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Started by Max Kuehnau, August 02, 2023, 03:59:11 AM

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Stadler

I don't know why, but I love the fact that he carries an umbrella. 

nikatapi

I'm just glad to see the guys in DT healthy and productive. Age is catching up with all of us either way

ReaperKK

Quote from: nikatapi on April 22, 2024, 05:18:30 AM
I'm just glad to see the guys in DT healthy and productive. Age is catching up with all of us either way

Tell me about it. When insaw that 40th anniversary tour poster I couldn't believe it was 20 (or close enough) years since Score. At most it feels like 10 years ago I was fresh out of high school packing my bags to go to NYC.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on April 20, 2024, 05:19:21 PM
The facial hair color is really making him look a lot older than he is.
Not sure how old YOU are, but I think he looks exactly as old as he is, if not better than most people his age.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

cramx3

Quote from: Stadler on April 22, 2024, 05:07:05 AM
I don't know why, but I love the fact that he carries an umbrella.

:lol it didn't even rain that day

TAC

Quote from: Stadler on April 22, 2024, 05:07:05 AM
I don't know why, but I love the fact that he carries an umbrella.

He must be pushing the new line of JP Majesty Umbrellas.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Lonk

Quote from: cramx3 on April 22, 2024, 08:02:31 AM
:lol it didn't even rain that day
Maybe it's not an umbrella (doesn't look like one). Maybe he got some merch :dunno:

hefdaddy42

Quote from: Lonk on April 22, 2024, 08:13:04 AM
Maybe it's not an umbrella (doesn't look like one). Maybe he got some merch :dunno:
He did.  It's a Judas Priest umbrella.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

cramx3

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on April 22, 2024, 08:14:35 AM
He did.  It's a Judas Priest umbrella.

:lol

I zoomed in, it does look like it has the little velcro latch like an umbrella would.  I would lean more towards umbrella than shirt.

It was cloudy out, it just didn't rain.  Maybe he thought it would, or maybe it did more locally for him where he lives since the concert was probably an hour or so away from him.

Zydar


Stadler

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on April 22, 2024, 07:43:13 AM
Not sure how old YOU are, but I think he looks exactly as old as he is, if not better than most people his age.

He and I are the same age; he is essentially two months older than me (July 12 > September 10).   I think he looks appropriately good for his age. 

I have almost the exact same amount of grey at this point and while my beard isn't as... let's say "robust" as his, it's the same color.  I think you can slightly tell the after-effects of transitioning from color to no color in the ends of his beard/hair.

By the way, Rob always looks so affable.  I'd like to meet him.

emtee

Was thinking last night after listening to QR's "Someone Else" that it would be nice if DT could maybe do a bonus track on DT16 with JLB and a piano only. Just give him a chance to shine and sing something really moving.

TAC

Quote from: emtee on April 24, 2024, 06:29:11 AM
Was thinking last night after listening to QR's "Someone Else" that it would be nice if DT could maybe do a bonus track on DT16 with JLB and a piano only. Just give him a chance to shine and sing something really moving.

I've always been behind this kind of idea, and it's one of the reasons that I probably hold The Astonishing in higher regard than most.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

Adami

Quote from: emtee on April 24, 2024, 06:29:11 AM
Was thinking last night after listening to QR's "Someone Else" that it would be nice if DT could maybe do a bonus track on DT16 with JLB and a piano only. Just give him a chance to shine and sing something really moving.

They did that with Whither, which I really dug. Not sure if they've done it since.
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Lonk

Quote from: Adami on April 24, 2024, 06:32:26 AM
They did that with Whither, which I really dug. Not sure if they've done it since.
Far from Heaven, maybe?

Adami

Quote from: Lonk on April 24, 2024, 07:14:03 AM
Far from Heaven, maybe?

But that was always just piano and vocals and cello or whatever. I think Emtee was talking about taking a full band song and doing a piano/vocals version.

Sadly not many of their songs would really lend itself to that, but I'm sure some would.
www. fanticide.bandcamp . com

TAC

FFH and BTS are really nice and I also wish they'd do more of that kind of thing.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

Lonk

Quote from: Adami on April 24, 2024, 07:15:23 AM
But that was always just piano and vocals and cello or whatever. I think Emtee was talking about taking a full band song and doing a piano/vocals version.

Sadly not many of their songs would really lend itself to that, but I'm sure some would.
aahh, gotcha. Yeah, I wouldn't mind that then.

And agree with TAC.

TheCountOfNYC

Quote from: Adami on April 24, 2024, 07:15:23 AM
But that was always just piano and vocals and cello or whatever. I think Emtee was talking about taking a full band song and doing a piano/vocals version.

Sadly not many of their songs would really lend itself to that, but I'm sure some would.

Haken has done something similar a few times. I personally prefer when bands do something like this for bonus tracks instead of a song that didn't make the album proper.
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 12, 2024, 10:37:36 AMIn Stadler's defense, he's a weird motherfucker

OpenYourEyes311

Quote from: TAC on April 24, 2024, 07:15:51 AM
FFH and BTS are really nice and I also wish they'd do more of that kind of thing.

Agreed! I love these songs and other like them. Chosen and Out of Reach are two of my favorite "ballady" type songs. They need to take time to play the slower songs in concert. Maybe an acoustic-ish tour would be something they could do down the road.

TAC

Quote from: OpenYourEyes311 on April 24, 2024, 09:31:11 AM
Agreed! I love these songs and other like them. Chosen and Out of Reach are two of my favorite "ballady" type songs. They need to take time to play the slower songs in concert. Maybe an acoustic-ish tour would be something they could do down the road.


Hah! I don't hate Chosen. Don't care for it, but I don't hate it. Out Of Reach, IMO, is one of the worst things they've ever done.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

OpenYourEyes311

Quote from: TAC on April 24, 2024, 09:32:19 AM

Hah! I don't hate Chosen. Don't care for it, but I don't hate it. Out Of Reach, IMO, is one of the worst things they've ever done.

It's okay, Tim, you're allowed to be wrong :lol

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Wim Kruithof

Quote from: TAC on April 24, 2024, 09:32:19 AM
Out Of Reach, IMO, is one of the worst things they've ever done.

If Out of Reach is at their poorest spectrum-side of ballads (which I agree with you Tim), Beneath the Surface is being their best by a mile, I would say.

cramx3

Quote from: TAC on April 24, 2024, 09:32:19 AM

Hah! I don't hate Chosen. Don't care for it, but I don't hate it. Out Of Reach, IMO, is one of the worst things they've ever done.

Love Chosen, but I agree that Out of Reach is not for me.

OpenYourEyes311

I don't understand what would make one better than the other.

Is it structure? Lyrics? Instrumentation? Production?

Like, what makes someone like Wait For Sleep more than Far From Heaven? or Out of Reach? or Chosen? or vice versa...

I'm not being facetious. To me, they're all awesome, and they all sound like DT doing a cool ballad.

But at the same time, Beneath the Surface is 100% the best one in two decades at least, so I agree there.

cramx3

It's not complicated, it just sounded better to me likely due to the melody of both songs.  Also, Chosen has an incredible JP solo (Out of Reach's solo is fine, but it's no where near as good).  Chosen's lyrics make it a little odd being part of a larger story, but you can almost interpret it differently if you didn't know any better.

Lonk

Quote from: OpenYourEyes311 on April 24, 2024, 10:41:44 AM
Is it structure? Lyrics? Instrumentation?

Like, what makes someone like Wait For Sleep more than Far From Heaven? or Out of Reach? or Chosen? or vice versa...
Any of those 3 affects whether I like a song or not. Unfortunately for OOR, it lacks in all those areas. Specially the arrangement and vocal melodies.

Trav

Quote from: TAC on April 24, 2024, 07:15:51 AM
FFH and BTS are really nice and I also wish they'd do more of that kind of thing.

This 100%. You can add "Wait for Sleep", "The Silent Man" and "Through Her Eyes" to that. I've always felt that (for the most part) DT does ballads really well. And I think that side of them is underrated, and one of the things that puts them above some their contemporaries.

evilasiojr

I love Far From Heaven! The lyrics, JBL's emotions shine through, Jordan's choices of chords and melodies... beautiful thing!
Would love one of those in the new record.

BlackInk

Not a big fan of the song overall, but I do think that main piano line of OoR is pretty vibey.

TheBarstoolWarrior

Funny, I think Out of Reach is one of their best ballads ever and that JLB did an awesome job with the lyrics and the studio recording.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

Jamesman42

Not having been around for the last 3 albums, I remember Out of Reach standing out from everything else and is probably my favorite song among the last 3 albums (though tbf, most of the last 3 albums all blur together). Just listened again and it's even better than I remembered. When DT subdues themselves sometimes (meaning less "we gotta get the metal in here!!1"), they can write incredible music.
\o\ lol /o/

jammindude

I love the MM era, I even love The Astonishing, but how anyone could like OOR is baffling to me.

I think when I rated all the DT songs, POW and OOR were the bottom two.