New DT Tour dates

[bluehaze]

Well, you can't necessarily get everything, bh! Bummer that it's almost certain that they're not coming to southern Florida, but you still got 3 dates in your state nonetheless. Beggars can't be choosers, at least this time. Once they've played northern/central FL on several tours, then you can start banging the drum for them to hit southern FL! 

Anyhoo, there are some noticeable holes in the schedule, so I'm curious to see what cities they'll choose to fill them with, if at all. DT.net shows the Rochester show on the 15th canceled, which means there's no shows the 13-16, but now that this is less than a month away, I can't imagine them announcing any new shows on such short notice. There's also nothing scheduled for Nov. 2-4 (or 5th, since DT.net doesn't list the Columbus date), so I'm wondering what they might try to schedule there - perhaps a show in Iowa, Rochester MN, or maybe hit Chicago and/or the twin cities again? Then there's the 21-27 - I'd still imagine they'll schedule a show in Salt Lake City, maybe Vegas and/or Albuquerque, and probably a show in TN and/or VA as they make their way back to the east coast. I guess time will tell, altho the clock's ticking!

But Jacksonville or Clearwater over Miami/Ft. Lauderdale??? Really??? Three shows within 2 hours of each other. If I want to drive to Tampa or Orlando, it's five hours each way plus a hotel room or close to $250 for the effort plus the time driving. Up north, one can literally drive between all three shows and be back home to sleep. Beggars can ask for a more reasonable schedule encompassing a larger geographical area of the state rather than three shows in an over-saturated geographical area. I'm still debating driving up to Clearwater and it may just be a spur of the moment decision as I cannot at this time justify the expense for this specific tour of an album I'm not so sanguine about. If it was a true Evening with...show drawing from multiple albums, traveling would be a no-brainer. This album, not so much. Enjoy Jacksonville.

[Setlist Scotty]

Well again, at least you finally got your wish - them doing Evening With shows in Florida. Not the perfect scenario, but far better than anything since 2011, no?

As for enjoying Jacksonville, not sure if you thought I lived in the area or am planning to attend that show, but the answer's no. These days, the closest city to me that *may* get DT is just over 1000 miles away, so if I want to see them, I gotta travel quite some distance to do so - probably at least as much as you, if not more.

[bluehaze]

No, I wasn't assuming anything about where you live. It was an admittedly passive aggressive dig at that great bastion of metal fans: Jacksonville. It will still be five years since they've played South Florida, and after this tour, will run to seven years, Yes? It will now be at least seven years before South Florida gets a chance at an Evening with show. Driving to North Florida from South Miami-Dade County might as well be a state away for me as the time expended, the cost and the drive are all very significant. Their Florida tour is about as tone deaf and ludicrous geographically as a tour can be. South Florida fans on Facebook are not happy.

[Setlist Scotty]

•sigh* I guess it just means you're not gonna be happy unless they're playing in your backyard. So be it. But after the big stink that you raised about them playing in the south and especially Florida (and not specifically southern Florida I might add), I would've imagined you at least be grateful for what exists, instead of grumbling about what likely will not. At least you have shows in Florida, and contrary to what you're saying (unless the Google map I was looking at is skewed), neither Orlando nor Clearwater are in northern Florida - looks like central Florida to me. I might be more willing to see your side of things if the 3 shows booked were in Pensacola, Tallahassee and Jacksonville. Is it down the street from your house or even within a hour's drive? No. But at least it's a lot closer than most other DT tours.

[bluehaze]

Am I glad Dream Theater is finally playing the South with the Evening with...show? Reasonably. I would have preferred more than one album, but it's a start toward future Evening with...shows in the South. Am I happy Florida got three dates. YES. Am I disappointed South Florida isn't one of those dates? YES, Extremely disappointed. Do I have the money and the time for a road trip? I have the time (Thursday and Friday off), but, I don't have the money. Might that change?? We'll see. Lot's of bills at this time. It is what it is. For those getting to see them, by all means, Enjoy!!!

[axeman90210]

Ticket for Newark purchased, 5th row pretty much dead center

[cramx3]

Ticket for Newark purchased, 5th row pretty much dead center

Yea I looked yesterday at the tickets and the place is still mostly unsold.  I personally am still deciding if I even want to go.  If the place is empty its going to be depressing. Also I have a looming business trip so buying my ticket if I do go and can go will likely be the day of the event. 

[axeman90210]

Ticket for Newark purchased, 5th row pretty much dead center

Yea I looked yesterday at the tickets and the place is still mostly unsold.  I personally am still deciding if I even want to go.  If the place is empty its going to be depressing. Also I have a looming business trip so buying my ticket if I do go and can go will likely be the day of the event. 

Alrighty, well let me know if you do end up going and we can grab a beer or something.

[cramx3]

Ticket for Newark purchased, 5th row pretty much dead center

Yea I looked yesterday at the tickets and the place is still mostly unsold.  I personally am still deciding if I even want to go.  If the place is empty its going to be depressing. Also I have a looming business trip so buying my ticket if I do go and can go will likely be the day of the event. 

Alrighty, well let me know if you do end up going and we can grab a beer or something.

Yea, I'll let you know.

[El Barto]

Wait,we're calling this an "evening with" show? I suppose it's factually correct, but it completely waters down the significance of what have been the true evening with shows in the past. It's always been about 3 hour sets covering a wide range of music. In this context it's simply about them having no opening act.

[Victimlas]

Also thought we would get a South Florida show, but seriously can't complain. Orlando here we come! I'll take a few hours trip over the expense of flying out to other States. Bands are increasingly shunning Florida,  so 3 dates in the State is pretty awesome in my book.

[Major Thirteenth]

The official Tour page was updated with that date only for now. Looking forward to seeing what other dates are announced.

Get your butts in gear and buy tickets. If you don't there will be cancellations. You've been warned. Especially you Long Island types at the moment.

[Chino]

Even though this will be my third time seeing this show, I'm so pumped for the 22nd. The venue looks killer. I've never seen DT in such a small place.

[Dream Team]

The official Tour page was updated with that date only for now. Looking forward to seeing what other dates are announced.

Get your butts in gear and buy tickets. If you don't there will be cancellations. You've been warned. Especially you Long Island types at the moment.

Yikes. I hope this doesn't mean the Vermont show will end up being cancelled, it's the first time they've come to my state.

[hefdaddy42]

Second NC show(!) - Ovens Auditorium in Charlotte, November 28th.

[axeman90210]

Going to double dip hef?

[bluehaze]

It turns out that a road trip for me is not in the cards. I'm closing on the sale of my townhouse in Homestead on Nov. 30 and on the house I am purchasing in Cutler Bay on Dec 2 so there is no time (or money) for a road trip north to Orlando or Clearwater. For those going, enjoy...hoping hurricane Matthew doesn't cause a cancellation of the Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman show at the Hard Rock Casino Hollywood, Fl.  on Oct 6 this Thursday.

[hefdaddy42]

Going to double dip hef?

Nope.  I will stay with the Durham show.

If it was a real, full, evening with tour, I probably would double dip.

BTW, my oldest daughter hasn't heard one second of The Astonishing.  She wants to go in cold.  That's an interesting approach.

[Chino]

Going to double dip hef?

Nope.  I will stay with the Durham show.

If it was a real, full, evening with tour, I probably would double dip.

BTW, my oldest daughter hasn't heard one second of The Astonishing.  She wants to go in cold.  That's an interesting approach.

That's what I did with Avatar and look how that worked out!

[hefdaddy42]

Oh fuck no

[Chino]

I have feelings, Hef, and you just hurt them.

[hefdaddy42]

I have feelings, Hef, and you just hurt them.

[As I Am]

Just heard that there were less than 300 (yes, that's HUNDRED) people at the Sands Bethlehem show last night! This band needs a hiatus for sure....hmmm, seem to remember someone saying that about 6 years ago!

[Dream Team]

Just heard that there were less than 300 (yes, that's HUNDRED) people at the Sands Bethlehem show last night! This band needs a hiatus for sure....hmmm, seem to remember someone saying that about 6 years ago!

It's not because of over-exposure, it's that hardly anyone wants to attend TA again.

[cramx3]

Just heard that there were less than 300 (yes, that's HUNDRED) people at the Sands Bethlehem show last night! This band needs a hiatus for sure....hmmm, seem to remember someone saying that about 6 years ago!

It's not because of over-exposure, it's that hardly anyone wants to attend TA again.

Agreed.  If anything they need to make another album not take a break.

[Chino]

They really should just tack two or three songs onto the end of the setlist. Shit, just play A Change of Seasons as an encore.

[Chino]

Just heard that there were less than 300 (yes, that's HUNDRED) people at the Sands Bethlehem show last night! This band needs a hiatus for sure....hmmm, seem to remember someone saying that about 6 years ago!

Not saying you're wrong, but I asked in a thread created by someone on Reddit who attended the show;

"How filled was the venue? I've read that there were less than 300 people there. Is that true?"

and the reply I got was;

"Not at all. I believe it was 3/4ths full. That may be a liberal guestimation, but it was a very good crowd size"

[Nick]

I was there, and there was no way the place was anywhere near 3/4ths full. If it was half full I'd be surprised, frankly. Probably over 300 though, I'd say maybe 600-800.

[As I Am]

Nick, that's better to hear, I mean 600-800 is NOT good, but a helluva lot better than less than 300.

The Astonishing thing is the band took it out again in North America.

[RaiseTheKnife]

Just poked around some of the ticket sales for the shows in the South, and, well, with the exception of Orlando, it's not looking too good.  Thought NC and others would have a better reaction.

DT's facebook account is pushing this leg super hard.

[Shadow2222]

Just poked around some of the ticket sales for the shows in the South, and, well, with the exception of Orlando, it's not looking too good.  Thought NC and others would have a better reaction.

DT's facebook account is pushing this leg super hard.

It seems like most shows aren't selling that well sadly. I think they will do some significant ticket discounting as the dates near, unless they plan on cancelling a few (which won't look good).

I don't remember DT shows selling this poorly since certain dates of Progressive Nation 2008.

[RaiseTheKnife]

Most of the tickets in Temecula, CA have sold, which is cool. 

The fans are not coming in droves to support this album in the second cycle cities, which is too bad, because in the next round DT will be touring with a more diverse setlist and those Southern cities will get skipped again because of this current turn out. 

If fans want the better setlists to come to their city in the future, then they gotta show support for the albums cycles that don't excite them as much.  It's worth the investment.

[El Barto]

Most of the tickets in Temecula, CA have sold, which is cool. 

The fans are not coming in droves to support this album in the second cycle cities, which is too bad, because in the next round DT will be touring with a more diverse setlist and those Southern cities will get skipped again because of this current turn out. 

If fans want the better setlists to come to their city in the future, then they gotta show support for the albums cycles that don't excite them as much.  It's worth the investment.

That might be the reality, but it's not a fair way to look at it. I see this as a mistake on DT's part, and the end result will be exactly what you say and we'll get the blame. The promoters will be reticent to book them down here again, and based on what I've seen there's no way JP looks at this as a mistake on their part. In 2 years he's going to tell somebody who asks "well last time we toured down there nobody came out." If Metallica toured Lulu and sales were understandably poor, I don't think they'd hold that against the fans when it came time to tour for Bound to Explode or whatever their latest album is.

[Chino]

Most of the tickets in Temecula, CA have sold, which is cool. 

The fans are not coming in droves to support this album in the second cycle cities, which is too bad, because in the next round DT will be touring with a more diverse setlist and those Southern cities will get skipped again because of this current turn out. 

If fans want the better setlists to come to their city in the future, then they gotta show support for the albums cycles that don't excite them as much.  It's worth the investment.

That might be the reality, but it's not a fair way to look at it. I see this as a mistake on DT's part, and the end result will be exactly what you say and we'll get the blame. The promoters will be reticent to book them down here again, and based on what I've seen there's no way JP looks at this as a mistake on their part. In 2 years he's going to tell somebody who asks "well last time we toured down there nobody came out." If Metallica toured Lulu and sales were understandably poor, I don't think they'd hold that against the fans when it came time to tour for Bound to Explode or whatever their latest album is.

Idk.. All DT has to do is read the comment section on literally any post they make in regards to this tour. The same complaints  keep coming up;

1) A lot of fans genuinely hate this album
2) A lot of fans liked it enough to see the show the first time they came around, but not the second
3) People want to see a rock concert and have fun. Not sit with their arms folded.
4) People really want to take pictures/video and can't
5) They selected venues that don't allow drinks in the seats.
6) Security escorts you out if they see your phone or if you're being too animated. This isn't a broadway show.
7) Many of the people that don't want to see it a second time, or haven't gone period, would likely go if there was 30-45 minutes of non-astonishing stuff at the end of the show.

Dream Theater can't rectify all of those things, but they could make good on a lot of them.

[cramx3]

That list, while true (although I recall bringing a drink to my seat at RCMH), is depressing. 

Telling security to chill out would be #1 followed by adding a real encore for me.

Comparatively, Opeth just played at RCMH and there's plenty of youtube videos plus people standing.