The "Bend The Clock" Thread

[Dedalus]

The problem is not Myung, neither are the fills. The problem is the lack of a "driving pulse" using the hi-hats or ride; the lack of it makes the section feel like it drags a lot. Listen to Comfortably Numb, The Spirit Carries On and At Wit's End for comparison.

Interesting observation

[durga2112]

Tell me I'm not the only one who gets a The Astonishing vibe from this song - especially the final chorus and outro.

[emtee]

Question to the guitar players here. JP's intro does not sound like any regular tone I'm used to hearing. It's got kind of a 70's era reverb sound...or something different. Is he using a totally different guitar for this or is it just pedal or what?

[bosk1]

This song is fantastic.  The only thing I don't like about it is that the first 90 seconds or so are so gorgeous that I wish there was more of that in the song (although I think the transition into the meatier guitar part is fantastic).

Yeah, I think it would have been cool if, after the first solo, they brought it down and went back to the quiet part again, and then launched into that final, big chorus.  But then again, maybe it would have felt to cliche.  I dunno.  It's still fantastic as-is, so I'm not criticizing. 

[hefdaddy42]

Yeah, I think it would have been cool if, after the first solo, they brought it down and went back to the quiet part again, and then launched into that final, big chorus.  But then again, maybe it would have felt to cliche.  I dunno.  It's still fantastic as-is, so I'm not criticizing. 

Agreed.  And of course, who knows what they might do with it in a live setting.

Either way, right now it's my favorite song on the album.

[Metro]

My favorite song on the album at the moment.

That very first chord reminded me of something, and it's been bugging me the last couple days trying to figure out what it was. It finally came to me this morning. This Mateus Asado vid starts with the same chord.
https://youtu.be/pTt04A_Gph4?si=jT6qYROi-oUTmaJK

[Bentower]

Question to the guitar players here. JP's intro does not sound like any regular tone I'm used to hearing. It's got kind of a 70's era reverb sound...or something different. Is he using a totally different guitar for this or is it just pedal or what?

Could be a different guitar, but if I had to guess I'd say it's his regular axe in a coil-tapped pickup position and his signature amp, only with a slightly hairy tone as opposed to his usual crystal clear clean tone.

[Arkarian]

Question to the guitar players here. JP's intro does not sound like any regular tone I'm used to hearing. It's got kind of a 70's era reverb sound...or something different. Is he using a totally different guitar for this or is it just pedal or what?

Actually, the guitar sound in the intro reminds me of Californication a bit, especially the notes he plays at 00:07.  Might even be the same key.

[emtee]

Thanks for the responses. I would classify it as a "gritty" tone. But later in the song the tone is entirely different.

[The Letter M]

https://youtu.be/ZjT3c49dKYY?si=Xh4In-A3fjO6FIH7

Someone un-faded the fade out as much as they can so you can hear more of the solo at the end!

-Marc.

[ariich]

I can't think of the last time JP has just gone for subtle overdrive rather than full clean or full distortion.

Repentance maybe?

Anyway this song (with the lead in from Are We Dreaming) is my favourite DT song from at least the self titled, maybe even since ADTOE. Very well crafted, really emotionally engaging and with great melodies and harmonies in the vocal lines, especially in the later choruses. 

[Architeuthis]

I don't know why BTC didn't grab me at first. Now it has become a top tier DT song.
The chorus builds up to be more powerful each time they return to it within the song. Out of Reach is similar in that regard, but BTC takes it to the next level.         
I sent a link to this song to a friend that doesn't know  a lot about DT.  This was her response.  "I love it, not only was it freakin awesome, but that guitar solo at the end...WHAAAAT!!! 🤯😎😄"

[Jamesman42]

Great track, as I mentioned in the main thread, the part at 1:30 when the guitar riff starts along with the hi-hat pattern, sounds like something from Operation Mindcrime. It has that vibe.

This little section is one of the best parts of the album. 

And one more thing I love is the (I think) little bass slide right before it goes into that part. Felt some "Someone Like Him" vibes from how that sounds (I am a huge fan of how Myung sounds on "Someone Like Him").

The whole song is a standout with the guitar solo showcasing that JP still fucking has it.

[Northern Lion]

I don't know why BTC didn't grab me at first. Now it has become a top tier DT song.
The chorus builds up to be more powerful each time they return to it within the song. Out of Reach is similar in that regard, but BTC takes it to the next level.         
I sent a link to this song to a friend that doesn't know  a lot about DT.  This was her response.  "I love it, not only was it freakin awesome, but that guitar solo at the end...WHAAAAT!!! 🤯😎😄"

Completely agree, and I do think Out of Reach is a good comparison because it also has an amazing chorus. But, I hope you don't mind if I correct you just a little, Out of Reach only has the chorus once in the whole song, so it doesn't build the same way Bend the Clock does. And forgive me if I'm being too nit picky 😊. Both are stunning balads.

[faizoff]

And one more thing I love is the (I think) little bass slide right before it goes into that part. Felt some "Someone Like Him" vibes from how that sounds (I am a huge fan of how Myung sounds on "Someone Like Him").

Yup that's a bass slide, it is indeed sublime. The track and album are chockful of these moments. 

[Architeuthis]

Completely agree, and I do think Out of Reach is a good comparison because it also has an amazing chorus. But, I hope you don't mind if I correct you just a little, Out of Reach only has the chorus once in the whole song, so it doesn't build the same way Bend the Clock does. And forgive me if I'm being too nit picky 😊. Both are stunning balads.

Now I need to listen to Out of Reach again. I think you might be right. I thought I remembered it going to the chorus two times. Both great songs.

[Zydar]

After having been out for a week now, I keep coming back to this song as one of the highlights of the album. 

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

Behind the song: Bend the Clock

https://youtu.be/nWsbwmByyPg?si=Nl5ipWKXP7uomRt3

[hunnus2000]

Tell me I'm not the only one who gets a The Astonishing vibe from this song - especially the final chorus and outro.

No, you're not the only one! The album is littered with TA references in the music but fans who panned TA will not be to able to recognize it.

[hefdaddy42]

The album is littered with TA references in the music but fans who panned TA will not be to able to recognize it.

Not really.  It has some things that could possibly seem reminiscent of some things in The Astonishing to some people.  I find it EXCEEDINGLY DIFFICULT to believe that they put intentional references to that highly divisive album, on which MP didn't play, on THIS album, which has a completely different subject matter, and is the "reunion" album with MP.

[Dedalus]

I find it EXCEEDINGLY DIFFICULT to believe that they put intentional references to that highly divisive album, on which MP didn't play, on THIS album, which has a completely different subject matter, and is the "reunion" album with MP.

Yeah, I doubt they did that.

The similarities that occur are because as much as people hate it, TA is still DT's music. The guys who made those TA melodies are still there.

[hunnus2000]

Not really.  It has some things that could possibly seem reminiscent of some things in The Astonishing to some people.  I find it EXCEEDINGLY DIFFICULT to believe that they put intentional references to that highly divisive album, on which MP didn't play, on THIS album, which has a completely different subject matter, and is the "reunion" album with MP.

Yes really, it's starts with the NOMACS on the very first song and I think they borrowed from their own catalog. Listen to Dead Asleep. That sounds like a riff used in Dead Asleep Sacrificed Sons.

[hefdaddy42]

Yes really, it's starts with the NOMACS on the very first song and I think they borrowed from their own catalog. 

Well, you think whatever you want, but I cannot conceive that this occurred.  Especially with the goddam NOMACs good grief.

[hunnus2000]

Well, you think whatever you want, but I cannot conceive that this occurred.  Especially with the goddam NOMACs good grief.

Really? You can't hear this? Hell there is a musical reference to Lord Nafaryus. I am not saying they did this consciously but it's there. And yes NOMACS.

[hefdaddy42]

I am not saying they did this consciously but it's there.

Fuck yes you are.

I think they borrowed from their own catalog.

[bosk1]

The similarities that occur are because as much as people hate it, TA is still DT's music. The guys who made those TA melodies are still there.

And not only that, but with JP as the primary composer, it's no wonder that there would be things that sound similar to a work that was a personal labor of love for him.  I too doubt that there are intentional references to TA, but that album and all of its riffs and melodies are part of JP as a writer, so similar-sounding things are bound to come out.

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

I need to give the astonishing another spin like yesterday.

[hunnus2000]

Fuck yes you are.

That response sounds like certain posters on this forum. So you reject that they used the same sounds effects as the NOMACS?

[hefdaddy42]

That response sounds like certain posters on this forum. So you reject that they used the same sounds effects as the NOMACS?

I reject that they intentionally made any references to The Astonishing.  If they used a patch or a riff that is similar, it's coincidental.

[Jamesman42]

Are we seriously arguing with a god?

[genome]

In general Parasomnia sounds like The Astonishing if you dialled down the cheese a bit and gave the songs proper lengths.

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

In general Parasomnia sounds like The Astonishing if you dialled down the cheese a bit and gave the songs proper lengths.

 

[genome]

Some songs more than others. But there are TA vibes all over the place

[Northern Lion]

In general Parasomnia sounds like The Astonishing if you dialled down the cheese a bit and gave the songs proper lengths.

I'm sorry, but I don't understand this. I like both albums and I don't see many similarities.

[SeRoX]

I love DT ballads. But they've never been album's favourite for me until Parasomnia. Bend The Clock is my insant favourite since I heard it first time and I don't think it'll change.