I've got a long drive today, so I'm making a driving setlist.
Instead of "best openers" or "best closers" I picked a random number, 4.
Which are, in your opinion, the best #4 tracks on any release. Even the live ones.
I'm going to start it off with Awake's 'Erotomania'.
I guess it is Erotomania, followed by The Great debate.
The Dark Eternal Night, followed by Hollow Years. There aren't any of the "heavyweights" to contend with, but I love both of these tracks.
Surrounded
Great list going! Keep it up! Gonna be a nice drive!
By the way, if you're picking a track from a live album, say so.
An angels kiss now fallen. Descending scarlet cuts the skyyyyy.
Quote from: RaiseTheKnife on August 30, 2009, 05:55:53 AM
An angels kiss now fallen. Descending scarlet cuts the skyyyyy.
Another Hand! Nice pick! :metal
Quote from: Norwood on August 30, 2009, 06:01:44 AM
Quote from: RaiseTheKnife on August 30, 2009, 05:55:53 AM
An angels kiss now fallen. Descending scarlet cuts the skyyyyy.
Another Hand! Nice pick! :metal
He's actually talking about The Killing Hand.
Quote from: ResultsMayVary on August 30, 2009, 06:48:55 AM
He's actually talking about The Killing Hand.
The song's name isn't 'Another Hand/The Killing Hand'?
Quote from: Norwood on August 30, 2009, 06:51:04 AM
Quote from: ResultsMayVary on August 30, 2009, 06:48:55 AM
He's actually talking about The Killing Hand.
The song's name isn't 'Another Hand/The Killing Hand'?
The original WDADU 4th track is just "The Killing Hand." Another Hand was written about WDADU came out.
Another Hand is the name of the bridging piece of music they used to play live between Another Day and The Killing Hand, hence the name. The track on the album is just The Killing Hand though. It is Another Hand/The Killing Hand on Live at the Marquee though.
Ahh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info!
Oh I'll say it...
"I Walk Beside You"
I *love* the song, and right next to it would be "Hollow Years" as two of my favorite 4th Tracks. Throw in "Erotomania", "Surrounded" and "The Dark Eternal Night" you have my top five 4th tracks!
-Marc.
Here are my rankings of all of the fourth tracks. The number beside each track is that song's overall ranking in my Dream Theater favourites list.
19 The Killing Hand
21 The Shattered Fortress
32 Honor Thy Father
33 The Dark Eternal Night
45 The Great Debate
56 Erotomania
64 Hollow Years
70 Surrounded
86 I Walk Beside You
90 Through My Words
"Surrounded." Great lyrics and I love the piano opening and closing. Beautiful.
The Great Debate. Top 10 song, and I'm in the club. :D
1. The Great Debate
2. Honor Thy Father
3. Surrounded
The Great Debate
3rd fav DT song
Surrounded
Surrounded and The Shattered Fortress came to my mind first.
I'm surprised I'm the only one who voted for Erotomania. :o
The lack of love for "Erotomania" sickens me (here and in my thread about determining the board's favorite DT song). :censored
Erotomania was voted for 3 times. First by myself, in my first post. :yarr
Surrounded, easily. Erotomania comes in at second.
My recommendation (not in order of favourites, but in a good listening order):
I Walk Beside You
The Great Debate
Honor Thy Father
Erotomania
The Killing Hand
The Shattered Fortress
Hollow Years
The Dark Eternal Night
Through My Words
The Killing Hand
Erotomania
Surrounded
The Shattered Fortress
Hollow Years
Honor Thy Father
Through My Words
The Dark Eternal Night
I Walk Beside You
The Great Debate
Something like that.
1. the killing hand
2. erotomania
3. great debate
It's Erotomania...no contest
Honor Thy Father
The Great Debate
Erotomania
The Shattered Fortress
The Dark Eternal Night
The Killing Hand
Surrounded
Hollow Years
I Walk Beside You
Through My Words
My list.
I think the clear-cut choice here is Erotomania.
The Shattered Fortress, The Killing Hand, Hollow Years, and The Great Debate are all great songs, with Erotomania getting an honorable mention. If I had to choose one it would probably be The Shattered Fortress.
Quote from: ReaPsTA on August 31, 2009, 02:32:55 AM
The Killing Hand
Erotomania
Surrounded
The Shattered Fortress
Hollow Years
Honor Thy Father
Through My Words
The Dark Eternal Night
I Walk Beside You
The Great Debate
Something like that.
Don't get me wrong, I like Through My Words, but it barely even counts as an individual song. How can you possibly rank it above those other three tracks?
The Great Debate
The Shattered Fortress
Surrounded
The Dark Eternal Night
Honor Thy Father
Hollow Years
I Walk Beside You
Erotomania
The Killing Hand
Through My Words
^My list^
The Killing Hand. Closely followed by Surrounded.
The Shattered Fortress followed closely by Erotomania. TSF wins for the sheer fact that is contains all of the awesome bombastic qualities of DT, with some of JLB's best vocals (both "look in the mirror..." and "I am responsible...") and one of JP's most killing solos. It's one hell of an eargasm. :metal
Surrounded
Erotomania
Hollow Years
The Killing Hand
The Great Debate
The Shattered Fortress
I Walk Beside You
The Dark Eternal Night
Through My Words
Honor Thy Father
Top two are light years ahead of the rest. Interesting topic idea.
-J
Quote from: The Letter M on August 30, 2009, 07:25:54 AM
Oh I'll say it...
"I Walk Beside You"
I *love* the song, and right next to it would be "Hollow Years" as two of my favorite 4th Tracks. Throw in "Erotomania", "The Great Debate" and "Surrounded" you have my top five 4th tracks!
-Marc.
Fix'd
While they are all great, except TMW, I would be lying if I didn't say The Shattered Fortress.
TGD and Surrounded come close, though.
Shattered Fortress.
This has pointed out to me that position 4 is one of the more weaker slots on most DT albums.
Anyone count Test that Stumped Them All?
Favourite is definitely Erotomania, as it is a top fifteen DT song for me. Following that would be The Killing Hand, as it is a top 25 DT song for me.
Quote from: MykeHavoc on November 10, 2009, 12:48:18 AM
Shattered Fortress.
This has pointed out to me that position 4 is one of the more weaker slots on most DT albums.
Anyone count Test that Stumped Them All?
No, because that's just the fourth movement of one song. But if you want to be stupidly picky, it's really track 9 of SDoIT.
Okay, but it's still the fourth track on the second disc. Not trying to be picky, just expanding on the choices ;)
Quote from: MykeHavoc on November 14, 2009, 02:59:24 PM
Okay, but it's still the fourth track on the second disc. Not trying to be picky, just expanding on the choices ;)
Tis dangerous territory your treading there young lad.
Surrounded wins by like 10000000000000000 miles.
I've never been good at picking favorites. I'll just go by my iTunes play count.
Shattered Fortress
Honor Thy Father
Dark Eternal Night/Through My Words (tie)
The Great Debate
Surrounded
Erotomania
I Walk Beside You
Hollow Years
My list:
Surrounded
The Great Debate
I Walk Beside You
Shattered Fortress
Hollow Years
Erotomania
Through My Words
Dark Eternal Night
Yes, I reeeeallly dislike the Dark Eternal Night.
The Dark Eternal Night
Hollow Years
The Great Debate
Surrounded
Erotomania
Honor Thy Father
The Shattered Fortress
Through My Words
I Walk Beside You
The Killing Hand
derp
Erotomania or The Great Debate.
Honor Thy Father. Shattered Fortress not far behind.
Erotomania (Favorite song from Awake)
The Great Debate
Surrounded
The Shattered Fortress
The Killing Hand
Hollow Years
I Walk Beside You
Honor Thy Father
Through My Words
The Dark Eternal Night
Why did this random ancient thread need to be bumped w/ "derp".
Mods...ban hammer.
cool idea :tup
My favorite is definitely Surrounded.
The Killing Hand
Honor Thy Father
The Great Debate
Erotomania
Afterlife at Score
Surrounded
The number 4 songs don't seem to be that great generally, so I'm predicting This Is the Life will be one of my least favourite from the new album :D
Quote from: DTVT on August 21, 2011, 10:48:05 AM
Why did this random ancient thread need to be bumped w/ "derp".
Mods...ban hammer.
coz i thought it was an interesting topic. doesnt matter how old it is
Still going with TSF
Pretty soon, we'll be adding "This is the Life" to this list! Hopefully it will be somewhere the top of Track 4's!
It's a tough one between Hollow Years and Surrounded, but I'm going to have to go with Hollow Years. It's one of their best ballads.
1. Surrounded
2. The Great Debate
3. The Killing Hand
:metal
Surrounded
Erotomania
Hollow Years
I Walk Beside You
Through My Words
The Killing Hand
The Shattered Fortress
The Great Debate
Honor Thy Father
The Dark Eternal Night
The Great Debate!!! It rocks! It's in my top 10
followed by TDEN and then HTF!
The Shattered fortress is kind of neat too.
The Killing Hand
Erotomania
Surrounded
The Great Debate
The Shattered Fortress
Honor Thy Father
The Dark Eternal Night
I Walk Beside You
LIFE TO SAVE LIFE!! *DUMDUMDUMDUM!*
Yeah.. The Great Debate, easily! :metal
Was going to do live tracks to, and Surrounded appears in the fourth track slot on Chaos In Motion and Live at the Marquee and I'd lump those versions in with the Images and Words version. Hollow Years appears fourth on Budokan and I'd put it with the FII version. Both great!
#1) Surrounded (Images and Words)
#2) Erotomania (Awake) as a whole I'd put A Mind Beside Itself above surrounded, but this is single track.
#3) Hollow Years (Falling Into Infinity)
Non of the other fours stick out too much for me...
1. Surrounded
2. The Great Debate
3. The Killing Hand
4. Hollow Years
5. The rest, way lower.
The Shattered Fortress, easily.
my top 4 track 4s:
Surrounded
The Great Debate
Erotomania
I Walk Beside You
Honorable Mention:
Honor Thy Father
Surrounded
Honor Thy Father
Hollow Years
The Shattered Fortress
Erotomania = Through My Words
The Killing Hand = The Great Debate
The Dark Eternal Night
I Walk Beside You
Quote from: olliemedsy on August 21, 2011, 10:51:29 AM
Quote from: DTVT on August 21, 2011, 10:48:05 AM
Why did this random ancient thread need to be bumped w/ "derp".
Mods...ban hammer.
coz i thought it was an interesting topic. doesnt matter how old it is
His question didn't end with the word "bumped." He was asking why you would resurrect it with a nonsense post like "derp." You didn't even resurrect it with a thread-related post.
That was his question.
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on August 21, 2011, 03:57:44 PM
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Quote from: DTVT on August 21, 2011, 10:48:05 AM
Why did this random ancient thread need to be bumped w/ "derp".
Mods...ban hammer.
coz i thought it was an interesting topic. doesnt matter how old it is
His question didn't end with the word "bumped." He was asking why you would resurrect it with a nonsense post like "derp." You didn't even resurrect it with a thread-related post. That was his question.
ah, i see ;)
surrounded, then erotomania.
htf gets an honorable mention.
The Great Debate
Surrounded
The Killing Hand
The Dark Eternal Night
Honor Thy Father
The Shattered Fortress
Erotomania
Hollow Years
I Walk Beside You
Through My Words
The Great Debate
Erotomania
The Killing Hand
Hollow Years
I Walk Beside You
Honor Thy Father
The Shattered Fortress
Surrounded
The Dark Eternal Night
Through My Words
The Killing Hand
Surrounded
The Shattered Fortress
I Walk Beside You
The Great Debate
Honor Thy Father
The Dark Eternal Night
Through My Words
Erotomania
Hollow Years
I fail to see how Through My Words could be superior to the almighty Erotomania.
Quote from: MasterShakezula on August 21, 2011, 09:10:14 PM
I fail to see how Through My Words could be superior to the almighty Erotomania.
I ranked them equally. Through My Words is short but totally necessary in the album, especially after Overture 1928 and Strange Deja Vu, and before Fatal Tragedy.
Quote from: olliemedsy on August 21, 2011, 05:41:41 PM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on August 21, 2011, 03:57:44 PM
Quote from: olliemedsy on August 21, 2011, 10:51:29 AM
Quote from: DTVT on August 21, 2011, 10:48:05 AM
Why did this random ancient thread need to be bumped w/ "derp".
Mods...ban hammer.
coz i thought it was an interesting topic. doesnt matter how old it is
His question didn't end with the word "bumped." He was asking why you would resurrect it with a nonsense post like "derp." You didn't even resurrect it with a thread-related post. That was his question.
ah, i see ;)
But you still haven't answered.
Easily Killing Hand.
Erotomania
The Killing Hand
The Great Debate
Honor Thy Father
The Great Debate
Surrounded
The Killing Hand
:metal
I'm tied between The Great Debate and The Shattered Fortress :-\
Quote from: RaiseTheKnife on August 30, 2009, 05:55:53 AM
An angels kiss now fallen. Descending scarlet cuts the skyyyyy.
I'm on this guy's side. Top 5 DT track for me.