62g5DABPFwu5cR9wh9?si=f0d77078b0704e29
:tup
Just a heads up, don’t let the stuff from those early albums dissuade you. They started as a small label act and then an indie hobby band before they hit on a new lineup for The Underfall Yard in 2009 and the quality of the playing and production took a huge leap up.
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I missed your post back then, thank you HOF.
Edit: Made a Spotify playlist based on your post: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/16QQ62g5DABPFwu5cR9wh9?si=f0d77078b0704e29
:tup
Just a heads up, don’t let the stuff from those early albums dissuade you. They started as a small label act and then an Indy hobby band before they hit on a new lineup for The Underfall Yard in 2009 and the quality of the playing and production took a huge leap up.
Thanks, if you were to recommend 3 songs, which ones would you pick?
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I missed your post back then, thank you HOF.
Edit: Made a Spotify playlist based on your post: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/16QQ62g5DABPFwu5cR9wh9?si=f0d77078b0704e29
:tup
Just a heads up, don’t let the stuff from those early albums dissuade you. They started as a small label act and then an Indy hobby band before they hit on a new lineup for The Underfall Yard in 2009 and the quality of the playing and production took a huge leap up.
Thanks, if you were to recommend 3 songs, which ones would you pick?
Victorian Brickwork, East Coast Racer (original album version from English Electric), and Snowfalls.
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i would disagree that they're the most influential band. i'd say you could even make an argument the rolling stones are more influential (tho i don't even think the stones are the most influential)
Well, what are you saying here exactly?
as someone who actually does like their music (tho not enough to rank them in this list) i don't think it's fair to say that because I don't care for them means i think they're overrated. i actually like them, lol.
No. You saying you think they are overrated means you think they are overrated.
you were the one who said i didn't care for them which isn't true, though. i never said that. i can like something, yet find it overrated. in any event i also said it makes sense that they appear on this list and wasn't trying to stir up anything
i don't really think a "the most influential band ever" statement is even something you could objectively qualify (we're certainly welcome to subjectively think these things) but even if i agreed they were the most influential band of all time, that is not really related to whether or not they're overrated in my view.
as far as who i think is the most influential, i would be more inclined to talk about people like Link Wray, or Bob Dylan (to name a few from different areas - guitar influence and songwriting influence) than i would the Beatles. but even so i would say the stones had more influence, especially in an immediate sense. you can hear stones influence like crazy in people like david bowie and a lot of other british artists of the late 60s. you can even hear their influence on the beatles themselves! :lol
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i would disagree that they're the most influential band. i'd say you could even make an argument the rolling stones are more influential (tho i don't even think the stones are the most influential)
as someone who actually does like their music (tho not enough to rank them in this list) i don't think it's fair to say that because I don't care for them means i think they're overrated. i actually like them, lol.
Not arguing, just debating, but... if The Beatles influenced the Stones - and they CLEARLY did*, not the other way around - wouldn't by definition they be the most influential?
* The Stones covered The Beatles (I Wanna Be Your Man) not the other way around. They started writing - Jagger and Richards - in reaction to Lennon/McCartney. Their Satanic Majesty's Request was a result of The Beatles earlier psychedelic experiments, but it was also - like The Beatles Sgt. Pepper (released six months earlier) the first Stones record to be the same in the US and UK (all previous versions - like The Beatles, had the singles included on the US versions). Like The Beatles - who responded to Sgt. Pepper with the more organic, stripped back "White Album" - The Stones rebounded with Beggar's Banquet (a single album, released in December of '68). The Beatles did their exile to India in early '68, which directly resulted in the double album "The White Album"; Stones did their exile to France (for different reasons) in '72, resulting in their double, "Exile On Main Street".
I see little in the formative period of The Beatles that was directly influenced by the Stones. They were friends, they liked each other (and stayed in touch; see the guest list for "The Rock And Roll Circus") but the Stones were always the little brothers of The Beatles, even though they were/are the same age more or less. (Lennon was born in 1940, McCartney in '42, Jagger and Richards in '43). I think EVERYONE at that stage looked up to Lennon, for better or worse (even Ringo, who was six months or so older).
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i would disagree that they're the most influential band. i'd say you could even make an argument the rolling stones are more influential (tho i don't even think the stones are the most influential)
as someone who actually does like their music (tho not enough to rank them in this list) i don't think it's fair to say that because I don't care for them means i think they're overrated. i actually like them, lol.
Not arguing, just debating, but... if The Beatles influenced the Stones - and they CLEARLY did*, not the other way around - wouldn't by definition they be the most influential?
* The Stones covered The Beatles (I Wanna Be Your Man) not the other way around. They started writing - Jagger and Richards - in reaction to Lennon/McCartney. Their Satanic Majesty's Request was a result of The Beatles earlier psychedelic experiments, but it was also - like The Beatles Sgt. Pepper (released six months earlier) the first Stones record to be the same in the US and UK (all previous versions - like The Beatles, had the singles included on the US versions). Like The Beatles - who responded to Sgt. Pepper with the more organic, stripped back "White Album" - The Stones rebounded with Beggar's Banquet (a single album, released in December of '68). The Beatles did their exile to India in early '68, which directly resulted in the double album "The White Album"; Stones did their exile to France (for different reasons) in '72, resulting in their double, "Exile On Main Street".
:lol i love a good debate! i would say Their Satanic Majesty's Request (which is very Beatles influenced) being such a bad record, and the Stones' immediately rejecting that sound after that record came out kinda shows that while you're right that the beatles influenced the stones first, the stones didn't find success with that influence and roundly dropped it. then, later, the beatles started writing more stones-like songs (especially on The White Album) and that effort was largely successful, so i guess the question is: What is more important, timing or result?
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Marc, I never heard of Big Big Train until this countdown. Can you give me a small sample of songs to listen to or send a small spotify playlist? Being number 1 on your list is intriguing enough.
HOF pretty much covered it. If you're looking for a starting point, I'd highly suggest their first three albums with David Longdon - The Underfall Yard, and English Electric Parts 1 & 2 (though the Full Power compilation of those two is my personal pick, which includes four songs from the follow-up Make Some Noise EP to make an extremely satisfying double album). As far individual songs, their music ranges from lush and beautiful arrangements in sprawling epics to soft and gentle acoustic numbers, and everything in between. If you're looking for epics, check out this year's compilation album Ingenious Devices. There's also the 2CD compilation album from 2020, titled Summer's Lease, which covers their material from 2009 to 2019.
Hopefully you find something you like, and if you enjoy your journey discovering BBT, join us in the BBT Thread here!
-Marc.
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But even then... The White Album was largely written in India in early '68 (February, March) and demo'd at George's house in May (by the way, anyone looking for the roots of the Beatles, get the "Escher Demos" from the deluxe White Album package from a year or so ago; it's on the 3CD set version as well as the super-mega-6CD version).
It might have been somewhat contemporaneous, but clearly the impetus to get back to roots was in The Beatles camp first.
There's a great story about Mick being so jazzed at their new work, that he threw a huge party after the recording of Beggar's Banquet was done, in August of '68 and McCartney showed up with an acetate of their new single, "Hey Jude" and ruined the mood of everyone in the Stones' camp. :)
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you were the one who said i didn't care for them which isn't true, though. i never said that. i can like something, yet find it overrated. in any event i also said it makes sense that they appear on this list and wasn't trying to stir up anything
I didn't say that you didn't care for them.
i don't really think a "the most influential band ever" statement is even something you could objectively qualify (we're certainly welcome to subjectively think these things) but even if i agreed they were the most influential band of all time, that is not really related to whether or not they're overrated in my view.
I don't have to objectively qualify. I've just heard the overwhelming number of bands and other artists who have cited the Beatles' influence.
And of course it's related. If they (or anyone else, doesn't matter who) is the most influential, then how could they be overrated?
as far as who i think is the most influential, i would be more inclined to talk about people like Link Wray, or Bob Dylan (to name a few from different areas - guitar influence and songwriting influence) than i would the Beatles. but even so i would say the stones had more influence, especially in an immediate sense. you can hear stones influence like crazy in people like david bowie and a lot of other british artists of the late 60s. you can even hear their influence on the beatles themselves! :lol
I just don't see any of those people being more influential to bands (which is what we are talking about) as the Beatles were.
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I missed your post back then, thank you HOF.
Edit: Made a Spotify playlist based on your post: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/16QQ62g5DABPFwu5cR9wh9?si=f0d77078b0704e29
:tup
Just a heads up, don’t let the stuff from those early albums dissuade you. They started as a small label act and then an Indy hobby band before they hit on a new lineup for The Underfall Yard in 2009 and the quality of the playing and production took a huge leap up.
Thanks, if you were to recommend 3 songs, which ones would you pick?
Victorian Brickwork, East Coast Racer (original album version from English Electric), and Snowfalls.
Marc, I never heard of Big Big Train until this countdown. Can you give me a small sample of songs to listen to or send a small spotify playlist? Being number 1 on your list is intriguing enough.
HOF pretty much covered it. If you're looking for a starting point, I'd highly suggest their first three albums with David Longdon - The Underfall Yard, and English Electric Parts 1 & 2 (though the Full Power compilation of those two is my personal pick, which includes four songs from the follow-up Make Some Noise EP to make an extremely satisfying double album). As far individual songs, their music ranges from lush and beautiful arrangements in sprawling epics to soft and gentle acoustic numbers, and everything in between. If you're looking for epics, check out this year's compilation album Ingenious Devices. There's also the 2CD compilation album from 2020, titled Summer's Lease, which covers their material from 2009 to 2019.
Hopefully you find something you like, and if you enjoy your journey discovering BBT, join us in the BBT Thread here!
-Marc.
Thanks guys! If I find time I will sneak some listens in!
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I hate the Beatles! So boring! Overrated as Heck!
But good list so, Dream Theater Forumers. I am look forward to discovering many new bands to me.
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But even then... The White Album was largely written in India in early '68 (February, March) and demo'd at George's house in May (by the way, anyone looking for the roots of the Beatles, get the "Escher Demos" from the deluxe White Album package from a year or so ago; it's on the 3CD set version as well as the super-mega-6CD version).
It might have been somewhat contemporaneous, but clearly the impetus to get back to roots was in The Beatles camp first.
There's a great story about Mick being so jazzed at their new work, that he threw a huge party after the recording of Beggar's Banquet was done, in August of '68 and McCartney showed up with an acetate of their new single, "Hey Jude" and ruined the mood of everyone in the Stones' camp. :)
Isn't Helter Skelter a Macca tune knowingly written to compete with some of the edgier music the Stones had been making?
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They didn't make my list, but they absolutely deserve to be here. I remember reading a comment about their impact to music was that they basically created the genre of rock and roll. Hard to argue that. Without a doubt, they were pioneers, and had the greatest impact of any band in the history of rock, perhaps in the history of music in general.
I think that seals our collective assessment of the top ten, the Beatles was the only one I was iffy on.
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you were the one who said i didn't care for them which isn't true, though. i never said that. i can like something, yet find it overrated. in any event i also said it makes sense that they appear on this list and wasn't trying to stir up anything
I didn't say that you didn't care for them.
i guess i am confused as to what you meant by this then lol
You not caring for them =/= "they are overrated"
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They didn't make my list, but they absolutely deserve to be here. I remember reading a comment about their impact to music was that they basically created the genre of rock and roll. Hard to argue that. Without a doubt, they were pioneers, and had the greatest impact of any band in the history of rock, perhaps in the history of music in general.
I had no idea Chuck Berry was a Beatle
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Chuck Berry is another great example of towering, enduring legacy/influence.
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More catching up, and 2/4 with these four.
Fates Warning had no chance of making my list, although I do really like Theories of Flight. I honestly wouldn't have considered them for a DTF Top 25, as they are not hugely on my radar.
Haken just missed out on my top 25 and are easily up there as one of the top 10 bands I've discovered in the last 10 years. I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE their first 4 albums but for me they fell off a bit after Affinity. Fauna is a bit more to my tastes but nowhere near the highs of the first 4. Incredible band and I don't personally have any problem with Jennings.
Led Zeppelin I had at #22. Some of my earliest musical memories are listening to Led Zeppelin. I know I've told this story before but my Dad was a huge Led Zeppelin fan and had all their records (which I have inherited from him). Back in the early 90s, I used to sometimes spend evenings drawing at the dining room table with my older brother (he was 8 years older). He was a huge influence on me and exposed me to thrash/death/heavy metal at a young age. I couldn't care less about the music back then but he had an Atari ST, and later a SNES, so playing computer games with him meant listening to his music. Anyway, there was a period where I remember he used to listen to The Black Album on repeat as well as Led Zeppelin I. I didn't know anything about Led Zep then, and didn't even realise they were one of my Dad's favourites, I assumed they were a new band my brother liked. So we'd sit at the kitchen table drawing pictures of Warhammer characters, or sometimes paint the miniatures. For a time he would just spin side 1 of Led Zeppelin I, on my Dad's old record player, on repeat. Man, those songs really seeped into the fibre of my being. To this day Led Zeppelin I is my favourite of theirs and an album I hold dear. That run of Good Times, Bad Times > Babe I'm Gonna Leave You > You Shook Me > Dazed and Confused is legendary as far as I'm concerned and the most incredible start to a career that any band I listen to has. We'd just listen to those 4 songs over and over and over. Later in life, when I started to actually get into music myself I found my way back to the band, raided my Dad's collection (he had all the albums on CD by then) and just fully fell for the band. In some ways they are the band I've got the most history with. Even though #22 could be considered fairly low, I absolutely adore this band.
Lastly is The Beatles. The Beatles to me are synonymous with my Dad, and my Dad with The Beatles. They were his favourite band and one that he would play on all occasions. He used to joke that when my siblings and I were old enough to have kids he would buy his grandkids Beatles albums on their 1st birthday. He bloody did as well! His reasoning was that EVERYONE loved The Beatles, or would fall fast in love with them. He'd always try to explain Beatlemania to us, whilst also knowing that we'd never truly be able to fathom it, unless we'd lived through it. He would tell the story of his best mate Gary, who went on holiday abroad somewhere, just before the release of Revolver. Gary arrived back in the country and my Dad was out on the street as their car pulled up. His arm came up out the car door first, holding aloft a record, shouting "LOOK WHAT I'VE GOT!!". It was of course a copy of Revolver, he'd managed to get before release is the UK. They excitedly ran into his house to play it. Those album releases were just life changing events for his generation.
As a young kid my Dad always seemed stressed and angry (he was working flat out to support a big family) but whenever we went on long car journeys he would bust out his many Beatles mix tapes. Those were the times I remember him truly happy, and my younger brother and sister would be singing along to every word. As we grew up he mellowed out and went back to his 'summer of love' roots. His love for life resurfaced and that was always expressed through music, dancing and singing, for the most part. Once CDs became the most common form of music media, my Dad decided he would not buy any of The Beatles albums on CD and asked we get them for him on his birthday/Christmas. He held to that for years and slowly we ended up getting him all the albums. He would unwrap those CDs with the pure excitement of a child, and play them like it was the first time he'd ever heard them.
My love for them has just been a constant in my life and the magic of the band has underpinned everything I love about music my whole life (and continues to do so). A high proportion of my all time favourite songs are songs I can sing along to. That comes from The Beatles, I mean how can you not sing along to these songs?
I had them at #18, which looking at it now seems criminally low. How is it possible that these four Liverpudlians churned out songs that are considered world wide, to be pop/rock perfection? Fucked if I know, but I'm glad I am around to hear them.
NR:
Miles Davis
Symphony X
Agalloch
King Crimson
Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Evergrey
UFO
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Nightwish
Katatonia
Helloween
Between the Buried and Me
Anathema
Radiohead
Big Big Train
Peter Gabriel
Riverside
KISS
Ayreon
Spock's Beard
Neal Morse
Pain of Salvation
Queen
Tool
Black Sabbath
Transatlantic
Marillion
Yes
Van Halen
Steven Wilson
Fates Warning
Haken
25. Avenged Sevenfold (Favourite Album: City of Evil. Favourite Song: Cosmic)
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23. Devin Townsend (Favourite Album: Really hard to pick, but today I'll say Terria. Favourite Song: Kingdom or Deep Peace)
22. Led Zeppelin (Favourite Album: Led Zeppelin I. Favourite Song: Babe I'm Gonna Leave You)
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20.
19.
18. The Beatles (Favourite Album: Abbey Road. Favourite Song: Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End)
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14.
13.
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11. The Dear Hunter (Favourite Album: Act IV: Rebirth in Reprise. Favourite Song: Home/A Night on the Town)
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9. Megadeth (Favourite Album: Rust in Peace. Favourite Song: Washington is Next!)
8. Mastodon (Favourite Album: Blood Mountain. Favourite Song: Too many to choose, but currently Gigantium)
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6. Opeth (Favourite Album: Ghost Reveries. Favourite Song: )
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4.
3.
2.
1. Coheed and Cambria (Favourite Album: Good Apollo I’m Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness. Favourite Song: Willing Well Suite)
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The Beatles are fine I guess.
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i find the beatles a bit overrated and didn't put them on my list but it's not a surprise they'd wind up on any large group of people's favorites, they're just that big!
i would disagree that they're the most influential band. i'd say you could even make an argument the rolling stones are more influential (tho i don't even think the stones are the most influential)
as someone who actually does like their music (tho not enough to rank them in this list) i don't think it's fair to say that because I don't care for them means i think they're overrated. i actually like them, lol.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
? why is what i wrote so confusing lol.
to make it as painfully clear as i can:
I like the Beatles. I think they're great. They don't personally make my list in this thread, but I also understand why they made the overall listing.
It's also entirely possible that I can have that belief and also think the band is overrated. Overrated just means that society at large holds them in higher regard than they are due (in your opinion). It would very easily follow that if I like or enjoy a band, but wouldn't say they are a "Top 25" band, that constantly seeing them near or at the top of a lot of lists like this would make them "overrated". Overrated is not a comment or remark on the quality of the music or how much one personally enjoys it. It's simply an observation of how (generally speaking) a group of people regard them in relation to your own regards. If i thought the Beatles were good enough to be in my top 10, then I would also obviously think they are properly rated. I'm so confused as to why this is not translating well
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you were the one who said i didn't care for them which isn't true, though. i never said that. i can like something, yet find it overrated. in any event i also said it makes sense that they appear on this list and wasn't trying to stir up anything
I didn't say that you didn't care for them.
i guess i am confused as to what you meant by this then lol
You not caring for them =/= "they are overrated"
There is an understood "if"
Or at least, I understood it lol
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you were the one who said i didn't care for them which isn't true, though. i never said that. i can like something, yet find it overrated. in any event i also said it makes sense that they appear on this list and wasn't trying to stir up anything
I didn't say that you didn't care for them.
i guess i am confused as to what you meant by this then lol
You not caring for them =/= "they are overrated"
There is an understood "if"
Or at least, I understood it lol
:yeahright :millahhhh :hefdaddy
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But even then... The White Album was largely written in India in early '68 (February, March) and demo'd at George's house in May (by the way, anyone looking for the roots of the Beatles, get the "Escher Demos" from the deluxe White Album package from a year or so ago; it's on the 3CD set version as well as the super-mega-6CD version).
It might have been somewhat contemporaneous, but clearly the impetus to get back to roots was in The Beatles camp first.
There's a great story about Mick being so jazzed at their new work, that he threw a huge party after the recording of Beggar's Banquet was done, in August of '68 and McCartney showed up with an acetate of their new single, "Hey Jude" and ruined the mood of everyone in the Stones' camp. :)
Isn't Helter Skelter a Macca tune knowingly written to compete with some of the edgier music the Stones had been making?
The Who. Townshend called "I Can See For Miles" the dirtiest, rawest song The Who had ever done, so Paul was bummed that it was a great idea but someone else had done it first. Then he heard the song and felt it didn't live up to the billing so he would REALLY show them what "dirty" and "raw" was.
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But even then... The White Album was largely written in India in early '68 (February, March) and demo'd at George's house in May (by the way, anyone looking for the roots of the Beatles, get the "Escher Demos" from the deluxe White Album package from a year or so ago; it's on the 3CD set version as well as the super-mega-6CD version).
It might have been somewhat contemporaneous, but clearly the impetus to get back to roots was in The Beatles camp first.
There's a great story about Mick being so jazzed at their new work, that he threw a huge party after the recording of Beggar's Banquet was done, in August of '68 and McCartney showed up with an acetate of their new single, "Hey Jude" and ruined the mood of everyone in the Stones' camp. :)
Isn't Helter Skelter a Macca tune knowingly written to compete with some of the edgier music the Stones had been making?
The Who. Townshend called "I Can See For Miles" the dirtiest, rawest song The Who had ever done, so Paul was bummed that it was a great idea but someone else had done it first. Then he heard the song and felt it didn't live up to the billing so he would REALLY show them what "dirty" and "raw" was.
oooh you out-music-knowledged me. i could have sworn it was about a Stones song :lol
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They didn't make my list, but they absolutely deserve to be here. I remember reading a comment about their impact to music was that they basically created the genre of rock and roll. Hard to argue that. Without a doubt, they were pioneers, and had the greatest impact of any band in the history of rock, perhaps in the history of music in general.
I had no idea Chuck Berry was a Beatle
Not an unfair comment. John Lennon IDOLIZED Chuck Berry, and I think would wholeheartedly agree with you.
(I don't know that for a fact, I never talked to him about it, but he was effusive in interviews about his love for Chuck Berry; and The Beatles covered I think 8 or 10 different Berry songs studio and live. And then there's this: https://www.facebook.com/MusicWorldGroup/videos/1700844050069851/)
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But even then... The White Album was largely written in India in early '68 (February, March) and demo'd at George's house in May (by the way, anyone looking for the roots of the Beatles, get the "Escher Demos" from the deluxe White Album package from a year or so ago; it's on the 3CD set version as well as the super-mega-6CD version).
It might have been somewhat contemporaneous, but clearly the impetus to get back to roots was in The Beatles camp first.
There's a great story about Mick being so jazzed at their new work, that he threw a huge party after the recording of Beggar's Banquet was done, in August of '68 and McCartney showed up with an acetate of their new single, "Hey Jude" and ruined the mood of everyone in the Stones' camp. :)
Isn't Helter Skelter a Macca tune knowingly written to compete with some of the edgier music the Stones had been making?
The Who. Townshend called "I Can See For Miles" the dirtiest, rawest song The Who had ever done, so Paul was bummed that it was a great idea but someone else had done it first. Then he heard the song and felt it didn't live up to the billing so he would REALLY show them what "dirty" and "raw" was.
oooh you out-music-knowledged me. i could have sworn it was about a Stones song :lol
Dude, I'm not very good at many things - most things; almost all things if you ask my wife (I kid! I kid!) - but I slay at Beatles trivia.
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i find the beatles a bit overrated and didn't put them on my list but it's not a surprise they'd wind up on any large group of people's favorites, they're just that big!
i would disagree that they're the most influential band. i'd say you could even make an argument the rolling stones are more influential (tho i don't even think the stones are the most influential)
as someone who actually does like their music (tho not enough to rank them in this list) i don't think it's fair to say that because I don't care for them means i think they're overrated. i actually like them, lol.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
? why is what i wrote so confusing lol.
to make it as painfully clear as i can:
I like the Beatles. I think they're great. They don't personally make my list in this thread, but I also understand why they made the overall listing.
It's also entirely possible that I can have that belief and also think the band is overrated. Overrated just means that society at large holds them in higher regard than they are due (in your opinion). It would very easily follow that if I like or enjoy a band, but wouldn't say they are a "Top 25" band, that constantly seeing them near or at the top of a lot of lists like this would make them "overrated". Overrated is not a comment or remark on the quality of the music or how much one personally enjoys it. It's simply an observation of how (generally speaking) a group of people regard them in relation to your own regards. If i thought the Beatles were good enough to be in my top 10, then I would also obviously think they are properly rated. I'm so confused as to why this is not translating well
By that standard you're right; I know for me, I don't rate my opinion as meaning all that much to other people, so when I hear "overrated" I interpret it as "rated higher than they should be as compared to any reasonable objective standard". Not any easier a standard than anyone else's, but whatever.
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Dude, I'm not very good at many things
False modesty does not become you, my friend. :)
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Dude, I'm not very good at many things
False modesty does not become you, my friend. :)
I'm going to take that as a complement and run!!! :) :) :) :)
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09. The Beatles
The Beatles were my gateway into rock/popular music. When I was growing up, my sibling nearest in age was 11 1/2 years older. By the time I was cognizant of things outside my own personal world, all of my siblings were out of the house. My parents were significantly older (46 and almost 44 when I was born), so the most "current" music they liked was Frank Sinatra. As a very young kid, I got some exposure to late '60s folk (Peter, Paul & Mary) and things like John Denver, but that was about it. Meanwhile, my schoolmates with siblings who were only slightly older were decorating their Pee-Chees with the KISS and Led Zeppelin logos, and I just stood by not knowing what any of that was about. After 8th grade graduation, my mother and I went and stayed for 3 weeks with my sister and her husband and two small kids in suburban Denver. My "room" was their finished basement, where my sister kept her stereo system and albums. I spent a good chunk of time down in the basement listening to my sister's Beatles albums with headphones. I fell in love, and my birthday gift that year was a stereo with a turntable, a cassette recorder, and an 8-track player. My first purchases were red and blue "greatest hits" albums. I don't listen to the Beatles too much anymore, but I always enjoy when I do. They made my list at #16.
1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. Fates Warning (12) (I'll be very sad if they don't make the list. I'm guessing if they aren't one of the next few picks we won't see them.)
4. LOCK
5. Yes (15) (LOCK)
6. Judas Priest (17) (Slightly better than 50/50)
7. Probably (75%+)
8. At this point, I think there's no chance.
9. See #8
10. No way, eh?
11. Probably 90%+
12. LOCK
13. Helloween (38)
14. UFO (42)
15. Led Zeppelin (10) (I think they're probably a lock, but 17 or higher seems surprising to me)
16. The Beatles (9) (LOCK)
17. At this point, I'm going to say no better than a 20% chance - surprisingly underrated around here
18. See #17
19. Black Sabbath (20)
20. Not a chance
21. I'm probably the only one to submit this artist
22. See #17
23. Probably?
24. Scorpions (46T)
25. See #17
Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeath, Riverside, KISS, Ayreon, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Pain of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed & Cambria, Mastodon, Queen, Tool, Transatlantic, Marillion, Opeth, Van Halen (36), Steven Wilson, Haken
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More catching up, and 2/4 with these four.
Awesome post Luke :tup.
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I don't love The Beatles, but I respect their place on the list.
Also, not to derail the conversation, but since there have now been a few mentions about how The Beatles are rated, I'd like to shout out Bob Dylan, who I presume will not be appearing on this list. Talk about one of the most confusingly rated artists of all time--can anyone think of another artist with a legacy so nearly universally appreciated who's also so popularly detested?
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I don't love The Beatles, but I respect their place on the list.
Also, not to derail the conversation, but since there have now been a few mentions about how The Beatles are rated, I'd like to shout out Bob Dylan, who I presume will not be appearing on this list. Talk about one of the most confusingly rated artists of all time--can anyone think of another artist with a legacy so nearly universally appreciated who's also so popularly detested?
Bruce Springsteen is another in this camp for me. Really don't understand the appeal of either.
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I'm not very familiar with Springsteen, though I do like Nebraska. Clearly the voices are a major factor in both cases, and especially for Dylan.
I can appreciate why a band like the Beatles, but not Bob Dylan, would get the appreciation of a forum that leans toward prog rock and metal, but still... as far as influence goes, theres not much, if anything, between them. If anything, I would favor Dylan for his songwriting and longevity.
I guess I'm just a little bit aggrieved :lol
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Also, while I made the "Number 9" joke in my earlier post, the self-titled album also celebrates turning 55 years old today!
-Marc.
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Jungleland is basically Springsteen doing Prog.
I have never disliked his voice, although I can understand why some don't care for it. I think both as a songwriter and just many of the musicians he's had in his band elevates a lot of his music to me.
Also, the film Blinded By the Light kind of adds some appeal to Springsteen's music in some ways.
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I saw Blinded By the Light (and also Western Stars) and still don't really "get" Springsteen myself. I guess I understand the appeal for certain types of listeners, but even despite him having a saxophonist, everything I've heard so far just doesn't connect with me. Some artists maybe just aren't for particular people.
I don't love The Beatles, but I respect their place on the list.
Also, not to derail the conversation, but since there have now been a few mentions about how The Beatles are rated, I'd like to shout out Bob Dylan, who I presume will not be appearing on this list. Talk about one of the most confusingly rated artists of all time--can anyone think of another artist with a legacy so nearly universally appreciated who's also so popularly detested?
I already effectively wrote you an essay on this, but for everyone else, I think it's that he's praised/criticized for separate skills (songwriting, lyricism, vocal delivery, maybe band/instrumentation arrangements?), with arguably a far wider gap between them than most other famous musicians.
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Hush now, don't your cry, we've come across number 8
08. Queensryche
Rate Your Music Profile! (https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/queensryche)
Spotify Profile (https://open.spotify.com/artist/2OgUPVlWYgGBGMefZgGvCO?si=DZMVHhokQeyOEC_LnQuz4w)
Monthly Spotify Streams: 1,057,030
Highest Finish: 1 (WardySI, Zoom E)
Number of top 10 finishes: 7
Number of Lists appeared on: 14 (DragonAttck, Dream Team, jingle.boy, pg1067, wolfking, devieira73, jammindude, Trav86, Setlist Scotty, WilliamMunny, WardySI, bosk1, Zoom E, nick_z)
One of my other, other favorite threads on this forum is Samsara's Queensryche Discography Thread (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50337.0) (also a great book here (https://www.amazon.com/Building-Empire-Queensr%C3%BFche-James-Beach-ebook/dp/B09KDPR2Y2/ref=sr_1_3?crid=9JTQ8WR0IMY2&keywords=queensryche+building+empires&qid=1700746724&sprefix=building+empires%2Caps%2C105&sr=8-3).) I like Queensryche but don't love them. To me they are far too inconsistent to make my list but with that said they have some absolute bangers. Personally I think the best era was the DeGarmo/Tate and its what I return to the most. Not surprised they made the list but a bit suprised they made it into the top 10.
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Haven't listened to them in ages, but I recall being quite into Operation Mindcrime many years ago, and then on Promised Land, but that's about it.
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I know too little about their whole discography to rank them on any list, I mainly just listen to their stuff from 1986-1994 whenever I feel like listening to QR.
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O:M is an incredible album, and I like a number of their others as well, but really need to spend more time with them. They're also fascinating in being one of the rare bands that can rejuvenate itself with a new vocalist. La Torre is great with them as well as on his solo material.
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My #13. That run of albums from the EP to Empire and then the last 4 starting with the self-titled are just so so good. Amazing production jobs on O:M and Empire especially, some of my favorite records sonically.
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Queensryche is a band that has two albums that are desert island albums, but am mostly ambivalent to the rest, with many albums even sucking.
It's hard for me to consider what is masquerading around as Queensryche...Queensryche. Just two out of 5 members and one is a fucking bassist.
They didn't make my list.
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One of my favorite band. 1984 -> 1994 is stellar material, with one of the most gifted singer/performer in the hard rock/metal scene. And the 5 album of this era are very distinct, in sound and style. Then the Tate era is uninspired stuff, I'm not a grunge/alternative fan. Since Latorre, mostly good stuff, but the real magic is gone. The 2013 st album could have been very very good with a few more time in studio to polish the songs.
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Love Operation Mindcrime, never heard anything else. :lol
Any recommendations?
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A very expected choice, and at a fairly expected spot. Had they broken up after Promised land, they would have been in the overall top five. :P ;D
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Operation: Mindcrime is great. That’s all I got.
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O:M (and O:L) are god tier. Top 10 AOTY for me. O:L may be my favorite live recording/DVD ever. Pre'94 QR would've ranked higher, but even with the tripe between HITNF and S/T (ie, Toddryche), they're a top band in my list.
25. Queen (23)
24. Van Halen (13)
23. Nada
22. Nope
21. Uh-uh
20. Queensryche (8) / <99% certain>
19. Nah
18. No
17. Guaranteed
16. I could be the only one that voted for them
15. I'm definitely the only one that voted for them
14. Fo Sho
13. Evergrey (43)
12. I'm not sure why I even voted for them!
11. Nightwish (40)
10. Me and King only
9. Nope
8. Symphony-X (50)
7. Highly unlikely, and I'm stunned they didn't make the Top 50.
6. Spock's Beard (28)
5. Criminally, no
4. Ayreon (29)
3. Without a doubt
2. Bet my annual salary
1. Led Zeppelin (10) <99% certain>
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i've only heard Operation Mindcrime about one time and it was because of DT, lol. I should check out more of their stuff though
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Hush now, don't your cry, we've come across number 8
08. Queensryche
Rate Your Music Profile! (https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/queensryche)
Spotify Profile (https://open.spotify.com/artist/2OgUPVlWYgGBGMefZgGvCO?si=DZMVHhokQeyOEC_LnQuz4w)
Monthly Spotify Streams: 1,057,030
Highest Finish: 1 (WardySI, Zoom E)
Number of top 10 finishes: 7
Number of Lists appeared on: 14 (DragonAttck, Dream Team, jingle.boy, pg1067, wolfking, devieira73, jammindude, Trav86, Setlist Scotty, WilliamMunny, WardySI, bosk1, Zoom E, nick_z)
One of my other, other favorite threads on this forum is Samsara's Queensryche Discography Thread (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50337.0) (also a great book here (https://www.amazon.com/Building-Empire-Queensr%C3%BFche-James-Beach-ebook/dp/B09KDPR2Y2/ref=sr_1_3?crid=9JTQ8WR0IMY2&keywords=queensryche+building+empires&qid=1700746724&sprefix=building+empires%2Caps%2C105&sr=8-3).) I like Queensryche but don't love them. To me they are far too inconsistent to make my list but with that said they have some absolute bangers. Personally I think the best era was the DeGarmo/Tate and its what I return to the most. Not surprised they made the list but a bit suprised they made it into the top 10.
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
NR Tool
NR Black Sabbath
NR Judas Priest
NR Opeth
NR Van Halen
NR Fates Warning
NR Led Zeppelin
NR Queensryche
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
27 The Beatles
26 Queen
25 ?
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20 Riverside
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14 Steven Wilson
13 Yes
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10 Ayreon
09 Haken
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07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
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03 Transatlantic
02
01 Big Big Train
Queensryche, like Fates Warning before, is another early prog metal band I tried to get into back when I first discovered Dream Theater, and unlike FW, I actually bought and own a few albums by QR. Sadly, they just never stuck with me and I've never really gone back to give them much of another chance..
-Marc.
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Not surprised they made the list, surprised to see them in Top 10, personally they wouldn't have made my Top 100. Operation: Mindcrime is very good but even then I don't listen to it anymore.
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Queensryche had an amazing run, from the start through Promised Land, but fell off the map after that and crashed pretty hard once the turn of the century hit. They wouldn't have made my top 25, even with having three all-timers (Rage for Order, Mindcrime and Promised Land), but they would have been in the tier that just missed the cut.
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Queensryche had an amazing run, from the start through Promised Land, but fell off the map after that and crashed pretty hard once the turn of the century hit. They wouldn't have made my top 25, even with having three all-timers (Rage for Order, Mindcrime and Promised Land), but they would have been in the tier that just missed the cut.
What about Empire?
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Empire is very good, but not an all-timer for me.
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Queensryche absolutely should have made my list on the strength of Promised Land and all of the albums before it. And I've enjoyed the Todd albums a good bit too. Especially The Verdict. I made my list too fast, but glad to see others made up for it.
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Queensryche absolutely should have made my list on the strength of Promised Land
Promised Land is one of the reasons that Queensryche did not make my list.
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Queensryche were a big part of my early prog and metal experience, and there was a time when I felt Geoff Tate was the gold standard for vocalists. Empire is an amazing album and still one of my favorites. Mindcrime is also great, and Promised Land and Rage for Order are also strong albums on either side of that run. But that’s really where my interest in QR starts and ends. They got some consideration just because of how big they were for me for a time, and they would have made my top 50 for sure, but they did not make my top 25.
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QR is my #5 band based on the 3 incredible masterpieces from Rage to Empire and the excellent run from EP to Hear in The Now Frontier. My fave band around 91'. A lot of criativity and diversity in their original configuration, that ended too soon, unfortunately.
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Empire and O:M are stellar. I don't know the others
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Great moments but very short, as my wife uses to say.
I always think about QR's career as if Deam Theater broke up after FII.
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Still at 9
Queensrÿche
As with Marillion, there was a time when they were my number one band. For me up to and including Promised Land.
After that they have not connected with me at anything like that level.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Haken, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Queensrÿche
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23
22
21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
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19 Steven Wilson (favorite album: The Raven That Refused To Sing, favorite song: The Raven That Refused To Sing)
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
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15 Yes (Favorite album: Close to the Edge, favorite song:Roundabout)
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
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8
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6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
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4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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Empire and O:M are stellar. I don't know the others
Rage for Order and Promised Land are both beyond amazing.
And don't listen to anyone who tries to tell you otherwise. :biggrin: :biggrin:
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Empire and O:M are stellar. I don't know the others
Rage for Order and Promised Land are both beyond amazing.
And don't listen to anyone who tries to tell you otherwise. :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quoted for truth!
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Queensyche are fine I guess.
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Don't mind what I've heard from Queensryche, but never dove deep into their output or purchased any of their albums.
Question for ReaperKK -- with 46 people entering the countdown, how many people listed a band at #1 that did not make it into the official Top 50 countdown?
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Empire and O:M are stellar. I don't know the others
Rage for Order and Promised Land are both beyond amazing.
And don't listen to anyone who tries to tell you otherwise. :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quoted for truth!
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Figured they'd make it on the strength of Mindcrime alone.
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Empire and O:M are stellar. I don't know the others
Rage for Order and Promised Land are both beyond amazing.
And don't listen to anyone who tries to tell you otherwise. :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quoted for truth!
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Queensyche are fine I guess.
This.
I have seen them live when they opened for Heaven and Hell in 2007. I hate to say it, but it was boring and got followed up by an incredible performance by Alice Cooper and the headliner.
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Empire and O:M are stellar. I don't know the others
Rage for Order and Promised Land are both beyond amazing.
And don't listen to anyone who tries to tell you otherwise. :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quoted for truth!
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Empire and O:M are stellar. I don't know the others
Rage for Order and Promised Land are both beyond amazing.
And don't listen to anyone who tries to tell you otherwise. :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quoted for truth!
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Empire and O:M are stellar. I don't know the others
Rage for Order and Promised Land are both beyond amazing.
And don't listen to anyone who tries to tell you otherwise. :biggrin: :biggrin:
Yes!!!! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
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4 for 4.
I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
D
G
-Haken
I
-Led Zeppelin
M
P
P
Queensryche
R
-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
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I'm getting a little worried Porcupine Tree missed the list entirely because people voted for Steven Wilson instead.
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I'm getting a little worried Porcupine Tree missed the list entirely because people voted for Steven Wilson instead.
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Nope. That’s one of 5 more bands I have as a LOCK. And one of those 5 didn’t even make my list.
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Nope. That’s one of 5 more bands I have as a LOCK. And one of those 5 didn’t even make my list.
Three of the remaining bands failed to make the cut on my list!
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I only have 3 of the last 7 (presumably).
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4 for 4.
I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
D
G
-Haken
I
-Led Zeppelin
M
P
P
Queensryche
R
-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
Can't really argue with this list but just to say if it is correct then I am very surprised the 'G' band has ended up so high. Not because they would never have gotten close on my own list but more because I don't really see them mentioned too much on the forum. But maybe that doesn't matter as I guess it isn't as if they are doing anything these days...
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4 for 4.
I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
D
G
-Haken
I
-Led Zeppelin
M
P
P
Queensryche
R
-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
I wasn't around for submitting my list but I'll play a bit:
The D would be in my Top 5, so alright
The G in my Top 20 but I understand
Ditto the I
The M in Top 30 but can't argue
The P Top 5 again
The other P can't compute unless we're talking about Prokofiev
The R is just appropriate for this forum, can't argue
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I can't figure out what the G and second P are. The rest are no surprise.
Edit: As soon as I hit submit, I realized the second P. :facepalm:
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Hate to spoil, but the G is obviously Gary Glitter.
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Still hoping it is G-UNIT
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I'm getting a little worried Porcupine Tree missed the list entirely because people voted for Steven Wilson instead.
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Avatar quoting became so overused in olden days of yore, but this is just perfect.
Hate to spoil, but the G is obviously Gary Glitter.
Nah, clearly the Goo Goo Dolls had a much stronger foothold here than we all anticipated.
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Grand Funk Railroad.
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A Top 10 Gentle Giant I could actually support
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Gwar
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Gentle Giant I could actually see in a Top 10
Derek Shulman is the man responsible for bringing DT to Atco and putting them on the map in some respects!
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Gaga, Lady
Obviously.
-Marc.
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The I reminded me of a sixth “LOCK”
And now P made me think of the 7th. I’m 99% sure of the final 7.
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After many the results thus far had been starting to worry a little that Queensryche would miss out but once Fates Warning was announced ( :metal) I was convinced they were still to come and in the Top10 at that ;D
Clearly my own #1 so won't go on (and well done too ZoomE), but while there were way too many hit & misses after DeGarmo even most the subpar albums had plenty to chew on and concur the Todd era has been rather great so much so Digital Noise Alliance is arguably my fave QR release since their heyday...
But will always stand by everything from the EP through Promised Land, each one of those still deliver to this day and continue to stand up to anything since IMO!
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No top 100 for Haken or Queensryche
1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. The Beatles
4. Probably not
5. Nope
6. LOCK
7. LOCK
8. Led Zeppelin
9. Van Halen
10. Nope
11. Mastodon
12. Spock's Beard
13. Nope
14. Nope
15. Between the Buried and Me
16. Nope
17. Avenged Sevenfold
18. Opeth
19. Nope
20. Tool
21. Coheed & Cambria
22. LOCK
23. Absolutely nope
24. Nope
25. Megadeth
31. Kiss
34. Queen
38. Transatlantic
79. Black Sabbath
85. Yes
92. Fates Warning
LOCK prediction count: 4/9 - feeling good
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I can't figure out what the G and second P are. The rest are no surprise.
Edit: As soon as I hit submit, I realized the second P. :facepalm:
I think the G is a no brainer. Maybe I'm wrong, but don't think so.
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I can't figure out what the G and second P are. The rest are no surprise.
Edit: As soon as I hit submit, I realized the second P. :facepalm:
I think the G is a no brainer. Maybe I'm wrong, but don't think so.
We're all big Green Day fans.
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Hate to spoil, but the G is obviously Gary Glitter.
Wow, way to spoil the list....
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I can't figure out what the G and second P are. The rest are no surprise.
Edit: As soon as I hit submit, I realized the second P. :facepalm:
I think the G is a no brainer. Maybe I'm wrong, but don't think so.
I think I got it now, don't know why I couldn't think of it sooner.
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Gojira, right? :neverusethis: :sadpanda:
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I was worried Green Carnation was gonna be a stub, but I'm sure DTF will assuage my anxieties very soon.
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Gojira, right? :neverusethis: :sadpanda:
Godsmack, for sure!
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Everyone pls, I am trying to be serious, I think it's the band with the guy who sleeps in September every year.
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I can't figure out what the G and second P are. The rest are no surprise.
Edit: As soon as I hit submit, I realized the second P. :facepalm:
I think the G is a no brainer. Maybe I'm wrong, but don't think so.
Green Carmation
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Gamma Ray
Gus G
Gary Moore
Nah, it's easy. It SHOULD be Gary Moore though.
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Gorillaz!
(even I did not rank Gorillaz)
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Gojira, right? :neverusethis: :sadpanda:
They're kind of a fascinating case where you would think they should be more popular here. After all, they're a prog metal band with almost 2 million monthly Spotify listeners. In comparison, Symphony X is 150k, The Dear Hunter is 145k, Agalloch is 100k, Big Big Train is 20k, etc. I could still see them even making the top 100, but they don't seem to have quite as much appeal to tastes here.
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Gojira, right? :neverusethis: :sadpanda:
They're kind of a fascinating case where you would think they should be more popular here. After all, they're a prog metal band with almost 2 million monthly Spotify listeners. In comparison, Symphony X is 150k, The Dear Hunter is 145k, Agalloch is 100k, Big Big Train is 20k, etc. I could still see them even making the top 100, but they don't seem to have quite as much appeal to tastes here.
I bet they made a lot of top 50s, but not top 25s, obviously.
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It would be amazing if it were Ghost. But obviously, it won't be Ghost. ;D
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It would be amazing if it were Ghost. But obviously, it won't be Ghost. ;D
Ghost are infinitely better than the band we're gonna get.
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It would be amazing if it were Ghost. But obviously, it won't be Ghost. ;D
Ghost are infinitely better than the band we're gonna get.
TASTESTM!!!
Every post this page has raised Kev's blood pressure a couple of points. :lol
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It would be amazing if it were Ghost. But obviously, it won't be Ghost. ;D
Ghost are infinitely better than the band we're gonna get.
Wow. So Ghost likely aren't going to make it. I think that's a pretty big surprise.
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Ghost made my Top 25 actually.
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Ghost made my Top 25 actually.
They'd definitely make my Top 100, possibly Top 50, great band.
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It would be amazing if it were Ghost. But obviously, it won't be Ghost. ;D
Ghost are infinitely better than the band we're gonna get.
Wow. So Ghost likely aren't going to make it. I think that's a pretty big surprise.
Surprise they don't make the Top 50, or Top 25? I could see them making the Top 50, but I'd be more surprised if they *did* make the top 25.
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Regarding Gojira and the like, it's a funny thing, we get accused of being a bunch of old fogeys around here yet look at all the modern metal bands on the list that are faves of a younger generation. I personally cannot get into that sound at all, it's like they either intentionally or unintentionally misunderstand what made all those classic metal bands great and replace it with obnoxious vocals and metalcore riffs. So there's actually an even mix of older and newer bands.
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Gojira made my top 25.... awesome band both studio and live
As for the G I believe is refered to I only ever bouught a single. Not one of my favorite bands....
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Pre 1997, Queensryche would have been in my top 10, maybe even top 5. Then DeGarmo left, and it went downhill fairly fast. They've recovered a bit since the Tate split, but at this point, I think they're in my top 50 at best. Can't deny the strength of the run from the EP to Promised Land, though.
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Speaking G's, here is a G for number 7
07. Genesis
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Spotify Profile (https://open.spotify.com/artist/3CkvROUTQ6nRi9yQOcsB50?si=sMQLw9OJSu2G1SEplZF5dA)
Monthly Spotify Streams: 6,901,786
Highest Finish: 1 (SomeoneLikeHim)
Number of top 10 finishes: 7
Number of Lists appeared on: 14 (DragonAttack, HOF, Metropolaris, pg1067, romdrums, Stadler, Dave_Manchester, Zydar, jammindude, The Letter M, TheHoveringSojourn808, CharlesPL, The Great Zo, SomeoneLIkeHim)
I've tried with Genesis and it's just not for me. They are one of the few bands that I struggle to get through a single record. With that said though it's no surprise they made it on the list, and now I realize why there is a big call to have a Genesis countdown (which I'll do in the new year :)).
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I typically enjoy pretty much everything up to Invisible Touch, but I can't say I LOVE everything. I don't think I ever proactively think "I'm in the mood for some Genesis". They've got a bunch of A-list songs obviously, but rarely do I sit down with an entire Genesis album.
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Still at 9
Genesis
Hey, that was a much better G than the one I thought might show up.
Love 70ties Genesis. But then they loose me unlike Yes where I still appreciate a lot of the newer material.
Did not have them on my list as I can't justify that only based on the 70ties output however good that is.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Haken, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Queensrÿche, Genesis
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23
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21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
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19 Steven Wilson (favorite album: The Raven That Refused To Sing, favorite song: The Raven That Refused To Sing)
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
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15 Yes (Favorite album: Close to the Edge, favorite song:Roundabout)
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
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6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
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4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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#10 for me. Love Nursery Cryme through Duke. Everything else is fine, but I just don’t revisit it ever.
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25. Between the Buried and Me
20. Avenged Sevenfold
17. Spocks Beard
15. Opeth
14. Ayreon
13. Haken
12. Marillion
11. Steven Wilson
10. The Beatles
9. The Dear Hunter
8. Big Big Train
6. Pain of Salvation
4. Neal Morse
3. Transatlantic
1. Genesis
There we go, my number 1! Very happy with a #7 spot, I was expecting them to land somewhere from 11-20.
Genesis, along with some early Marillion, was my first exposure to prog via my dad. They haven't always been my number 1 but this time when I put this list together it just felt right. The run of albums from Nursery Cryme to Wind and Wuthering is absolutely amazing and there is plenty to love outside of that as well. Nobody writes chord progressions quite like Tony Banks. :hefdaddy
Firth of Fifth, Supper's Ready, The Lamia, One for the Vine, Afterglow. So many incredible songs. :heart
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I love Selling England by the Pound. That said, when I'm in the mood for classic prog I gravitate more toward Yes, or to a lesser extent King Crimson
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I had Genesis at #12, one of my very favourites of the classic 70s prog bands. Selling England By The Pound is a desert island album for me, just brilliant all the way through. Although the Collins era had bigger hits and were more commercially successful, I much prefer the Gabriel stuff if one has to choose.
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finally got another hit after what felt like weeks, lol
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24
23 Miles Davis
22 Black Sabbath
21 Godspeed You! Black Emperor
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18
17 King Crimson
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15 Agalloch
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13 Genesis
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10
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6 Peter Gabriel
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2
1 Frank Zappa
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I didn't think Genesis would finish this high, but it didn't seem likely that they'd miss the top 50 altogether, so here we go. They'd be in that 11-15 range for me, and I have been listening to them a lot lately. Great band, across almost all eras (the last album with the different singer was a miss). The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway has become my favorite album by the band, and how many bands can say their three best songs are as great as theirs (Firth of Fifth, The Cinema Show, Supper's Ready)? Not many.
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I love the 70s Genesis, but I haven't checked the stuff they released after Hackett's departure. Interesting to see them in the top seven.
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Genesis were ranked number 3 for me, having just been displaced from their long held second spot by BBT mostly on account of BBT still being active and Genesis having retired long ago for all intents and purposes.
Genesis are kind of like my Beatles, or at least how I imagine people who are into The Beatles feel about them. Just the scope of the music they created in a relatively short period and the type of influence they were on me and many of the bands I love. Between the band’s catalog and all the individual members’ solo work, a significant percentage of my CD collection is from Genesis or a member of Genesis. And not just Gabriel and Collins. I’m a big fan of Hackett’s early solo stuff, Rutherford’s first solo album is tremendous (and Mike+The Mechanics is ok), Tony Banks’ stuff less so but still interesting. Ant Phillips’ first solo album is really good too. I could cheat and include all of NDV’s stuff, but I won’t go that far
I love all eras of Genesis, having grown up with the 80s and 90s hits, and later on getting into the 70s prog stuff. Some of the stuff with Gabriel is just legendary, but if I’m honest I enjoy the Collins era more. The sweet spot is the run from Trick of the Tail through Abacab, with my favorite Genesis album being Duke. I love the four piece era with Hackett, but the three piece era is still great, with Abacab and the self-titled also being favorites. I even enjoy most of Calling All Stations (plus they had several great unreleased tracks from those album sessions).
Genesis were both incredibly musical and ambitious while still just having great songs. They are unmatched as songwriters in terms of that early prog scene. But also everyone in the band was an outstanding player, and I think they sometimes get overshadowed as players by a band like Yes, who were maybe a bit more technical. But Genesis blended chops with feel and story telling so well. Tony Banks is easily my favorite keyboard player, and a huge reason why Genesis are so great. Collins has the perfect blend of chops and swing. Rutherford has such a meaty bass tone, and that awesome blend of 12 string and bass pedals. Hackett is less of a flashy guy and more of guy who paints with sounds. Just a wonderful collection of musicians.
I’ve actually been on a bit of a Genesis kick lately, but I’m gonna spin some more today on my day off!
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Speaking G's, here is a G for number 7
07. Genesis
Rate Your Music Profile! (https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/genesis)
Spotify Profile (https://open.spotify.com/artist/3CkvROUTQ6nRi9yQOcsB50?si=sMQLw9OJSu2G1SEplZF5dA)
Monthly Spotify Streams: 6,901,786
Highest Finish: 1 (SomeoneLikeHim)
Number of top 10 finishes: 7
Number of Lists appeared on: 14 (DragonAttack, HOF, Metropolaris, pg1067, romdrums, Stadler, Dave_Manchester, Zydar, jammindude, The Letter M, TheHoveringSojourn808, CharlesPL, The Great Zo, SomeoneLIkeHim)
I've tried with Genesis and it's just not for me. They are one of the few bands that I struggle to get through a single record. With that said though it's no surprise they made it on the list, and now I realize why there is a big call to have a Genesis countdown (which I'll do in the new year :)).
NR Miles Davis
NR Symphony X
NR Agalloch
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Frank Zappa
NR Evergrey
NR UFO
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Nightwish
NR Katatonia
NR Helloween
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Anathema
NR Radiohead
NR Peter Gabriel
NR Megadeth
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Devin Townsend
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Mastodon
NR Tool
NR Black Sabbath
NR Judas Priest
NR Opeth
NR Van Halen
NR Fates Warning
NR Led Zeppelin
NR Queensryche
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
27 The Beatles
26 Queen
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20 Riverside
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14 Steven Wilson
13 Yes
12 Genesis
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10 Ayreon
09 Haken
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07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
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03 Transatlantic
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01 Big Big Train
I must be semi-clairvoyant because I put on Wind & Wuthering before passing out last night. That's like the fourth or fifth time I've put on music related to the next day's band.
Genesis were one of the foundational bands in my prog discovery journey, and along with Yes, have been one of the few 70s prog bands I'll continually go back to on a regular basis.
Looks like with six spots left, I am now 10/25 for my list, but if I include my 26-30, then I'm 14/30, almost half, which is pretty nuts!
-Marc.
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I must be semi-clairvoyant because I put on Wind & Wuthering before passing out last night. That's like the fourth or fifth time I've put on music related to the next day's band.
Well, you had a 1/7 shot :lol ! I'll bet I could narrow down tomorrow's entry to 1 of 3 bands.
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21 Transatlantic
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19 Megadeth
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13 YES
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9 Marillion
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Honestly surprised at how high they ended up. Thought they would be in Top 15 or Top 20.
Genesis did not make my list although I do enjoy some of their music.
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Top 50 artists on my list so far (only 2 in the top 25 though):
19. King Crimson
8. Peter Gabriel
7. Spock's Beard
3. Genesis
2. Big Big Train
1. Marillion
Still 2 more to go.
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I've never really gotten into Genesis. They're obviously legendary and no problems with them being included. What I've listened to of the old stuff just doesn't generally move me. I like some of the Phil Collins stuff but that's not the good stuff, according to the fans I've heard from. :)
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Glad to see the G I assumed up there.
The classic five pieces line-up is responsible for one of the best album streaks in rock history. I am - more literally than you may think - a child of 70's prog and I must say Genesis is absolutely said era's and genre's act aging best in my rotation (pantheon excluded).
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I've never really gotten into Genesis. They're obviously legendary and no problems with them being included. What I've listened to of the old stuff just doesn't generally move me. I like some of the Phil Collins stuff but that's not the good stuff, according to the fans I've heard from. :)
I already mentioned that I prefer the Collins era to Gabriel (but love both). A lot of people equate the Collins era with Invisible Touch (which I do like), but that was really the tail end of his run with the band. The early stuff with him fronting the band is excellent and still super proggy while also having a little less weirdness than the Gabriel era. Duke does a really great job of blending the prog and pop sides of Genesis.
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I think I should give Genesis another chance one day.
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This was one of my LOCKS. But as we creep closer to the top 5, I’m suddenly curious about the “LOCK” band that I personally did not include, but I know is extremely highly regarded in prog circles and this forum in particular. A certain O band….
As far as Genesis, I had them at 14. I didn’t discover them until probably the late 90s or the early 00s, but those Gabriel albums are absolutely gold. I wish I had heard that stuff earlier in life. And seeing The Musical Box twice was a treat. One Lamb show and one Selling England show.
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Genesis is a weird on for me, they would've been on the cusp of making my list...maybe, even though they directly inspired my #1 and #3 bands.
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I've never really gotten into Genesis. They're obviously legendary and no problems with them being included. What I've listened to of the old stuff just doesn't generally move me. I like some of the Phil Collins stuff but that's not the good stuff, according to the fans I've heard from. :)
I already mentioned that I prefer the Collins era to Gabriel (but love both). A lot of people equate the Collins era with Invisible Touch (which I do like), but that was really the tail end of his run with the band. The early stuff with him fronting the band is excellent and still super proggy while also having a little less weirdness than the Gabriel era. Duke does a really great job of blending the prog and pop sides of Genesis.
Really? I mean, that one probably had the most commercial (as measured by MTV plays :lol) success, but I don't equate the Collins era solely to that album.
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I've never really gotten into Genesis. They're obviously legendary and no problems with them being included. What I've listened to of the old stuff just doesn't generally move me. I like some of the Phil Collins stuff but that's not the good stuff, according to the fans I've heard from. :)
I already mentioned that I prefer the Collins era to Gabriel (but love both). A lot of people equate the Collins era with Invisible Touch (which I do like), but that was really the tail end of his run with the band. The early stuff with him fronting the band is excellent and still super proggy while also having a little less weirdness than the Gabriel era. Duke does a really great job of blending the prog and pop sides of Genesis.
Really? I mean, that one probably had the most commercial (as measured by MTV plays :lol) success, but I don't equate the Collins era solely to that album.
Yeah, very much so. Maybe more so Abacab and beyond, but I can’t tell you how many online discussions I’ve had with people who only like the Gabriel era and think Collins single handedly forced the band to make top 40 material once he became the singer.
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I had Genesis at #11. They are my favorite of the classic-era British prog bands.
Selling England is a prog masterpiece, and a top-10 all time album for me. The Cinema Show is about as good as prog gets, especially for someone like me who is really into keyboards and the particulars of chord progressions. Tony Banks does it as good as anyone ever has.
Foxtrot, ATOTT, Nursery Cryme ... all prog classics. I struggle a bit with The Lamb, which goes a little far off the deep end with being weird, and doesn't quite hold my attention straight through. Wind and Wuthering starts a general step downward, but has one of my very favorite Genesis tracks: One for the Vine.
Duke -- a couple bad tracks excluded -- is another favorite. It's a remarkable blend of pop and prog with a lot of energy -- not just their strongest later-era album, but one that still sounds fresh decades later.
Finally, for a long time, I completely dismissed the final four Collins-era albums. I erroneously believed they were nothing but lousy, poppy trash. A few years ago, I gave those albums a shot, and realized the truth -- they're not all bad, they're just wildly inconsistent. The bad songs are really really bad. But there's some fantastic material, too. As an experiment, I took the four-album run from Abacab to We Can't Dance (b-sides included) and cut it into two 10-song albums, and I think they'd stand up with some of the band's best work.
25. (no chance)
24. (no chance)
23. (LOCK)
22. (no chance)
21. (not likely)
20. (no chance)
19. Peter Gabriel
18. (no chance)
17. (no chance)
16. (no chance)
15. (not likely)
14. (probably in) (nope, this one's gonna be wrong)
13. Yes
12. (no chance)
11. Genesis
10. (not likely)
9. (not likely)
8. (not likely)
7. Haken
6. (probably in)
5. (LOCK)
4. Spock's Beard
3. Transatlantic
2. (LOCK)
1. (not likely)
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Finally, for a long time, I completely dismissed the final four Collins-era albums. I erroneously believed they were nothing but lousy, poppy trash. A few years ago, I gave those albums a shot, and realized the truth -- they're not all bad, they're just wildly inconsistent. The bad songs are really really bad. But there's some fantastic material, too. As an experiment, I took the four-album run from Abacab to We Can't Dance (b-sides included) and cut it into two 10-song albums, and I think they'd stand up with some of the band's best work.
Yeah, a lot of great material from that era ended up as B-sides, which was an unfortunate side effect of trying to sell more singles and favoring less proggy stuff on the albums (the full Dodo suite from Abacab and Do The Neurotic from Invisible Touch the two big examples).
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I was really into the Collins era and some of his solo material for awhile, and the Gabriel material took a bit longer to grow on me. Honestly there's still quite a bit I need to mine from it, which I hope to get to at some point.
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I've never really gotten into Genesis. They're obviously legendary and no problems with them being included. What I've listened to of the old stuff just doesn't generally move me. I like some of the Phil Collins stuff but that's not the good stuff, according to the fans I've heard from. :)
I already mentioned that I prefer the Collins era to Gabriel (but love both). A lot of people equate the Collins era with Invisible Touch (which I do like), but that was really the tail end of his run with the band. The early stuff with him fronting the band is excellent and still super proggy while also having a little less weirdness than the Gabriel era. Duke does a really great job of blending the prog and pop sides of Genesis.
Really? I mean, that one probably had the most commercial (as measured by MTV plays :lol) success, but I don't equate the Collins era solely to that album.
Yeah, very much so. Maybe more so Abacab and beyond, but I can’t tell you how many online discussions I’ve had with people who only like the Gabriel era and think Collins single handedly forced the band to make top 40 material once he became the singer.
+1 to this. The progressive rock community may acknowledge the entire catalog to varying degrees, but for the public at large, Genesis does not exist at all outside of the Duke-Invisible Touch run. And Duke only exists for Misunderstanding and maybe Turn It On.
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I've never really gotten into Genesis. They're obviously legendary and no problems with them being included. What I've listened to of the old stuff just doesn't generally move me. I like some of the Phil Collins stuff but that's not the good stuff, according to the fans I've heard from. :)
I already mentioned that I prefer the Collins era to Gabriel (but love both). A lot of people equate the Collins era with Invisible Touch (which I do like), but that was really the tail end of his run with the band. The early stuff with him fronting the band is excellent and still super proggy while also having a little less weirdness than the Gabriel era. Duke does a really great job of blending the prog and pop sides of Genesis.
Really? I mean, that one probably had the most commercial (as measured by MTV plays :lol) success, but I don't equate the Collins era solely to that album.
Yeah, very much so. Maybe more so Abacab and beyond, but I can’t tell you how many online discussions I’ve had with people who only like the Gabriel era and think Collins single handedly forced the band to make top 40 material once he became the singer.
+1 to this. The progressive rock community may acknowledge the entire catalog to varying degrees, but for the public at large, Genesis does not exist at all outside of the Duke-Invisible Touch run. And Duke only exists for Misunderstanding and maybe Turn It On.
You can run it back to Follow You, Follow Me on ATTWT, but yeah, I think there is a large chunk of prog fans who like the general public think of the Collins era as only containing those type of hit songs, which is ignoring a lot of great prog from that era.
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A Trick of the Tail is their peak for me. "Ripples" in particular is one of their absolute best songs.
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I've never really gotten into Genesis. They're obviously legendary and no problems with them being included. What I've listened to of the old stuff just doesn't generally move me. I like some of the Phil Collins stuff but that's not the good stuff, according to the fans I've heard from. :)
I already mentioned that I prefer the Collins era to Gabriel (but love both). A lot of people equate the Collins era with Invisible Touch (which I do like), but that was really the tail end of his run with the band. The early stuff with him fronting the band is excellent and still super proggy while also having a little less weirdness than the Gabriel era. Duke does a really great job of blending the prog and pop sides of Genesis.
Really? I mean, that one probably had the most commercial (as measured by MTV plays :lol) success, but I don't equate the Collins era solely to that album.
Yeah, very much so. Maybe more so Abacab and beyond, but I can’t tell you how many online discussions I’ve had with people who only like the Gabriel era and think Collins single handedly forced the band to make top 40 material once he became the singer.
+1 to this. The progressive rock community may acknowledge the entire catalog to varying degrees, but for the public at large, Genesis does not exist at all outside of the Duke-Invisible Touch run. And Duke only exists for Misunderstanding and maybe Turn It On.
I can get on board with this, but that is different than to what HOF said. I mean, it's not like much of their 70s output was exactly radio friendly for the 80s.
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+1 to Duke, that album absolutely FUCKS
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I find choosing among Genesis songs and albums to be harder than for most bands. But I’ll make an attempt at my favorite track from each album.
Albums:
- Stagnation
- The Musical Box (or Seven Stones)
- Can-Utility and the Coastliner (or Supper’s Ready)
- Cinema Show
- The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
- Los Endos (or Entangled or Squonk)
- Unquiet Slumbers for Sleepers in That Silent Earth (or Blood on the Rooftops, or it’s really hard to pick a favorite here)
- Snowbound
- Duchesse (another impossible one to choose from)
- No Reply At All
- Home By The Sea (both parts, but especially part 2)
- Tonight, Tonight, Tonight
- Fading Lights
- Uncertain Weather (or The Dividing Line)
B-Sides (just picking a few but there are lots more good ones):
- You Might Recall
- Submarine
- Do The Neurotic
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I've never really gotten into Genesis. They're obviously legendary and no problems with them being included. What I've listened to of the old stuff just doesn't generally move me. I like some of the Phil Collins stuff but that's not the good stuff, according to the fans I've heard from. :)
I already mentioned that I prefer the Collins era to Gabriel (but love both). A lot of people equate the Collins era with Invisible Touch (which I do like), but that was really the tail end of his run with the band. The early stuff with him fronting the band is excellent and still super proggy while also having a little less weirdness than the Gabriel era. Duke does a really great job of blending the prog and pop sides of Genesis.
Really? I mean, that one probably had the most commercial (as measured by MTV plays :lol) success, but I don't equate the Collins era solely to that album.
Yeah, very much so. Maybe more so Abacab and beyond, but I can’t tell you how many online discussions I’ve had with people who only like the Gabriel era and think Collins single handedly forced the band to make top 40 material once he became the singer.
+1 to this. The progressive rock community may acknowledge the entire catalog to varying degrees, but for the public at large, Genesis does not exist at all outside of the Duke-Invisible Touch run. And Duke only exists for Misunderstanding and maybe Turn It On.
I can get on board with this, but that is different than to what HOF said. I mean, it's not like much of their 70s output was exactly radio friendly for the 80s.
Well, I meant more that they equate Collins with those sort of hits like on Invisible Touch.
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Yeah, very much so. Maybe more so Abacab and beyond, but I can’t tell you how many online discussions I’ve had with people who only like the Gabriel era and think Collins single handedly forced the band to make top 40 material once he became the singer.
I think that can probably be chalked up to people being ignorant of the band dynamic (does anyone really think Tony Banks was forced to do anything for a solid decade? :lol) and/or the prog fans needing a scapegoat for "their" prog band going the pop rock route in the 80s, and since Collins also had his hugely successful solo career, he's the easy target.
What is unique about Genesis is that it's not like they did an abrupt turn. When you listen to the albums in order, you can hear the slow move to more accessible songs, while still retaining the prog elements of the early days, even if they came in smaller doses and in the form of the deep cuts rather than the "hits." Even the albums with their biggest hits (s/t, Invisible Touch, WCD) had some majorly proggy songs on those records.
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Genesis came in at 2 for me. Listening to Three Sides Live as a kid is one of my core musical memories, and that album remains as one of my favorites. Like Phil Collins, I’m left-handed and a drummer, and that left a huge impression on me. Listening to Phil tear it up on the In the Cage medley from that record was massively influential. When I finally had the ability to play along with that on drums, I felt like I had reached the mountain top! Invisible Touch was also a big point in my musical development when it came out. I used to spin it on my Dad’s turntable regularly. I loved how the LP jacket had a physical relief to it. Sonically, I thought the Simmons drums were the coolest thing ever, and the further incorporation of the drum machines sparked my interest in learning how to use those in the music I dreamed of making back then. That album is still one of my favorites!
As I got older, I dove further into their back catalog and discovered all of their classic material, and I learned to love that with equal aplomb. Part of the challenge was finding the old songs that they referenced in their live medleys. It was cool to hear those parts as they were originally recorded!
I don’t know that I have a favorite studio album of theirs, because I love nearly all of it. I’d have to say Seconds Out and Three Sides Live would be my two favorite releases, because I’ve always felt that Genesis seriously leveled up their material in a live setting. My favorite era is definitely the Collins era, which in my opinion, starts at Nursery Cryme and ends at We Can’t Dance. Phil Collins is still one of my main musical heroes, and Tony Banks isn’t too far behind. I’m super glad that I got to see them live in 2021. Phil may have been in rough shape, but the other musicians were still in top shape, and it was great to watch Nic Collins take on the drum throne. Phil was clearly very proud of him, and to me, it was not only watching Phil pass his torch on to his son, but it represented my Dad passing his torch on to me (my dad passed away in 2019), and then me being ready to pass on the torch to my son when he’s ready.
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Genesis came in at 2 for me. Listening to Three Sides Live as a kid is one of my core musical memories, and that album remains as one of my favorites. Like Phil Collins, I’m left-handed and a drummer, and that left a huge impression on me. Listening to Phil tear it up on the In the Cage medley from that record was massively influential. When I finally had the ability to play along with that on drums, I felt like I had reached the mountain top! Invisible Touch was also a big point in my musical development when it came out. I used to spin it on my Dad’s turntable regularly. I loved how the LP jacket had a physical relief to it. Sonically, I thought the Simmons drums were the coolest thing ever, and the further incorporation of the drum machines sparked my interest in learning how to use those in the music I dreamed of making back then. That album is still one of my favorites!
As I got older, I dove further into their back catalog and discovered all of their classic material, and I learned to love that with equal aplomb. Part of the challenge was finding the old songs that they referenced in their live medleys. It was cool to hear those parts as they were originally recorded!
I don’t know that I have a favorite studio album of theirs, because I love nearly all of it. I’d have to say Seconds Out and Three Sides Live would be my two favorite releases, because I’ve always felt that Genesis seriously leveled up their material in a live setting. My favorite era is definitely the Collins era, which in my opinion, starts at Nursery Cryme and ends at We Can’t Dance. Phil Collins is still one of my main musical heroes, and Tony Banks isn’t too far behind. I’m super glad that I got to see them live in 2021. Phil may have been in rough shape, but the other musicians were still in top shape, and it was great to watch Nic Collins take on the drum throne. Phil was clearly very proud of him, and to me, it was not only watching Phil pass his torch on to his son, but it represented my Dad passing his torch on to me (my dad passed away in 2019), and then me being ready to pass on the torch to my son when he’s ready.
i love this post, thank you for sharing! you just missed an opportunity to say "pass on the torch to my son when his supper's ready" :lol
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5 for 5.
4 for 4.
I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
D
-Genesis
-Haken
I
-Led Zeppelin
M
P
P
-Queensryche
R
-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
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Totally stumped as to who the "D" band might be.
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Totally stumped as to who the "D" band might be.
Dead Can Dance
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Was hoping for Dragonforce, but I'm down with that. D.M.C. (Run-) would work too.
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DreamPeace
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5 for 5.
4 for 4.
I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
D
-Genesis
-Haken
I
-Led Zeppelin
M
P
P
-Queensryche
R
-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
I’m stumped on the M band (I have the O band as the replacement) but I honestly can’t think of an M band that we haven’t already covered)
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5 for 5.
4 for 4.
I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
D
-Genesis
-Haken
I
-Led Zeppelin
M
P
P
-Queensryche
R
-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
I’m stumped on the M band (I have the O band as the replacement) but I honestly can’t think of an M band that we haven’t already covered)
There is one really notable band you are overlooking for M.
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Quick catch-up...
Led Zeppelin and The Beatles both NR for me. Both obviously great and massively influential bands. The Beatles is one of those where there are so many songs that have entered some sort of "eternal" all-around consciousness, but I don't find myself reaching out for full albums very often. It's undeniable, though, that their approach to melody and composition has touched many corners of pop and rock music over the decades. Between the two, Led Zeppelin would probably rank a bit higher if I had an extended list, but they were never quite in contention for my top 25. I have the sense reading opinions here on DTF (on this thread and elsewhere) that there is significant appreciation for records like Presence and Physical Graffiti, perhaps for the more sprawling nature of their musical content. Personally, however, I'd take any of the first 5 records (beyond their status as "classic rock" staples, whatever that means) over those two, no doubt. I don't think I necessarily agree that there's no filler in LZ's discography, and I feel that's especially true in the post-Houses of the Holy material (by the way, HOTH is, on certain days, my favorite album of theirs). Regardless, great band.
Queensryche - #5 on my list. That's a case of a band where, for me, the strength of their initial run is so unbelievable that their place in my very, very top is basically cemented. Yes, unfortunately - by now - no matter how decent of a run they are having with LaTorre fronting, that's a band that doesn't exist anymore (and that, before their 2013 s/t reboot, had worked pretty hard to tarnish that body of work). But everything up to (and including, of course :biggrin:) Promised Land is untouchable. If I have to pick a couple favorites, I'd probably go for O:M and Rage for Order.
Genesis - NR. I like the band a lot, but not enough for my top 25. They would rank higher than other 70s prog giants like Yes and King Crimson, though. Other than some of the "pop" singles that I had caught on TV back in the day, my first full album experience was Selling England by the Pound which, quite frankly, blew me away (probably still my favorite Genesis record). I was slowly discovering the "roots" of prog after getting into DT and a variety of prog metal bands in the early-to-mid 90s, and there are things on that album that definitely made me go - ah, so that's where a lot of this prog "stuff" comes from :) There's a lot to love both in the PG and PC-fronted era of the band
25 Nope, especially at this point
24 Opeth (16)
23 Mastodon (23)
22 No Way
21 Thought they had a chance, but probably not at this point
20 Judas Priest (17)
19 I guess not
18 Evergrey (43)
17 Anathema (36)
16 Pain of Salvation (26)
15 I guess not
14 Nope
13 Thought they might have a shot, but no
12 Lock?
11 Nope
10 Marillion (18)
9 Katatonia (39)
8 I thought maaaaaybe, but not at this point
7 Nope
6 Fates Warning (12)
5 Queensryche (8)
4 Lock?
3 Nope
2 Lock
1 Lock
5/19 in the top 25, 10/45 in the top 50, so far.
I expect to hit 4 of the remaining 6...
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5 for 5.
4 for 4.
I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
D
-Genesis
-Haken
I
-Led Zeppelin
M
P
P
-Queensryche
R
-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
I’m stumped on the M band (I have the O band as the replacement) but I honestly can’t think of an M band that we haven’t already covered)
There is one really notable band you are overlooking for M.
I would say :)
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Assuming Soundscape is accurate (and I believe he is), the bands are no brainers and everyone does know who they are ... even if you can't figure it out. You'll :facepalm: once it dawns on you.
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Genesis came in at 2 for me. Listening to Three Sides Live as a kid is one of my core musical memories, and that album remains as one of my favorites. Like Phil Collins, I’m left-handed and a drummer, and that left a huge impression on me. Listening to Phil tear it up on the In the Cage medley from that record was massively influential. When I finally had the ability to play along with that on drums, I felt like I had reached the mountain top! Invisible Touch was also a big point in my musical development when it came out. I used to spin it on my Dad’s turntable regularly. I loved how the LP jacket had a physical relief to it. Sonically, I thought the Simmons drums were the coolest thing ever, and the further incorporation of the drum machines sparked my interest in learning how to use those in the music I dreamed of making back then. That album is still one of my favorites!
As I got older, I dove further into their back catalog and discovered all of their classic material, and I learned to love that with equal aplomb. Part of the challenge was finding the old songs that they referenced in their live medleys. It was cool to hear those parts as they were originally recorded!
I don’t know that I have a favorite studio album of theirs, because I love nearly all of it. I’d have to say Seconds Out and Three Sides Live would be my two favorite releases, because I’ve always felt that Genesis seriously leveled up their material in a live setting. My favorite era is definitely the Collins era, which in my opinion, starts at Nursery Cryme and ends at We Can’t Dance. Phil Collins is still one of my main musical heroes, and Tony Banks isn’t too far behind. I’m super glad that I got to see them live in 2021. Phil may have been in rough shape, but the other musicians were still in top shape, and it was great to watch Nic Collins take on the drum throne. Phil was clearly very proud of him, and to me, it was not only watching Phil pass his torch on to his son, but it represented my Dad passing his torch on to me (my dad passed away in 2019), and then me being ready to pass on the torch to my son when he’s ready.
Lovely post indeed.
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08. Queensryche
My #7 band and used to be top 5. The run from the debut EP to Empire is some of the best material out there!
07. Genesis
I was starting to wonder if they'd make it. My #11 band. For me, it's all about Selling England through Abacab.
1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. Fates Warning (12) (I'll be very sad if they don't make the list. I'm guessing if they aren't one of the next few picks we won't see them.)
4. LOCK
5. Yes (15) (LOCK)
6. Judas Priest (17) (Slightly better than 50/50)
7. Queensryche (8) (Probably (75%+))
8. At this point, I think there's no chance.
9. See #8
10. No way, eh?
11. Genesis (7) (Probably 90%+)
12. LOCK
13. Helloween (38)
14. UFO (42)
15. Led Zeppelin (10) (I think they're probably a lock, but 17 or higher seems surprising to me)
16. The Beatles (9) (LOCK)
17. At this point, I'm going to say no better than a 20% chance - surprisingly underrated around here
18. See #17
19. Black Sabbath (20)
20. Not a chance
21. I'm probably the only one to submit this artist
22. See #17
23. Probably?
24. Scorpions (46T)
25. See #17
Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeath, Riverside, KISS, Ayreon, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Pain of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed & Cambria, Mastodon, Queen, Tool, Transatlantic, Marillion, Opeth, Van Halen (36), Steven Wilson, Haken
Now...let's think...6 artists left, and I have 4 "LOCKs," about which I'm still really confident. There's one other big name that I'm pretty sure will still show up (even though I didn't have them). My #23 I have as a "probably," but I'm not so sure now. The next six days will be interesting to see where everything shakes out (although I think the top 2 are a virtual certainty).
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Assuming Soundscape is accurate (and I believe he is), the bands are no brainers and everyone does know who they are ... even if you can't figure it out. You'll :facepalm: once it dawns on you.
Still can't fathom the second P
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Assuming Soundscape is accurate (and I believe he is), the bands are no brainers and everyone does know who they are ... even if you can't figure it out. You'll :facepalm: once it dawns on you.
Still can't fathom the second P
That's because there's no good reason for them to be this high :neverusethis:
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Assuming Soundscape is accurate (and I believe he is), the bands are no brainers and everyone does know who they are ... even if you can't figure it out. You'll :facepalm: once it dawns on you.
Still can't fathom the second P
That's because there's no good reason for them to be this high :neverusethis:
Primus sucks! ;)
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Assuming Soundscape is accurate (and I believe he is), the bands are no brainers and everyone does know who they are ... even if you can't figure it out. You'll :facepalm: once it dawns on you.
Still can't fathom the second P
That's because there's no good reason for them to be this high :neverusethis:
:iagree:
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Assuming Soundscape is accurate (and I believe he is), the bands are no brainers and everyone does know who they are ... even if you can't figure it out. You'll :facepalm: once it dawns on you.
Still can't fathom the second P
A hint: both P’s are sort of similar.
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Every post this page has raised Kev's blood pressure a couple of points. :lol
Reaper must be a lot more lax about it than I am, that's for sure.
This shit certainly won't fly in the DT top 100 songs countdown thread. :biggrin: :biggrin:
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Assuming Soundscape is accurate (and I believe he is), the bands are no brainers and everyone does know who they are ... even if you can't figure it out. You'll :facepalm: once it dawns on you.
Still can't fathom the second P
Same. I googled a list of bands/artists that start with P. There are several artists that are well-liked around here, but none of them are so highly regarded that I'd expect to see them in the top 6. I'm surprised J-Dude is stumped on the M band.
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Assuming Soundscape is accurate (and I believe he is), the bands are no brainers and everyone does know who they are ... even if you can't figure it out. You'll :facepalm: once it dawns on you.
Still can't fathom the second P
Same. I googled a list of bands/artists that start with P. There are several artists that are well-liked around here, but none of them are so highly regarded that I'd expect to see them in the top 6. I'm surprised J-Dude is stumped on the M band.
I did eventually figure it out. Which just leaves me slack jawed about the O band. While they are nowhere near my top 50, they would be among the first bands to leap to my mind if this were “top 10 bands I hear fan boys drool over on DTF”. Possibly even top 5.
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:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Never mind!!!
I hadn’t seen Opeth had already been done and I missed it.
The world makes more sense now.
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Assuming Soundscape is accurate (and I believe he is), the bands are no brainers and everyone does know who they are ... even if you can't figure it out. You'll :facepalm: once it dawns on you.
Still can't fathom the second P
That's because there's no good reason for them to be this high :neverusethis:
Even as someone who likes this artist, it is getting so high in the rankings that I'm quite surprised they haven't been mentioned, almost making me wonder if I've missed an even larger totally glaring absence.
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Dream Theater has either toured with or played songs by every remaining artist on the countdown.
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Assuming Soundscape is accurate (and I believe he is), the bands are no brainers and everyone does know who they are ... even if you can't figure it out. You'll :facepalm: once it dawns on you.
Still can't fathom the second P
That's because there's no good reason for them to be this high :neverusethis:
Even as someone who likes this artist, it is getting so high in the rankings that I'm quite surprised they haven't been mentioned, almost making me wonder if I've missed a totally glaring absence.
It's definitely a possibility, as they weren't in the predictions I sent you back when #12 was revealed. I never expected them to land this high and maybe they have been totally missed. Then again, I totally missed Queensyche, so what do I know.
There is one band I've been waiting to show up, there's not a chance now, but them not being in a DTF Top 50 is crazy to me.
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Dream Theater has either toured with or played songs by every remaining artist on the countdown.
I knew it! Soundscape was missing a T. We all totally overlooked Tori Amos. Way more popular than the M or R or I bands here for sure.
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Every post this page has raised Kev's blood pressure a couple of points. :lol
Reaper must be a lot more lax about it than I am, that's for sure.
This shit certainly won't fly in the DT top 100 songs countdown thread. :biggrin: :biggrin:
As agent of chaos #1 I just hope Reaper is a fun lovin dude and I promise I will respect dress code and tip the valets in your upcoming thread.
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Dream Theater has either toured with or played songs by every remaining artist on the countdown.
DT toured with Boy George and Culture Club?
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DT plays their own songs??? :o
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Assuming Soundscape is accurate (and I believe he is), the bands are no brainers and everyone does know who they are ... even if you can't figure it out. You'll :facepalm: once it dawns on you.
Still can't fathom the second P
A hint: both P’s are sort of similar.
Some would say one at the very least influenced the other early in their career, although some might acuse the later band ripped off the older band...
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Steven Wilson
NR Devin Townsend
NR Tool
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Queensryche
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Opeth
NR Nightwish
NR Megadeth
NR Mastodon
NR Katatonia
NR Judas Priest
NR Helloween
NR Haken
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Fates Warning
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
30 Transatlantic (The Whirlwind, Bridge Across Forever, The Absolute Universe)
26 Van Halen (Fair Warning, A Different Kind Of Truth, 1984)
25 Sadly, not a shot
24 Sadly, not a shot
23 Given
22 Queen (Queen II; Innuendo; A Kind Of Magic)
21 Given
20 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
19 Probably not; they are a classic, but don't seem to get much love here
18 Sadly, not a shot
17 Sadly, not a shot
16 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
15 Probably not; it's an offshoot of another band here and it won't likely make the grade
14 Sadly, not a shot
13 Sadly, not a shot
12 Neal Morse. (And yes, I lumped.). (Innocence and Danger; The Grand Experiment; TSOAD)
11 Black Sabbath (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sabotage, Heaven and Hell)
10 Sadly, not a shot
9 Given
8 Probably not; his more popular (here) incarnation already appeared
7 Given
6 Marillion (Clutching At Straws, Misplaced Childhood, Brave)
5 Yes (Going For The One, Fragile, Close To The Edge)
4 Led Zeppelin (Physical Graffiti, IV, How The West Was Won)
3. Kiss (Rock And Roll Over; Creatures Of The Night; Hotter Than Hell)
2 Genesis (Wind And Wuthering, Duke, The Lamb...]
1 The Beatles (Abbey Road, Sgt. Pepper, Revolver)
3 for 4 on givens.
Queenryche; a band with the catalogue like the one after Empire to the present shouldn't make this list. O:M and Empire are crucial records, but the catalogue itself doesn't hold up for me.
Genesis. Ah. My number 2. I love ALL of it. From Stagnation to even some parts of "Calling All Stations". They have a top five all time album (Wind and Wuthering) and have my single most favorite recorded piece of music (NOT my favorite SONG, but performance), the medley part of the "In The Cage" medley from the 3SL album (the video is a different, and IMO lesser, version).
I think both HOF and Romdrums had it right. Abacab is their second most progressive record, IMO, behind The Lamb. Sure, they got radio play, and there are a couple latter day songs that don't hold up ("Hold On My Heart", I'm looking at YOU!) but NONE of their albums suck (though I don't care for From Genesis To Revelation that much) and all have something to abide.
My favorite songs:
Albums:
- Trespass: The Knife
- Nursery Cryme: The Musical Box
- Foxtrot: Supper’s Ready
- Selling England: Cinema Show
- The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway: Probably the title track, but "The Colony Of Slippermen" is a hidden gem
- Trick Of The Tail: Ripples
- Wind And Wuthering: One For The Vine (or Unquiet Slumbers for Sleepers in That Silent Earth, but it's all good)
- And Then There Were Three: Deep In The Motherlode
- Duke: Duchess (or Cul-de-sac; another impossible one to choose from)
- Abacab: Me And Sarah Jane
- Genesis: Home By The Sea (both parts, but especially part 2)
- Invisible Touch: Domino
- We Can't Dance: Fading Lights
- Calling All Stations: The Dividing Line (or Not About Us)
B-Sides (just picking a few but there are lots more good ones):
- Evidence of Autumn (one of my favorite songs by the band)
- You Might Recall
- It's Yourself
- Paperlate
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great call on Duchess. that song still blows my mind every time I hear it. it's such a perfect tune. also agreed on the ITC medley being a top notch performance. Any thoughts on the Genesis Live release (the only official live one with PG AFAIK)? The version of the Knife on that recording is one of my all-time favorites
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Deep In The Motherload is another good call. For a long time that was my favorite from ATTWT, but I've come to really like Snowbound over the years.
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You know, I don't think I've ever really listened to much by Genesis. I know my Dad lent me a copy of Foxtrot, years ago, but I don't remember much about it. I know I've listened to Selling England by the Pound as well, but I think that's it (possibly Nursery Cryme).
I'm might check out a few more albums, what's the general consensus on the best ones, or maybe a few that show off different sides to their sound?
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Try Trick of the Tail and Duke for two of the best Collins albums that are also very different. Trick is the first album after Gabriels departure and still features Steve Hackett while Duke is the perfect "hybrid" album between pop and prog Genesis.
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I'll give them a try. I don't mind pop as such, but generally I really don't like that 80s pop sound. I have a feeling the 80s albums are not gonna be my thing at all, but I'll always give new music a shot.
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If you are in for a dense and occassionally absurd double concept album you can give The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway a listen as well. It took me a while to get into but it is now one of my favorites.
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:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Never mind!!!
I hadn’t seen Opeth had already been done and I missed it.
The world makes more sense now.
I was wondering if you had missed the Opeth entry. :lol
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My favorite songs:
Albums:
- Trespass: The Knife
- Nursery Cryme: The Musical Box
- Foxtrot: Supper’s Ready
- Selling England: Cinema Show
- The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway: Probably the title track, but "The Colony Of Slippermen" is a hidden gem
- Trick Of The Tail: Ripples
- Wind And Wuthering: One For The Vine (or Unquiet Slumbers for Sleepers in That Silent Earth, but it's all good)
- And Then There Were Three: Deep In The Motherlode
- Duke: Duchess (or Cul-de-sac; another impossible one to choose from)
- Abacab: Me And Sarah Jane
- Genesis: Home By The Sea (both parts, but especially part 2)
- Invisible Touch: Domino
- We Can't Dance: Fading Lights
- Calling All Stations: The Dividing Line (or Not About Us)
B-Sides (just picking a few but there are lots more good ones):
- Evidence of Autumn (one of my favorite songs by the band)
- You Might Recall
- It's Yourself
- Paperlate
I'll play this game!
My favorite songs:
Albums:
- Trespass: The Knife
- Nursery Cryme: The Fountain of Salmacis (I still don't quite get the "hype" for The Musical Box)
- Foxtrot: Supper’s Ready
- Selling England: Firth of Fifth (but ask me tomorrow and it will be The Cinema Show)
- The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway: In the Cage from Disc 1, The Lamia from Disc 2
- Trick Of The Tail: Mad Man Moon (by a hair over Entangled)
- Wind And Wuthering: One For The Vine (although Blood on the Rooftops may overtake it here soon)
- And Then There Were Three: Burning Rope
- Duke: Heathaze
- Abacab: Abacab
- Genesis: Mama
- Invisible Touch: Land of Confusion (loved it like crazy when I first heard it in '86 and still do)
- We Can't Dance: Fading Lights
- Calling All Stations: N/A :lol
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Driving In the last Spike would be mine from We Can't Dance.
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Driving In the last Spike would be mine from We Can't Dance.
That would be a close second for me. I don't have much use for most of the rest of that record (No Son of Mine is pretty good), and I Can't Dance remains one of the biggest piece of shit hits by any great band ever, but Fading Lights and Driving the Last Spike is a great 1-2 punch.
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:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Never mind!!!
I hadn’t seen Opeth had already been done and I missed it.
The world makes more sense now.
I was wondering if you had missed the Opeth entry. :lol
There is also another O band that I had thought would surely make the top 25, so the almost certainly inevitable outcome of not even making the top 50 is quite surprising given the demographic here.
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One of my personal favorites makes number 6
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For the longest time Pink Floyd was my number 1 band. Funny enough I'm down in Florida visiting my family and my mom gave me a bunch of 50 disc spindles of burned cd's I had from when I was a middle/high schooler, over half were Pink Floyd mix cd's. Currently they sit at number 5 for me, which is largely do to overplaying on my part. PF is one of the rare bands with a big discography and one I enjoy completely. Glad to see them here.
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Love DSotM, enjoy some of their other material, but just haven't spent nearly enough time with it for them to truly be a favorite. You can probably trace the origin of a lot of the atmospheric qualities I like in studio music back to their work. They're just vocally a bit bland for my tastes, which would probably limit their ceiling.
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#3 for me, tbh expected them to be top three here as well!
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If anything, I'm surprised they're this low. I would've said Top 3 for sure with R and D.
25. Judas Priest
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22. Fates Warning
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20. Opeth
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18. Evergrey
17. Katatonia
16. Riverside
15. Helloween
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11. Pain of Salvation
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9. Steven Wilson
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7. Nightwish
6. Haken
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2. Pink Floyd
1. Ayreon
I lumped them with David Gilmour solo material which made this a no-brainer. Without it, I would've likely had them in Top 5, but not quite this high. Unfortunately did not see any of them live, Pink Floyd or solo. The closest I've got is 1) purchasing tickets for Ayreon's The Theater Equation a year in advance and finding out Gilmour planned his Rattle That Lock tour at the same dates but in another European country, and we couldn't attend unfortunately, and 2) seeing Brit Floyd in 2017, which was cool, but obviously not the real thing. I had a chance to see Roger Waters performing The Wall and in retrospect I probably should've done that just to see it performed, but at the time I was (and probably still is) in the "I don't want to give Roger Waters more money" camp.
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DT is fundamentally a metal band more than anything else, especially in the past couple decades, so it's fascinating how many rock bands are placing as high as they are.
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I was too young to see PF live in any incarnation (except the Live 8 thing which wasn't really gonna happen) but last month I saw Brit Floyd and I have to say it's a killer show. Not only do they sound exactly like PF, they light show is near identical to the PULSE tour in spots, albeit a bit toned down. I had my reservations about seeing them but now I'm completely sold.
I have a bunch of PF boots, and Brit Floyd did better playing PF than PF.
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Pink Floyd would have finished 6th on my list, so I would have nailed its spot (unless my ranking would have moved it up). They were top 3 for me for a long time, but have been surpassed by a few "newer" bands since, and it doesn't help that I find a decent amount of their material to be forgettable. That said, The Wall and Dark Side of the Moon are possibly my two favorite albums ever, and I have mad love for The Division Bell, Animals and Wish You Were Here as well.
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Not the P I was expecting this morning. I had them a little low, if only for the fact that everything pre-Meddle is unlistenable for me. Meddle is salvaged by One of These Days, and then everything after that is Gold - The Final Cut notwithstanding; it's ok, but definitely the worst of the bunch. Took me a long time to really appreciate Animals; The Wall is Top 10 all-time for me - I listened the fuck out of that in my teens. Welcome to the Machine is a Top 10 song of all time for me. Now that I think about it, I probably rated them a little too low at 14.
25. Queen (23)
24. Van Halen (13)
23. Nada
22. Nope
21. Uh-uh
20. Queensryche (8) <99% certain>
19. Nah
18. No
17. Guaranteed
16. I could be the only one that voted for them
15. I'm definitely the only one that voted for them
14. Pink Floyd (6) <Fo Sho>
13. Evergrey (43)
12. I'm not sure why I even voted for them!
11. Nightwish (40)
10. Me and King only
9. Nope
8. Symphony-X (50)
7. Highly unlikely, and I'm stunned they didn't make the Top 50.
6. Spock's Beard (28)
5. Criminally, no
4. Ayreon (29)
3. Without a doubt
2. Bet my annual salary
1. Led Zeppelin (10) <99% certain>
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Pink Floyd is timeless; they didn't make my list but i still remember the first time I heard Dark Side of the Moon.
Meddle is my favorite Floyd record, followed closely by Animals. my PF Hot Take is i really don't care for The Wall at all. The film is 100x better IMO
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I had Pink Floyd at #15. That stretch of albums from Meddle to The Wall is fantastic. DSOTM may be overplayed or whatever, but it's still a Top 10 album for me (and Animals is not far behind).
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Pink Floyd was NR for me.
They are perhaps the "biggest" classic band I have trouble connecting to. They are clearly beloved - not just here on DTF but around the world. Over the years, I bought most of their studio albums and did deep dives, more than once. There's obviously plenty of great stuff but, overall, something about them rubs me the wrong way, I don't know. Often I feel I enjoy the influence PF's music has had on many of the bands I like more than PF itself. As an overall album experience, I'd probably say Animals is my favorite. High Hopes is likely my favorite song of theirs.
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Up to 10
Pink Floyd
I have them at number 5.
Such a fantastic output. Both with and without Roger Waters.
I managed to see them live twice on the Momentary Lapse of Reason tour. In 1988 in Oslo and in 1989 in Stockholm. Amazing concerts both of them.
Love Piper at the Gates of Dawn through to Division Bell.
Favorites are Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here. But I love all their output.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Haken, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Queensrÿche, Genesis
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21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
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19 Steven Wilson (favorite album: The Raven That Refused To Sing, favorite song: The Raven That Refused To Sing)
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
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15 Yes (Favorite album: Close to the Edge, favorite song:Roundabout)
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
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6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
5 Pink Floyd (favorite album: Dark Side of the Moon, favorite song: Wish You Were Here)
4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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6 for 6.
5 for 5.
4 for 4.
I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
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-Genesis
-Haken
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-Led Zeppelin
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-Pink Floyd
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-Queensryche
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-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
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6 for 6.
5 for 5.
4 for 4.
I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
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-Genesis
-Haken
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-Pink Floyd
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-Queensryche
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-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
We had the same final 10 guessed.
I definitely would've had Floyd in my top 10,maybe 5.
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Great band indeed. I probably need to revisit some of their first records tho.
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Hot take… as much as I love Dark Side and beyond, it was Piper along with the Syd singles that elevated them to #4 on my list. Without that, they probably would’ve been just outside the top 10.
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One of my personal favorites makes number 6
06. Pink Floyd
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For the longest time Pink Floyd was my number 1 band. Funny enough I'm down in Florida visiting my family and my mom gave me a bunch of 50 disc spindles of burned cd's I had from when I was a middle/high schooler, over half were Pink Floyd mix cd's. Currently they sit at number 5 for me, which is largely do to overplaying on my part. PF is one of the rare bands with a big discography and one I enjoy completely. Glad to see them here.
NR: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Agalloch, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Helloween, Between The Buried And Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Peter Gabriel, Megadeth, Pain Of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed And Cambria, Mastodon, Tool, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Opeth, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Led Zeppelin, Queensryche
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
27 The Beatles
26 Queen
25 (Leave this band behind)
24 (Interesting but not looking quite good)
23 (Most unlikely)
22 Pink Floyd
21 (Not likely)
20 Riverside
19 (Most likely not)
18 (Unlikely)
17 (Unfortunately not lucky enough)
16 (Pretty sure they won't make it)
15 (Only if hell freezes over)
14 Steven Wilson
13 Yes
12 Genesis
11 (This outfit won't make it)
10 Ayreon
09 Haken
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07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
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03 Transatlantic
02 (Totally nother making it)
01 Big Big Train
Went to bed last night spinning WYWH, my favorite PF album, in the hopes that the band will pop up today and look! I think I've already Floyded myself out this season after the countdown we had, but I'll never get tired of WYWH (the album).
I've filled in some of my list's blanks where I think those bands aren't going to be in the top five. The three blanks seem very likely though, and you could all guess who they are.
-Marc.
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I would have had Pink Floyd at #8. Not the most consistent discography overall, but the stuff that is great is just spectacular.
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Not in my top 25 or really considered for it.
I prefer the Gilmour era of PF, love The Division Bell, and enjoy certain Gilmour dominated tracks from earlier on like Comfortably numb. Dark Side of the Moon is also a very cool album. I don’t care for Roger Waters and get bored with a lot of their stuff.
There’s a good bit of irony here because Floyd are clearly one of the biggest influences on my favorite band, Marillion, as well as a bunch of other bands I like. Kind of like The Beatles I guess where I like the music born from their influence better than their own music.
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Top 5 for me. The second most progressive act ever and the prettiest sounding of all.
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I didn't rank Pink Floyd, but I'm glad they're here. Their run from DSOTM to Animals is wonderful, and there's some gems on their other albums like Echoes. I didn't rank them because there's too much of their discography I'm just not that familiar with.
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Wow, this Top 10 had basically told me to fuck off.
I expect the Top 5 to be nicer.
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I'll give them a try. I don't mind pop as such, but generally I really don't like that 80s pop sound. I have a feeling the 80s albums are not gonna be my thing at all, but I'll always give new music a shot.
If you listen to Selling England..., Wind And Withering, Duke and Invisible Touch and don't like it, then you probably aren't going to be a fan.
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Steven Wilson
NR Devin Townsend
NR Tool
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Queensryche
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Opeth
NR Nightwish
NR Megadeth
NR Mastodon
NR Katatonia
NR Judas Priest
NR Helloween
NR Haken
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Fates Warning
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
30 Transatlantic (The Whirlwind, Bridge Across Forever, The Absolute Universe)
26 Van Halen (Fair Warning, A Different Kind Of Truth, 1984)
25 Sadly, not a shot
24 Sadly, not a shot
23 Pink Floyd
22 Queen (Queen II; Innuendo; A Kind Of Magic)
21 Given
20 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
19 Probably not; they are a classic, but don't seem to get much love here
18 Sadly, not a shot
17 Sadly, not a shot
16 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
15 Probably not; it's an offshoot of another band here and it won't likely make the grade
14 Sadly, not a shot
13 Sadly, not a shot
12 Neal Morse. (And yes, I lumped.). (Innocence and Danger; The Grand Experiment; TSOAD)
11 Black Sabbath (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sabotage, Heaven and Hell)
10 Sadly, not a shot
9 Given
8 Probably not; his more popular (here) incarnation already appeared
7 Given
6 Marillion (Clutching At Straws, Misplaced Childhood, Brave)
5 Yes (Going For The One, Fragile, Close To The Edge)
4 Led Zeppelin (Physical Graffiti, IV, How The West Was Won)
3. Kiss (Rock And Roll Over; Creatures Of The Night; Hotter Than Hell)
2 Genesis (Wind And Wuthering, Duke, The Lamb...]
1 The Beatles (Abbey Road, Sgt. Pepper, Revolver)
4 for 5 on givens.
Love Floyd; they could have been higher, but there are bands I go to more frequently. But there's no mistaking their legendary quality.
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There’s a good bit of irony here because Floyd are clearly one of the biggest influences on my favorite band, Marillion, as well as a bunch of other bands I like. Kind of like The Beatles I guess where I like the music born from their influence better than their own music.
Yep, as I wrote above, that's basically how I feel too...
Interesting observation about Pink Floyd and Marillion, though...I wouldn't necessarily think of PF as the biggest influence there, but maybe it's more so with the recent material...?
Wow, this Top 10 had basically told me to fuck off.
I expect the Top 5 to be nicer.
:lol
Not great for me either, so far. I have 1 in the aggregate top 10 and two in the top 15 so far. I do expect to hit 4 out of the top 5, though (unless I'm wildly wrong about what's to come)
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There’s a good bit of irony here because Floyd are clearly one of the biggest influences on my favorite band, Marillion, as well as a bunch of other bands I like. Kind of like The Beatles I guess where I like the music born from their influence better than their own music.
Yep, as I wrote above, that's basically how I feel too...
Interesting observation about Pink Floyd and Marillion, though...I wouldn't necessarily think of PF as the biggest influence there, but maybe it's more so with the recent material...?
So the knock on Marillion has always been the "Genesis" influence. And other than a very early cover, the end of Grendel, and He Knows You Know, I just never really saw it. BUT... the Floyd influence is strong. Fish, I think, took a very similar lyrical path to Roger Waters, for one. Rothery's solos are very much in keeping with Gilmour's (though Rothery isn't as blues based). There is a copy of "The Wall" on the Fugazi record. The story line of both Misplaced Childhood and Clutching mirror, thematically, the approach of Waters to write about his life and his upbringing. Genesis was always about the COMPOSITION; they are songwriters first, players second. Floyd was always about the mood and the atmosphere. So Marillion.
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There’s a good bit of irony here because Floyd are clearly one of the biggest influences on my favorite band, Marillion, as well as a bunch of other bands I like. Kind of like The Beatles I guess where I like the music born from their influence better than their own music.
Yep, as I wrote above, that's basically how I feel too...
Interesting observation about Pink Floyd and Marillion, though...I wouldn't necessarily think of PF as the biggest influence there, but maybe it's more so with the recent material...?
So the knock on Marillion has always been the "Genesis" influence. And other than a very early cover, the end of Grendel, and He Knows You Know, I just never really saw it. BUT... the Floyd influence is strong. Fish, I think, took a very similar lyrical path to Roger Waters, for one. Rothery's solos are very much in keeping with Gilmour's (though Rothery isn't as blues based). There is a copy of "The Wall" on the Fugazi record. The story line of both Misplaced Childhood and Clutching mirror, thematically, the approach of Waters to write about his life and his upbringing. Genesis was always about the COMPOSITION; they are songwriters first, players second. Floyd was always about the mood and the atmosphere. So Marillion.
Yep, makes sense. I do agree especially that Marillion always put plenty of emphasis on mood. And the solos too, always with an eye (ear?) to melody.
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Yeah, I think with Marillion it's more that they share a similar ethos and aesthetic with Pink Floyd, with the moody, spacey, slower paced atmospheric songs being a bit of a trademark. Steve Hogarth has a quote where he describes Marillion as “If Pink Floyd and Radiohead had a love child that was in touch with their feminine side they would be us." Marillion aren't from the Yes, ELP, or Rush vein of prog. They are much more like Pink Floyd (with some Genesis influence as well) than the flashier more technical bands in prog.
Stadler is right though that Gilmour is a definite major influence on Rothery's solos, and you can probably hear direct references as much in the Fish days as later on (The Sugar Mice solo is very similar to Mother from The Wall). But a more recent example is "The Gold" off of FEAR. That has Floyd all over it.
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Pretty sure I will get 2 of the remaining 5.
My numbers 8 and 12.
The rest have no chance to show up now.
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I can't believe the other P will be higher than today's P! Didn't see that one coming.
1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. The Beatles
4. Probably not
5. Nope
6. LOCK
7. LOCK
8. Led Zeppelin
9. Van Halen
10. Nope
11. Mastodon
12. Spock's Beard
13. Nope
14. Nope
15. Between the Buried and Me
16. Nope
17. Avenged Sevenfold
18. Opeth
19. Nope
20. Tool
21. Coheed & Cambria
22. Pink Floyd
23. Absolutely nope
24. Nope
25. Megadeth
31. Kiss
34. Queen
38. Transatlantic
47. Genesis
79. Black Sabbath
85. Yes
92. Fates Warning
LOCK prediction count: 5/9 - Oh yeah
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Here's how my list is shaping up:
Not rated: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Agalloch, King Crimson, Avenged Sevenfold, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Helloween, Between The Buried And Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeth, Kiss, Ayreon, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Pain Of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed & Cambria, Mastodon, Tool, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Preist, Opeth, Yes, Steven Wilson, Haken, The Beatles, Genesis, Pink Floyd
25. never had a chance
24. never had a chance
23. had an outside chance of making it
22. Van Halen (13)
21. Scorpions (46)
20. Queen (21)
19. never had a chance
18. had an outside chance of making it
17. never really had a chance
16. Led Zeppelin (10)
15. never really had a chance
14. Transatlantic (19)
13. never had a chance
12. never really had a chance
11. absolute given
10. never really had a chance
9. had an outside chance of making it
8. had an outside chance of making it
7. Fates Warning (12)
6. absolute given
5. absolute given
4. Queensryche (8)
3. Riverside (31)
2. absolute given
1. absolute given
The last 5 are all absolute locks for my list. Only question is what order they'll appear.
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My list with the predictions:
25. Judas Priest
24. Coming soon
23. How the hell this classic prog rock band didn't even make Top 50 is beyond me
22. Fates Warning
21. Coming soon
20. Opeth
19. Shouldn't be so surprised they didn't make it as even Deep Purple didn't make it
18. Evergrey
17. Katatonia
16. Riverside
15. Helloween
14. I was sure they would make at least Top 50, also a classic band
13. Never really stood a chance but I enjoyed their power metal phase and then prog/power metal phase
12. No chance for Top 25 but I thought they might crack Top 50, a well-known band on DTF
11. Pain of Salvation
10. No chance at all but everything they did so far is fantastic
9. Steven Wilson
8. Thought they were a given for a Top 50. Apparently no love for power metal here.
7. Nightwish
6. Haken
5. Coming soon
4. Thought they were a given for a Top 50. Apparently no love for power metal here.
3. Thought they were a given for a Top 50. Apparently no love for power metal here.
2. Pink Floyd
1. Ayreon
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Yeah, I think with Marillion it's more that they share a similar ethos and aesthetic with Pink Floyd, with the moody, spacey, slower paced atmospheric songs being a bit of a trademark. Steve Hogarth has a quote where he describes Marillion as “If Pink Floyd and Radiohead had a love child that was in touch with their feminine side they would be us." Marillion aren't from the Yes, ELP, or Rush vein of prog. They are much more like Pink Floyd (with some Genesis influence as well) than the flashier more technical bands in prog.
Stadler is right though that Gilmour is a definite major influence on Rothery's solos, and you can probably hear direct references as much in the Fish days as later on (The Sugar Mice solo is very similar to Mother from The Wall). But a more recent example is "The Gold" off of FEAR. That has Floyd all over it.
I forgot that; didn't Petrooch quote that (Mother) at the end of Surrounded on Chaos In Motion, then James started singing Sugar Mice?
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My top 3 are all likely still to come, and then two that wouldn't have made my top 25, but one of which I am quite a big fan now and another I like, but don't love.
There is a major classic hard rock band that I will be stunned to see miss the top 50 altogether. They wouldn't have made my list, but I thought for sure they'd have enough fans to at least finish top 50. That will be a major wow for me.
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There is a major classic hard rock band that I will be stunned to see miss the top 50 altogether. They wouldn't have made my list, but I thought for sure they'd have enough fans to at least finish top 50. That will be a major wow for me.
You mean the one Evermind referred to in his post just two posts above you? If yes, I too am very surprised although they didn't make my list either.
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There is a major classic hard rock band that I will be stunned to see miss the top 50 altogether. They wouldn't have made my list, but I thought for sure they'd have enough fans to at least finish top 50. That will be a major wow for me.
You mean the one Evermind referred to in his post just two posts above you? If yes, I too am very surprised although they didn't make my list either.
It could be the unmentioned one (not sure who he is talking about), but it wasn't DP to whom I was referencing.
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Pink Floyd is great and very deserving. I don't think they would have made my top 25 though.
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There is a major classic hard rock band that I will be stunned to see miss the top 50 altogether. They wouldn't have made my list, but I thought for sure they'd have enough fans to at least finish top 50. That will be a major wow for me.
You mean the one Evermind referred to in his post just two posts above you? If yes, I too am very surprised although they didn't make my list either.
It could be the unmentioned one (not sure who he is talking about), but it wasn't DP to whom I was referencing.
Ah OK. I thought it was DP you were referring to. There's one classic rock band on my list that I'd put at the same level as UFO in terms of popularity here that I thought would crack the top 50 but didn't. I wonder if it's the same one you're thinking of.
Now that I look at the list, I'm surprised that 2 of the "big four" thrash bands didn't make the top 50 cut either, though I didn't vote for them either.
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Now that I look at the list, I'm surprised that 2 of the "big four" thrash bands didn't make the top 50 cut either, though I didn't vote for them either.
There was zero chance one of them was going to make it.
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22 Symphony X
21 Transatlantic
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19 Megadeth
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13 YES
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9 Marillion
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4 Pink Floyd
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Yeah, I think with Marillion it's more that they share a similar ethos and aesthetic with Pink Floyd, with the moody, spacey, slower paced atmospheric songs being a bit of a trademark. Steve Hogarth has a quote where he describes Marillion as “If Pink Floyd and Radiohead had a love child that was in touch with their feminine side they would be us." Marillion aren't from the Yes, ELP, or Rush vein of prog. They are much more like Pink Floyd (with some Genesis influence as well) than the flashier more technical bands in prog.
Stadler is right though that Gilmour is a definite major influence on Rothery's solos, and you can probably hear direct references as much in the Fish days as later on (The Sugar Mice solo is very similar to Mother from The Wall). But a more recent example is "The Gold" off of FEAR. That has Floyd all over it.
I forgot that; didn't Pretrooch quote that (Mother) at the end of Surrounded on Chaos In Motion, then James started singing Sugar Mice?
Yeah!! one of the best moments from that tour lol
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From Pink Floyd to a band that sounds like Pink Floyd (I kid I kid!!!) here is number 5
05. Porcupine Tree
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Landed number 10 on my list. There were a few years where PT was my number 1 band but since have fallen down the list. Personally I think it's just another consistency issue. PT is probably the only band on my list that has songs I hate and find incredibly grating but their highs can be so high.
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Porcupine Tree would have been number 2 on my list (given that they are my 2nd favorite band). Their 7-album run of The Sky Moves Sideways through Fear of a Blank Planet is nearly untoppable (when looking at studio album runs and not factoring in EPs or anything else). Just an incredible band. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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From Pink Floyd to a band that sounds like Pink Floyd (I kid I kid!!!) here is number 5
05. Porcupine Tree
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Number of top 10 finishes: 17
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Landed number 10 on my list. There were a few years where PT was my number 1 band but since have fallen down the list. Personally I think it's just another consistency issue. PT is probably the only band on my list that has songs I hate and find incredibly grating but their highs can be so high.
NR: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Agalloch, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Helloween, Between The Buried And Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Peter Gabriel, Megadeth, Pain Of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed And Cambria, Mastodon, Tool, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Opeth, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Led Zeppelin, Queensryche
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
27 The Beatles
26 Queen
25 (Leave this band behind)
24 (Interesting but not looking quite good)
23 (Most unlikely)
22 Pink Floyd
21 (Not likely)
20 Riverside
19 (Most likely not)
18 (Unlikely)
17 (Unfortunately not lucky enough)
16 (Pretty sure they won't make it)
15 (Only if hell freezes over)
14 Steven Wilson
13 Yes
12 Genesis
11 (This outfit won't make it)
10 Ayreon
09 Haken
08 Porcupine Tree
07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
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03 Transatlantic
02 (Totally nother making it)
01 Big Big Train
I had a feeling they'd pop up today, so I went to bed listening to In Absentia last night. I am not surprised it made top five, especially given that nearly every list PT appeared on made it to the top ten. I've over this band since the Deadwing era, right around when I discovered them. My hype for FOABP was through the roof, and I even caught them on that tour (and I don't go to too many concerts). Ever since then, they've been a solid Top 10 band for me, and while C/C wasn't the FULL band as we knew them, I still really enjoyed the reunion. If they don't make anymore new music, I'll be happy with the immense body of work they've left behind, especially albums like The Sky Moves Sideways, the duo of SD & LS, and the trio-run of IA/DW/FOABP. In fact, the only albums I rarely listen to are their first and tenth.
-Marc.
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Great choice. They would have made my top thirty most likely. :tup
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Hey that’s a good band
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A band that could never really click with me (Blackest Eyes is cool though).
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Ugh.
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Fantastic band #4 for me, favourite albums are Lightbulb Sun and Fear of a Blank Planet. These last two entries have helped fill in some of my top 5.
5.
4. Porcupine Tree
3. Pink Floyd
2.
1. Radiohead
I'm 100% the other two aren't going to show up.
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I enjoy me some PT from time to time, but they didn't quite make my Top 25.
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Ugh.
I hear ya Tim.
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Wow
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25
24
23 Miles Davis
22 Black Sabbath
21 Godspeed You! Black Emperor
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19 Porcupine Tree
18
17 King Crimson
16
15 Agalloch
14
13 Genesis
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10
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6 Peter Gabriel
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2
1 Frank Zappa
PT is a timeless band for me. 15 years ago they would have been near the top of my list but even today they are still special
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I think we can be 99.999999% certain of who the top 4 are now.
I quite like the 00s PT albums, but while I've heard the earlier ones, I'm much less familiar with them. Their sound really started to appeal to me on In Absentia with Gavin joining and Wilson's quite noticeable Opeth and Tool influences really starting to show up. Like a number of other artists here, I find Steven's vocals quite insipid, which holds them back some. I need to explore their earlier material more deeply for certain though, Buddy pointing me to Guilt Machine in my roulette, who I'd been sleeping on, has made me realize that Maitland is a quite fine drummer in his own right.
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Ugh.
I hear ya Tim.
I feel ya, Luke
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A number of people have found it odd that I don't like Porcupine Tree much but love Riverside. I don't think it's that odd and I've never thought they sounded much alike. Influence, sure, absolutely. But their actual songs sound quite different to me.
I thought In Absentia was pretty good but nothing else has done much for me.
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I had Steven Wilson solo higher than PT :lol
25. Judas Priest
24.
23.
22. Fates Warning
21. Porcupine Tree
20. Opeth
19.
18. Evergrey
17. Katatonia
16. Riverside
15. Helloween
14.
13.
12.
11. Pain of Salvation
10.
9. Steven Wilson
8.
7. Nightwish
6. Haken
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4.
3.
2. Pink Floyd
1. Ayreon
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Still at 10
Porcupine Tree
I heard about this band back in the day but did not connect with anything I listened to.
Got into Steven Wilson a couple of years ago and through him I got into some of their albums.
Still hold SW higher and did not have PT in my top 25.
Love Closure / Continuation and saw them on that tour.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Haken, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Queensrÿche, Genesis, Porcupine Tree
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21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
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19 Steven Wilson (favorite album: The Raven That Refused To Sing, favorite song: The Raven That Refused To Sing)
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
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15 Yes (Favorite album: Close to the Edge, favorite song:Roundabout)
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
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10
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7
6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
5 Pink Floyd (favorite album: Dark Side of the Moon, favorite song: Wish You Were Here)
4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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24: Steven Wilson
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22: Tool
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16: Riverside
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13: Anathema
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9: Between The Buried And Me
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5: Opeth
4: Agalloch
3: Porcupine Tree
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1: Devin Townsend
Top five is honestly pretty unexpected for how many loud detractors Steven Wilson has on here. But I guess it's the vocal minority. :neverusethis:
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I had Porcupine Tree at #6, and even as a huge fan of the band, I think it's both shocking and hilarious that they finished one spot ahead of Pink Floyd! I never got into Pink Floyd and they didn't make my list. I know early/mid era PT is somewhat derivative of Pink Floyd (though the most direct ripoff may have been "Time Flies") and yet between the two, PT is the band I've always been drawn to.
I got into PT shortly after the release of Lightbulb Sun, though my first two albums were Up the Downstair and Stupid Dream. I grew to love the middle era the best, and Signify remains my favorite PT album by a comfortable margin -- with "Dark Matter" (or is it "Darkmatter"?) as my favorite song.
First show was on the first leg of the IA tour in Detroit, in a tiny place that couldn't have had more than 200 people show up. Last show was on the C/C tour in Milwaukee, which even as one of the smaller shows on that tour still had several thousand in attendance.
Oh, and the PT song countdown was the first thing I really participated in here at DTF, and it was a lot of fun!
Favorite underappreciated PT tracks: This Long Silence, Idiot Prayer, Disappear (April 1997 Demo), Chloroform, What Happens Now?
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Very confident that my final three locks are going to make the top 4, and that my last "probably in" actually has no chance.
25. (no chance)
24. (no chance)
23. (LOCK)
22. (no chance)
21. (not likely)
20. (no chance)
19. Peter Gabriel
18. (no chance)
17. (no chance)
16. (no chance)
15. (not likely)
14. (probably in) (nope, this one's gonna be wrong)
13. Yes
12. (no chance)
11. Genesis
10. (not likely)
9. (not likely)
8. (not likely)
7. Haken
6. Porcupine Tree
5. (LOCK)
4. Spock's Beard
3. Transatlantic
2. (LOCK)
1. (not likely)
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I am not sure why it is a big deal that early PT sounded a lot like Pink Floyd in spots. The band whose forum this supports sounds like any number of bands depending on which album you listen to, so total and complete originality when it comes to sound and style is not exactly the highest bar to clear around here when it comes to being a fan of a band. :biggrin: :biggrin:
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The non Metal side of DTF seems to have won this countdown.
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The non Metal side of DTF seems to have won this countdown.
I don't see it that way. The likely top four bands will be ones that are metal or were called metal at some point in their careers.
Meanwhile, two of the biggest/most popular rock bands ever are likely not even making the top 50.
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I count 34 bands on the countdown who at least at some point in their careers were either metal or verging on it.
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The non Metal side of DTF seems to have won this countdown.
I don't see it that way.
Well, it's my truth! ;D
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The non Metal side of DTF seems to have won this countdown.
I don't see it that way.
Well, it's my truth! ;D
Exactly. :lol :lol
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Now that I look at the list, I'm surprised that 2 of the "big four" thrash bands didn't make the top 50 cut either, though I didn't vote for them either.
There was zero chance one of them was going to make it.
At this stage, that's a given, but when you look at some of the bands/artists that *did* get in the top 50 (Miles Davis, Evergrey, Agalloch, Katatonia), would it really be that much of a stretch to believe both of those bands could've made it?
Meanwhile, two of the biggest/most popular rock bands ever are likely not even making the top 50.
Manowar and Limp Bizkit?
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The non Metal side of DTF seems to have won this countdown.
You want me to kiss your boo boo?
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Painful incredible snubs:
Deep Purple, Alice Cooper, Supertramp, Thin Lizzy, Steely Dan ... among others.
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Painful incredible snubs:
Steely Dan
I tried! Had them at #10, just a peg below my top-tier prog favorites.
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Painful incredible snubs:
Deep Purple, Alice Cooper, Supertramp, Thin Lizzy, Steely Dan ... among others.
I wasn't expecting Supertramp or Steely Dan to make the list, but I would have thought the other 3 would at least be in the top 50 if not higher. I have a longer list of snubs I'll post later if they haven't already wound up being mentioned. Kev is probably having a conniption right now. :lol
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*double post (crummy internet...) :facepalm:
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Painful incredible snubs:
Deep Purple, Alice Cooper, Supertramp, Thin Lizzy, Steely Dan ... among others.
I wasn't expecting Supertramp or Steely Dan to make the list, but I would have thought the other 3 would at least be in the top 50 if not higher. I have a longer list of snubs I'll post later if they haven't already wound up being mentioned. Kev is probably having a conniption right now. :lol
Not at all. It's not my thread. :lol :lol
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Meanwhile, two of the biggest/most popular rock bands ever are likely not even making the top 50.
Just realized what one of them is that you're referring to that has a residency in Vegas and who's drummer is sitting it out. Amiright? ;)
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I am not sure why it is a big deal that early PT sounded a lot like Pink Floyd in spots. The band whose forum this supports sounds like any number of bands depending on which album you listen to, so total and complete originality when it comes to sound and style is not exactly the highest bar to clear around here when it comes to being a fan of a band. :biggrin: :biggrin:
he ain't wrong
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Now that I look at the list, I'm surprised that 2 of the "big four" thrash bands didn't make the top 50 cut either, though I didn't vote for them either.
There was zero chance one of them was going to make it.
At this stage, that's a given, but when you look at some of the bands/artists that *did* get in the top 50 (Miles Davis, Evergrey, Agalloch, Katatonia), would it really be that much of a stretch to believe both of those bands could've made it?
I knew Anthrax wasn't making it. I'm not surprised that Slayer didn't either, honestly, especially with the way this countdown has gone.
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Steely Dan made my list, lol
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Meanwhile, two of the biggest/most popular rock bands ever are likely not even making the top 50.
Just realized what one of them is that you're referring to that has a residency in Vegas and who's drummer is sitting it out. Amiright? ;)
Nope, although that is a glaring omission as well.
One has a drummer who died a little over two years and the other's legendary drummer died before MTV was a thing.
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Now that I look at the list, I'm surprised that 2 of the "big four" thrash bands didn't make the top 50 cut either, though I didn't vote for them either.
There was zero chance one of them was going to make it.
At this stage, that's a given, but when you look at some of the bands/artists that *did* get in the top 50 (Miles Davis, Evergrey, Agalloch, Katatonia), would it really be that much of a stretch to believe both of those bands could've made it?
I knew Anthrax wasn't making it. I'm not surprised that Slayer didn't either, honestly, especially with the way this countdown has gone.
No surprises Slayer made my list, shame on the rest of you.
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:lol
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Meanwhile, two of the biggest/most popular rock bands ever are likely not even making the top 50.
Just realized what one of them is that you're referring to that has a residency in Vegas and who's drummer is sitting it out. Amiright? ;)
Nope, although that is a glaring omission as well.
One has a drummer who died a little over two years and the other's legendary drummer died before MTV was a thing.
I know what bands you're talking about.
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Meanwhile, two of the biggest/most popular rock bands ever are likely not even making the top 50.
Just realized what one of them is that you're referring to that has a residency in Vegas and who's drummer is sitting it out. Amiright? ;)
Nope, although that is a glaring omission as well.
One has a drummer who died a little over two years and the other's legendary drummer died before MTV was a thing.
I know what bands you're talking about.
With those hints, I do too. Dunno if I agree with the former, but the latter is surprising, although neither made my list.
Actually I'm surprised that a certain British 3-piece (not the super group from the 60s) didn't make the top 50 either considering their general popularity and how I thought they were perceived here. They are one of the bands on my list.
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I know who those three are as well, but generally speaking the most popular bands making it here either have proggier/artsier sides (Beatles), or are a bit flashier (Van Halen) or theatrical (KISS). There are several rock bands who've sold hundreds of millions who aren't going to be appearing as well.
Now that I look at the list, I'm surprised that 2 of the "big four" thrash bands didn't make the top 50 cut either, though I didn't vote for them either.
There was zero chance one of them was going to make it.
At this stage, that's a given, but when you look at some of the bands/artists that *did* get in the top 50 (Miles Davis, Evergrey, Agalloch, Katatonia), would it really be that much of a stretch to believe both of those bands could've made it?
I'm really curious to see the vote totals. Depending upon who submitted a ballot, a single person can potentially swing a placement significantly. I'm sure if one of Lethean and myself hadn't taken part, Katatonia would not be in the top 50, for example. If RJ had been involved, I imagine IQ would be in the top 50.
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100%, it looks as though Miles Davis made the list almost entirely due to his #1 placement in one list.
I want to see the full ranking, bit also what the ranking would've looked like if each artist was just assigned one point, not a score depending on how high they ranked.
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also what the ranking would've looked like if each artist was just assigned one point, not a score depending on how high they ranked.
Interesting. Yeah.
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100%, it looks as though Miles Davis made the list almost entirely due to his #1 placement in one list.
I want to see the full ranking, bit also what the ranking would've looked like if each artist was just assigned one point, not a score depending on how high they ranked.
Yeah, I made that point earlier on. The heavier rankings make placement a huge deal. 24 people voting a band as one of their 25 favorites of all time at #25 can be overridden by one single person voting a different band #1.
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Apparently the 2 Genesis fans and the 2 Porcupine Tree fans have made their presence known.
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lol
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Apparently the 2 Genesis fans and the 2 Porcupine Tree fans have made their presence known.
Porcupine Tree had 17 top 10 finishes apparently!
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Tim sounds like the spoiled brat not getting his way with TV stations eith his family.
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7 for 7.
6 for 6.
5 for 5.
4 for 4.
I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
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-Genesis
-Haken
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-Led Zeppelin
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-Pink Floyd
-Porcupine Tree
-Queensryche
R
-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
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Apparently the 2 Genesis fans and the 2 Porcupine Tree fans have made their presence known.
Porcupine Tree had 17 top 10 finishes apparently!
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:lol
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Apparently the 2 Genesis fans and the 2 Porcupine Tree fans have made their presence known.
You know who are fans of Genesis and Porcupine Tree?
Dream Theater. :neverusethis:
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In your face, Tim.
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Painful incredible snubs:
Steely Dan
I tried! Had them at #10, just a peg below my top-tier prog favorites.
I see what you did there :neverusethis:
At any rate, Steely Dan didn't make my top 25, but would have been in a top 100. Great band!
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Painful incredible snubs:
Steely Dan
I tried! Had them at #10, just a peg below my top-tier prog favorites.
I see what you did there :neverusethis:
I don't!
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Just like Steven Wilson, I appreciate PT to some extent but they were not on my list. Was definitely expecting them here though. I think they are probably the most popular modern prog band from the 90s on, maybe even more than DT but I could be wrong.
I’ve shared my thoughts about PT generally back when Steven Wilson came off the board. I did have a period when I was pretty into them after In Absentia came out, and I have everything from Stupid Dream to Fear of a Blank Planet, so I definitely know a good chunk of their catalog. I didn’t care for Blackwing much at all, and while I liked Blank Planet a little better, I just sort of lost interest after that. Even In Absentia, which I think of as a bit of a masterpiece, I just can’t really listen to anymore because of the subject matter. These days I think Lightbulb Sun is my favorite album by them.
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The Fuq? How can you not have heard that on AM radio in your youth, Tim?
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The non Metal side of DTF seems to have won this countdown.
This is a bit surprising to me, because the most popular period of PT was their “metal years” and it’s that metal run of albums that is largely responsible for them being on this list at all.
They found a nice blend of “Radiohead meets Opeth” that was very unique. But I would definitely say it was metal.
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The Fuq? How can you not have heard that on AM radio in your youth, Tim?
I've heard Steely Dan before. I just didn't know what the reference was. I couldn't tell you the title of one of their songs, but I'm sure I'd recognize like a dozen or so.
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Some grousing about the lack of metal on the list, but PT certainly have their metal element (though I prefer their non-metal stuff).
What surprises me a bit is the lack of popular 90s acts in the top 50. Yeah, many of the bands were still active and releasing notable albums in the 90s, but none of the prominent bands who sort of defined the 90s are on the list. Radiohead is probably the closest, but I think they were a little further from the mainstream. Tool too I guess. I’m actually a pretty big fan of 90s rock, but even my list reflected more bands from the 70s, 80s, and 00s than bands who were prominent in the 90s.
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Bunch of whiny-ass old farts in here. :chill
I had Porcupine Tree at number 1, and I'm proud to put them there. I've been a fan for almost 30 years at this point. I find their work to be consistently high quality, and I've really enjoyed their evolution from "fake" band to a full on, critically-acclaimed outfit. I love the atmosphere they create. Every time I put one of their records on, I'm not just listening to it, I'm transported into the universe of the album. They go to great lengths to make their albums experiences, and not just a collection of songs. I'm all about that.
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The Fuq? How can you not have heard that on AM radio in your youth, Tim?
I've heard Steely Dan before. I just didn't know what the reference was. I couldn't tell you the title of one of their songs, but I'm sure I'd recognize like a dozen or so.
It's a tittle of a famous song. He'll, we all sing it pretending to be a Michael McDonald who sang backup on it. Lol
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Bunch of whiny-ass old farts in here. :chill
Guilty! :lol
Some grousing about the lack of metal on the list, but PT certainly have their metal element
:lol
What surprises me a bit is the lack of popular 90s acts in the top 50. Yeah, many of the bands were still active and releasing notable albums in the 90s, but none of the prominent bands who sort of defined the 90s are on the list. Radiohead is probably the closest, but I think they were a little further from the mainstream. Tool too I guess. I’m actually a pretty big fan of 90s rock, but even my list reflected more bands from the 70s, 80s, and 00s than bands who were prominent in the 90s.
I can see your point here.
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Meanwhile, two of the biggest/most popular rock bands ever are likely not even making the top 50.
Just realized what one of them is that you're referring to that has a residency in Vegas and who's drummer is sitting it out. Amiright? ;)
Nope, although that is a glaring omission as well.
One has a drummer who died a little over two years and the other's legendary drummer died before MTV was a thing.
I know what bands you're talking about.
With those hints, I do too. Dunno if I agree with the former, but the latter is surprising, although neither made my list.
Neither would have made my list.
I am not surprised that the first one didn't make it, but the second shocks me. The drummer finished super high on the favorite drummers countdown, and they are a hard rock classic band, so I figured they'd at least make the top 50.
The non Metal side of DTF seems to have won this countdown.
This is a bit surprising to me, because the most popular period of PT was their “metal years” and it’s that metal run of albums that is largely responsible for them being on this list at all.
They found a nice blend of “Radiohead meets Opeth” that was very unique. But I would definitely say it was metal.
I know you put metal years in quotes, but Porcupine Tree was never metal. Maybe you could point to a song or two, but crunchy riffs doesn't automatically equal metal.
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I see what you did there :neverusethis:
Honestly, risked a hand-slap for spotlighting just for the sake of making that pun.
It's a tittle of a famous song. He'll, we all sing it pretending to be a Michael McDonald who sang backup on it. Lol
Greatest backing vocalist in music history.
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Steven Wilson's solo output is, of course, magnitudes of order more interesting than Porcupine Tree's. But it's still good to see PT featuring so highly.
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It's a tittle of a famous song. He'll, we all sing it pretending to be a Michael McDonald who sang backup on it. Lol
Greatest backing vocalist in music history.
truth be, his background vocals are barely distinguishable on Peg. If you played Peg for a Michael McDonald fan who'd never heard it before, and didn't tell them Michael McDonald sings on it, they more than likely would not be able to easily know he was on it.
I say that per in most of the music he sings on, his voice is so distinct, pretty much anyone whose a fan knows it's him,
Not totally unlike not being able to hear James LaBrie on Fates Warning's "Life In Still Water" (where is he?..I've yet to ever really notice him much).
Or Janelle Monae on fun.'s Grammy hit "We Are Young" (or the song she guested on from Duran Duran "Pressure Off" as well)..I have yet to really recognize her vocals on either of these tunes really.
edit: or Eddie Money on Kenny Loggins "I'm Alright" which for years (or decades) he was never credited I guess.
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WUT?
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His voice is multi layered singing, "Peg!" Lol
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Steven Wilson's solo output is, of course, magnitudes of order more interesting than Porcupine Tree's.
Yea, pretty much. Although he's still not THAT good.
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His voice is multi layered singing, "Peg!" Lol
It's literally the most recognizable part of the song. :lol (with apologies to Jay Graydon)
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His voice is multi layered singing, "Peg!" Lol
It's literally the most recognizable part of the song. :lol (with apologies to Jay Graydon)
I don't agree with that at all. I love Aja and have listened to it more times than I can count, and I had forgotten that McDonald was even on it until these reminders today. (Steely Dan was never a band where I checked liner notes for members and that kind of stuff)
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Then you are not paying attention, Kev. His voice is multi layered singing, "PEEEEEG!"
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Bunch of whiny-ass old farts in here. :chill
I had Porcupine Tree at number 1, and I'm proud to put them there. I've been a fan for almost 30 years at this point. I find their work to be consistently high quality, and I've really enjoyed their evolution from "fake" band to a full on, critically-acclaimed outfit. I love the atmosphere they create. Every time I put one of their records on, I'm not just listening to it, I'm transported into the universe of the album. They go to great lengths to make their albums experiences, and not just a collection of songs. I'm all about that.
Steven Wilson is to rock what Taylor Swift is to pop: the haters almost can't stand to see others enjoy it and have to come out of the woodwork to tell us how wrong we are for enjoying their music.
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Yup.
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I heard Steven Wilson dated Travis Kelce.
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Re: PT being “metal”
Any site you go to will describe their period beginning with In Absentia as the band taking on a more metal approach to their sound, and all their albums from IA onward are classified as “progressive metal” albums. I mean, IA starts off with a metal song about a serial killer. How much more metal can you get?
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Metal is a term that lends itself to all sorts of gate keeping, but yeah, PT without any sort of doubt were incorporating metal into their sound during their most popular period starting with In Absentia. I’d argue it’s the only reason they got any sort of mainstream traction.
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Metal is a term that lends itself to all sorts of gate keeping, but yeah, PT without any sort of doubt were incorporating metal into their sound during their most popular period starting with In Absentia. I’d argue it’s the only reason they got any sort of mainstream traction.
I bet that really galled Wilson as well :lol
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PT doesn't really have any albums I would personally consider metal, but there are definitely numerous songs that have a heavy influence of it.
What surprises me a bit is the lack of popular 90s acts in the top 50. Yeah, many of the bands were still active and releasing notable albums in the 90s, but none of the prominent bands who sort of defined the 90s are on the list. Radiohead is probably the closest, but I think they were a little further from the mainstream. Tool too I guess. I’m actually a pretty big fan of 90s rock, but even my list reflected more bands from the 70s, 80s, and 00s than bands who were prominent in the 90s.
Who are you thinking of here? Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Dave Matthews?
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I'm a pretty casual PT fan. I have a few albums and liked them but never go out of my way to listen to any of them. I guess I flirted with them a few years ago, enjoyed listening for something different and moved on. IA, LS, Fear and Deadwing are all great albums though. I wouldn't call them metal at all. Some of the songs do have some metal influences but I don't think you can call PT a progressive metal band at all.
I can see why people either love or hate SW, but I'll sit in the middle. He's a great musician and songwriter but not a personality that ranks up there for me. I really have no time for anything outside those PT albums either. The quiet stuff bores me to tears. I was interested in Storm Corrosion when it came out, picked up the CD and fucking fell asleep during the second song.
No surprise PT made the top 5 though.
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06. Pink Floyd
05. Porcupine Tree
Pink Floyd was super cool when I was in middle school, so when I started getting into popular/rock music, I really tried. I made other attempts when I started getting into prog bands like Yes and Genesis. Floyd has a couple of cool moments, but I've never heard anything that I'd really go out of my way to listen to. They always just feel into the moody/stoner music category.
I feel pretty confident that, at some point over the past 20 years, I've listed to 1 or 2 Porcupine Tree songs, but I can't remember anything.
1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. Fates Warning (12) (I'll be very sad if they don't make the list. I'm guessing if they aren't one of the next few picks we won't see them.)
4. LOCK
5. Yes (15) (LOCK)
6. Judas Priest (17) (Slightly better than 50/50)
7. Queensryche (8) (Probably (75%+))
8. At this point, I think there's no chance.
9. See #8
10. No way, eh?
11. Genesis (7) (Probably 90%+)
12. LOCK
13. Helloween (38)
14. UFO (42)
15. Led Zeppelin (10) (I think they're probably a lock, but 17 or higher seems surprising to me)
16. The Beatles (9) (LOCK)
17. At this point, I'm going to say no better than a 20% chance - surprisingly underrated around here
18. See #17
19. Black Sabbath (20)
20. Not a chance
21. I'm probably the only one to submit this artist
22. See #17
23. Probably?
24. Scorpions (46T)
25. See #17
Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeath, Riverside, KISS, Ayreon, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Pain of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed & Cambria, Mastodon, Queen, Tool, Transatlantic, Marillion, Opeth, Van Halen (36), Steven Wilson, Haken, Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree
So...the top 4 are obvious - my 1, 2, 4 and 12 bands. All of my top 7 will make it, and I hit on 14 of the top 25, which is a couple better than I expected.
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I probably sampled PT years ago when I heard their name all the time on this forum. Couldn't remember anything. Just tried again, bored beyond belief.
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Re: PT being “metal”
Any site you go to will describe their period beginning with In Absentia as the band taking on a more metal approach to their sound, and all their albums from IA onward are classified as “progressive metal” albums. I mean, IA starts off with a metal song about a serial killer. How much more metal can you get?
With regard to the sites, irrelevant. Just because some get it wrong doesn't mean we have to as well. The idea that any PT album is progressive metal is just laughable.
Blackest Eyes is metal? Go tell your average metal fan and watch them die laughing at the idea of that being a metal song. It's hard rock. Just because it was much more rocking than what PT had done before doesn't mean it was metal. I mean, really?
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PT is never metal. It's preposterous.
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Re: PT being “metal”
Any site you go to will describe their period beginning with In Absentia as the band taking on a more metal approach to their sound, and all their albums from IA onward are classified as “progressive metal” albums. I mean, IA starts off with a metal song about a serial killer. How much more metal can you get?
With regard to the sites, irrelevant. Just because some get it wrong doesn't mean we have to as well. The idea that any PT album is progressive metal is just laughable.
Blackest Eyes is metal? Go tell your average metal fan and watch them die laughing at the idea of that being a metal song. It's hard rock. Just because it was much more rocking than what PT had done before doesn't mean it was metal. I mean, really?
Pretty much this. Although they do have some very metal sections in a few of their songs, but mostly on the albums Deadwing and Fear of a Blank Planet. And even on their newest one a bit.
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Re: PT being “metal”
Any site you go to will describe their period beginning with In Absentia as the band taking on a more metal approach to their sound, and all their albums from IA onward are classified as “progressive metal” albums. I mean, IA starts off with a metal song about a serial killer. How much more metal can you get?
With regard to the sites, irrelevant. Just because some get it wrong doesn't mean we have to as well. The idea that any PT album is progressive metal is just laughable.
Blackest Eyes is metal? Go tell your average metal fan and watch them die laughing at the idea of that being a metal song. It's hard rock. Just because it was much more rocking than what PT had done before doesn't mean it was metal. I mean, really?
Pretty much this. Although they do have some very metal sections in a few of their songs, but mostly on the albums Deadwing and Fear of a Blank Planet. And even on their newest one a bit.
Right. Just because their albums have a few sections that most would describe as metal doesn't make the albums or band metal in general. That would be like us having called Dream Theater soft rock after the release of I&W and saying, "just look at Another Day, Surrounded and Wait for Sleep." :P
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PT is never metal. It's preposterous.
It's spelt pretentious.
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Big fan of Porcupine Tree - they weren't excessively far from my top 25, but never truly considered for it. Still, great band. First heard of them shortly after Signify was released. Speaking of which - I think I've shared it before, but here's a performance from all the way back in 1997, on an afternoon (!) Italian TV show:
https://youtu.be/aQ6AvMYRIVQ?si=cyK7F_UckG-N3cA3
BTW, this program was quite cool, on occasion, as the performances were live and the host (while a bit weird) wasn't always going for the obvious names. At the time, PT weren't particularly popular as a band yet, but already had a pretty loyal following in Italy (and Rome especially - I believe the Coma Divine live album was recorded there). Anyway, there's a young Steven Wilson on Italian TV for ya :biggrin:
That was the literal first time I'd heard (of) the band. I liked Signify right away, and enjoyed the poppier songwriting influences on Stupid Dream and LIghtbulb Sun (LB is actually still one of my favorite PT records). The In Absentia-Deadwing-FoABP run is excellent. I like C/C better than The Incident. As for the pre-Signify albums, I think I enjoy the live versions of the songs that were subsequently played better than the studio counterparts.
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Although I'm in the PT (my #18) camp that thinks the band truly achieved their sound with Lightbulb Sun, being In Absentia/Deadwing/Fear of a Blank Planet, their holy trinity, I love their discography from Signify to Closure/Continuation. I think Up the Downstair and The Sky Moves Sideways are good, but I think SW was still learning how to compose more structured and therefore better songs (I know I'm being kind of heretic here).
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PT doesn't really have any albums I would personally consider metal, but there are definitely numerous songs that have a heavy influence of it.
What surprises me a bit is the lack of popular 90s acts in the top 50. Yeah, many of the bands were still active and releasing notable albums in the 90s, but none of the prominent bands who sort of defined the 90s are on the list. Radiohead is probably the closest, but I think they were a little further from the mainstream. Tool too I guess. I’m actually a pretty big fan of 90s rock, but even my list reflected more bands from the 70s, 80s, and 00s than bands who were prominent in the 90s.
Who are you thinking of here? Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Dave Matthews?
Or Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains. More just interesting that there’s a whole decade that kind of got skipped. DT were kind of the anti-grunge (or anti-alt rock) band for a lot of people here I imagine. I remember feeling that way when I first got into them, even though I grew up liking all of those bands.
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PT doesn't really have any albums I would personally consider metal, but there are definitely numerous songs that have a heavy influence of it.
What surprises me a bit is the lack of popular 90s acts in the top 50. Yeah, many of the bands were still active and releasing notable albums in the 90s, but none of the prominent bands who sort of defined the 90s are on the list. Radiohead is probably the closest, but I think they were a little further from the mainstream. Tool too I guess. I’m actually a pretty big fan of 90s rock, but even my list reflected more bands from the 70s, 80s, and 00s than bands who were prominent in the 90s.
Who are you thinking of here? Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Dave Matthews?
Or Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains. More just interesting that there’s a whole decade that kind of got skipped. DT were kind of the anti-grunge (or anti-alt rock) band for a lot of people here I imagine. I remember feeling that way when I first got into them, even though I grew up liking all of those bands.
I had Smashing Pumpkins in my top 25 and Alice in Chains in my top 50.
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I've got Portishead and Massive Attack on my top 25 :corn
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Re: PT being “metal”
Any site you go to will describe their period beginning with In Absentia as the band taking on a more metal approach to their sound, and all their albums from IA onward are classified as “progressive metal” albums. I mean, IA starts off with a metal song about a serial killer. How much more metal can you get?
With regard to the sites, irrelevant. Just because some get it wrong doesn't mean we have to as well. The idea that any PT album is progressive metal is just laughable.
Blackest Eyes is metal? Go tell your average metal fan and watch them die laughing at the idea of that being a metal song. It's hard rock. Just because it was much more rocking than what PT had done before doesn't mean it was metal. I mean, really?
I think we had this exact conversation about Queensryche a while ago. Yeah, there are degrees of heaviness in metal, and some bands are heavier than others. But PT on In Absentia and Deadwing are as heavy as some of the earlier DT albums or QR or whatever. I’d say it’s a clear reference to “metal” when PT do it. I think hard rock is probably a worse descriptor.
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This is where our early lists by decade by when a bands first recording came out is misleading.
If we go by first recording, Porcupine Tree was my highest rated 90s band. But I tend to associate them more with the 00s.
My highest rated band that I actually associate with the 90s was Tool. I feel no harm in mentioning that Primus was extremely close behind them. (No chance they are top five among the aggregate) and I actually surprised myself by not putting Soundgarden on my top 25 and they are easily my favorite of the Seattle big 4, and the only one I still spin regularly to this day. That’s just a big oversight on my part. If I could do it again, I would surely put them somewhere in the teens.
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Hmmm, I didn't think about that, but based on what my top 25 would have been and going with each artist's first studio release:
60s - 6
70s - 6
80s - 2
90s - 8
00s - 3
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I mean, there's no way this is not a "metal" passage:
https://youtu.be/aLd7QVOOJ2w?t=645
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I mean, there's no way this is not a "metal" passage:
https://youtu.be/aLd7QVOOJ2w?t=645
Nope. It's hard rock.
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I mean, there's no way this is not a "metal" passage:
https://youtu.be/aLd7QVOOJ2w?t=645
Okay, so having a passage means you are that type of band in general?
To go back to my earlier point, then Dream Theater is soft rock, because how is most of this not a soft rock passage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYtiDCXLAcQ
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I mean, there's no way this is not a "metal" passage:
https://youtu.be/aLd7QVOOJ2w?t=645
Definitely has a nu-metal vibe to it. However, you can't cherry pick small timestamps and claim a genre on a band, not a band such as diverse and with the amount of albums PT have. I think this is more the scenario as I said, the influences are there in brief moments from time to time, however it doesn't make them a metal band.
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I mean, there's no way this is not a "metal" passage:
https://youtu.be/aLd7QVOOJ2w?t=645
Okay, so having a passage means you are that type of band in general?
To go back to my earlier point, then Dream Theater is soft rock, because how is most of this not a soft rock passage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYtiDCXLAcQ
No, DT are actually a old school ragtime big band, as they play that style in TDOE.
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I mean, there's no way this is not a "metal" passage:
https://youtu.be/aLd7QVOOJ2w?t=645
Okay, so having a passage means you are that type of band in general?
To go back to my earlier point, then Dream Theater is soft rock, because how is most of this not a soft rock passage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYtiDCXLAcQ
No, DT are actually a old school ragtime big band, as they play that style in TDOE.
Yep. And the Beatles were a metal band because, ya know, Helter Skelter! Rush did that rap in Roll the Bones, so they were a rap band!
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I never said PT are a metal band. Just that they incorporated metal into their music during the In Absentia, Deadwing, FOABP run. Particularly with regard to this sentiment, I doubt PT would have been near as high in this poll if they didn't have a significant metal element in their music:
The non Metal side of DTF seems to have won this countdown.
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The thing is, we’re not just talking about a very insignificant subsection of a band’s sound (as with the DT and Beatles examples mentioned) with PT, it was a major component and significant part of their entire approach from 2002 forward.
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I don't really consider PT a metal band, either. It's definitely in their sound as an influence, but it's not what I listen to the band for. Nobody really recommends PT being like "check this out, it's super heavy :metal", it's more "this is such an emotional song" or "the atmosphere here is just wonderful".
But I agree that it's likely not a coincidence that they got a lot more successful the same time that they introduced more metal riffs. They certainly add another layer to the band's sound.
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One of my first favorite band hit the stage at number 4
04. Metallica
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Highest Finish: 1 (Pappy)
Number of top 10 finishes: 10
Number of Lists appeared on: 21 (coz, Dream Team, Metropolaris, pg1067, ReaperKK, TAC, twosuitsluke, devieira73, Vmadera73, Dave_Manchester, Trav86, nobloodyname, Pappy, Fonzie, Setlist Scotty, CharlesPL, The Great Zo, bosk1, Zoom E, MustActFastToCoverUp, nick_z)
Landed at number 23 for my list. I don't listen to Metallica much anymore but they made the list on the strength of their discography and the impact they had on me as a young music fan.
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Metallica sneaks onto my list at #23, mainly on the strength of Ride the Lightning / Master of Puppets / AFJA. But a huge shout out to S&M, which was part of my introduction to the band. Favorite song might be "The Call of Ktulu", and if so then it's the S&M version.
A more juvenile version of myself was also quite fond of their cover of "So What". :lol
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#2 for me, although my fandom has waned some they’re still pretty great live.
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There was no way for a band this enormous not to make it. Number four might be a bit too generous in my opinion, but I still love the group. :tup
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The Metal side of DTF seems to have won this countdown.
First Porcupine Tree (SUPER METAL!!!) in the top 5 and now Metallica.
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The Metal side of DTF seems to have won this countdown.
First Porcupine Tree (SUPER METAL!!!) in the top 5 and now Metallica.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQYSnyM_WtZZE6u9s4jrBs1IKqUJ5OO8fCqFQ&usqp=CAU
They didn't make my list. I really like the Black Album, but 80s Metallica does virtually nothing for me, and post '91 Metallica can count all of the good songs on my two hands.
:dunno:
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Jokes aside, Metallica would make my top 100 now, but not my top 50. Master and Ride are still great to crank on occasion, and I still dig a lot from both Load and The Black Album, but I just don't listen to them that much anymore. And honestly, aside from that stretch in 1996 when I finally got into them, they have never been a band who dominated my CD player for any length of time.
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Not that high for me, but definitely worthy being the second best metal act I know (the best one I'm almost sure is coming next). As a kid during the '80's I was shoved Metallica down my ears daily by my brother, god rest his soul, and that provoked a kind of rivality refusal. Then I wised up and learned to appreciate the greatness of uncompromised raw emotion vesseled through really innovative uncompromising music. I am now fully convinced Metallica has been for my teen bro what DT has been for teen me: a generational act smashing boundaries in spite of the mainstream.
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8 for 8.
7 for 7.
6 for 6.
5 for 5.
4 for 4.
I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
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-Genesis
-Haken
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-Led Zeppelin
-Metallica
-Pink Floyd
-Porcupine Tree
-Queensryche
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-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
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One of my first favorite band hit the stage at number 4
04. Metallica
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Highest Finish: 1 (Pappy)
Number of top 10 finishes: 10
Number of Lists appeared on: 21 (coz, Dream Team, Metropolaris, pg1067, ReaperKK, TAC, twosuitsluke, devieira73, Vmadera73, Dave_Manchester, Trav86, nobloodyname, Pappy, Fonzie, Setlist Scotty, CharlesPL, The Great Zo, bosk1, Zoom E, MustActFastToCoverUp, nick_z)
Landed at number 23 for my list. I don't listen to Metallica much anymore but they made the list on the strength of their discography and the impact they had on me as a young music fan.
NR: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Agalloch, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Helloween, Between The Buried And Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Peter Gabriel, Megadeth, Pain Of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed And Cambria, Mastodon, Tool, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Opeth, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Led Zeppelin, Queensryche, Metallica
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
27 The Beatles
26 Queen
25 (Leave this band behind)
24 (Interesting but not looking quite good)
23 (Most unlikely)
22 Pink Floyd
21 (Not likely)
20 Riverside
19 (Most likely not)
18 (Unlikely)
17 (Unfortunately not lucky enough)
16 (Pretty sure they won't make it)
15 (Only if hell freezes over)
14 Steven Wilson
13 Yes
12 Genesis
11 (This outfit won't make it)
10 Ayreon
09 Haken
08 Porcupine Tree
07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
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03 Transatlantic
02 (Totally nother making it)
01 Big Big Train
Metallica did not place for me. I've never really been into them so they were never going to rank in my list.
Looks like out-of my top 25, I'll have 14 bands that ranked in the countdown, with nine of my top ten making it, which I consider pretty good IMO.
-Marc.
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The non Metal side of DTF seems to have won this countdown.
This is a bit surprising to me, because the most popular period of PT was their “metal years” and it’s that metal run of albums that is largely responsible for them being on this list at all.
They found a nice blend of “Radiohead meets Opeth” that was very unique. But I would definitely say it was metal.
That sounds HORRIBLE to me. As some wise old man said, "Ugh".
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Bunch of whiny-ass old farts in here. :chill
I had Porcupine Tree at number 1, and I'm proud to put them there. I've been a fan for almost 30 years at this point. I find their work to be consistently high quality, and I've really enjoyed their evolution from "fake" band to a full on, critically-acclaimed outfit. I love the atmosphere they create. Every time I put one of their records on, I'm not just listening to it, I'm transported into the universe of the album. They go to great lengths to make their albums experiences, and not just a collection of songs. I'm all about that.
Steven Wilson is to rock what Taylor Swift is to pop: the haters almost can't stand to see others enjoy it and have to come out of the woodwork to tell us how wrong we are for enjoying their music.
The problem is, the haters are wrong on Taylor Swift and they're onto something with Steven Wilson.... ;) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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I barely listen to metal nowadays, but Metallica is one (pun intended) of the bands I'd go for. They didn't make my Top 25, but would be somewhere around 30-50 I'd guess.
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The Metal side of DTF seems to have won this countdown.
KevSchmev/Sacul vs. TAC/wolfking tag team cage-match showdown, get your tickets now!
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Steven Wilson
NR Devin Townsend
NR Tool
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Queensryche
NR Porcupine Tree
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Opeth
NR Nightwish
NR Metallica
NR Megadeth
NR Mastodon
NR Katatonia
NR Judas Priest
NR Helloween
NR Haken
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Fates Warning
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
30 Transatlantic (The Whirlwind, Bridge Across Forever, The Absolute Universe)
26 Van Halen (Fair Warning, A Different Kind Of Truth, 1984)
25 Sadly, not a shot
24 Sadly, not a shot
23 Pink Floyd (Wish You Were Here, Dark Side Of The Moon, The Wall)
22 Queen (Queen II; Innuendo; A Kind Of Magic)
21 Given
20 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
19 Probably not; they are a classic, but don't seem to get much love here
18 Sadly, not a shot
17 Sadly, not a shot
16 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
15 Probably not; it's an offshoot of another band here and it won't likely make the grade
14 Sadly, not a shot
13 Sadly, not a shot
12 Neal Morse. (And yes, I lumped.). (Innocence and Danger; The Grand Experiment; TSOAD)
11 Black Sabbath (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sabotage, Heaven and Hell)
10 Sadly, not a shot
9 Given
8 Probably not; his more popular (here) incarnation already appeared
7 Given
6 Marillion (Clutching At Straws, Misplaced Childhood, Brave)
5 Yes (Going For The One, Fragile, Close To The Edge)
4 Led Zeppelin (Physical Graffiti, IV, How The West Was Won)
3. Kiss (Rock And Roll Over; Creatures Of The Night; Hotter Than Hell)
2 Genesis (Wind And Wuthering, Duke, The Lamb...]
1 The Beatles (Abbey Road, Sgt. Pepper, Revolver)
Porcupine Tree and Metallica are both no-shows on my list. Metallica certainly had a shot, but there's too much in the catalogue that is "eh" to justify. What I like, I LOVE, but there's a lot that doesn't move the needle.
4 for 7 I think on "givens".
I don't think the final three are in any dispute, it's just the order. Some of the snubs are just stunning. Three in particular (all three have drummer problems; one died early, one died late, and one has decided to step back a bit).
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On a whim hearing "Fuel" and "The Memory Remains" on the radio was a huge part of my gateway into metal. I like much of their material (though I still have never felt compelled to investigate the Lulu disaster), but I just am rarely in the mood to listen to more than a song or two of them at a time anymore.
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There's no denying Metallica's influence and reach. I mean, they are easily the most successful American metal band, and it's not even close. I knew of them thanks to Modern Drummer magazine when I was a kid, and when the One video came out, that blew people's minds because Metallica didn't make videos at the time. I had Kill 'Em All, Puppets, and Justice on near constant rotation in middle school, and I really liked the Black Album as well. But I lost interest big time after Load came out, and die-hard Metallica fans can be sort of toxic. I still respect them, but the music they've made since 1996 just doesn't align with my tastes anymore.
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Not a fan of Metallica on any level really. I did like some of their 90s stuff a bit back in the day. Hero of the Day, Whiskey in the Jar, bits of the Black album. Would never seek them out though.
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Still at 10
Metallica
The only band I have got payed to watch live.
Worked as an assistant to a handicapped guy back in the day and got to go with him to see Metallica live.
Would not have seen them otherwise as they are not really my cup of tea.
I do appreciate the Black album and some other things I have heard it's just that there are so many other bands and artists that I appreciate more.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Haken, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Queensrÿche, Genesis, Porcupine Tree, Metallica
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21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
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19 Steven Wilson (favorite album: The Raven That Refused To Sing, favorite song: The Raven That Refused To Sing)
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
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15 Yes (Favorite album: Close to the Edge, favorite song:Roundabout)
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
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6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
5 Pink Floyd (favorite album: Dark Side of the Moon, favorite song: Wish You Were Here)
4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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Metallica didn't make my list but a long time ago they were one of several gateway bands for me into things like DT and Tool
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22 Symphony X
21 Transatlantic
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19 Megadeth
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13 YES
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9 Marillion
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6 Metallica
5 Genesis
4 Pink Floyd
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2 Avenged Sevenfold
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Metallica? Meh. Can’t wait to see Weezer claim their rightful #1 spot.
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Metallica? Meh. Can’t wait to see Weezer claim their rightful #1 spot.
Weezer were on my list :metal
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Metallica? Meh. Can’t wait to see Weezer claim their rightful #1 spot.
Weezer were on my list :metal
:metal :metal
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I'm curious who the shocking snubs are. I suspect they aren't that shocking, since less than 50 people voted and there are lots of bands out there.
Metallica wasn't on my list. I like the Black album and Master of Puppets, and random other songs. I saw them live once and enjoyed the show. They've just never been a favorite of mine.
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Bunch of whiny-ass old farts in here. :chill
I had Porcupine Tree at number 1, and I'm proud to put them there. I've been a fan for almost 30 years at this point. I find their work to be consistently high quality, and I've really enjoyed their evolution from "fake" band to a full on, critically-acclaimed outfit. I love the atmosphere they create. Every time I put one of their records on, I'm not just listening to it, I'm transported into the universe of the album. They go to great lengths to make their albums experiences, and not just a collection of songs. I'm all about that.
Steven Wilson is to rock what Taylor Swift is to pop: the haters almost can't stand to see others enjoy it and have to come out of the woodwork to tell us how wrong we are for enjoying their music.
The problem is, the haters are wrong on Taylor Swift and they're onto something with Steven Wilson.... ;) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Metallica? Meh. Can’t wait to see Weezer claim their rightful #1 spot.
Weezer were on my list :metal
:metal :metal
They would have been on my list as well, but they wouldn't have stood a chance on this board. By the way, Metro, that avatar is hilarious. :lol
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Metallica (my #11) is truly amazing and has a lot of consistency in their discography, even St. Anger I think there's a lot to like and sure it could be better with an effective production. And it's unbelievable that they are so mainstream, but I think this is truly a sign of their quality and greatness. I have all their albums, but I'm not an old school Metallica fan (although I also love that era), since I'm begin to listen to them with TBA and my fave album is Death Magnetic.
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I'm curious who the shocking snubs are. I suspect they aren't that shocking, since less than 50 people voted and there are lots of bands out there.
Metallica wasn't on my list. I like the Black album and Master of Puppets, and random other songs. I saw them live once and enjoyed the show. They've just never been a favorite of mine.
I wouldn’t say I’ve been shocked by any snubs yet. The voting is just reflective of the personal tastes and preferences of the 40-something voters. There are a few bands that I hoped would have at least made the top 50, but I’m not surprised by who isn’t placing really.
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Anyone doing worse than me? 3 entries so far and none higher than 33. Although one of the final 3 is a lock.
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To recap:
08 - Queensryche
07 - Genesis
06 - Pink Floyd
05 - Porcupine Tree
04 - Metallica
All except Queensryche would have made my list. Floyd, PT, and Metallica would have been Top 10 for me.
I'm not surprised that QR made the rankings, but I'm a little surprised at how highly they ranked.
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Metallica not on my list but the first metal band I got into so they are special to me.
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Anyone doing worse than me? 3 entries so far and none higher than 33. Although one of the final 3 is a lock.
I'm on four. Pretty sure I'll end on seven.
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04. Metallica
My #12 band, and I think I might be a little surprised to see them at #4. If they had put out anything in the last 30 years that was near as good as their first four albums, I'd have had them higher.
1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. Fates Warning (12) (I'll be very sad if they don't make the list. I'm guessing if they aren't one of the next few picks we won't see them.)
4. LOCK
5. Yes (15) (LOCK)
6. Judas Priest (17) (Slightly better than 50/50)
7. Queensryche (8) (Probably (75%+))
8. At this point, I think there's no chance.
9. See #8
10. No way, eh?
11. Genesis (7) (Probably 90%+)
12. Metallica (4) (LOCK)
13. Helloween (38)
14. UFO (42)
15. Led Zeppelin (10) (I think they're probably a lock, but 17 or higher seems surprising to me)
16. The Beatles (9) (LOCK)
17. At this point, I'm going to say no better than a 20% chance - surprisingly underrated around here
18. See #17
19. Black Sabbath (20)
20. Not a chance
21. I'm probably the only one to submit this artist
22. See #17
23. Probably?
24. Scorpions (46T)
25. See #17
Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeath, Riverside, KISS, Ayreon, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Pain of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed & Cambria, Mastodon, Queen, Tool, Transatlantic, Marillion, Opeth, Van Halen (36), Steven Wilson, Haken, Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree
I'm curious who the shocking snubs are.
Are there any? We know who the top 3 are. I think there's probably two artists on my list (my #18 and my #23) that I'm mildly surprised didn't crack even the top 50, but I wouldn't go so far as to say "shocking." While I'm disappointed that none of my 8-10 artists made the top 50, I'm really not surprised.
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My #12 band, and I think I might be a little surprised to see them at #4. If they had put out anything in the last 30 years that was near as good as their first four albums, I'd have had them higher.
I'm sure the initial 80s albums were key to them making people's lists - and the black album - but had they continued in the same direction they did with the Loads and St. Anger, maybe they wouldn't be on the list or not as high. I think the last 3 albums have to varying degrees redeemed them in the eyes of a lot of fans. And actually I think the same thing could be said for Queensryche as well.
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Well I'm at 9 and the last 3 will all be on my list so it will end up 12/25 or almost 50%.
19. Megadeth
16. Van Halen
13. Queensryche
12. Black Sabbath
8. Symphony X
7. Scorpions
6. Beatles
4. Judas Priest
2. Metallica
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I'm curious who the shocking snubs are. I suspect they aren't that shocking, since less than 50 people voted and there are lots of bands out there.
Metallica wasn't on my list. I like the Black album and Master of Puppets, and random other songs. I saw them live once and enjoyed the show. They've just never been a favorite of mine.
I wouldn’t say I’ve been shocked by any snubs yet. The voting is just reflective of the personal tastes and preferences of the 40-something voters. There are a few bands that I hoped would have at least made the top 50, but I’m not surprised by who isn’t placing really.
Well, that's the point. You're in your late 40's and you grew up in the MTV-Amnesty International era. Where are:
- Dire Straits
- REM
- U2
- Tears For Fears
- Aerosmith
If you're a bit older than that, where are:
- The Rolling Stones
- The Who. THE FUCKING WHO!!!
- Emerson Lake And Palmer
- Aerosmith
- Jethro Tull
- AC/DC
- Billy Joel
If you're a bit younger than that, where are:
- Pearl Jam
- Soundgarden
- Nirvana
- Mother Love Bone
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Had Dire Straits and Jethro Tull on my list. Really expected both to make it.
Didn't have Metallica on my list though.
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Charli XCX is on my list, but didn't make it :(
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Charli XCX is on my list, but didn't make it :(
Interesting.
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i guess it's possible she ends up in the Top 3 :P
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Anyone doing worse than me? 3 entries so far and none higher than 33. Although one of the final 3 is a lock.
I'm on four. Pretty sure I'll end on seven.
Same :)
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3. Fates Warning (12) (I'll be very sad if they don't make the list. I'm guessing if they aren't one of the next few picks we won't see them.)
They made it. :) Or I guess you already know that since you have the 12 there.
I'm curious who the shocking snubs are.
Are there any? We know who the top 3 are. I think there's probably two artists on my list (my #18 and my #23) that I'm mildly surprised didn't crack even the top 50, but I wouldn't go so far as to say "shocking." While I'm disappointed that none of my 8-10 artists made the top 50, I'm really not surprised.
Nothing that I thought would be shocking. Some I'm disappointed won't be there but not really surprised. Maybe a tiny bit but I shouldn't have been.
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I'm curious who the shocking snubs are. I suspect they aren't that shocking, since less than 50 people voted and there are lots of bands out there.
Metallica wasn't on my list. I like the Black album and Master of Puppets, and random other songs. I saw them live once and enjoyed the show. They've just never been a favorite of mine.
I wouldn’t say I’ve been shocked by any snubs yet. The voting is just reflective of the personal tastes and preferences of the 40-something voters. There are a few bands that I hoped would have at least made the top 50, but I’m not surprised by who isn’t placing really.
Well, that's the point. You're in your late 40's and you grew up in the MTV-Amnesty International era. Where are:
- Dire Straits
- REM
- U2
- Tears For Fears
- Aerosmith
If you're a bit older than that, where are:
- The Rolling Stones
- The Who. THE FUCKING WHO!!!
- Emerson Lake And Palmer
- Aerosmith
- Jethro Tull
- AC/DC
- Billy Joel
If you're a bit younger than that, where are:
- Pearl Jam
- Soundgarden
- Nirvana
- Mother Love Bone
But why should any of those artists be on everyone's list? If I loathe Nirvana outside of Heart-Shaped Box, why would I put them on my list? If I think Steely Dan is nothing more than lifeless, smug, too-clever by half, clinical drivel made by cork-sniffers for insufferable cork-sniffers, why would I put them on my list? If Tim HATES Soundgarden, why would he put them on his list?
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There's also just a numbers aspect to this. Those 16 bands I imagine all got some votes, but we all only listed 25 bands each, and there are certainly a lot more than 9 other bands that a lot of people like here.
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I'm curious who the shocking snubs are. I suspect they aren't that shocking, since less than 50 people voted and there are lots of bands out there.
Metallica wasn't on my list. I like the Black album and Master of Puppets, and random other songs. I saw them live once and enjoyed the show. They've just never been a favorite of mine.
I wouldn’t say I’ve been shocked by any snubs yet. The voting is just reflective of the personal tastes and preferences of the 40-something voters. There are a few bands that I hoped would have at least made the top 50, but I’m not surprised by who isn’t placing really.
Well, that's the point. You're in your late 40's and you grew up in the MTV-Amnesty International era. Where are:
- Dire Straits
- REM
- U2
- Tears For Fears
- Aerosmith
If you're a bit older than that, where are:
- The Rolling Stones
- The Who. THE FUCKING WHO!!!
- Emerson Lake And Palmer
- Aerosmith
- Jethro Tull
- AC/DC
- Billy Joel
If you're a bit younger than that, where are:
- Pearl Jam
- Soundgarden
- Nirvana
- Mother Love Bone
None of these bands made my list, but Alice in Chains did. I love Ten and Vs, and some of Vitalogy, but they dropped off after that for me. I haven't heard the last few. I have nothing bad to say about them and like a lot of what they do (changing setlists, making shows available to buy). Just not as consistent enough for my list.
I guess Soundgarden is the same. I barely listened to their first couple - and maybe they're great albums and for whatever reason I never gave them the time needed. But they don't have enough albums I love to crack my list. Nirvana even less; what I like I love, but it's not enough.
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3. Fates Warning (12) (I'll be very sad if they don't make the list. I'm guessing if they aren't one of the next few picks we won't see them.)
They made it. :) Or I guess you already know that since you have the 12 there.
Yeah...after I made all of my "LOCK" and other comments (which was, I think, after the first 8 or so of the top 25 had been revealed), I left those comments in parentheses to remind myself (and probably no one else) what I had predicted.
I'm curious who the shocking snubs are. I suspect they aren't that shocking, since less than 50 people voted and there are lots of bands out there.
Metallica wasn't on my list. I like the Black album and Master of Puppets, and random other songs. I saw them live once and enjoyed the show. They've just never been a favorite of mine.
I wouldn’t say I’ve been shocked by any snubs yet. The voting is just reflective of the personal tastes and preferences of the 40-something voters. There are a few bands that I hoped would have at least made the top 50, but I’m not surprised by who isn’t placing really.
Well, that's the point. You're in your late 40's and you grew up in the MTV-Amnesty International era. Where are:
- Dire Straits
- REM
- U2
- Tears For Fears
- Aerosmith
If you're a bit older than that, where are:
- The Rolling Stones
- The Who. THE FUCKING WHO!!!
- Emerson Lake And Palmer
- Aerosmith
- Jethro Tull
- AC/DC
- Billy Joel
If you're a bit younger than that, where are:
- Pearl Jam
- Soundgarden
- Nirvana
- Mother Love Bone
But why should any of those artists be on everyone's list? If I loathe Nirvana outside of Heart-Shaped Box, why would I put them on my list? If I think Steely Dan is nothing more than lifeless, smug, too-clever by half, clinical drivel made by cork-sniffers for insufferable cork-sniffers, why would I put them on my list? If Tim HATES Soundgarden, why would he put them on his list?
Yeah...none of those are artists who are big around here. At the risk of "spotlighting," ELP was my #17 artist, and I commented that they're surprisingly underrated around here. Given all the love for Yes, Floyd and Genesis, ELP gets lost in the shuffle (as does Jethro Tull - my #22 - to a lesser extent). However, that was completely expected.
The Stones and The Who? There just isn't a lot of love for anyone other than the Beatles from that era (I actually forgot to include The Who in my rankings, but I'm not sure if they'd have cracked the top 25). AC/DC, Billy Joel and Aerosmith (on the list twice?) get even less interest around here. KISS making the top 50 was probably more of a surprise than AC/DC, Joel and Aerosmith not making it.
I guess I'm probably a little surprised not to see Nirvana and Pearl Jam in the top 50, but grunge isn't big around here. And who the heck is Mother Love Bone? LOL!
Dire Straits/REM/U2/Tears for Fears? None of those get much of any run around here.
There have been a lot of artists I've never heard of in the top 50, but I expected that because those are the artists that get a lot of run around here.
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I'm curious who the shocking snubs are. I suspect they aren't that shocking, since less than 50 people voted and there are lots of bands out there.
Metallica wasn't on my list. I like the Black album and Master of Puppets, and random other songs. I saw them live once and enjoyed the show. They've just never been a favorite of mine.
I wouldn’t say I’ve been shocked by any snubs yet. The voting is just reflective of the personal tastes and preferences of the 40-something voters. There are a few bands that I hoped would have at least made the top 50, but I’m not surprised by who isn’t placing really.
Well, that's the point. You're in your late 40's and you grew up in the MTV-Amnesty International era. Where are:
- Dire Straits
- REM
- U2
- Tears For Fears
- Aerosmith
If you're a bit older than that, where are:
- The Rolling Stones
- The Who. THE FUCKING WHO!!!
- Emerson Lake And Palmer
- Aerosmith
- Jethro Tull
- AC/DC
- Billy Joel
If you're a bit younger than that, where are:
- Pearl Jam
- Soundgarden
- Nirvana
- Mother Love Bone
Some of these bands I really dislike (U2 and REM), some I've had periods of really enjoying and some are in my regular rotation.
But, if you think ANY of them are gonna make my ALL TIME top 25 list then you are high as hell!
Like, most of them are good bands, some even great, but there are 100s of thousands of bands listened to by all the DTFers, and if anything this list shows that only a select few bands are ever 'locks' and we could do this with an added extra 20 list submissions, and get a completely different outcome.
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Charli XCX is on my list, but didn't make it :(
But which list? :)
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I'm not advocating for those bands - most didn't make my list either - but it's like someone said, it's a sheer numbers game. Nirvana changed the game for SOMEONE, even if it wasn't me. I just thought SOMEONE had to like these bands.
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Well, that's the point. You're in your late 40's and you grew up in the MTV-Amnesty International era. Where are:
- Dire Straits
- REM
- U2
- Tears For Fears
- Aerosmith
If you're a bit older than that, where are:
- The Rolling Stones
- The Who. THE FUCKING WHO!!!
- Emerson Lake And Palmer
- Aerosmith
- Jethro Tull
- AC/DC
- Billy Joel
If you're a bit younger than that, where are:
- Pearl Jam
- Soundgarden
- Nirvana
- Mother Love Bone
Well, since you've opened the can, the two bolded are the ones to whom I was referring this weekend. I didn't think The Rolling Stones would make it, but figured The Who would have enough fans and make enough lists to make it. The fact that they didn't is shocking.
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Well, that's the point. You're in your late 40's and you grew up in the MTV-Amnesty International era. Where are:
- Dire Straits
- REM
- U2
- Tears For Fears
- Aerosmith
If you're a bit older than that, where are:
- The Rolling Stones
- The Who. THE FUCKING WHO!!!
- Emerson Lake And Palmer
- Aerosmith
- Jethro Tull
- AC/DC
- Billy Joel
If you're a bit younger than that, where are:
- Pearl Jam
- Soundgarden
- Nirvana
- Mother Love Bone
Well, since you've opened the can, the two bolded are the ones to whom I was referring this weekend. I didn't think The Rolling Stones would make it, but figured The Who would have enough fans and make enough lists to make it. The fact that they didn't is shocking.
I didn't make a list, but neither would have made mine if I did.
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I don't see much discussion of The Who around here. Even though they are somewhat prog adjacent I just didn't see them as likely to be on the list. The Stones are probably just too far afield from prog and metal to hold much interest to this group. I own two The Who albums and none by the Stones.
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Well, that's the point. You're in your late 40's and you grew up in the MTV-Amnesty International era. Where are:
- Dire Straits
- REM
- U2
- Tears For Fears
- Aerosmith
If you're a bit older than that, where are:
- The Rolling Stones
- The Who. THE FUCKING WHO!!!
- Emerson Lake And Palmer
- Aerosmith
- Jethro Tull
- AC/DC
- Billy Joel
If you're a bit younger than that, where are:
- Pearl Jam
- Soundgarden
- Nirvana
- Mother Love Bone
Well, since you've opened the can, the two bolded are the ones to whom I was referring this weekend. I didn't think The Rolling Stones would make it, but figured The Who would have enough fans and make enough lists to make it. The fact that they didn't is shocking.
Would you believe I didn't think you were referring to the Stones, but rather to Slipknot since Joey Jordison died a couple years ago? :lol :facepalm:
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I thought he was talking about Foo Fighters.
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No Bowie :huh:
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No Bowie :huh:
I noticed this board doesn’t seem to have many Bowie fans. Very disturbing indeed. ;)
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Metallica were my #2 pick and as far as I am concerned are THE quintessential metal band. This band for the longest time were everything to me. When we talk about favourite bands, bands that grabbed your attention and had you obsessing over and listening to non stop, then Metallica is that for me. They are my musical ground zero. The band that made me realise the power music could have, they were the first band that were truly mine, and one that basically helped my see my true destiny was that of a filthy metal head.
I mentioned previously that my older brother used to play loads of death/thrash metal in the early 90s. I was exposed to it all but didn't really give a shit about any of it. I do remember my brother playing The Black Album a ton though, especially songs like Sad But True (he used to taunt me with it, singing "Luke, you know you're sad but truuuuueeeewwwweweeewwwwww" :lol ) and Wherever I May Roam. These songs sunk in subconsciously, but weren't unlocked until later on.
At around 17, I started getting into hip hop and rap, like Eminem and Dr Dre, stuff like that. That was the core of my listening through like 17 and into 18. I started my first full time job at 18 and used to work with a guy who was like 10 years older than me, and he used to bring different hip hop CDs into work everyday, stuff like Cypress Hill, Dialated Peoples etc. One day he brought in The Black Album and my unexpecting ears were changed forever.
He pressed play and at this point I hadn't heard the album in full for probably close to 10 years. As each song hit (I didn't actually know album it was) I started nodding my head thinking "I know all these songs, who is this?". I asked him to spin it a few more times that day, and he let me borrow it at the end of the day. Well I spun that album front to back all damn week. By the Saturday I was faced with a musical crossroads of sorts. I remember being stood in HMV with two CDs in my hands. I could only afford one. One was The Black Album, and the other was Stoned Raiders by Cypress Hill (an album I'd wanted for ages). This was truly the moment my musical trajectory changed and my metal head soul shone through. I can picture that moment now.
I obviously picked Metallica and never looked back. From that point on I basically listened to Metallica and nothing else for like 6 months straight. My older brother suggested I pick up Ride the Lightning next, which I did.
Remember back in the day when you really spend time with an album and absorb it all? That's what I did with these two. I wasn't ready to move onto other albums, these two gave me everything I needed and more. It was everything I ever searched for, in musical form. Around this time Kerrang magazine put out a Legends special edition featuring Metallica and their history. I read it all so many times, and familiarised myself with the bands history, albums and influences. I still wasn't ready to listen to anything other than Metallica and meticulously planned when I would buy the rest of the catalogue, and in which order. FYI, it went Master > Justice > Kill > Load > Reload.
By the time I'd pored over these records I was the biggest fanboy and preached to anyone who wanted to hear (and plenty who didn't) about the bands prowess. This kinda coincided with the release of St Anger by this point. Even that wasn't enough to quell the fire I had.
The last moments that sealed the deal for me (which came before St Anger actually) were 1) Picking up Garage Inc (on cassette!) at a car boot. It was just before going on holiday to Scotland for a week. We drove up there and did a lot of driving around whilst we were there. For that whole week all I listened to was Garage Inc. It set in motion me checking out all the bands covered and broadening my metal credentials. Bands like Motorhead, Diamond Head, Mercyful Fate, Misfits, Discharge etc. I wanted to immerse myself in thos world of metal and learn about the different eras and sub genres.
2) Around the same time I also picked up S&M Live. It remains my all time favourite live album and gave an even further appreciation of what the band was capable of.
I branched out into thrash, then melodeath and the American metalcore bands that were popular in the mid noughties, but it all comes back to Metallica. It's only in the last 5 or 6 years that I would say they were replaced by Coheed as my favourite band. I didn't want to let go of them being my favourite band as it had become kinda defining for me.
They mean everything to me, and although they have some albums I'm less enthralled with, at their best they are untouchable. For me, literally no band comes even remotely close to Metallica's first 5 albums. They were genre defining, they went on to define metal in the mainstream and inspired more new metal heads than any other band. I don't think I've ever heard of an album discussed as a catalyst to becoming a metal fan, more than The Black Album. It continues to convert young minds to this day.
I will listen to Metallica for the rest of my life, there is now doubt there. I have always said that at my funeral I want the big three Metallica instrumentals played, and I don't think I'll ever change that, so I guess I'll be listening to them even after I die.
NR:
Miles Davis
Symphony X
Agalloch
King Crimson
Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Evergrey
UFO
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Nightwish
Katatonia
Helloween
Between the Buried and Me
Anathema
Radiohead
Big Big Train
Peter Gabriel
Riverside
KISS
Ayreon
Spock's Beard
Neal Morse
Pain of Salvation
Queen
Tool
Black Sabbath
Transatlantic
Marillion
Yes
Van Halen
Steven Wilson
Fates Warning
Haken
Queensyche
Genesis
Pink Floyd
Porcupine Tree
25. Avenged Sevenfold (Favourite Album: City of Evil. Favourite Song: Cosmic)
24.
23. Devin Townsend (Favourite Album: Really hard to pick, but today I'll say Terria. Favourite Song: Kingdom or Deep Peace)
22. Led Zeppelin (Favourite Album: Led Zeppelin I. Favourite Song: Babe I'm Gonna Leave You)
21.
20.
19.
18. The Beatles (Favourite Album: Abbey Road. Favourite Song: Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End)
17.
16.
15.
14.
13.
12.
11. The Dear Hunter (Favourite Album: Act IV: Rebirth in Reprise. Favourite Song: Home/A Night on the Town)
10.
9. Megadeth (Favourite Album: Rust in Peace. Favourite Song: Washington is Next!)
8. Mastodon (Favourite Album: Blood Mountain. Favourite Song: Too many to choose, but currently Gigantium)
7.
6. Opeth (Favourite Album: Ghost Reveries. Favourite Song: )
5.
4.
3.
2. Metallica (Favourite Album: Ride the Lightning. Favourite Song: The Call of Ktulu (S&M Version))
1. Coheed and Cambria (Favourite Album: Good Apollo I’m Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness. Favourite Song: Willing Well Suite)
I thought he was talking about Foo Fighters.
I actually did too :lol
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Awesome writeup, Luke!
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Awesome writeup, Luke!
Couldn't miss the opportunity to gush over the band! Don't want to risk the conversation turning back to Porcupine Tree.
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Or Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains. More just interesting that there’s a whole decade that kind of got skipped. DT were kind of the anti-grunge (or anti-alt rock) band for a lot of people here I imagine. I remember feeling that way when I first got into them, even though I grew up liking all of those bands.
Radiohead and Tool are the artsiest/proggiest of the huge 90s bands, so that makes sense. There's a ton of other artists on the ranking with notable early output in the 90s, but they're on the somewhat more obscure side as far as the average person goes. The 00s are basically not represented at all in terms of artists the average person might be aware of, other than possibly A7X, who still aren't nearly as popular.
Anyone doing worse than me? 3 entries so far and none higher than 33. Although one of the final 3 is a lock.
I'm going to end up with 0 in the top 10, 1 in the top 20, and three more in the top 50. Why are we on this forum? :neverusethis:
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I'm not advocating for those bands - most didn't make my list either - but it's like someone said, it's a sheer numbers game. Nirvana changed the game for SOMEONE, even if it wasn't me. I just thought SOMEONE had to like these bands.
Elvis, Michael Jackson, Elton John, Madonna, Rihanna, Eminem, Mariah Carey, Taylor Swift, Beyonce, the Eagles, etc. Monstrously popular artists, just not as much on DTF. Elton John is even a bit proggy at times (and DT has covered him). Taylor is somehow popular everywhere, including here, and yet wasn't on the list.
Some of the bigger snubs I don't recall seeing mentioned yet: Alter Bridge, Animals As Leaders, Avantasia, Blind Guardian, Dio, Guns n Roses, Journey, Kamelot, Leprous, Meshuggah, Ozzy Osbourne, Periphery, Rainbow, Redemption, Savatage, Styx, TesseracT, The Mars Volta.
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1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. The Beatles
4. Probably not
5. Nope
6. LOCK
7. Metallica
8. Led Zeppelin
9. Van Halen
10. Nope
11. Mastodon
12. Spock's Beard
13. Nope
14. Nope
15. Between the Buried and Me
16. Nope
17. Avenged Sevenfold
18. Opeth
19. Nope
20. Tool
21. Coheed & Cambria
22. Pink Floyd
23. Absolutely nope
24. Nope
25. Megadeth
31. Kiss
34. Queen
38. Transatlantic
47. Genesis
79. Black Sabbath
85. Yes
86. Porcupine Tree
92. Fates Warning
My LOCK prediction count: 6/9 - It's a lock at this point.
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Luke,
For what it's worth, your post is so freaking inspiring!
I know I've shared this sentiment before, but I sincerely appreciate the passion with which you write and share...it's infectious.
And while the details are different, I very much resonate with the essence of your story...with that 'watershed' moment where everything clicks and a band suddenly becomes 'yours,' and yours alone.
Good stuff, my friend :metal
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Metallica are great, and my favorite power metal band of all time.
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No Bowie :huh:
I didn't expect him to make it, as I remember threads on him not getting much activity (or only a few people really participating). Bummer, for sure.
I'm not advocating for those bands - most didn't make my list either - but it's like someone said, it's a sheer numbers game. Nirvana changed the game for SOMEONE, even if it wasn't me. I just thought SOMEONE had to like these bands.
Elvis, Michael Jackson, Elton John, Madonna, Rihanna, Eminem, Mariah Carey, Taylor Swift, Beyonce, the Eagles, etc. Monstrously popular artists, just not as much on DTF. Elton John is even a bit proggy at times (and DT has covered him). Taylor is somehow popular everywhere, including here, and yet wasn't on the list.
Some of the bigger snubs I don't recall seeing mentioned yet: Alter Bridge, Animals As Leaders, Avantasia, Blind Guardian, Dio, Guns n Roses, Journey, Kamelot, Leprous, Meshuggah, Ozzy Osbourne, Periphery, Rainbow, Redemption, Savatage, Styx, TesseracT, The Mars Volta.
I'll be curious to see if she would have squeezed into the top 50 had I submitted a list. Not sure who else would have put here in their top 25.
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Metallica are great, and my favorite power metal band of all time.
Da fuq??
@ Luke. Amazing post my dude. Love how you articulated all of that. I'm sure many (all?) of us have *that* band, and/or *that* moment. Led Zeppelin for me, but I just didn't take the time to write it up as beautifully as you did. :tup
It was one of the bands Litho mentioned, but I'm very stunned that Avantasia didn't make Top 50 when I see some of the bands that did. I would've expected a handful of people to rate them, and a few to put them Top 10. But alas, it was not to be. I can't wait to see the full list, and see how many bands were within 20ish points of the #50 spot, and thus just one or two more people voting might have put them in and bumped a band in the high 40s. Hef and Chef... I'm looking at you two.
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Metallica are great, and my favorite power metal band of all time.
Wait, what?
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If Porcupine Tree can be progressive metal, then Metallica can be power metal, right? :lol :lol
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Metallica are great, and my favorite power metal band of all time.
Wait, what?
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https://rateyourmusic.com/release/additional/metallica/power-metal/
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Metallica are great, and my favorite power metal band of all time.
Wait, what?
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https://rateyourmusic.com/release/additional/metallica/power-metal/
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@ Luke. Amazing post my dude. Love how you articulated all of that. I'm sure many (all?) of us have *that* band, and/or *that* moment. Led Zeppelin for me, but I just didn't take the time to write it up as beautifully as you did. :tup
Luke,
For what it's worth, your post is so freaking inspiring!
I know I've shared this sentiment before, but I sincerely appreciate the passion with which you write and share...it's infectious.
And while the details are different, I very much resonate with the essence of your story...with that 'watershed' moment where everything clicks and a band suddenly becomes 'yours,' and yours alone.
Good stuff, my friend :metal
Thanks guys :heart
I never feel confident in my ability to write interesting write ups for my roulettes, but it's good to hear some stuff I write is interesting :lol
I guess my roulette submissions need to be better for me to write more interesting write ups!
Metallica for life!!
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Run for your life, run for number 3
03. Iron Maiden
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Monthly Spotify Streams: 7,785,631
Highest Finish: 1 (wolfking)
Number of top 10 finishes: 17
Number of Lists appeared on: 28 (coz, Dream Team, DTwwbwMP, jingle.boy, pg1067, Stadler, TAC, wolfking, devieira73, Dave_Manchester, Zydar, King Puppies and the Acid Guppies, PMSummer, Trav86, soupytwist, nobloodyname, Pappy, Fonzie, Setlist Scotty, CharlesPL, Lethean, WardySI, SomeoneLikeHim, Evermind, bosk1, Zoom E, MustActFastToCoverUp, nick_z)
Not surprised by the amount of people that voted and the placement. Little bit surprised it only got one #1 ranking. Personally I've tried many, many times with Iron Maiden and could never get into them. There are songs I like but nother beyond that. I'm looking forward to reading everyone elses thoughts on IM.
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I had them at #13. My first foray into heavy metal were with Iron Maiden, and they're still my favourite metal band (not counting DT).
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Catching up...
25. Nightwish
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23.
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20. Tool
19. Between The Buried And Me
18. Peter Gabriel
17.
16. Led Zeppelin
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12. Iron Maiden
11. Metallica
10.
9. Godspeed You Black Emperor
8. The Beatles
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2. Genesis
1. Pink Floyd
Some comments:
Pink Floyd have been my #1 band since I was a teenager, and I don't see that changing any time in the future. Their music is just too important to me and too linked to so many of my life experiences, and because of how diverse it is (running the gamut from Bike to Atom Heart Mother to A Pillow of Winds to Money to Shine On to The Trial to Sorrow) there's never been a period when I haven't been listening to some iteration of the band.
Genesis were vying for my #2 spot with my #3 band, and ultimately won, because their music makes me smile, always. There's a positive, playful energy to almost all of it, and their greatest songs are some of the finest compositions ever written (The Musical Box, The Cinema Show, Firth of Fifth, Supper's Ready, One for the Vine, Home by the Sea, Driving The Last Spike...)
Zep and The Beatles have been present in my life for decades and are two of those comfort bands who are always around me. The creativity of the Beatles was extraordinary and what they accomplished before the age of 30 will almost certainly never happen again.
Metallica made my list on the strength of Ride through Justice, which are incredible albums. Not much of what they've done since the 90s has moved me much. Last year Kirk Hammett put out a solo EP called Portals (a fun mix of almost 'progressive' metal, Hammer Horror soundtracks and Ennio Morricone), and even though his current technical limitations as a lead player are on display, to my ears there is more genuine musical passion and inspiration on that short 27-minute release than on anything Metallica have done since the high points of Load and Reload. He sounds like he's having the time of his life, whereas I don't get that impression on the last few Metallica albums. Could be wrong of course.
Porcupine Tree (and Steven Wilson) didn't make my list. Wilson would probably have made a top 50 largely on the strength of 3 songs that I number among the most beautiful I've ever heard - The Raven That Refused To Sing, Routine, and the oft-overlooked Song of Unborn (both the demo version and the live versions of which are superior to the studio recording). But on the whole, I find a lot of of his solo work leaves me a bit cold and I agree with a comment Anthony Fantano (Youtube reviewer) made about how it often feels like Wilson isn't so much performing progressive rock as he is showcasing it. Some of his attempts to trace over his influences are a tad too on-the-nose for me (for example on Grace For Drowning, which 'borrows' from King Crimson really quite blatantly).
Porcupine Tree have a couple of albums I like (primarily Deadwing), and Lazarus is a very beautiful song, but they wouldn't have come close to any list, whether top 25, 50 or 100. Their finishing above the likes of The Beatles, Zeppelin and Pink Floyd is - how should I put this diplomatically? - rather surprising, but as has often been said, these lists are all about personal tastes, so it's nice to see the occasional 'shock' (to me) result.
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I had them fairly down on the list - I'm not a fan of the Blaze albums, and they lost me at TFF. I tried to like it (along with TBS and Senjutsu), but those never clicked for me. And don't get me started with No Prayer or FotD! So, with 7 'duds' in their discography, they fell down the list a little. Like Zydar, I dare say that they were my introduction to pure 'metal' - through Run To The Hills, sometime in the mid 80s... though it wasn't until '88 that I grabbed all of their music. Great band, only saw them live once (when DT was opening for them in 2010). Their 80s run is still God-Tier, and some of the best music in my library. Hallowed is a Top 10 song of all time for me. Wasted Years will always put me in a good mood, and give me goosebumps.
25. Queen (23)
24. Van Halen (13)
23. Nada
22. Nope
21. Uh-uh
20. Queensryche (8) <99% certain>
19. Nah
18. No
17. Iron Maiden (3) <Guaranteed>
16. I could be the only one that voted for them
15. I'm definitely the only one that voted for them
14. Pink Floyd (6) <Fo Sho>
13. Evergrey (43)
12. I'm not sure why I even voted for them!
11. Nightwish (40)
10. Me and King only
9. Nope
8. Symphony-X (50)
7. Highly unlikely, and I'm stunned they didn't make the Top 50.
6. Spock's Beard (28)
5. Criminally, no
4. Ayreon (29)
3. Without a doubt
2. Bet my annual salary
1. Led Zeppelin (10) <99% certain>
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That is surprising that Maiden only finished number 1 on one list, but not surprising at all that they finished this high. They would have just missed the cut for me (they'd be in the 26-30 range now for me most likely), but that it is still a massive upgrade for me, given that I really wasn't much of a fan outside of a few songs until late 2021/early 2022. Better late than never!
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Iron Maiden is a band that's always been kind of "bubbling under" for me. I like a good chunk of what I've heard, but stylistically they just aren't a band I really want to do a deep dive into. They didn't make my list, but they have my respect.
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Glad to see the Irons up there, in my opinion the greatest heavy metal act in my lifetime.
From debut to Seventh Son they managed to produce a sequence of seven near perfect albums, each one with its own peculiar sound and mood yet each one coherently contributing to the perfectly cohesive and unmistakable Maiden identity. Also, no one has ever found (especially in the live setting) a better balance between workhorse grit and stage grandeur.
Also also, before DT came up and reset the bar, the most - both technically and songwriting-wise speaking - proficient five piece heavy ensemble out there.
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03. Iron Maiden
Well, of course.
They would have been my number one had I sent the list.
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Glad to see the Irons up there, in my opinion the greatest heavy metal act in my lifetime.
From debut to Seventh Son they managed to produce a sequence of seven near perfect albums, each one with its own peculiar sound and mood yet each one coherently contributing to the perfectly cohesive and unmistakable Maiden identity. Also, no one has ever found (especially in the live setting) a better balance between workhorse grit and stage grandeur.
Also also, before DT came up and reset the bar, the most - both technically and songwriting-wise speaking - proficient five piece heavy ensemble out there.
Agreed - especially to the bolded part.
03. Iron Maiden
Well, of course.
They would have been my number one had I sent the list.
Oh yeah, right - you (and Shmegland) were another pair of the delinquents! :biggrin:
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Guilty as charged. ;D
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I thought he was talking about Foo Fighters.
Why would I refer to the Foo Fighters? :P :P :P :) :) :).
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It set in motion me checking out all the bands covered and broadening my metal credentials. Bands like Motorhead, Diamond Head, Mercyful Fate, Misfits, Discharge etc. I wanted to immerse myself in thos world of metal and learn about the different eras and sub genres.
Love this. Whenever my kid would play me a song from some artist she liked and it was a cover, I would "make" her listen to the originals. She had covers of Fleetwood Mac, Queen, Elton John, and so now, she likes the ORIGINALS too. It's like expanding your vocabulary by reading. Or watching movies.
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Maiden is my #3. Around 88 to 90 I was really obsessed by the band and they were my fave band at the time! I still love them, I think they had some really good albums in the reunion era, but it's a little sad that they never came close to the stratospheric level of quality and high-adrenaline music they achieved with 7th Son and the incredible sequence of albums (and songs) from 80 to 88.
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Well since we know who the remaining 2 are, I'll reveal most of my list:
25 ?
24 Nils Frahm
23 Neutral Milk Hotel
22 Riverside
21 Pink Floyd
20 Darren Korb
19 Sigur rós
18 Nicolas Jaar
17 Gustavo Cerati
16 Talk Talk
15 Portishead
14 Kashiwa Daisuke
13 Burial
12 Fishmans
11 Sufjan Stevens
10 Radiohead
9 Godspeed You! Black Emperor
8 Massive Attack
7 Akira Yamaoka
6 Ulver
5 Steven Wilson
4 Deftones
3 Nine Inch Nails
2 Porcupine Tree
1 Anathema
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Not a Maiden fan at all. Have two brothers who are, so I’ve been exposed to their music but never had any interest in listening to them on my own.
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Steven Wilson
NR Devin Townsend
NR Tool
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Queensryche
NR Porcupine Tree
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Opeth
NR Nightwish
NR Metallica
NR Megadeth
NR Mastodon
NR Katatonia
NR Judas Priest
NR Helloween
NR Haken
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Fates Warning
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
30 Transatlantic (The Whirlwind, Bridge Across Forever, The Absolute Universe)
26 Van Halen (Fair Warning, A Different Kind Of Truth, 1984)
25 Sadly, not a shot
24 Sadly, not a shot
23 Pink Floyd (Wish You Were Here, Dark Side Of The Moon, The Wall)
22 Queen (Queen II; Innuendo; A Kind Of Magic)
21 Given
20 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
19 Probably not; they are a classic, but don't seem to get much love here
18 Sadly, not a shot
17 Sadly, not a shot
16 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
15 Probably not; it's an offshoot of another band here and it won't likely make the grade
14 Sadly, not a shot
13 Sadly, not a shot
12 Neal Morse. (And yes, I lumped.). (Innocence and Danger; The Grand Experiment; TSOAD)
11 Black Sabbath (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sabotage, Heaven and Hell)
10 Sadly, not a shot
9 Iron Maiden (Powerslave, Killers, Senjutsu)
8 Probably not; his more popular (here) incarnation already appeared
7 Given
6 Marillion (Clutching At Straws, Misplaced Childhood, Brave)
5 Yes (Going For The One, Fragile, Close To The Edge)
4 Led Zeppelin (Physical Graffiti, IV, How The West Was Won)
3. Kiss (Rock And Roll Over; Creatures Of The Night; Hotter Than Hell)
2 Genesis (Wind And Wuthering, Duke, The Lamb...]
1 The Beatles (Abbey Road, Sgt. Pepper, Revolver)
Take Luke's post on "Metallica", insert "Iron Maiden" in there, delete "Cyprus Hill" and you have me. Probably ten years earlier. :) I mean, in retrospect, "9" is a little low for me; honestly, I take them for granted a bit now. I don't have any Maiden that "reminds me of that girl in high school!" or that "I shared with my dad!" or anything like that, but they have just always been there, solid as a rock. First rock concert EVER (if you don't count "Sha Na Na" with my parents) was Maiden opening for Priest on the Number of the Beast tour. I missed a bunch of shows in the mid years, but now, I basically go every tour just because it's fun.
I think Maiden is THE quintessential metal act. Most relevant act in heavy rock, but somehow the consensus has fallen on Metallica (even though Maiden has produced TWO double studio records in a row, and in my humble opinion the most recent is one of their best albums of their career). Biggest metal act on the globe, but somehow concensus has Metallica playing stadiums here. Best frontman in rock, but somehow the consensus has fallen on Dio (I saw Dio OPEN for Maiden back in the early 2000's, on the "Give Me 'Ed..." tour). Best metal band, but somehow the consensus has fallen on Priest.
But I know to this day when I sit down and play guitar while watching TV, I'm inevitably playing "Total Eclipse" or "Hallowed Be Thy Name", along with a handful of early Kiss tunes.
5 for 8 I think on "givens".
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Not a Maiden fan at all. Have two brothers who are, so I’ve been exposed to their music but never had any interest in listening to them on my own.
Yeah, I've even had people send them in my roulettes, with not much success :lol
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I think Maiden is THE quintessential metal act. Most relevant act in heavy rock, but somehow the consensus has fallen on Metallica (even though Maiden has produced TWO double studio records in a row, and in my humble opinion the most recent is one of their best albums of their career). Biggest metal act on the globe, but somehow concensus has Metallica playing stadiums here. Best frontman in rock, but somehow the consensus has fallen on Dio (I saw Dio OPEN for Maiden back in the early 2000's, on the "Give Me 'Ed..." tour). Best metal band, but somehow the consensus has fallen on Priest.
Christ... not in the UK it hasn't, not by a long shot.
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22 Symphony X
21 Transatlantic
20
19 Megadeth
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13 YES
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10
9 Marillion
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6 Metallica
5 Genesis
4 Pink Floyd
3 Iron Maiden
2 Avenged Sevenfold
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maiden didn't make my list but they rule, i've seen them live 4 times. can't get enough
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Maiden would not have made my list. I've never been able to get into them. However, I am not shocked in any way that they made the list, and at this position.
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Still at 10
Iron Maiden
Sure.... I can see that they belong up here even though I'm not really a fan.
I like them when I hear them I just don't select to listen to them very often.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Haken, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Queensrÿche, Genesis, Porcupine Tree, Metallica, Iron Maiden
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21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
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19 Steven Wilson (favorite album: The Raven That Refused To Sing, favorite song: The Raven That Refused To Sing)
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
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15 Yes (Favorite album: Close to the Edge, favorite song:Roundabout)
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
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6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
5 Pink Floyd (favorite album: Dark Side of the Moon, favorite song: Wish You Were Here)
4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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Run for your life, run for number 3
03. Iron Maiden
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Spotify Profile (https://open.spotify.com/artist/6mdiAmATAx73kdxrNrnlao?si=Gac3HiqvQoelcXFaCz7MeQ)
Monthly Spotify Streams: 7,785,631
Highest Finish: 1 (wolfking)
Number of top 10 finishes: 17
Number of Lists appeared on: 28 (coz, Dream Team, DTwwbwMP, jingle.boy, pg1067, Stadler, TAC, wolfking, devieira73, Dave_Manchester, Zydar, King Puppies and the Acid Guppies, PMSummer, Trav86, soupytwist, nobloodyname, Pappy, Fonzie, Setlist Scotty, CharlesPL, Lethean, WardySI, SomeoneLikeHim, Evermind, bosk1, Zoom E, MustActFastToCoverUp, nick_z)
Not surprised by the amount of people that voted and the placement. Little bit surprised it only got one #1 ranking. Personally I've tried many, many times with Iron Maiden and could never get into them. There are songs I like but nother beyond that. I'm looking forward to reading everyone elses thoughts on IM.
NR: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Agalloch, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Helloween, Between The Buried And Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Peter Gabriel, Megadeth, Pain Of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed And Cambria, Mastodon, Tool, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Opeth, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Led Zeppelin, Queensryche, Metallica, Iron Maiden
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
27 The Beatles
26 Queen
25 (Leave this band behind)
24 (Interesting but not looking quite good)
23 (Most unlikely)
22 Pink Floyd
21 (Not likely)
20 Riverside
19 (Most likely not)
18 (Unlikely)
17 (Unfortunately not lucky enough)
16 (Pretty sure they won't make it)
15 (Only if hell freezes over)
14 Steven Wilson
13 Yes
12 Genesis
11 (This outfit won't make it)
10 Ayreon
09 Haken
08 Porcupine Tree
07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
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04
03 Transatlantic
02 (Totally nother making it)
01 Big Big Train
I really only started diving into IM last year, and I'm still not fully into them yet but I really dug their 80s output from what I listened to. In anticipation of their placement here, I decided to put their albums back on my phone to give them another spin this week. Despite only finally getting into them last year, I painstakingly made an edited version of Live After Death that places all 21 released tracks from that tour into a coherent concert order to create a master-tracklist, so the album now runs at 1:55:35 long with 21 tracks. Early Maiden definitely could have put them on my list if I had discovered them many years ago but since they're a recent discovery for me, they didn't stand a chance.
Knowing who the final two bands will be, it looks like 9 out of my top 10 will have made the list. Did anyone's entire top 10 make it into the countdown? Overall, I'll have had 14 bands from my top 25 in the Countdown's Top 50, which is about what I expected.
-Marc.
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Iron Maiden are not a band I'd ever rate anywhere near a top 50. I have listened to pretty much all their albums, and I can tell you why I'm not a fan.
One of the reasons is Bruce. I never liked his style of vocal and that hasn't changed in the years I've gone back to give them a shot. I've heard their other albums, with different vocalists, and they didn't leave any better impression. The other reason is very much tied into my post yesterday gushing over Metallica.
When I started to explore other metal bands Maiden were obviously one of the big ones to check out. I remember finding a cheap copy of a greatest hits as well Seventh Son at my local library. I gave these a listen and man, I just thought they were so weak compared to Metallica. I know one of the main deal breakers, and a song that was on both of these records, was Can I Play with Madness? Good Lord, I thought this was the cheesiest, lamest shit (still do). I guess these initial judgements and impressions stuck, and I've struggled to get past them. Saying that, I appreciate them way more than I used to.
When I was deep in my Metallica obsession I thought James Hetfield was literally the coolest guy to ever pick up a guitar. I still agree to this day. Yes, Lars and Kirk were also kinda dorky but with a front man like Papa Het, it kinda cancelled them out. I couldn't help but judge Iron Maiden as the really uncool side of metal that wasn't of interest to me.
Growing up I thought Star Wars was the coolest shit in the world and that Star Trek was for the sort of person who wore their t-shirt (usually with a wolf howling at the moon) tucked into their jeans, with white trainers. You know the sort of person I mean. That comparison stuck in my head, Star Wars = cool, Star Trek = lame. I carried that forward and it was my ongoing perception of Metallica fans compared to Maiden fans.
I respect them, and those that do enjoy them, but they do not stoke my fire in any shape or form.
NR:
Miles Davis
Symphony X
Agalloch
King Crimson
Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Evergrey
UFO
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Nightwish
Katatonia
Helloween
Between the Buried and Me
Anathema
Radiohead
Big Big Train
Peter Gabriel
Riverside
KISS
Ayreon
Spock's Beard
Neal Morse
Pain of Salvation
Queen
Tool
Black Sabbath
Transatlantic
Marillion
Yes
Van Halen
Steven Wilson
Fates Warning
Haken
Queensyche
Genesis
Pink Floyd
Porcupine Tree
Iron Maiden
25. Avenged Sevenfold (Favourite Album: City of Evil. Favourite Song: Cosmic)
24.
23. Devin Townsend (Favourite Album: Really hard to pick, but today I'll say Terria. Favourite Song: Kingdom or Deep Peace)
22. Led Zeppelin (Favourite Album: Led Zeppelin I. Favourite Song: Babe I'm Gonna Leave You)
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20.
19.
18. The Beatles (Favourite Album: Abbey Road. Favourite Song: Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End)
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14.
13.
12.
11. The Dear Hunter (Favourite Album: Act IV: Rebirth in Reprise. Favourite Song: Home/A Night on the Town)
10.
9. Megadeth (Favourite Album: Rust in Peace. Favourite Song: Washington is Next!)
8. Mastodon (Favourite Album: Blood Mountain. Favourite Song: Too many to choose, but currently Gigantium)
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6. Opeth (Favourite Album: Ghost Reveries. Favourite Song: )
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4.
3.
2. Metallica (Favourite Album: Ride the Lightning. Favourite Song: The Call of Ktulu (S&M Version))
1. Coheed and Cambria (Favourite Album: Good Apollo I’m Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness. Favourite Song: Willing Well Suite)
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I like Maiden, but not enough to make my list.
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Luke... for as awesome as your Metallica list was, that IM post was just full of fail! :lol
Ironically, CIPWM was a song that I pretty much liked because of the commercial appeal and cheesiness of it - at the time, I was leaning in to Glam Metal, so it was right up my alley.
TASTESTM!!!
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Maiden #3, them and Metallica used to battle for my #1.
19. Megadeth (Rust in Peace)
16. Van Halen (debut)
13. Queensryche (not sure)
12. Black Sabbath (Paranoid)
8. Symphony X (The Odyssey)
7. Scorpions (Blackout)
6. Beatles (Abbey Road)
4. Judas Priest (Stained Class)
3. Iron Maiden (Somewhere in Time)
2. Metallica (Ride the Lightning)
My number 5 is a pretty well-respected band here I think, largely due to the amazing vocals, and might have made the top 50. #23 is an immensely respected deceased metal singer whose solo band I'm sure was in the top 50 as well. A few of the metalheads here I'm sure had some of my other missing choices on their lists, bands with 40+ years of good-to-great albums, one British and one German.
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Luke... for as awesome as your Metallica list was, that IM post was just full of fail! :lol
Ironically, CIPWM was a song that I pretty much liked because of the commercial appeal and cheesiness of it - at the time, I was leaning in to Glam Metal, so it was right up my alley.
TASTESTM!!!
I know dude!
As I was typing it out I was thinking "all those praising yesterday's post are gonna chew me out when they read this!" :lol
I honestly think my first impressions of Iron Maiden were just so heavily influenced by my love and comparison with Metallica that they almost never had a chance. The next bands I got into after Metallica were the thrash bands, like Megadeth, Slayer, Sepultura and Pantera. Those bands were 'dangerous' and were badass in their own way. Maiden were never that to me. Probably the same reason I never got into Priest.
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Another of those bands I was pretty into for awhile, have heard most of their output, enjoy the bulk of it, but just don't listen to them frequently enough to consider them for this list. Their guitar harmony style is pretty influential on a lot of other music I like though, so that was always one of my favorite things about them, as well as Bruce's vocals. As an album Brave New World was the first I heard in full and is still my overall favorite.
Luke not liking Dickinson, you're trying so hard to have completely opposite tastes in vocals to me. ;)
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Luke not liking Dickinson, you're trying so hard to have completely opposite tastes in vocals to me. ;)
I think it's you trying hard to dislike what I like! Dickinson over Sanchez? Ridiculous. I can't remember, what are your thoughts on Devin Townsend and Casey Crescenzo as vocalists?
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Love Devin, Casey does nothing for me, though he becomes more listenable over time the further he's moved from his post-hardcore roots. He's clearly talented, it's just not a style or timbre that's my cup of tea.
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Love Devin, Casey does nothing for me, though he becomes more listenable over time the further he's moved from his post-hardcore roots. He's clearly talented, it's just not a style or timbre that's my cup of tea.
Well at least we can agree on Devin. Casey's vocsls on albums like Acts IV and V are just incredible to me. I really think he has the perfect voice for those songs.
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When I started to explore other metal bands Maiden were obviously one of the big ones to check out. I remember finding a cheap copy of a greatest hits as well Seventh Son at my local library. I gave these a listen and man, I just thought they were so weak compared to Metallica. I know one of the main deal breakers, and a song that was on both of these records, was Can I Play with Madness? Good Lord, I thought this was the cheesiest, lamest shit (still do). I guess these initial judgements and impressions stuck, and I've struggled to get past them. Saying that, I appreciate them way more than I used to.
My concert buddy from high school used to call it "Can I Make A Sandwich". I hear you. Loud and clear. But then... Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son, amirite? :)
When I was deep in my Metallica obsession I thought James Hetfield was literally the coolest guy to ever pick up a guitar. I still agree to this day. Yes, Lars and Kirk were also kinda dorky but with a front man like Papa Het, it kinda cancelled them out. I couldn't help but judge Iron Maiden as the really uncool side of metal that wasn't of interest to me.
But we can have both. I actually agree with you; Hetfield is the MAN, and one of my favorite musicians on the planet, no lie. I just don't like all the music he puts out. I HATED when his vocals sounded like they were coming down a concrete storm drain pipe (I know this, because one of my first jobs was installing concrete drain pipes and we used to yell down them!). When he started to SING is when he elevated into the rarified air. I've long said that one of my three musical Holy Grails is a solo album from Hetfield that let's him tap into the non-thrash side of things.
FYI, what you say regarding the Metallica/Maiden comparison is my Maiden/Priest comparison. Priest is a cartoon compared to Maiden. And not for nothing, but the two most recent Metallica records - coincidentally two of my three favorite Metallica records - are the ones that sound the MOST Maiden-y.
Growing up I thought Star Wars was the coolest shit in the world and that Star Trek was for the sort of person who wore their t-shirt (usually with a wolf howling at the moon) tucked into their jeans, with white trainers. You know the sort of person I mean. That comparison stuck in my head, Star Wars = cool, Star Trek = lame. I carried that forward and it was my ongoing perception of Metallica fans compared to Maiden fans.
Wait... what are "trainers"? Because my "high school uniform" more or less was a t-shirt, jeans and white Converse sneakers. I can't remember if I tucked in the shirt, but that's hitting dangerously close to home, friend!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :)
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25. Judas Priest
24. Iron Maiden
23.
22. Fates Warning
21. Porcupine Tree
20. Opeth
19.
18. Evergrey
17. Katatonia
16. Riverside
15. Helloween
14.
13.
12.
11. Pain of Salvation
10.
9. Steven Wilson
8.
7. Nightwish
6. Haken
5.
4.
3.
2. Pink Floyd
1. Ayreon
Maiden made my list, if barely. Highly respectable band. Was finally going to see them live in June 2022 but that got cancelled, naturally.
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Maiden is one of my favorites but I pretty much only listen to the 80s albums now. As good as the reunion albums are, I really don't they compare to the classic era at all. Somewhere in Time is one of the coolest album covers ever.
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Luke... for as awesome as your Metallica list was, that IM post was just full of fail! :lol
Ironically, CIPWM was a song that I pretty much liked because of the commercial appeal and cheesiness of it - at the time, I was leaning in to Glam Metal, so it was right up my alley.
TASTESTM!!!
I know dude!
As I was typing it out I was thinking "all those praising yesterday's post are gonna chew me out when they read this!" :lol
I honestly think my first impressions of Iron Maiden were just so heavily influenced by my love and comparison with Metallica that they almost never had a chance. The next bands I got into after Metallica were the thrash bands, like Megadeth, Slayer, Sepultura and Pantera. Those bands were 'dangerous' and were badass in their own way. Maiden were never that to me. Probably the same reason I never got into Priest.
See above. Fascinating, because I have the EXACT SAME FEELING, but with the opposite bands!!! Slayer is a joke to me. I literally sing the "Entry of the Gladiators" (you know it as the "circus theme") whenever I hear a Slayer solo. I've already said Priest is too cartoony for me with all the "Metal God!" stuff. Maiden came first for me, so Metallica gets compared to Maiden, not the other way around, and I think that's the difference. Hearing Het "sing" some of the songs from the first couple albums, after hearing Bruce completely SLAY "Hallowed Be Thy Name" live a couple times... it's not even close for me.
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03. Iron Maiden
Maiden was my #4 band - my highest ranked metal band where you don't put some sort of adjective (other than "heavy") in front of metal. My first exposure was the video for Flight of Icarus on MTV (along with the other videos that got some rotation (Beast, Hills, Trooper). Everything about the band impressed me. Along with Geddy Lee, Steve Harris was my biggest inspiration to play bass.
1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. Fates Warning (12) (I'll be very sad if they don't make the list. I'm guessing if they aren't one of the next few picks we won't see them.)
4. Iron Maiden (LOCK)
5. Yes (15) (LOCK)
6. Judas Priest (17) (Slightly better than 50/50)
7. Queensryche (8) (Probably (75%+))
8. At this point, I think there's no chance.
9. See #8
10. No way, eh?
11. Genesis (7) (Probably 90%+)
12. Metallica (4) (LOCK)
13. Helloween (38)
14. UFO (42)
15. Led Zeppelin (10) (I think they're probably a lock, but 17 or higher seems surprising to me)
16. The Beatles (9) (LOCK)
17. At this point, I'm going to say no better than a 20% chance - surprisingly underrated around here
18. See #17
19. Black Sabbath (20)
20. Not a chance
21. I'm probably the only one to submit this artist
22. See #17
23. Probably?
24. Scorpions (46T)
25. See #17
Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeath, Riverside, KISS, Ayreon, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Pain of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed & Cambria, Mastodon, Queen, Tool, Transatlantic, Marillion, Opeth, Van Halen (36), Steven Wilson, Haken, Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree
I'm guessing the top 2 will be backwards from the order I have them.
I think Maiden is THE quintessential metal act. Most relevant act in heavy rock, but somehow the consensus has fallen on Metallica (even though Maiden has produced TWO double studio records in a row, and in my humble opinion the most recent is one of their best albums of their career). Biggest metal act on the globe, but somehow concensus has Metallica playing stadiums here. Best frontman in rock, but somehow the consensus has fallen on Dio (I saw Dio OPEN for Maiden back in the early 2000's, on the "Give Me 'Ed..." tour). Best metal band, but somehow the consensus has fallen on Priest.
Christ... not in the UK it hasn't, not by a long shot.
Yeah...I'm confused about most of this. Bill, what does relevant mean in this context? Metallica is the only band in the discussion for biggest metal band, and that's been the case for a long time. Best frontman is debatable, but it's a different discussion from best lead singer. Obviously, Dio has been dead for more than a decade, so it's an easy choice for Bruce for frontman. As far as singers, I've always thought Halford was the best pure singer, although I went with Dickinson > Dio > Halford when we did the singers countdown. And I don't know any consensus that favors Priest over Maiden as best metal band. As of the early '90s, I'd say they were even, but Maiden rebounded from Dickinson leaving far better/more than Priest did with Halford.
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Metallica is the only band in the discussion for biggest metal band
Agreed.
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9 for 9.
8 for 8.
7 for 7.
6 for 6.
5 for 5.
4 for 4.
I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
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-Genesis
-Haken
-Iron Maiden
-Led Zeppelin
-Metallica
-Pink Floyd
-Porcupine Tree
-Queensryche
R
-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
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Luke... for as awesome as your Metallica list was, that IM post was just full of fail! :lol
Ironically, CIPWM was a song that I pretty much liked because of the commercial appeal and cheesiness of it - at the time, I was leaning in to Glam Metal, so it was right up my alley.
TASTESTM!!!
I know dude!
As I was typing it out I was thinking "all those praising yesterday's post are gonna chew me out when they read this!" :lol
I honestly think my first impressions of Iron Maiden were just so heavily influenced by my love and comparison with Metallica that they almost never had a chance. The next bands I got into after Metallica were the thrash bands, like Megadeth, Slayer, Sepultura and Pantera. Those bands were 'dangerous' and were badass in their own way. Maiden were never that to me. Probably the same reason I never got into Priest.
See above. Fascinating, because I have the EXACT SAME FEELING, but with the opposite bands!!! Slayer is a joke to me. I literally sing the "Entry of the Gladiators" (you know it as the "circus theme") whenever I hear a Slayer solo. I've already said Priest is too cartoony for me with all the "Metal God!" stuff.
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I would say Iron Maiden and Metallica are equally nerdy, but in a tough guy macho way.
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Maiden is metal that can help you ace your history exams! :metal
I'm down with Maiden, but I haven't listened to them long enough to consider them one of my favorites. First time I heard Maiden was in my 11th grade English Lit class, when my teacher played us "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" as we were studying the actual poem. I've known about them since I was a kid thanks to my Dad having all sorts of books about music, concert photography, etc. I've had several band mates over the years that were way into them, so I always knew of Iron Maiden and had heard their songs over the years, but I didn't take the deep dive into the catalog until one of my buddies played me The Book of Souls. Figured I'd finally take a deeper dive into their music, and they finally clicked for me. I'm hoping to see them next summer on their current tour. I figure that they are a band that I have to see live in person before they retire!
:metal :metal
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When I started to explore other metal bands Maiden were obviously one of the big ones to check out. I remember finding a cheap copy of a greatest hits as well Seventh Son at my local library. I gave these a listen and man, I just thought they were so weak compared to Metallica. I know one of the main deal breakers, and a song that was on both of these records, was Can I Play with Madness? Good Lord, I thought this was the cheesiest, lamest shit (still do). I guess these initial judgements and impressions stuck, and I've struggled to get past them. Saying that, I appreciate them way more than I used to.
My concert buddy from high school used to call it "Can I Make A Sandwich". I hear you. Loud and clear. But then... Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son, amirite? :)
When I was deep in my Metallica obsession I thought James Hetfield was literally the coolest guy to ever pick up a guitar. I still agree to this day. Yes, Lars and Kirk were also kinda dorky but with a front man like Papa Het, it kinda cancelled them out. I couldn't help but judge Iron Maiden as the really uncool side of metal that wasn't of interest to me.
But we can have both. I actually agree with you; Hetfield is the MAN, and one of my favorite musicians on the planet, no lie. I just don't like all the music he puts out. I HATED when his vocals sounded like they were coming down a concrete storm drain pipe (I know this, because one of my first jobs was installing concrete drain pipes and we used to yell down them!). When he started to SING is when he elevated into the rarified air. I've long said that one of my three musical Holy Grails is a solo album from Hetfield that let's him tap into the non-thrash side of things.
FYI, what you say regarding the Metallica/Maiden comparison is my Maiden/Priest comparison. Priest is a cartoon compared to Maiden. And not for nothing, but the two most recent Metallica records - coincidentally two of my three favorite Metallica records - are the ones that sound the MOST Maiden-y.
Growing up I thought Star Wars was the coolest shit in the world and that Star Trek was for the sort of person who wore their t-shirt (usually with a wolf howling at the moon) tucked into their jeans, with white trainers. You know the sort of person I mean. That comparison stuck in my head, Star Wars = cool, Star Trek = lame. I carried that forward and it was my ongoing perception of Metallica fans compared to Maiden fans.
Wait... what are "trainers"? Because my "high school uniform" more or less was a t-shirt, jeans and white Converse sneakers. I can't remember if I tucked in the shirt, but that's hitting dangerously close to home, friend!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :)
Stads my man, a bit to reply to.
I do remember you being very vocal about your love of Het, and I agree that a solo album would excite me more than anything Metallica could ever put out nowadays. I kinda know what you mean about his early vocals, but I actually love all eras of his voice.
As to your last question, trainers are what you call sneakers. I'm all about t-shirt, jeans and trainers, but there is a certain way you can wear that combo that is seriously uncool. If the sneaker fits, then unfortunately that's you my man. I'll try and find a Picture...
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twosuitsluke, even though I have become a pretty big fan of Maiden, I am sort with ya on Bruce. He is obviously a great singer, but I like his voice much more than I love it. I didn't even consider him when doing my 25 favorite singers when I ran that countdown.
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Luke... for as awesome as your Metallica list was, that IM post was just full of fail! :lol
Ironically, CIPWM was a song that I pretty much liked because of the commercial appeal and cheesiness of it - at the time, I was leaning in to Glam Metal, so it was right up my alley.
TASTESTM!!!
I know dude!
As I was typing it out I was thinking "all those praising yesterday's post are gonna chew me out when they read this!" :lol
I honestly think my first impressions of Iron Maiden were just so heavily influenced by my love and comparison with Metallica that they almost never had a chance. The next bands I got into after Metallica were the thrash bands, like Megadeth, Slayer, Sepultura and Pantera. Those bands were 'dangerous' and were badass in their own way. Maiden were never that to me. Probably the same reason I never got into Priest.
See above. Fascinating, because I have the EXACT SAME FEELING, but with the opposite bands!!! Slayer is a joke to me. I literally sing the "Entry of the Gladiators" (you know it as the "circus theme") whenever I hear a Slayer solo. I've already said Priest is too cartoony for me with all the "Metal God!" stuff. Maiden came first for me, so Metallica gets compared to Maiden, not the other way around, and I think that's the difference. Hearing Het "sing" some of the songs from the first couple albums, after hearing Bruce completely SLAY "Hallowed Be Thy Name" live a couple times... it's not even close for me.
I can get on board with Kerry King being a bit of a joke, but not Tom and Jeff! They were the real deal.
twosuitsluke, even though I have become a pretty big fan of Maiden, I am sort with ya on Bruce. He is obviously a great singer, but I like his voice much more than I love it. I didn't even consider him when doing my 25 favorite singers when I ran that countdown.
Oh yea Kev, I don't consider him a bad singer, and understand why people love him, he's just not for me. I can't think of a singer I like that is closest in sound to Bruce, but there will be one.
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twosuitsluke, even though I have become a pretty big fan of Maiden, I am sort with ya on Bruce. He is obviously a great singer, but I like his voice much more than I love it. I didn't even consider him when doing my 25 favorite singers when I ran that countdown.
20th Century Bruce is great. 21st Century Bruce ... not so much. His output nowadays is much like JLB - his best years are definitely far behind him, and his voice is a shell of what it used to be. Both make their current output virtually unlistenable for me.
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I think James sounds great on the latest DT studio albums. Bruce's voice maybe sounds a little strained or thin or something not quite definable (by me) but not unlistenable at all.
At least I assume you were referring to studio work.
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I agree with the Chadster and that's why I listen to only 80's Maiden (but again I only listen to 70's,80's early 90's rock/metal regardless, so might not be the best resource)
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More or less between No Prayer and Fear of the Dark, Bruce developed a peculiar raspiness (probably a stylistic choice, because I heard him live in 1993 and voice was immaculate) that rubbed me the wrong way.
Said that, one of the greatest, and I will never hold age and relative deterioration against a singer until someone invents the Singer's Viagra.
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More or less between No Prayer and Fear of the Dark, Bruce developed a peculiar raspiness (probably a stylistic choice, because I heard him live in 1993 and voice was immaculate) that rubbed me the wrong way.
Said that, one of the greatest, and I will never hold age and relative deterioration against a singer until someone invents the Singer's Viagra.
You want they should start sucking dick? :lol
I try not to either, but when the deterioration results in a quality that is so far below what I would want/expect, I simply choose to listen elsewhere. Pre Astonishing James, I've got no issue. Hell, even the I&W 25th Anniv Tour he was relatively good. Since TBS, Bruce's range has been quite limited. Musically, there's some good stuff there, but vocally, I just keep thinking "why am I not listening to original-era or early reunion era IM?"
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Yeah...I'm confused about most of this. Bill, what does relevant mean in this context? Metallica is the only band in the discussion for biggest metal band, and that's been the case for a long time. Best frontman is debatable, but it's a different discussion from best lead singer. Obviously, Dio has been dead for more than a decade, so it's an easy choice for Bruce for frontman. As far as singers, I've always thought Halford was the best pure singer, although I went with Dickinson > Dio > Halford when we did the singers countdown. And I don't know any consensus that favors Priest over Maiden as best metal band. As of the early '90s, I'd say they were even, but Maiden rebounded from Dickinson leaving far better/more than Priest did with Halford.
Relevant? 6 Grammy wins, double the next closest "competitor". They're the ones that get dragged out when these idiots in the Establishment want to show "cred". Who did Lady Gaga get paired up with at the Grammy's show? Metallica. The only "true" metal bands in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? AC/DC, Black Sabbath, Metallica, and Judas Priest, in that order.
The Dio one is more... subjective I guess, but it seems that following his death, he's been rather highly regarded (and of course, his image cleaned up; we seem to have forgotten that he's fought with virtually every guitar player that's ever been in his bands, from Ritchie Blackmore to Iommi to Campbell to Goldy, and a couple of bass players and drummers too - Powell and Bain for two).
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twosuitsluke, even though I have become a pretty big fan of Maiden, I am sort with ya on Bruce. He is obviously a great singer, but I like his voice much more than I love it. I didn't even consider him when doing my 25 favorite singers when I ran that countdown.
20th Century Bruce is great. 21st Century Bruce ... not so much. His output nowadays is much like JLB - his best years are definitely far behind him, and his voice is a shell of what it used to be. Both make their current output virtually unlistenable for me.
WUT???
What output are you listening to to make this judgement? Senjutsu? Bruce is great on it. His voice is not a "shell" of what it once was.
I'll give you that the vocal track for the Mexico City live album is pretty bad, but I've watched a lot of clips from that tour, the current tour, and I'm not thinking Jesus this guy blows.
I think we tend to romanticize classic or early periods. Reunion Era Maiden and Reunion era Bruce have been amazing.
... but when the deterioration results in a quality that is so far below what I would want/expect, I simply choose to listen elsewhere. Pre Astonishing James, I've got no issue. Hell, even the I&W 25th Anniv Tour he was relatively good. Since TBS, Bruce's range has been quite limited. Musically, there's some good stuff there, but vocally, I just keep thinking "why am I not listening to original-era or early reunion era IM?"
Again, you don't think Bruce sounds not very good on Senjutsu? That's the only album they've released since The Book Of Souls.
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More or less between No Prayer and Fear of the Dark, Bruce developed a peculiar raspiness (probably a stylistic choice, because I heard him live in 1993 and voice was immaculate) that rubbed me the wrong way.
Said that, one of the greatest, and I will never hold age and relative deterioration against a singer until someone invents the Singer's Viagra.
You want they should start sucking dick? :lol
I try not to either, but when the deterioration results in a quality that is so far below what I would want/expect, I simply choose to listen elsewhere. Pre Astonishing James, I've got no issue. Hell, even the I&W 25th Anniv Tour he was relatively good. Since TBS, Bruce's range has been quite limited. Musically, there's some good stuff there, but vocally, I just keep thinking "why am I not listening to original-era or early reunion era IM?"
That's perfectly reasonable.
What really irks me - and I'm not pointing fingers at anybody here and maybe I'm going into a too personal tangent - is the way peformance degradation is reacted to by fandoms. I understand the general profound ignorance about the vocal apparatus and its workings, I understand buyer's disappointment, I can even understand the temptation to kick people when they're down. But please - again, not to anyone in particular, I'm shouting at the world now - criticism should be kept inside respectful terms, and acknowledging that a singer losing his/her instrument is a person who is watching his/her decades old identity and sense of self-worth crumbling before their eyes, day after day, while trying to entertain people, while trying to keep up with friends whose instruments are made in Taiwan, not in the womb. It's hell for the soul, and the least we could do is trying to remember it before choosing adjectives.
Sorry for the rant, I'll go back to clown mode.
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Yeah...I'm confused about most of this. Bill, what does relevant mean in this context? Metallica is the only band in the discussion for biggest metal band, and that's been the case for a long time. Best frontman is debatable, but it's a different discussion from best lead singer. Obviously, Dio has been dead for more than a decade, so it's an easy choice for Bruce for frontman. As far as singers, I've always thought Halford was the best pure singer, although I went with Dickinson > Dio > Halford when we did the singers countdown. And I don't know any consensus that favors Priest over Maiden as best metal band. As of the early '90s, I'd say they were even, but Maiden rebounded from Dickinson leaving far better/more than Priest did with Halford.
Relevant? 6 Grammy wins, double the next closest "competitor". They're the ones that get dragged out when these idiots in the Establishment want to show "cred". Who did Lady Gaga get paired up with at the Grammy's show? Metallica. The only "true" metal bands in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? AC/DC, Black Sabbath, Metallica, and Judas Priest, in that order.
I'm still confused.
You wrote: "I think Maiden is THE quintessential metal act. Most relevant act in heavy rock, but somehow the consensus has fallen on Metallica (even though Maiden has produced TWO double studio records in a row, and in my humble opinion the most recent is one of their best albums of their career)."
So...you think Maiden is the "most relevant act in heavy rock"? However, despite your belief that Maiden is "most relevant," the consensus views Metallica as "most relevant"? Relevant to what? Are you just saying that you don't really understand why Maiden isn't as big/popular as Metallica?
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If that is the question, then I'd say the answer is simply that they never released their "Black Album".
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What really irks me - and I'm not pointing fingers at anybody here and maybe I'm going into a too personal tangent - is the way peformance degradation is reacted to by fandoms. I understand the general profound ignorance about the vocal apparatus and its workings, I understand buyer's disappointment, I can even understand the temptation to kick people when they're down. But please - again, not to anyone in particular, I'm shouting at the world now - criticism should be kept inside respectful terms, and acknowledging that a singer losing his/her instrument is a person who is watching his/her decades old identity and sense of self-worth crumbling before their eyes, day after day, while trying to entertain people, while trying to keep up with friends whose instruments are made in Taiwan, not in the womb. It's hell for the soul, and the least we could do is trying to remember it before choosing adjectives.
Ok.. how do I want to go about this...
If I pay money to see a singer perform, don't you think he should do his job? I mean, we beat the JLB thing to death in the Dreamsonic thread this summer.
I understand not hitting every note from years ago, but what we got on the Dreamsonic tour was unacceptable. What was most interesting to me was the indifference that emanated from the band, and by band, I mean JP, since he is the supposed leader.
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@ Tim ... TASTESTM!! I simply don't enjoy Bruce's sound nowadays - and I meant to say since (and including) TFF - I remember so little about the last three albums, I can't remember which order they were released!
@ Alex.... no disrespect meant, and I look at (hear) it the same way I would see an aging athlete. I fully recognize that Father Time is undefeated in every battle - degradation of skills is inevitabre. INEVITABRE!! That doesn't mean I'm going to enjoy watching Tom Brady play into his late 40s, or Lebron into his 40s the same way I enjoyed watching him/them in the early 2010s. And it doesn't mean that I'm going to prefer an aging Brady/Lebron to a youthful Mahomes/Joker.
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That last post between Tim and Indiscipline was too much. I just bought a new Rush t-shirt which arrived a few days ago. Lets get to number #2
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I think the problem (and this affects plenty of athletes too, heck, just look at the Clippers) is that so many of them are unable to accept it, and try and carry on as if nothing has changed, when it clearly has. They need to modify the material to accommodate their lower limitations, or write new material tailored to what they can deliver now, not what they could do several decades ago. Robert Plant seems to be a musical example of how to navigate that.
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What really irks me - and I'm not pointing fingers at anybody here and maybe I'm going into a too personal tangent - is the way peformance degradation is reacted to by fandoms. I understand the general profound ignorance about the vocal apparatus and its workings, I understand buyer's disappointment, I can even understand the temptation to kick people when they're down. But please - again, not to anyone in particular, I'm shouting at the world now - criticism should be kept inside respectful terms, and acknowledging that a singer losing his/her instrument is a person who is watching his/her decades old identity and sense of self-worth crumbling before their eyes, day after day, while trying to entertain people, while trying to keep up with friends whose instruments are made in Taiwan, not in the womb. It's hell for the soul, and the least we could do is trying to remember it before choosing adjectives.
Ok.. how do I want to go about this...
If I pay money to see a singer perform, don't you think he should do his job? I mean, we beat the JLB thing to death in the Dreamsonic thread this summer.
I understand not hitting every note from years ago, but what we got on the Dreamsonic tour was unacceptable. What was most interesting to me was the indifference that emanated from the band, and by band, I mean JP, since he is the supposed leader.
Thank you for the specific example, it's perfect to explain my mind. Plus you know me which always help.
Expecting a not unacceptable performance when paying good money is a given, as is a quite pacific right to feel disappointed and to complain if such expectations are not met. The way displeasure is articulated makes all the painful difference to me. Following your example, let's hypotise that:
I know it's anatomically over for James the intensive touring heavy metal singer. Age, usage, strain, demands of repertoire. I know he knows it better than anyone.
I know how he must feel before, during and after enduring a beating bordering on humiliation, with the knowledge it can only get worse.
I know the seemingly indifferent band knows all of the above, maybe it pains them as friends, yet they stick with the boy who has given them the best of his instrument and signed the difference between their debut (going absolutely nowhere) and their masterpiece (global fame and radio play). I know also James must feel even worse because he knows he is holding back people he loves.
I know I'm gonna get 40% chance of disaster, 40% chance of taped chicanery I can see through in a second, 10% chance of an outlier miracle night.
Knowing this, not pretending to not know, absolutely not deluding myself, I still go. Why?
Because I'm a fan and I want to support guys giving me joy for the last 30 years. Will I be displeased? Can't deny it, but I probably will be in pain for James more. Will I complain? Maybe, mainly if asked an opinion, but I can't bring myself to use words adding further humiliation and degradation to what a man (seeing himself going from excellence to inability, i.e. among the worst existential place you can be) must already feel. Even if that man will never read or listen to harsh comments, they create a climate adding difficulty to an already impossible task, a task resembling a punishment. I believe they have earned the right to polite and corteous criticism, at least by me who have taken more than I've given.
Do I secretly feel everybody involved should gracefully make an impossible decision? Yes, and it hurts.
When, and if, I will reach the age of pissing myself not by choice, I'd love my daughter to at least smile and fool me with manners, not forgetting I was the one to put her through college when I was young, potent, and handsome. I know, the difference is the trajectory of money, but when I am a fan I don't give a crap about money. Maybe I'm a romantic, a commie, or probably both.
Not judging anybody, just trying to get across the way I feel.
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More or less between No Prayer and Fear of the Dark, Bruce developed a peculiar raspiness (probably a stylistic choice, because I heard him live in 1993 and voice was immaculate) that rubbed me the wrong way.
Said that, one of the greatest, and I will never hold age and relative deterioration against a singer until someone invents the Singer's Viagra.
You want they should start sucking dick? :lol
I try not to either, but when the deterioration results in a quality that is so far below what I would want/expect, I simply choose to listen elsewhere. Pre Astonishing James, I've got no issue. Hell, even the I&W 25th Anniv Tour he was relatively good. Since TBS, Bruce's range has been quite limited. Musically, there's some good stuff there, but vocally, I just keep thinking "why am I not listening to original-era or early reunion era IM?"
Well, not making excuses because I don't see a problem with his vocals live, but if you notice a difference from TBS on, it could possibly be the aftermath of his throat cancer. I'm pretty sure he sang TBS right before his diagnosis. I know the tour and what not was pushed off to allow him to get treatment.
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I think the problem (and this affects plenty of athletes too, heck, just look at the Clippers) is that so many of them are unable to accept it, and try and carry on as if nothing has changed, when it clearly has. They need to modify the material to accommodate their lower limitations, or write new material tailored to what they can deliver now, not what they could do several decades ago. Robert Plant seems to be a musical example of how to navigate that.
Robert was always able to pace himself, and I really appreciate his wisdom in that fact. Even in his prime, he never tried to sing Black Dog as recorded every night of an 8 month tour. And we all know that if he had tried, he probably would’ve permanently damaged his voice before LZ ever broke up. He would occasionally hit the big high note when the song emotionally needed it, but he kept those super high shrieks to an absolute minimum per night thing in order to spare himself.
For JLB it might be too late. But I think he should have been playing with alternative lower harmony ideas from the beginning so he wasn’t trying to sing in the stratosphere for over half of an entire 3-hour show. No human being can maintain that. Even opera singers don’t sing non stop at the limits of their range for an entire show. It’s unsustainable
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What really irks me - and I'm not pointing fingers at anybody here and maybe I'm going into a too personal tangent - is the way peformance degradation is reacted to by fandoms. I understand the general profound ignorance about the vocal apparatus and its workings, I understand buyer's disappointment, I can even understand the temptation to kick people when they're down. But please - again, not to anyone in particular, I'm shouting at the world now - criticism should be kept inside respectful terms, and acknowledging that a singer losing his/her instrument is a person who is watching his/her decades old identity and sense of self-worth crumbling before their eyes, day after day, while trying to entertain people, while trying to keep up with friends whose instruments are made in Taiwan, not in the womb. It's hell for the soul, and the least we could do is trying to remember it before choosing adjectives.
Ok.. how do I want to go about this...
If I pay money to see a singer perform, don't you think he should do his job? I mean, we beat the JLB thing to death in the Dreamsonic thread this summer.
I understand not hitting every note from years ago, but what we got on the Dreamsonic tour was unacceptable. What was most interesting to me was the indifference that emanated from the band, and by band, I mean JP, since he is the supposed leader.
Thank you for the specific example, it's perfect to explain my mind. Plus you know me which always help.
Expecting a not unacceptable performance when paying good money is a given, as is a quite pacific right to feel disappointed and to complain if such expectations are not met. The way displeasure is articulated makes all the painful difference to me. Following your example, let's hypotise that:
I know it's anatomically over for James the intensive touring heavy metal singer. Age, usage, strain, demands of repertoire. I know he knows it better than anyone.
I know how he must feel before, during and after enduring a beating bordering on humiliation, with the knowledge it can only get worse.
I know the seemingly indifferent band knows all of the above, maybe it pains them as friends, yet they stick with the boy who has given them the best of his instrument and signed the difference between their debut (going absolutely nowhere) and their masterpiece (global fame and radio play). I know also James must feel even worse because he knows he is holding back people he loves.
I know I'm gonna get 40% chance of disaster, 40% chance of taped chicanery I can see through in a second, 10% chance of an outlier miracle night.
Knowing this, not pretending to not know, absolutely not deluding myself, I still go. Why?
Because I'm a fan and I want to support guys giving me joy for the last 30 years. Will I be displeased? Can't deny it, but I probably will be in pain for James more. Will I complain? Maybe, mainly if asked an opinion, but I can't bring myself to use words adding further humiliation and degradation to what a man (seeing himself going from excellence to inability, i.e. among the worst existential place you can be) must already feel. Even if that man will never read or listen to harsh comments, they create a climate adding difficulty to an already impossible task, a task resembling a punishment. I believe they have earned the right to polite and corteous criticism, at least by me who have taken more than I've given.
Do I secretly feel everybody involved should gracefully make an impossible decision? Yes, and it hurts.
When, and if, I will reach the age of pissing myself not by choice, I'd love my daughter to at least smile and fool me with manners, not forgetting I was the one to put her through college when I was young, potent, and handsome. I know, the difference is the trajectory of money, but when I am a fan I don't give a crap about money. Maybe I'm a romantic, a commie, or probably both.
Not judging anybody, just trying to get across the way I feel.
Alessandro, I appreciate your POV. I wish you were around during the summer to add some levity to the Dreamsonic Thread.
To me, it wasn't James' performance that was startling...I mean it was..but it was the band's perceived indifference to it. I have not been able to come up with a good reason for it. I know MP was up front about the band sitting James down after the 6 D's tour. Has anything like that happened recently? Oddly, MP did what he could to protect James, removing the second verse in TTT, and having instrumentals in the setlist. Conversely, JP hung James out to dry, on a night to night basis by not making adjustments that were clear from the jump, but also forcing another tour on James, who clearly wasn't up for it.
I saw DT 4 times on the I&W tour and twice on the Awake tour, and I said this back then...that the singer in this band would always be the red headed stepchild.
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What really irks me - and I'm not pointing fingers at anybody here and maybe I'm going into a too personal tangent - is the way peformance degradation is reacted to by fandoms. I understand the general profound ignorance about the vocal apparatus and its workings, I understand buyer's disappointment, I can even understand the temptation to kick people when they're down. But please - again, not to anyone in particular, I'm shouting at the world now - criticism should be kept inside respectful terms, and acknowledging that a singer losing his/her instrument is a person who is watching his/her decades old identity and sense of self-worth crumbling before their eyes, day after day, while trying to entertain people, while trying to keep up with friends whose instruments are made in Taiwan, not in the womb. It's hell for the soul, and the least we could do is trying to remember it before choosing adjectives.
Ok.. how do I want to go about this...
If I pay money to see a singer perform, don't you think he should do his job? I mean, we beat the JLB thing to death in the Dreamsonic thread this summer.
I understand not hitting every note from years ago, but what we got on the Dreamsonic tour was unacceptable. What was most interesting to me was the indifference that emanated from the band, and by band, I mean JP, since he is the supposed leader.
Thank you for the specific example, it's perfect to explain my mind. Plus you know me which always help.
Expecting a not unacceptable performance when paying good money is a given, as is a quite pacific right to feel disappointed and to complain if such expectations are not met. The way displeasure is articulated makes all the painful difference to me. Following your example, let's hypotise that:
I know it's anatomically over for James the intensive touring heavy metal singer. Age, usage, strain, demands of repertoire. I know he knows it better than anyone.
I know how he must feel before, during and after enduring a beating bordering on humiliation, with the knowledge it can only get worse.
I know the seemingly indifferent band knows all of the above, maybe it pains them as friends, yet they stick with the boy who has given them the best of his instrument and signed the difference between their debut (going absolutely nowhere) and their masterpiece (global fame and radio play). I know also James must feel even worse because he knows he is holding back people he loves.
I know I'm gonna get 40% chance of disaster, 40% chance of taped chicanery I can see through in a second, 10% chance of an outlier miracle night.
Knowing this, not pretending to not know, absolutely not deluding myself, I still go. Why?
Because I'm a fan and I want to support guys giving me joy for the last 30 years. Will I be displeased? Can't deny it, but I probably will be in pain for James more. Will I complain? Maybe, mainly if asked an opinion, but I can't bring myself to use words adding further humiliation and degradation to what a man (seeing himself going from excellence to inability, i.e. among the worst existential place you can be) must already feel. Even if that man will never read or listen to harsh comments, they create a climate adding difficulty to an already impossible task, a task resembling a punishment. I believe they have earned the right to polite and corteous criticism, at least by me who have taken more than I've given.
Do I secretly feel everybody involved should gracefully make an impossible decision? Yes, and it hurts.
When, and if, I will reach the age of pissing myself not by choice, I'd love my daughter to at least smile and fool me with manners, not forgetting I was the one to put her through college when I was young, potent, and handsome. I know, the difference is the trajectory of money, but when I am a fan I don't give a crap about money. Maybe I'm a romantic, a commie, or probably both.
Not judging anybody, just trying to get across the way I feel.
I'm mostly on the same page as you, and am pretty forgiving of singers having trouble as they age.
I'd also say that I don't think it's as big of an issue as some make it out to be. I think the majority of people at the shows in person, myself included, still enjoy James/Bruce/Geddy Lee/whoever else. I thoroughly enjoyed the dreamsonic shows, including James; I thoroughly the last Rush show, and Bruce the last time I saw him. I know there's evidence of all 3 of them sounding bad. But if the majority of people at the actual show are saying "wow, that rocked," then I don't blame the bands so much for being indifferent (if they actually are).
If any of those bands have the difficult discussion of "when do we call it quits" or " how can we rearrange some melodies" or "hey I know you're not going to sound like you did 20 years ago, but do you think you can make some improvements..." - sure, they probably should try at least to mitigate it. But I'd never want them to replace the singers. They've been the voice of their band and should go out that way imo.
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Not surprised by the amount of people that voted and the placement. Little bit surprised it only got one #1 ranking. Personally I've tried many, many times with Iron Maiden and could never get into them. There are songs I like but nother beyond that. I'm looking forward to reading everyone elses thoughts on IM.
Don't know why, but I'm a little surprised I'm the only one that had them in the top spot.
Their status at number of my list will never ever be in jeopardy. There was no thinking about it, my list was coming up with 2-25. First place was always sorted.
Getting into metal as a young 13-14 year old I started with the punk and rock scene of the time and then started with Metallica, and even some Pantera and whatever else was mainstream at the time, Korn and the likes. Seeing the video clip of Aces High on late night music tv simply changed my life. Seeing that video and these guys with the hair, the spandex, Bruce with his swagger and confidence, the legs up on the foldbacks, the solos, everything about it opened up a whole new world to me. Never looked back.
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twosuitsluke, even though I have become a pretty big fan of Maiden, I am sort with ya on Bruce. He is obviously a great singer, but I like his voice much more than I love it. I didn't even consider him when doing my 25 favorite singers when I ran that countdown.
20th Century Bruce is great. 21st Century Bruce ... not so much. His output nowadays is much like JLB - his best years are definitely far behind him, and his voice is a shell of what it used to be. Both make their current output virtually unlistenable for me.
Oof! Bruce being able to perform how he does still in the original keys is beyond impressive. I can't see the comparisons with recent JLB at all.
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I agree with the Chadster and that's why I listen to only 80's Maiden (but again I only listen to 70's,80's early 90's rock/metal regardless, so might not be the best resource)
Dude, the reunion albums rival the golden era run IMO. It's all quality.
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I'll also say, I think Bruce sounds better on more recent releases like En Vivo, RIR and Flight 666 as opposed to LAD and Maiden England.
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I agree with the Chadster and that's why I listen to only 80's Maiden (but again I only listen to 70's,80's early 90's rock/metal regardless, so might not be the best resource)
Dude, the reunion albums rival the golden era run IMO. It's all quality.
Yes!
I'll also say, I think Bruce sounds better on more recent releases like En Vivo, RIR and Flight 666 as opposed to LAD and Maiden England.
Yes!
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Not surprised by the amount of people that voted and the placement. Little bit surprised it only got one #1 ranking.
Don't know why, but I'm a little surprised I'm the only one that had them in the top spot.
My three favorite bands are UFO, Dream Theater, and Iron Maiden. I typically refer to them as 1a, 1b, and 1c.
I had to rank them for this countdown, and I thought I'd give UFO some love, but my Top 3 spots are interchangeable.
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twosuitsluke, even though I have become a pretty big fan of Maiden, I am sort with ya on Bruce. He is obviously a great singer, but I like his voice much more than I love it. I didn't even consider him when doing my 25 favorite singers when I ran that countdown.
20th Century Bruce is great. 21st Century Bruce ... not so much. His output nowadays is much like JLB - his best years are definitely far behind him, and his voice is a shell of what it used to be. Both make their current output virtually unlistenable for me.
Oof! Bruce being able to perform how he does still in the original keys is beyond impressive. I can't see the comparisons with recent JLB at all.
I love JLB but, yes, I don't think there's much of a comparison in terms of live performances these days. Bruce is still doing pretty great, on material that is not forgiving at all :)
I'll also say, I think Bruce sounds better on more recent releases like En Vivo, RIR and Flight 666 as opposed to LAD and Maiden England.
I've said it before - as (rightly) iconic as LAD is, I too think the vocal performance on RiR is better. I mean, I'm sure that the relentless touring they did for Powerslave had taken a toll on Bruce by then, but I wouldn't say his vocals are immaculate on it. Rock In Rio is absolutely amazing that way. To me 1995-2002 (roughly speaking) Bruce was (almost) as good as he'd ever been.
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Not surprised by the amount of people that voted and the placement. Little bit surprised it only got one #1 ranking.
Don't know why, but I'm a little surprised I'm the only one that had them in the top spot.
My three favorite bands are UFO, Dream Theater, and Iron Maiden. I typically refer to them as 1a, 1b, and 1c.
I had to rank them for this countdown, and I thought I'd give UFO some love, but my Top 3 spots are interchangeable.
That's fair. I'd say that about my bands 2, 3 and 4 so I know what you mean haha.
About the reunion albums and what I said. It took me a long time to admit to that. Discovering the golden era albums was like finding a golden ticket in each new chocolate bar at the time, what an experience saving up my $30, going and buying one of the albums, flogging it to death then working for the next one. However, in time, when I want to listen to some Maiden, I'd find myself grabbing BNW, AMOLAD or TFF more than PS, SIT or POM. I had to admit one day that the run of reunion albums is at least on a par with the classics.
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twosuitsluke, even though I have become a pretty big fan of Maiden, I am sort with ya on Bruce. He is obviously a great singer, but I like his voice much more than I love it. I didn't even consider him when doing my 25 favorite singers when I ran that countdown.
20th Century Bruce is great. 21st Century Bruce ... not so much. His output nowadays is much like JLB - his best years are definitely far behind him, and his voice is a shell of what it used to be. Both make their current output virtually unlistenable for me.
Oof! Bruce being able to perform how he does still in the original keys is beyond impressive. I can't see the comparisons with recent JLB at all.
I love JLB but, yes, I don't think there's much of a comparison in terms of live performances these days. Bruce is still doing pretty great, on material that is not forgiving at all :)
I'll also say, I think Bruce sounds better on more recent releases like En Vivo, RIR and Flight 666 as opposed to LAD and Maiden England.
I've said it before - as (rightly) iconic as LAD is, I too think the vocal performance on RiR is better. I mean, I'm sure that the relentless touring they did for Powerslave had taken a toll on Bruce by then, but I wouldn't say his vocals are immaculate on it. Rock In Rio is absolutely amazing that way. To me 1995-2002 (roughly speaking) Bruce was (almost) as good as he'd ever been.
He was burnt out on LAD, you can tell and that kinda just kept going all the way through to his exit.
I agree, he sounded incredible on the solo albums and tours and I'd probably even agree the best he's ever sounded.
One bad performance from Bruce though I wish we got a full official show of was Donington 88. He was sick as fuck, but the tracks that were released sound great and have an awesome mix. Would have always loved a full show from that one.
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However, in time, when I want to listen to some Maiden, I'd find myself grabbing BNW, AMOLAD or TFF more than PS, SIT or POM. I had to admit one day that the run of reunion albums is at least on a par with the classics.
To me, this is what separates them. The Reunion Era resulted in better songwriting and all around better performances. I know many feel like Maiden has a paint by numbers feel to them, but closer fans recognize the fact that they have pushed boundaries.
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However, in time, when I want to listen to some Maiden, I'd find myself grabbing BNW, AMOLAD or TFF more than PS, SIT or POM. I had to admit one day that the run of reunion albums is at least on a par with the classics.
To me, this is what separates them. The Reunion Era resulted in better songwriting and all around better performances. I know many feel like Maiden has a paint by numbers feel to them, but closer fans recognize the fact that they have pushed boundaries.
Another thing a lot of fans won't want to admit is that Janick's involvement makes these albums extra special and gives them that extra edge in them pushing those boundaries and covering some slightly new territory.
The only thing is I wish the production on the reunion albums were better, but I've come to terms with them.
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The only thing is I wish the production on the reunion albums were better, but I've come to terms with them.
I hear this. It seems like many are very high on the last two albums, but the production is so oft-putting that I have difficulty getting through more than a couple songs at at time from each. I suspect I'd really like both if the songs sounded good.
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The only thing is I wish the production on the reunion albums were better, but I've come to terms with them.
I hear this. It seems like many are very high on the last two albums, but the production is so oft-putting that I have difficulty getting through more than a couple songs at at time from each. I suspect I'd really like both if the songs sounded good.
It's funny, I thought Senjutsu sounded really quite good. TBOS however sounded trash. Senjutsu and BNW both sounded fine, especially BNW but the rest had their issues.
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25 Nope, especially at this point
24 Opeth (16)
23 Mastodon (23)
22 No Way
21 Thought they had a chance, but probably not at this point
20 Judas Priest (17)
19 I guess not
18 Evergrey (43)
17 Anathema (36)
16 Pain of Salvation (26)
15 I guess not
14 Nope
13 Thought they might have a shot, but no
12 Metallica (3)
11 Nope
10 Marillion (18)
9 Katatonia (39)
8 I thought maaaaaybe, but not at this point
7 Nope
6 Fates Warning (12)
5 Queensryche (8)
4 Iron Maiden (3)
3 Nope
2 Lock
1 Lock
8/23 in the top 25, 12/48 in the top 50
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Another thing a lot of fans won't want to admit is that Janick's involvement makes these albums extra special and gives them that extra edge in them pushing those boundaries and covering some slightly new territory.
Such an underrated and underappreciated member.
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Another thing a lot of fans won't want to admit is that Janick's involvement makes these albums extra special and gives them that extra edge in them pushing those boundaries and covering some slightly new territory.
Such an underrated and underappreciated member.
We've both said it before, but his songwriting is incredible. Up there with the other three members in that respect IMO.
I do wish Dave did a bit more. He was the one that made BNW extra special IMO.
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twosuitsluke, even though I have become a pretty big fan of Maiden, I am sort with ya on Bruce. He is obviously a great singer, but I like his voice much more than I love it. I didn't even consider him when doing my 25 favorite singers when I ran that countdown.
20th Century Bruce is great. 21st Century Bruce ... not so much. His output nowadays is much like JLB - his best years are definitely far behind him, and his voice is a shell of what it used to be. Both make their current output virtually unlistenable for me.
WUT???
What output are you listening to to make this judgement? Senjutsu? Bruce is great on it. His voice is not a "shell" of what it once was.
I'll give you that the vocal track for the Mexico City live album is pretty bad, but I've watched a lot of clips from that tour, the current tour, and I'm not thinking Jesus this guy blows.
I think we tend to romanticize classic or early periods. Reunion Era Maiden and Reunion era Bruce have been amazing.
The Hartford show is up on YouTube in it's entirety, and that was beginning of August. The Mexico shows were end of September. Like night and day. Bruce sounded SO good the entire show in Hartford.
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Yeah...I'm confused about most of this. Bill, what does relevant mean in this context? Metallica is the only band in the discussion for biggest metal band, and that's been the case for a long time. Best frontman is debatable, but it's a different discussion from best lead singer. Obviously, Dio has been dead for more than a decade, so it's an easy choice for Bruce for frontman. As far as singers, I've always thought Halford was the best pure singer, although I went with Dickinson > Dio > Halford when we did the singers countdown. And I don't know any consensus that favors Priest over Maiden as best metal band. As of the early '90s, I'd say they were even, but Maiden rebounded from Dickinson leaving far better/more than Priest did with Halford.
Relevant? 6 Grammy wins, double the next closest "competitor". They're the ones that get dragged out when these idiots in the Establishment want to show "cred". Who did Lady Gaga get paired up with at the Grammy's show? Metallica. The only "true" metal bands in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? AC/DC, Black Sabbath, Metallica, and Judas Priest, in that order.
I'm still confused.
You wrote: "I think Maiden is THE quintessential metal act. Most relevant act in heavy rock, but somehow the consensus has fallen on Metallica (even though Maiden has produced TWO double studio records in a row, and in my humble opinion the most recent is one of their best albums of their career)."
So...you think Maiden is the "most relevant act in heavy rock"? However, despite your belief that Maiden is "most relevant," the consensus views Metallica as "most relevant"? Relevant to what? Are you just saying that you don't really understand why Maiden isn't as big/popular as Metallica?
Takes one to know one when I say "I think you're over-thinking this". Metallica is a sort of critics darling. They get the Grammy nods, the showcase performances, etc. and I think that SHOULD be Maiden. I think they embody everything that metal is AND they're still a working band.
Just my opinion, and I was giving reasons why. I get that at least in America they don't agree with me and that's fine.
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I agree with the Chadster and that's why I listen to only 80's Maiden (but again I only listen to 70's,80's early 90's rock/metal regardless, so might not be the best resource)
Dude, the reunion albums rival the golden era run IMO. It's all quality.
Yes!
I'll also say, I think Bruce sounds better on more recent releases like En Vivo, RIR and Flight 666 as opposed to LAD and Maiden England.
Yes!
I agree with both of these as well.
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Yeah...I'm confused about most of this. Bill, what does relevant mean in this context? Metallica is the only band in the discussion for biggest metal band, and that's been the case for a long time. Best frontman is debatable, but it's a different discussion from best lead singer. Obviously, Dio has been dead for more than a decade, so it's an easy choice for Bruce for frontman. As far as singers, I've always thought Halford was the best pure singer, although I went with Dickinson > Dio > Halford when we did the singers countdown. And I don't know any consensus that favors Priest over Maiden as best metal band. As of the early '90s, I'd say they were even, but Maiden rebounded from Dickinson leaving far better/more than Priest did with Halford.
Relevant? 6 Grammy wins, double the next closest "competitor". They're the ones that get dragged out when these idiots in the Establishment want to show "cred". Who did Lady Gaga get paired up with at the Grammy's show? Metallica. The only "true" metal bands in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? AC/DC, Black Sabbath, Metallica, and Judas Priest, in that order.
I'm still confused.
You wrote: "I think Maiden is THE quintessential metal act. Most relevant act in heavy rock, but somehow the consensus has fallen on Metallica (even though Maiden has produced TWO double studio records in a row, and in my humble opinion the most recent is one of their best albums of their career)."
So...you think Maiden is the "most relevant act in heavy rock"? However, despite your belief that Maiden is "most relevant," the consensus views Metallica as "most relevant"? Relevant to what? Are you just saying that you don't really understand why Maiden isn't as big/popular as Metallica?
Takes one to know one when I say "I think you're over-thinking this". Metallica is a sort of critics darling. They get the Grammy nods, the showcase performances, etc. and I think that SHOULD be Maiden. I think they embody everything that metal is AND they're still a working band.
Just my opinion, and I was giving reasons why. I get that at least in America they don't agree with me and that's fine.
As my ranking makes clear, currently Iron Maiden sits higher for me, despite the fact Metallica were my first true "love" in heavy music and still hold an incredibly special place in my musical heart. However, I do genuinely enjoy Maiden's current output, way more than I do Metallica's (with the possible exception of Hardwired, which I really like). [By "current", I mean basically anything post-2000...which is funny as it is, in terms of pure number of years, more than half of both bands' careers]
Having said that, yes, there's no doubt Metallica are way more loved by "critics" in the US. I don't know that it should be Maiden...despite the fact that Metallica are (and, of course, have been) a heavier-sounding band than Maiden, they have clearly transcended the narrow confines of metal in terms of popular culture. IM (again, in the US), not so much. Maybe it's the whole imagery, Eddie etc...I don't know. They clearly are a metal mainstream band, while Metallica...well, I think we can say they are now a mainstream band, period. Arguably, as was discussed here, it all boils down to Metallica having a "Black Album", while Maiden don't...that was probably the one factor that propelled them to a status that Maiden could never reach.
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Metallica is the token metal band in a non metal fan's playlist.
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To each their own. The decline in Bruce's listenability (for my ears) is nearly as steep as JLB's decline. I listened to Senjutsu today based on Bill's comment that it's possibly his favorite album. The best parts were the instrumental sections. I'll just leave it at that, and stand by my comment ... "why am I not just listening to the original-era albums instead?"
To be fair, I'll fire up TFF and TBOS one more (final?) time in case I'm mis-remembering.
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Metallica is the token metal band in a non metal fan's playlist.
Exactly. Not so with Maiden, as popular as they are.
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Don’t get me started on TFF. I almost didn’t get it because of some negative feedback and when I finally heard it, it blew my doors off.
That album doesn’t get enough love and I’m convinced that anyone who doesn’t like Satellite 15 is either deaf or hasn’t heard it “immersively” on a decent set of headphones at high volume! :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
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I don't know much Iron Maiden except Brave New World, and I really like that album.
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1. LOCK
2. LOCK
3. The Beatles
4. Probably not
5. Nope
6. IRON MAIDEN
7. Metallica
8. Led Zeppelin
9. Van Halen
10. Nope
11. Mastodon
12. Spock's Beard
13. Nope
14. Nope
15. Between the Buried and Me
16. Nope
17. Avenged Sevenfold
18. Opeth
19. Nope
20. Tool
21. Coheed & Cambria
22. Pink Floyd
23. Absolutely nope
24. Nope
25. Megadeth
31. Kiss
34. Queen
38. Transatlantic
47. Genesis
79. Black Sabbath
85. Yes
86. Porcupine Tree
92. Fates Warning
My LOCK prediction count: 7/9 - Time to untuck my t-shirt, take off my white trainers and call it a day.
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Metallica is the token metal band in a non metal fan's playlist.
I tend to find it's Linkin Park mainly their debut album 'Hybrid Theory' I know loads of people who aren't metal heads who seem to own that album.
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Having listened to Maidens more recent albums, I will say I actually have slightly more of an inclination to listen to the albums they've released over the last 20 years over Metallica's last two efforts. Maidens reunion stuff has that proggy edge to it and I'm almost completely uninterested in Hardwired and 72 Seasons.
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Don’t get me started on TFF. I almost didn’t get it because of some negative feedback and when I finally heard it, it blew my doors off.
That album doesn’t get enough love and I’m convinced that anyone who doesn’t like Satellite 15 is either deaf or hasn’t heard it “immersively” on a decent set of headphones at high volume! :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
But Satellite 15 is the worst part of that album. It's a really good album after that. Plus I only listen to music on high end headphones plugged into a DAC and headphone amp. So that isn't it.
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Metallica is the token metal band in a non metal fan's playlist.
I tend to find it's Linkin Park mainly their debut album 'Hybrid Theory' I know loads of people who aren't metal heads who seem to own that album.
That begs the question though, are Linkin Park considered metal or maybe alt rock?
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Metallica is the token metal band in a non metal fan's playlist.
I tend to find it's Linkin Park mainly their debut album 'Hybrid Theory' I know loads of people who aren't metal heads who seem to own that album.
That begs the question though, are Linkin Park considered metal or maybe alt rock?
I mean, I wouldn't call them metal, not even slightly, but people call me a metal elitist, so what do I know...
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I think it's no surprise what number 2 is:
02. Rush
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Number 2 for Rush was about as sure thing as you can get on this form. I personally placed them at number 11. I love Rush, and I got into them fairly late. They would've placed higher but there are some real clunkers in the discography that I frequently skip over.
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Rush is one of those bands that everyone around me seems to adore, and I've genuinely tried to jump on the bandwagon. The musicianship is top-notch; there's no denying that. But Geddy Lee's vocals, man, they're like a barrier for me. I've given their albums multiple listens, attended a live show even, but it just doesn't click.
I get the appeal, I really do, and I don't want to rain on anyone's parade. It's just that every time I attempt to get into Rush, I find myself struggling to connect with the music because of the vocals. I've had friends recommend specific songs, tried starting with different albums, but it's like hitting a wall. I guess this is what Stadler feels when Radiohead comes up.
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2a for me. They're the band I've seen the most times live in my life, and a lot of great memories and stories about many of those shows - including a weekend in Montreal with King, his brother, and a pal of theirs for my final time seeing them. Clunkers in their discography - not really, there are just some albums that are not as great as others - and the great albums are truly great. Two of them (AFTK and MP) are in my Top 10 of all-time. I'll allow others that are bigger fans to throw the superlatives out, but there's virtually nothing about Rush that I don't like/enjoy at a minimum.
25. Queen (23)
24. Van Halen (13)
23. Nada
22. Nope
21. Uh-uh
20. Queensryche (8) <99% certain>
19. Nah
18. No
17. Iron Maiden (3) <Guaranteed>
16. I could be the only one that voted for them
15. I'm definitely the only one that voted for them
14. Pink Floyd (6) <Fo Sho>
13. Evergrey (43)
12. I'm not sure why I even voted for them!
11. Nightwish (40)
10. Me and King only
9. Nope
8. Symphony-X (50)
7. Highly unlikely, and I'm stunned they didn't make the Top 50.
6. Spock's Beard (28)
5. Criminally, no
4. Ayreon (29)
3. Without a doubt
2. Rush (2) <Bet my annual salary>
1. Led Zeppelin (10) <99% certain>
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I had Rush at #9, they would've been higher if I loved more of their stuff than just the 1975-1981 albums (pretty much the Terry Brown era). I'm not a fan of the synth era, and I've not listened that much to the latter albums. I'm doing a deep dive through their discography at the moment, to explore the later albums more in detail. I came quite late into Rush, it was only around the release of Clockwork Angels in 2012 that I started listening to them. So I didn't grow up with the band as I suspect many of you have. I never saw them live either. My two favourite albums are Moving Pictures and A Farewell To Kings.
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NR Frank Zappa
NR Steven Wilson
NR Devin Townsend
NR Tool
NR Symphony X
NR Spock's Beard
NR Riverside
NR Radiohead
NR Queensryche
NR Porcupine Tree
NR Pain Of Salvation
NR Opeth
NR Nightwish
NR Metallica
NR Megadeth
NR Mastodon
NR Katatonia
NR Judas Priest
NR Helloween
NR Haken
NR Godspeed You! Black Emperor
NR Fates Warning
NR Evergrey
NR The Deer Hunter
NR Miles Davis
NR Coheed And Cambria
NR Big Big Train
NR Between The Buried And Me
NR Ayreon
NR Avenged Sevenfold
NR Anathema
NR Allagoch
53 King Crimson (Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic, ITCOTCK)
47 Peter Gabriel (US, So, Car)
35 Scorpions (Taken By Force, Lovedrive, Animal Magnetism)
34 UFO (Mechanix, SITN, Force It)
30 Transatlantic (The Whirlwind, Bridge Across Forever, The Absolute Universe)
26 Van Halen (Fair Warning, A Different Kind Of Truth, 1984)
25 Sadly, not a shot
24 Sadly, not a shot
23 Pink Floyd (Wish You Were Here, Dark Side Of The Moon, The Wall)
22 Queen (Queen II; Innuendo; A Kind Of Magic)
21 Rush (Moving Pictures, Hemispheres, A Farewell To Kings)
20 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
19 Probably not; they are a classic, but don't seem to get much love here
18 Sadly, not a shot
17 Sadly, not a shot
16 Given. SHOULD BE a Given, but given this crowd - see what I did there - sadly, "Probably not"
15 Probably not; it's an offshoot of another band here and it won't likely make the grade
14 Sadly, not a shot
13 Sadly, not a shot
12 Neal Morse. (And yes, I lumped.). (Innocence and Danger; The Grand Experiment; TSOAD)
11 Black Sabbath (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sabotage, Heaven and Hell)
10 Sadly, not a shot
9 Iron Maiden (Powerslave, Killers, Senjutsu)
8 Probably not; his more popular (here) incarnation already appeared
7 Given
6 Marillion (Clutching At Straws, Misplaced Childhood, Brave)
5 Yes (Going For The One, Fragile, Close To The Edge)
4 Led Zeppelin (Physical Graffiti, IV, How The West Was Won)
3. Kiss (Rock And Roll Over; Creatures Of The Night; Hotter Than Hell)
2 Genesis (Wind And Wuthering, Duke, The Lamb...]
1 The Beatles (Abbey Road, Sgt. Pepper, Revolver)
Rush is a band. I love them, seen them multiple times and have gotten great joy from them over the years. Not QUITE the level of love some have here, though. I put them at 21 not because of anything other than I got into them relatively later and there are 20 other bands that have resonated more over the years. Hemispheres is, though, one of my favorite albums of all time, and I frequently list "La Villa Strangiato" as my favorite instrumental.
6 for 9 on "givens".
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I had Rush at #9, they would've been higher if I loved more of their stuff than just the 1975-1981 albums (pretty much the Terry Brown era). I'm not a fan of the synth era, and I've not listened that much to the latter albums. I'm doing a deep dive through their discography at the moment, to explore the later albums more in detail. I came quite late into Rush, it was only around the release of Clockwork Angels in 2012 that I started listening to them. So I didn't grow up with the band as I suspect many of you have. I never saw them live either. My two favourite albums are Moving Pictures and A Farewell To Kings.
You got those two right! :tup :tup
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Don’t get me started on TFF. I almost didn’t get it because of some negative feedback and when I finally heard it, it blew my doors off.
That album doesn’t get enough love and I’m convinced that anyone who doesn’t like Satellite 15 is either deaf or hasn’t heard it “immersively” on a decent set of headphones at high volume! :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal
But Satellite 15 is the worst part of that album. It's a really good album after that. Plus I only listen to music on high end headphones plugged into a DAC and headphone amp. So that isn't it.
When I first heard S-15, I was blown away. I couldn't believe Iron maiden, this long into their career, were starting an album so...unpredictably. My only beef with it is that it's not its own track. It's not something that I love to hear every time I listen to TFF so I wish I could just skip to the title track.
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Rush #11 for me, Moving Pictures being the obvious choice for best album. I'm a big fan of AFTK through Signals, and then CA was a return to form and a great swan song.
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I ranked Rush at #2, matching the consensus exactly.
Rush wasn't the first band I truly got into as one of my own -- my #1-ranked band sadly missed the Top 50. But coming out of a time in my adolescence when I'd tried (mostly unsuccessfully) to get into mainstream music, Rush was the band that really set the foundation for me to dive deep into something more progressive, and then continue to explore from there.
I got into Rush in the year 2000, which was during their hiatus after Neil's tragedies. I had no idea if I'd ever get to see them in concert, but I started working my way through their discography. Test For Echo was my first, and "Resist" is the song that hooked me on the band. Presto was my second, and to this day, the title track remains my #1 favorite Rush song. That's probably a strange trajectory to start there rather than with the classics, but it worked for me!
When the reunion was announced, I was thrilled. I got to see Rush in concert 9 times from 2002 to 2012, including acquiring (through slightly less than legitimate means) front row for the 2004 show in Toronto. Regrettably, I missed the R40 tour that ended their time as a touring band.
It's very hard for me to pick out a favorite era of the band, because I'm all over the place with Rush. There are albums from each era of the band that I can't live without, and there are others from each era that I'm a little more lukewarm on. I've never been huge on AFTK or Moving Pictures, strangely, particularly as a couple people above have pointed those two out as their favorites. On the contrary, I list Hemispheres and Permanent Waves among my favorites. I love the synth-era GUP-PoW-HYF run, and Presto (terrible production aside) has some of the band's best and tightest songwriting. Vapor Trails was refreshing and punchy, S&A may sadly be the least-inspired thing they've ever released, and then Clockwork Angels was a pretty solid album to close it all out. "The Garden" might be a top 10 Rush song for me, and a fitting coda on an amazing career.
Rush led me to the band this forum is named after, though I'm sure that's not an uncommon story. Rush also led me to my first "home" on the internet -- I was a long-time member of the now-defunct Counterparts message board, though the less said about some of the goings-on at that place, the better. :lol
Oh, and Victor > MFH.
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Rush obviously would have been my number 1. My favorite band of all time. Moving Pictures and Power Windows are both top 10 all time albums for me. The greatest.
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I think it's no surprise what number 2 is:
02. Rush
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Number 2 for Rush was about as sure thing as you can get on this form. I personally placed them at number 11. I love Rush, and I got into them fairly late. They would've placed higher but there are some real clunkers in the discography that I frequently skip over.
NR: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Agalloch, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Helloween, Between The Buried And Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Peter Gabriel, Megadeth, Pain Of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed And Cambria, Mastodon, Tool, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Opeth, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Led Zeppelin, Queensryche, Metallica, Iron Maiden
30 Emerson Lake & Palmer
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
27 The Beatles
26 Queen
25 (Leave this band behind)
24 (Interesting but not looking quite good)
23 (Most unlikely)
22 Pink Floyd
21 (Not likely)
20 Riverside
19 (Most likely not)
18 (Unlikely)
17 (Unfortunately not lucky enough)
16 (Pretty sure they won't make it)
15 (Only if hell freezes over)
14 Steven Wilson
13 Yes
12 Genesis
11 (This outfit won't make it)
10 Ayreon
09 Haken
08 Porcupine Tree
07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
05
04 Rush
03 Transatlantic
02 (Totally nother making it)
01 Big Big Train
I placed Rush fourth because, while they're an all-time favorite. I just haven't listened to them as much or as regularly as I used to. That and my top three have all had new albums since 2012, so they've been in my listening rotation far more often. Other than that there probably isn't much more I can say about Rush that I haven't said dozens of times before, but as for my favorite albums, Permanent Waves and Power Windows would be near the top.
I'll reveal my full list tomorrow with the number one reveal, but if you've read the clues, most of them could be figured out anyways.
-Marc.
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When I used to work in retail, we used to always have music playing in the warehouse (where I spent most of my time). One of my supervisors was a huge Rush fan, and on a regular we would play either Rush, DT or Coheed and Cambria. He couldn't understand why I didn't like rush, and honestly, neither can I. They have all the right elements for music I should enjoy, but besides the odd song here and there they just never clicked with me. *runs away*
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25
24
23
22 Symphony X
21 Transatlantic
20
19 Megadeth
18
17
16
15
14
13 YES
12
11
10
9 Marillion
8 Rush
7
6 Metallica
5 Genesis
4 Pink Floyd
3 Iron Maiden
2 Avenged Sevenfold
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Love Rush
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They're fine I guess, I like some songs here and there. I should prob try again tho, it's been many many years.
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I respect Rush immensely.
Can't say I love them, it's more a "standing in awe" thing.
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Had them at #3. First became a fan in the late 80's when my Dad copied A Show of Hands onto VHS. Presto was the first album I purchased, since it was the newest one at the time, and off I went! I got back into them in 2004 after reading Neil's book Traveling Music, and went back and started completing my collection on CD, and I've been an even bigger fan since then. I finally got to see them live on the Snakes and Arrows tour, and that was such a killer show!
I could go on and on about how they've impacted me over the years, and as I grow older, their music only resonates with me more and more. I love Rush, and they will remain in my top 3 favorite bands for as long as I live. They're in my son's favorite bands as well, and he recently informed me that 2112 is now his second favorite Rush song, behind Show Don't Tell. I often quote Rush lyrics to him as a parent, and he thinks it's pretty cool!
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Rush were at number 4 for me. For a long time they have been one of the big 3 that were almost interchangeable for me, but since their retirement I think it’s fair to say they’ve just been passed up by an active band. They have also always been the clear 3rd in that trio, but mostly because I’m not as big a fan of the beginning and end of their catalog.
That said, the albums from Hemispheres through Vapor Trails I all love to one degree or another, and there is just a quality to Rush’s music and songs that connects with me on a deeper human level than most other bands. Neil’s drumming and lyrics are a big part of that, but so are Geddy’s bass and vocals and Alex’s guitar work. All parts of the band fire together perfectly. It takes a certain chemistry to pull off a power trio, and nobody had more of it than Rush.
I think back on when Rush was rising up the ranks as one of my favorite bands, and it was absolutely because they were great musically and instrumentally, but also because they paired that with lyrics that were really meaningful to me (and still are). And I think Neil had this way of sculpting his drum parts that was just as powerful as his words. The two almost worked together. Don’t think there will ever be another like him in that regard.
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Had them at #3. First became a fan in the late 80's when my Dad copied A Show of Hands onto VHS. Presto was the first album I purchased, since it was the newest one at the time, and off I went!
Other than the dad part, this mirrors me as well. I knew the radio hits for the longest time, but then got me a copy of Chronicles, and A Show of Hands (man, I watched the fuck out of that concert in the day), and they had me hook, line, and sinker.
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i love Rush but they didn't make my list. i'm so thankful i got to see them live before it ended though. incredible band with a very underrated 80s run
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Great pick for the #2. I wonder who will be at number one, though.
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Rush is my #2. Their discography from 2112 to Hold Your Fire is magnificent IMO. But they also released very good albums that aren't in this period. What a journey! In my dreams I wish they could have released an album that was very progressive like Hemespheres with the heavy keyboard/electronic influences from PoW/HYF era... but maybe it's just a sign of how much I love both eras. :heart
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Great pick for the #2. I wonder who will be at number one, though.
Not to spotlight, but I'll be shocked if it's not Wham!
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Great pick for the #2. I wonder who will be at number one, though.
Not to spotlight, but I'll be shocked if it's not Wham!
Nope. But it is another band that starts with “W”
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Great pick for the #2. I wonder who will be at number one, though.
Not to spotlight, but I'll be shocked if it's not Wham!
Nope. But it is another band that starts with “W”
Finally some love for Wu-Tang Clan then.
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Great pick for the #2. I wonder who will be at number one, though.
Not to spotlight, but I'll be shocked if it's not Wham!
Nope. But it is another band that starts with “W”
Tim’s favorite!
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Great pick for the #2. I wonder who will be at number one, though.
Not to spotlight, but I'll be shocked if it's not Wham!
Nope. But it is another band that starts with “W”
Finally some love for Wu-Tang Clan then.
Wu-Tang is for everyone.
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Great pick for the #2. I wonder who will be at number one, though.
Not to spotlight, but I'll be shocked if it's not Wham!
Nope. But it is another band that starts with “W”
Who? ;)
My little recap
21t. Queen (#1)
15. Yes (#17)
13t. Van Halen (#11) for their debut and Hagar years.
Well, I got on a roll with five in a row…..
10. Led Zeppelin (#4)
09. The Beatles (#2) love the prior stories. I’m old enough to have seen their first appearance on ‘The Ed Sullivan Show’. My Mom loved them! My older cousin would get the Capitol LP versions the day of release, along with the 45s, and I get to hear them about a week later. I bought a CD player specifically because of the ’20 Years Ago Today’ PR push of their UK LPs being released on CD in 1987. Bought the 09/09/09 boxset release, which finally had the first four albums in stereo. And I’ve read many of Mark Lewisohn’s books repeatedly.
08. Queensryche (#14)
07. Genesis (#18)
06. Pink Floyd….I had them at, uhm....oops, should have been #15 :facepalm:
02. Rush (#8)
01. :justjen (#7)
Karolis….thanks for all of your hard work in doing this :tup
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So I at least got all of my top 4 onto the list! 7 in the top 50 so far:
19. King Crimson
8. Peter Gabriel
7. Spock’s Beard
4. Rush
3. Genesis
2. Big Big Train
1. Marillion
One more to go, but where did I rank them?
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Rush wasn't ranked for me. Truth be told, I haven't heard a song by them before I joined DTF I think. Didn't expect anything less than Top 2 for them though, and well-deserved too.
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When I used to work in retail, we used to always have music playing in the warehouse (where I spent most of my time). One of my supervisors was a huge Rush fan, and on a regular we would play either Rush, DT or Coheed and Cambria. He couldn't understand why I didn't like rush, and honestly, neither can I. They have all the right elements for music I should enjoy, but besides the odd song here and there they just never clicked with me. *runs away*
See, I DO love them, but they're not "1a, 1b, 1c" and it's the same thing. They have all the elements. But... I LOVE Geddy as a bass player; but sometimes the vocals don't land. I LOVE Alex as a guitar player; but sometimes his tone is a bit thin, and for me, he doesn't have an iconic "Comfortably Numb" solo. I LOVE Neil as a drummer - Mt. Rushmore -; but as often as not, his lyrics don't connect.
I know for me, I don't mind keyboards, but I'm a Banks/Wakeman kind of guy and the keys in Rush are more synth-y.
All the elements, but...
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I had Rush at 13 on my list. That's pretty high considering my musical tastes. I can totally understand any fan's lifelong fandom with Rush. run of 2112-Moving Pictures is the Era that really resonates with me and places them where they place. If not for that run, they don't sniff my list.
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I had Rush at 13 on my list. That's pretty high considering my musical tastes. I can totally understand any fan's lifelong fandom with Rush. run of 2112-Moving Pictures is the Era that really resonates with me and places them where they place. If not for that run, they don't sniff my list.
And if not for Power Windows, they probably sniff your top 5!
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I had Rush at 13 on my list. That's pretty high considering my musical tastes. I can totally understand any fan's lifelong fandom with Rush. run of 2112-Moving Pictures is the Era that really resonates with me and places them where they place. If not for that run, they don't sniff my list.
And if not for Power Windows, they probably sniff your top 5!
Well, Power Windows definitely sniffs..
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Up to 11
Rush
I had Rush at 12.
Yeah I love them but they are not my favorite band.
Have only seen them live once, on the Snakes and Arrows tour. So glad I got to do that at least.
It might have something to do with when I became a fan that my favorite album is Hold Your Fire. There is just something there, an atmosphere perhaps, that sets it apart for me.
Still I really like all albums.
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Haken, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Queensrÿche, Genesis, Porcupine Tree, Metallica, Iron Maiden
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24
23
22
21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
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19 Steven Wilson (favorite album: The Raven That Refused To Sing, favorite song: The Raven That Refused To Sing)
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
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16
15 Yes (Favorite album: Close to the Edge, favorite song:Roundabout)
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
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12 Rush (favorite album: Hold Your Fire, favorite song: 2112)
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10
9
8
7
6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
5 Pink Floyd (favorite album: Dark Side of the Moon, favorite song: Wish You Were Here)
4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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Great pick for the #2. I wonder who will be at number one, though.
Not to spotlight, but I'll be shocked if it's not Wham!
Nope. But it is another band that starts with “W”
Finally some love for Wu-Tang Clan then.
I'm a fan, for sure. I love wearing my Wu-Tang shirt to concerts of other genres and getting funny looks.
Rush is great. I don't love them as much as a lot of people here, but they definitely would have made my list, probably somewhere between 20 and 25. No shock whatsoever that they wound up # 2 on this list.
The Metallica slagging is funny.
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10 for 10.
9 for 9.
8 for 8.
7 for 7.
6 for 6.
5 for 5.
4 for 4.
I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
D
-Genesis
-Haken
-Iron Maiden
-Led Zeppelin
-Metallica
-Pink Floyd
-Porcupine Tree
-Queensryche
-Rush
-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
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02. Rush
My progression of favorites of all-time is pretty sparse. It started with the Beatles, then it was Styx. Rush has occupied the top spot for the better part of the last 35 years even though not produced since 1982 has surpassed what came before. The fact is that, even on those albums that aren't very strong (Power Windows, Roll the Bones, and Snakes and Arrows), there songs that knock my socks off (well...maybe not RTB). While the second half of the career wasn't as dense with quality as the first half, the fact that they continued to make great music for four decades is truly impressive.
1. Rush (2) (LOCK)
2. LOCK
3. Fates Warning (12) (I'll be very sad if they don't make the list. I'm guessing if they aren't one of the next few picks we won't see them.)
4. Iron Maiden (3) (LOCK)
5. Yes (15) (LOCK)
6. Judas Priest (17) (Slightly better than 50/50)
7. Queensryche (8) (Probably (75%+))
8. At this point, I think there's no chance.
9. See #8
10. No way, eh?
11. Genesis (7) (Probably 90%+)
12. Metallica (4) (LOCK)
13. Helloween (38)
14. UFO (42)
15. Led Zeppelin (10) (I think they're probably a lock, but 17 or higher seems surprising to me)
16. The Beatles (9) (LOCK)
17. At this point, I'm going to say no better than a 20% chance - surprisingly underrated around here
18. See #17
19. Black Sabbath (20)
20. Not a chance
21. I'm probably the only one to submit this artist
22. See #17
23. Probably?
24. Scorpions (46T)
25. See #17
Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeath, Riverside, KISS, Ayreon, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Pain of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed & Cambria, Mastodon, Queen, Tool, Transatlantic, Marillion, Opeth, Van Halen (36), Steven Wilson, Haken, Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree
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A favorite from each Rush album:
- None
- Fly By Night
- The Necromancer
- A Passage to Bangkok
- Closer to the Heart
- The Trees
- The Spirit of Radio
- Red Barchetta
- Subdivisions
- Between The Wheels
- Emotion Detector
- Force Ten
- Available Light
- Bravado
- Everyday Glory
- The Color of Right
- Vapor Trail
- Armor and Sword
- The Garden
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Rush is pretty much responsible for my interest in the whole prog scene. My freshman year of high school a friend lent me Moving Pictures, and I remember being particularly mesmerized by Neil's tom fills. I took to Geddy's synth and bass playing at some point later, and after being on the fence about it for awhile, grew to love Alex's guitar playing a lot as well. My favorite era is the synth-era, and I remember constantly hearing people complain about the guitar playing not being as front and center. Maybe it isn't quite as prominent, but the parts he plays then I think are actually more interesting and unique, whereas the early material can be a bit too much just Zeppelin-on-steroids-sounding. Like probably almost a quarter of the bands in the countdown, Geddy's voice is the limiting factor for me, particularly early on. It's more tolerable starting in the 80s, though I still never really love it. So I quite like them and respect them even more, but they don't make my list.
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Rush is one of those bands that everyone around me seems to adore, and I've genuinely tried to jump on the bandwagon. The musicianship is top-notch; there's no denying that. But Geddy Lee's vocals, man, they're like a barrier for me.
I used to feel that way, but the later albums, where Geddy sings in a lower register, clicked with me. I think I'm one of very few people who consider Test For Echo my favorite Rush ablum.
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Geddy’s voice was harsh and almost unlistenable at times in the 70s. He became a really fine singer in the 80s though.
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Rush is one of those bands that everyone around me seems to adore, and I've genuinely tried to jump on the bandwagon. The musicianship is top-notch; there's no denying that. But Geddy Lee's vocals, man, they're like a barrier for me.
I used to feel that way, but the later albums, where Geddy sings in a lower register, clicked with me. I think I'm one of very few people who consider Test For Echo my favorite Rush ablum.
[sings] You’ve got a friiiieeeend in meeeee… [/sings]
I’m the same way. Counterparts just seemed a bit like “trying too hard” to prove they could still be heavy. And at times it was ham fisted and silly. Test for Echo righted the ship IMO. Better songwriting, better lyrics (“net boy net girl” is still worlds better than “aaahhhh yes to yes to aaahhh to yes why the sun” …seriously the most WTF in Rush’s entire catalog). I think TFE is easily the best of the 90s albums.
No band has impacted my life and music listening habits more than Rush. First heard Tom Sawyer at a 6th grade graduation party in 1982, and by 1984, Rush was basically god to me. I would call into radio stations as “The Renton Rush Raver” (my hometown was Renton, WA, a suburb near Seattle) and that also became my first online pseudonym when I began frequenting dial up BBS hangouts in the mid 80s. (Anyone remember cradle modems?)
So ya. No brainer that they will always be my favorite band.
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A favorite from each Rush album:
And least favorite...
Rush: Working Man (29) Need Some Love (160)
FBN: By-Tor and the Snow Dog (9) Rivendell (164)
COS: The Necromancer (27) I Think I'm Going Bald (134)
2112: 2112 (19) Lessons (104)
AFTK: Xanadu (3) Madrigal (89)
Hemispheres: Hemispheres (1) Circumstances (26)
PEW: Natural Science (2) Different Strings (48)
MP: Limelight (6) Witch Hunt (47)
Signals: Subdivisions (11) The Weapon (95)
GUP: Between the Wheels (31) Red Lenses (115)
POW: Marathon (40) Mystic Rhythms (132)
HYF: Mission (41) High Water (143)
Presto: Available Light (18) Hand over Fist (165)
RTB: The Big Wheel (54) You Bet Your Life (163)
Counterparts: Everyday Glory (33) The Speed of Love (139)
T4E: Test for Echo (59) Dog Years (148)
VT: Earthshine (23) How It Is (156)
S&A: Armor and Sword (28) Bravest Face (153)
CA: Headlong Flight (38) BU2B2 (166)
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Great pick for the #2. I wonder who will be at number one, though.
Not to spotlight, but I'll be shocked if it's not Wham!
Nope. But it is another band that starts with “W”
Taylor SWift? :justjen
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Wilson Steven
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Favorite from each album
What You’re Doing
By-Tor and the Snow Dog
The Necromancer
2112
Xanadu
Hemispheres
Natural Science
Red Barchetta
The Weapon
Between the Wheels
Territories
Prime Mover
Chain Lightning
Dreamline
Cut to the Chase
Driven
Freeze
Hope/Faithless
The Garden
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Had Rush at 16. That's a big statement since they are the odd band out in my 25.
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Wilson Steven
Willie Nelson
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Love a good list...
Rush: Here Again (27) Need Some Love (158)
FBN: Fly By Night (30) Best I Can (157)
COS: The Fountain Of Lamneth (29) I Think I'm Going Bald (154)
2112: Something For Nothing (7) The Twilight Zone (146)
AFTK: A Farewell To Kings (2) Cygnus X-1 (86)
Hemispheres: La Villa Strangiato (1) Circumstances (41)
PEW: Jacob's Ladder (17) Freewill (131)
MP: Tom Sawyer (3) Vital Signs (150)
Signals: Subdivisions (4) Chemistry (91)
GUP: The Enemy Within (41) Kid Gloves (161)
POW: Manhattan Project (9) Grand Designs (135)
HYF: Mission (8) High Water (116)
Presto: War Paint (18) Anagram (For Mongo) (96)
RTB: Where's My Thing? (50) Neurotica (160)
Counterparts: Double Agent (28) Everyday Glory (121)
T4E: Half The World (105) Dog Years (162)
VT: One Little Victory (111) Sweet Miracle (164)
S&A: The Way The Wind Blows (20) We Hold On (149)
CA: The Garden (60) The Wreckers (132)
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Sweet Miracle (164)
This is your lowest ranked song, but there are 165 album tracks (I did 166 because I included Broon's Bane). did you omit an album track when you did your rankings?
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Sweet Miracle (164)
This is your lowest ranked song, but there are 165 album tracks (I did 166 because I included Broon's Bane). did you omit an album track when you did your rankings?
A smart man would have just left Time and Motion off and not listed it because of how bad it is.
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Random thought:
I have seen 19 of my top 25 artists live.
Those I have not seen: Genesis, UFO, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles (although I did see McCartney), Jethro Tull and Journey.
A smart man would have just left Time and Motion off and not listed it because of how bad it is.
I seem to recall someone didn't include BU2B2.
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I am fairly confident Rush would have made my top 10 and maybe even top 5.
I've seen them live 5 or 6 times 9don't recall now), during the Snakes and Arrows and Clockwork Angels tours.
Great band and I don't know their whole discography, but I know a lot and there is an abundance of great songs.
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Random thought:
I have seen 19 of my top 25 artists live.
Those I have not seen: Genesis, UFO, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles (although I did see McCartney), Jethro Tull and Journey.
I've seen 22 of my Top 25 bands, just not seen Thin Lizzy, Led Zeppelin (though I did see two Page & Plant shows in the mid 90's), and Theocracy.
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Hmmm, I've seen 19 of my top 25, the exceptions being Genesis (#11), Queen (#13), Spock's Beard (#20), Led Zeppelin (#21), The Beatles (#23) and Camel (#25).
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I have seen 1 artist on my list: Kip Winger (#6)
Take that back. I also saw Eric Johnson (#18).
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I have seen 1 artist on my list: Kip Winger (#6)
I've seen Kip Winger..twice! :lol
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I don't care about Iron Maiden at all, but I do love Rush. Probably wouldn't have them at number 2, but I guess that's the result of them being one of the main consensus bands on this forum.
Power Windows best album.
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I've seen my #1, Kevin Gilbert in my dreams.
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I don't care about Iron Maiden at all, but I do love Rush. Probably wouldn't have them at number 2, but I guess that's the result of them being one of the main consensus bands on this forum.
Power Windows best album.
This is the way.
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I have seen 1 artist on my list: Kip Winger (#6)
I've seen Kip Winger..twice! :lol
You lucky SOB.
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I've been familiar with Rush's radio hits as far back as I can remember listening to classic rock radio. I was also a young fan of Bob and Doug McKenzie who did "Take Off" with Geddy. I was aware of this and who he was. And his voice never put me off ever. But still, for some reason, hadn't checked them out further. Then in 1991 Dreamline began being played on the radio. That song was the gateway for me diving head first into what would be the biggest musical discovery and inspiration of my life. For some reason, I still remember seeing the HYF vinyls on the shelf at Target when that album was brand new. Something attracted me to the simplicity of that album cover, enticing me to pick it up and listen to what was inside. I never did though, until after RTB and Chronicles. Those three guys had the greatest chemistry, perseverance, personalities, talent, humility, humor...everything. And I miss em.
"Some days were dark
I wish that I could live it all again
Some nights were bright
I wish that I could live it all again"
1. It's RUSH!!!
2. LOCK
3. The Beatles
4. Probably not
5. Nope
6. Iron Maiden
7. Metallica
8. Led Zeppelin
9. Van Halen
10. Nope
11. Mastodon
12. Spock's Beard
13. Nope
14. Nope
15. Between the Buried and Me
16. Nope
17. Avenged Sevenfold
18. Opeth
19. Nope
20. Tool
21. Coheed & Cambria
22. Pink Floyd
23. Absolutely nope
24. Nope
25. Megadeth
31. Kiss
34. Queen
38. Transatlantic
47. Genesis
79. Black Sabbath
85. Yes
86. Porcupine Tree
92. Fates Warning
My LOCK prediction count: 8/9
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I have seen 19 of my favorite bands live (in the case of Queen not in it's real form).
I haven't seen my favorite band live as they split up in 1982, before I had heard a note of them.
I have no real inclination to see Yes live today.... back in the day would have been fantastic.
One group is still active in the studio, they haven't played live for a long, long time though.
Another has been disbanded for years but have now reformed and I might get the chance.
Probably missed my last chance to see another last year as I did not travel to Europe to see them.
One has only done concerts in 1979 and 2014. I tried very hard to get tickets for the 2014 run but unfortunately failed. Will sureley not get the chance.... and no BlueRay release either....
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There's only 4 of my top 25 I've never seen. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Blink-182 and Pantera.
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Sweet Miracle (164)
This is your lowest ranked song, but there are 165 album tracks (I did 166 because I included Broon's Bane). did you omit an album track when you did your rankings?
A smart man would have just left Time and Motion off and not listed it because of how bad it is.
Freaking LOVE THAT SONG!!!
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Yeah I like it a lot. Don't know what's so bad about it.
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Don't know why, but I'm a little surprised I'm the only one that had them in the top spot...
While I had Iron Maiden at #2 (behind Queensryche at 1) Maiden's place was never in question and was also a little surprised only one person had them at #1.
Won't bother saying much more now we've moved onto Rush other than find it strange people would consider Bruce's vocals in such decline. I won't open a can of worms just +1 to Indiscipline's post earlier.
Is what it is and to each our own of course ;)
Anyway with Rush out of the way am glad we can finally agree with Soundgarden at #1 \m/ I had them at #3 personally good result and thanks :lol
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I've seen 13 of my Top 25 live... but could flex that to say I've seen another 3 if I include some member of the band as a solo/duo act (eg, Unledded)
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Finally we reach number 1, and really is it a surprise this band finished number 1? I mean the forum is kind of named after them :lol
01. Dream Theater
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Spotify Profile (https://open.spotify.com/artist/2aaLAng2L2aWD2FClzwiep?si=0uZ-R2N5Q5KirLRIGj4xJw)
Monthly Spotify Streams: 1,531,901
Highest Finish: 1 (Dream Team, devieira73, Trav86, nobloodyname, Setlist Scotty, CharlesPL, bosk1, MustActFastToCoverUp)
Number of top 10 finishes: 36
Number of Lists appeared on: 42 (coz, DragonAttack, Dream Team, DTwwbwMP, HOF, jingle.boy, Metropolaris, pg1067, ReaperKK, romdrums, Stadler, SwedishGose, TAC, twosuitsluke, wolfking, devieira73, Vmadera00, Dave_Manchester, Zydar, jammindude, King Puppies and the Acid Guppies, The Letter M, PMSummer, Buddyhunter1, Trav86, nobloodyname, Fonzie, Sacul, Setlist Scotty, CharlesPL, WilliamMunny, Nactmerrie, The Great Zo, Lethean, WardySI, SomoneLikeHim, elefantStone, Evermind, bosk1, Zoom E, MustActFastToCoverUp, nick_z)
I love DT, they were my personal number 8. I'll never forget the day I heard The Glass Prison and just getting my face melted. The have a huge discography which I mostly love and they're a band that I won't miss live as long as they come somewhat near me.
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Come on then, who didn't have them on their list?
They were 19th on mine.
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I wanted to make a separate pot from the number 1 posting and just say a sincere thank you to all that submitted a list for this countdown. I had a ton of fun running this and I enjoyed seeing some of the terrible choices made by you guys (I kid I kid). Lets do this again next year! There were some members who didn't submit a lit that I'd like to see in the next countdown (Kev, Hef, RJ....) and it'd be cool to see how the list evolves over time.
Over the next few days I'm going to submit the top 50 ordered by streaming popularity, and how the list would look if everyone got one vote. The last post will be one with all the entries and point values.
I hope everyone has a fantastic holiday season and new year! Now I gotta buckle down and get my DT songs in order for Kev's list.
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This was a lot of fun to follow, ReaperKK, thanks for doing it. :tup
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Lots of fun for sure...even if I only saw 4 entries from my list! ;D
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I had DT at #6, and that was pretty generous of me when I did the ranking. I base that mostly off the 1992-2005 period which I think is their strongest. I got into them around 2007 and had my big "fanboy" period for a few years. Then I slowly and gradually lost interest in them with the last couple of albums, as I also lost interest in metal overall. But MP's return has reawakened my interest quite a bit in DT now, and I'm curious what their future together holds.
A huge thanks to ReaperKK for running this!
And this was my submitted Top 25.
25. Ghost
24. Alice Cooper
23. Foo Fighters
22. Judas Priest
21. Yes
20. The Jam
19. Big Big Train
18. Kinks
17. ABBA
16. Tages
15. Pink Floyd
14. Queen
13. Iron Maiden
12. Genesis
11. Oasis
10. The Who
09. Rush
08. Bruce Springsteen
07. Rolling Stones
06. Dream Theater
05. XTC
04. Kiss
03. Paul McCartney
02. Beach Boys
01. Beatles
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Thank YOU, Reap.
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Come on then, who didn't have them on their list?
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Apparently 4 out of 46. :blush ;D They were my favorite band for a few years in high school, and I still like a lot of their material, they'll be somewhere in my honorable mentions list, but I just don't listen to them a ton anymore. Sometimes they're more over the top instrumentally than I'm in the mood for, and JLB's vocals generally don't resonate with me.
That said, the story I seem to tell a couple times a year is that I was part of the Joe Satriani e-mail mailing list, and they did a poll of everyone's favorite other artists. DT won, so I had to check them out. One song I heard was their cover of Tori Amos' "Winter", another was the cover of "Damage Inc." with Barney Greenway, and another was "Overture 1928". Quite a spread, right? It was kind of a Goldilocks situation, and the latter bowled me over. I started lurking occasionally on this forum at the time, but didn't sign up for a couple years after that, and wouldn't start posting more frequently for a few years after that.
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Up to 12
Dream Theater
At an erlier date in time they would have been my number 1 , now they are at number 8.
Been loving these guys since I sat on a late sunday / early monday watching Headbangers Ball and Wanessa Warwick presented Pull Me Under. Called my friend who was also watching and we were borh awestruck...
Bought the Album the next day. Saw them on tour a couple of months later in a very small club in Stockholm... jaw o the floor
They stll have it in them to move me and have even a few albums back presented something that to me surpassed all they have done before, the Astonishing.
They are the band I have seen most times live. Currently sitting at 14 times.
Just love them....
Not rated
Symphony X , Miles Davis, Avenged Sevenfold, Allagoch,
Scorpions, The Dear Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Halloween, Between the Buried and Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Big Big Train, Megadeath, Riverside, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Devin Townsend, Mastodon, Black Sabbath, Marillion, Judas Priest, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Haken, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Queensrÿche, Genesis, Porcupine Tree, Metallica, Iron Maiden
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24
23
22
21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
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19 Steven Wilson (favorite album: The Raven That Refused To Sing, favorite song: The Raven That Refused To Sing)
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
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16
15 Yes (Favorite album: Close to the Edge, favorite song:Roundabout)
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
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12 Rush (favorite album: Hold Your Fire, favorite song: 2112)
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10
9
8 Dream Theater (favorite album: the Astonishing, favorite song: Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence)
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6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
5 Pink Floyd (favorite album: Dark Side of the Moon, favorite song: Wish You Were Here)
4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
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I would have had Dream Theater at number 3. They and Porcupine Tree got of ping pong back and forth for the number 2 spot for me. Hard to believe they finished at number 1 on only eight lists.
I didn't return here in time to submit a list, but my top 25 would have been:
01 Rush
02 Porcupine Tree
03 Dream Theater
04 Neal Morse/Neal Morse Band
05 The Flower Kings
06 Pink Floyd
07 Devin Townsend
08 Blue Oyster Cult
09 Taylor Swift
10 Styx
11 Genesis
12 Yes
13 Queen
14 u2
15 Steven Wilson
16 Van Halen
17 Radiohead
18 Transatlantic
19 Muse
20 Spock's Beard
21 Led Zeppelin
22 The Moody Blues
23 The Beatles
24 Opeth
25 Camel
I could list a million honorable mentions, but ones that would have been in the next couple tiers include Black Sabbath, Peter Gabriel, Queensryche, Tears for Fears, David Bowie, Kansas, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Death Cab for Cutie, XTC, Ayreon, Dave Matthews Band and Billy Joel
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Kay... many thanks for doing this. It's a monumental effort on your part, and I'm glad you had fun doing it. And well timed to end right on Nov 30th! :tup
DT is 2b for me, and probably would've been a clear #2 if not for TA and A View. I just can't get in to those albums. Add on James' severe deterioration both live and in studio, and Rush edges them out for me.
Still, it's no contest as to who my Top 3 are. Always will be those three until I leave this pale blue dot. The band is *the* measuring stick for the genre, and clearly are/have been influencing new/newish bands for a very long time - so many bands that I love are accused of being DT clones. Often imitated, never duplicated. They are The Road Warriors of Prog Metal, and I'm looking forward to putting together my Top 100 list and revisiting their best years.
I can totally see people not ranking them, or having them down on their list if they missed the best years in real time. I mean, if you came in at any point after 8vm, then you're experiencing their B-material, along with the fact there were albums and bands that were replicating, and sometimes even out-innovating and out-performing them in the genre. Four of their albums make my Top 50, and they're all pre-2006.
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The list I submitted.
25: Kate Havnevik
24: TesseracT
23: All About Eve
22: Anathema (#36)
21: Spiritbox
20: Ayreon (#29)
19: Soilwork
18: Aghora
17: John Coltrane
16: Depeche Mode
15: Deadlock
14: Amorphis
13: Mercenary
12: Scar Symmetry
11: Aziza Mustafa Zadeh
10: Destiny Potato
9: Chelsea Wolfe
8: Draconian
7: All Ends
6: Nightingale
5: Kingfisher Sky
4: Autumn
3: Nevermore
2: Opeth (#16)
1: Katatonia (#39)
1/25, 4/50.
I'll post honorable mentions later.
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Love Weezer.
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DT is a firm #2 for me behind IQ
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My honorable mentions:
Almost making the cut, #26-#30:
*Bjork
*King's X
*Sevendust
*The Birthday Massacre
*Tool
#31-#59:
Anubis Gate, Assemblage 23, Dark Tranquillity, Daylight Dies, Delain, Devin Townsend, Dido, Drain S.T.H., Dream Theater, Emma Ruth Rundle, Evergrey, Iced Earth, Idle Cure, In Flames, Kings of Convenience, Lights, Marissa Nadler, mind.in.a.box, Nickel Creek, Nightrage, Oceans of Slumber, Phil Keaggy, PRVIS, Sade, Sybreed, To-Mera, Vanessa Carlton, Vertical Horizon, Whiteheart
Thanks to Reaper for hosting this. I'm glad he took me up on the idea, his sleep patterns are more regular than mine. :)
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Looking forward to the full list and the point totals each band/artist got!
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Looking forward to the full list and the point totals each band/artist got!
I know the total for at least one band.
My nr 1 got 25 points total.
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First off, thanks Reap. These threads are always so much fun, and I appreciate the dedication to the cause. You da man!
My journey to Dream Theater was not one of feverish obsession or a life changing moment, but more like a sunrise with the warm glow slowly settling over me.
I reckon the first time I heard DT was towards the end of 2006. I was sharing a flat with a buddy, and we had very similar musical tastes, and had turned each other onto numerous bands. In late 2006 the extent of my prog metal listening was probably some Opeth, Mastodon as well as ...and Justice for All.
My buddy Chris bought the Score DVD upon release, and even though I don't ever remember hearing him talk about the band, he apparently liked them. During the time of us living together I'd sampled most if his CD collection, and put everything i liked onto my mp3 player (which was mind blowing 20gb!). I'd heard of Dream Theater the way I got all my music knowledge back then, through Kerrang! and Metal Hammer magazines. I caught some of the live DVD with him one day, and although it didn't blow my mind it caught my interest.
The only CD he had at that time was Octavarium, so I stuck it on my mp3. I thought it was alright but at the time a 20+ minute song was preposterous to me. I probably listened to the title track once and then deleted it from my mp3 :lol
I would revisit it periodically but it never bowled me over. By mid 2007 I'd moved back home for a short period and I vividly remember reading an interview with Dragonforce guitarist Herman Li, and he was gushing over DT, and specifically Images & Words. I'd not heard the album at this point, but was aware it was a big deal. I loved Li, and remember him saying back in the 90s he used to listen to it every day. I thought, "well, I best pick it up then".
I got it and loved it! It takes me back to a specific time in my life. I was young, single, had loads of expendable cash and was just having a great time. I picked up Danzig's debut at the same time and used to play both albums on repeat whilst playing through Final Fantasy XII (good times).
I got Systematic Chaos as it also came out at the same time (it's always been a favourite of mine) followed by BC&SL. My interest dropped off after Portnoy left (not that they were ever a huge deal for me, so it wasn't because he left), and I still only had those 4 albums at that point.
Around 2012, when I was travelling the world, I had a bit of a renaissance with the band and started listening to them loads. I went all in and downloaded all their albums up to the departure of Portnoy, and devoured them. Some I loved, some I didn't but slowly the band crept up my all time favourites list.
2014 saw a second renaissance, which led to DTF. I was really obsessed for a good 6 months, and was playing Metropolis Pt2 almost daily. My interest in prog metal took off as well and I caught up with the newer DT albums as well (also fell hard for Illumination Theory).
So here we are today. I don't listen to the band constantly, but I know their albums really well now and revisit them fairly regularly. I wasn't sure they make my top 25, but they deserve to be in there. When reeling off my favourite bands they rarely spring to mind, but when I compare them with most bands, I realise they often come out on top.
Here's my final ranking...
NR:
Miles Davis
Symphony X
Agalloch
King Crimson
Scorpions
Frank Zappa
Evergrey
UFO
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Nightwish
Katatonia
Helloween
Between the Buried and Me
Anathema
Radiohead
Big Big Train
Peter Gabriel
Riverside
KISS
Ayreon
Spock's Beard
Neal Morse
Pain of Salvation
Queen
Tool
Black Sabbath
Transatlantic
Marillion
Yes
Van Halen
Steven Wilson
Fates Warning
Haken
Queensyche
Genesis
Pink Floyd
Porcupine Tree
Iron Maiden
Rush
25. Avenged Sevenfold (Favourite Album: City of Evil. Favourite Song: Cosmic)
24. King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard(Favourite Album: Omnium Gatherum. Favourite Song: The Dripping Tap)
23. Devin Townsend (Favourite Album: Really hard to pick, but today I'll say Terria. Favourite Song: Kingdom or Deep Peace)
22. Led Zeppelin (Favourite Album: Led Zeppelin I. Favourite Song: Babe I'm Gonna Leave You)
21. My Chemical Romance (Favourite Album: The Black Parade. Favourite Song: Dead!)
20. Frank Turner (Favourite Album: England Keep My Bones. Favourite Song: Photosynthesis)
19. Dream Theater (Favourite Album: Metropolis Pt.2. Favourite Song: The Spirit Carries On)
18. The Beatles (Favourite Album: Abbey Road. Favourite Song: Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End)
17. Blink-182 (Favourite Album: Blink-182. Favourite Song: Feeling This)
16. Rancid (Favourite Album: ...And Out Come the Wolves. Favourite Song: Roots Radicals)
15. Machine Head (Favourite Album: The Blackening. Favourite Song: Halo)
14. Trivium (Favourite Album: Shogun. Favourite Song: Shogun)
13. Green Day (Favourite Album: Insomniac. Favourite Song: Hitching a Ride)
12. Bad Religion (Favourite Album: The Process of Belief. Favourite Song: Epiphany)
11. The Dear Hunter (Favourite Album: Act IV: Rebirth in Reprise. Favourite Song: Home/A Night on the Town)
10. Slayer (Favourite Album: Reign in Blood. Favourite Song: Postmortem)
9. Megadeth (Favourite Album: Rust in Peace. Favourite Song: Washington is Next!)
8. Mastodon (Favourite Album: Blood Mountain. Favourite Song: Too many to choose, but currently Gigantium)
7. Pantera (Favourite Album: Vulga4 Display of Power. Favourite Song: Mouth for War)
6. Opeth (Favourite Album: Ghost Reveries. Favourite Song: )
5. Children of Bodom(Favourite Album: Follow the Reaper. Favourite Song: Downfall)
4. Nobuo Uematsu(Favourite Album: Distant Worlds II: More Music From Final Fantasy. Favourite Song: Main Theme of Final Fantasy VII)
3. NOFX (Favourite Album: Wolves in Wolves Clothing. Favourite Song: The Decline)
2. Metallica (Favourite Album: Ride the Lightning. Favourite Song: The Call of Ktulu (S&M Version))
1. Coheed and Cambria (Favourite Album: Good Apollo I’m Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness. Favourite Song: Willing Well Suite)
Nice, I had 11 make the final list.
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Kev, good to see BOC high on your list. I had them #24.
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I had DT at #25, but with some new discoveries I've made in the recent months, they're closer to #30 now :lol
But yeah, thanks for making this Reap!
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Come on then, who didn't have them on their list?
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Apparently 4 out of 46. :blush ;D
I'll own up to be the second person. ;D
Would be Top 25 pre The Astonishing - but that album and the two following it haven't done much for me.
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Thank you Reap!! This was a lot more fun than I thought it would be!! I kinda want to see the FULL list of all 200+ bands that got a vote.
Here’s mine:
1. Rush
2. IQ
3. Haken
4. Pink Floyd
5. Porcupine Tree
6. Tom Waits
7. Dream Theater
8. Fates Warning
9. Frank Zappa
10. Jethro Tull
11. Tool
12. Between the Buried and Me
13. Primus
14. Genesis
15. Led Zeppelin
16. Yes
17. Steven Wilson
18. Queensryche
19. The Beatles
20. OSI
21. Spock’s Beard
22. Pain of Salvation
23. Riverside
24. Voivod
25. Prince
Dream Theater slipped down to the 7 spot over the last 15 years or so. Octavarium was absolutely perfection to me. But SC was a HUGE drop off in quality and everything since then has been spotty. The self titled and A View have been highlights, but even those never did as much for me as most of the IAW-8V material.
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Many thanks to Reaper for running this one. Been a ton of fun!
I sneaked DT onto my list at 25. They were my first real favorite band and were massively influential on me in terms of the music I listen to today. But at this point I mostly just listen to I&W through FII, which remains the band’s golden period for me. Starting with SFAM (the first new release after I got into them), I found myself liking each album less than the last one, and by the time Octavarium came around, I realized my tastes had really diverged from what they were doing. And then Systematic Chaos came out and the first song they released was a hard “nope” for me. The thrill was gone unfortunately and it’s never come back. That said, I’m holding out some hope that the MP reunion will reinvigorate the band and lead to a return to classic form in some way.
But I did want to acknowledge how influential DT were to me, and how much I still admire that early run. The band just reached massive heights and everyone was a true monster on their instrument while still writing interesting songs and compelling music (not just wankery). DT were for me kind of the anti-Metallica. They weren’t really into the image or cliches of metal. They embraced melody and a wide sound palette that included keyboards and ballads and actual singing while still having a lot of heaviness in their music. There was a metal aspect there that I liked as a teenager, but it was much less about the heaviness and more about the musicianship and ability to emote beyond grunts and screams that I loved. That seemed to disappear over time as they embraced metal more closely unfortunately.
In my mind, I kind of include the first two LTE albums in that run for DT where I was really a huge fan. Looking back at that period, they created so much great music from WDADU through SDOIT (the last album that I really liked a good portion of), that if that was all they did they would probably still be high on my list.
There were a half dozen bands I considered for the last spot, but DT ultimately seemed the most appropriate for that nod.
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I had DT at #25, but with some new discoveries I've made in the recent months, they're closer to #30 now :lol
I guess you're younger than most here, but it's hard to imagine new discoveries in the last few months pushing much down from that high on an all-time list. It's fascinating to see how people approach it differently though.
The only example I had close to that was Spiritbox, that I got into 2-3 years ago, but I've just been kind of obsessed with them since then, and was also factoring in the latest EP earlier this month bringing about more new material and a bit more binging, which both happened to make it feel more justified.
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24. King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard(Favourite Album: Omnium Gatherum. Favourite Song: The Dripping Tap)
This just doesn't seem right. Are you sure you didn't misplace a decimal spot and it's #2.4?
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Finally we reach number 1, and really is it a surprise this band finished number 1? I mean the forum is kind of named after them :lol
01. Dream Theater
Rate Your Music Profile! (https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/rush)
Spotify Profile (https://open.spotify.com/artist/2aaLAng2L2aWD2FClzwiep?si=0uZ-R2N5Q5KirLRIGj4xJw)
Monthly Spotify Streams: 1,531,901
Highest Finish: 1 (Dream Team, devieira73, Trav86, nobloodyname, Setlist Scotty, CharlesPL, bosk1, MustActFastToCoverUp)
Number of top 10 finishes: 36
Number of Lists appeared on: 42 (coz, DragonAttack, Dream Team, DTwwbwMP, HOF, jingle.boy, Metropolaris, pg1067, ReaperKK, romdrums, Stadler, SwedishGose, TAC, twosuitsluke, wolfking, devieira73, Vmadera00, Dave_Manchester, Zydar, jammindude, King Puppies and the Acid Guppies, The Letter M, PMSummer, Buddyhunter1, Trav86, nobloodyname, Fonzie, Sacul, Setlist Scotty, CharlesPL, WilliamMunny, Nactmerrie, The Great Zo, Lethean, WardySI, SomoneLikeHim, elefantStone, Evermind, bosk1, Zoom E, MustActFastToCoverUp, nick_z)
I love DT, they were my personal number 8. I'll never forget the day I heard The Glass Prison and just getting my face melted. The have a huge discography which I mostly love and they're a band that I won't miss live as long as they come somewhat near me.
NR: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Agalloch, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, UFO, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Helloween, Between The Buried And Me, Anathema, Radiohead, Peter Gabriel, Megadeth, Pain Of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed And Cambria, Mastodon, Tool, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Opeth, Van Halen, Fates Warning, Led Zeppelin, Queensryche, Metallica, Iron Maiden
30 Emerson Lake & Palmer
29 King Crimson
28 Marillion
27 The Beatles
26 Queen
25 Liquid Tension Experiment
24 IQ
23 Muse
22 Pink Floyd
21 Kansas
20 Riverside
19 Moon Safari
18 Unitopia
17 Flying Colors
16 Pattern-Seeking Animals
15 Frost*
14 Steven Wilson
13 Yes
12 Genesis
11 The Flower Kings
10 Ayreon
09 Haken
08 Porcupine Tree
07 Neal Morse
06 Spock's Beard
05 Dream Theater
04 Rush
03 Transatlantic
02 The Tangent
01 Big Big Train
DT landed at number five for me, just behind Rush. During the first half of my prog journey, those two were the top two bands for me and I listened to them quite a lot, but since 2012 or so, my listed top three kind of overtook them. I still love both Rush and DT though!
The bolded bands were the ones that made it into the top 50. If I include the 26-30 that weren't technically submitted into the countdown, my total is 19 out of my top 30, but since they don't really count, it's 14 if my top 25. I definitely picked some lesser known/listened to prog bands there but in recent years, I'd say I like them a lot more than my 26-30.
I'm not surprised that TFK didn't make it, but IQ? Muse? I guess they didn't quite make the cut for any placement above 50. I hope we get to see how all 400+ submitted artists place so I can see my number two band all the way at the bottom. I'll be surprised if anyone else submitted The Tangent. :lol
-Marc.
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24. King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard(Favourite Album: Omnium Gatherum. Favourite Song: The Dripping Tap)
This just doesn't seem right. Are you sure you didn't misplace a decimal spot and it's #2.4?
Nah, it's just the same as your recent obsession with Spiritbox dude. I've been more vocal about them in the last year and a half but if you'd have been hanging out with me for the last 20 years it's nothing compared to some of the gushing you'd have heard over the 23 bands who placed above them :lol
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Agreed with Marc - IQ and TFK not making it surprises me. My biggerst shock though was Avantasia. I was sure there were enough fans around here that they'd be pushed to the Top 50 at least. Frost* is a bit of a surprise too.
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25 Oceansize
24 Steven Wilson
23 Thank You Scientist
22 Tool
21 Perturbator
20 death's dynamic shroud
19 The Ocean
18 Anamanaguchi
17 Thy Catafalque
16 Riverside
15 Dir En Grey
14 Ulver
13 Anathema
12 Greet Death
11 Ihsahn
10 David Maxim Micic
9 Between The Buried And Me
8 Periphery
7 Strapping Young Lad
6 Gojira
5 Opeth
4 Agalloch
3 Porcupine Tree
2 Dream Theater
1 Devin Townsend
A lot of my list is pretty niche to my tastes, so I'm not surprised at most of the bands who didn't rank.
It would have been nice to see Ulver on there - Sacul ranked them pretty highly too. But they're definitely a bit experimental for a list like this. :lol
Likewise, David Maxim Micic maybe would have had a chance if Litho didn't vote for Destiny Potato instead like a lunatic (har har).
If the overall tastes of the forum skewed a bit more towards extreme metal, I bet Gojira, Periphery, and Ihsahn would have made it.
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I'll be curious to see if The Flower Kings would have made it had I gotten my list in and my 5th place finish counted.
I'm also curious to see how well some major legends like The Who, Bowie, The Rolling Stones and Elton John faired.
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Love Weezer.
:metal
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21 Perturbator
If this had been a few years ago I probably would have had him on my honorable mentions list, he was kind of at the center of my synthwave explorations. Still love most of his work, but my interest has cooled down slightly.
It would have been nice to see Ulver on there - Sacul ranked them pretty highly too. But they're definitely a bit experimental for a list like this. :lol
I like almost all their stuff, maybe they'd have been in a top 150 list. Shadows of the Sun will be on my top albums list though, that album had a seismic shift on my tastes.
Likewise, David Maxim Micic maybe would have had a chance if Litho didn't vote for Destiny Potato instead like a lunatic (har har).
Yeah, I get the feeling that you, Sacul, Crow, and maybe a couple others are more Bilo III people, for the more orchestral-ish side of his work. I'm more into the synergy between him and Aleksandra, which is best illustrated on LUN. I'm still factoring his solo work into my ranking, and he winds up at #10 on both of our lists in some form or another. :D
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25 Oceansize
24 Steven Wilson
23 Thank You Scientist
22 Tool
21 Perturbator
20 death's dynamic shroud
19 The Ocean
18 Anamanaguchi
17 Thy Catafalque
16 Riverside
15 Dir En Grey
14 Ulver
13 Anathema
12 Greet Death
11 Ihsahn
10 David Maxim Micic
9 Between The Buried And Me
8 Periphery
7 Strapping Young Lad
6 Gojira
5 Opeth
4 Agalloch
3 Porcupine Tree
2 Dream Theater
1 Devin Townsend
A lot of my list is pretty niche to my tastes, so I'm not surprised at most of the bands who didn't rank.
It would have been nice to see Ulver on there - Sacul ranked them pretty highly too. But they're definitely a bit experimental for a list like this. :lol
Likewise, David Maxim Micic maybe would have had a chance if Litho didn't vote for Destiny Potato instead like a lunatic (har har).
If the overall tastes of the forum skewed a bit more towards extreme metal, I bet Gojira, Periphery, and Ihsahn would have made it.
Out of your list the only artists I don't listen to are Perturbator, death's dynamic shroud, Anamanaguchi and Greet Death. All the rest would definitely make my top 100, and a good portion my top 50.
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It would have been nice to see Ulver on there - Sacul ranked them pretty highly too. But they're definitely a bit experimental for a list like this. :lol
Would have been cool to see them somewhere else as well. ;)
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It would have been nice to see Ulver on there - Sacul ranked them pretty highly too. But they're definitely a bit experimental for a list like this. :lol
Would have been cool to see them somewhere else as well. ;)
:lol They weren't on my shortlist, but I might have wound up sending something from The Assassination Of Julius Caesar if there were more rounds. Just listen to that album on your own time. :biggrin:
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When I first listen to DT in 92/93 they became almost immediately my fave band of all the time and still are until this day. The way they blent the best things made in rock and heavy music in the 70's and 80's (and continued in the 90's and 00's) with amazing intrumental quality blew my mind right away. And to hear Images and Words for the first time in an AMAZING sound system of a friend of mine at the time did elevate all the impact for sure! What was that PMU intro, just musical perfection!! :metal :hefdaddy :heart
And the coolest thing was that this friend of mine discovered DT by a recommendation made by Bruce Dickinson (DT was cited by him "as the best rock band nowadays") when he was interviewed in a brazilian rock radio program at the time.
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It would have been nice to see Ulver on there - Sacul ranked them pretty highly too. But they're definitely a bit experimental for a list like this. :lol
Would have been cool to see them somewhere else as well. ;)
:lol They weren't on my shortlist, but I might have wound up sending something from The Assassination Of Julius Caesar if there were more rounds. Just listen to that album on your own time. :biggrin:
And my favorite Ulver stuff is a bit too close to the Bjork song I sent that he hated, so no chance would I have considered them after that. :lol
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25. The Killers
24. Iron Maiden
23. Opeth
22. Dream Theater
21. Angel Olsen
20. 65daysofstatic
19. Daft Punk
18. Bruce Springsteen
17. Kent
16. The Tallest Man on Earth
15. Bon Iver
14. Godspeed you! Black Emperor
13. Anathema
12. John Mayer
11. Thomas Dybdahl
10. Sigur Rós
09. Damien Rice
08. Pain of Salvation
07. Taylor Swift
06. Brand New
05. Jeff Buckley
04. Porcupine Tree
03. Pink Floyd
02. The National
01. Radiohead
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21. Angel Olsen
17. Kent
12. John Mayer
09. Damien Rice
Some cool less common picks there.
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21. Angel Olsen
17. Kent
12. John Mayer
09. Damien Rice
Some cool less common picks there.
Yea I drifted away from rock/metal for a while and got really into singer/songwritery stuff. Kent is a Swedish band that I really enjoy despite not understanding most of the lyrics.
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25. The Killers
24. Iron Maiden
23. Opeth
22. Dream Theater
21. Angel Olsen
20. 65daysofstatic
19. Daft Punk
18. Bruce Springsteen
17. Kent
16. The Tallest Man on Earth
15. Bon Iver
14. Godspeed you! Black Emperor
13. Anathema
12. John Mayer
11. Thomas Dybdahl
10. Sigur Rós
09. Damien Rice
08. Pain of Salvation
07. Taylor Swift
06. Brand New
05. Jeff Buckley
04. Porcupine Tree
03. Pink Floyd
02. The National
01. Radiohead
Um, yeah, we can swap libraries any time!
Massive love for Thomas Dybdahl, Damien Rice, and Angel Olsen!
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You mean it wasn't Taylor Swift?!?!?!?! :facepalm:
Seriously, kudos to you Reap for doing this. Was a lot of fun to read and see what the general consensus was among the fans or at least those who participated. Any chance you might post the full list now? Would be interesting to see all the different band/artists and how they ranked beyond the top 50.
edit: Here's my list
25. The Crystal Method
24. Garbage
23. Thin Lizzy
22. Van Halen
21. Scorpions
20. Queen
19. Oceansize
18. Muse
17. The Cure
16. Led Zeppelin
15. Depeche Mode
14. Transatlantic
13. Weird Al Yankovic
12. OSI
11. Metallica
10. Jolly
9. Liquid Tension Experiment
8. Threshold
7. Fates Warning
6. Iron Maiden
5. Porcupine Tree
4. Queensryche
3. Riverside
2. Rush
1. Dream Theater
I got 11 of the top 25, and another 2 in the top 50.
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My list...
25 The Beths
24 Vennart
23 Aerosmith
22 Queensryche
21 Stone Temple Pilots
20 Rollins Band
19 Tool
18 Pearl Jam
17 Led Zeppelin
16 Matthew Good
15 Van Halen
14 Kiss
13 Soundgarden
12 Haken
11 Failure
10 Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
9 Jeff Buckley
8 Def Leppard
7 Gregory Alan Isakov
6 Portishead
5 Radiohead
4 REM
3 Journey
2 Dream Theater
1 Miles Davis
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My list...
25 The Beths
24 Vennart
23 Aerosmith
22 Queensryche
21 Stone Temple Pilots
20 Rollins Band
19 Tool
18 Pearl Jam
17 Led Zeppelin
16 Matthew Good
15 Van Halen
14 Kiss
13 Soundgarden
12 Haken
11 Failure
10 Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
9 Jeff Buckley
8 Def Leppard
7 Gregory Alan Isakov
6 Portishead
5 Radiohead
4 REM
3 Journey
2 Dream Theater
1 Miles Davis
Nice list. I like Vennart but surprised not to see Oceansize here as well, I always assume Vennart fans will be even bigger Oceansize fans.
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Um, yeah, we can swap libraries any time!
Massive love for Thomas Dybdahl, Damien Rice, and Angel Olsen!
Hell yeah, almost never see Dybdahl mentioned! Will need to check out some from your list. For now I've been spinning some Miles Davis since he came up in this thread and really enjoying it (I haven't branched out much from Kind of Blue though)
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24. Garbage
17. The Cure
15. Depeche Mode
More nice and less common picks there.
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11 for 11.
10 for 10.
9 for 9.
8 for 8.
7 for 7.
6 for 6.
5 for 5.
4 for 4.
I made a prediction the other day with 11 bands/artists left and so far I'm 3 for 3.
-Dream Theater
-Genesis
-Haken
-Iron Maiden
-Led Zeppelin
-Metallica
-Pink Floyd
-Porcupine Tree
-Queensryche
-Rush
-The Beatles
that being said, if these are all correct, than there were some pretty big snubs considering some of the names that made the list already.
I started to make a Top Snub prediction list the other day, but never finished it. I'm curious to see where many fell.
As I mentioned previously, I didn't participate per I struggled a little too much who to include after the Top 12. I guess in hindsight, I could have just made a list of 50-100+ names and used pubmeeple, but I didn't have the time unfortunately.
Off the top of my head, many of the Snubs that come to mind:
-Liquid Tension Experiment
-Jethro Tull
-The Who
-The Rolling Stones
-Bob Dylan
-Oceansize
-dredg
-Muse
-King's X
-Faith No More
-Prince
-Michael Jackson
-U2
-Savatage
-Gentle Giant
-Renaissance
-Kevin Gilbert
-Jeff Buckley
-Meshuggah
-The Mars Volta
-System of a Down
-Protest the Hero
-King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard
-Deep Purple
-XTC
-Jellyfish
-Tears for Fears
-Pure Reason Revolution
-Fair to Midland
-Return to Forever
-Mahavishnu Orchestra
-Mew
-Sigur Ros
-Emerson Lake and Palmer
-Ozzy Osbourne
-Dio
-Kansas
-Styx
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Gonna break my list down into three categories.
I. The artists who made the top 50 (8):
25. Dream Theater
19. King Crimson
8. Peter Gabriel
7. Spock's Beard
4. Rush
3. Genesis
2. Big Big Train
1. Marillion
II. The artists who maybe could have appeared on a few others' lists (11):
24. Camel
23. Moon Safari
18. Eric Johnson
17. Phil Collins
16. Talk Talk
15. The Flower Kings
14. Tears for Fears
13. Enchant
12. King's X
10. Journey
9. Mr. Big
III. The artists who most likely only appeared on my list (6)
22. Field Music
21. The Clientele
20. Counting Crows
11. Sweet Billy Pilgrim
6. Kip Winger
5. The Blue Nile
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My biggerst shock though was Avantasia. I was sure there were enough fans around here that they'd be pushed to the Top 50 at least.
Yeah.
1. Ayreon
2. Pink Floyd
3. Avantasia
4. Blind Guardian
5. Dream Theater
6. Haken
7. Nightwish
8. Kamelot
9. Steven Wilson
10. Seventh Wonder
11. Pain of Salvation
12. Leprous
13. Sonata Arctica
14. Dire Straits
15. Helloween
16. Riverside
17. Katatonia
18. Evergrey
19. Rainbow
20. Opeth
21. Porcupine Tree
22. Fates Warning
23. Jethro Tull
24. Iron Maiden
25. Judas Priest
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My list...
25 The Beths
24 Vennart
23 Aerosmith
22 Queensryche
21 Stone Temple Pilots
20 Rollins Band
19 Tool
18 Pearl Jam
17 Led Zeppelin
16 Matthew Good
15 Van Halen
14 Kiss
13 Soundgarden
12 Haken
11 Failure
10 Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
9 Jeff Buckley
8 Def Leppard
7 Gregory Alan Isakov
6 Portishead
5 Radiohead
4 REM
3 Journey
2 Dream Theater
1 Miles Davis
Nice list. I like Vennart but surprised not to see Oceansize here as well, I always assume Vennart fans will be even bigger Oceansize fans.
Oceansize is most definitely on the bubble, but at this point, Vennart has surpassed his former band's work IMO.
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I had Dream Theater at #5.
After my journey into prog started off with Kansas (#1) and Rush (#2), Dream Theater was the third band I checked out. I purchased SFAM in 2001 and Overture 1928 pretty much blew my face off.
The entire run from I&W to Octavarium is just spectacular, with Awake, SFAM, and Octavarium as my three favorites. As others have said, it's been spotty since then. I'm looking forward to see if Portnoy's return increases my interest in the band.
If I'd done this ranking about 15 years ago, Dream Theater would have ranked even higher, but Transatlantic (#3) and Spock's Beard (#4) have meant more to me over the years.
Favorite song: Octavarium
Favorite song nobody else cares about: The Way It Used To Be
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Since we are posting lists here is mine:
25 Red Hot Chili Peppers
24 The Aristocrats
23 Metallica
22 Dave Matthews Band
21 Elton John
20 Ludovico Einaudi
19 Foo Fighters
18 Moon Tooth
17 Alice In Chains
16 Jakub Zytecki
15 Deftones
14 Kings Of Convenience
13 Dire Straits
12 Animals As Leaders
11 Rush
10 Porcupine Tree
9 Michael Kelsey
8 Dream Theater
7 Tool
6 Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
5 Pink Floyd
4 Kaki King
3 Fair To Midland
2 Dredg
1 Incubus
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Favorite song nobody else cares about: The Way It Used To Be
Top 10 DT song for me.
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First of all a huge thank you to Reap.... this has been fun
Second, since everyone are posting their listd I'll play along.
Might follow up later with a short write up on the red ones...
25 Moon Safari (favorite album: Lovers End, favorite song: Heartland)
24 Fish (favorite album: Vigil In A Wilderness of Mirrors, favorite song: The High Wood)
23 Hansson de Wolfe United (favorite album: Iskalla Killen (Full Av Mänsklig Värme), favorite song: Var Kommer Barnen In?)
22 Kaipa (favorite album: Sattyg, favorite song: A Map of Your Secret World)
21 Transatlatic (favorite album: The Absolute Universe - Forevermore, favorite song: Duel With the Devil)
20 Gojira (favorite album: From Mars to Sirius, favorite song: Flying Whales)
19 Steven Wilson (favorite album: The Raven That Refused To Sing, favorite song: The Raven That Refused To Sing)
18 Queen (favorite album: Innuendo favorite song: The Show Must Go On)
17 The Neal Morse Band (favorite album: The Great Adventure, favorite song: Breath of Angels)
16 Jellyfish (favorite album: Bellybutyon, favorite song: Joining a Fanclub)
15 Yes (Favorite album: Close to the Edge, favorite song:Roundabout)
14 Opeth (Favorite album: In Cauda Veneum (swedish), favorite song: Deliverance)
13 The Violet Hour (favorite album: The Fire Sermon, favorite song: Dream of Me)
12 Rush (favorite album: Hold Your Fire, favorite song: 2112)
11 iamthemorning (favorite album: Lighthouse, favorite song: 5/4)
10 A.C.T (favorite album: The Last Epic favorite song: Personalities)
9 Kate Bush (favorite album: Hounds of Love, favorite song: Baboshka)
8 Dream Theater (favorite album: the Astonishing, favorite song: Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence)
7 IQ (favorite album: Ever, favorite song: Road Of Bones)
6 Pain of Salvation (favorite album: BE, favorite song: Undertow)
5 Pink Floyd (favorite album: Dark Side of the Moon, favorite song: Wish You Were Here)
4 Ayreon (favorite album: The Human Equation, favorite song: Valley of the Queens)
3 Peter Gabriel (favorite album: US, favorite song: Here Comes The Flood)
2 King Crimson (favorite album: Red, favorite song: Starless)
1 City Boy (favorite album: The Day The Earth Caught Fire, favorite song: Life On The Balcony)
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21. Angel Olsen
17. Kent
12. John Mayer
09. Damien Rice
Some cool less common picks there.
Yea I drifted away from rock/metal for a while and got really into singer/songwritery stuff. Kent is a Swedish band that I really enjoy despite not understanding most of the lyrics.
They did make English versions of two of their albums Isola and Hagnesta Hill. Randomly the lead singer also has song writing credits on the most recent Ghost album.
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If I were around to play, sticking to acts under the rock umbrella:
1. Deep Purple
2. Dream Theater
3. The Beatles
4. Pink Floyd
5. King Crimson
6. Led Zeppelin
7. Jethro Tull
8. Iron Maiden
9. Rainbow
10. Rory Gallagher
11. Gentle Giant
12. Genesis
13. Billy Joel
14. Elton John
15. The Who
16. Dire Straits
17. Supertramp
18. Faith No More
19. Black Sabbath
20. Metallica
21. Neal Morse
22. Transatlantic
23. Tom Waits
24. Muse
25. Soundgarden
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Favorite song nobody else cares about: The Way It Used To Be
Top 10 DT song for me.
Same. Absolutely love this song as well.
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No offense intended to Indiscipline, but I’m pleasantly surprised that Muse didn’t make the top 50. They were the hot band for a minute back in the day who I could never stand the sound of!
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20 Gojira (favorite album: From Mars to Sirius, favorite song: Flying Whales)
:metal
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20 Gojira (favorite album: From Mars to Sirius, favorite song: Flying Whales)
:metal
Soo awesome live as well :metal
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I had DT at #25, but with some new discoveries I've made in the recent months, they're closer to #30 now :lol
I guess you're younger than most here, but it's hard to imagine new discoveries in the last few months pushing much down from that high on an all-time list. It's fascinating to see how people approach it differently though.
The only example I had close to that was Spiritbox, that I got into 2-3 years ago, but I've just been kind of obsessed with them since then, and was also factoring in the latest EP earlier this month bringing about more new material and a bit more binging, which both happened to make it feel more justified.
I mean, they've just been amazing discoveries and I've been quite obsessed with them so they're definitely new car smell. And I also haven't really listened to DT in a long while, so that made me rethink my own rankings.
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20 Gojira (favorite album: From Mars to Sirius, favorite song: Flying Whales)
:metal
Soo awesome live as well :metal
That's honestly one of the reasons I ranked them so high. My placements are determined by studio albums first and foremost, but if a band is particularly exceptional live, as is Gojira, that might bump them up a few spots for me. That's also probably why I have Thank You Scientist ranked.
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No offense intended to Indiscipline, but I’m pleasantly surprised that Muse didn’t make the top 50. They were the hot band for a minute back in the day who I could never stand the sound of!
None taken! Alas, I'm not their manager.
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My top 25, with consensus rankings in parenthesis.
25. Enchant
24. No-Man
23. Metallica (#4)
22. Blinker the Star
21. Electric Light Orchestra
20. Howard Jones
19. Peter Gabriel (#33t)
18. Tiles
17. Pat Metheny Group
16. Thank You Scientist
15. King's X
14. Liquid Tension Experiment
13. Yes (#15)
12. Level 42
11. Genesis (#7)
10. Steely Dan
9. Frost*
8. The Flower Kings
7. Haken (#11)
6. Porcupine Tree (#5)
5. Dream Theater (#1)
4. Spock's Beard (#28)
3. Transatlantic (#19)
2. Rush (#2)
1. Kansas
Comments on the rest of my top 10...
Can't live without Kansas, it's where it all started for me. Leftoverture is my #1 all-time album. The entire first run of 6 or 7 albums is essential for me. Even amongst other fans of progressive rock, I think Kansas's prog peak is greatly underappreciated. I struggle with the 80s output, and with Steve Walsh's voice after he returned, and yet Kansas is my easy #1 even still. The current version of the band, while basically a cover band at this point, sounds amazing live.
TFK would have been Top 5 for me 15 years ago. I have such a strong connection to a few of their albums (Stardust We Are, Unfold the Future, Paradox Hotel are probably my favorites) but the recent revival of the band hasn't done much for me.
Frost* is a band where I'm just excited to see what kind of swerve they're gonna take next, because each album is a bit different, but they always just feel fresh and new. Truly love all 4 of their releases. One of the funniest bands I've seen live, too.
Steely Dan is such a remarkable blend of incredible musicianship, tight songwriting, and ridiculously sardonic wit. Sometimes I feel like this entire band is one huge inside joke. There's a learning curve with them if you dive beyond the hits, but it's worth it.
Have to mention Level 42 as well. Such an interesting mix of punchy fusion and lush synthpop, and depending on which era of the band you go for, you can get more or less of either element. Mark King should get so much more credit for his bass skills. Level 42 is also my highest-ranked band I have not seen live.
I feel like I got most of my prog favorites in my top 25. If I'd ranked an entire top 50, my 26-50 would probably have a lot more from the 80s.
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01. Dream Theater
My #2 band, and they've been in my top 3 (along with Rush and Fates Warning) since day 1. Hearing PMU on the radio in the summer of '92 and then buying the album and discovering a bunch of songs that were even better?! I must've played that CD thousands of times in the second half of 1992. Just amazing stuff.
1. Rush (2)
2. Dream Theater (1)
3. Fates Warning (12)
4. Iron Maiden (3)
5. Yes (15)
6. Judas Priest (17)
7. Queensryche (8)
8. Styx
9. Kansas
10. Triumph
11. Genesis (7)
12. Metallica (4)
13. Helloween (38)
14. UFO (42)
15. Led Zeppelin (10)
16. The Beatles (9)
17. ELP
18. Dio
19. Black Sabbath (20)
20. Anthrax
21. YYNOT
22. Jethro Tull
23. Ozzy Osbourne
24. Scorpions (46T)
25. Journey
Not ranked: Miles Davis, Symphony X, Algalloch, Avenged Sevenfold, King Crimson, The Deer Hunter, Frank Zappa, Evergrey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Nightwish, Katatonia, Anathema, Between the Buried..., Radiohead, Big Big Train, Peter Gabriel, Megadeath, Riverside, KISS, Ayreon, Spock's Beard, Neal Morse, Pain of Salvation, Devin Townsend, Coheed & Cambria, Mastodon, Queen, Tool, Transatlantic, Marillion, Opeth, Van Halen (36), Steven Wilson, Haken, Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree
The only artist on my list that I'm a little surprised didn't crack the top 50 is Ozzy. A little less surprised with Dio.
THANKS to Reaper for running this!
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Muse might have made my list 10 years ago. Their last couple of albums have been so bad they’ve completely killed my interest in the band. Didn’t even consider them when putting my list together.
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09. Damien Rice
Recognised the name but it took me a while to place where:
Tori Amos - The Power of Orange Knickers
Only song I have heard with him singing I think.
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My top 25, with consensus rankings in parenthesis.
25. Enchant
24. No-Man
23. Metallica (#4)
22. Blinker the Star
21. Electric Light Orchestra
20. Howard Jones
19. Peter Gabriel (#33t)
18. Tiles
17. Pat Metheny Group
16. Thank You Scientist
15. King's X
14. Liquid Tension Experiment
13. Yes (#15)
12. Level 42
11. Genesis (#7)
10. Steely Dan
9. Frost*
8. The Flower Kings
7. Haken (#11)
6. Porcupine Tree (#5)
5. Dream Theater (#1)
4. Spock's Beard (#28)
3. Transatlantic (#19)
2. Rush (#2)
1. Kansas
I find it very odd Kansas didn’t appear in the top 50 especially after seeing you give it a number 1 ranking.
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Well, thanks for running this, Reaper, it was fun to follow, although I got lazy in commenting on the rankings.
It may be kind of uninspired to put DT on #1 on this forum, but it is what it is. They are the most important band on my personal musical journey, from the first seconds of PMU I listened to over 30 years ago (oh boy, time flies...) up until this very day.
I want to give a brief shoutout to three bands from my list that didn't rank:
#2 Motorpsycho. My other favourite band besides DT, irritatingly officially abbreviated "MP". You King Gizzard disciples may consider checking them out if you haven't already. Very jammy and a wide variety of styles covered, but always very recognizable. Great liveband, too, far fom perfect, but you always get the feeling you witnessed something special. I guess the vocals are of the kind you need to get used to.
#6 Voivod. Turned out to become my favourite band from the thrash era. From noisy thrash punk to kind of avantgarde rock, I like all of their stuff. Their "new" guitarist is awesome and their latest albums The Wake and Synchro Anarchy are really good.
#18 No Means No. I guess they're labeled "Punk", but that doesn't do them justice. Intelligent, uncompromising, nonconform music. A blast to watch live, too, but unfortunately not active anymore.
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Off the top of my head, many of the Snubs that come to mind:
-dredg
-King's X
-Savatage
-Gentle Giant
-Renaissance
-Kevin Gilbert
-Jeff Buckley
-Tears for Fears
-Pure Reason Revolution
-Fair to Midland
-Return to Forever
-Mahavishnu Orchestra
Particular standouts from that list, Renaissance, Kevin Gilbert, Jeff Buckley, all artists I've gained much appreciation for from my roulette, but don't have nearly the listening time sunk in to consider for a top 25 (and Buckley has such a tiny catalog of material). All the others are artists I quite like, but wouldn't fit until a top 75/100/125, etc. King's X came so close to making my own list though.
16 Jakub Zytecki
14 Kings Of Convenience
4 Kaki King
More great and unusual choices.
22 Kaipa
11 iamthemorning
9 Kate Bush
Same, and this in particular is interesting given that most of the lists are almost exclusively male-dominated. Kate is sometimes the token exception on similar lists, but even she can't make it here.
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Muse might have made my list 10 years ago. Their last couple of albums have been so bad they’ve completely killed my interest in the band. Didn’t even consider them when putting my list together.
It's weird how this happens. Theoretically, if you like earlier albums, those are set in stone. Nothing else that happens changes the content on them. But it seems that sometimes if bands continually release inferior music in the future, this sours even their earlier output to some extent sometimes. My version of this is In Flames, who would have been far higher 15-20 years ago, and now are relegated to an honorable mention.
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22 Kaipa
11 iamthemorning
9 Kate Bush
Same, and this in particular is interesting given that most of the lists are almost exclusively male-dominated. Kate is sometimes the token exception on similar lists, but even she can't make it here.
Kate should have had a shot at top 50 at least...
Mine is totally male dominated but at least i had KB plus iamthemorning and The Violet Hour who are both female fronted.
So many great women that did not make the list though.... Dalbello, Tori Amos, Gina Jakobi, Anneke van Giersbergen, Marcela Bovio etc....
Should have thought a bit more about that
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My top 25, with consensus rankings in parenthesis.
25. Enchant
24. No-Man
23. Metallica (#4)
22. Blinker the Star
21. Electric Light Orchestra
20. Howard Jones
19. Peter Gabriel (#33t)
18. Tiles
17. Pat Metheny Group
16. Thank You Scientist
15. King's X
14. Liquid Tension Experiment
13. Yes (#15)
12. Level 42
11. Genesis (#7)
10. Steely Dan
9. Frost*
8. The Flower Kings
7. Haken (#11)
6. Porcupine Tree (#5)
5. Dream Theater (#1)
4. Spock's Beard (#28)
3. Transatlantic (#19)
2. Rush (#2)
1. Kansas
I find it very odd Kansas didn’t appear in the top 50 especially after seeing you give it a number 1 ranking.
They must have just missed since PG1067 also had them at 9. I think number 50 on the overall list only had a couple of very high votes (Miles Davis - he had one number 1 vote and appeared on 4 lists total).
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Muse might have made my list 10 years ago. Their last couple of albums have been so bad they’ve completely killed my interest in the band. Didn’t even consider them when putting my list together.
It's weird how this happens. Theoretically, if you like earlier albums, those are set in stone. Nothing else that happens changes the content on them. But it seems that sometimes if bands continually release inferior music in the future, this sours even their earlier output to some extent sometimes. My version of this is In Flames, who would have been far higher 15-20 years ago, and now are relegated to an honorable mention.
I think that's why I forgot to rank Queensryche. But even though I really don't like a significant portion of their discography, the good stuff is so good that I should have ranked them.
(Not sure what my excuse is for missing Anathema. I like all of their recent albums.)
I guess did expect Tesseract to make it, but I don't think it's a huge shock or a snub that they didn't. I could be overlooking something, but I think Haken is the only newer band to make the list.
Although DT and Katatonia and Porcupine Tree could be considered newer on this top 50. :) And probably Neil Morse stuff.
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Thanks to ReaperKK for running this!
Here's my list:
25. Emerson Lake & Palmer
24. IQ
23. Haken
22. Frost*
21. The Panic Division
20. Tesseract
19. John Coltrane
18. VOLA
17. Voyager
16. Between the Buried and Me
15. Mastodon
14. Jean-Luc Ponty
13. Miles Davis Quintet
12. Karnivool
11. Peter Gabriel
10. Bjork
9. Steven Wilson
8. Yes
7. Nine Inch Nails
6. Meshuggah
5. Dream Theater
4. Marillion
3. Rush
2. Genesis
1. Porcupine Tree
I don't really think any of the ones from my list that didn't make the consensus top 50 are snubs. I'm maybe slightly surprised at Meshuggah and Nine Inch Nails not making it, but, that's small potatoes.
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Thanks to ReaperKK for running this!
Here's my list:
25. Emerson Lake & Palmer
24. IQ
23. Haken
22. Frost*
21. The Panic Division
20. Tesseract
19. John Coltrane
18. VOLA
17. Voyager
16. Between the Buried and Me
15. Mastodon
14. Jean-Luc Ponty
13. Miles Davis Quintet
12. Karnivool
11. Peter Gabriel
10. Bjork
9. Steven Wilson
8. Yes
7. Nine Inch Nails
6. Meshuggah
5. Dream Theater
4. Marillion
3. Rush
2. Genesis
1. Porcupine Tree
I don't really think any of the ones from my list that didn't make the consensus top 50 are snubs. I'm maybe slightly surprised at Meshuggah and Nine Inch Nails not making it, but, that's small potatoes.
Another Tesseract. :)
My list was based on play count so I submitted mine really fast.
25 DGM
24 Bruce Dickinson
23 Conception
22 Lunatic Soul
21 Borknagar
20 Subsignal
19 Vola
18 Iron Maiden
17 Green Carnation
16 Caligula's Horse
15 Evergrey
14 Vanden Plas
13 Alice in Chains
12 Sonata Arctica
11 Voyager
10 Tesseract
9 Riverside
8 Fates Warning
7 Angra
6 Threshold
5 Arcturus
4 Rush
3 Dream Theater
2 Leprous
1 Katatonia
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Nice to see Leprous! They were honestly the biggest snub for me. I can understand them not making the top 25, but not even in the top 50? WTF?!
They narrowly missed my list but it's weird that Miles Davis ranked higher. On DTF.
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Meshuggah and Leprous would have easily made my list if we did this ten years ago.
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I don't remember my list, but I'm almost sure Leprous was in there in the top 20 somewhere. I think DT came at #3 for me.
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My biggerst shock though was Avantasia. I was sure there were enough fans around here that they'd be pushed to the Top 50 at least.
Yeah.
1. Ayreon
2. Pink Floyd
3. Avantasia
Ev gives them 23 points; I gave them 19 (ranked them 7th). So minimum 42 points didn't crack the Top 50 ... but surely Kade threw a vote at 'em. Maybe Tim too.
I find it very odd Kansas didn’t appear in the top 50 especially after seeing you give it a number 1 ranking.
Indeed. Miles made it with a single #1, and only 3 others rating him at all.
Can't wait to see all of the bands that were rated #1 but didn't make the list. I can't be stuffed to go back and count up how many #1s were tallied in the Top 50, but I'm quite curious.
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I tend to throw Kansas in the same pile as Styx. A strong run of three or four albums in the 70s and really nothing outside of that has moved me much.
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I don't know why, but Kansas have a sound that grates on me. It might be the fiddles, but other bands I like have them. I have two of their albums on my computer (Leftoverture and Point of Know Return) and when a song from one of them pops up on random, I just sort of groan and hit skip. Carry On Wayward Son is one of my first experiences of prog though and is a great song, so it does still hold a special place for me.
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Thank you Reap!! This was a lot more fun than I thought it would be!! I kinda want to see the FULL list of all 200+ bands that got a vote.
Here’s mine:
1. Rush
2. IQ
3. Haken
4. Pink Floyd
5. Porcupine Tree
6. Tom Waits
7. Dream Theater
8. Fates Warning
9. Frank Zappa
10. Jethro Tull
11. Tool
12. Between the Buried and Me
13. Primus
14. Genesis
15. Led Zeppelin
16. Yes
17. Steven Wilson
18. Queensryche
19. The Beatles
20. OSI
21. Spock’s Beard
22. Pain of Salvation
23. Riverside
24. Voivod
25. Prince
Dream Theater slipped down to the 7 spot over the last 15 years or so. Octavarium was absolutely perfection to me. But SC was a HUGE drop off in quality and everything since then has been spotty. The self titled and A View have been highlights, but even those never did as much for me as most of the IAW-8V material.
If I had done a list, we probably would've put IQ on the map. My apologies to Peter, Mike, Tim, and Neal.
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Muse might have made my list 10 years ago. Their last couple of albums have been so bad they’ve completely killed my interest in the band. Didn’t even consider them when putting my list together.
It's weird how this happens. Theoretically, if you like earlier albums, those are set in stone. Nothing else that happens changes the content on them. But it seems that sometimes if bands continually release inferior music in the future, this sours even their earlier output to some extent sometimes. My version of this is In Flames, who would have been far higher 15-20 years ago, and now are relegated to an honorable mention.
I think it's case by case though, and I think it depends on how strong their better output is. I kinda agree with a band like In Flames but then I was only really into certain albums before they dropped off, and they were never a top 10 band for me.
Children of Bodom are the other end of the spectrum though for me. Their early albums, debut through to Are You Dead Yet? are so damn good that they remain a top 10 band even though I have zero interest in anything they released after AYDY?
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Thank you Reap!! This was a lot more fun than I thought it would be!! I kinda want to see the FULL list of all 200+ bands that got a vote.
Here’s mine:
1. Rush
2. IQ
3. Haken
4. Pink Floyd
5. Porcupine Tree
6. Tom Waits
7. Dream Theater
8. Fates Warning
9. Frank Zappa
10. Jethro Tull
11. Tool
12. Between the Buried and Me
13. Primus
14. Genesis
15. Led Zeppelin
16. Yes
17. Steven Wilson
18. Queensryche
19. The Beatles
20. OSI
21. Spock’s Beard
22. Pain of Salvation
23. Riverside
24. Voivod
25. Prince
Dream Theater slipped down to the 7 spot over the last 15 years or so. Octavarium was absolutely perfection to me. But SC was a HUGE drop off in quality and everything since then has been spotty. The self titled and A View have been highlights, but even those never did as much for me as most of the IAW-8V material.
If I had done a list, we probably would've put IQ on the map. My apologies to Peter, Mike, Tim, and Neal.
Sorry..... they did not turn up until number 7 on my list.
Great as they are.
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My biggerst shock though was Avantasia. I was sure there were enough fans around here that they'd be pushed to the Top 50 at least.
Yeah.
1. Ayreon
2. Pink Floyd
3. Avantasia
Ev gives them 23 points; I gave them 19 (ranked them 7th). So minimum 42 points didn't crack the Top 50 ... but surely Kade threw a vote at 'em. Maybe Tim too.
I find it very odd Kansas didn’t appear in the top 50 especially after seeing you give it a number 1 ranking.
Indeed. Miles made it with a single #1, and only 3 others rating him at all.
Can't wait to see all of the bands that were rated #1 but didn't make the list. I can't be stuffed to go back and count up how many #1s were tallied in the Top 50, but I'm quite curious.
The threshold of points to make the top 50 was 59 which is what Miles Symphony X had :)
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Here is my full list
25 Nick Drake (Unranked)
24 The Mars Volta (Unranked)
23 Miles Davis
22 Black Sabbath
21 Godspeed You! Black Emperor
20 black midi (Unranked)
19 Porcupine Tree
18 Talking Heads (Unranked)
17 King Crimson
16 Charli XCX (Unranked)
15 Agalloch
14 Bright Eyes (Unranked)
13 Genesis
12 Bob Dylan (Unranked)
11 Lucy Dacus (Unranked)
10 Caroline Polachek (Unranked)
9 Neil Young (Unranked)
8 St. Vincent (Unranked)
7 Father John Misty (Unranked)
6 Peter Gabriel
5 King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard (Unranked)
4 Steely Dan (Unranked)
3 Warren Zevon (Unranked)
2 David Bowie (Unranked)
1 Frank Zappa
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Karolis, thank you so much for doing this!!! Great job.
Here's my list..
25 Theocracy
24 Led Zeppelin
23 Ozzy Osbourne
22 Black Sabbath
21 Megadeth
20 Van Halen
19 AC/DC
18 Hammerfall
17 Saxon
16 Anthrax
15 Metallica
14 Kiss
13 Rush
12 Armored Saint
11 Riot
10 Accept
9 Flotsam & Jetsam
8 Gary Moore
7 Michael Schenker
6 Thin Lizzy
5 Helloween
4 Alice Cooper
3 Iron Maiden
2 Dream Theater
1 UFO
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Karolis, thank you so much for doing this!!! Great job.
Here's my list..
25 Theocracy
24 Led Zeppelin
23 Ozzy Osbourne
22 Black Sabbath
21 Megadeth
20 Van Halen
19 AC/DC
18 Hammerfall
17 Saxon
16 Anthrax
15 Metallica
14 Kiss
13 Rush
12 Armored Saint
11 Riot
10 Accept
9 Flotsam & Jetsam
8 Gary Moore
7 Michael Schenker
6 Thin Lizzy
5 Helloween
4 Alice Cooper
3 Iron Maiden
2 Dream Theater
1 UFO
This has gotta be the most 80s list yet! I'd expect nothing less Tim :metal
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Another huge thanks to ReaperKK for what must have been a huge undertaking in running this thread. Much appreciated. My list, with those that didn't make the top 50 in bold:
25. Nightwish
24. Meat Loaf (Favourite album: Bat out of Hell II. Favourite song: For Crying Out Loud)
23. Arena (Favourite album: Contagion. Favourite song: Opera Fanatica)
22. Guns n Roses (Favourite album: Use Your Illusion. Favourite song: Civil War)
21. Fleetwood Mac (Favourite album: Rumours. Favourite song: Gold Dust Woman)
20. Tool
19. Between The Buried And Me
18. Peter Gabriel
17. REM (Favourite album: Reveal. Favourite song: Find The River)
16. Led Zeppelin
15. Oasis (Favourite album: Morning Glory. Favourite song: Live Forever)
14. The Who (Favourite album: Quadrophenia. Favourite song: Won't Get Fooled Again)
13. Swans (Favourite album: The Seer. Favourite song: The Apostate)
12. Iron Maiden
11. Metallica
10. Cradle of Filth (Favourite album: Midian. Favourite song: Cruelty Brought Thee Orchids)
9. Godspeed You Black Emperor
8. The Beatles
7. Eric Johnson (Favourite album: Venus Isle. Favourite song: Lonely in the Night)
6. Children of Bodom (Favourite album: Hatebreeder. Favourite song: Kissing The Shadows)
5. Elliott Smith (Favourite album: X/O. Favourite song: Between The Bars)
4. Dream Theater
3. Dire Straits (Favourite album: Making Movies. Favourite song: Telegraph Road)
2. Genesis
1. Pink Floyd
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DT! Love this band, possibly my favorite, definitely top 3.
Bands that didn't make it that I would (probably rank):
System of a Down
Thrice
Linkin Park
Cloudkicker
The Warning
Boards of Canada (maybe)
Liquid Tension Experiment
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Frost*
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Dream Theater #23 for me were and remain one of my go-to artists since picking up Images And Words on a whim back in the day \m/
Thanks for running this one Reaper, was good fun and full of many surprises to say the least. Think about 9 of my choices made the final 25 which given the broad tastes on display wasn't too bad and I remain confident I was the only one to have chosen my #5 band :lol
Cheers :coolio
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I don't know why, but Kansas have a sound that grates on me. It might be the fiddles, but other bands I like have them. I have two of their albums on my computer (Leftoverture and Point of Know Return) and when a song from one of them pops up on random, I just sort of groan and hit skip. Carry On Wayward Son is one of my first experiences of prog though and is a great song, so it does still hold a special place for me.
Those two albums have their most commercial songs, but Leftoverture is a wall-to-wall banger. If Magnum Opus doesn't do it for you, then they may just not be for you (how can you not like a song that has sections titled "Release the Beavers" and "Gnat Attack"?!). For me, the gateway into Kansas was the live album Two for the Show (along with the 1984 "Best of" package). Journey from Mariabronn (from the debut), Icarus - Borne on Wings of Steel (from Masque) and Song from America (from the album of the same name) are all so ridiculously good. There isn't a bad song on the first 8 albums (and even 9 and 10 are pretty good, although Kerry Livgren started going very heavy with the religious themes by that point).
I'm assuming Chad had Triumph on his list, but I'm wondering how many others did.
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I don't know why, but Kansas have a sound that grates on me. It might be the fiddles, but other bands I like have them. I have two of their albums on my computer (Leftoverture and Point of Know Return) and when a song from one of them pops up on random, I just sort of groan and hit skip. Carry On Wayward Son is one of my first experiences of prog though and is a great song, so it does still hold a special place for me.
Those two albums have their most commercial songs, but Leftoverture is a wall-to-wall banger. If Magnum Opus doesn't do it for you, then they may just not be for you (how can you not like a song that has sections titled "Release the Beavers" and "Gnat Attack"?!). For me, the gateway into Kansas was the live album Two for the Show (along with the 1984 "Best of" package). Journey from Mariabronn (from the debut), Icarus - Borne on Wings of Steel (from Masque) and Song from America (from the album of the same name) are all so ridiculously good. There isn't a bad song on the first 8 albums (and even 9 and 10 are pretty good, although Kerry Livgren started going very heavy with the religious themes by that point).
For me, Leftoverture has one good song (What's On My Mind), one great song (Questions of my Childhood), and then the other six are masterpiece-tier. I can't think of another album in my collection with that kind of hit rate. I love the production on Leftoverture, too. There's six guys in the band and so much going on in their arrangements, but it all comes through clear in the mix, and the guitars have balls when they need to. Honestly, I've always thought that Kansas had the same level of artistic creativity and musicianship as the big British prog bands (Genesis, Yes, etc) but with two key additions to the sound -- some harder guitars, and the violin. That set them apart to me.
I know the Styx comparison is always gonna be there for Kansas, but Styx has always come across as more bombastic, direct, and commercial to me, while Kansas was not afraid to do things that were more complex and creative musically. And I like Styx, I really do (The Mission is one of the most shockingly good albums I've heard in the last ten years) but Kansas never released anything as awful as "Plexiglass Toilet". :lol
Based on the lists that were posted, I think two others of my favorites (King's X and Frost*) must have just missed the cut too.
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I don't know why, but Kansas have a sound that grates on me. It might be the fiddles, but other bands I like have them. I have two of their albums on my computer (Leftoverture and Point of Know Return) and when a song from one of them pops up on random, I just sort of groan and hit skip. Carry On Wayward Son is one of my first experiences of prog though and is a great song, so it does still hold a special place for me.
Those two albums have their most commercial songs, but Leftoverture is a wall-to-wall banger. If Magnum Opus doesn't do it for you, then they may just not be for you (how can you not like a song that has sections titled "Release the Beavers" and "Gnat Attack"?!). For me, the gateway into Kansas was the live album Two for the Show (along with the 1984 "Best of" package). Journey from Mariabronn (from the debut), Icarus - Borne on Wings of Steel (from Masque) and Song from America (from the album of the same name) are all so ridiculously good. There isn't a bad song on the first 8 albums (and even 9 and 10 are pretty good, although Kerry Livgren started going very heavy with the religious themes by that point).
I'm assuming Chad had Triumph on his list, but I'm wondering how many others did.
I do like Leftoverture better of the two.
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First off, let me join everyone in thanking Reaper for running this. It really was a ton of fun, and I'm going to spend some time sifting through everyone's list over the next couple days :) Must've been quite the undertaking putting this together, given the large number of unique entries...
Here's mine:
25 Ghost
24 Opeth (16)
23 Mastodon (23)
22 Skyclad
21 Aerosmith
20 Judas Priest (17)
19 Dark Tranquillity
18 Evergrey (43)
17 Anathema (36)
16 Pain of Salvation (26)
15 Nevermore
14 The Gathering
13 Savatage
12 Metallica (3)
11 Sentenced
10 Marillion (18)
9 Katatonia (39)
8 Blind Guardian
7 Amorphis
6 Fates Warning (12)
5 Queensryche (8)
4 Iron Maiden (3)
3 Paradise Lost
2 Dream Theater (1)
1 Rush (2)
10 in the top 25, 14 in the top 50
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The list I submitted.
25: Kate Havnevik
24: TesseracT
23: All About Eve
22: Anathema (#36)
21: Spiritbox
20: Ayreon (#29)
19: Soilwork
18: Aghora
17: John Coltrane
16: Depeche Mode
15: Deadlock
14: Amorphis
13: Mercenary
12: Scar Symmetry
11: Aziza Mustafa Zadeh
10: Destiny Potato
9: Chelsea Wolfe
8: Draconian
7: All Ends
6: Nightingale
5: Kingfisher Sky
4: Autumn
3: Nevermore
2: Opeth (#16)
1: Katatonia (#39)
1/25, 4/50.
I'll post honorable mentions later.
Are you sure you're at the right forum?? :lol
I sometimes wonder how some people made it here in the first place. :lol
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Sometimes I'm not sure I am. :lol And I'll find out in the next few weeks if I'm in the right roulette. :p But DT was my favorite band for a good chunk of high school, and I started lurking here 24 years ago, so I'm kind of committed at this point.
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19 Dark Tranquillity
15 Nevermore
14 The Gathering
13 Savatage
11 Sentenced
7 Amorphis
3 Paradise Lost
All classics here. Hoped they'd get more votes (especially The Gathering for some variety), but it was not to be. A couple on my list, more in the honorables section, the rest would be a bit past it.
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My list;
25. Edguy
24. Iced Earth
23. Gary Moore
22. Queensryche
21. Between the Buried and Me
20. Fates Warning
19. Evergrey
18. Children of Bodom
17. Stratovarius
16. Rush
15. Gamma Ray
14. Trivium
13. Mastodon
12. Helloween
11. WASP
10. Yngwie Malmsteen
9. Tool
8. In Flames
7. King Diamond
6. Soilwork
5. Savatage
4. Black Sabbath
3. Dream Theater
2. Judas Priest
1. Iron Maiden
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24. Iced Earth
8. In Flames
6. Soilwork
There we go. No Scar Symmetry?
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Finally we reach number 1, and really is it a surprise this band finished number 1? I mean the forum is kind of named after them :lol
01. Dream Theater
WHAT A TWIST
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Weezer got robbed.
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24. Iced Earth
8. In Flames
6. Soilwork
There we go. No Scar Symmetry?
Looks that way. They came a little later than most of the other bands. I like most their stuff but really HU was the only one that I would consider in the top tier. All the other bands on my list have had more albums that have influenced me in their careers.
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The list I submitted.
25: Kate Havnevik
24: TesseracT
23: All About Eve
22: Anathema (#36)
21: Spiritbox
20: Ayreon (#29)
19: Soilwork
18: Aghora
17: John Coltrane
16: Depeche Mode
15: Deadlock
14: Amorphis
13: Mercenary
12: Scar Symmetry
11: Aziza Mustafa Zadeh
10: Destiny Potato
9: Chelsea Wolfe
8: Draconian
7: All Ends
6: Nightingale
5: Kingfisher Sky
4: Autumn
3: Nevermore
2: Opeth (#16)
1: Katatonia (#39)
1/25, 4/50.
I'll post honorable mentions later.
Are you sure you're at the right forum?? :lol
I sometimes wonder how some people made it here in the first place. :lol
I came for the dream theater, I stayed for community :heart
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The list I submitted.
25: Kate Havnevik
24: TesseracT
23: All About Eve
22: Anathema (#36)
21: Spiritbox
20: Ayreon (#29)
19: Soilwork
18: Aghora
17: John Coltrane
16: Depeche Mode
15: Deadlock
14: Amorphis
13: Mercenary
12: Scar Symmetry
11: Aziza Mustafa Zadeh
10: Destiny Potato
9: Chelsea Wolfe
8: Draconian
7: All Ends
6: Nightingale
5: Kingfisher Sky
4: Autumn
3: Nevermore
2: Opeth (#16)
1: Katatonia (#39)
1/25, 4/50.
I'll post honorable mentions later.
Are you sure you're at the right forum?? :lol
I sometimes wonder how some people made it here in the first place. :lol
I came for the dream theater, I stayed for community :heart
I came more for the community after the MP forum bit the dust!
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MY top 10 bands of all time are (I'll be 64 in January, after all) :mehlin:
10 The Rolling Stones
9 Alter Bridge
8 Aerosmith
7 Neal Morse/NMB
6 Judas Priest
5 Led Zeppelin
4 The WHO
3 Dream Theater (at least through '10)
2 Elton John
1 QUEEN
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MY top 10 bands of all time are (I'll be 64 in January, after all) :mehlin:
10 The Rolling Stones
9 Alter Bridge
8 Aerosmith
7 Neal Morse/NMB
6 Judas Priest
5 Led Zeppelin
4 The WHO
3 Dream Theater (at least through '10)
2 Elton John
1 QUEEN
Interesting that Alter Bridge wittled their way in there and Aerosmith has hung around.
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Did not participate but enjoyed following. At quick glance without much thought:
Artists where I couldn’t name one of their song
50t. Miles Davis
49. Agalloch
46t. Avenged Sevenfold
44t. The Dear Hunter
40t. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
39. Katatonia
37. Between The Buried And Me
36. Anathema
33t. Big Big Train
31. Riverside
23t. Coheed & Cambria
23t. Mastodon
Artists integral to my musical development but have been relegated to emeritus status:
46t. Scorpions
21t. Queen
10. Led Zeppelin
09. The Beatles
02. Rush (if only on the strength of their 2112-MP run)
Artists I enjoy quite a bit:
50t. Symphony X
40t. Nightwish
29. Ayreon
08. Queensryche
Artists I’d put in my top tier
06. Pink Floyd
03. Iron Maiden
01. Dream Theater
Artists that didn’t rank that I’d put toward the top of my list
The Who
Within Temptation
Ghost
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Sometimes I'm not sure I am. :lol And I'll find out in the next few weeks if I'm in the right roulette. :p But DT was my favorite band for a good chunk of high school, and I started lurking here 24 years ago, so I'm kind of committed at this point.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad you’re here, it just seems incongruous with your musical tastes
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24. Iced Earth
8. In Flames
6. Soilwork
There we go. No Scar Symmetry?
Or Avantasia!
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Weezer got robbed.
I still like some of their early material, I just haven't kept up with them, and rarely play full albums, so I stick to the handful of songs I've liked for a couple decades.
Sometimes I'm not sure I am. :lol And I'll find out in the next few weeks if I'm in the right roulette. :p But DT was my favorite band for a good chunk of high school, and I started lurking here 24 years ago, so I'm kind of committed at this point.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad you’re here, it just seems incongruous with your musical tastes
There aren't really any good spots for most of the other musical niches I like. Certainly hardly any places that can hit many at once. I still enjoy enough prog and metal to find some common ground here, and can slowly expose people to various other musical pockets. And a consequence of doing so much exploring is that you can get really attached to some of the more obscure bands and neglect the more popular ones.
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The list I submitted.
25: Kate Havnevik
24: TesseracT
23: All About Eve
22: Anathema (#36)
21: Spiritbox
20: Ayreon (#29)
19: Soilwork
18: Aghora
17: John Coltrane
16: Depeche Mode
15: Deadlock
14: Amorphis
13: Mercenary
12: Scar Symmetry
11: Aziza Mustafa Zadeh
10: Destiny Potato
9: Chelsea Wolfe
8: Draconian
7: All Ends
6: Nightingale
5: Kingfisher Sky
4: Autumn
3: Nevermore
2: Opeth (#16)
1: Katatonia (#39)
1/25, 4/50.
I'll post honorable mentions later.
Are you sure you're at the right forum?? :lol
I sometimes wonder how some people made it here in the first place. :lol
:)
Some nice picks in there, Litho. Looking at some of your top names - Really cool to see Nightingale so high. They would likely show up in a top 50 for me, or just about. We discussed it before, but I have a particular fondness for the first album, despite the fact that it's stylistically quite different from what came after. But it always felt a true love letter from Swano to a bunch of his musical influences. Kingfisher Sky is a band I didn't even know existed before you mentioned it here. I have bought their first album and it's great - I need to explore the rest. Autumn is a band I already knew (I had randomly found My New Time in a used CD store and really liked it), but I am exploring more of them too. In fact, I just got their Altitude album (snuck it in with some other stuff in an order ;)). Nevermore - well, enough said.
My list;
25. Edguy
24. Iced Earth
23. Gary Moore
22. Queensryche
21. Between the Buried and Me
20. Fates Warning
19. Evergrey
18. Children of Bodom
17. Stratovarius
16. Rush
15. Gamma Ray
14. Trivium
13. Mastodon
12. Helloween
11. WASP
10. Yngwie Malmsteen
9. Tool
8. In Flames
7. King Diamond
6. Soilwork
5. Savatage
4. Black Sabbath
3. Dream Theater
2. Judas Priest
1. Iron Maiden
Is this the first Stratovarius mention? Big fan of the Twilight Time-Dreamspace-Fourth Dimension run. Their more classic Euro-power records like Episode and Visions are of course pristine specimens for the genre - not necessarily my go-to, but great albums. They then lost me a bit. They are certainly having a good run with Kupiainen, though. Also great to see Savatage. What a great band. And, despite the fact that they carried on to release some fantastic music even without him, what a tragic, tragic loss Criss Oliva's death was. Edge of Thorns was such a special record - who knows what they would have done with Criss.
MY top 10 bands of all time are (I'll be 64 in January, after all) :mehlin:
10 The Rolling Stones
9 Alter Bridge
8 Aerosmith
7 Neal Morse/NMB
6 Judas Priest
5 Led Zeppelin
4 The WHO
3 Dream Theater (at least through '10)
2 Elton John
1 QUEEN
Interesting that Alter Bridge wittled their way in there and Aerosmith has hung around.
Aerosmith made my top 25...they were one of my first forays into "harder" rocking music at the end of the 80s, first with Permanent Vacation and then with Pump. Still love those albums dearly. And then exploring their back catalog was a treat. So many classics. They could be gritty, but always with great melody...they had the riffs, the attitude, and a fantastic frontman. I mean, they were almost consistently a mess, but to me they belong to the greats.
My list was based on play count so I submitted mine really fast.
25 DGM
24 Bruce Dickinson
23 Conception
22 Lunatic Soul
21 Borknagar
20 Subsignal
19 Vola
18 Iron Maiden
17 Green Carnation
16 Caligula's Horse
15 Evergrey
14 Vanden Plas
13 Alice in Chains
12 Sonata Arctica
11 Voyager
10 Tesseract
9 Riverside
8 Fates Warning
7 Angra
6 Threshold
5 Arcturus
4 Rush
3 Dream Theater
2 Leprous
1 Katatonia
Wow, so nice to see Threshold. I now remember you mentioning you are a big fan. They have been SO consistent throughout the years. What's impressive is how good their last two records are. Also great picks with Green Carnation, Subsignal (what do you think of Sieges Even, btw?) and Conception.
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Savatage were pretty big for me Nick when getting into the whole power metal thing. The classic run of albums up til Elements 1 is class. I enjoy all eras, they've really cemented themselves with the new lineup, which I was skeptical on.
And yes, Savatage were always top 5 for me but really, spots 2-5 are interchangeable. I know, every time I listen to EOT I think about what could have been if Criss were still here.
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I'm not gonna quote every post mentioning them, but I'm happy to see some fans of Frost* here. For a band that's been around for nearly twenty years and only has four albums, it amazes me that they've stayed as present in the prog sphere as they have. But like some of their contemporaries, especially the ones who produce albums every 3-6 years, it feels like each album is an EVENT, and I really like that aspect of them. Sure they're another 21st century prog supergroup, but this collection of musicians molded by Jem's unique sound and vision for the band really help them stick out as a band that is rarely forgotten once you get to know them.
-Marc.
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13. Enchant
Nice to see them. A Blueprint of the World remains one of my favorites of that early-to-mid 90s prog wave.
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13. Enchant
Nice to see them. A Blueprint of the World remains one of my favorites of that early-to-mid 90s prog wave.
Oh yeah, still listen to all of their stuff pretty regularly. Love Ted's voice, and Doug and Paul were very underrated at their respective instruments.
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1 Van Halen
2 Frank Zappa
3 Warrior Soul
4 Dream Theater
5 Metallica
6 Iron Maiden
7 Killing Joke
8 Guns and Roses
9 Steely Dan
10 Soundgarden
11 Devin Townsend Project
12 Porcupine Tree
13 Machine Head
14 The Cult
15 Siouxsie and the Banshees
16 Queens of the Stone Age
17 Testament
18 Suicidal Tendencies
19 Megadeth
20 Queensryche
21 Badlands
22 The Damned
23 Alice in Chains
24 Rollins Band
25 Riverside
Loads of bands that wouldn't get anywhere near this board, but that's fine.
DT at 9. They could easily be higher-I probably listen to their music the most (apart from Frank and Miles) simply because there's a lot of it.\
Incidentally, in anticipation of the DT100 thread I have revisited TA. It's bloody good actually. Some terrific music-unfortunately the whole concept thing is pretty lame IMHO.
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13 Machine Head
17 Testament
18 Suicidal Tendencies
Incidentally, in anticipation of the DT100 thread I have revisited TA. It's bloody good actually. Some terrific music-unfortunately the whole concept thing is pretty lame IMHO.
Nice picks! Machine Head made my list too. Testament and Suicidal Tendencies didn't, but possibly top 50 for Testament.
I actually agree with your statement about The Astonishing by the way.
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14 The Gathering
13 Savatage
12 Metallica (3)
11 Sentenced
10 Marillion (18)
9 Katatonia (39)
8 Blind Guardian
7 Amorphis
6 Fates Warning (12)
5 Queensryche (8)
4 Iron Maiden (3)
3 Paradise Lost
2 Dream Theater (1)
1 Rush (2)
10 in the top 25, 14 in the top 50
Now that's a list \m/
Paradise Lost :metal and I noticed someone else had Badlands in theirs, much respect they made my 30 and certainly on reflection they should have made my 25 of which there were plenty of other non-starters :lol ...
15. The Angels
14. Candlebox
13. The Cult
12. Black Sabbath
11. Noiseworks
10. Bruce Dickinson
9. Sevendust
8. Paradise Lost
7. Charon
6. Dio
5. Huey Lewis And The News
4. Soundgarden
3. Van Halen
2. Iron Maiden
1. Queensryche
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My biggerst shock though was Avantasia. I was sure there were enough fans around here that they'd be pushed to the Top 50 at least.
Yeah.
1. Ayreon
2. Pink Floyd
3. Avantasia
Ev gives them 23 points; I gave them 19 (ranked them 7th). So minimum 42 points didn't crack the Top 50 ... but surely Kade threw a vote at 'em. Maybe Tim too.
They were on my list too.
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Tomorrow I'll post the full artist list but lets see how the lists stack up being counted differently.
This is what the list will look like if we went off the Spotify streaming numbers:
1 Queen 47,326,413
2 The Beatles 36,256,395
3 Metallica 24,398,779
4 Radiohead 24,356,090
5 Pink Floyd 18,524,036
6 Led Zeppelin 17,623,697
7 Black Sabbath 13,851,208
8 Van Halen 13,117,580
9 Kiss 13,092,452
10 Scorpions 12,757,198
11 Avenged Sevenfold 10,088,151
12 Iron Maiden 7,785,631
13 Genesis 6,901,786
49 Peter Gabriel 5,366,209
14 Megadeth 5,060,932
15 Judas Priest 4,975,198
16 Tool 4,134,630
17 Rush 3,826,175
18 Yes 3,060,389
19 Miles Davis 2,912,949
20 Nightwish 2,542,967
21 Dream Theater 1,531,901
22 Coheed & Cambria 1,304,245
23 Katatonia 1,280,613
24 Mastodon 1,188,376
25 Frank Zappa 1,070,577
26 Queensryche 1,057,030
27 Marillion 951,686
28 UFO 946,280
29 King Crimson 858,296
30 Opeth 695,490
31 Porcupine Tree 674,534
32 Helloween 339,524
33 Steven Wilson 324,444
34 Anathema 278,938
35 Riverside 228,316
36 Godspeed You! Black Emperor 172,298
37 Haken 160,303
38 The Dear Hunter 159,408
39 Devin Townsend 156,386
40 Symphony X 151,100
41 Between The Buried And Me 146,619
42 Evergrey 114,709
43 Ayreon 101,278
44 Agalloch 101,100
45 Pain of Salvation 89,262
46 Neal Morse 49,838
47 Fates Warning 31,214
48 Spock's Beard 22,090
50 Big Big Train 19,634
51 Transatlantic 14,779
Someone in the thread (I think Litho) mentioned organizing the list in the frequency a band appeared on lists rather than position, this is what that would look like. The bolded are the new bands that would be included, the number values are how many lists the artists appeared on:
Dream Theater 42
Iron Maiden 28
Rush 27
Pink Floyd 22
Metallica 21
Porcupine Tree 19
Queensryche 14
Genesis 14
Led Zeppelin 14
Yes 13
Megadeth 12
Queen 12
Opeth 12
Fates Warning 12
The Beatles 12
Tool 12
Van Halen 11
Black Sabbath 11
Steven Wilson 11
Haken 11
Mastodon 10
Judas Priest 10
Pain of Salvation 9
Transatlantic 9
Coheed & Cambria 8
Between The Buried And Me 8
Riverside 8
Anathema 7
Spock's Beard 7
Marillion 7
Kiss 7
Peter Gabriel 6
Big Big Train 6
Ayreon 6
Evergrey 6
Neal Morse 6
Ghost 6
Devin Townsend 6
Avenged Sevenfold 6
Nightwish 6
Scorpions 5
Radiohead 5
Bruce Springsteen 5
Helloween 5
Alice In Chains 5
Journey 5
Symphony X 5
Aerosmith 5
Godspeed You! Black Emperor 5
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Sidebar, but it is still wild to me that Queen has passed everyone, including the Beatles, to become the most popular classic band among current listeners.
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Sidebar, but it is still wild to me that Queen has passed everyone, including the Beatles, to become the most popular classic band among current listeners.
I agree, but do we think this may be due to Bohemian Rhapsody being on a higher percentage of Spotify Playlists then any other Beatles song?
Also, surprised that The Dear Hunter have more monthly listeners than all the bands below them.
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Katatonia has more streams than Queensryche? And Opeth. And Haken. I wouldn't have expected that. Especially as they open for Opeth when they tour together.
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Now that's a list \m/
Paradise Lost :metal
8. Paradise Lost
:biggrin: Knew I could count on you for PL :metal
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Katatonia has more streams than Queensryche? And Opeth. And Haken. I wouldn't have expected that. Especially as they open for Opeth when they tour together.
Yeah, that is somewhat unexpected. Happy for them, though (not that it, um, materially matters all that much, I'm afraid ;))
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Sidebar, but it is still wild to me that Queen has passed everyone, including the Beatles, to become the most popular classic band among current listeners.
I agree, but do we think this may be due to Bohemian Rhapsody being on a higher percentage of Spotify Playlists then any other Beatles song?
I am sure that helps, but it has to be more than that. This is anecdotal, but I remember my nephew (who is 18) and my niece (who is 17) a while back, in the saved songs thing or favorites or whatever it is called on Spotify, both had around 20 Queen songs. And I suspect that is the case for many younger people nowadays. Queen resonating with them more than any other classic band has put them over the top.
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Yeah that by-frequency list is a straight downgrade in my opinion.
I'm curious how many artists only got a single vote. :corn
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My list was based on play count so I submitted mine really fast.
25 DGM
24 Bruce Dickinson
23 Conception
22 Lunatic Soul
21 Borknagar
20 Subsignal
19 Vola
18 Iron Maiden
17 Green Carnation
16 Caligula's Horse
15 Evergrey
14 Vanden Plas
13 Alice in Chains
12 Sonata Arctica
11 Voyager
10 Tesseract
9 Riverside
8 Fates Warning
7 Angra
6 Threshold
5 Arcturus
4 Rush
3 Dream Theater
2 Leprous
1 Katatonia
Wow, so nice to see Threshold. I now remember you mentioning you are a big fan. They have been SO consistent throughout the years. What's impressive is how good their last two records are. Also great picks with Green Carnation, Subsignal (what do you think of Sieges Even, btw?) and Conception.
Agreed on their consistency. I not sure they even have a song that I don't like. The last two records are awesome. Sieges Even is great. I think I haven't given their early stuff much attention - the first album I heard was The Art of Navigating by the Stars. There were 3 singers before Arno and I think I just gave one or two of the albums a cursory listen and that's about it. Not that the other singers aren't good - I don't really remember what they sounded like. Just too much stuff to listen to and easy to skip those albums.
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Katatonia has more streams than Queensryche? And Opeth. And Haken. I wouldn't have expected that. Especially as they open for Opeth when they tour together.
Yeah, that is somewhat unexpected. Happy for them, though (not that it, um, materially matters all that much, I'm afraid ;) )
It doesn't make sense to me. In spite of Opeth having growls, they've always seemed on a higher tier of popularity than Katatonia, and I'd have thought that the others would be more listened to as well. Opeth and Haken are supposed to be considered flagship bands of the modern prog metal scene. And people who aren't even really into metal as a genre will still sometimes know Queensryche because of songs like "Silent Lucidity".
Also, some of those streaming numbers might be more complicated than they appear. If a band has had any of their material be unavailable on Spotify for periods of time their numbers might be artificially lower than they otherwise would be. Dunno which bands that might be the case for.
Artists like Devin Townsend and Between the Buried and Me being almost a whole order of magnitude less popular makes me think something is going on with the numbers, it doesn't reflect my experience in observing the prog scene for the past couple decades.
I'll have to look more carefully through it, but one obvious result is that if you just go by ballot inclusion rather than ranking, Katatonia drops entirely off the top 50. A predictable result, given that the #1 votes from Lethean and I for them had an outsized impact on their ranking.
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Those are rolling monthly streams so it's as good as the previous 30 days. To your point though if there are chunks of the discog missing from a band on Spotify then it would skew the numbers.
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Katatonia has more streams than Queensryche? And Opeth. And Haken. I wouldn't have expected that. Especially as they open for Opeth when they tour together.
Yeah, that is somewhat unexpected. Happy for them, though (not that it, um, materially matters all that much, I'm afraid ;))
But I think it helps for tour support and festival bookings. At least, that's the case according to some even less popular bands trying to get their followers to listen to them on Spotify. :)
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Interesting, so taking away rankings, Marillion and Devin Townsend seem to have the biggest drops. Megadeth has the biggest jump up. Miles Davis, Agalloch, King Crimson, The Dear Hunter, and UFO also fall off entirely.
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So only DT and Iron Maiden appeared on at least half of the lists.
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It's kinda funny how the Top 3 are DT, Iron Maiden, and Rush.
Iron Maiden + Rush = Dream Theater (although JP has said he considers DT to be a 'heavy metal Yes without the vocal harmonies').
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That doesn't quite get you there, DT gets much more "metal" than either. Metallica + Yes is closer.
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Sieges Even is great. I think I haven't given their early stuff much attention - the first album I heard was The Art of Navigating by the Stars. There were 3 singers before Arno and I think I just gave one or two of the albums a cursory listen and that's about it. Not that the other singers aren't good - I don't really remember what they sounded like. Just too much stuff to listen to and easy to skip those albums.
Well, their first record, Lifecycle, is pretty much technical thrash in the vein of Watchtower, so very different from basically anything else they've done. Their second, Steps, is a fascinating album, but difficult and almost "impenetrable". It's a whole different beast already, much softer-sounding, but extremely complex (think Rush-meets-Fates Warning, Perfect Symmetry-era). Same singer as the debut, and (unsurprisingly) he sounds like a fish out of water on this one. Their third, A Sense of Change, is possibly my favorite. VERY influenced by Rush, it's lovely. Still complex, but also very melodic. Different singer - not nearly as good as Arno, but ok. The last couple of albums before the ones with Arno are also good (especially Sophisticated)...once again, different singer. In this case, different guitar player too (Markus Steffen would then come back for Art of Navigating). They sound more fusion-y. Very enjoyable, with some crazy-good guitar playing and, of course, the usual fantastic drum and bass work from the Holzwarth brothers.
Maybe give A Sense of Change a try, when you have a chance...
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Sieges Even is great. I think I haven't given their early stuff much attention - the first album I heard was The Art of Navigating by the Stars. There were 3 singers before Arno and I think I just gave one or two of the albums a cursory listen and that's about it. Not that the other singers aren't good - I don't really remember what they sounded like. Just too much stuff to listen to and easy to skip those albums.
Well, their first record, Lifecycle, is pretty much technical thrash in the vein of Watchtower, so very different from basically anything else they've done. Their second, Steps, is a fascinating album, but difficult and almost "impenetrable". It's a whole different beast already, much softer-sounding, but extremely complex (think Rush-meets-Fates Warning, Perfect Symmetry-era). Same singer as the debut, and (unsurprisingly) he sounds like a fish out of water on this one. Their third, A Sense of Change, is possibly my favorite. VERY influenced by Rush, it's lovely. Still complex, but also very melodic. Different singer - not nearly as good as Arno, but ok. The last couple of albums before the ones with Arno are also good (especially Sophisticated)...once again, different singer. In this case, different guitar player too (Markus Steffen would then come back for Art of Navigating). They sound more fusion-y. Very enjoyable, with some crazy-good guitar playing and, of course, the usual fantastic drum and bass work from the Holzwarth brothers.
Maybe give A Sense of Change a try, when you have a chance...
I actually own that one, so I should revisit it. I've heard the first album as well, and I think at least one other. I believe I skipped over whatever Markus wasn't on. Thrash has never been my thing, and I can usually listen to it in smaller doses, but I remember thinking the first album had some cool stuff.
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That doesn't quite get you there, DT gets much more "metal" than either. Metallica + Yes is closer.
DT is more metal than Iron Maiden?
I think Rush+Iron Maiden or Rush+Metallica works. Or maybe all three. Rush is a huge influence that I think you can hear more even directly than their other influences.
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Sweet Miracle (164)
This is your lowest ranked song, but there are 165 album tracks (I did 166 because I included Broon's Bane). did you omit an album track when you did your rankings?
I do NOT have Broon's Bane, but I do have both BUBU2U's. I also have the early stuff too.
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Sweet Miracle (164)
This is your lowest ranked song, but there are 165 album tracks (I did 166 because I included Broon's Bane). did you omit an album track when you did your rankings?
I do NOT have Broon's Bane, but I do have both BUBU2U's. I also have the early stuff too.
How can anyone not like Sweet Miracle?
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That doesn't quite get you there, DT gets much more "metal" than either. Metallica + Yes is closer.
DT is more metal than Iron Maiden?
I think Rush+Iron Maiden or Rush+Metallica works. Or maybe all three. Rush is a huge influence that I think you can hear more even directly than their other influences.
Maiden has nothing in the stratosphere of "Lie"/"The Mirror", "The Glass Prison", "The Dark Eternal Night", "A Nightmare To Remember", etc. Honestly even Metallica isn't a perfect comparison, their aesthetics are almost always rooted in 80s metal origins, whereas DT continued to accumulate 90s and 00s metal trappings.
I picked Yes because of the continual keyboard presence regardless of era.
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If I were around to play, sticking to acts under the rock umbrella:
1. Deep Purple
2. Dream Theater
3. The Beatles
4. Pink Floyd
5. King Crimson
6. Led Zeppelin
7. Jethro Tull
8. Iron Maiden
9. Rainbow
10. Rory Gallagher
11. Gentle Giant
12. Genesis
13. Billy Joel
14. Elton John
15. The Who
16. Dire Straits
17. Supertramp
18. Faith No More
19. Black Sabbath
20. Metallica
21. Neal Morse
22. Transatlantic
23. Tom Waits
24. Muse
25. Soundgarden
Love some of these choices. (Ritchie Blackmore is my favorite musician of all time, and it's not really close).
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I don't know why, but Kansas have a sound that grates on me. It might be the fiddles, but other bands I like have them. I have two of their albums on my computer (Leftoverture and Point of Know Return) and when a song from one of them pops up on random, I just sort of groan and hit skip. Carry On Wayward Son is one of my first experiences of prog though and is a great song, so it does still hold a special place for me.
Those two albums have their most commercial songs, but Leftoverture is a wall-to-wall banger. If Magnum Opus doesn't do it for you, then they may just not be for you (how can you not like a song that has sections titled "Release the Beavers" and "Gnat Attack"?!). For me, the gateway into Kansas was the live album Two for the Show (along with the 1984 "Best of" package). Journey from Mariabronn (from the debut), Icarus - Borne on Wings of Steel (from Masque) and Song from America (from the album of the same name) are all so ridiculously good. There isn't a bad song on the first 8 albums (and even 9 and 10 are pretty good, although Kerry Livgren started going very heavy with the religious themes by that point).
For me, Leftoverture has one good song (What's On My Mind), one great song (Questions of my Childhood), and then the other six are masterpiece-tier. I can't think of another album in my collection with that kind of hit rate. I love the production on Leftoverture, too. There's six guys in the band and so much going on in their arrangements, but it all comes through clear in the mix, and the guitars have balls when they need to. Honestly, I've always thought that Kansas had the same level of artistic creativity and musicianship as the big British prog bands (Genesis, Yes, etc) but with two key additions to the sound -- some harder guitars, and the violin. That set them apart to me.
I know the Styx comparison is always gonna be there for Kansas, but Styx has always come across as more bombastic, direct, and commercial to me, while Kansas was not afraid to do things that were more complex and creative musically. And I like Styx, I really do (The Mission is one of the most shockingly good albums I've heard in the last ten years) but Kansas never released anything as awful as "Plexiglass Toilet". :lol
I generally agree with all that. On the Wooden Nickel albums, Styx tinkered with some of the same prog leanings that Kansas showed, but they obviously had other influences, and I don't think their songwriting was as mature as early as Kansas's was. That said, Plexiglass Toilet is just good, silly fun.
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30 Transatlantic (The Whirlwind, Bridge Across Forever, The Absolute Universe)
29 Paul McCartney (Band On The Run, Ram, II) Saw once; best concert ever
28 Billy Joel (The Stranger, Nylon Curtain, Stormfront) Saw six times
27 Night Ranger (Midnight Madness, Dawn Patrol, Seven Wishes) Saw three times I think
26 Van Halen (Fair Warning, A Different Kind Of Truth, 1984) Saw twice, once with Sam and once with Dave.
25 Mother Love Bone (the self-titled compilation) Never saw live, but I did see the tribute, Temple Of The Dog
24 Jane's Addiction (Ritual, Nothing Shocking, Strays) Saw once; better than you'd think
23 Pink Floyd (Wish You Were Here, Dark Side Of The Moon, The Wall) Saw once without Roger. Amazing
22 Queen (Queen II; Innuendo; A Kind Of Magic) Never saw them
21 Rush (Moving Pictures, Hemispheres, A Farewell To Kings) Saw four times I think
20 AC/DC (High Voltage, Dirty Deeds..., For Those About To Rock) Saw once; loudest show ever
19 Rolling Stones (Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, Aftermath) Saw once, amazing
18 Asia (Alpha, Asia, XXX) Saw twice, once with John Wetton (amazing), once with John Payne (horrible)
17 Supertramp (Breakfast in America, Crime Of The Century, Even In The Quietest Moments) Saw Roger live; he was AMAZING
16 Deep Purple (Fireball, Machine Head, Perfect Street Rangers) Saw twice, never with Blackmore though (had tickets though)
15 Rainbow (Rising, Bent Out Of Shape, Straight Between The Eyes) Never saw them, sadly
14 The Cars (Candy-O, The Cars, Heartbeat City) Saw once; love the band but they sucked live
13 Oasis (What's the Story..., Be Here Now, Dig Out Your Soul) Never saw live, but saw each of the brothers
12 Neal Morse. (And yes, I lumped.). (Innocence and Danger; The Grand Experiment; TSOAD). Saw numerous times
11 Black Sabbath (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Sabotage, Heaven and Hell) Saw three times, two with Tony, one with Ozzy
10 Cheap Trick (Heaven Tonight, In Color, Dream Police) Saw numerous times. LOVE THEM.
9 Iron Maiden (Powerslave, Killers, Senjutsu) Saw numerous times including as an opening act; first concert ever (Number... tour)
8 Ozzy Osbourne (Diary Of A Madman, Blizzard Of Ozz, No More Tears). Saw twice, though never with Randy or Jake
7 Dream Theater (Images & Words, SFAM, Octavarium). Saw too many times to count (though not as much as some here)
6 Marillion (Clutching At Straws, Misplaced Childhood, Brave) Saw three times, all with Hogarth
5 Yes (Going For The One, Fragile, Close To The Edge) Saw too many times to count, with Rabin and with Howe
4 Led Zeppelin (Physical Graffiti, IV, How The West Was Won). Saw Page and Plant in '95
3. Kiss (Rock And Roll Over; Creatures Of The Night; Hotter Than Hell) Saw them too many times to count, no makeup and with makeup
2 Genesis (Wind And Wuthering, Duke, The Lamb...] Saw live (Invisible Touch Tour)
1 The Beatles (Abbey Road, Sgt. Pepper, Revolver) I saw Paul McCartney live.
7 for 10 on "givens".
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That doesn't quite get you there, DT gets much more "metal" than either. Metallica + Yes is closer.
DT is more metal than Iron Maiden?
I think Rush+Iron Maiden or Rush+Metallica works. Or maybe all three. Rush is a huge influence that I think you can hear more even directly than their other influences.
Maiden has nothing in the stratosphere of "Lie"/"The Mirror", "The Glass Prison", "The Dark Eternal Night", "A Nightmare To Remember", etc. Honestly even Metallica isn't a perfect comparison, their aesthetics are almost always rooted in 80s metal origins, whereas DT continued to accumulate 90s and 00s metal trappings.
I picked Yes because of the continual keyboard presence regardless of era.
Yes and Genesis and others with more keyboards than Rush are definitely big influences. But it's still Rush. :)
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That doesn't quite get you there, DT gets much more "metal" than either. Metallica + Yes is closer.
DT is more metal than Iron Maiden?
I think Rush+Iron Maiden or Rush+Metallica works. Or maybe all three. Rush is a huge influence that I think you can hear more even directly than their other influences.
Maiden has nothing in the stratosphere of "Lie"/"The Mirror", "The Glass Prison", "The Dark Eternal Night", "A Nightmare To Remember", etc. Honestly even Metallica isn't a perfect comparison, their aesthetics are almost always rooted in 80s metal origins, whereas DT continued to accumulate 90s and 00s metal trappings.
I picked Yes because of the continual keyboard presence regardless of era.
Ok ok, what about Rush + Limp Bizkit?
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That doesn't quite get you there, DT gets much more "metal" than either. Metallica + Yes is closer.
DT is more metal than Iron Maiden?
I think Rush+Iron Maiden or Rush+Metallica works. Or maybe all three. Rush is a huge influence that I think you can hear more even directly than their other influences.
Maiden has nothing in the stratosphere of "Lie"/"The Mirror", "The Glass Prison", "The Dark Eternal Night", "A Nightmare To Remember", etc. Honestly even Metallica isn't a perfect comparison, their aesthetics are almost always rooted in 80s metal origins, whereas DT continued to accumulate 90s and 00s metal trappings.
I picked Yes because of the continual keyboard presence regardless of era.
Ok ok, what about Rush + Limp Bizkit?
Nah. Engelbert Humperdink and Golgoroth.
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I've always said that for me, Dream Theater was Iron Maiden and Rush crammed together and Steve Perry singing on top. That was my impression though, during the Kevin Moore period; when Jordan came in, the style of the keys changed to a more traditionally prog "Emerson/Wakeman" realm.
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Silly Me, never posted my list.
1. Devin Townsend
2. Rush
3. King Crimson
4. Porcupine Tree
5. Coheed and Cambria
6. Steven Wilson
7. The Beatles
8. Radiohead
9. Neal Morse
10. Genesis
11. Clutch
12. King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard
13. Dream Theater
14. Pink Floyd
15. Transatlantic
16. Baroness
17. Nine Inch Nails
18. Big Big Train
19. Metallica
20. Haken
21. LCD Soundsystem
22. Tool
23. Black Sabbath
24. Weezer
25. Strapping Young Lad
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My list. My top ten is pretty set in stone, but from eleven onward was a bit of a free for all. On a different day I could have a very different list.
25. Pain of Salvation
24. Deep Purple
23. Fates Warning
22. Coheed and Cambria
21. Soundgarden
20. Manic Street Preachers
19. Megadeth
18. Led Zeppelin
17. Queen
16. U2
15. Judas Priest
14. Nightwish
13. Muse
12. Pink Floyd
11. Rush
10. UFO
9. Faith No More
8. Diamond Head
7. Helloween
6. Black Sabbath
5. Dream Theater
4. Metallica
3. Iron Maiden
2. Scorpions
1. Queensryche
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And my current Top 25. In retrospect, 7-9 are more nostalgic anymore and should probably move down the list.
My lock prediction count 9/9! sorry jingle.boy, they all made it.
1. RUSH
2. Dream Theater (LOCK)
3. The Beatles
4. Primus (Probably not)
5. "Weird Al" Yankovic (Nope)
6. Iron Maiden
7. Metallica
8. Led Zeppelin
9. Van Halen
10. Anthrax (Nope)
11. Mastodon
12. Spock's Beard
13. Living Colour (Nope)
14. The Smashing Pumpkins (Nope)
15. Between the Buried and Me
16. Lamb of God (Nope)
17. Avenged Sevenfold
18. Opeth
19. Beastie Boys (Nope)
20. Tool
21. Coheed & Cambria
22. Pink Floyd
23. Soul Asylum (Absolutely nope)
24. Alice in Chains (Nope)
25. Megadeth
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Here's my full list that I ranked, top 44
44 Depeche Mode
43 Nile
42 Alice in Chains
41 Absu
40 Chevelle
39 Mastodon
38 Ayreon
37 Threshold
36 Oceansize
35 Judas Priest
34 Foo Fighters
33 Riverside
32 Incubus
31 Queensryche
30 Led Zeppelin
29 Journey
28 Blind Guardian
27 Shadow Gallery
26 Metallica
25 Pink Floyd
24 Yes
23 Symphony X
22 Sieges Even
21 Agalloch
20 The Mars Volta
19 The Smashing Pumpkins
18 Blut Aus Nord
17 Deftones
16 The Dear Hunter
15 Iron Maiden
14 Opeth
13 Type O Negative
12 Moonsorrow
11 Coheed and Cambria
10 Fates Warning
9 Dream Theater
8 Between the Buried and Me
7 Tool
6 Anathema
5 Enslaved
4 Devin Townsend
3 Marillion
2 Porcupine Tree
1 Rush
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Everyone has been waiting for the final list!:
- Dream Theater - 824
- Rush - 524
- Iron Maiden - 459
- Metallica - 330
- Porcupine Tree - 310
- Pink Floyd - 308
- Genesis - 248
- Queensryche - 217
- The Beatles - 200
- Led Zeppelin - 193
- Haken - 172
- Fates Warning - 170
- Steven Wilson - 154
- Van Halen - 154
- Yes - 153
- Opeth - 144
- Judas Priest - 138
- Marillion - 137
- Transatlantic - 133
- Black Sabbath - 132
- Tool - 126
- Queen - 126
- Mastodon - 123
- Coheed & Cambria - 123
- Devin Townsend - 117
- Pain of Salvation - 115
- Neal Morse - 113
- Spock's Beard - 109
- Ayreon - 103
- Kiss - 98
- Riverside - 94
- Megadeth - 92
- Peter Gabriel - 91
- Big Big Train - 91
- Radiohead - 87
- Anathema - 86
- Between The Buried And Me - 83
- Helloween - 78
- Katatonia - 76
- Nightwish - 72
- Godspeed You! Black Emperor - 72
- UFO - 70
- Evergrey - 68
- Frank Zappa - 66
- The Dear Hunter - 66
- Scorpions - 63
- Avenged Sevenfold - 63
- King Crimson - 63
- Agalloch - 60
- Symphony X - 59
- Miles Davis - 59
- Ghost - 58
- Paradise Lost - 57
- Journey - 57
- R.E.M. - 57
- Alice In Chains - 56
- Kansas - 55
- The Who - 55
- Soundgarden - 54
- Primus - 53
- Nine Inch Nails - 51
- Aerosmith - 51
- Avantasia - 49
- Children of Bodom - 49
- Dire Straits - 48
- The Flower Kings - 48
- Liquid Tension Experiment - 48
- Gojira - 48
- Alice Cooper - 47
- IQ - 47
- Bruce Springsteen - 47
- Styx - 46
- Steely Dan - 46
- Threshold - 46
- Anthrax - 45
- Jethro Tull - 44
- Faith No More - 42
- Deftones - 42
- David Bowie - 41
- Leprous - 40
- King’s X - 40
- Triumph - 40
- Amorphis - 40
- Blind Guardian - 40
- Oasis - 40
- Def Leppard - 39
- Redemption - 39
- Sufjan Stevens - 39
- AC/DC - 39
- Pearl Jam - 39
- Taylor Swift - 38
- Jeff Buckley - 38
- TesseracT - 37
- Muse - 37
- King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard - 37
- Slayer - 37
- The Rolling Stones - 36
- Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - 36
- The National - 36
- Sigur rós - 36
- Draconian - 35
- Moon Safari - 35
- Living Colour - 35
- Nevermore - 34
- Weird Al Yankovic - 34
- Savatage - 34
- Trivium - 34
- Plini - 33
- Mew - 33
- Foo Fighters - 33
- Accept - 32
- TOTO - 32
- U2 - 32
- Ulver - 32
- Frost* - 32
- Kamelot - 31
- Portishead - 31
- Dio - 31
- Pantera - 31
- Testament - 31
- Fishmans - 30
- Depeche Mode - 30
- Bob Dylan - 29
- Elton John - 29
- Brand New - 29
- Heart - 28
- Bruce Dickinson - 28
- Soilwork - 27
- Guns and Roses - 27
- Eric Johnson - 27
- Sonata Arctica - 27
- Neil Young - 27
- Dredg - 27
- Meshuggah - 27
- The Cult - 26
- Baroness - 26
- Saxon - 26
- Sevendust - 26
- Tom Waits - 25
- City Boy - 25
- Incubus - 25
- The Tangent - 24
- Voyager - 24
- Beach Boys - 24
- Motorpsycho - 24
- Swans - 24
- Neal Morse Band - 24
- Ozzy Osbourne - 24
- Manic Street Preachers - 24
- Paul McCartney - 23
- Alter Bridge - 23
- Nick Cave - 23
- NOFX - 23
- The Michael Schenker Group - 23
- Weezer - 23
- Thin Lizzy - 23
- Animals as Leaders - 23
- Larkin Poe - 23
- Lana Del Rey - 23
- Warren Zevon - 23
- Fair To Midland - 23
- Supertramp - 23
- Steve Vai - 23
- Nobuo Uematsu - 22
- Voivod - 22
- Elvis Presley - 22
- Cult of Luna - 22
- Seven Spires - 22
- Kaki King - 22
- Autumn - 22
- Arcturus - 21
- XTC - 21
- Gary Moore - 21
- Kingfisher Sky - 21
- Killing Joke - 21
- Simon & Garfunkel - 21
- The Blue Nile - 21
- Elliott Smith - 21
- Joe Satriani - 21
- Machine Head - 21
- Billy Joel - 21
- Huey Lewis And The News - 21
- Enslaved - 21
- Talk Talk - 20
- Emerson, Lake & Palmer - 20
- Within Temptation - 20
- OSI - 20
- Nightingale - 20
- Blaze Bayley - 20
- Strapping Young Lad - 20
- Kip Winger - 20
- King Diamond - 19
- The Smashing Pumpkins - 19
- All Ends - 19
- Charon - 19
- Kanye West - 19
- Rolling Stones - 19
- Blut aus Nord - 19
- Royal Republic - 19
- Cinderella - 19
- Father John Misty - 19
- Angra - 19
- First Aid Kit - 19
- Akira Yamaoka - 19
- Warrior Soul - 19
- Y&T - 19
- Gregory Alan Isakov - 19
- Periphery - 18
- Beastie Boys - 18
- Dream Wife - 18
- Rainbow - 18
- St. Vincent - 18
- In Flames - 18
- Diamond Head - 18
- Dirt Poor Robins - 18
- Massive Attack - 18
- Vanden Plas - 17
- Benny Goodman - 17
- Teramaze - 17
- Michael Kelsey - 17
- Chelsea Wolfe - 17
- Damien Rice - 17
- Mr. Big - 17
- Kate Bush - 17
- Beyond The Black - 17
- Flotsam & Jetsam - 17
- Heroes Del Silencio - 16
- Seventh Wonder - 16
- Caroline Polachek - 16
- Cradle of Filth - 16
- A.C.T - 16
- Yngwie Malmsteen - 16
- Abba - 16
- Cheap Trick - 16
- Mystery - 16
- David Maxim Micic - 16
- Destiny Potato - 16
- Bjork - 16
- Deep Purple - 16
- John Coltrane - 16
- Jolly - 16
- WASP - 15
- Bell Witch - 15
- Failure - 15
- Lucy Dacus - 15
- Motorhead - 15
- iamthemorning - 15
- Riot - 15
- Sweet Billy Pilgrim - 15
- Noiseworks - 15
- Thomas Dybdahl - 15
- Vola - 15
- Aziza Mustafa Zadeh - 15
- The Decemberists - 15
- Ihsahn - 15
- Sentenced - 15
- Clutch - 15
- The Ocean - 15
- Siouxsie and the Banshees - 15
- Greet Death - 14
- Karnivool - 14
- Harem Scarem - 14
- Armored Saint - 14
- John Mayer - 14
- Epica - 14
- Enchant - 14
- Moonsorrow - 14
- Bad Religion - 14
- Little Angels - 14
- Electric Light Orchestra - 14
- Extreme - 14
- Scar Symmetry - 14
- Level 42 - 14
- Dave Matthews Band - 13
- Intervals - 13
- Burial - 13
- Camel - 13
- The Violet Hour - 13
- Rosalie Cunningham - 13
- Type O Negative - 13
- Green Day - 13
- Mercenary - 13
- Thank You Scientist - 13
- Public Service Broadcasting - 12
- Danko Jones - 12
- Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - 12
- Running Wild - 12
- Kashiwa Daisuke - 12
- Shawn Lane - 12
- The Gathering - 12
- Kings Of Convenience - 12
- The Night Flight Orchestra - 12
- Tears for Fears - 12
- Bright Eyes - 12
- Candlebox - 12
- Poison - 12
- The Cars - 12
- Jean-Luc Ponty - 12
- The Brave Little Abacus - 12
- Dir En Grey - 11
- Gamma Ray - 11
- The Kinks - 11
- Black - 11
- Deadlock - 11
- Hardline - 11
- Bon Iver - 11
- Angel - 11
- Loudness - 11
- Suicidal Tendencies - 11
- The Angels - 11
- The Tallest Man on Earth - 10
- Lynyrd Skynyrd - 10
- Kyuss - 10
- Pattern-Seeking Animals - 10
- Matthew Good - 10
- Tages - 10
- Charli XCX - 10
- Rancid - 10
- Trans-Siberian Orchestra - 10
- Emma Ruth Rundle - 10
- Lamb of God - 10
- Caligula's Horse - 10
- The Pineapple Thief - 10
- Jakub Zytecki - 10
- Jellyfish - 10
- Blink-182 - 9
- Kent - 9
- Al di Meola - 9
- Tesla - 9
- Flying Colors - 9
- Stratovarius - 9
- Thy Catafalque - 9
- The Cure - 9
- Pat Metheny Group - 9
- The Damned - 9
- Phil Collins - 9
- Green Carnation - 9
- Gustavo Cerati - 9
- Blondie - 9
- The Mars Volta - 8
- Deacon Blue - 8
- Moon Tooth - 8
- Hammerfall - 8
- Unitopia - 8
- Aghora - 8
- Asia - 8
- Rivers of Nihil - 8
- Anamanaguchi - 8
- Red Mountains - 8
- Talking Heads - 8
- Exodus - 8
- Manowar - 8
- Nomeansno - 8
- Nicolas Jaar - 8
- Kinks - 8
- Tiles - 8
- Oceansize - 8
- Eclipse - 7
- The Eagles - 7
- Dark Tranquillity - 7
- Daft Punk - 7
- The Temperance Movement - 7
- Fleetwood Mac - 6
- Howard Jones - 6
- Ludovico Einaudi - 6
- Okkervil River - 6
- Queens of the Stone Age - 6
- Stryper - 6
- Darren Korb - 6
- Origin - 6
- Frank Turner - 6
- Joan Jett - 6
- Subsignal - 6
- Rollins Band - 6
- Disillusion - 6
- black midi - 6
- Allan Holdsworth - 6
- Shivaree - 6
- The Alan Parsons Project - 6
- Counting Crows - 6
- Whitesnake - 6
- 65daysofstatic - 6
- Car Seat Headrest - 6
- death's dynamic shroud - 6
- The Jam - 6
- Zeal & Ardor - 6
- J Giels Band - 6
- YYNOT - 5
- Brutus - 5
- Angel Olsen - 5
- The Doors - 5
- My Chemical Romance - 5
- All That Remains - 5
- James LaBrie - 5
- Perturbator - 5
- Borknagar - 5
- Spiritbox - 5
- Metal Church - 5
- The Clientele - 5
- Stone Temple Pilots - 5
- The Panic Division - 5
- The Tragically Hip - 5
- Billy Squier - 5
- LCD Soundsystem - 5
- Blinker the Star - 4
- Amenra - 4
- Kaipa - 4
- Sieges Even - 4
- Field Music - 4
- Isis - 4
- Audioslave - 4
- Bask - 4
- Lunatic Soul - 4
- Skyclad - 4
- Badlands - 4
- Jeff Rosenstock - 4
- Angel Vivaldi - 4
- Lloyd Cole - 3
- Sabaton - 3
- Garbage - 3
- Freddie Mercury - 3
- Disturbed - 3
- John Petrucci - 3
- Hansson de Wolfe United - 3
- Soul Asylum - 3
- Jimmy Barnes - 3
- Neutral Milk Hotel - 3
- Catherine Wheel - 3
- Conception - 3
- Arena - 3
- All About Eve - 3
- Swallow the Sun - 3
- Iced Earth - 2
- Mahavishnu Orchestra - 2
- The Aristocrats - 2
- Paul Cauthen - 2
- Fish - 2
- Jimmy Eat World - 2
- No-Man - 2
- Nils Frahm - 2
- Skid Row - 2
- Jane’s Addiction - 2
- Wet Leg - 2
- Blue Oyster Cult - 2
- Meat Loaf - 2
- Brian May - 2
- Vennart - 2
- John Lennon - 1
- Edguy - 1
- Theocracy - 1
- Red Hot Chili Peppers - 1
- The Crystal Method - 1
- Horsehead - 1
- Kendrick Lamar - 1
- Nick Drake - 1
- The Mission - 1
- The Killers - 1
- Linkin Park - 1
- Prince - 1
- DGM - 1
- The Beths - 1
- Kate Havnevik - 1
- Lacuna Coil - 1
- Mother Love Bone - 1
- Enrique Bunbur - 1
- The Cardigans - 1
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Damn, my Flower Kings 5th place would have pushed them into the top 50.
And my 9th place finish for Taylor Swift would have not only gotten her into the top 60, but into a tie with The Who. I will take that as a victory. :hat :hat
But what a pitiful showing for U2. Wow.
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I'm going to run this again next year but if I were to guess the top 10 wouldn't change but I'd love to see how the other 15 would.
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I'm going to run this again next year but if I were to guess the top 10 wouldn't change but I'd love to see how the other 15 would.
This one is your thing, but with a top 50, having everyone submit a top 50, rather than just a top 25, would likely result in slightly different results.
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I'm going to run this again next year but if I were to guess the top 10 wouldn't change but I'd love to see how the other 15 would.
Peoples tastes probably won't change that much - changes will most likely be driven by who submits a list.
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I'm going to run this again next year but if I were to guess the top 10 wouldn't change but I'd love to see how the other 15 would.
This one is your thing, but with a top 50, having everyone submit a top 50, rather than just a top 25, would likely result in slightly different results.
I'd probably keep it at 25, or maybe 30 and then posting a top 50. I think getting 50 would be more challenging for folks but we'll see.
I'm going to run this again next year but if I were to guess the top 10 wouldn't change but I'd love to see how the other 15 would.
Peoples tastes probably won't change that much - changes will most likely be driven by who submits a list.
yea sorry, that's what I meant. We had some forum veterans miss submitting a list which could've moved some things around.
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King Gizzard landed at #95, which is honestly way higher than I would've predicted.
Still can't get over Leprous only placing at #80. They narrowly missed my top 25 and I can only imagine they did the same for many others.
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53. Paradise Lost - 57
Wow, they got closer than I thought to the top 50! Obviously, 23 out of the 57 points are from me ;) But then someone else other than me and Wardy must've had them...who is (are) the fellow PL fan(s) here?
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Looks like I was the only one to include Pattern-Seeking Animals, Flying Colors, and Unitopia on my list?
-Marc.
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53. Paradise Lost - 57
Wow, they got closer than I thought to the top 50! Obviously, 23 out of the 57 points are from me ;) But then someone else other than me and Wardy must've had them...who is (are) the fellow PL fan(s) here?
I really enjoy Paradise Lost, and consider myself a fan, but they wouldn't make my top 50. Possibly they could squeeze into my top 100. There are just too many bands competing dammit!
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Damn...my list would've easily put IQ and The Who into the top 50. Sorry guys :'(
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That doesn't quite get you there, DT gets much more "metal" than either. Metallica + Yes is closer.
DT is more metal than Iron Maiden?
I think Rush+Iron Maiden or Rush+Metallica works. Or maybe all three. Rush is a huge influence that I think you can hear more even directly than their other influences.
Maiden has nothing in the stratosphere of "Lie"/"The Mirror", "The Glass Prison", "The Dark Eternal Night", "A Nightmare To Remember", etc. Honestly even Metallica isn't a perfect comparison, their aesthetics are almost always rooted in 80s metal origins, whereas DT continued to accumulate 90s and 00s metal trappings.
I picked Yes because of the continual keyboard presence regardless of era.
I would agree with this. I actually never heard much direct Iron Maiden influence in DT music. And when DT's music gets "crunchier" (I'm thinking relatively speaking, even in albums like I&W), I feel Metallica's influence jumps out more. That's what I remembered thinking when I first heard Pull Me Under. Then I also agree in later albums there was more 90s/00s metal influence in the heavier songs.
As for Rush - obviously all the DT guys are massively influenced. Although, if I think about it, I can really hear it mostly on WDADU - some songs sound like Rush playing 80s proto-prog metal. On I&W, not as much. There's more of a, dare I say it, AOR influence and Yes/Marillion-esque prog mixed in with Metallica. Maybe it's the production too, and the way the keyboards sound.
The Rush influence comes back strong in certain songs, of course...Trial of Tears, The Looking Glass, the intro to Surrender to Reason, Transcending Time (to some extent)...
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Looks like I wasn't alone in having Beach Boys (my #2) and XTC (my #5) on their list.
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The Best of Times, The Dance of Eternity...
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Sentenced - 15
The Gathering - 12
Dark Tranquillity - 7
Skyclad - 4
Looks like these are the ones that only got votes from me. Not particularly surprised by Sentenced and Skyclad...a bit surprised by being the only one having The Gathering, perhaps, given the appreciation Anneke gets here from some of her other collaborations. Dark Tranquillity too.
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The Best of Times, The Dance of Eternity...
Yes, The Best of Times too, for sure. The Dance of Eternity doesn't scream Rush to me. As far as instrumentals go, I'd think more Ytse Jam (basically a turbo-charged version of YYZ ;D)
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The Best of Times, The Dance of Eternity...
Yes, The Best of Times too, for sure. The Dance of Eternity doesn't scream Rush to me. As far as instrumentals go, I'd think more Ytse Jam (basically a turbo-charged version of YYZ ;D)
Not the whole thing, but there's definitely a Rush-like part.
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Shiiit... I knew (was pretty sure) I'd be the only one for Hardline, Harem Scarem, and TSO. I'm surprised I was the only voter for Mystery and Teramaze. I know King would've been with me for Mystery had he submitted a list.
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I would have for sure.
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Damn.... Fish at 2 points. So I was the only one having him on my list.
I can't be the only one who prefers Fish over Marillion without Fish, can I?
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Damn...my list would've easily put IQ and The Who into the top 50. Sorry guys :'(
Next time you need to send in a list!
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The “just missed” bands who I struggled with whether to rank or not:
U2
Pearl Jam
XTC
Crowded House
Smashing Pumpkins
Toad the Wet Sprocket
Have been really into all of these at one time or another, but they are all the sort of bands where I go through phases with them and may not listen to them at all for long periods of time. Hard to balance those with bands you are currently more into.
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Damn.... Fish at 2 points. So I was the only one having him on my list.
I can't be the only one who prefers Fish over Marillion without Fish, can I?
I was going through the lists as I got them to check for spelling and band name consistency and for a moment I thought you meant phish :lol
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My entries that no one else had:
24,Fish
23,Hansson de Wolfe United
22,Kaipa
16,Jellyfish
13,The Violet Hour
11,iamthemorning
10,A.C.T S
9,Kate Bush
1,City Boy
Not too surprised with a few of these but.... Kate Bush shold have got more votes.... Fish and Jellyfish too
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Everyone has been waiting for the final list!:
The Coop received 47 points
4. Alice Cooper
So, that's 22 from Tim, 23 from me (since I had him at #3), and only two more points.
Shame! :lol
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My entries that no one else had:
24,Fish
23,Hansson de Wolfe United
22,Kaipa
16,Jellyfish
13,The Violet Hour
11,iamthemorning
10,A.C.T S
9,Kate Bush
1,City Boy
Not too surprised with a few of these but.... Kate Bush shold have got more votes.... Fish and Jellyfish too
iamthemorning may make my list if they release a few more albums with the same quality as the last two. I do enjoy them a lot, just not the Top 25 material for me right now.
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Jellyfish really should have made my list. I forget about them sometimes because they only have 2 albums. But both of them are pop perfection. I put Spilt Milk up there with Sgt Pepper. It’s just that good.
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From my post a day or two ago, these bands got ranked like this:
System of a Down NR
Thrice NR
Linkin Park #458
Cloudkicker NR
The Warning NR
Boards of Canada (maybe) NR
Liquid Tension Experiment #67
Red Hot Chili Peppers $451
Frost* #115
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Jellyfish, Apes & Androids, Jeff Buckley or even Fjokra, are perfect examples on why I didn't participate.
They have work I worship to no end, but their catalogs are so limited, having to compare artists by factoring limited quantity just gives me a headache.
Why I would be a lot more enthusiastic to participate (or run?) a (at least) Top 50 Albums Countdown.
That being said, if Reaper does do another 1 of these next year, I will try and submit a list, but with the assumption like many, a high percent of my list will not be making the Top 50.
I mean nobody even voted for what would have been/be my #1 Kevin Gilbert, so go figure.
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Ok, time to hit some various posts I noticed at the time, but the thread was moving a bit too fast for me to fully keep up with over the last couple days. I'll do these in a few batches.
I guess did expect Tesseract to make it, but I don't think it's a huge shock or a snub that they didn't. I could be overlooking something, but I think Haken is the only newer band to make the list.
Although DT and Katatonia and Porcupine Tree could be considered newer on this top 50. :) And probably Neil Morse stuff.
I had some false confidence with the latest TesseracT album appearing to have a fair amount of acclaim that maybe they'd have a shot at the top 50 or even top 25. For some reason the flagship djent bands (Periphery, Meshuggah, Animals As Leaders, them) are only mildly popular here. Haken I guess is the main exception, but they've moved somewhat away from that and have more DT DNA than the others.
19. John Coltrane
18. VOLA
10. Bjork
Coltrane was on my list (I loved that we happened to both submit something of his unknowingly but simultaneously in Metro's roulette). Bjork almost made it (in the upper 20s), and VOLA is inching their way towards my honorable mentions list, just too new to me and not enough material yet.
17 Green Carnation
13 Alice in Chains
12 Sonata Arctica
All three were close to making my honorables.
They narrowly missed my list but it's weird that Miles Davis ranked higher. On DTF.
In the 00s he probably would have been even higher. Jazz becomes less popular each year it seems. But the 60s Miles Davis lineups were to jazz sort of what DT was to metal in the 90s, even more so, really, because of his downstream effect on and explorations into so many other styles as well. Dunno if you've heard any of his stuff, but I know you like Mahavishnu Orchestra, so you might enjoy some of the albums like Bitch's Brew, A Tribute To Jack Johnson, and In a Silent Way, since some band members came from there. It's probably even indirectly an influence on some KGLW stuff filtered through other artists.
Within Temptation
If they had maintained their quality trajectory in the past dozen years maybe they'd be closer to my honorable mentions, but their last couple have soured me on them some.
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Artists I was the only ranker of:
21 Perturbator
20 death's dynamic shroud
18 Anamanaguchi
17 Thy Catafalque
15 Dir En Grey
12 Greet Death
11 Ihsahn
10 David Maxim Micic
8 Periphery
First three and Greet Death are obviously no surprise. Thy Catafalque and Dir En Grey aren't much of a surprise either but I would have thought they'd make at least one other's. Me being the only voter for Ihsahn, David Maxim Micic (I will never let you live this down, Litho), and Periphery is just insane.
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They narrowly missed my list but it's weird that Miles Davis ranked higher. On DTF.
In the 00s he probably would have been even higher. Jazz becomes less popular each year it seem. But the 60s Miles Davis lineup was to jazz sort of what DT was to metal in the 90s, even more so, really, because of his downstream effect on and explorations into so many other styles as well. Dunno if you've heard any of his stuff, but I know you like Mahavishnu Orchestra, so you might enjoy some of the albums like Bitch's Brew, A Tribute To Jack Johnson, and In a Silent Way, since some band members came from there. It's probably even indirectly an influence on some KGLW stuff filtered through other artists.
I know where you are coming from, and even though I'm not as knowledgeable as you are, I can appreciate he had a huge influence on many of his peers as well countless artists in the years that followed.
I have only really heard of a few of Davis's most acclaimed albums. I'm far from a jazz freak, and they are not the sort of albums I'd revisit frequently, but I can enjoy them. I definitely prefer a band like Mahavishnu Orchestra (funny you should mention them :corn ) though.
As much as all you said is true about Miles Davis, I still find it weird that he ranked higher than artists like Leprous. If he has his own thread, I can't remember seeing it on the first page, and it's not like the jazz thread is there constantly either. I know there a ton of jazz fans around here, but I guess I just thought there was more chance of Leprous making it as they get discussed may more (although maybe more like 5 years ago).
Artists I was the only ranker of:
21 Perturbator
20 death's dynamic shroud
18 Anamanaguchi
17 Thy Catafalque
15 Dir En Grey
12 Greet Death
11 Ihsahn
10 David Maxim Micic
8 Periphery
First three and Greet Death are obviously no surprise. Thy Catafalque and Dir En Grey aren't much of a surprise either but I would have thought they'd make at least one other's. Me being the only voter for Ihsahn, David Maxim Micic (I will never let you live this down, Litho), and Periphery is just insane.
Great bands some of these, and ones I love, they just have too much competition to make it in a top 25. I'm assuming Zantera didn't send a list right?
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David Maxim Micic (I will never let you live this down, Litho)
Even if we'd pooled our votes he wouldn't have made the top 100. Blame Sacul for not even ranking him at all. :p The Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson fans who voted for one and not the other have more to complain about, it might have actually made a material difference. :)
I have only really heard of a few of Davis's most acclaimed albums. I'm far from a jazz freak, and they are not the sort of albums I'd revisit frequently, but I can enjoy them. I definitely prefer a band like Mahavishnu Orchestra (funny you should mention them :corn ) though.
If you've heard earlier ones like Kind of Blue, those have more traditional jazz instrumentation. The late 60s and 70s ones more regularly incorporate electric guitar (some have John McLaughlin) and rock influences and thus tend to be gateway albums for rock fans.
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I was the only ranker for:
24. No-Man
22. Blinker the Star
20. Howard Jones
18. Tiles
17. Pat Metheny Group
12. Level 42
Honestly kind of surprised no one else put in for No-Man given the SW factor. The others, I figured I'd be alone on. "The Way Up" by PMG and "August Everywhere" by Blinker the Star are top-20 albums for me all-time so they had to make my list somewhere.
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I was the only ranker for:
24. No-Man
22. Blinker the Star
20. Howard Jones
18. Tiles
17. Pat Metheny Group
12. Level 42
Honestly kind of surprised no one else put in for No-Man given the SW factor. The others, I figured I'd be alone on. "The Way Up" by PMG and "August Everywhere" by Blinker the Star are top-20 albums for me all-time so they had to make my list somewhere.
I have two great albums by Tiles but I didnt have the Presents of Mind to put them on my list.
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Ok, time to hit some various posts I noticed at the time, but the thread was moving a bit too fast for me to fully keep up with over the last couple days. I'll do these in a few batches.
I guess did expect Tesseract to make it, but I don't think it's a huge shock or a snub that they didn't. I could be overlooking something, but I think Haken is the only newer band to make the list.
Although DT and Katatonia and Porcupine Tree could be considered newer on this top 50. :) And probably Neil Morse stuff.
I had some false confidence with the latest TesseracT album appearing to have a fair amount of acclaim that maybe they'd have a shot at the top 50 or even top 25. For some reason the flagship djent bands (Periphery, Meshuggah, Animals As Leaders, them) are only mildly popular here. Haken I guess is the main exception, but they've moved somewhat away from that and have more DT DNA than the others.
I don't think Haken ever really fit into the djent category. I thought the album before the current one sounded slightly Leprous-y and Leprous is/was occasionally djenty, but that's about it. Haken is very DT-like indeed, and I haven't listened to the new one for whatever reason but Diego was obviously a huge Jordan fan. Which I always thought was kind of cool.
But I also thought Tesseract had a chance - they get a lot of praise here but maybe it's from only the same handful of people.
19. John Coltrane
18. VOLA
10. Bjork
Coltrane was on my list (I loved that we happened to both submit something of his unknowingly but simultaneously in Metro's roulette). Bjork almost made it (in the upper 20s), and VOLA is inching their way towards my honorable mentions list, just too new to me and not enough material yet.
I haven't been listening to Vola all that long either but obviously have been playing them a lot over the last few years.
17 Green Carnation
13 Alice in Chains
12 Sonata Arctica
All three were close to making my honorables.
I've liked Green Carnation since the mid 2000s. I went on a binge when they played ProgPower the first time (and the second too I guess) and a huge binge during the pandemic.
I *loved* Sonata Arctica's last album, but it feels like I was the only one. :)
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I was the only ranker for:
24. No-Man
22. Blinker the Star
20. Howard Jones
18. Tiles
17. Pat Metheny Group
12. Level 42
Honestly kind of surprised no one else put in for No-Man given the SW factor. The others, I figured I'd be alone on. "The Way Up" by PMG and "August Everywhere" by Blinker the Star are top-20 albums for me all-time so they had to make my list somewhere.
I have two great albums by Tiles but I didnt have the Presents of Mind to put them on my list.
:lol
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I don't think Haken ever really fit into the djent category.
Less so than the primary ones, sure, but they didn't get the nickname "Djentle Djiant" earlier on for nothing.
But I also thought Tesseract had a chance - they get a lot of praise here but maybe it's from only the same handful of people.
People like RJ not submitting didn't help either. Dunno if they would have made the cut, but I know he's a fairly big fan and didn't vote. And people like me who did include them didn't have them that high on the list, so it only helped a little bit.
I *loved* Sonata Arctica's last album, but it feels like I was the only one. :)
My consideration of them is primarily based on the first four albums. Unia and later didn't hit me nearly as much, yet anyway.
Autumn is a band I already knew (I had randomly found My New Time in a used CD store and really liked it), but I am exploring more of them too. In fact, I just got their Altitude album (snuck it in with some other stuff in an order ;) ). Nevermore - well, enough said.
Excellent. Definitely curious about your opinion on Altitude. It and Stacking Smoke are basically my interchangeable favorites from them.
Nevermore is another band I imagine might have done better years ago. I think their fanbase at this point here is Kade, Faizoff, and us, which is fascinating given how many elements they have that should appeal to various sets of people. Other posters who should be prime candidates for fandom of them here aren't crazy about them for various reasons, regretfully.
15 Siouxsie and the Banshees
Probably in my top 150 or so.
9. Sevendust
Just missed the cut for me, in the upper 20s.
7. Charon
Didn't expect to see them on someone's list. You might have a bit of overlap in enjoying this sound with Nick and I.
Ok ok, what about Rush + Limp Bizkit?
The closest you get to that is maybe something like Kadinja, I guess. Certainly not a combination most have the stomach for!
I've always said that for me, Dream Theater was Iron Maiden and Rush crammed together and Steve Perry singing on top.
Now I really want to hear this.
44 Depeche Mode
13 Type O Negative
On my list, and almost made my honorable mentions. If more than one of their albums were on the level of October Rust they definitely would have been.
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I haven't listened to Haken's last few albums, so maybe something's changed, but I don't think there was ever anything remotely djenty about them. They used the stereotypical downtuned chug riffs like twice maybe, but I feel like you need more than that to be djent.
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I haven't listened to Haken's last few albums, so maybe something's changed, but I don't think there was ever anything remotely djenty about them. They used the stereotypical downtuned chug riffs like twice maybe, but I feel like you need more than that to be djent.
Yeah, about that... :lol
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Are we gatekeeping who can be called djent now? :rollin
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Following up with a short write up on the red ones...
25 Moon Safari (favorite album: Lovers End, favorite song: Heartland)
I'm a late comer to the Moon Safari fandom. Was going to see Fish live back in 2018 and a favorite of mine was the support, Doris Brendel & Lee Dunham, but for economic reasons I think they did not get to support on the Scandinavian concerts (Luckily Doris still did backing vocals for Fish so I got to see her at least).
The support was Moon Safari whom I haden't heard before but listened to before the concert, became a fan and bought their discography on bandcamp.
Such joyous music with awesome harmonius vocals.
Can't wait for Himlabacken part 2 that is released on the 8th of December.
Take a listen to Heartland, my favorite song from Moon Safari:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuB48k2CVMY
24 Fish (favorite album: Vigil In A Wilderness of Mirrors, favorite song: The High Wood)
I was a huge fan of Marillion in the Fish days and have stayed a fan of Fish. Marillion has lost me but Fish has done great stuff.
Weltschmertz was my album of the year so if that is indeed his last one he ended on a high.
Unfortunately for different reasons I have not got to see Fish live more than in 2018.
If you don't have time to listen to The High Wood then at least listen to Shadowplay.... such a fantastic song by Fish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaG-gqVo41U
23 Hansson de Wolfe United (favorite album: Iskalla Killen (Full Av Mänsklig Värme), favorite song: Var Kommer Barnen In?)
Not at all surprised that I was the only one voting for Hansson de Wolfe United. A Swedish artpop group that was mostly active in the 80-ties.
Well they were a staple of my teenage years and have stayed with me since then. Just great music with fantastic lyrics.
Never saw them live back in the day but they have reformed so maybe...
Here is my favorite song Var kommer barnen in?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yezvOabSE5Y
22 Kaipa (favorite album: Sattyg, favorite song: A Map of Your Secret World)
Kaipa have been around for ages but I have not been a fan for that many years. I'm mainly a fan of the later albums, but those albums....
So goood. Unfortunately Hans Lundin does not want to play live anymore so my chances of getting to see them live are non existant.
Here is A Map of Your Secret World:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJAEEcmVe_g
20 Gojira (favorite album: From Mars to Sirius, favorite song: Flying Whales)
Could have been here or maybe at the Mike Portnoy forum that I read about Gojira and their then new album From Mars to Sirius.
Got interrested and sampled some songs... loved it and never looked back.
Didn't get to to see them live until many years later in 2017 but then I have seen them in 20129 and 2022 too.... marvellous live band
This is soo fricking good metal.... Flying Whales:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-XaaTqOICU
17 The Neal Morse Band (favorite album: The Great Adventure, favorite song: Breath of Angels)
I had been listening to Spock's Beard since I saw them opening for Dream Theater on the Metropolis 2000 tour.
Somehow I did not listen to Neal Morse solo for many years.
A friend sent me some extra CDs and DVDs he had and I realised I had been too worried that Neal's faith would stop me from liking the music.
Well Similitude of a Dream was released and I totally loved it and travelled 5 hours to see the show. Seen them twice after and what a band...
The voices fit soo good together and Neal, Mike and Eric really shine on their instruments. But without Bill and Randy they would not be the magic group they are.
Really hope we get more music from this lineup in the future even though Mike is now back in Dream Theater.
Sorry, not finding the video I was hoping to find so here is another great song, Welcome to the World:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k18EfI42NsQ
16 Jellyfish (favorite album: Bellybutton, favorite song: Joining a Fanclub)
Was sitting watching MTV back in the day when The King is Half Undressed started playing.... wow. This was my music. Bought the album the next day.
Totally loved it. Luckily I was in London when Jellyfish played live on the Bellybutton tour and managed to get tickets.
Standing close to the stage with the singer standing at a small drumset close to the edge was really special. A favorite moment of mine.
Unfortunately I did not get to see them live after the second album and then they disbanded.
Here is Joining a fanclub:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JojV8kNfWK8
13 The Violet Hour (favorite album: The Fire Sermon, favorite song: Dream of Me)
Was at the front to see Marillion in 1991 when the support act blew my mind. They were called The Violet Hour and had a very charismatic female singer / flutist called Doris Brendel (see Moon Safari above).
That dat they blew Marillion of the stage for me and I bought the album the next day. Also bought all singles from that album.
Unfortunately they disbanded after the tour and only released the one album... but it's one of my favorite albums ever, called The Fire Sermon.
Here is Dream of Me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyhilhpVRAY
11 iamthemorning (favorite album: Lighthouse, favorite song: 5/4)
Was talking to my favorite promotor Progressive Circus about my newfound love Beatrix Players and he recommended iamthemorning.
He was actually planning a mini festival in Malmö that would include them (and Anneke van Giersbergen solo and with VUUR, Promise and the monster and Merit Hemmingsson).
Listened and fell in love immediateley.
A duo from St Peterburg in Russia (now living in the UK) with Marjana Semkina on vocals and the fantastic Gleb Kolyadin on keyboards calling in different musiscians everytime.
I have now seen them live twice one a heavier sound and one a more chamber sound with strings. Love that they can sound soo different.
Here is 5/4 a fantastic song live from the House of Arts in Moscow (great version):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju_Oe2o3FPk
10 A.C.T (favorite album: The Last Epic favorite song: Personalities)
The band I have seen most live after Dream Thetater is A.C.T from Malmö in Sweden. A fantastic live act....
They are clearly inspired by my favorite band City Boy, espescially on my favorite album of theirs Last Epic.
Personalities is quite a long one so I leave you with Take it Easy instead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF7qjgpzsIk
9 Kate Bush (favorite album: Hounds of Love, favorite song: Baboshka)
I was watching swedish television back in the day, and back in the day they played new videos sometimes. They played Running Up That Hill by Kate Bush and I was hooked.
Bought the album and played it soo much. She has released a couple of albums since but she hasen't been very productive... but her output has always been good.
She toured for her first album in 1979 but there was an accident involving a roadie who got killed and she has never toured again.
In 2014 she did a run of sold out shows in London, I tried to get a ticket but failed. There is not even a BlueRay of it, only a live audio release.
One fantastic concert I attended was one of two concerts with The Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra, A choir, A band and Jennie Abrahamsson and Malin Dahlström who did a concert of Kate Bush songs. As close as I have got to see her live.
Here is an early favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xckBwPdo1c
7 IQ (favorite album: Ever, favorite song: Road Of Bones)
Been a fan of IQ for a long time, since early 80-ties but didn't get to see them live until 2017 (thanks to Progressive Circus) when I even got to meet Micheal Holmes at a Pub afterwards. Saw them again in 2019 and 2023... hope to see them again soon
IQ is a band where even their least good output is excellent. Their least good output is when their singer Peter Nicholls had left the band. Their in my opinion best album is the one where he returned, Ever.
Here is The Darkest Hour from Ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELenx5QYtY8
1 City Boy (favorite album: The Day The Earth Caught Fire, favorite song: Life On The Balcony)
City boy only existed between 1976 to 1981 (albumwise) and I never got to hear them during their active years.
Some of you might recognise the producer they had who later got to fame, John 'Mutt' Lange.
Mike Slamer their guitarrist is a favorite of mine and the vocals of the group so fine... might be a reason I like Neal Morse Band so much because of the harmonious vocals.
I'll leave you with the title track of The Day The Eart Caught Fire*:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uQGaU3Obsc
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1 City Boy (favorite album: The Day The Earth Caught Fire, favorite song: Life On The Balcony)
City boy only existed between 1976 to 1981 (albumwise) and I never got to hear them during their active years.
Some of you might recognise the producer they had who later got to fame, John 'Mutt' Lange.
Mike Slamer their guitarrist is a favorite of mine and the vocals of the group so fine... might be a reason I like Neal Morse Band so much because of the harmonious vocals.
I'll leave you with the title track of The Day The Eart Caught Fire*:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uQGaU3Obsc
Not sure I've ever heard of them. That video! :lol
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1 City Boy (favorite album: The Day The Earth Caught Fire, favorite song: Life On The Balcony)
City boy only existed between 1976 to 1981 (albumwise) and I never got to hear them during their active years.
Some of you might recognise the producer they had who later got to fame, John 'Mutt' Lange.
Mike Slamer their guitarrist is a favorite of mine and the vocals of the group so fine... might be a reason I like Neal Morse Band so much because of the harmonious vocals.
I'll leave you with the title track of The Day The Eart Caught Fire*:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uQGaU3Obsc
Not sure I've ever heard of them. That video! :lol
It's old but gold....
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I was the only ranker for:
24. No-Man
22. Blinker the Star
20. Howard Jones
18. Tiles
17. Pat Metheny Group
12. Level 42
Honestly kind of surprised no one else put in for No-Man given the SW factor. The others, I figured I'd be alone on. "The Way Up" by PMG and "August Everywhere" by Blinker the Star are top-20 albums for me all-time so they had to make my list somewhere.
I feel like I would've placed No-Man somewhere in my top 50 but not 25. Same goes for Tiles. I didn't think anyone else on here knew who they were given how little they're talked about.
-Marc.
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odd No-Man received votes buy Blakfield did not? :o
I would never expect No-Man to have more fans than Blackfield, but then again, it all sort of falls under Steven Wilson IMO. Why if I had voted, I would have voted for Kevin Gilbert believing it was not just his solo music, but all of the bands he was in.
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I was the only ranker for:
24. No-Man
22. Blinker the Star
20. Howard Jones
18. Tiles
17. Pat Metheny Group
12. Level 42
Honestly kind of surprised no one else put in for No-Man given the SW factor. The others, I figured I'd be alone on. "The Way Up" by PMG and "August Everywhere" by Blinker the Star are top-20 albums for me all-time so they had to make my list somewhere.
I feel like I would've placed No-Man somewhere in my top 50 but not 25. Same goes for Tiles. I didn't think anyone else on here knew who they were given how little they're talked about.
-Marc.
I know of Tiles mostly from old Magna Carta promo slips that were included with other Magna Carta artist’s albums. I have heard a little bit of them and know they are very Rush-like (Canadians, and Terry Brown produced them, right?). And I know MP played on one of their albums. So now you know everything I know about Tiles!
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I was the only ranker for:
24. No-Man
22. Blinker the Star
20. Howard Jones
18. Tiles
17. Pat Metheny Group
12. Level 42
Honestly kind of surprised no one else put in for No-Man given the SW factor. The others, I figured I'd be alone on. "The Way Up" by PMG and "August Everywhere" by Blinker the Star are top-20 albums for me all-time so they had to make my list somewhere.
I feel like I would've placed No-Man somewhere in my top 50 but not 25. Same goes for Tiles. I didn't think anyone else on here knew who they were given how little they're talked about.
-Marc.
I know of Tiles mostly from old Magna Carta promo slips that were included with other Magna Carta artist’s albums. I have heard a little bit of them and know they are very Rush-like (Canadians, and Terry Brown produced them, right?). And I know MP played on one of their albums. So now you know everything I know about Tiles!
Their last album, released in 2016, a double album titled Pretending 2 Run, featured quite a few guest musicians, including Mike and Max Portnoy, as well as Ian Anderson, Adam Holzman, and Colin Edwin. Their 2008 album Fly Paper featured some guitar from Alex Lifeson as well.
They are pretty Rush inspired, and I believe they once opened for Dream Theater back in the day. There's some video clips around the internet of Mike jamming with them to some Rush tunes that's pretty fun to check out.
They had a great run from 94-08, but they've only released one album in the past 15 years (the aforementioned double album in 2016). I'd love to see more from them but according to wikipedia, their vocalist retired in April 2018 after their 25th Anniversary tour. With only 6 studio albums, they had a solid discography and if you're itching for more music like Rush and Enchant, I would definitely check them out. My entry to them as a band was with Window Dressing, which might still be my favorite of theirs, which features the opening title track at 17 minutes!
-Marc.
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odd No-Man received votes buy Blakfield did not? :o
I would never expect No-Man to have more fans than Blackfield, but then again, it all sort of falls under Steven Wilson IMO. Why if I had voted, I would have voted for Kevin Gilbert believing it was not just his solo music, but all of the bands he was in.
Yeah, this was the dilemma with listing artists who are known for working with several projects. Kevin Gilbert was one I wouldn’t have been able to rank because my favorite thing he did was Toy Matinee, though I also like Thud and Shaming on the True. I know he did Giraffe stuff too, and lots of unreleased/posthumous stuff,, but I’m not familiar enough with him even though I like what I know.
If we had done 50 I probably would have had Tim Bowness listed as a solo artist, but neither of Steven Wilson or No-Man.
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I'm going to run this again next year but if I were to guess the top 10 wouldn't change but I'd love to see how the other 15 would.
This one is your thing, but with a top 50, having everyone submit a top 50, rather than just a top 25, would likely result in slightly different results.
I'd probably keep it at 25, or maybe 30 and then posting a top 50. I think getting 50 would be more challenging for folks but we'll see.
It would probably be more challenging for you to compile than for people to make lists, especially given that dozens of people now have a working top 25 or more to refine next year.
53. Paradise Lost - 57
Wow, they got closer than I thought to the top 50! Obviously, 23 out of the 57 points are from me ;) But then someone else other than me and Wardy must've had them...who is (are) the fellow PL fan(s) here?
Obviously I am but not enough to get anywhere near my list. Not enough time spent with their discography, particularly the post-90s albums.
Sentenced - 15
The Gathering - 12
Dark Tranquillity - 7
Skyclad - 4
Looks like these are the ones that only got votes from me. Not particularly surprised by Sentenced and Skyclad...a bit surprised by being the only one having The Gathering, perhaps, given the appreciation Anneke gets here from some of her other collaborations. Dark Tranquillity too.
The "other" "other" DT was on my honorables. As Luke said, just too many competing bands. They'd have been in the top 25 if this was 15-20 years ago. Sentenced might be in my top 150. Definitely a shame about The Gathering, another in my top 150 or so probably, I just happen to like some of the bands inspired directly or indirectly by them even more.
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Their 2008 album Fly Paper featured some guitar from Alex Lifeson as well.
Huh..I have this on CD. Bought it when it came out. Haven't heard it in ages. I remember generally liking it.
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odd No-Man received votes buy Blakfield did not? :o
I would never expect No-Man to have more fans than Blackfield, but then again, it all sort of falls under Steven Wilson IMO. Why if I had voted, I would have voted for Kevin Gilbert believing it was not just his solo music, but all of the bands he was in.
Yeah, this affected a ton of artists. Do you vote for the band they're most known for, your favorite, their name as a solo artist? Everyone comes down differently on this and you get vote-splitting.
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Their 2008 album Fly Paper featured some guitar from Alex Lifeson as well.
Huh..I have this on CD. Bought it when it came out. Haven't heard it in ages. I remember generally liking it.
I have their Presents of Mind album which was produced by Terry Brown and I absolutely love that album. I can’t remember why now I never got around to checking out any of the rest of their stuff. Too bad they hung it up.
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I have two great albums by Tiles but I didnt have the Presents of Mind to put them on my list.
LOL!
Their last album, released in 2016, a double album titled Pretending 2 Run, featured quite a few guest musicians, including Mike and Max Portnoy, as well as Ian Anderson, Adam Holzman, and Colin Edwin. Their 2008 album Fly Paper featured some guitar from Alex Lifeson as well.
They are pretty Rush inspired, and I believe they once opened for Dream Theater back in the day. There's some video clips around the internet of Mike jamming with them to some Rush tunes that's pretty fun to check out.
They had a great run from 94-08, but they've only released one album in the past 15 years (the aforementioned double album in 2016). I'd love to see more from them but according to wikipedia, their vocalist retired in April 2018 after their 25th Anniversary tour. With only 6 studio albums, they had a solid discography and if you're itching for more music like Rush and Enchant, I would definitely check them out. My entry to them as a band was with Window Dressing, which might still be my favorite of theirs, which features the opening title track at 17 minutes!
-Marc.
Excellent post!
I was at their "farewell" show for vocalist Paul Rarick in 2018, which was recorded for video, but as of now hasn't been released. I think they did a couple shows after that too, but at this point I'd doubt they'll ever produce any new music again. It was always a side gig for them, they had day jobs and real lives, but the closest they came to fame was probably the tour opening for Dream Theater in 1999.
I really like Fence the Clear, Presents of Mind, Window Dressing, and Pretending 2 Run. The s/t debut is alright, and Fly Paper is just OK (really don't like the production on that one). I think their strength was in Chris Herin's approach to songwriting -- lyrical wordplay, interesting chord voicings, contrasting heavier bits with quieter instrumentation. A lot of stuff Rush is good at, but that they put their own spin on.
Favorite songs: Checkerboards, Facing Failure, Reasonable Doubt, Capture the Flag, Weightless, Backsliding
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44 Depeche Mode
13 Type O Negative
On my list, and almost made my honorable mentions. If more than one of their albums were on the level of October Rust they definitely would have been.
For me October Rust, World Coming Down, and Life is Killing me is all on the same level. Then Dead Again and Bloody Kisses are just a slight step down.
I'm a little surprised no one else had Enslaved on their list.
I'm less surprised no one else had Moonsorrow on their list :biggrin:
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Their 2008 album Fly Paper featured some guitar from Alex Lifeson as well.
Huh..I have this on CD. Bought it when it came out. Haven't heard it in ages. I remember generally liking it.
I have their Presents of Mind album which was produced by Terry Brown and I absolutely love that album. I can’t remember why now I never got around to checking out any of the rest of their stuff. Too bad they hung it up.
Presents of Mind is my favorite too. Really good. I do enjoy their s/t debut too, though. Especially strong Rush influence on that one.
BTW, wasn't the band originally "discovered" (or signed, maybe?) by Gene Simmons? Or am I misremembering entirely? ;)
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I like the 1st 3 Tiles albums. I recall they went on tour with Dream Theater in Europe in '99? and I thought they would blow up, but they didn't really. The albums after Presents of Mind I coild never get fully into, although part of that could be my interest in "NeoProg" wasn't as big after 1999/2000/2001. I kind of remember getting more into Enchant at that time, and found Enchant more engaging than Tiles.
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Do we get to see how the list would've looked if every band just received one point, so just total votes, not taking placement into account?
I appreciate it may be a ballache, so don't worry if that's the case.
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Second half of this post.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3061219#msg3061219
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Second half of this post.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=58632.msg3061219#msg3061219
:facepalm:
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So my list. Bolded made the list (all 4 of them ;D)
25 Garbage
24 Jimmy Eat World
23 Catherine Wheel
22 The Who
21 The Tragically Hip
20 Okkervil River
19 Avantasia
18 Iron Maiden
17 Big Big Train
16 Kamelot
15 The Kinks
14 The National
13 R.E.M.
12 Ghost
11 The Decemberists
10 Mew
9 David Bowie
8 Dirt Poor Robins
7 First Aid Kit
6 Coheed & Cambria
5 Simon & Garfunkel
4 Seven Spires
3 Lana Del Rey
2 The Dear Hunter
1 Pearl Jam
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That doesn't quite get you there, DT gets much more "metal" than either. Metallica + Yes is closer.
DT is more metal than Iron Maiden?
I think Rush+Iron Maiden or Rush+Metallica works. Or maybe all three. Rush is a huge influence that I think you can hear more even directly than their other influences.
Maiden has nothing in the stratosphere of "Lie"/"The Mirror", "The Glass Prison", "The Dark Eternal Night", "A Nightmare To Remember", etc. Honestly even Metallica isn't a perfect comparison, their aesthetics are almost always rooted in 80s metal origins, whereas DT continued to accumulate 90s and 00s metal trappings.
I picked Yes because of the continual keyboard presence regardless of era.
I would agree with this. I actually never heard much direct Iron Maiden influence in DT music. And when DT's music gets "crunchier" (I'm thinking relatively speaking, even in albums like I&W), I feel Metallica's influence jumps out more. That's what I remembered thinking when I first heard Pull Me Under. Then I also agree in later albums there was more 90s/00s metal influence in the heavier songs.
As for Rush - obviously all the DT guys are massively influenced. Although, if I think about it, I can really hear it mostly on WDADU - some songs sound like Rush playing 80s proto-prog metal. On I&W, not as much. There's more of a, dare I say it, AOR influence and Yes/Marillion-esque prog mixed in with Metallica. Maybe it's the production too, and the way the keyboards sound.
The Rush influence comes back strong in certain songs, of course...Trial of Tears, The Looking Glass, the intro to Surrender to Reason, Transcending Time (to some extent)...
I hear it ALL OVER I&W, but especially in Learning To Live.
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Learning to Live is a straight up Heart of the Sunrise homage.
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Everyone has been waiting for the final list!:
Kansas - 55
Styx - 46
Triumph - 40
Ozzy Osbourne - 24
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - 20
Kansas came close.
Styx got 18 of their 46 points from me, so I'm guessing 2-3 others included them.
Triumph got 16 of their 40 points from me. Unless Chad had them at #2, I'm guessing at least one other person had them on their list.
Still surprised at how poorly Ozzy and ELP did. C'est la vie!
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Everyone has been waiting for the final list!:
Kansas - 55
Styx - 46
Triumph - 40
Ozzy Osbourne - 24
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - 20
Kansas came close.
Styx got 18 of their 46 points from me, so I'm guessing 2-3 others included them.
Triumph got 16 of their 40 points from me. Unless Chad had them at #2, I'm guessing at least one other person had them on their list.
Still surprised at how poorly Ozzy and ELP did. C'est la vie!
ELP, Triumph, and Styx would all make my top 100. There's just so many good bands out there and so many different genres I like, it's hard to cram all of those classics into a top 25.
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Everyone has been waiting for the final list!:
Kansas - 55
Styx - 46
Triumph - 40
Ozzy Osbourne - 24
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - 20
Kansas came close.
Styx got 18 of their 46 points from me, so I'm guessing 2-3 others included them.
Triumph got 16 of their 40 points from me. Unless Chad had them at #2, I'm guessing at least one other person had them on their list.
Still surprised at how poorly Ozzy and ELP did. C'est la vie!
Chad had them at #5. Chad also had Styx (22nd)
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Styx would have been my number 10, which would have given them enough points to squeak into the top 50. This is all my fault. :lol
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If you were the true superfan of Swift that you proclaim yourself to be and had her in your top 4, she'd be in the top 50.
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"Come Sail Away with Taylor: Swift's Tribute to Styx" :D
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Learning to Live is a straight up Heart of the Sunrise homage.
I need to listen to it again with that in mind. HotS is one of my favorite Yes songs ever.
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Learning to Live is a straight up Heart of the Sunrise homage.
I need to listen to it again with that in mind. HotS is one of my favorite Yes songs ever.
It’s mostly in that bass groove at the beginning. I actually heard LTL before I heard HOTS, but the first time I did hear it I thought “Oh…that’s where DT got that from!”
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As a side note, on the ending of Learning to Live, the chorus vocals on the fadeout are singing the same interval as the keyboards in the closing section of Rush's Analog Kid.
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Learning to Live is a straight up Heart of the Sunrise homage.
I need to listen to it again with that in mind. HotS is one of my favorite Yes songs ever.
It’s mostly in that bass groove at the beginning. I actually heard LTL before I heard HOTS, but the first time I did hear it I thought “Oh…that’s where DT got that from!”
Thirty-one years after I first heard LTL, this is the first time I ever heard anyone make this connection. Very interesting, and I can see why you'd think that (I was familiar with HOTS several years before I heard LTL and never made the connection myself). Now I want someone to ask JM (or whomever came up with that section) if they were thinking about HOTS at the time.
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Wow, I have never thought Learning to Live sounded anything like Heart of the Sunrise, and this is the first time I have ever seen/heard anyone make that assertion. DTF strikes again. :lol
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Wow, I have never thought Learning to Live sounded anything like Heart of the Sunrise, and this is the first time I have ever seen/heard anyone make that assertion. DTF strikes again. :lol
“Homage” and “sounds like” are slightly different concepts. Just so we are clear.
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That doesn't quite get you there, DT gets much more "metal" than either. Metallica + Yes is closer.
DT is more metal than Iron Maiden?
I think Rush+Iron Maiden or Rush+Metallica works. Or maybe all three. Rush is a huge influence that I think you can hear more even directly than their other influences.
Maiden has nothing in the stratosphere of "Lie"/"The Mirror", "The Glass Prison", "The Dark Eternal Night", "A Nightmare To Remember", etc. Honestly even Metallica isn't a perfect comparison, their aesthetics are almost always rooted in 80s metal origins, whereas DT continued to accumulate 90s and 00s metal trappings.
I picked Yes because of the continual keyboard presence regardless of era.
I would agree with this. I actually never heard much direct Iron Maiden influence in DT music. And when DT's music gets "crunchier" (I'm thinking relatively speaking, even in albums like I&W), I feel Metallica's influence jumps out more. That's what I remembered thinking when I first heard Pull Me Under. Then I also agree in later albums there was more 90s/00s metal influence in the heavier songs.
As for Rush - obviously all the DT guys are massively influenced. Although, if I think about it, I can really hear it mostly on WDADU - some songs sound like Rush playing 80s proto-prog metal. On I&W, not as much. There's more of a, dare I say it, AOR influence and Yes/Marillion-esque prog mixed in with Metallica. Maybe it's the production too, and the way the keyboards sound.
The Rush influence comes back strong in certain songs, of course...Trial of Tears, The Looking Glass, the intro to Surrender to Reason, Transcending Time (to some extent)...
I hear it ALL OVER I&W, but especially in Learning To Live.
You mean Rush or Maiden?
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When I first heard I&W, my first thought was THIS is the music Rush should be playing.
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Like I said, when I first listened to I&W I literally did not know Rush yet. But even after getting to know them (and them becoming my favorite band ;)), I don't know if that's the first thing that comes to my mind listening to that album. At least not as much as, say, with WDADU.
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Wow, I have never thought Learning to Live sounded anything like Heart of the Sunrise, and this is the first time I have ever seen/heard anyone make that assertion. DTF strikes again. :lol
“Homage” and “sounds like” are slightly different concepts. Just so we are clear.
I can hear it now, j-dude. And they're both 11:30ish!
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Wow, I have never thought Learning to Live sounded anything like Heart of the Sunrise, and this is the first time I have ever seen/heard anyone make that assertion. DTF strikes again. :lol
“Homage” and “sounds like” are slightly different concepts. Just so we are clear.
I can hear it now, j-dude. And they're both 11:30ish!
I can too (in the baseline on the quiet part of the intro at least).
So they borrowed from Yes and Rush on that track!
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:hat
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My entries that no one else had:
24,Fish
23,Hansson de Wolfe United
22,Kaipa
16,Jellyfish
13,The Violet Hour
11,iamthemorning
10,A.C.T S
9,Kate Bush
1,City Boy
Not too surprised with a few of these but.... Kate Bush shold have got more votes.... Fish and Jellyfish too
Is that the City Boy with Lol Mason?
I’m good mates with his family.
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My entries that no one else had:
24,Fish
23,Hansson de Wolfe United
22,Kaipa
16,Jellyfish
13,The Violet Hour
11,iamthemorning
10,A.C.T S
9,Kate Bush
1,City Boy
Not too surprised with a few of these but.... Kate Bush shold have got more votes.... Fish and Jellyfish too
Is that the City Boy with Lol Mason?
I’m good mates with his family.
Yes it is. Googled. Funny thing: ‘Heartache Avenue’ from one of his other bands, was his big earner, I think.
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My entries that no one else had:
24,Fish
23,Hansson de Wolfe United
22,Kaipa
16,Jellyfish
13,The Violet Hour
11,iamthemorning
10,A.C.T S
9,Kate Bush
1,City Boy
Not too surprised with a few of these but.... Kate Bush shold have got more votes.... Fish and Jellyfish too
Is that the City Boy with Lol Mason?
I’m good mates with his family.
That is indeed City Boy with Lol Mason.... the most underappreciated group of all time
Noone knows about them except a very few choose who all serm to hold them in the highest esteem.
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My entries that no one else had:
24,Fish
23,Hansson de Wolfe United
22,Kaipa
16,Jellyfish
13,The Violet Hour
11,iamthemorning
10,A.C.T S
9,Kate Bush
1,City Boy
Not too surprised with a few of these but.... Kate Bush shold have got more votes.... Fish and Jellyfish too
Is that the City Boy with Lol Mason?
I’m good mates with his family.
Yes it is. Googled. Funny thing: ‘Heartache Avenue’ from one of his other bands, was his big earner, I think.
Maisonettes.... yeah
Good but not as good in my view
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Following up with a short write up on the red ones...
.... snip
1 City Boy (favorite album: The Day The Earth Caught Fire, favorite song: Life On The Balcony)
City boy only existed between 1976 to 1981 (albumwise) and I never got to hear them during their active years.
Some of you might recognise the producer they had who later got to fame, John 'Mutt' Lange.
Mike Slamer their guitarrist is a favorite of mine and the vocals of the group so fine... might be a reason I like Neal Morse Band so much because of the harmonious vocals.
I'll leave you with the title track of The Day The Eart Caught Fire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uQGaU3Obsc
Here is Lol Mason with a white jacket and black beard.
He passed too soon. RIP
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Wow, I have never thought Learning to Live sounded anything like Heart of the Sunrise, and this is the first time I have ever seen/heard anyone make that assertion. DTF strikes again. :lol
“Homage” and “sounds like” are slightly different concepts. Just so we are clear.
Crystal. :tup :tup
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So my list. Bolded made the list (all 4 of them ;D)
25 Garbage
24 Jimmy Eat World
23 Catherine Wheel
22 The Who
21 The Tragically Hip
20 Okkervil River
19 Avantasia
18 Iron Maiden
17 Big Big Train
16 Kamelot
15 The Kinks
14 The National
13 R.E.M.
12 Ghost
11 The Decemberists
10 Mew
9 David Bowie
8 Dirt Poor Robins
7 First Aid Kit
6 Coheed & Cambria
5 Simon & Garfunkel
4 Seven Spires
3 Lana Del Rey
2 The Dear Hunter
1 Pearl Jam
That's a good list, though. I love a ton of those bands, but they just didn't rise up to the level of the top 25. Garbage, REM, The Kinks, The Who...
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Wow, I have never thought Learning to Live sounded anything like Heart of the Sunrise, and this is the first time I have ever seen/heard anyone make that assertion. DTF strikes again. :lol
“Homage” and “sounds like” are slightly different concepts. Just so we are clear.
I can hear it now, j-dude. And they're both 11:30ish!
Well HOTS is more like 10:30 as the last minute is silence gap and the WHH reprise.
-Marc.