Top Of The World Tour 2023

[wolfking]

Regardless of the status of PMU, no one is going to see DT for the hits.  I would think the audiences seeing the band on the most part wouldn't care if it wasn't played anymore.  Even something like a TSCO could even replace it as the big money song IMO.

[Azyiu]

Regardless of the status of PMU, no one is going to see DT for the hits.  I would think the audiences seeing the band on the most part wouldn't care if it wasn't played anymore.  Even something like a TSCO could even replace it as the big money song IMO.

Don't be so sure

My buddy and I are going to the London show next month, and he seems to be "disappointed" when I showed him the setlist. He went something like, they don't even play some of the toughest songs or the "best" songs from the past and such. He even went on to say this will be his final DT show ever.    I didn't say much to him, but he is clearly still stuck in the past.

[Trav]

Regardless of the status of PMU, no one is going to see DT for the hits.  I would think the audiences seeing the band on the most part wouldn't care if it wasn't played anymore.  Even something like a TSCO could even replace it as the big money song IMO.

Every show I've been to when they've played PMU, the crowd goes nuts. Just saying.

[WilliamMunny]

Regardless of the status of PMU, no one is going to see DT for the hits.  I would think the audiences seeing the band on the most part wouldn't care if it wasn't played anymore.  Even something like a TSCO could even replace it as the big money song IMO.

I'm with you here.

I can't (and won't) speak for anyone else, but I NEVER need to hear "Pull Me Under" again. Frankly, when I heard the song on the radio back in ninety whatever, it did nothing for me (which is why I didn't really gravitate toward the band until Awake).

I mean, it's a fine tune, but I'm good.

On a side note, I wish to god that JLB would start singing the second verse ("watch the sparrow falling...") an octave lower. That whole section could sound awesome in a lower register, and I'd rather hear him confidently get through what is an admittedly cluttered lyrical section than struggle to spit out all those vowels at the top of his range.

[EPIC Outro]

If DT wants to include PMU in more sets, I'm fine with it. It is not my favorite DT song, but I think we should still be grateful for everything else DT does in their sets.

There are plenty of bands that have been around as long as DT who play setlists filled ONLY with "hits" and nostalgia trips, where you're lucky to hear a token new song or two.

I'm personally more concerned that their sets have been shorter over the last few years. But if that is what it takes to keep DT playing for years to come, I guess I can handle a show that is 'only' 2 hours long.

[Architeuthis]

There are plenty of bands that have been around as long as DT who play setlists filled ONLY with "hits" and nostalgia trips, where you're lucky to hear a token new song or two.

Journey, Foreigner, REO Speedwagon are big offenders of this. 

[Mladen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkzRHsY8w4s&ab_channel=DusanJanotak

BITS from Bratislava

That's me on the left bobbing my head at 0:26. This was my eight Dream Theater show and my first time being front row center. I absolutely loved it. The band was on fire, the set was very well balanced, and even the newer songs that I wasn't crazy about initially went over well during the show. I think I enjoyed the stuff from Six degrees the most. Also, the moment Pull me under started, the crowd went berserk. People still want to hear it.

[JeopardousRaven]

They need both crowd pleaser and globally known hit in the setlist and that means PMU or possibly Another Day. PMU is quite easier than Another Day. So... Maybe The Mirror/Lie duo may make it better but hard on James, especially The Mirror.

What do we think about Learning to Live? It's not exactly a hit single but it's a DT classic alongside the likes of Metropolis Pt. 1. I'd say it's one of the less challenging songs from IaW and he was able to do the F# pretty reliably in 2017 from what I've seen. I can see it being a bit out of reach for him 6 years later though. I could also see Hollow Years with the epic Budokan guitar solo being a nice crowd pleaser, although most casual fans probably ignore FII.

[pg1067]

They need both crowd pleaser and globally known hit in the setlist and that means PMU or possibly Another Day. PMU is quite easier than Another Day. So... Maybe The Mirror/Lie duo may make it better but hard on James, especially The Mirror.

What do we think about Learning to Live? It's not exactly a hit single but it's a DT classic alongside the likes of Metropolis Pt. 1. I'd say it's one of the less challenging songs from IaW and he was able to do the F# pretty reliably in 2017 from what I've seen. I can see it being a bit out of reach for him 6 years later though. I could also see Hollow Years with the epic Budokan guitar solo being a nice crowd pleaser, although most casual fans probably ignore FII.

LTL is probably my #2 DT song.  The F# section is very easy to modify (and, frankly, he's been doing that since the I&W tour).  Otherwise, it's not too tough of a song.

I'd love to see Hollow Years, but I have zero interest in extended guitar solos.

[cramx3]

Regardless of the status of PMU, no one is going to see DT for the hits.  I would think the audiences seeing the band on the most part wouldn't care if it wasn't played anymore.  Even something like a TSCO could even replace it as the big money song IMO.

"hits" is an odd thing to use to describe DT.  I'd say they only have A hit and that is PMU.  But considering the turn outs of the I&W and Scenes tours, people clearly want to see the "classics".  It's no surprise either, since that's basically the general fan base of every band.  DT's fan base is much more open than most to see new and less played songs, but at the end of the day, there's always going to be a group of people, maybe even a large group, that are there for the "hits" or "classics".

[Chino]

When you see Billy Joel, you expect to see Piano Man. When you see Bon Jovi, Living on a Prayer is a given. A Tom Petty show wouldn't have been complete without Free Falling.   

I don't think DT has a track like that, and I think that's perfectly fine. There are a few early songs that might work as general crowd pleasers, but I don't think there's any song in particular that leaves the audience bummed or wanting if not played.

That being said, DT could play Metropolis ever time I see them and I wouldn't complain.

[wolfking]

When you see Billy Joel, you expect to see Piano Man. When you see Bon Jovi, Living on a Prayer is a given. A Tom Petty show wouldn't have been complete without Free Falling.   

I don't think DT has a track like that, and I think that's perfectly fine. There are a few early songs that might work as general crowd pleasers, but I don't think there's any song in particular that leaves the audience bummed or wanting if not played.

That being said, DT could play Metropolis ever time I see them and I wouldn't complain.

This kind of sums up what I was meaning pretty well.

Marc's post above makes good points too however.

[KevShmev]

I think we should all be able to agree that playing 3-4 songs at every show from The Astonishing would keep both the casual fans and diehards more than happy. 

[cramx3]

 

When you see Billy Joel, you expect to see Piano Man. When you see Bon Jovi, Living on a Prayer is a given. A Tom Petty show wouldn't have been complete without Free Falling.   

I don't think DT has a track like that, and I think that's perfectly fine. There are a few early songs that might work as general crowd pleasers, but I don't think there's any song in particular that leaves the audience bummed or wanting if not played.

That being said, DT could play Metropolis ever time I see them and I wouldn't complain.

This kind of sums up what I was meaning pretty well.

Marc's post above makes good points too however.

I've just gone to enough concerts to very easily say there's always a group, and the older the band the larger the group, of people who just want to hear the hits or classics. DT is no different.

[wolfking]

Fair call mate.  I definitely find that a tad surprising.

[cramx3]

Fair call mate.  I definitely find that a tad surprising.

Why?  I know us here often want the deep cuts, but this forum represents just a small fraction of the fan base.  Most of the fan bases of DT and any other band are casual listeners.

[KevShmev]

Fair call mate.  I definitely find that a tad surprising.

Why?  I know us here often want the deep cuts, but this forum represents just a small fraction of the fan base.  Most of the fan bases of DT and any other band are casual listeners.

Agreed. For every one of us diehards who wants to hear Voices and The Glass Prison, there are 10 casual fans who want to hear You Not Me and Raw Dog.

[cramx3]

You are confused, I want to hear Raw Dog 

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

Actually, JLB seems to do a good job at the F# moment everyone is waiting for on LTL.

Nothing from I&W will ever be permanently removed from the setlist and there is no alleged list of songs that are precluded solely because of performer issues. The only songs we should expect never to see live are Best of Times and Never Enough (never again), as they were personal statements of a member who is no longer in the band.

No reason to doubt that JLB has full confidence in his abilities to perform all of DT's catalogue. I fully expect on the next tour to hear the Mirror, LTL, PMU and whatever else the band feels like playing/is ripe to bring out.

[TAC]

You are confused, I want to hear Raw Dog 

I was kind of hoping to get Raw Dog at the JP shows.

[cramx3]

You are confused, I want to hear Raw Dog 

I was kind of hoping to get Raw Dog at the JP shows.

I would have enjoyed it

[RaiseTheKnife]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkzRHsY8w4s&ab_channel=DusanJanotak

BITS from Bratislava

That's me on the left bobbing my head at 0:26. This was my eight Dream Theater show and my first time being front row center. I absolutely loved it. The band was on fire, the set was very well balanced, and even the newer songs that I wasn't crazy about initially went over well during the show. I think I enjoyed the stuff from Six degrees the most. Also, the moment Pull me under started, the crowd went berserk. People still want to hear it.

Nothing better than front row center at a DT show.  Always worth it.  Glad you had a great time.

[wolfking]

Fair call mate.  I definitely find that a tad surprising.

Why?  I know us here often want the deep cuts, but this forum represents just a small fraction of the fan base.  Most of the fan bases of DT and any other band are casual listeners.

Fair enough mate.  I guess Im looking a bit pigeon holed on here.  Also here in Australia it would probably be different.  More the majority would be die hard fans.....I would think.  So yeah, I probably have some tunnel vision here.

[hefdaddy42]

Fair call mate.  I definitely find that a tad surprising.

Why?  I know us here often want the deep cuts, but this forum represents just a small fraction of the fan base.  Most of the fan bases of DT and any other band are casual listeners.

Agreed. For every one of us diehards who wants to hear Voices and The Glass Prison, there are 10 casual fans who want to hear You Not Me and Raw Dog.

No there aren't.

[SeRoX]

Denmark concert is cancelled.

[Azyiu]

Denmark concert is cancelled.

That is so odd a date is cancelled in the middle of a tour. Any idea what happened?

[gzarruk]

Denmark concert is cancelled.

That is so odd a date is cancelled in the middle of a tour. Any idea what happened?

Maybe they weren't selling well enough? Such a bummer for fans expecting it

EDIT: Apparently, the venue canceled the show.

[Setlist Scotty]

Definitely a bummer. I would expect to see that happen in a smaller city, but maybe the venue they were booked in was too large?

On a completely different note, I know that Arion didn't open for DT in Tel Aviv - anybody know who did open?

[ReaPsTA]

Answering the Call and Sleeping Giant. Sick.

[emtee]

Barcelona show was uploaded on YT  by somebody. Absolutely frickin' EPIC show! The most energy I've seen from the band in a long time. Mangini is on fire. Bravo DT! Wow. Amazing setlist too. Killer.

I wish this had been recorded and offered for sale. I would buy in a heartbeat.

[WilliamMunny]

Barcelona show was uploaded on YT  by somebody. Absolutely frickin' EPIC show! The most energy I've seen from the band in a long time. Mangini is on fire. Bravo DT! Wow. Amazing setlist too. Killer.

I wish this had been recorded and offered for sale. I would buy in a heartbeat.

Yeah, there's a couple of different uploads of this, and I couldn't agree more.

The band is clearly hitting a groove and I'm definitely hoping they record something for this tour.

[Schurftkut]

jordan did say in a recent interview that the band is looking into recording a show...

[Azyiu]

jordan did say in a recent interview that the band is looking into recording a show...

Do it in London! I got tickets to that show

[cminor]

jordan did say in a recent interview that the band is looking into recording a show...

Sounds promising. Did he mention whether it will be a Bluray/DVD or just an audio recording for the LNFA?

[Wim Kruithof]

Sounds promising. Did he mention whether it will be a Bluray/DVD or just an audio recording for the LNFA?

Or an official live record, like the beautiful vinyl box from Distant Memories. Which I hope the most.