Blu Ray / DVD of The Astonishing tour

[cramx3]

I definitely like Score, yeah. I'm solely saying live orchestras haven't worked for them, so they should stay away from them in the future.

or maybe the third time is the charm for getting it right.  I'm not a believer in giving up like this, assuming that's what they would have wanted to do (play live with an orchestra/choir again)

[Adami]

An orchestra can work, they just have to plan much better for it. It seems they basically just do a normal show and shoehorn in an orchestra when they have.

Doing special prep work, picking a special venue for it, making special arrangements etc. I don't see them doing that, but it would help.

[cramx3]

An orchestra can work, they just have to plan much better for it. It seems they basically just do a normal show and shoehorn in an orchestra when they have.

Doing special prep work, picking a special venue for it, making special arrangements etc. I don't see them doing that, but it would help.

Practice recording it  but yea, it can be done and I see no reason why DT can't make it work in the future if they wanted to.

[Cyclopssss]

Man, my hearing must be totally F'ed because I never noticed anything off with the orchestra. Must have been the excitement. 

[cramx3]

Man, my hearing must be totally F'ed because I never noticed anything off with the orchestra. Must have been the excitement.

I'm going to guess 90% of the people didn't notice.  It seemed a bit low in the mix to me, but I wouldn't of noticed the orchestra was actually not the real live one if not for reading it here.  My ears aren't as good as some.

[rumborak]

What stuck in my mind are the flutes. They were out of tune with each other.

[dparrott]

Even though we want a DVD, I was thinking it's possible they have recorded a show audio only and release that.  Better than nothing!  These bootlegs aren't great.

[SwedishGoose]

Even though we want a DVD, I was thinking it's possible they have recorded a show audio only and release that.  Better than nothing!  These bootlegs aren't great.

Audio with the animations would work for me...

[ytserush]

I'm bummed that there won't be an Astonishing Live CD/DVD but this would be a great opportunity for an official bootleg.

[rumborak]

Stupid question: Why wouldn't you just connect an audio recorder to the board at each show anyway? I takes a $20 device and a patch cable, that's it.

[Architeuthis]

I'd rather have a video than audio only. The studio version of TA would be pretty hard to top, so I don't see the need for a live audio only.

[Adami]

Stupid question: Why wouldn't you just connect an audio recorder to the board at each show anyway? I takes a $20 device and a patch cable, that's it.

While a fair point in general, what would an audio only recording of TA live offer? Musically it would be identical only not as good quality, and vocally it would be worse.

Edit: I guess the Billie Jean solo would be a bit longer, but meh.

[noxon]

Stupid question: Why wouldn't you just connect an audio recorder to the board at each show anyway? I takes a $20 device and a patch cable, that's it.

DT has been multitrack recording stuff live for at least a decade now. Every show is recorded from the soundboard. Previously to that they've always done dat recordings off of the feed. This is why we could make fan club releases.

Problem is they don't have audience mics, so usually these recordings tend to feel a bit lifeless due to there being no room ambience in the recording. No cheers, no singalong etc.

[TAC]

So for $20 more, they could record the audience, no?

[Evai]

It's hard to afford these things when nobody buys CD's

[rumborak]

It's hard to afford these things when nobody buys CD's

What is there to afford? It's a one-time investment of maybe $200 to have a few of those concert recording devices that you just place in strategic places.

[Evai]

James already has enough to deal with, he doesn't need to spend money so more fans can listen to recordings and want him fired.

[Adami]

James already has enough to deal with, he doesn't need to spend money so more fans can listen to recordings and want him fired.

So they shouldn't release any recordings because of how bad they might be?

[Evai]

Unless there's a really good reason, then no. Why should they? I don't see much artistic merit in it..

[Adami]

Unless there's a really good reason, then no. Why should they? I don't see much artistic merit in it..

Artistic merit in releasing live recordings? It's not an artistic thing, it's a fan-relations, business thing.

[ToT-147]

Well but let's be honest here, DT is a very prolific band regarding that aspect.. We recently had, what, TWO dvd/br's within a single year?... and if we count the Happy Holidays cd, that's three official live albums in one year, so I don't think there's any need at all of releasing now another live album; even when I myself would want an Astonishing dvd, I don't think they owe us anything, like to be asking them to do it, when we also know the expensive it is and the time it takes to do it properly..

[Adami]

We got two dvds? Wasn't that just because the first one was delayed for such a long time? Or am I missing one?

[rumborak]

BTFW was released in 2014, LALP in 2013. What am I missing?

[SwedishGoose]

BTFW was released in 2014, LALP in 2013. What am I missing?

That both of them had complete recordings of The Astonishing 

[Sycsa]

I always thought that they made BTFW only because LALP turned out so badly and they wanted to make up for it.

[Chino]

I always thought that they made BTFW only because LALP turned out so badly and they wanted to make up for it.

I forgot all about LALP. I bought it and never opened it.

[Architeuthis]

I always thought that they made BTFW only because LALP turned out so badly and they wanted to make up for it.

I forgot all about LALP. I bought it and never opened it.

Dude! 

[Adami]

Yea, I think I watched it once. No real desire to revisit it.

[Architeuthis]

LALP is awesome. Not one of their best stage productions but the sound and set list is great! Good solo sections wit JR and JP too. They seemed to be relaxed and having alot of fun at that gig.

[jakepriest]

Not one of their best stage productions but the sound and set list is great!

I'd say sound is the weakest point of LALP actually. The drums sound way too thin and the mix is dominated by guitars loaded with chorus. The setlist is definitely really good though, just wish The Mirror was on it instead of say... AFIL.

[Sycsa]

LALP is awesome. Not one of their best stage productions but the sound and set list is great! Good solo sections wit JR and JP too. They seemed to be relaxed and having alot of fun at that gig.

The sound is precisely why I disliked it. It doesn't have a "live sound." It's no secret that they had lots of problems with the sound in post production, which apparently stemmed from the fact that Over The Edge Productions (who also did  the drummer auditions documentary) had never before done such a large project, and they were in way over their heads. It was delayed multiple times and released 15 months after it was recorded. I remember Rena Petrucci posting something along the lines of "it would have had no sound at all if JP hadn't done something miraculous."

The drums are thin, can't really hear the toms. The guitar sound is thin and sterile as well and it owerpowers everything. The keys are grossly undermixed. The only positive aspect of the release is James' relatively good performance.

I remember when the Happy Holidays release came out later that year, many said that it actually sounded better than LALP. It's definitely a more pleasant listen.

[Setlist Scotty]

Don't forget about the audience noise being looped throughout the whole thing too. Very poorly done.

[Architeuthis]

I've never heard happy holidays. What is that one about?

[MirrorMask]

I've never heard happy holidays. What is that one about?

An album the band released for free around Xmas time in 2013, it was a live compilation of all the songs played in the Dramatic Turn of Events tour that didn't end up on Live at Luna Park.

[jakepriest]

I've never heard happy holidays. What is that one about?

An album the band released for free around Xmas time in 2013, it was a live compilation of all the songs played in the Dramatic Turn of Events tour that didn't end up on Live at Luna Park.

A REALLY good album if you like live bootlegs and that kind of stuff. The quality is amazing. I haven't listened to it since it was released, but I remember loving Mangini's drum sound on that release.