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JP wants to use 8 string guitar on next DT album

Started by The Silent Cody, August 04, 2017, 02:31:20 AM

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The Silent Cody

Quote from: rumborak on August 08, 2017, 11:42:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dky0ekeuuKA

Saw this earlier looking for 8-string guitar videos :lol
Hahaha, 666 gauge or something ;) Anyway, I totally agree with this
Quote from: cfmoran13 on August 08, 2017, 05:36:32 AM
If the songs are good, I could care less about the number of strings on his guitar.  He shouldn't either.  It seems like such a pandering comment to make.  "I want to use [insert wankery term here] on the next album."  Please just write a kickass album.  Otherwise, I wish his guitar had no strings.  It'd be just as good.
Totally agree, no better words to say that.

Drinktheater

It will be interesting what he can do with an 8 string guitar. Perhaps some more heavy stuff coming.


PetFish

Quote from: cfmoran13 on August 08, 2017, 05:36:32 AM
If the songs are good, I could care less about the number of strings on his guitar.  He shouldn't either.  It seems like such a pandering comment to make.  "I want to use [insert wankery term here] on the next album."  Please just write a kickass album.  Otherwise, I wish his guitar had no strings.  It'd be just as good.

I agree with this and always cringe whenever people are like "JM should use the stick more/again".  Why?  Just for the sake of using it?  If you watch any videos of him playing it he mostly plays it just like a bass anyway so there's no point other than the "gadget factor".

I was always worried about JR and his gadgets cuz it would turn into "I wonder what crazy gadget JR will use on the next album", which is kind of what it ended up being anyway, which takes away from the music itself since people will be looking for the gadget as opposed to listening to the music.

Just leave the gadgets to bands like Muse.

chrisbDTM

i'll take anything that would make DT's music sound different than the norm

Drinktheater

Quote from: chrisbDTM on September 05, 2017, 08:39:21 PM
i'll take anything that would make DT's music sound different than the norm

Who knows maybe he will use a ukelele in the next album for that Kum Ba ya! moment!

Another_Won


gzarruk

I just want the album to be released in mid 2018, and not early 2019. It's such a long wait  :'(

SchecterShredder


TheOutlawXanadu

Quote from: cfmoran13 on August 08, 2017, 05:36:32 AM
If the songs are good, I could care less about the number of strings on his guitar.  He shouldn't either.  It seems like such a pandering comment to make.  "I want to use [insert wankery term here] on the next album."  Please just write a kickass album.  Otherwise, I wish his guitar had no strings.  It'd be just as good.

This!

My feeling is that the goal of any band should be to write great music. I want to hear riffs so good that they help my jog last 30 minutes longer. I want to hear vocals so good that they make me contemplate a career as a karaoke singer. Writing music that is different and unexpected is a useful trick for reaching that goal, but it should not be the goal, if that makes sense. Having specific expectations for any album seems like a recipe for disappointment, at least to me.

Renzo

Quote from: gzarruk on September 07, 2017, 09:37:32 AM
I just want the album to be released in mid 2018, and not early 2019. It's such a long wait  :'(

If during this period off tour each member of DT has got the opportunity to write some material maybe we could expect DT14 to come out in September/October 2018. So in summer they can elaborate all the ideas they came up with.. But yes, it IS gonna be a long wait.  :'(

bosk1

Quote from: TheOutlawXanadu on September 07, 2017, 10:44:29 AM
Quote from: cfmoran13 on August 08, 2017, 05:36:32 AM
If the songs are good, I could care less about the number of strings on his guitar.  He shouldn't either.  It seems like such a pandering comment to make.  "I want to use [insert wankery term here] on the next album."  Please just write a kickass album.  Otherwise, I wish his guitar had no strings.  It'd be just as good.

This!

My feeling is that the goal of any band should be to write great music. I want to hear riffs so good that they help my jog last 30 minutes longer. I want to hear vocals so good that they make me contemplate a career as a karaoke singer. Writing music that is different and unexpected is a useful trick for reaching that goal, but it should not be the goal, if that makes sense. Having specific expectations for any album seems like a recipe for disappointment, at least to me.

Well, I tend to agree.  But I also have to say that it's not like JP put himself out there as promoting the album or trying to generate interest by putting out a press release about his new 8-string or something like that.  He's using one, and Ultimate Guitar apparently asked him about it and put the information out there.  So, again, it's not like he is trying to create a certain expectation or as if the goal is anything but writing great music. 

gzarruk

Quote from: Renzo on September 07, 2017, 10:45:07 AM
Quote from: gzarruk on September 07, 2017, 09:37:32 AM
I just want the album to be released in mid 2018, and not early 2019. It's such a long wait  :'(

If during this period off tour each member of DT has got the opportunity to write some material maybe we could expect DT14 to come out in September/October 2018. So in summer they can elaborate all the ideas they came up with.. But yes, it IS gonna be a long wait.  :'(

But that's not how DT works at all, they like to write in the studio, that's why they take that much time in the studio  :-[

Renzo

Quote from: gzarruk on September 07, 2017, 11:36:11 AM
Quote from: Renzo on September 07, 2017, 10:45:07 AM
Quote from: gzarruk on September 07, 2017, 09:37:32 AM
I just want the album to be released in mid 2018, and not early 2019. It's such a long wait  :'(

If during this period off tour each member of DT has got the opportunity to write some material maybe we could expect DT14 to come out in September/October 2018. So in summer they can elaborate all the ideas they came up with.. But yes, it IS gonna be a long wait.  :'(

But that's not how DT works at all, they like to write in the studio, that's why they take that much time in the studio  :-[

Yeah you're right about that. But I wonder if they already have some ideas. I saw recently a video of Jordan playing a short solo on twitter.. But yeah, until we receive updates it's hard to speculate when it will actually come out. Even LaBrie wasn't sure if DT14 will come out in fall 2018.

gzarruk

Quote from: Renzo on September 07, 2017, 12:13:04 PM
Quote from: gzarruk on September 07, 2017, 11:36:11 AM
Quote from: Renzo on September 07, 2017, 10:45:07 AM
Quote from: gzarruk on September 07, 2017, 09:37:32 AM
I just want the album to be released in mid 2018, and not early 2019. It's such a long wait  :'(

If during this period off tour each member of DT has got the opportunity to write some material maybe we could expect DT14 to come out in September/October 2018. So in summer they can elaborate all the ideas they came up with.. But yes, it IS gonna be a long wait.  :'(

But that's not how DT works at all, they like to write in the studio, that's why they take that much time in the studio  :-[

Yeah you're right about that. But I wonder if they already have some ideas. I saw recently a video of Jordan playing a short solo on twitter.. But yeah, until we receive updates it's hard to speculate when it will actually come out. Even LaBrie wasn't sure if DT14 will come out in fall 2018.

All I know is MM has been writing material for both his solo album and the new DT album, we just don't know how much of that will actually end up being used.

Jordan is currently recording a new prog solo album (he's posted a few snippets of it on facebook), so I don't think he's had time to write new DT music.

Myung might have been writing, but he's always so silent that I doubt even his family knows what he does on his free time  :biggrin:

James doesn't (directly) take part on the writing of the music, so I doubt he's been working on something DT-related. Also, he's confirmed he has a new solo album in the works, so he should be focused on that for the first few months of 2018.

And then there's JP, who I think is safe to assume has been writing something, but he seems to be so fixed on the "most of the material should come from the jams at the studio" mentality, that we just don't know what to expect. I just hope that, meanwhile, he finally gets to work on his 2nd solo album, which seems to be slated for release "sometime after Tool releases their next album"  :lol

Herrick

I finally watched that Captain interview with Petrucci. I think it's very interesting that Petrucci hadn't even played an 8-string at least up until that interview but he had already decided that he woulod play an 8-string on the next album.

Awake didn't sound like any of the 7-string stuff going on in the '90s. Then again there wasn't a hole lot of 7-string music back then. Nevertheless I have hope that the next DT album won't sound too much like any of the modern bands that do the 8-string chug thing.
DISPLAY thy breasts, my Julia!

PetFish

Quote from: Herrick on September 10, 2017, 11:43:40 PM
I finally watched that Captain interview with Petrucci. I think it's very interesting that Petrucci hadn't even played an 8-string at least up until that interview but he had already decided that he woulod play an 8-string on the next album.

I'm sure he's at least messed around with one.  There doesn't need to be any official footage or audio of him playing one for it to be "real".  Haven't all of us slingers at least picked one up in Ye Olde Luthier Shop?  I doubt he'd just say something like that out of the blue.

WheyWaffles

I think anything below about A1 sounds fucking gross distorted.

Please no 8-string unless it's multi-scale with a high A.