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DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!

Started by MirrorMask, November 15, 2016, 02:39:31 AM

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Darkstarshades

I actually don't know why he skips the word Stealing tho, I've seen guys sing it and say it with no issues at all.

As for Take The Time, that thing is incredibly intense to sing, clearly a song that was written with no singer in mind (just a style)

bosk1

Quote from: KevShmev on November 21, 2016, 05:27:57 PMShould be interesting to see which Astonishing songs make it on to the set with them going for a set list of the whole catalogue. 

It isn't the "whole catalog."  They are representing quite a bit of it.  But they aren't representing every single album, and aren't trying to.

KevShmev


Darkstarshades

UltraDT concert.
Every single song performed.
Around 20 hours-long supershow with everysingle imaginable guest!

bosk1

Quote from: KevShmev on November 21, 2016, 06:06:44 PM
You know what I meant, fool. :P
No, actually, I thought maybe I misspoke and you interpreted my prior post as "they are going to play something from each album to represent the entire catalog," so I was just clarifying.

KevShmev

Haha, gotcha.  :tup :tup

This might be better suited for the DVD thread, but if they are going to do a live DVD from this touring cycle, I'd rather see one from next year with all of I&W, some of TA and other miscellaneous songs.

bosk1


Darkstarshades

I was thinking of having a DVD with the full TA performance and the 3 encores, as well as an entire I&W show.

Nightwish is doing something like that, they're launching two concerts in one dvd release.

gzarruk

Quote from: bosk1 on November 21, 2016, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: KevShmev on November 21, 2016, 05:27:57 PMShould be interesting to see which Astonishing songs make it on to the set with them going for a set list of the whole catalogue. 

It isn't the "whole catalog."  They are representing quite a bit of it.  But they aren't representing every single album, and aren't trying to.

I know you can't/don't want to reveal too much from the setlist, but, at least, are you allowed to tell us which albums are NOT going to be represented on their setlist? And, if you can, please tell us  :biggrin:


On a side note, I'm just curious: Did you take notes or a pic from the setlist JP showed you, or you typed all you remembered after you got home? haha

red barchetta

Bosk, did JP tell you if they will do a second leg in Canada? Again, Europe are getting a leg with a great setlist. I remember when they toured for DT12, the European tour had in my opinion a much better setlist than the one they played here. Less songs from DT12 and more old songs.

MirrorMask

Quote from: KevShmev on November 21, 2016, 05:27:57 PM
Should be interesting to see which Astonishing songs make it on to the set with them going for a set list of the whole catalogue.  Our New World is the easy pick to survive, and I think A New Beginning and Three Days are likely choices as well.

I think too these are likely candidates. Our New World most likely will close the first set (or the second if they start right away with I&W), and the other two songs came down with a roar when they played it at my show.

I would assume also The Gift of Music will be there, maybe starting the show, otherwise they'll start with a standard opener like As I Am or maybe Bridges in the Sky.

The Bigger Picture must find a way somehow in the set also, crossed fingers!

noxon

Judging by the reaction from the live shows, A New Beginning is the most obvious choice. Plus, its the narcissistic choice for JP ;)

Architeuthis



The Bigger Picture must find a way somehow in the set also, crossed fingers!
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This!

V_R11

Quote from: noxon on November 22, 2016, 12:25:07 AM
Judging by the reaction from the live shows, A New Beginning is the most obvious choice. Plus, its the narcissistic choice for JP ;)

I don't think the audience would mind hearing that solo either

Prog Snob

Quote from: Architeuthis on November 22, 2016, 12:27:59 AM

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The Bigger Picture must find a way somehow in the set also, crossed fingers!

This!

Agreed! Plus Surrender to Reason.

bosk1

The opening song is not one I would have picked in a million years as an "opener."  But that's all I'll say about that.

ToT-147

Quote from: bosk1 on November 22, 2016, 07:43:25 AM
The opening song is not one I would have picked in a million years as an "opener."  But that's all I'll say about that.

:omg: :justjen


Just one little doubt: are they going to play at least one song off SDoIT or ToT that hasn't been played yet with Mangini?..

Samsara

Pretty excited I&W is going to get the full album performance treatment. I agree with those that believe the band should tune down, even if just a half step, to make it easier for JLB to sing. The man is still a phenomenal singer, but unless you're a guy like Corey Glover or Glenn Hughes, who seem to get more range with age (how the hell does THAT happen), it's not fair to put JLB under that microscope each night. That's a tough record to sing, even in a tenor's prime.

Not sure if this tour is going beyond Europe, but if it comes stateside, it'd be a real treat.

Been a while since I have been on here. *waves at old timers*
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jsbru

Quote from: bosk1 on November 22, 2016, 07:43:25 AM
The opening song is not one I would have picked in a million years as an "opener."  But that's all I'll say about that.

So we at least know that I&W will be set 2?

jsbru

This is amazing news, especially if they come to the US.  I'm probably in for some VIP tickets again.

I really thing Bigger Picture or Surrender to Reason are musts.

I'm predicting ACOS based off Mangini's tweet and because it's one that would drive fans nuts.

I think this is clearly a "throwing red meat to the base" kind of tour to sort of make up for TA (even though I don't think they need to make up for anything, as I loved this album).

With that theme, I'd think The Glass Prison has a chance.  And if they're going with some stuff Mangini's already played, we could see the appearance of some of the songs from the new "encore" they've been playing at recent shows: As I Am, Spirit Carries On.

Probably not a lot from Awake, since half of that album was played recently.  I'd be thrilled if the other "epic" Mangini was talking about was A Mind Beside Itself, though.

And Definitely ONW and ANB, and probably TGOM from Astonishing.

Chino

Quote from: bosk1 on November 22, 2016, 07:43:25 AM
The opening song is not one I would have picked in a million years as an "opener."  But that's all I'll say about that.

I'm calling it now, it's either Hell's Kitchen or Wait For Sleep.

gzarruk

Quote from: red barchetta on November 21, 2016, 08:55:12 PM
Bosk, did JP tell you if they will do a second leg in Canada? Again, Europe are getting a leg with a great setlist. I remember when they toured for DT12, the European tour had in my opinion a much better setlist than the one they played here. Less songs from DT12 and more old songs.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they played the same exact setlist for all the DT12 tour (excepting a few festival dates that were just a short version of the same set + PMU). I don't know what are you talking about  ???



Quote from: Prog Snob on November 22, 2016, 01:03:34 AM
Quote from: Architeuthis on November 22, 2016, 12:27:59 AM

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The Bigger Picture must find a way somehow in the set also, crossed fingers!

This!

Agreed! Plus Surrender to Reason.

This!


Quote from: bosk1 on November 22, 2016, 07:43:25 AM
The opening song is not one I would have picked in a million years as an "opener."  But that's all I'll say about that.

Octavarium maybe?

MirrorMask

Yeah, the emphasis on "opener" made me realize that either it's really a random song, like The Bigger Picture or Trial of Tears, or something you'd expect last, like Octavarium or A Change of Seasons.

Or maybe it's just Our New World, dunno  :D

Architeuthis

If they played The Bigger Picture, I would prefer it to be later in the show when the sound guy has all the quirks ironed out and the band is loosened up. That would be a good song to wrap up the second set, followed by two heavier encores!

gzarruk

Quote from: Architeuthis on November 22, 2016, 12:00:02 PM
If they played The Bigger Picture, I would prefer it to be later in the show when the sound guy has all the quirks ironed out and the band is loosened up. That would be a good song to wrap up the second set, followed by two heavier encores!

It's great to see so much love for TBP and STR here on the forum. Lots of people disliked DT12, but I was listening to it today and still love it! Those two songs are definitely highlights from it  :)

jsbru

Quote from: gzarruk on November 22, 2016, 12:38:20 PM
It's great to see so much love for TBP and STR here on the forum. Lots of people disliked DT12, but I was listening to it today and still love it! Those two songs are definitely highlights from it  :)

LG, TBP and STR are among some of the best songs the band has ever released.

bosk1

Quote from: Chino on November 22, 2016, 11:47:59 AM
Quote from: bosk1 on November 22, 2016, 07:43:25 AM
The opening song is not one I would have picked in a million years as an "opener."  But that's all I'll say about that.

I'm calling it now, it's either Hell's Kitchen or Wait For Sleep.

Interesting.  No, they aren't opening the show with either of those.

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bosk1

Well, now that's just plain silly.

Everybody knows Raw Dog is encore material.

Adami

Quote from: bosk1 on November 22, 2016, 01:30:31 PM
Well, now that's just plain silly.

Everybody knows Raw Dog is encore material.

Exactly, we all THINK that's how it'll be, which is why they'll open with it.
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Samsara

Quote from: bosk1 on November 22, 2016, 01:30:31 PM
Well, now that's just plain silly.

Everybody knows Raw Dog is encore material.

:rollin

Petition for Raw Dog to open the set!
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gzarruk

Am I the only one who actually likes Raw Dog? I mean, it's not their best instrumental, but it surely has really cool parts in it. I would like to see them play it at least once  :biggrin:

CDrice

Quote from: bosk1 on November 22, 2016, 07:43:25 AM
The opening song is not one I would have picked in a million years as an "opener."  But that's all I'll say about that.

Quote from: bosk1 on November 21, 2016, 08:33:20 AM
It will be "epic."  ;)

Full performace of Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence (the song) officially confirmed as the show opener.

ToT-147

Quote from: gzarruk on November 22, 2016, 02:47:02 PM
Am I the only one who actually likes Raw Dog? I mean, it's not their best instrumental, but it surely has really cool parts in it. I would like to see them play it at least once  :biggrin:

No, you're not alone.. There are a lot of us who likes it.. And yeah, they should totally play it live, but if they're going to play one instrumental, I'd rather prefer it's Stream of Consciousness or Hell's Kitchen...

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.