DTF Donations Contest: Win prizes and donate to keep the lights on here

[NoFred]

I'll definitely think twice about asking whether people want to keep the site going the next time the account starts to run low.

I sure wouldn't have an issue with an annual or as needed donation drive. I don't think anyone, on either side of this issue would disagree.

Agreed.

Also, thanks to Bosk, the forum is online and that's priority.

[Jamesman42]

Maybe a stupid question for my getting old ass, but can you use cashapp to donate through paypal? I have money on my cashapp not aimed for anywhere, and I would donate.

[wolfking]

Here's a novel idea - how about those of you who DON'T CARE about the contest anymore follow your own advice and stop posting in this thread?
I know certain people here can't help but police everything said that they disagree with. The funny thing is, this thread was already halfway down the page before wolfking bumped it to criticize something he didn't like. With friends like that...!

How about this...

Consider that some people who submitted to the contest do actually care about the results. Also, consider that it is OK to care about the results, and actually when Bosk1 provided his update last year, he recommitted to eventually delivering them. We all understand that Bosk1 is a grownup, he can occasionally be prompted by his users for updates, and those who don't care anymore can just... not care!

As for me - I own almost every single DT item I'd want to own, and could easily purchase anything I don't currently have. "Winning" something would be nice, but I don't need it. Getting green stars would be nice, but I don't need that either. Learning the contest has come to a close, how long the site is funded for in the future, how much we raised, etc., all that's a lot more interesting to me, personally. Sure, yes, I can tell that the "lights" are still "on" because we're still here 15 months since the contest started. But did we pay the utility bill, or did we just run an electric cable out our back window to our neighbor's outlet? LOL

I did? Lol.  Must have missed that.

[wolfking]

I'll definitely think twice about asking whether people want to keep the site going the next time the account starts to run low.

I sure wouldn't have an issue with an annual or as needed donation drive. I don't think anyone, on either side of this issue would disagree.

This.

[wolfking]

New "rule" to ask questions on this thread, make sure you don't own a website and post links to said website in the forum. 

That's not the point.

Here's a novel idea - how about those of you who DON'T CARE about the contest anymore follow your own advice and stop posting in this thread?

That's good advice and I will take you up on it. The rest of you guys can keep on whining.

No, it's not the point.  But I'll take Skeevers advice too and vacate out of here.

Bosk, don't feel like you can't run another drive, I'll always donate man.

[nobloodyname]

A lot of this makes me wonder if the band is to blame here.  Maybe the band never supplied the goods and bosk is taking one for the team. I could be wrong of course, just stating a thought. I dont think I need to state my opinion again and again here though.

Dude, what the heck?  Why would you even think/say that?  That has nothing to do with any of this.  But thanks to rumors like this, I now have members PMing me asking if they can donate stuff to give as prizes.  Seriously, think before you post this kind of stuff.  Now there are rumors out there that are completely unfounded thanks to posts like this.

Thank you for updating us.

But I think that post is unfair. Cram was only trying to have your back.

[nobloodyname]

I hate to use a "both sides" argument but as I've said before, I think one side is a little too caught up in this giveaway in which they weren't even guaranteed anything, just the possibility of getting something, and the other side seems obsess over the idea that those people are somehow doing something wrong and we need to be protected from ourselves by having the thread locked or at least condemning those that are caught up in the lack of prizes. Wow, that was a long sentence.

As someone that donated thinking I have probably a 50/50 chance of getting something, eh...bummer. I literally don't think of it until the thread pops up. But to see the visceral reaction to anybody wanting an explanation is...a bit much.

Edit:just saw bosk respond. Good deal, man. Best of luck with whatever personal stuff you got going on.

I think the vast majority of us couldn't care less whether we get a prize or not. I certainly couldn't. But as I've said, and people's mileage obviously varies on this, if you say prizes are up for grabs, there should be prizes up for grabs. Either present the prizes or say there's been a change of plan. It's that simple. bosk1 has chosen, twice now, to say there will still be prizes so the expectation remains.

The discussion should effectively be over but people continue to agitate it by accusing others of "whining". It's all rather silly and should be beneath the vast majority of us.

[Zantera]

Thanks for the update Bosk! Without knowing the specifics of your personal problems I can relate to falling behind on things when you have other issues taking up time and energy. It's even quite clear in your post when you say "I posted a few weeks back" when actually it was 6 months ago. I don't mean that as a jab or a negative thing, because I think we can all relate to having rough patches in life and it feels like time is going really slow for yourself dealing with problems but in reality time just flies by. I do hope you'll work things out and that life improves.

And like others have said there's 2 sides to any coin and I think the argument between the 2 sides got a bit too heated at times. I don't think it's fair to say people were whining for wanting some update/resolution after 6 months since the last update. But it's also fair for close friends to defend someone they care about and say "let it be". I do think perhaps that some people felt neglected seeing Bosk active in other threads on the forum (so not AWOL completely) but just not posting here and that probably stirred some emotions, but I can also relate to the Bosk perspective that if you don't have the energy then it might feel overwhelming coming in here to basically say "Sorry I don't have an update yet but I'm working on it".

Just on an end note I have thought about donating myself and would be open to do it in the future but as someone else pointed out (I think) the donation link seems broken at the moment. I don't mind donating without a reward but I will say that a small thing like getting the green stars is a cool little thing that (for me at least) makes it even more rewarding, aside from helping the forum stay afloat ofc.

[Madman Shepherd]

I hate to use a "both sides" argument but as I've said before, I think one side is a little too caught up in this giveaway in which they weren't even guaranteed anything, just the possibility of getting something, and the other side seems obsess over the idea that those people are somehow doing something wrong and we need to be protected from ourselves by having the thread locked or at least condemning those that are caught up in the lack of prizes. Wow, that was a long sentence.

As someone that donated thinking I have probably a 50/50 chance of getting something, eh...bummer. I literally don't think of it until the thread pops up. But to see the visceral reaction to anybody wanting an explanation is...a bit much.

Edit:just saw bosk respond. Good deal, man. Best of luck with whatever personal stuff you got going on.

I think the vast majority of us couldn't care less whether we get a prize or not. I certainly couldn't. But as I've said, and people's mileage obviously varies on this, if you say prizes are up for grabs, there should be prizes up for grabs. Either present the prizes or say there's been a change of plan. It's that simple. bosk1 has chosen, twice now, to say there will still be prizes so the expectation remains.

The discussion should effectively be over but people continue to agitate it by accusing others of "whining". It's all rather silly and should be beneath the vast majority of us.

Yeah. It did come across as people whining about people supposedly "whining." Very interesting dynamic.

[cramx3]

A lot of this makes me wonder if the band is to blame here.  Maybe the band never supplied the goods and bosk is taking one for the team. I could be wrong of course, just stating a thought. I dont think I need to state my opinion again and again here though.

Dude, what the heck?  Why would you even think/say that?  That has nothing to do with any of this.  But thanks to rumors like this, I now have members PMing me asking if they can donate stuff to give as prizes.  Seriously, think before you post this kind of stuff.  Now there are rumors out there that are completely unfounded thanks to posts like this.

Thank you for updating us.

But I think that post is unfair. Cram was only trying to have your back.

Literally said he might be taking one for the team (showing I was on bosk's side here), but to be honest

You, Bosk, did not say anything so what do you expect? I've defended you here, but if you are mad because you are getting PMs about this, that's not on me. 

[Chino]

Marc did/said nothing wrong.

[Madman Shepherd]

Marc did/said nothing wrong.

Who the hell is marc?

Wait, wait, wait....Cram? Marc?

So are we just calling people by their real names now? That'll get confusing.

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

i think some tricksters are just saying his name backwards to be silly

[cramx3]

i think some tricksters are just saying his name backwards to be silly

that was what my 12 year old mind thought was cool for a screen name for AIM.  My name is marc and I used cram because its my name backwards.  X's were cool to have in your screen name and 3 has always been my favorite number, and for some reason, I just haven't let the screen name go.

Also to add,

just would like to apologize, never meant to make anyone upset or cause more commotion than already was happening.

I was always cool with my donation simply being a donation to my favorite corner of the web.

[TAC]

i think some tricksters are just saying his name backwards to be silly

that was what my 12 year old mind thought was cool for a screen name for AIM.  My name is marc and I used cram because its my name backwards.

My real name is not Cat!

[cramx3]

i think some tricksters are just saying his name backwards to be silly

that was what my 12 year old mind thought was cool for a screen name for AIM.  My name is marc and I used cram because its my name backwards.

My real name is not Cat!

It should be as a punishment for your dislike towards them

[TAC]

i think some tricksters are just saying his name backwards to be silly

that was what my 12 year old mind thought was cool for a screen name for AIM.  My name is marc and I used cram because its my name backwards.

My real name is not Cat!

It should be as a punishment for your dislike towards them

Since my initials are TC, when I was a kid a common nickname that I had was Top Cat.

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

my birth name is actually Gnirevoh Nruojos

[Skeever]

Tsuj tnaw ot knaht 1ksoB rof eht etadpu. I desnes etiuq a tib fo ssenifnesseved dna noitarutsurf ni sih tsop, sa llew sa a elttil tib fo dedicerpsim ytienoyna taht I esnes smets morf gniehwolemed ni sih lasretnal efil. Yrros ot evah detnirbuted ot gnieb rehtona .ecnicnona I thguohT nehw I wasw ohsoB 1k rof tegdab roev morf active, taht sgniht were srebhepp retteb rof mih seday, tub yltanerppa siht si llits a eros topos dna ew dluohs tsuj yal fo dna tel 1ksoB rof od sih gniht.

[MinistroRaven]

That 👆🏼

Thank you bosk1 for providing the update some of us were asking for. I hope all works better for you and the personal issues you are facing.

[Lonk]

Tsuj tnaw ot knaht 1ksoB rof eht etadpu. I desnes etiuq a tib fo ssenifnesseved dna noitarutsurf ni sih tsop, sa llew sa a elttil tib fo dedicerpsim ytienoyna taht I esnes smets morf gniehwolemed ni sih lasretnal efil. Yrros ot evah detnirbuted ot gnieb rehtona .ecnicnona I thguohT nehw I wasw ohsoB 1k rof tegdab roev morf active, taht sgniht were srebhepp retteb rof mih seday, tub yltanerppa siht si llits a eros topos dna ew dluohs tsuj yal fo dna tel 1ksoB rof od sih gniht.

Don't know what game me more of a headache, trying to read that or noticing the mistakes lol

[Wim Kruithof]

FOR ME, the only part of the thread title that mattered to me was "donate to keep the lights on".  My prize is the friendships that I've made here (and which I hope and pray will last long after this place closes down, if it ever closes down).

Consider me in Tims camp.

I learn so much of my favorite obsession in here and am grateful to many mods & members. And since I don't know any of you except from here, I surely hope we'll keep the lights on forever.

Bosk1 I've send a pm.

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

i hope the lights stay on forever too

forever and ever

[CodyWanKenobi]

Just commenting to say that I'd love to donate a few bucks, but as some have mentioned, the link is broken still. Hopefully that gets fixed soon. ✌🏼

Was able to donate by just searching dreamtheaterforums@yahoo.com in PayPal, as bosk said pages and pages ago.

[Stadler]

Tsuj tnaw ot knaht 1ksoB rof eht etadpu. I desnes etiuq a tib fo ssenifnesseved dna noitarutsurf ni sih tsop, sa llew sa a elttil tib fo dedicerpsim ytienoyna taht I esnes smets morf gniehwolemed ni sih lasretnal efil. Yrros ot evah detnirbuted ot gnieb rehtona .ecnicnona I thguohT nehw I wasw ohsoB 1k rof tegdab roev morf active, taht sgniht were srebhepp retteb rof mih seday, tub yltanerppa siht si llits a eros topos dna ew dluohs tsuj yal fo dna tel 1ksoB rof od sih gniht.

Don't know what game me more of a headache, trying to read that or noticing the mistakes lol

HAHA. +1

[bosk1]

It's even quite clear in your post when you say "I posted a few weeks back" when actually it was 6 months ago. I don't mean that as a jab or a negative thing, because I think we can all relate to having rough patches in life and it feels like time is going really slow for yourself dealing with problems but in reality time just flies by. I do hope you'll work things out and that life improves.

Thanks for that.  And, yeah, it was farther back than I thought.  But it was October 17th (I really thought it was later), so not 6 months ago either.  But, yeah.

And I got the PMs and will respond to those.  Just got back from a trip literally just a few minutes ago, so I'm going to bed.

[emtee]

It's even quite clear in your post when you say "I posted a few weeks back" when actually it was 6 months ago. I don't mean that as a jab or a negative thing, because I think we can all relate to having rough patches in life and it feels like time is going really slow for yourself dealing with problems but in reality time just flies by. I do hope you'll work things out and that life improves.

Thanks for that.  And, yeah, it was farther back than I thought.  But it was October 17th (I really thought it was later), so not 6 months ago either.  But, yeah.

And I got the PMs and will respond to those.  Just got back from a trip literally just a few minutes ago, so I'm going to bed.

I really and truly want to move past this but unless I'm missing something, August 13th is when you re-opened the thread, apologized and gave assurances that this was still going to happen. And that is 6 months.

[TempusVox]

It's even quite clear in your post when you say "I posted a few weeks back" when actually it was 6 months ago. I don't mean that as a jab or a negative thing, because I think we can all relate to having rough patches in life and it feels like time is going really slow for yourself dealing with problems but in reality time just flies by. I do hope you'll work things out and that life improves.

Thanks for that.  And, yeah, it was farther back than I thought.  But it was October 17th (I really thought it was later), so not 6 months ago either.  But, yeah.

And I got the PMs and will respond to those.  Just got back from a trip literally just a few minutes ago, so I'm going to bed.

I really and truly want to move past this but unless I'm missing something, August 13th is when you re-opened the thread, apologized and gave assurances that this was still going to happen. And that is 6 months.

Enough! What's your point? You know you don't always need to point out you're right. I'm locking this thread. If you have questions or comments  PM Bosk as he suggested.

[bosk1]

It's even quite clear in your post when you say "I posted a few weeks back" when actually it was 6 months ago. I don't mean that as a jab or a negative thing, because I think we can all relate to having rough patches in life and it feels like time is going really slow for yourself dealing with problems but in reality time just flies by. I do hope you'll work things out and that life improves.

Thanks for that.  And, yeah, it was farther back than I thought.  But it was October 17th (I really thought it was later), so not 6 months ago either.  But, yeah.

And I got the PMs and will respond to those.  Just got back from a trip literally just a few minutes ago, so I'm going to bed.

I really and truly want to move past this but unless I'm missing something, August 13th is when you re-opened the thread, apologized and gave assurances that this was still going to happen. And that is 6 months.

Yes, but:

Just want to take a moment to let you guys know I am working on this and should have results fairly soon.  Really sorry this took so long.  Again, that was unacceptable, and I'm really sorry.  Update coming...

October 17th.