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Title: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Darkstarshades on July 29, 2016, 07:24:27 AM
It looks like DT is dropping a second tour leg! Will you go to any of them?
Title: Re: New DT Tour added
Post by: cramx3 on July 29, 2016, 07:25:09 AM
Just saw this as well, looks like DT is starting to announce fall US tour dates!  :metal :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 29, 2016, 07:28:18 AM
Whoa, that's awesome!!
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Post by: Air Weaver on July 29, 2016, 08:01:01 AM
I just saw this on facebook and lost my mind. This is close to me. And a Friday, meaning I can take my kids. I didn't take them to the Astonishing in Baltimore since it was a school night.

Can I assume this is not an extension of the Astonishing tour? I like it well enough, but I saw it - and my 9 year old son can sing the entirety of the last two albums before it, as well as many classics. I have been so psyched to take him to a tour where we could possibly hear Illlumination Theory, Along for the Ride, Bridges in the Sky... anything off those albums.

I assume this is likely because they didn't announce an astonishing extension as such yet, and there's not time for a new album to be promoting on this tour, so my true hope here is a tour of the whole catalog, featuring MM era DT. Am I on the right track?
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: Air Weaver on July 29, 2016, 08:08:16 AM
The event just got deleted. Is someone messing with us?
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: cramx3 on July 29, 2016, 08:19:10 AM
The event just got deleted. Is someone messing with us?

Probably an accidental release of info, since it came from DT's facebook I doubt it was bad info, just bad timing.

That concert start time was listed at 8pm which would suggest an evening with format.  I'm guessing more of just TA honestly.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on July 29, 2016, 08:24:32 AM
Where and when was this date?
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: cramx3 on July 29, 2016, 08:34:53 AM
Where and when was this date?

October 7th in Wilkes-Barre PA
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 29, 2016, 08:42:47 AM
I'll be curious to see how this plays out, whether they will switch it up and play a mix of songs, or present the same show.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on July 29, 2016, 08:59:22 AM
Where and when was this date?

October 7th in Wilkes-Barre PA

Nice. I hope they make it back to Boston. Also hope they switch it up, but I'm pretty sure they'll be playing The Astonishing. I'll be going either way, though. But if they don't come back to Boston it won't be too big a deal unless the setlist is changed.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on July 29, 2016, 09:07:26 AM
Video was just posted on the Facebook page with a link pointing to their website tour section. Nothing up on the website yet, but it must be coming soon.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: CharlesPL on July 29, 2016, 11:12:05 AM
https://timesleader.com/features/569848/dream-theater-brings-theatrical-metal-to-wilkes-barres-f-m-kirby-center
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: mike099 on July 29, 2016, 11:43:30 AM
If the band comes to Atlanta and the set list is mixed and not just TA, I will be there.  I would think that MM and JM would be kind of bored with playing just TA.

Would be interesting to do a poll for folks that have not yet seen the TA tour to vote.  TA only or a mixed set.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: cramx3 on July 29, 2016, 11:47:51 AM
Interesting that it says in support of TA and not Presents TA.  Wonder if that has any meaning or not.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: Shadow2222 on July 29, 2016, 12:15:22 PM
The official Tour page was updated with that date only for now. Looking forward to seeing what other dates are announced.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: Chino on July 30, 2016, 03:50:51 AM
I hope it's The Astonighing in its entirety again, especially if they're filming it.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: Nick on July 30, 2016, 07:04:24 AM
I got a bandisintown alert for that. I'll be moving would love to visit that theater again, but I'll be moving to a new house either Oct. 1 or Oct. 8, and so either way an Oct. 7 date would be tough. If they are playing TA in full again it'll be easy for me to skip, but if they are doing a normal set I'll want to go more.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: cramx3 on July 30, 2016, 08:19:19 AM
Just realized, given that date/location it's very possible an Oct 8th date in NYC is possible.... which is my sisters wedding  :angry: I'm hoping DT does not play that saturday!
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: TAC on July 30, 2016, 09:06:08 AM
Just realized, given that date/location it's very possible an Oct 8th date in NYC is possible.... which is my sisters wedding  :angry: I'm hoping DT does not play that saturday!

Good. Hoping Boston gets the Saturday date then! Missed the first leg. >:(
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: cramx3 on July 30, 2016, 10:13:31 AM
Please Boston!  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on August 01, 2016, 07:32:09 AM
The local radio station is indicating DT is bringing TA to the Hershey Theatre on October 8th.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: As I Am on August 01, 2016, 08:26:47 AM
FYI, Oct 5th at Sands Bethlehem Event Center
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: cramx3 on August 01, 2016, 08:32:29 AM
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More dates announced! Lucky PA!!
This is what we have so far:
Oct 5 Sands Bethlehem Event Center, Bethlehem, PA
Oct 7 Kirby Center for the Performing Arts, Wilkes-Barre, PA
Oct 8 Hershey Theatre, Hershey, PA

From FB. Wow that is a lot for the state of PA!
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: As I Am on August 01, 2016, 08:33:25 AM
TM has the following:
Oct 5 Bethlehem Pa
Oct 7 Wilkes Barre, Pa
Oct 8 Hershey, Pa
Oct 19 Newark NJ
Oct 31 Indianapolis, In
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on August 01, 2016, 08:35:11 AM
The Hershey date is like 25 minutes away.  I briefly considered ACTUALLY going, but it's my wife's birthday.  No way I'm subjecting her to this on her birthday.  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: cramx3 on August 01, 2016, 08:36:53 AM
TM has the following:
Oct 19 Newark NJ

Presale is this Wednesday, I think I will likely be there.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: cfmoran13 on August 01, 2016, 08:41:38 AM
Wow!  NJ PAC, the week before my birthday.  Pretty cool!  Gonna have to check this out.  AmEx presale is Wednesday.  Another presale is Thursday.  General sale is Friday.  Wonder how to get in on Thursday's presale.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: CharlesPL on August 01, 2016, 08:49:39 AM
1st Nov
   
Riverside Theater

Milwaukee, WI
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on August 01, 2016, 09:11:10 AM
looks like, so far, these are all places they have yet to play on this tour. I like that; there could be hope for the south!
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 01, 2016, 09:19:08 AM
Might consider making the drive to the Hershey show.... Probably only 3 or 4 hours from me.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: CharlesPL on August 01, 2016, 10:21:16 AM
Oct22
   
The Capitol Theatre

Port Chester, NY
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: Another_Won on August 01, 2016, 10:46:36 AM
Wow, Indy!  They've only played here once and that was back in '93.  I may have to go again.  Now I am hoping for a different setlist.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: Shadow2222 on August 01, 2016, 10:51:59 AM
Hoping that they fit Columbus, Ohio in there somewhere. I'm sick of driving to Cleveland or Cincy  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: As I Am on August 01, 2016, 12:18:16 PM
I am hoping for a different setlist.

Better hope for something else.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: Another_Won on August 01, 2016, 12:21:29 PM
I am hoping for a different setlist.

Better hope for something else.
yeah, I know . . .
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: TJPNET on August 01, 2016, 01:27:47 PM
Press release says they'll be playing The Astonishing.

Quote
AUGUST 1, 2016 - Roadrunner Records’ group Dream Theater has announced details of a fall North American headline tour. The trek, which gets underway October 5th at Bethlehem, PA’s Sands Bethlehem Event Center, will see the pioneering group performing their widely acclaimed double concept album The Astonishing in immersive and interactive settings for a unique and unparalleled live experience. Pre-sale tickets and VIP packages for select North American dates go on sale this Wednesday, August 3rd at 10am local right HERE with general on sale starting Friday, August 5th. Additional dates will be announced in the coming weeks. For up-to-the-minute news and ticket information please visit bit.ly/dt2016US.

Here's hoping Salt Lake City happens this time.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on August 01, 2016, 01:48:21 PM
 "immersive and interactive settings for a unique and unparalleled live experience"

Bit of an oversell.  I mean, exactly how was it immersive and interactive?
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: DreamerTV on August 01, 2016, 03:50:18 PM
"immersive and interactive settings for a unique and unparalleled live experience"

Bit of an oversell.  I mean, exactly how was it immersive and interactive?


You know, you can accompany the band by clapping your hands... :P
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on August 01, 2016, 07:55:58 PM
"immersive and interactive settings for a unique and unparalleled live experience"

Bit of an oversell.  I mean, exactly how was it immersive and interactive?


You know, you can accompany the band by clapping your hands... :P

Haha.  You know, I honestly felt like the only chump that clapped on the correct cue during "Hymn of a Thousand Voices" 
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: SebastianPratesi on August 01, 2016, 08:13:27 PM
"immersive and interactive settings for a unique and unparalleled live experience"

Bit of an oversell.  I mean, exactly how was it immersive and interactive?


You know, you can accompany the band by clapping your hands... :P
Ha!

Seriously, though - maybe this time the stage production will be expanded.
The 'interactive' bit could refer to the NOMAC taking pictures of fans and projecting them on the screen?
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on August 01, 2016, 08:26:40 PM
I'm sure that is exactly what it is referring to.  Like I said, a bit of an oversell in my opinion.  It's a photo kiosk that most of the audience overlooked, but the press release makes the tour sound like a virtual reality theme park experience! 
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: Laughingplace56 on August 01, 2016, 08:37:52 PM
Seems like we have 6-7 dates in the NE of America, with a gap between the PA and NY shows, then another between NY and NJ, not leaving much room to travel down south. That's concerning to me. If they skip the southern eastern section of the country AGAIN while playing 4 more shows in a state they already visited this year, I'm not going to be too happy.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: Darkstarshades on August 02, 2016, 12:31:54 AM
The Astonishing
Encore: Scenes From a Memory.

3 hour and a half show!
  :hat
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: Chino on August 02, 2016, 06:16:03 AM
Nothing against Pennsylvania, but why are they playing 3 shows there? I really wish the Newark show wasn't on a Wednesday. I would have loved to have gone down there for the night=.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: kaos2900 on August 02, 2016, 06:31:39 AM
My only hope of seeing them this cycle is if they play KC which they normally do. We'll see.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: CharlesPL on August 02, 2016, 09:00:38 AM
Oct28
   
Palace Theatre

Louisville, KY

Wow

Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: cramx3 on August 02, 2016, 09:36:08 AM
I really wish the Newark show wasn't on a Wednesday. I would have loved to have gone down there for the night=.

Said no one ever  :lol

Newark is a shit hole.  I really wish they were playing somewhere else in NJ/NYC, but then again I've never gone to that venue.  Also, I think I'm more interested in a potential DTF meet up again than the actual concert.  Another show where you can't use your phone, stand, move around, and act like you are at a concert is very uninteresting although I do believe I will go to support the band and enjoy the music.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: Chino on August 02, 2016, 09:37:59 AM
I really wish the Newark show wasn't on a Wednesday. I would have loved to have gone down there for the night=.

Said no one ever  :lol

Newark is a shit hole.  I really wish they were playing somewhere else in NJ/NYC, but then again I've never gone to that venue.  Also, I think I'm more interested in a potential DTF meet up again than the actual concert.  Another show where you can't use your phone, stand, move around, and act like you are at a concert is very uninteresting although I do believe I will go to support the band and enjoy the music.

I went down there a few months ago for the night to see NDT speak. I had a great time.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 02, 2016, 04:50:59 PM
I know it's just the initial dates with more to come, but they certainly are making the South wait and wait and wait. They should have started in the South.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on August 02, 2016, 04:52:01 PM
I know it's just the initial dates with more to come, but they certainly are making the South wait and wait and wait. They should have started in the South.

Wow, dude! :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: bluehaze on August 02, 2016, 04:52:17 PM
Seems like we have 6-7 dates in the NE of America, with a gap between the PA and NY shows, then another between NY and NJ, not leaving much room to travel down south. That's concerning to me. If they skip the southern eastern section of the country AGAIN while playing 4 more shows in a state they already visited this year, I'm not going to be too happy.
I agree 100%
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 02, 2016, 04:56:13 PM
I know it's just the initial dates with more to come, but they certainly are making the South wait and wait and wait. They should have started in the South.

Wow, dude! :lol

What's so funny? They've already played the Northeast. We've been waiting five years for them to come back to our region. DT fans from the Northeast are spoiled. Fortunately, for us prog. fans in Miami we had an awesome 2 1/2 hour 2 set performance at the Olympia Theater (Gusman) by Carl Palmer and his ELP Experience... best show I've seen in a decade...and it was a sell out. It was Bittersweet because Keith Emerson was supposed to be at that show according to Mr. Palmer. Prog rock DOES sell down here. Nobody can tell me otherwise.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on August 02, 2016, 06:40:11 PM
It sucks for a lot of the country where DT never goes anymore, but you have to go where the business and ticket sales are. 

I am not sure I'd go see them again anyway after the last show I saw of theirs, which was easily the loudest show I've ever been to.  It wasn't even enjoyable because of the volume.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mosh on August 02, 2016, 06:52:06 PM
Ever try sitting in the back? I always sit closer to the back and never had a problem with volume.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on August 02, 2016, 06:53:37 PM
Yes.  Four of us were at the show, and two of us moved from our seats down close up to the balcony, yet it barely made a difference.  My ears took a beating from the concert and is a large reason why I mostly avoid concerts now (don't want to be deaf before I hit 50).
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 02, 2016, 07:00:36 PM
Yes.  Four of us were at the show, and two of us moved from our seats down close up to the balcony, yet it barely made a difference.  My ears took a beating from the concert and is a large reason why I mostly avoid concerts now (don't want to be deaf before I hit 50).
Did you not go to concerts back when you were younger? Back when they were really loud? DT is certainly louder than many bands nowadays, but nothing compared to what we were seeing back in the 80's. I'm not trying to rag on you, definitely look after yourself, but I am curious.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: Prog Snob on August 02, 2016, 07:01:17 PM
I really wish the Newark show wasn't on a Wednesday. I would have loved to have gone down there for the night=.

Said no one ever  :lol

Newark is a shit hole.  I really wish they were playing somewhere else in NJ/NYC, but then again I've never gone to that venue.  Also, I think I'm more interested in a potential DTF meet up again than the actual concert.  Another show where you can't use your phone, stand, move around, and act like you are at a concert is very uninteresting although I do believe I will go to support the band and enjoy the music.

Yeah, Newark isn't the kind of place you go walking around at night looking for a hot spot.   :lol   
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on August 02, 2016, 07:06:24 PM
Did you not go to concerts back when you were younger? Back when they were really loud? DT is certainly louder than many bands nowadays, but nothing compared to what we were seeing back in the 80's. I'm not trying to rag on you, definitely look after yourself, but I am curious.

What?


 ;D
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on August 02, 2016, 07:09:21 PM
Yes.  Four of us were at the show, and two of us moved from our seats down close up to the balcony, yet it barely made a difference.  My ears took a beating from the concert and is a large reason why I mostly avoid concerts now (don't want to be deaf before I hit 50).
Did you not go to concerts back when you were younger? Back when they were really loud? DT is certainly louder than many bands nowadays, but nothing compared to what we were seeing back in the 80's. I'm not trying to rag on you, definitely look after yourself, but I am curious.

My first concert was in 1990 (at the age of 17).

Definitely have had some fair share of loud concerts, but that last DT one was the worst.  It was probably not helped by my ears already not quite what they used to be (although I have been much kinder to them lately, so they are mostly fine).  The other loudest ones would be Metallica in the later 90s (so loud, I had no idea what the first song was, and it was OUTSIDE :eek :eek :eek) and Judas Priest like 6-7 years ago.  Yeah, I had plenty of loud concerts way back when, but my ears were younger and fresher then, if that makes sense.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mosh on August 02, 2016, 07:11:29 PM
I wonder if it's a venue thing. I don't think my ears are bad but I've never had a problem with volume at DT shows. In fact they were both among the quieter concerts I've been to.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on August 02, 2016, 07:13:41 PM
I thought the show at the Boston Opera House was ridiculously loud.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on August 02, 2016, 07:40:23 PM
I thought the show at the Boston Opera House was ridiculously loud.

It was inconveniently loud.  Might have been the acoustics of that space.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 02, 2016, 07:44:39 PM
It sucks for a lot of the country where DT never goes anymore, but you have to go where the business and ticket sales are. 

I am not sure I'd go see them again anyway after the last show I saw of theirs, which was easily the loudest show I've ever been to.  It wasn't even enjoyable because of the volume.
Guns and Roses specifically chose where to play. For them, it wasn't about generating the most money. It was about playing for their fans wherever they may be. Sell out concerts are a rare thing these day and they shouldn't expect it. If it is all about the money for them then they are touring for all of the wrong reasons. Florida CAN support them and has ALWAYS provided great crowds.  About time they showed us the love they show the Northeast and Europe...oh, and I want It LOUD!!! I went them to go to eleven.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: badger on August 02, 2016, 07:47:35 PM
Quote
I am not sure I'd go see them again anyway after the last show I saw of theirs, which was easily the loudest show I've ever been to.  It wasn't even enjoyable because of the volume.

KC correct?

Kinda ruined it for me also.

4 hour drive for me...............we will see.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on August 02, 2016, 08:16:27 PM
KC, yes.

Still bizarre cause I saw them four days earlier in Chicago, and the volume there was perfect.  It really does come to the venue sometimes...and that venue in KC sucked ass.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Setlist Scotty on August 02, 2016, 09:23:56 PM
Yes.  Four of us were at the show, and two of us moved from our seats down close up to the balcony, yet it barely made a difference.  My ears took a beating from the concert and is a large reason why I mostly avoid concerts now (don't want to be deaf before I hit 50).
Ummmm....there's this thing called ear plugs. I've used them for almost every single concert I've been to (beginning with my 5th concert - seeing Metallica early on the black album tour, and I've been to well over 100 since then) and my hearing is great and I don't walk out of the venue in pain or worrying about my hearing. They may take away a little something - especially the crisp highs if you get the cheap types like I do - but they're a much better choice than the alternative, IMO. Oh, and I'm a year older than you.   :P
 
 
Guns and Roses specifically chose where to play. For them, it wasn't about generating the most money. It was about playing for their fans wherever they may be. Sell out concerts are a rare thing these day and they shouldn't expect it. If it is all about the money for them then they are touring for all of the wrong reasons. Florida CAN support them and has ALWAYS provided great crowds.  About time they showed us the love they show the Northeast and Europe...oh, and I want It LOUD!!! I went them to go to eleven.
bluehaze, I will defend your right to be upset with the band, but your post above ain't working. To begin with, you're talking not just about GnR, but GnR reunited with Slash and Duff. They command so much freakin' money, they could play all their shows in Timbuktu and still walk away with millions upon millions in their pockets.

Second, it is about the money - like it or not, the band is in the business to make money. They are not a charity, so don't expect them to "take one for the team" just to make sure audiences in some cities or parts of the world get to see their favorite band like everyone else. That said, my gut feeling is that you'll get your shows this time around - if Indianapolis and Louisville are getting shows (the former's last show was in 1993, the latter never having gotten *any* shows), I'd expect there will be some shows in the SE this time around.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 02, 2016, 10:41:04 PM
Yes.  Four of us were at the show, and two of us moved from our seats down close up to the balcony, yet it barely made a difference.  My ears took a beating from the concert and is a large reason why I mostly avoid concerts now (don't want to be deaf before I hit 50).
Ummmm....there's this thing called ear plugs. I've used them for almost every single concert I've been to (beginning with my 5th concert - seeing Metallica early on the black album tour, and I've been to well over 100 since then) and my hearing is great and I don't walk out of the venue in pain or worrying about my hearing. They may take away a little something - especially the crisp highs if you get the cheap types like I do - but they're a much better choice than the alternative, IMO. Oh, and I'm a year older than you.   :P
 
 
Guns and Roses specifically chose where to play. For them, it wasn't about generating the most money. It was about playing for their fans wherever they may be. Sell out concerts are a rare thing these day and they shouldn't expect it. If it is all about the money for them then they are touring for all of the wrong reasons. Florida CAN support them and has ALWAYS provided great crowds.  About time they showed us the love they show the Northeast and Europe...oh, and I want It LOUD!!! I went them to go to eleven.
bluehaze, I will defend your right to be upset with the band, but your post above ain't working. To begin with, you're talking not just about GnR, but GnR reunited with Slash and Duff. They command so much freakin' money, they could play all their shows in Timbuktu and still walk away with millions upon millions in their pockets.

Second, it is about the money - like it or not, the band is in the business to make money. They are not a charity, so don't expect them to "take one for the team" just to make sure audiences in some cities or parts of the world get to see their favorite band like everyone else. That said, my gut feeling is that you'll get your shows this time around - if Indianapolis and Louisville are getting shows (the former's last show was in 1993, the latter never having gotten *any* shows), I'd expect there will be some shows in the SE this time around.
Well, I hope you are right. I believe so as well, but why the Northeast again so early? They've had their tour. Florida has ALWAYS been good to Dream Theater and so has Atlanta. That's four shows right there. I am not asking them to play friggin Alaska or Idaho. I am expecting them to play international cities in the South as most bands do. Miami and Orlando and Tampa and even Jacksonville are International cities. Hell, if Opeth can come down here just about every year, Dream Theater can do it on their tours that they play every two to three years. With regards to Guns and Roses, it was reported that most of their shows were not sellouts specifically because THEY chose to play cities THEY wanted to play and NOT cities their label wanted them to play. I don't think they are crying in their beer over it. I keep hearing about they have to play only where they can sell out  to make money. Did they sell out Portland Oregon? How about Seattle? How about some of the cities in the Northeast on the last leg? No they didn't. While they might not sell out Pompano Beach, they still get at least 3/4 full and that is more than enough reason to play. Stop trying to make the South some back water BS location that they make some great sacrifice to play. This is their JOB. Mike Portnoy brought his Winery Dogs to The Culture Room (a 500 person club for $30 per ticket) on both of their tours. Is he starving? He made it happen.  If Carl Palmer can play to a packed house at the Olympia Theater in Miami and then play two nights later in Boca Raton and meet people after the show for FREE, certainly Roadrunner and their tour promoter can make it happen. As I said earlier, I expect them to play the South on this leg, but they should have started here given how long it's been since they've been here. I'm beginning to think Roadrunner records is the worst thing to happen to Dream Theater. They used to have free meet and greets and now they charge god awful prices for the privilege of saying hi, and oh, by the way, here's your stupid laminate. They have gotten out of hand with all of the paraphernalia like coolie cups. What's next JP condoms? How about the Dream Theater casket a la KISS. Pure bloat. I miss their club days.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 03, 2016, 07:16:25 AM
bluehaze it sounds like you have a lot of issues with, basically, DT's success. Also - you should contact the promoters of some of the venues you are taking about in FL and inquire about them bringing in DT, that would be a much better place to start since venues and promoters are essential to a band like DT (read-not the biggest rock tour in the world right now like GnR) playing certain cities or areas.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Darkstarshades on August 03, 2016, 07:35:59 AM
Well, if I has a fucking venue owner or promoter and fucking GnR reunion came and asked me to let them play at my venue I'd be all like "OF COURSE".

I don't see how the hell is that even a valid comparison.

I know it sucks guys, but blame the people at your cities. One of my favorite bands hasn't come to play anwhere near in the last 6 years too, and I haven't been able to see them.
Many people from Monterrey here in Mexico were horribly pissed off at them not making booking a date there, but that's not their fault, the people there just didn't see it profitable.

I did a 10-hour drive to see them because of that, so I was kind of upset too, but oh well.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 03, 2016, 07:52:17 AM
Soooo presale begins in 9 minutes and anyone know if there is a code?  There is no information I can find on what kind of presale it even is.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Darkstarshades on August 03, 2016, 07:57:39 AM
Soooo presale begins in 9 minutes and anyone know if there is a code?  There is no information I can find on what kind of presale it even is.

The kind of presale where you give them cash, they keep it, and you get nothing but the right to assist to a concert.
Only to find in horror that you had to bring a detailed ID with you to pick the tickets at the venue. Poor guys at the Teatro Diana show, they had to go back home to pick it up and then return, they entered when Descent of the NOMAC's was starting.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 03, 2016, 07:58:58 AM
Soooo presale begins in 9 minutes and anyone know if there is a code?  There is no information I can find on what kind of presale it even is.

The kind of presale where you give them cash, they keep it, and you get nothing but the right to assist to a concert.
Only to find in horror that you had to bring a detailed ID with you to pick the tickets at the venue. Poor guys at the Teatro Diana show, they had to go back home to pick it up and then return, they entered when Descent of the NOMAC's was starting.

 :lol 

Actually found that today is a AMEX presale and tomorrow is another presale but not sure what that is.  I don't have amex, maybe when my coworker gets in I can use his and pay him back.  That's assuming this presale even has good seats.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 03, 2016, 08:18:00 AM
bluehaze it sounds like you have a lot of issues with, basically, DT's success. Also - you should contact the promoters of some of the venues you are taking about in FL and inquire about them bringing in DT, that would be a much better place to start since venues and promoters are essential to a band like DT (read-not the biggest rock tour in the world right now like GnR) playing certain cities or areas.


One would think that a two time Grammy nominated band has earned enough success to garner the attention of the promoters. They have played here many times in the last 25 years, just not in the last 5 years. All of their clubs shows were filled to the brim and all of the larger shows have had at least 3/4 filled venues. That should be more than enough to garner the attention of promoters. As I said earlier, sellouts are rare these days. Promoters know that and bands know that. If they only expect to play at sellout locations than they are not realistic. Do I have issues with the band's success? I have thought in the past that gee they are getting big and are no longer there for their original fans that lifted them up and gave them their early success. So in a way, it's like finding a secret location in Switzerland that is all your own and then once the word gets out everybody shows up and ruins it for you. That's my comparison to Dream Theater. They've become what Pink Floyd became: a machine. I see why Portnoy left the band. He felt it was becoming a machine....comparisons to the theme of the new album anyone?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 03, 2016, 08:45:26 AM
I just wrote the Olympia Theater imploring them to bring Dream Theater there for their fall tour. Here is a link to this beautiful venue...https://www.olympiatheater.org/   Carl Palmer and his ELP Experience played there last month and they were awesome.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 03, 2016, 09:59:16 AM
One would think that a two time Grammy nominated band has earned enough success to garner the attention of the promoters.

Yup, I agree that, IMO, DT should have the attention of promoters, but (1) that's coming from a bias fan perspective and (2) I don't think two Grammy nominations that don't even get awarded during the live Grammy broadcast have a lot to do with anything.

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They have played here many times in the last 25 years, just not in the last 5 years. All of their clubs shows were filled to the brim and all of the larger shows have had at least 3/4 filled venues. That should be more than enough to garner the attention of promoters. As I said earlier, sellouts are rare these days. Promoters know that and bands know that.

I agree with pretty much everything you said here, but once again, that's on the promoters, not the band.

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Do I have issues with the band's success? I have thought in the past that gee they are getting big and are no longer there for their original fans that lifted them up and gave them their early success.

How are they no longer there for their original fans? They are a band, they create music, distribute it, and then tour to play shows. That's pretty much it. Not sure I follow.

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So in a way, it's like finding a secret location in Switzerland that is all your own and then once the word gets out everybody shows up and ruins it for you. That's my comparison to Dream Theater. They've become what Pink Floyd became: a machine. I see why Portnoy left the band. He felt it was becoming a machine....comparisons to the theme of the new album anyone?

So you like something less simply because more people now like that same thing? That's weird. I like what I like and don't like what I don't like based on my opinion, not based on how many other people do or don't like the same.

And the MP - DT split has been discussed to death here, so I'm not going to touch that...

I just wrote the Olympia Theater imploring them to bring Dream Theater there for their fall tour. Here is a link to this beautiful venue...https://www.olympiatheater.org/   Carl Palmer and his ELP Experience played there last month and they were awesome.

That's the right move, and unfortunately pretty much all you can do. I hope they continue to release more dates and that something pops up near you!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 03, 2016, 12:56:27 PM
I agree with BH that it's pretty annoying when they play 20 dates within a hundred miles of NYC and skip the whole of the South. Particularly this time when it didn't even sell very well. But, as I said before, the South is a different logistical challenge. You can't just go to Fla. You have to hit several places in the vicinity to make the trip worthwhile. That's why bands tend to play 3 shows in Texas or none at all. Add to that, I still think their venue requirements hurt the fans quite a bit. There are a lot of excellent 1-2k concert venues in Dallas, but they won't play anywhere accept the far out of their league 6500 seat Nextstage.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Progmetty on August 03, 2016, 01:56:19 PM
If they don't make Houston, Austin, San Antonio or Dallas on this tour I'll tell everybody DT said "We don't play for rednecks".
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 03, 2016, 02:03:41 PM
I feel bad for DT fans in the south, honestly.  Really sucks.  We in the northeast are spoiled.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on August 03, 2016, 02:12:31 PM
I feel bad for DT fans in the south, honestly.  Really sucks.  We in the northeast are spoiled.

Yeah, I do too. I've said it before, I still can't help but think that if it was important enough to the band, they'd make it happen.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: nicmos on August 03, 2016, 02:14:59 PM
looks like, so far, these are all places they have yet to play on this tour. I like that; there could be hope for the south!

lol yeah right.  the closest I expect them to get to Alabama is Atlanta, so a 3 hour drive for me.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on August 04, 2016, 12:04:07 PM
Yes.  Four of us were at the show, and two of us moved from our seats down close up to the balcony, yet it barely made a difference.  My ears took a beating from the concert and is a large reason why I mostly avoid concerts now (don't want to be deaf before I hit 50).
Ummmm....there's this thing called ear plugs. I've used them for almost every single concert I've been to (beginning with my 5th concert - seeing Metallica early on the black album tour, and I've been to well over 100 since then) and my hearing is great and I don't walk out of the venue in pain or worrying about my hearing. They may take away a little something - especially the crisp highs if you get the cheap types like I do - but they're a much better choice than the alternative, IMO. Oh, and I'm a year older than you.   :P
 

I hate ear plugs. I've tried various kinds, even the ones that are not that cheap, and none of them make anything sound good.  They take away all the highs and make the bass louder and the overall sound boomy and muffled.  Sure, that's better than not being able to hear at all, but I can still hear fine.  Not subjecting myself to any concerts the last 14 months has helped.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Progmetty on August 04, 2016, 09:55:33 PM
Now I use earplugs for the opening acts then remove them when the band I came for starts playing.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Nick on August 05, 2016, 09:02:44 PM
Well, I wasn't going to go to this...

Then someone offered me a face value front row ticket for a show 20 minutes away, so it's a no brainer.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on August 09, 2016, 06:34:08 AM
New dates posted

Oct 10
Capitol Center for the Arts
Concord, NH

Oct 21
Merrill Auditorium
Portland, ME

Oct 29
Star Plaza Theatre
Merrillville, IN

Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on August 09, 2016, 06:53:51 AM
Hmmm... 9 days between New Hampshire and New Jersey with a NY date already announced for shortly after. I wonder what's going on in that timeframe?. It's not like New England is very big. Crossing fingers for another CT stop. The only Oakdale nights not open in that time frame are the 14th and 17th, so I suppose it's a possibility.

I still don't get the need for three dates in PA. Possible filming?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Shadow2222 on August 09, 2016, 08:35:43 AM
I still don't get the need for three dates in PA. Possible filming?

That was my thinking. Perhaps they will be using an orchestra for filming and want 1-2 shows to play with them prior to filming (or film all three dates and choose the best footage). The three shows are within relatively close proximity which would make sense for transporting an entire orchestra and their equipment (and the costs involved).
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 09, 2016, 04:03:21 PM
New dates posted

Oct 10
Capitol Center for the Arts
Concord, NH

Oct 21
Merrill Auditorium
Portland, ME

Oct 29
Star Plaza Theatre
Merrillville, IN


It's so depressing... Oh well. It IS nice to see Maine and New Hampshire getting in on the action for a change. Enjoy.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Another_Won on August 09, 2016, 06:01:32 PM
I'm in!  Second time seeing The Astonishing and only the second time DT has come to Indy!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Darkstarshades on August 09, 2016, 07:14:28 PM
What stops you guys from traveling?
I seriously moved mountains to get free time to go, and it was a 10+ hour drive.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 09, 2016, 07:45:10 PM
What stops you guys from traveling?
I seriously moved mountains to get free time to go, and it was a 10+ hour drive.
I've traveled multiple times to see them in the past. I driven from Homestead Florida to see them in Orlando and Ybor City near Tampa. I've even flown to Europe to see them at Dreamcon 2000 in Den Bosch, Netherlands and London and Sheffield. Hell, just driving from Homestead to Pompano Beach is a two hour drive each way. I've done my share. It's time for THEM to come south of the Mason Dixon line and within a 1000 miles of us in Florida. Those in the Northeast only have to drive 2 to 3 hours to see them in any number of places. If they can pay for the expense of Flying to Australia for 3 shows, certainly they can come to Florida and Georgia again. The Northeast is SPOILED!!!!! Maybe the next time I travel to Europe (if there is a next time) I'll consider planning it around their tour over there so I can catch a few shows. It is an interesting way to see Europe and it takes one to cities and towns I wouldn't otherwise consider seeing. For now, all of my vacation time has been chewed up by back surgeries. I can barely walk and a wheelchair is in my future so I'm not sure if I still have travel in my future. We'll see.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on August 10, 2016, 07:23:41 AM
For now, all of my vacation time has been chewed up by back surgeries. I can barely walk and a wheelchair is in my future 

Geez, Haze, I'm sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 10, 2016, 09:43:36 AM
For now, all of my vacation time has been chewed up by back surgeries. I can barely walk and a wheelchair is in my future 

Geez, Haze, I'm sorry to hear that.

I appreciate that.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 10, 2016, 11:38:41 AM
What stops you guys from traveling?
I seriously moved mountains to get free time to go, and it was a 10+ hour drive.
I've traveled multiple times to see them in the past. I driven from Homestead Florida to see them in Orlando and Ybor City near Tampa. I've even flown to Europe to see them at Dreamcon 2000 in Den Bosch, Netherlands and London and Sheffield. Hell, just driving from Homestead to Pompano Beach is a two hour drive each way. I've done my share. It's time for THEM to come south of the Mason Dixon line and within a 1000 miles of us in Florida. Those in the Northeast only have to drive 2 to 3 hours to see them in any number of places. If they can pay for the expense of Flying to Australia for 3 shows, certainly they can come to Florida and Georgia again. The Northeast is SPOILED!!!!! Maybe the next time I travel to Europe (if there is a next time) I'll consider planning it around their tour over there so I can catch a few shows. It is an interesting way to see Europe and it takes one to cities and towns I wouldn't otherwise consider seeing. For now, all of my vacation time has been chewed up by back surgeries. I can barely walk and a wheelchair is in my future so I'm not sure if I still have travel in my future. We'll see.
Damn, dude, way to reply with authority.  :lol

And I've certainly done my bid traveling to see them, as well. That doesn't change the fact that people in NE are spoiled rotten (and not just by DT), while the South is often an afterthought (mostly just DT).

That sucks about the back thing. On the bright side, some venues really treat cripples very well. A lot of places set aside front row seats for handicap seating. Some friends saw Tool at Red Rocks and not only did they get front row seats, but they got a ride in from the parking lot in a golf cart.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on August 10, 2016, 01:19:08 PM
What is the deal with releasing these dates with a slow drip?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Darkstarshades on August 10, 2016, 01:55:22 PM
Yeah dude but it's like the poor guys here at México from a city named Monterrey. They were very spoiled until DT decided not to go there this time. As far as I know it's not the band who says "I'll play there at all costs". Blame your local venues for bringing Justin Bieber and not DT.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 10, 2016, 02:30:37 PM
Yeah dude but it's like the poor guys here at México from a city named Monterrey. They were very spoiled until DT decided not to go there this time. As far as I know it's not the band who says "I'll play there at all costs". Blame your local venues for bringing Justin Bieber and not DT.
Where is the onus on their tour promoter? They have one of the biggest promotion/production companies working for them. That company even has an office in Miami. To use Monterrey as a comparison to the Northeast is a bit off target. The Northeast has now had at least ten shows all within a two to three hour driving distance. I appreciate that they want to play areas they have never played before (Maine, New Hampshire) but that just exposes the ridiculousness of their not making it to the South; afterall, NOBODY can make the argument that Portland has more fans than say Miami or Orlando or that their venues think they can do a better job in selling the concerts to the people of Portland versus Miami. There is just no way that they can make the argument that the promoters in Miami, Orlando, Tampa, Jacksonville, Atlanta, New Orleans, Charlotte, Dallas, and Houston are to blame for not being interested. That idea just defies logic and truth. Again, WHERE IS THEIR TOUR PROMOTER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN? He is obviously not doing a very good job in selling the band in the South.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 10, 2016, 02:37:28 PM
What stops you guys from traveling?
I seriously moved mountains to get free time to go, and it was a 10+ hour drive.
I've traveled multiple times to see them in the past. I driven from Homestead Florida to see them in Orlando and Ybor City near Tampa. I've even flown to Europe to see them at Dreamcon 2000 in Den Bosch, Netherlands and London and Sheffield. Hell, just driving from Homestead to Pompano Beach is a two hour drive each way. I've done my share. It's time for THEM to come south of the Mason Dixon line and within a 1000 miles of us in Florida. Those in the Northeast only have to drive 2 to 3 hours to see them in any number of places. If they can pay for the expense of Flying to Australia for 3 shows, certainly they can come to Florida and Georgia again. The Northeast is SPOILED!!!!! Maybe the next time I travel to Europe (if there is a next time) I'll consider planning it around their tour over there so I can catch a few shows. It is an interesting way to see Europe and it takes one to cities and towns I wouldn't otherwise consider seeing. For now, all of my vacation time has been chewed up by back surgeries. I can barely walk and a wheelchair is in my future so I'm not sure if I still have travel in my future. We'll see.
Damn, dude, way to reply with authority.  :lol

And I've certainly done my bid traveling to see them, as well. That doesn't change the fact that people in NE are spoiled rotten (and not just by DT), while the South is often an afterthought (mostly just DT).

That sucks about the back thing. On the bright side, some venues really treat cripples very well. A lot of places set aside front row seats for handicap seating. Some friends saw Tool at Red Rocks and not only did they get front row seats, but they got a ride in from the parking lot in a golf cart.
Regarding handicap treatment, This is true. When I saw Carl Palmer at the Olympia Theater in Miami, they noticed I was walking with a bad limp and a cane and they asked where I was sitting. We told them up in the balcony. They gave us seats in the 11 row on the floor which I thought was very nice and cool of them. I recently wrote the Olympia Theater to ask them to bring DT there as it is a gorgeous theater and just right for this tour. We'll see. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: DreamerTV on August 11, 2016, 06:05:15 AM
Particularly this time when it didn't even sell very well. But, as I said before, the South is a different logistical challenge.

 :huh:
I thought they did ok for their US standards...

EDTI:
Meanwhile, from DT fb page (i won't comment about the official fb page not being able to use one of their official photos to create such an awful image...)

(https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13924834_10153646524197181_646476778142449973_n.jpg?oh=e31900e7d52ff4d6b43caa30fe555a23&oe=5814801D)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on August 12, 2016, 09:09:08 AM
Yeah dude but it's like the poor guys here at México from a city named Monterrey. They were very spoiled until DT decided not to go there this time. As far as I know it's not the band who says "I'll play there at all costs". Blame your local venues for bringing Justin Bieber and not DT.
Where is the onus on their tour promoter? They have one of the biggest promotion/production companies working for them. That company even has an office in Miami. To use Monterrey as a comparison to the Northeast is a bit off target. The Northeast has now had at least ten shows all within a two to three hour driving distance. I appreciate that they want to play areas they have never played before (Maine, New Hampshire) but that just exposes the ridiculousness of their not making it to the South; afterall, NOBODY can make the argument that Portland has more fans than say Miami or Orlando or that their venues think they can do a better job in selling the concerts to the people of Portland versus Miami. There is just no way that they can make the argument that the promoters in Miami, Orlando, Tampa, Jacksonville, Atlanta, New Orleans, Charlotte, Dallas, and Houston are to blame for not being interested. That idea just defies logic and truth. Again, WHERE IS THEIR TOUR PROMOTER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN? He is obviously not doing a very good job in selling the band in the South.

I don't know what you mean by "their tour promoter."  There is no such thing as a band's "tour promoter."  Promoters work in local markets and do not work for the bands.  They contract with bands and labels to plan tours in their local markets. 

As far as the argument that "There is just no way that they can make the argument that the promoters in Miami, Orlando, Tampa, Jacksonville, Atlanta, New Orleans, Charlotte, Dallas, and Houston are to blame for not being interested," the argument is what it is.  If you don't believe it's true, then that's fine.  If you want to prove that it isn't true, then please tell us precisely which promoters in those markets have expressed interest in booking DT and believe they could do it and make it profitable for the band.  I'm sure the band would love to know who they should be getting in touch with. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Shadow2222 on August 12, 2016, 09:17:46 AM
Lakewood, OH and Toledo, OH just announced. Sure wish they would've went to Columbus this time.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 12, 2016, 09:27:29 AM
Lakewood, OH and Toledo, OH just announced. Sure wish they would've went to Columbus this time.

Oh man, Lakewood is probably only about 2 or 2 and a half hours from me.... Might consider going
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: As I Am on August 12, 2016, 12:39:56 PM
The NJ show is selling HORRIBLY. Can't say I'm surprised.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on August 12, 2016, 01:06:09 PM
Facebook says coming soon to California.  Maybe dinner theater at The Grove in Anaheim, which they usually hit on their second CA leg?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 12, 2016, 01:08:42 PM
The NJ show is selling HORRIBLY. Can't say I'm surprised.

Yup, I noticed as well.  That venue looks huge and nothing but the front floor section is sold. 

What is cool, and if maybe there is some interest in it, I can help organize, but there are the little boxes along the sides.  Some of those boxes are completely unsold.  Would DTF be interested in getting a box to ourselves? 

https://www.ticketmaster.com/dream-theater-presents-the-astonishing-live-newark-new-jersey-10-19-2016/event/000050FA1F9EA8F0?artistid=744581&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=200&tm_link=search_msg-0_000050FA1F9EA8F0 (https://www.ticketmaster.com/dream-theater-presents-the-astonishing-live-newark-new-jersey-10-19-2016/event/000050FA1F9EA8F0?artistid=744581&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=200&tm_link=search_msg-0_000050FA1F9EA8F0)

Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ResultsMayVary on August 12, 2016, 02:06:54 PM
Lakewood, OH and Toledo, OH just announced. Sure wish they would've went to Columbus this time.
I'll be hitting one of these, most likely. Still a 3-4 hour drive from southern Ohio, but I'll make the trip. My youngest brother will tag along and I have a few buddies who couldn't make the Cincy show on the last leg, so they'll probably go as well.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Darkstarshades on August 12, 2016, 10:57:55 PM
Chill out, I was paranoid because the Guadalajara show didn't even manage to sell more than half the venue's capacity until there was less than a few weeks before the show.

Around 40% of the venue's seats were sold in the last 72 hours, and they managed to sell everything but a few spots in the second balcony.

And as far as I can see, the show has already sold much more than the Guadalajara show in the same timeframe  :lol :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 13, 2016, 03:21:33 PM
Yeah dude but it's like the poor guys here at México from a city named Monterrey. They were very spoiled until DT decided not to go there this time. As far as I know it's not the band who says "I'll play there at all costs". Blame your local venues for bringing Justin Bieber and not DT.
Where is the onus on their tour promoter? They have one of the biggest promotion/production companies working for them. That company even has an office in Miami. To use Monterrey as a comparison to the Northeast is a bit off target. The Northeast has now had at least ten shows all within a two to three hour driving distance. I appreciate that they want to play areas they have never played before (Maine, New Hampshire) but that just exposes the ridiculousness of their not making it to the South; afterall, NOBODY can make the argument that Portland has more fans than say Miami or Orlando or that their venues think they can do a better job in selling the concerts to the people of Portland versus Miami. There is just no way that they can make the argument that the promoters in Miami, Orlando, Tampa, Jacksonville, Atlanta, New Orleans, Charlotte, Dallas, and Houston are to blame for not being interested. That idea just defies logic and truth. Again, WHERE IS THEIR TOUR PROMOTER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN? He is obviously not doing a very good job in selling the band in the South.

I don't know what you mean by "their tour promoter."  There is no such thing as a band's "tour promoter."  Promoters work in local markets and do not work for the bands.  They contract with bands and labels to plan tours in their local markets. 

As far as the argument that "There is just no way that they can make the argument that the promoters in Miami, Orlando, Tampa, Jacksonville, Atlanta, New Orleans, Charlotte, Dallas, and Houston are to blame for not being interested," the argument is what it is.  If you don't believe it's true, then that's fine.  If you want to prove that it isn't true, then please tell us precisely which promoters in those markets have expressed interest in booking DT and believe they could do it and make it profitable for the band.  I'm sure the band would love to know who they should be getting in touch with.

Tell me Bosk, who are these people? THEY are responsible for reaching out to venues for Dream Theater to play.. Tour promoter talent agency whatever... you know exactly what I mean. It is their job to sell the band, not to sit around waiting for calls from venues. If venues call, that's great, but they were hired to sell the band. https://www.apa-agency.com/concerts/Dream_Theater.aspx
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on August 13, 2016, 04:24:44 PM
No, I don't know what you mean.  Promoters do not work for the band.  They are independent.  The band's management and/or the label reaches out to promoters in each market where the band wants to play.  The promoters have contacts with the venues.  They tell the band management, "I can book you at the following venues, and here is are the contrat guarantee payments I think I can get for you to play, and here are the local expenses for the venues."  Management then compares that to their own expenses and decides whether it is financially worth it.  That's the short version of how it works.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 13, 2016, 04:35:44 PM
Then what is the point of APA? The site clearly has a link for venues requesting booking. They are a talent agency. One of the largest. Are they not there to sell the band's tour to promoters/venues in certain markets? It strikes me as very unlikely that promoters in the South have no desire to bring the band here while bands like Opeth and the Winery Dogs and and YES, which doesn't even have an original member left in it, etc etc. can play here often. Carl Palmer just did multiple shows in Florida with packed houses. Prog DOES sell in the South. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise. As I've said before, DT has always drawn good crowds in Florida, Georgia and I'm sure, Texas.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on August 13, 2016, 04:45:43 PM
I believe where they likely fit into the chain would be between band management and the local promoters.  They are yet another layer of "middle man," so to speak. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 13, 2016, 04:56:50 PM
Well, given the typical length of each leg (they have about a week or two to spare after Nov 1), it appears it won't be happening once again for the South as they have chosen to focus on the Northeast and mid-west yet again. I could be wrong, but, I doubt seriously they will do a third leg in the states after the new year. More likely, they will head to Asia or Europe again. Oh well. At least I will be seeing Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman for my second prog fix of the year Oct. 6 at the Hard Rock casino in Hollywood, Fl.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on August 13, 2016, 05:30:37 PM
Posted on Facebook 7 hrs. ago: Massachusetts coming soon!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ResultsMayVary on August 13, 2016, 05:35:56 PM
It looks like the Toledo date is going to be the one I end up going to. No ticket info from the Stranahan Theatre or DT yet, but I'm hoping the tickets are around the same as they were on the first NA leg of this world tour.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 13, 2016, 06:05:49 PM
It looks like the Toledo date is going to be the one I end up going to. No ticket info from the Stranahan Theatre or DT yet, but I'm hoping the tickets are around the same as they were on the first NA leg of this world tour.

Enjoy!!! I'm sure it'll be great.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on August 13, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
Posted on Facebook 7 hrs. ago: Massachusetts coming soon!

Nice. Hopefully not all the way out in Springfield. I was expecting a Providence date TBH.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ResultsMayVary on August 13, 2016, 07:53:57 PM
It looks like the Toledo date is going to be the one I end up going to. No ticket info from the Stranahan Theatre or DT yet, but I'm hoping the tickets are around the same as they were on the first NA leg of this world tour.

Enjoy!!! I'm sure it'll be great.
Thanks! I sure hope so. I saw them in Cincinnati and Los Angeles on the last tour and I'm excited to see them again.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 14, 2016, 12:12:48 PM
Why so many dates in the NE. Might as well call it The Great Northern Empire leg.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on August 14, 2016, 12:13:43 PM
Why so many dates in the NE. Might as well call it The Great Northern Empire leg.

 :lol

 :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Setlist Scotty on August 14, 2016, 07:41:30 PM
Then what is the point of APA? The site clearly has a link for venues requesting booking. They are a talent agency. One of the largest. Are they not there to sell the band's tour to promoters/venues in certain markets? It strikes me as very unlikely that promoters in the South have no desire to bring the band here while bands like Opeth and the Winery Dogs and and YES, which doesn't even have an original member left in it, etc etc. can play here often. Carl Palmer just did multiple shows in Florida with packed houses. Prog DOES sell in the South. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise. As I've said before, DT has always drawn good crowds in Florida, Georgia and I'm sure, Texas.

I believe where they likely fit into the chain would be between band management and the local promoters.  They are yet another layer of "middle man," so to speak.

Just seeing this post now, so forgive me if I am misunderstanding what's being said here (or asked) or just repeating stuff. Not sure what "APA" is that bluehaze is referring to, but the ones who actually book the dates with the promoters/venues are the booking agents. I'm not sure if they are still using the same guys as in the past (don't have the current tourbook handy), but for many years, they've used The Agency Group for doing their booking, and specifically Steve Martin for North America, and Derek Kemp for Europe, South America and Asia.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on August 15, 2016, 08:57:19 AM
MORE DATES

Oct 15
Auditorium Theatre
Rochester, NY
 
Oct 18
Hanover Theatre for the Performing Arts
Worcester, MA

Nov 15
Centennial Hall
Tucson, AZ
 
Nov 16
City National Grove of Anaheim
Anaheim, CA

Looks like it's extended a few weeks after Nov 1, so they could be doing the Southern trip everyone is dying for.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: BelichickFan on August 15, 2016, 09:16:24 AM
Nov 16
City National Grove of Anaheim
Anaheim, CA
Definitely disappointed that it's a Wednesday but this is a much better location than many recent L.A. shows.  I'm actually really curious how attendance will be as they've played The Astonishing in L.A. twice, so many have seen it already I bet lots will pass on the weekday show.  I guess we'll see soon . . .
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 15, 2016, 11:09:49 AM
Hmm....looks like an AZ trip for me, hopefully.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 15, 2016, 01:24:11 PM
MORE DATES

Oct 15
Auditorium Theatre
Rochester, NY
 
Oct 18
Hanover Theatre for the Performing Arts
Worcester, MA

Nov 15
Centennial Hall
Tucson, AZ
 
Nov 16
City National Grove of Anaheim
Anaheim, CA

Looks like it's extended a few weeks after Nov 1, so they could be doing the Southern trip everyone is dying for.

I hope so. They have two weeks between the 1st and the 15th of November to do so. Time will tell.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 15, 2016, 01:32:13 PM
Then what is the point of APA? The site clearly has a link for venues requesting booking. They are a talent agency. One of the largest. Are they not there to sell the band's tour to promoters/venues in certain markets? It strikes me as very unlikely that promoters in the South have no desire to bring the band here while bands like Opeth and the Winery Dogs and and YES, which doesn't even have an original member left in it, etc etc. can play here often. Carl Palmer just did multiple shows in Florida with packed houses. Prog DOES sell in the South. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise. As I've said before, DT has always drawn good crowds in Florida, Georgia and I'm sure, Texas.

I believe where they likely fit into the chain would be between band management and the local promoters.  They are yet another layer of "middle man," so to speak.

Just seeing this post now, so forgive me if I am misunderstanding what's being said here (or asked) or just repeating stuff. Not sure what "APA" is that bluehaze is referring to, but the ones who actually book the dates with the promoters/venues are the booking agents. I'm not sure if they are still using the same guys as in the past (don't have the current tourbook handy), but for many years, they've used The Agency Group for doing their booking, and specifically Steve Martin for North America, and Derek Kemp for Europe, South America and Asia.
Hey Scotty, here's APA's Link...https://www.apa-agency.com/concerts/Dream_Theater.aspx
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 16, 2016, 10:23:36 AM
Particularly this time when it didn't even sell very well. But, as I said before, the South is a different logistical challenge.

 :huh:
I thought they did ok for their US standards...
Yeah, I was actually being generous. It sold poorly. There were tons of empty seats in Ct. and NYC. Both should have been big sellers. At RCMH the entire 6th or so row was empty. I recall several people buying aftermarket tickets for both of those shows at a fraction of face value. Metty couldn't even give away his Phili tickets. A last minute buyer could have bought resells for $10, or first 6 rows for face. I pay a lot of attention to ticket sales, and I was Astonished at how many went unsold.


Looks like it's extended a few weeks after Nov 1, so they could be doing the Southern trip everyone is dying for.
Not dying for anything, myself. I'm bitching about the lack of a Southern US tour on general principle. As I've said, I blame the band every bit as much as I blame the promoters. Actually, probably more. If they come to Dallas I might go, depending on what tickets cost.Then again I might not.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 16, 2016, 01:01:51 PM
Particularly this time when it didn't even sell very well. But, as I said before, the South is a different logistical challenge.

 :huh:
I thought they did ok for their US standards...
Yeah, I was actually being generous. It sold poorly. There were tons of empty seats in Ct. and NYC. Both should have been big sellers. At RCMH the entire 6th or so row was empty. I recall several people buying aftermarket tickets for both of those shows at a fraction of face value. Metty couldn't even give away his Phili tickets. A last minute buyer could have bought resells for $10, or first 6 rows for face. I pay a lot of attention to ticket sales, and I was Astonished at how many went unsold.

It's really odd to me that they are playing so much in the northeast on this leg since like you said, it didn't do that amazing the first go around... and now they are playing even more dates in the same area  ??? the NJ ticket sales so far are horrendous and they typically do very well in this area.  I also think the venue choice was poor.  Too big and not in the best area.  Would have loved to see them at the Beacon Theater again in NYC or at Count Basie theater in NJ (much smaller venue, but sold well there on the DT12 tour).
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on August 16, 2016, 01:04:46 PM
Yeah. I'm shocked they're up this way again. I'd like to make one of the dates. Anything during the week is out, and the weekend shows currently listed aren't looking promising with my schedule.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on August 16, 2016, 01:07:31 PM
. I'd like to make one of the dates. Anything during the week is out, and the weekend shows currently listed aren't looking promising with my schedule.

Yup. I wish the Rochester NY and Worcester dates were switched. The TACS may have to make an autumn weekend trip to Portland.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 16, 2016, 02:48:38 PM
Particularly this time when it didn't even sell very well. But, as I said before, the South is a different logistical challenge.

 :huh:
I thought they did ok for their US standards...
Yeah, I was actually being generous. It sold poorly. There were tons of empty seats in Ct. and NYC. Both should have been big sellers. At RCMH the entire 6th or so row was empty. I recall several people buying aftermarket tickets for both of those shows at a fraction of face value. Metty couldn't even give away his Phili tickets. A last minute buyer could have bought resells for $10, or first 6 rows for face. I pay a lot of attention to ticket sales, and I was Astonished at how many went unsold.


Looks like it's extended a few weeks after Nov 1, so they could be doing the Southern trip everyone is dying for.
Not dying for anything, myself. I'm bitching about the lack of a Southern US tour on general principle. As I've said, I blame the band every bit as much as I blame the promoters. Actually, probably more. If they come to Dallas I might go, depending on what tickets cost.Then again I might not.

If it is selling poorly, perhaps they should ditch the idea of "The Astonishing" only show and salvage their tour by opening up the setlist. If they made it clear that they were doing that, I'm sure it would sell much better. I certainly wouldn't be disappointed, assuming they do add the South. It wouldn't be that difficult for them to make a tactical change given their level of musicianship and the time before the tour starts up again. If it truly isn't selling very well, then holding on stubbornly to the notion of "The Astonishing" only isn't particularly a smart move.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on August 16, 2016, 07:23:47 PM
Or maybe they love playing the whole album.  Crazy to consider, I know, but even if shows aren't selling out, I am sure they are still making money.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Progmetty on August 16, 2016, 07:44:31 PM
If they do have a Texas date, and I'm not holding my breath, I hope it's still TA in it's entirety setlist, I wanna experience this.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 16, 2016, 07:46:36 PM
Or maybe they love playing the whole album.  Crazy to consider, I know, but even if shows aren't selling out, I am sure they are still making money.
If that's true, it blows the argument that DT has to consider the business end of things as to why that haven't played certain regions. I will say, however, that most concerts these days don't sell out. Sell outs are a rarity.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 17, 2016, 07:25:05 AM
Or maybe they love playing the whole album.  Crazy to consider, I know, but even if shows aren't selling out, I am sure they are still making money.
If that's true, it blows the argument that DT has to consider the business end of things as to why that haven't played certain regions. I will say, however, that most concerts these days don't sell out. Sell outs are a rarity.

Not really.  If the show doesn't sell, I'm sure DT makes a guarantee payout and the promoter suffers the loss.  This is actually the likely reason why a promoter has not gotten DT to play the south... it may be a loss to the promoter.  I could be wrong here.  Although I am with you in that I think DT could put on a show in the south and not have it be a flop, but maybe statistics say something different, I don't know.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 17, 2016, 08:44:05 AM
If I'm a promoter, I'm looking at sales for the first leg of the tour and offering club gigs, which of course they won't accept. Realistically, there are some perfectly nice 1000 seat venues down here which they'd sell well, but they would never do that. And BlueHaze is right. Part of their problem is with the format this tour. Particularly up in the NE. The show, while quite good, was a cookie-cutter gig. Once you've seen it you've seen it. It has very little replay value, even for their fans.

Another consideration when discussing their touring is that they have a pretty fixed audience. They're not exactly attracting legions of new fans. If they sold 1200 seats playing a mixed set one tour, you can bet they're going to sell something pretty close to that on the next tour. It's not like a promoter is going to roll the dice thinking "this time they'll surely sell 2k!" What you can expect is that this tour will sell slightly under the last, since many who don't like the new album will sit this one out. Hell, just adding a proper encore would help their sales.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on August 17, 2016, 08:55:52 AM
If I'm a promoter, I'm looking at sales for the first leg of the tour and offering club gigs, which of course they won't accept. Realistically, there are some perfectly nice 1000 seat venues down here which they'd sell well, but they would never do that. And BlueHaze is right. Part of their problem is with the format this tour. Particularly up in the NE. The show, while quite good, was a cookie-cutter gig. Once you've seen it you've seen it. It has very little replay value, even for their fans.

I think I'm a minority with this album. I'm still listening to it almost daily on my drive home from work, and I would gladly see it live a half dozen more times. I think it's secured the #1 spot on my top DT albums list.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 17, 2016, 09:01:51 AM
If I'm a promoter, I'm looking at sales for the first leg of the tour and offering club gigs, which of course they won't accept. Realistically, there are some perfectly nice 1000 seat venues down here which they'd sell well, but they would never do that. And BlueHaze is right. Part of their problem is with the format this tour. Particularly up in the NE. The show, while quite good, was a cookie-cutter gig. Once you've seen it you've seen it. It has very little replay value, even for their fans.

I think I'm a minority with this album. I'm still listening to it almost daily on my drive home from work, and I would gladly see it live a half dozen more times. I think it's secured the #1 spot on my top DT albums list.
It's not a bad album, albeit a bit hokey for my tastes. I'd consider buying a cheap seat for a Dallas gig. But a whole lot of people, even those who like the album, aren't going to want to see it multiple times. This is a real departure from previous tours. Even once they adopted static setlists there was still some appeal to seeing multiple gigs because there's generally something for everybody. Now it's all or nothing. Either you like the album enough to see it multiple times your you don't.

I just looked at some ticket maps and it's indeed selling poorly. Some venues are pretty close to what I'd expect, albeit still short, but the problem is that DT is mostly going to sell all of their tickets in the first couple of days (hours, technically). The number of seats they sell between now and October is going to be pretty close to the number of seats they're sitting on and will release in the coming weeks. Frankly, I'd be surprised if the Bethlehem show even happens. It has the makings of a gig where they're giving away tickets just to get faces in there.

And a word of advice for the people attending the NJ gig: buy the cheapest nosebleed seats you can get. The day of the show they'll re-ticket the balcony seats and you'll probably wind up on the floor anyway, with the people who payed twice as much.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 17, 2016, 09:08:49 AM
And a word of advice for the people attending the NJ gig: buy the cheapest nosebleed seats you can get. The day of the show they'll re-ticket the balcony seats and you'll probably wind up on the floor anyway, with the people who payed twice as much.

I was thinking the exact same thing.  Had this happen once before for DT in NJ (granted they played a 17,000 capacity venue) so it was easier to know that I'd be getting a free upgrade.  I got a lawn seat and ended up in the ~20th row, right next to fellow DTFers who also got free upgrades.

It's also funny you mention the replay value.  I love TA, but what's really making me question going to the gig is not DT themselves or the performance of TA, but the way these shows are presented.  I don't really want to go to a broadway show to see DT, I want to go to a rock concert and the RCMH felt nothing like a rock concert, but a broadway show.  I want to stand, jump, sing, scream, and even use my camera at times.  I don't want ushers up my ass.  It's this reason and solely this reason that for someone like myself who just saw 311 6 times, is even questioning seeing a band I like a lot more than 311 a second time.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 17, 2016, 09:16:50 AM
Now that I think about it, I wouldn't even buy the $39 balcony seat looking for the inevitable upgrade. You'll probably be able to buy a floor seat for less than that the day of the show on Stubhub.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mike099 on August 17, 2016, 01:24:55 PM
If DT performed an evening with tour, with the first half being a scaled down version of The Astonishing and the second half being a mixed set list I would travel 4 hours to see them.  I do understand the folks that want to see The Astonishing in its entirety, but I would bet that tickets sales would significantly increase for an evening with mixed set.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: BFRedrocks on August 17, 2016, 05:30:47 PM
I actually saw TA on consecutive show dates (11/3-Denver and 11/5-Mesa), and while the shows each had an appeal to them, I don't think it's worth it for me to drive the 2 hrs (roughly) to see the same show again in Tucson, especially during the week.  While I can understand playing the full TA show to areas they missed on the first leg, it's surprising to me that they're repeating it in areas they already visited (or close to those areas).

On the other hand, it's probably pretty easy to just continue a show they've been doing for a bit now rather than have to change up all the visuals and lighting to play a mix of TA songs and other ones.  I hope they do sell a lot of tix for these new shows, but I think I'll be sitting this one out.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 17, 2016, 11:14:44 PM
Nov 16
City National Grove of Anaheim
Anaheim, CA
Definitely disappointed that it's a Wednesday but this is a much better location than many recent L.A. shows.  I'm actually really curious how attendance will be as they've played The Astonishing in L.A. twice, so many have seen it already I bet lots will pass on the weekday show.  I guess we'll see soon . . .


It's The Grove. You can't fit a lot of people in there anyway :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: BelichickFan on August 18, 2016, 11:24:03 AM
I was 50-50 on going but the Anaheim presale appears to require a password that I don't have.  So I guess the answer is no.  Too complicated, just put the tickets on sale.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 18, 2016, 12:14:23 PM
I was 50-50 on going but the Anaheim presale appears to require a password that I don't have.  So I guess the answer is no.  Too complicated, just put the tickets on sale.
Presales are never worth the effort. They'll only be offering relatively average seats. Best to wait and buy good seats later. That is, if you actually care about going.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: BelichickFan on August 18, 2016, 12:21:59 PM
I was 50-50 on going but the Anaheim presale appears to require a password that I don't have.  So I guess the answer is no.  Too complicated, just put the tickets on sale.
Presales are never worth the effort. They'll only be offering relatively average seats. Best to wait and buy good seats later. That is, if you actually care about going.
I'd like to go but it's a 6 hour round trip so it has to be perfect as I already saw The Astonishing live back in April.  The quality of the seats I can get will answer that question I guess.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 18, 2016, 12:41:22 PM
I was 50-50 on going but the Anaheim presale appears to require a password that I don't have.  So I guess the answer is no.  Too complicated, just put the tickets on sale.
Presales are never worth the effort. They'll only be offering relatively average seats. Best to wait and buy good seats later. That is, if you actually care about going.
I'd like to go but it's a 6 hour round trip so it has to be perfect as I already saw The Astonishing live back in April.  The quality of the seats I can get will answer that question I guess.
Anybody that doesn't get inside of ten rows for this tour just isn't trying. Or just doesn't want to spend $70.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Another_Won on August 18, 2016, 12:44:34 PM
I was 50-50 on going but the Anaheim presale appears to require a password that I don't have.  So I guess the answer is no.  Too complicated, just put the tickets on sale.
Presales are never worth the effort. They'll only be offering relatively average seats. Best to wait and buy good seats later. That is, if you actually care about going.
I'd like to go but it's a 6 hour round trip so it has to be perfect as I already saw The Astonishing live back in April.  The quality of the seats I can get will answer that question I guess.
Anybody that doesn't get inside of ten rows for this tour just isn't trying. Or just doesn't want to spend $70.
Yup.  I'm in row 8 and I got the tickets several days after general sale started.

See, this is a reason to go.  You'll get great seats!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: BelichickFan on August 18, 2016, 01:09:41 PM
I was 50-50 on going but the Anaheim presale appears to require a password that I don't have.  So I guess the answer is no.  Too complicated, just put the tickets on sale.
Presales are never worth the effort. They'll only be offering relatively average seats. Best to wait and buy good seats later. That is, if you actually care about going.
I'd like to go but it's a 6 hour round trip so it has to be perfect as I already saw The Astonishing live back in April.  The quality of the seats I can get will answer that question I guess.
Anybody that doesn't get inside of ten rows for this tour just isn't trying. Or just doesn't want to spend $70.
I'll probably have no choice if that's the case.  I was in about the 6th row in April and it was really cool to be that close to Petrucci, et al.  It is annoying, though, having a presale and I have no clue how to get the password.  But it sounds like it may not matter much, if at all.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on August 18, 2016, 04:41:02 PM
Password for Anaheim presale is ASTONISHING.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: BelichickFan on August 18, 2016, 05:10:34 PM
Password for Anaheim presale is ASTONISHING.
Thanks.  Front row "tables" still available, does anyone know if the front row is too close (meaning bad angle, having to look way up) or if it's at a comfortable position as we all know now this is a sitting event (which I still find a little weird but whatever).

I guess in addition to that as there's a General Admission standing area, are the tables high enough to be above the GA ?  Bottom line, for the tables, does anyone know if the fronts are better or the second row ?  I saw them here for ADToE tour but I don't remember the answers to my questions.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on August 18, 2016, 07:13:34 PM
The first row of tables are a great location - eye level with the stage, not too close, very nice vantage.  I suggest getting seats at the front of the table (either seats 1 and 2, or 11 and 12) because you could be at the first table, but because they are positioned long way perpendicular to the stage, if you get seat 6, you'll have 5 people sitting in front you possibly obstructing your view.

Last time at the Grove (ADTOE) I had a seat first table, first seat against the railing, and it felt like the best seat in the house.  But since Nov 16 is a work night I will not be able to get to Anaheim by 6:00pm - so general admission for me.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 18, 2016, 07:23:50 PM
As much as I love The Grove, I will be skipping this leg of the tour for 2 reasons.

1: It's a work night. There's no way, even with leaving work early, that I'd be able to get down there especially in rush hour traffic. I've had it take 3.5 hours to get from Ventura to Anaheim.


B: I don't hate The Astonishing... but... meh.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: BelichickFan on August 18, 2016, 08:45:26 PM
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Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on August 19, 2016, 05:32:33 AM
Password for Anaheim presale is ASTONISHING.

Really? What is it?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 19, 2016, 07:32:07 AM
Password for Anaheim presale is ASTONISHING.

Really? What is it?

 :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on August 19, 2016, 09:00:09 AM
Picked up a front row ticket for the Worcester show. If I end up going with my brother or one of my friends, I may end up selling it to sit with them. But for now I'm pretty excited to see them front row.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ronnibran on August 19, 2016, 01:21:01 PM
OMG I almost have to go.  I pretty much gave up on going to concerts, as I've worn out traveling long distances to see shows.  So I was floored when I saw DT was going to be playing in Grand Rapids Michigan!!!  I'd be pretty much stupid to NOT go.  Has it been confirmed that they're performing The Astonishing (in its entirety)?  I'd prefer a concert with a more "random" set list but would be happy to see either without having to travel for it.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on August 19, 2016, 05:19:31 PM
Password for Anaheim presale is ASTONISHING.

Really? What is it?

 :lol

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Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on August 21, 2016, 04:38:49 PM
According to Facebook, looks like we're getting a show in NC after all! This is so cool!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 21, 2016, 06:10:54 PM
IT'S FINALLY COME TRUE!!! Per Dream Theater's Facebook post, Florida is coming soon. Hurray!!!!!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 21, 2016, 08:26:03 PM
According to Facebook, looks like we're getting a show in NC after all! This is so cool!
I saw that!  Can't wait to see where!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 22, 2016, 07:16:47 AM
IT'S FINALLY COME TRUE!!! Per Dream Theater's Facebook post, Florida is coming soon. Hurray!!!!!

The quote for all you southern fans:

Quote
Dates are still being announced for the Fall Tour. First Florida show since ADTOE to be announced soon, and hopefully more Southern dates as well!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: AngelBack on August 22, 2016, 09:29:52 AM
ATLANTA !!!  December 4 Symphony Hall.....high class.....woohooo!!!!!!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on August 22, 2016, 09:46:46 AM
I hope that the band schedules smaller venues that they can fill. I would hate to go to a show here that's 3/4 empty because they decided to play at a 4000 seat place.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ResultsMayVary on August 22, 2016, 09:51:01 AM
DT playing in Orlando at the Hard Rock on December 2nd.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: BelichickFan on August 22, 2016, 10:06:06 AM
The first row of tables are a great location - eye level with the stage, not too close, very nice vantage.  I suggest getting seats at the front of the table (either seats 1 and 2, or 11 and 12) because you could be at the first table, but because they are positioned long way perpendicular to the stage, if you get seat 6, you'll have 5 people sitting in front you possibly obstructing your view.

Last time at the Grove (ADTOE) I had a seat first table, first seat against the railing, and it felt like the best seat in the house.  But since Nov 16 is a work night I will not be able to get to Anaheim by 6:00pm - so general admission for me.
Thanks for the input.  Although it's a very inconvenient day (6+ hour roundtrip on a Wednesday), I had started avoiding listening to TA because it made me sad that I might not go so I went ahead and did it.

I could have had Row 1 Seat 4 in Section 210 (front row of tables, about three tables over from the middle).  But instead went with Section 228 (I think that is the number) Row 2 Seat 1, this is the second set of tables back but right in the middle slightly to JP's side.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 22, 2016, 10:15:51 AM
Apparently the NC date is Sunday November 27th at the Durham Performing Arts Center, which is a FANTASTIC venue and is the one I was hoping for.  It is state of the art (only built in 2008) and it's only about 25 minutes from my house. 

Sweet, sweet, sweet!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ReaperKK on August 22, 2016, 10:49:00 AM
DT playing in Orlando at the Hard Rock on December 2nd.

That's a great venue for them. Smaller venue then I would've guessed DT playing
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on August 22, 2016, 11:12:46 AM
Looks like they are going to do a run in Texas too. Hittin' all the States this time! Seems to be a long tour, going all the way into December.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 22, 2016, 11:30:27 AM
There's a San Antonio date listed, so it reasons that there'll be Houston/Dallas dates, as well. I"m curious where they plan to play in Dallas. They only sell a tiny fraction of their preferred venue on normal tours. I can't imagine this one sells as well. In the meantime plenty of bands are playing The Majestic now, which would be a perfect fit for them. Never understood their need to always play out in Grand Prairie, so we'll see if they've come to their senses.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 22, 2016, 03:11:43 PM
Given their track from Orlando to Atlanta, I would expect a South Florida date of Dec 1 which would be a Thursday which is perfect for me. I have Thursdays and Fridays off so that would be perfect, and I can see them in both the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area as well as Orlando. I have to do both since I have been screaming for them to come down to the South. Even though it will be the same show, I have to show them some love for their first ever Evening with... shows ever in Florida. Stoked!!!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 22, 2016, 03:14:31 PM
Given their track from Orlando to Atlanta, I would expect a South Florida date of Dec 1 which would be a Thursday which is perfect for me. I have Thursdays and Fridays off so that would be perfect, and I can see them in both the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area as well as Orlando. I have to do both since I have been screaming for them to come down to the South. Even though it will be the same show, I have to show them some love for their first ever Evening with... shows ever in Florida. Stoked!!!

If you didnt go to your local southern show I dont know what would happen!  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on August 22, 2016, 03:27:01 PM
bluehaze should be introduced on stage.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: goo-goo on August 22, 2016, 08:07:50 PM
Does anybody know the presale code for the San Antonio show?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gm5k on August 22, 2016, 08:20:46 PM
Does anybody know the presale code for the San Antonio show?

Yes this would be great to know  ;D
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on August 22, 2016, 08:39:23 PM
bluehaze should be introduced on stage.
Jajajajaja I'll do that. Yo soy dios dorado!!!! ;-)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 22, 2016, 09:16:20 PM
Does anybody know the presale code for the San Antonio show?
I reckon that if you just try astonishing you've got a 50/50 shot at getting it. Ravenskill and nomac probably cover another 25%.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Progmetty on August 22, 2016, 10:54:02 PM
Barto are you coming to the San Antonio date? I mean if you fall upon great tickets maybe! I know you've already seen the show.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gm5k on August 22, 2016, 11:17:17 PM
I'll be at the SA date with at least one buddy, and we're trying to get 3-4 others to go.  So hype!!  :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: DreamerTV on August 23, 2016, 05:54:09 AM
DT playing in Orlando at the Hard Rock on December 2nd.

That's a great venue for them. Smaller venue then I would've guessed DT playing

Actually they've already played there in 2011 with Trivium
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 23, 2016, 07:19:12 AM
Looks like they are going to do a run in Texas too. Hittin' all the States this time! Seems to be a long tour, going all the way into December.

That'll be the day when they hit New Mexico as a headlining act.

Itd be cool if they could play the Santa Fe Opera, but it's outdoors and it'll be too cold in Nov. But still, I wish to one day see them here. The Lensic in Santa Fe would be a great venue, Steve Vai played there and heard it was bombastic.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 23, 2016, 10:49:01 AM
Barto are you coming to the San Antonio date? I mean if you fall upon great tickets maybe! I know you've already seen the show.
Seems pretty unlikely. Mostly due to it's Wednesdayness. If Houston gets a Fri show it's remotely possible I drive down, but it'd probably be a spur of the moment deal involving front row seats again. I'll be taking a similar approach in Dallas.

You catching multiple shows, or just hitting SA to see it with your BIL?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TheRich13 on August 23, 2016, 11:06:57 AM
Anyone know if there's a presale password for the Orlando show ? I've heard that presale tickets arent necessarily great seats upfront ...Any truth to that ? If tix go on sale this friday, I might be screwed cause I'll be on a plane ...Which is better ? To buy tix through ticketmaster or through the DT.Net site ? Or will the DT site just redirect me to ticketmaster anyway ?? THANKS !!!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TheRich13 on August 23, 2016, 11:36:13 AM
Anyone know if there's a presale password for the Orlando show ? I've heard that presale tickets arent necessarily great seats upfront ...Any truth to that ? If tix go on sale this friday, I might be screwed cause I'll be on a plane ...Which is better ? To buy tix through ticketmaster or through the DT.Net site ? Or will the DT site just redirect me to ticketmaster anyway ?? THANKS !!!

OK! I found out that tix go on sale Fri at ticketmaster at 10 am and there is a presale at 10 am tomorrow but I do not know a password and I dont have an Amex card..do you have to use an Amex ?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Progmetty on August 23, 2016, 12:47:05 PM
Barto are you coming to the San Antonio date? I mean if you fall upon great tickets maybe! I know you've already seen the show.
Seems pretty unlikely. Mostly due to it's Wednesdayness. If Houston gets a Fri show it's remotely possible I drive down, but it'd probably be a spur of the moment deal involving front row seats again. I'll be taking a similar approach in Dallas.

You catching multiple shows, or just hitting SA to see it with your BIL?

It depends on how the financial situation is like by then, I can't afford to buy any tickets now but if things get better I'll try to catch two of the Texas shows, if more are announced.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: thunderdog10 on August 24, 2016, 08:06:42 AM
orlando code is astonishing
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 24, 2016, 09:00:48 AM
orlando code is astonishing
I'm astonished.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TheRich13 on August 24, 2016, 09:11:49 AM
Got Row C Center for Orlando...
Seems to be a center floor section in front of center section on seating chart...but I got what i got and i'm pscyched !!!If I was much closer I might get lost in the beard...
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: goo-goo on August 24, 2016, 12:28:25 PM
Presale code for San Antonio

SHARKS

Got first row on the top balcony.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ronnibran on August 24, 2016, 08:24:25 PM
I was amazed that the local rock radio was promoting the concert (only knew b/c wife told me, I don't listen to the radio), since I haven't heard DT on the radio since probably "Lie" or "Burning My Soul."  Anywho, she said they were giving away tickets and then she actually won them!  So I'll be seeing DT in Grand Rapids (was likely going to go anyway).
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 25, 2016, 06:45:18 AM
I was amazed that the local rock radio was promoting the concert (only knew b/c wife told me, I don't listen to the radio), since I haven't heard DT on the radio since probably "Lie" or "Burning My Soul."  Anywho, she said they were giving away tickets and then she actually won them!  So I'll be seeing DT in Grand Rapids (was likely going to go anyway).

Thats awesome  :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 25, 2016, 08:16:58 AM
Sweet!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: badger on August 25, 2016, 10:45:21 AM
Think there will be any more dates announced?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 25, 2016, 11:14:47 AM
Think there will be any more dates announced?
Wouldn't surprise me.

Looking at their tour right now - there is a gap between Concord NH (Oct. 10th) and Worcester MA (Oct. 18th) - seems a bit early in the tour to take a week off.

Another gap between Milwaukee WI (Nov. 1st) and San Antonio TX (Nov. 9th), although by that point in the schedule, that could be real time off.

Next stop after that is Tuscon, AZ (Nov. 15th), so some more spots could be added there.

The gap between San Jose, CA (Nov. 20th) and Durham, NC (Nov. 27th) makes sense for the  equipment to make a cross-country journey, but the only other stops after that are Orlando FL (Dec. 2nd) and Atlanta GA (Dec. 4th), so I fully expect a few more shows to be added to the Southeast portion.

All in all, there is definitely room for more shows, and I expect more to be added.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 25, 2016, 11:29:37 AM
Yea, there's an awful lot of gaps in the dates there that I would expect to be filled, but who knows.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on August 25, 2016, 12:34:54 PM
I would guess that to be the case as well.  But as for that first gap, given that they are in the NE during that period, it may very well just be a gap in the schedule so they can spend some time at home.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on August 25, 2016, 12:46:24 PM
I would guess that to be the case as well.  But as for that first gap, given that they are in the NE during that period, it may very well just be a gap in the schedule so they can spend some time at home.

I'm going to pretend that DT doesn't have family and they're just crossing the Ts and dotting the Is for back-to-back filming nights in CT.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on August 25, 2016, 12:49:41 PM
:lol  Okay. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 25, 2016, 01:11:29 PM
It would be super awesome if they film one of these dates.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 25, 2016, 01:17:23 PM
It would be super awesome if they film one of these dates.

Yup, I'd really love some confirmation that they will film a show.  A blu-ray from this tour would be optimal.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gm5k on August 25, 2016, 07:51:34 PM
Got tickets.  I'll be at the SA show with 4 friends.  The Tobin Center looks incredible and apparently sounds good too.  Going to be amazing!  :metal

There's no way they'd film a bluray in San Antonio, Texas right?  :lol  They do have a week off before the show...but nah that isn't happening  ;D
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ResultsMayVary on August 25, 2016, 08:04:10 PM
I would guess that to be the case as well.  But as for that first gap, given that they are in the NE during that period, it may very well just be a gap in the schedule so they can spend some time at home.
That was my first thought. And then I noticed there are no Canada dates so far on this NA leg, so that may be the period where they do some central to eastern Canada shows.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: goo-goo on August 25, 2016, 09:57:11 PM
Got tickets.  I'll be at the SA show with 4 friends.  The Tobin Center looks incredible and apparently sounds good too.  Going to be amazing!  :metal

There's no way they'd film a bluray in San Antonio, Texas right?  :lol  They do have a week off before the show...but nah that isn't happening  ;D

I'll be there...first row on the Balcony. I'm thinking of selling the ones I bought and going for the Mezzanine.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: theanalogkid7 on August 26, 2016, 12:07:23 AM
THEY JUST POSTED THEYRE COMING TO OKLAHOMA!!! Holy crap!!!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 26, 2016, 12:40:32 AM
THEY JUST POSTED THEYRE COMING TO OKLAHOMA!!! Holy crap!!!

What day? I don't see it.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: theanalogkid7 on August 26, 2016, 07:12:20 AM
THEY JUST POSTED THEYRE COMING TO OKLAHOMA!!! Holy crap!!!

What day? I don't see it.

It just says "Oklahoma Coming Soon" on an image posted to their Facebook page.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 26, 2016, 09:57:33 AM
That's what they did for North Carolina a day or so before announcing the Durham venue and date.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 26, 2016, 01:08:24 PM
I'd guess Tulsa. They get plenty of acts coming through, nowadays.


edit: Yup, Tulsa, 11/12
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 26, 2016, 02:33:40 PM
I'd guess Tulsa. They get plenty of acts coming through, nowadays.


edit: Yup, Tulsa, 11/12

Sadly, I bet those two off days between then and Arizona. They'll pass on by NM. Or put in a CO date
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: sylvan on August 26, 2016, 04:19:51 PM
Got Row C Center for Orlando...
Seems to be a center floor section in front of center section on seating chart...but I got what i got and i'm pscyched !!!If I was much closer I might get lost in the beard...

I was confused with the actual location of the presale tickets, so I held out for Friday and got front row balcony, exactly what I was looking for. I'm pretty psyched, as I've only seen DT once on the Prog Nation tour, ironically at the same venue. Gotta love the leg room!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on August 26, 2016, 04:29:17 PM
I'd guess Tulsa. They get plenty of acts coming through, nowadays.


edit: Yup, Tulsa, 11/12

Sadly, I bet those two off days between then and Arizona. They'll pass on by NM. Or put in a CO date

No one seems to have the time for NM anymore.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 26, 2016, 05:19:50 PM
I'd guess Tulsa. They get plenty of acts coming through, nowadays.


edit: Yup, Tulsa, 11/12

Sadly, I bet those two off days between then and Arizona. They'll pass on by NM. Or put in a CO date

No one seems to have the time for NM anymore.

Pretty much. But I'm used to it. We don't have much prog fans to generate promotion to play and plus no venues just big enough to bring those middle tier bands.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: axeman90210 on August 31, 2016, 08:07:40 AM
Too lazy to scan 7 pages, anyone else going to the Newark show? It's easy for me to get there from work, so considering buying a ticket.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 31, 2016, 08:18:51 AM
Too lazy to scan 7 pages, anyone else going to the Newark show? It's easy for me to get there from work, so considering buying a ticket.

I plan on going
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: axeman90210 on August 31, 2016, 08:45:55 AM
Too lazy to scan 7 pages, anyone else going to the Newark show? It's easy for me to get there from work, so considering buying a ticket.

I plan on going

Word. I'm probably not getting a ticket until right beforehand to see if any good seats get released at the last minute.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 31, 2016, 08:50:14 AM
Too lazy to scan 7 pages, anyone else going to the Newark show? It's easy for me to get there from work, so considering buying a ticket.

I plan on going

Word. I'm probably not getting a ticket until right beforehand to see if any good seats get released at the last minute.

Same, but also for potential cheaper seats.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: axeman90210 on August 31, 2016, 09:12:40 AM
Too lazy to scan 7 pages, anyone else going to the Newark show? It's easy for me to get there from work, so considering buying a ticket.

I plan on going

Word. I'm probably not getting a ticket until right beforehand to see if any good seats get released at the last minute.

Same, but also for potential cheaper seats.

Alright cool, we should talk closer to the show.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: MasterLomaxus on August 31, 2016, 10:15:11 AM
So, apparently a Missouri date(s) is coming. 

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14102655_10153695126082181_8175991465156376719_n.jpg?oh=c20f2c67731688a5597e92ad0954ae6b&oe=58387B7A)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on August 31, 2016, 01:28:00 PM
THEY JUST POSTED THEYRE COMING TO OKLAHOMA!!! Holy crap!!!

(https://media.riffsy.com/images/b89a5c0cc0969059fd5ccf2c2c88645d/raw)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on September 01, 2016, 05:55:02 AM
I'm going to be hitting up the Capitol Theatre show in NY. Do I want VIP Platform seats, or do I want front row balcony?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on September 01, 2016, 08:04:03 AM
I'm going to be hitting up the Capitol Theatre show in NY. Do I want VIP Platform seats, or do I want front row balcony?
Can't remember whether you saw them the first time through.  If you haven't seen this show yet, I'd do the balcony.  If given the choice, I generally prefer being closer.  But this stage setup is something that, IMO, is best experienced if you are a bit farther back and can take in the whole thing.  ...unless, of course, you've already done that at a prior show, in which case I would try to get close up.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on September 01, 2016, 08:08:30 AM
I'm going to be hitting up the Capitol Theatre show in NY. Do I want VIP Platform seats, or do I want front row balcony?
Can't remember whether you saw them the first time through.  If you haven't seen this show yet, I'd do the balcony.  If given the choice, I generally prefer being closer.  But this stage setup is something that, IMO, is best experienced if you are a bit farther back and can take in the whole thing.  ...unless, of course, you've already done that at a prior show, in which case I would try to get close up.

I've seen it twice so far  :lol

Both appear to be about the same distance away from the stage. The VIP section is elevated behind the sound booth, but it has more leg room and a booze server. I could get front row balcony for $20 a ticket less. Even though I've seen it already, I'd prefer to be further away. This show is great from a slight distance. It's like going to see the Trans Siberian Orchestra. Sitting up close means missing all the awesome visuals.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Awaken on September 01, 2016, 08:28:48 AM
I'm going to be hitting up the Capitol Theatre show in NY. Do I want VIP Platform seats, or do I want front row balcony?

I was just looking at tix for that show, as well, thinking about going with the balcony.  Would rather do the 2 hour drive on a Saturday and the 1 hour to Mass on a Tuesday. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on September 01, 2016, 09:54:03 AM
Even though I've already seen The Astonishing twice in Los Angeles, I'm going to Anaheim simply for to encourage this second circuit.  DT canvases Europe in two legs every tour, but don't always do two US legs.  Have to continue to let the band know that it will ALWAYS be worth booking multiple shows in the Los Angeles area.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ResultsMayVary on September 04, 2016, 05:42:18 PM
Even though I've already seen The Astonishing twice in Los Angeles, I'm going to Anaheim simply for to encourage this second circuit.  DT canvases Europe in two legs every tour, but don't always do two US legs.  Have to continue to let the band know that it will ALWAYS be worth booking multiple shows in the Los Angeles area.
When they first announced this leg, I had the same mindset. I saw them in Cincinnati and the second night in Los Angeles. But following the announcements of the Toledo and Lakewood shows here in Ohio where I live, I'll make the trip to one of those shows because I genuinely want to see the show again.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on September 06, 2016, 07:19:55 AM
Bought tickets to the show at the Capitol Theatre  :metal


SEC Balcony Center A-F   ROW A   SEAT 111
SEC Balcony Center A-F   ROW A   SEAT 112
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on September 06, 2016, 08:21:16 AM
Dallas is getting a show, and as expected it's the 6,400 seat Verizon. Makes no sense to me, but whatever.

If Houston gets a show it'll either be the 8th or the 10th. That southern leg is filling in.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: MasterLomaxus on September 06, 2016, 10:04:48 AM
Looks like St. Louis finally got a show.  It's about damn time.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on September 06, 2016, 02:20:10 PM
Wasn't there a North Carolina show??? It looks like it was removed. Also, still no other shows in Florida aside from Orlando...
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Setlist Scotty on September 06, 2016, 03:11:56 PM
Yup. And the date on Oct. 15th for Rochester, NY was also removed some time ago.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on September 06, 2016, 03:16:34 PM
Yup. And the date on Oct. 15th for Rochester, NY was also removed some time ago.

Really? I'm so pissed the Worcester show didn't get that date.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on September 06, 2016, 05:38:10 PM
Looks like St. Louis finally got a show.  It's about damn time.

Damn right. :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on September 07, 2016, 06:21:36 AM
Yup. And the date on Oct. 15th for Rochester, NY was also removed some time ago.

Really? I'm so pissed the Worcester show didn't get that date.


Looks like they changed venues to a new location 2 days later;

OCT 17
Tilles Center for the Performing Arts
Greenvale, NY   
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on September 07, 2016, 10:11:43 AM
Yup. And the date on Oct. 15th for Rochester, NY was also removed some time ago.
   It looks like Durham, NC is back up for Nov 27
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: As I Am on September 07, 2016, 02:11:20 PM
It amazes me that they have scheduled so many east coast shows when NONE OF THEM are selling well at all. Looking at NJ, PA, NY........there's way more seats available than seats sold :tdwn. As a fan, I would have rather seen them hit areas that they didn't get to on the first leg and also missed for awhile and just leave the Northeast to a very few shows. I saw the show at Radio City (again, almost half empty) and while it was a really good concert and show, I have no need to see it again, so I'm passing on this leg, even though I could probably get in for $10 if I wait until the night of the show. SAD. :tdwn
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Setlist Scotty on September 07, 2016, 03:22:14 PM
It amazes me that they have scheduled so many east coast shows when NONE OF THEM are selling well at all. Looking at NJ, PA, NY........there's way more seats available than seats sold :tdwn. As a fan, I would have rather seen them hit areas that they didn't get to on the first leg and also missed for awhile and just leave the Northeast to a very few shows. I saw the show at Radio City (again, almost half empty) and while it was a really good concert and show, I have no need to see it again, so I'm passing on this leg, even though I could probably get in for $10 if I wait until the night of the show. SAD. :tdwn
I hear ya AIA, but don't forget that they wouldn't have booked those shows if the promoters hadn't given them guarantees. So if the money is there, it makes good business sense to take it. Of course, it could hurt them on the next tour when trying to book shows if many of these shows fail to bring in enough of an audience, but I digress.

As it stands, there's still plenty of holes in the current schedule to allow for many other cities to be added, that haven't already - I'd expect that there will be at least one more show added in Texas, and probably shows in Kansas City, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi and/or Arkansas during the first part of November. I also wouldn't be surprised to see shows added for San Diego, Las Vegas and Salt Lake City in the middle of November, as well as shows in Virginia or South Carolina, and more than likely two or three more in Florida. I think the only areas that will probably be skipped over will be in the northwest and mountain areas.
 
 
Yup. And the date on Oct. 15th for Rochester, NY was also removed some time ago.
Really? I'm so pissed the Worcester show didn't get that date.
Looks like they changed venues to a new location 2 days later;

OCT 17
Tilles Center for the Performing Arts
Greenvale, NY
Just looked up where Greenvale is, and it's not anywhere near Rochester, so I can't imagine that this show took the place of the Rochester show.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: As I Am on September 07, 2016, 03:30:28 PM
It amazes me that they have scheduled so many east coast shows when NONE OF THEM are selling well at all. Looking at NJ, PA, NY........there's way more seats available than seats sold :tdwn. As a fan, I would have rather seen them hit areas that they didn't get to on the first leg and also missed for awhile and just leave the Northeast to a very few shows. I saw the show at Radio City (again, almost half empty) and while it was a really good concert and show, I have no need to see it again, so I'm passing on this leg, even though I could probably get in for $10 if I wait until the night of the show. SAD. :tdwn
I hear ya AIA, but don't forget that they wouldn't have booked those shows if the promoters hadn't given them guarantees. So if the money is there, it makes good business sense to take it. Of course, it could hurt them on the next tour when trying to book shows if many of these shows fail to bring in enough of an audience, but I digress.

Actually, you don't DIGRESS because that is what has been going through my mind. Yeah sure, they'll get their guarantees NOW, but the promoters will notice the lack of attendance and that "could and probably will" hurt them in the future, no?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Setlist Scotty on September 07, 2016, 03:37:04 PM
It amazes me that they have scheduled so many east coast shows when NONE OF THEM are selling well at all. Looking at NJ, PA, NY........there's way more seats available than seats sold :tdwn. As a fan, I would have rather seen them hit areas that they didn't get to on the first leg and also missed for awhile and just leave the Northeast to a very few shows. I saw the show at Radio City (again, almost half empty) and while it was a really good concert and show, I have no need to see it again, so I'm passing on this leg, even though I could probably get in for $10 if I wait until the night of the show. SAD. :tdwn
I hear ya AIA, but don't forget that they wouldn't have booked those shows if the promoters hadn't given them guarantees. So if the money is there, it makes good business sense to take it. Of course, it could hurt them on the next tour when trying to book shows if many of these shows fail to bring in enough of an audience, but I digress.

Actually, you don't DIGRESS because that is what has been going through my mind. Yeah sure, they'll get their guarantees NOW, but the promoters will notice the lack of attendance and that "could and probably will" hurt them in the future, no?
I imagine it would. But then again, I can't imagine that DT's management and booking agents are ignorant to not think of that themselves either. It's not like these guys are new at this or simply relatives of the band booking the tours as is the case with some bands. But yeah, not sure if it's a good idea, but I'd have to think the powers-that-be know something we don't.  ???
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on September 07, 2016, 03:43:11 PM
I can't believe they have shows in Worcester/Concord/Portland. Seems a bit of overkill.

EDIT: And now Burlington?? What, no Providence?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on September 10, 2016, 06:04:11 PM
According to Dream Theater's Facebook page Jacksonville is the next city to be added...This slow drip of shows is painful...but I assume if Jacksonville is coming, South Florida will be coming.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: sylvan on September 10, 2016, 08:20:14 PM
Uggh, I might be selling my Orlando tickets then so I can see them in Jax. No need to drive 2 hours if I don't have to. Never saw this coming. I'm assuming they'll play The Florida Theater, so I can still get my front row balcony seats. I guess this is good news, so whatevs.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Setlist Scotty on September 12, 2016, 11:14:43 AM
Ha! I guessed pretty well!
Quote
I'd expect that there will be at least one more show added in Texas, and probably shows in Kansas City, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi and/or Arkansas during the first part of November. I also wouldn't be surprised to see shows added for San Diego, Las Vegas and Salt Lake City in the middle of November, as well as shows in Virginia or South Carolina, and more than likely two or three more in Florida. I think the only areas that will probably be skipped over will be in the northwest and mountain areas.

Not sure when they were added, but there's 4 more dates that have been added to the itinerary:
11/07 Kansas City, MO (Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland)
11/10 Corpus Christi, TX (Selena Auditorium)
11/18 Temecula, CA (Pechanga Resort and Casino)
11/29 Jacksonville, FL (Florida Theatre)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on September 12, 2016, 11:53:14 AM
This second leg is just one WTF after another. A whole lot of ill-advised decisions. Corpus makes no sense. It's close enough to SA to cover that base, and too far from Houston to get any of those folks. It'll actually lessen sales of the SA gig, or it would if the handful of fans hadn't already blown their money on SA tickets. They won't get more than a handful doing both gigs.  Better still, the dates for the locales are batshit crazy. The KC to Tuscon leg of this tour clocks in at 2814 miles, and it doesn't include Houston. By putting the dates in order they could have knocked that down to 1802, and that was actually factoring in a stop in Houston. How does KC to Corpus and then back to Tulsa and down to Dallas make any sense?

And this for a tour they'll be giving seats away for. I'm starting to think they've hired Max Bialystock as their tour manager.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Awaken on September 12, 2016, 11:58:49 AM
The northeast segment makes me scratch my head, as well.  PA to NH, VT, NY, MA, NJ then on to . . .  Maine . . . before heading back down to NY.  It's odd.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on September 12, 2016, 12:00:06 PM
The northeast segment makes me scratch my head, as well.  PA to NH, VT, NY, MA, NJ then on to . . .  Maine . . . before heading back down to NY.  It's odd.

Tell me about it. They forgot CT.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mosh on September 12, 2016, 12:09:40 PM
Is this shaping up to be one of their more extensive USA tours?

It's odd they aren't doing something like this with a more career spanning setlists for the cities that haven't seen DT in a long time.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on September 12, 2016, 12:17:58 PM
With all of these complaints about zig-zagging across the country, did anyone stop to think it might be because of the availability of the dates?

Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Anguyen92 on September 12, 2016, 12:20:59 PM
Apparently, on November 18th, they will hit Temecula, CA at Pechanga Resort & Casino.  I've seen a show at that casino before when I saw Slash featuring Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators.  It's an all right theater.  All right crowd, although maybe a bit too casual crowd that's just there to hear the GNR hits and nothing more.  I'll be intrigued of the crowd reaction that's going to see DT play The Astonishing.

Two shows in SoCal coming up.  I didn't see their shows in LA due to being busy with school, but I wouldn't mind seeing them in Anaheim or Temecula if the financial opportunity presents themselves.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on September 12, 2016, 12:40:29 PM
With all of these complaints about zig-zagging across the country, did anyone stop to think it might be because of the availability of the dates?
Of course. You have to allow for some wasted travel. At the same time, starting a tour from scratch you should be able to organize things with some semblance of sanity. I'm not seeing much of that here.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on September 12, 2016, 12:44:03 PM
Apparently, on November 18th, they will hit Temecula, CA at Pechanga Resort & Casino.  I've seen a show at that casino before when I saw Slash featuring Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators.  It's an all right theater.  All right crowd, although maybe a bit too casual crowd that's just there to hear the GNR hits and nothing more.  I'll be intrigued of the crowd reaction that's going to see DT play The Astonishing.

Two shows in SoCal coming up.  I didn't see their shows in LA due to being busy with school, but I wouldn't mind seeing them in Anaheim or Temecula if the financial opportunity presents themselves.
Now that's a really interesting point. I wouldn't call the audience at Pechanga "maybe a bit too casual," myself. I think I'd go with "shitfaced and highly raucous." They could make the show a real hoot, though not in the manner people might hope for.  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on September 12, 2016, 12:48:01 PM
With all of these complaints about zig-zagging across the country, did anyone stop to think it might be because of the availability of the dates?
Of course. You have to allow for some wasted travel. At the same time, starting a tour from scratch you should be able to organize things with some semblance of sanity. I'm not seeing much of that here.

Might be the most bizarrely communicated tour I've ever seen. Perhaps they tried to give the fans a reason to check back everyday, kind of a new announcement daily. But like others have mentioned, the staggering of on sales amongst close cities is strange.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Awaken on September 12, 2016, 12:56:34 PM
With all of these complaints about zig-zagging across the country, did anyone stop to think it might be because of the availability of the dates?
Of course. You have to allow for some wasted travel. At the same time, starting a tour from scratch you should be able to organize things with some semblance of sanity. I'm not seeing much of that here.

Agreed - it's certainly not a complaint from me at all, just an odd way to work it that's all
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Setlist Scotty on September 12, 2016, 01:28:50 PM
This second leg is just one WTF after another. A whole lot of ill-advised decisions. Corpus makes no sense. It's close enough to SA to cover that base, and too far from Houston to get any of those folks. It'll actually lessen sales of the SA gig, or it would if the handful of fans hadn't already blown their money on SA tickets. They won't get more than a handful doing both gigs.  Better still, the dates for the locales are batshit crazy. The KC to Tuscon leg of this tour clocks in at 2814 miles, and it doesn't include Houston. By putting the dates in order they could have knocked that down to 1802, and that was actually factoring in a stop in Houston. How does KC to Corpus and then back to Tulsa and down to Dallas make any sense?
The northeast segment makes me scratch my head, as well.  PA to NH, VT, NY, MA, NJ then on to . . .  Maine . . . before heading back down to NY.  It's odd.

As ProgSnob said, it probably has to do with venue availability. Even if you look at the tourdates for previous tours, you would see some odd routing of the tours where the band is zigzagging back and forth. And that's not just DT. I remember catching Rush on the Vapor Trails tour. I saw them in LA, then San Diego, then Phoenix, then....Irvine (which is between LA and San Diego). In any case, management wouldn't agree to this routing if it was going to be too costly. Certainly in the NE it's not that big of a deal to zigzag, given the close proximity to many of the cities.

As for why they booked Corpus Christi instead of Houston - good question. But maybe it was because there weren't any promoters/venues in Houston willing to book the show within the window of time given. And at least the show is in Corpus Christi as opposed to Austin, which is closer to SA and not that far away from D/FW.
 
 
Is this shaping up to be one of their more extensive USA tours?

It's odd they aren't doing something like this with a more career spanning setlists for the cities that haven't seen DT in a long time.
Definitely the most extensive run they've done through North America in quite a few years - probably at least the M2000 if not before. They always seemed to stick with the maximum of 5 weeks on the road at one time. Perhaps now that most of their kids are high school/college age, they're finally lifting that restriction.
 
 
Might be the most bizarrely communicated tour I've ever seen. Perhaps they tried to give the fans a reason to check back everyday, kind of a new announcement daily. But like others have mentioned, the staggering of on sales amongst close cities is strange.
I don't know if I'd say that Tim. I mean, it does seem a bit strange in comparison to how DT's announced tourdates for years, but back in the day, the trickling in of tourdates was a normal thing, and this resembles that. Why are they going this route as opposed to having everything lined up ahead of time and just announcing them all at once is a mystery, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is as you suggested - giving fans a reason to check back on a regular basis.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on September 12, 2016, 01:46:09 PM
As for why they booked Corpus Christi instead of Houston - good question. But maybe it was because there weren't any promoters/venues in Houston willing to book the show within the window of time given. And at least the show is in Corpus Christi as opposed to Austin, which is closer to SA and not that far away from D/FW.
 
The thing is, Corpus isn't an alternative to Houston (or anything else, for that matter). It's essentially a standalone destination out in the middle of nowhere, and they're going out of their way to play there. Again, I can't claim to understand all of the intricacies of putting together a tour, but I think I am qualified to surmise when something was organized by a monkey strung out on tequila and meth. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on September 12, 2016, 01:52:27 PM
...strung out on tequila and meth. 
Would that even work?  I mean, hypothetically speaking.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on September 12, 2016, 02:09:34 PM
...strung out on tequila and meth. 
Would that even work?  I mean, hypothetically speaking.
Sure. Not sure why it'd be questionable. Strung out doesn't imply that either was taken to excess. Just over a relatively long duration. Also, speedfreaks can drink pretty hard. Just a matter of maintaining a balance between the two.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on September 12, 2016, 02:25:14 PM
...strung out on tequila and meth. 
Would that even work?  I mean, hypothetically speaking.
Sure. Not sure why it'd be questionable. Strung out doesn't imply that either was taken to excess. Just over a relatively long duration. Also, speedfreaks can drink pretty hard. Just a matter of maintaining a balance between the two.

Apparently NOT hypothetically speaking! :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on September 12, 2016, 02:27:24 PM
This slow drip of shows doesn't really give a lot of time between tickets sales and the show. Two and a half months is ample I guess. I just hope that South Florida can be added soon. I've been waiting on buying tickets to Orlando because I am expecting a show down here. I hope they finalize their tour one way or another.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on September 13, 2016, 05:44:05 AM
With all of these complaints about zig-zagging across the country, did anyone stop to think it might be because of the availability of the dates?
Of course. You have to allow for some wasted travel. At the same time, starting a tour from scratch you should be able to organize things with some semblance of sanity. I'm not seeing much of that here.

Like you said, what goes into organizing a tour involves monkeys on meth, and unless you have experience with that, it's probably beyond you or any of us.  ;)

Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 14, 2016, 12:34:15 AM
This is making me nervous. It's looking plausible they'll hit up NM.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on September 14, 2016, 08:21:09 AM
There doesn't look to be any dates available when they pass through NM. At the same time, maybe they'll swing down there between their Vermont and NY gigs.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Nick on September 14, 2016, 08:42:19 AM
Chalk it up to a combination of saturation on this tour, and my area sucking for decent music, but take a look at what you could grab for Dream Theater a month out from the show:

https://www.ticketmaster.com/dream-theater-presents-the-astonishing-live-bethlehem-pennsylvania-10-05-2016/event/020050FCA6B06344

It's been like this for awhile now. At pretty much any point over the past month I could have decided to buy 3rd-6th row tickets at face value. I have a suspicion I won't be seeing Dream Theater coming back here.

Edit: On the saturation thing, I've always been fortunate with DT in the northeast, but my god, within a two hour drive of me I could hit *5* shows, 6 if you tack on another half hour. And to think there was a time I might do most of them. Now I'm only going to 1 show because I have a front row ticket.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on September 14, 2016, 08:57:03 AM
Chalk it up to a combination of saturation on this tour, and my area sucking for decent music, but take a look at what you could grab for Dream Theater a month out from the show:

https://www.ticketmaster.com/dream-theater-presents-the-astonishing-live-bethlehem-pennsylvania-10-05-2016/event/020050FCA6B06344

It's been like this for awhile now. At pretty much any point over the past month I could have decided to buy 3rd-6th row tickets at face value. I have a suspicion I won't be seeing Dream Theater coming back here.
Yeah, it's like that everywhere. I saw front row yesterday or the day before for one of those gigs up North. And that's not even including the seats they're still holding on to. Even Southern states are selling poorly. Certainly saturation has something to do with it, but the format doesn't help their cause, either.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on September 14, 2016, 10:47:44 AM
I just spent my lunch break going through every section of the Port Chester NY show's venue. 615 tickets have been sold out of the 1800 available.

Some of the seats that were shown as already purchased made no sense though. There were so many better seats for the same price, I can't imagine someone not choosing them if given the choice.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on September 14, 2016, 10:55:09 AM
I just spent my lunch break going through every section of the Port Chester NY show's venue. 615 tickets have been sold out of the 1800 available.

Some of the seats that were shown as already purchased made no sense though. There were so many better seats for the same price, I can't imagine someone not choosing them if given the choice.

I was looking the other day at the Worcester MA show, and I'm pretty sure there were under 10 sold in the balcony. No doubt those people will be bumped up a section. I'm just glad I was able to grab a front row ticket, otherwise I'd be pissed paying the prices they're selling tickets for. That has to be part of the reason for them not selling very well. Can't imagine paying $75 for a seat in the back of the theater, the same price for a front row ticket. Makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on September 14, 2016, 10:59:42 AM
I just spent my lunch break going through every section of the Port Chester NY show's venue. 615 tickets have been sold out of the 1800 available.

Some of the seats that were shown as already purchased made no sense though. There were so many better seats for the same price, I can't imagine someone not choosing them if given the choice.
You got two things working there. One is that people who jumped on the presale might have bought the best available tickets at the time, which are never the best tickets. Three days later they went on sale to the general public and people were buying tickets in front of the presale folk. Happens all the time. The bigger culprit is tickets held back by the band, the promoters, the venue, the local radio stations, etc. A hundred of those seat that show as sold are sitting in will call waiting to be given away.


I was looking the other day at the Worcester MA show, and I'm pretty sure there were under 10 sold in the balcony. No doubt those people will be bumped up a section. I'm just glad I was able to grab a front row ticket, otherwise I'd be pissed paying the prices they're selling tickets for. That has to be part of the reason for them not selling very well. Can't imagine paying $75 for a seat in the back of the theater, the same price for a front row ticket. Makes no sense to me.
I initially suggested that people buy the balcony seats for that very reason. Cheapest seats at face, and you'll get moved down into the good seats. I then backtracked off of that in favor of buying $12 seats on Stub Hub.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: greyghost on September 14, 2016, 08:20:10 PM
I'm going to be hitting up the Capitol Theatre show in NY. Do I want VIP Platform seats, or do I want front row balcony?
I'm hitting that one--I got front row balcony! (20 bucks cheaper than the Worcester show, which is closer to me, but that one's on a Tuesday--Saturday works much better).
I'm excited for this one partly because I had open-heart surgery right before the Radio City show, so I had to miss this show on the earlier leg.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on September 15, 2016, 08:29:19 AM
I went to the RCMH show and thought it wasn't as good as the CT show. I've seen them in CT 7 times including the Astonishing tour, and I think it was their best performance there to date. Where are your seats at the Port Chester show?

I'm sitting in;
SEC Balcony Center A-F   ROW A   SEAT 111
SEC Balcony Center A-F   ROW A   SEAT 112

I'm hoping the view is good. I'm not sure if that Loge section will be directly in front of us or if it will feel as though we're truly in the front row of the balcony. It's a small venue, only 1800 people, so I'm sure it'll be fine either way.

*edit*

Damn. Looks like the front row of the balcony isn't actually the front row of the balcony. I think 'front row' means first row behind that rail. Lame.

(https://www.brooklynvegan.com/files/img/cl/wilco/capitol/Wilco-44.jpg)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on September 15, 2016, 08:40:20 AM
The CT show kicked the hell out of RCMH. Sound was better. Venue was better. Performance was better.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on September 15, 2016, 09:01:15 AM
The CT show kicked the hell out of RCMH. Sound was better. Venue was better. Performance was better.

I've been to a lot of concerts around New England, and the Oakdale is hands down my favorite place to see a concert. The sound in that venue is perfect.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on September 15, 2016, 10:34:25 AM
Are they hitting CT between South America and Australia?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on September 15, 2016, 10:36:06 AM
Hopefully
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: greyghost on September 15, 2016, 12:55:10 PM
I went to the RCMH show and thought it wasn't as good as the CT show. I've seen them in CT 7 times including the Astonishing tour, and I think it was their best performance there to date. Where are your seats at the Port Chester show?

I'm sitting in;
SEC Balcony Center A-F   ROW A   SEAT 111
SEC Balcony Center A-F   ROW A   SEAT 112

I'm hoping the view is good. I'm not sure if that Loge section will be directly in front of us or if it will feel as though we're truly in the front row of the balcony. It's a small venue, only 1800 people, so I'm sure it'll be fine either way.

*edit*

Damn. Looks like the front row of the balcony isn't actually the front row of the balcony. I think 'front row' means first row behind that rail. Lame.

(https://www.brooklynvegan.com/files/img/cl/wilco/capitol/Wilco-44.jpg)

I've got balcony right center, seats 14 and 16.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: kaos2900 on September 16, 2016, 06:26:52 PM
Just got my tickets to the KC show. Had a shot at 3rd row but didn't want to spend the money. Ended going cheap and getting 1st row of the balcony. Can't wait!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: chrisbDTM on September 17, 2016, 07:30:54 AM
The CT show kicked the hell out of RCMH. Sound was better. Venue was better. Performance was better.

I've been to a lot of concerts around New England, and the Oakdale is hands down my favorite place to see a concert. The sound in that venue is perfect.

The sound was good but that CT show has discouraged me from seeing them anytime soon. I think my DT fanboyism has faded. In the past I would have jumped at opportunities to see them on the second leg of a tour. But definitely not this tour
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Shadow2222 on September 17, 2016, 06:44:34 PM
Looks like they'll be in Columbus, OH on November 5:

https://m.ticketmaster.com/dream-theater-columbus-ohio-11-05-2016/event/0500512EFAD05146 (https://m.ticketmaster.com/dream-theater-columbus-ohio-11-05-2016/event/0500512EFAD05146)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on September 18, 2016, 12:24:39 AM
According to their latest Facebook post, another Florida date is coming. My guess: Thursday Dec 1 at the Fillmore on Miami Beach or Pompano Beach Amphitheater for a hopefully cool (temp-wise) night outdoors. It's very possible they could prolong the agony with a St. Pete. show announcement and then another announcement later for Southeast Florida. We'll see.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Dream Team on September 18, 2016, 08:17:13 PM
I can't believe after all these years they are finally playing in Vermont! Tickets have been purchased.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on September 19, 2016, 09:02:16 AM
It turns out my second thought was right. They ARE stringing Miami and South Florida along with giving Clearwater, Fl. a date: Dec 1. Three northern dates and none so far in South Florida...onward with the Chinese water torture. Actually, I think the drip is over. It is extremely doubtful that they will play South Florida on Nov 30 or Dec 3rd as that would mean playing each day of the week for almost the whole week. Not likely. At least the Orlando and Clearwater shows are on my days off. I guess I'll drive up to see the Salvador Dali museum in St. Pete and catch their show there.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Setlist Scotty on September 19, 2016, 01:35:33 PM
Well, you can't necessarily get everything, bh! Bummer that it's almost certain that they're not coming to southern Florida, but you still got 3 dates in your state nonetheless. Beggars can't be choosers, at least this time. Once they've played northern/central FL on several tours, then you can start banging the drum for them to hit southern FL!  ;)

Anyhoo, there are some noticeable holes in the schedule, so I'm curious to see what cities they'll choose to fill them with, if at all. DT.net shows the Rochester show on the 15th canceled, which means there's no shows the 13-16, but now that this is less than a month away, I can't imagine them announcing any new shows on such short notice. There's also nothing scheduled for Nov. 2-4 (or 5th, since DT.net doesn't list the Columbus date), so I'm wondering what they might try to schedule there - perhaps a show in Iowa, Rochester MN, or maybe hit Chicago and/or the twin cities again? Then there's the 21-27 - I'd still imagine they'll schedule a show in Salt Lake City, maybe Vegas and/or Albuquerque, and probably a show in TN and/or VA as they make their way back to the east coast. I guess time will tell, altho the clock's ticking!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 19, 2016, 01:46:27 PM
Kinda getting less likely for Albq. I don't mind. Will most likely head to Arizona.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on September 19, 2016, 03:18:18 PM
Well, you can't necessarily get everything, bh! Bummer that it's almost certain that they're not coming to southern Florida, but you still got 3 dates in your state nonetheless. Beggars can't be choosers, at least this time. Once they've played northern/central FL on several tours, then you can start banging the drum for them to hit southern FL!  ;)

Anyhoo, there are some noticeable holes in the schedule, so I'm curious to see what cities they'll choose to fill them with, if at all. DT.net shows the Rochester show on the 15th canceled, which means there's no shows the 13-16, but now that this is less than a month away, I can't imagine them announcing any new shows on such short notice. There's also nothing scheduled for Nov. 2-4 (or 5th, since DT.net doesn't list the Columbus date), so I'm wondering what they might try to schedule there - perhaps a show in Iowa, Rochester MN, or maybe hit Chicago and/or the twin cities again? Then there's the 21-27 - I'd still imagine they'll schedule a show in Salt Lake City, maybe Vegas and/or Albuquerque, and probably a show in TN and/or VA as they make their way back to the east coast. I guess time will tell, altho the clock's ticking!
But Jacksonville or Clearwater over Miami/Ft. Lauderdale??? Really??? Three shows within 2 hours of each other. If I want to drive to Tampa or Orlando, it's five hours each way plus a hotel room or close to $250 for the effort plus the time driving. Up north, one can literally drive between all three shows and be back home to sleep. Beggars can ask for a more reasonable schedule encompassing a larger geographical area of the state rather than three shows in an over-saturated geographical area. I'm still debating driving up to Clearwater and it may just be a spur of the moment decision as I cannot at this time justify the expense for this specific tour of an album I'm not so sanguine about. If it was a true Evening with...show drawing from multiple albums, traveling would be a no-brainer. This album, not so much. Enjoy Jacksonville.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Setlist Scotty on September 19, 2016, 03:47:55 PM
Well again, at least you finally got your wish - them doing Evening With shows in Florida. Not the perfect scenario, but far better than anything since 2011, no?

As for enjoying Jacksonville, not sure if you thought I lived in the area or am planning to attend that show, but the answer's no. These days, the closest city to me that *may* get DT is just over 1000 miles away, so if I want to see them, I gotta travel quite some distance to do so - probably at least as much as you, if not more.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on September 19, 2016, 04:05:14 PM
No, I wasn't assuming anything about where you live. It was an admittedly passive aggressive dig at that great bastion of metal fans: Jacksonville. It will still be five years since they've played South Florida, and after this tour, will run to seven years, Yes? It will now be at least seven years before South Florida gets a chance at an Evening with show. Driving to North Florida from South Miami-Dade County might as well be a state away for me as the time expended, the cost and the drive are all very significant. Their Florida tour is about as tone deaf and ludicrous geographically as a tour can be. South Florida fans on Facebook are not happy.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Setlist Scotty on September 19, 2016, 04:17:41 PM
•sigh* I guess it just means you're not gonna be happy unless they're playing in your backyard. So be it. But after the big stink that you raised about them playing in the south and especially Florida (and not specifically southern Florida I might add), I would've imagined you at least be grateful for what exists, instead of grumbling about what likely will not. At least you have shows in Florida, and contrary to what you're saying (unless the Google map I was looking at is skewed), neither Orlando nor Clearwater are in northern Florida - looks like central Florida to me. I might be more willing to see your side of things if the 3 shows booked were in Pensacola, Tallahassee and Jacksonville. Is it down the street from your house or even within a hour's drive? No. But at least it's a lot closer than most other DT tours.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on September 19, 2016, 04:29:57 PM
Am I glad Dream Theater is finally playing the South with the Evening with...show? Reasonably. I would have preferred more than one album, but it's a start toward future Evening with...shows in the South. Am I happy Florida got three dates. YES. Am I disappointed South Florida isn't one of those dates? YES, Extremely disappointed. Do I have the money and the time for a road trip? I have the time (Thursday and Friday off), but, I don't have the money. Might that change?? We'll see. Lot's of bills at this time. It is what it is. For those getting to see them, by all means, Enjoy!!!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: axeman90210 on September 23, 2016, 08:21:20 AM
Ticket for Newark purchased, 5th row pretty much dead center :hat
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on September 23, 2016, 08:33:43 AM
Ticket for Newark purchased, 5th row pretty much dead center :hat

Yea I looked yesterday at the tickets and the place is still mostly unsold.  I personally am still deciding if I even want to go.  If the place is empty its going to be depressing. Also I have a looming business trip so buying my ticket if I do go and can go will likely be the day of the event. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: axeman90210 on September 23, 2016, 09:27:24 AM
Ticket for Newark purchased, 5th row pretty much dead center :hat

Yea I looked yesterday at the tickets and the place is still mostly unsold.  I personally am still deciding if I even want to go.  If the place is empty its going to be depressing. Also I have a looming business trip so buying my ticket if I do go and can go will likely be the day of the event. 

Alrighty, well let me know if you do end up going and we can grab a beer or something.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on September 23, 2016, 09:32:30 AM
Ticket for Newark purchased, 5th row pretty much dead center :hat

Yea I looked yesterday at the tickets and the place is still mostly unsold.  I personally am still deciding if I even want to go.  If the place is empty its going to be depressing. Also I have a looming business trip so buying my ticket if I do go and can go will likely be the day of the event. 

Alrighty, well let me know if you do end up going and we can grab a beer or something.

Yea, I'll let you know.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on September 26, 2016, 09:05:43 AM
Wait,we're calling this an "evening with" show? I suppose it's factually correct, but it completely waters down the significance of what have been the true evening with shows in the past. It's always been about 3 hour sets covering a wide range of music. In this context it's simply about them having no opening act.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Victimlas on September 27, 2016, 01:14:09 PM
Also thought we would get a South Florida show, but seriously can't complain. Orlando here we come! I'll take a few hours trip over the expense of flying out to other States. Bands are increasingly shunning Florida,  so 3 dates in the State is pretty awesome in my book.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: Major Thirteenth on September 27, 2016, 11:07:50 PM
The official Tour page was updated with that date only for now. Looking forward to seeing what other dates are announced.

Get your butts in gear and buy tickets. If you don't there will be cancellations. You've been warned. Especially you Long Island types at the moment.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on September 29, 2016, 07:40:15 AM
Even though this will be my third time seeing this show, I'm so pumped for the 22nd. The venue looks killer. I've never seen DT in such a small place.
Title: Re: New DT Tour date
Post by: Dream Team on September 29, 2016, 03:12:09 PM
The official Tour page was updated with that date only for now. Looking forward to seeing what other dates are announced.

Get your butts in gear and buy tickets. If you don't there will be cancellations. You've been warned. Especially you Long Island types at the moment.

Yikes. I hope this doesn't mean the Vermont show will end up being cancelled, it's the first time they've come to my state.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 29, 2016, 03:18:40 PM
Second NC show(!) - Ovens Auditorium in Charlotte, November 28th.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: axeman90210 on September 29, 2016, 08:19:57 PM
Going to double dip hef?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bluehaze on October 02, 2016, 05:18:29 PM
It turns out that a road trip for me is not in the cards. I'm closing on the sale of my townhouse in Homestead on Nov. 30 and on the house I am purchasing in Cutler Bay on Dec 2 so there is no time (or money) for a road trip north to Orlando or Clearwater. For those going, enjoy...hoping hurricane Matthew doesn't cause a cancellation of the Anderson, Rabin and Wakeman show at the Hard Rock Casino Hollywood, Fl.  on Oct 6 this Thursday.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 04, 2016, 08:48:13 AM
Going to double dip hef?
Nope.  I will stay with the Durham show.

If it was a real, full, evening with tour, I probably would double dip.

BTW, my oldest daughter hasn't heard one second of The Astonishing.  She wants to go in cold.  That's an interesting approach.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on October 04, 2016, 08:57:58 AM
Going to double dip hef?
Nope.  I will stay with the Durham show.

If it was a real, full, evening with tour, I probably would double dip.

BTW, my oldest daughter hasn't heard one second of The Astonishing.  She wants to go in cold.  That's an interesting approach.

That's what I did with Avatar and look how that worked out!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 04, 2016, 09:29:08 AM
Oh fuck no
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on October 04, 2016, 09:41:43 AM
I have feelings, Hef, and you just hurt them.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 06, 2016, 09:29:48 AM
I have feelings, Hef, and you just hurt them.
:heart
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: As I Am on October 06, 2016, 10:02:46 AM
Just heard that there were less than 300 (yes, that's HUNDRED) people at the Sands Bethlehem show last night! This band needs a hiatus for sure....hmmm, seem to remember someone saying that about 6 years ago! ;)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Dream Team on October 06, 2016, 11:28:35 AM
Just heard that there were less than 300 (yes, that's HUNDRED) people at the Sands Bethlehem show last night! This band needs a hiatus for sure....hmmm, seem to remember someone saying that about 6 years ago! ;)

It's not because of over-exposure, it's that hardly anyone wants to attend TA again.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 06, 2016, 11:31:26 AM
Just heard that there were less than 300 (yes, that's HUNDRED) people at the Sands Bethlehem show last night! This band needs a hiatus for sure....hmmm, seem to remember someone saying that about 6 years ago! ;)

It's not because of over-exposure, it's that hardly anyone wants to attend TA again.

Agreed.  If anything they need to make another album not take a break.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on October 06, 2016, 11:39:44 AM
They really should just tack two or three songs onto the end of the setlist. Shit, just play A Change of Seasons as an encore.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on October 06, 2016, 11:53:02 AM
Just heard that there were less than 300 (yes, that's HUNDRED) people at the Sands Bethlehem show last night! This band needs a hiatus for sure....hmmm, seem to remember someone saying that about 6 years ago! ;)

Not saying you're wrong, but I asked in a thread created by someone on Reddit who attended the show;

"How filled was the venue? I've read that there were less than 300 people there. Is that true?"

and the reply I got was;

"Not at all. I believe it was 3/4ths full. That may be a liberal guestimation, but it was a very good crowd size"
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Nick on October 06, 2016, 01:18:25 PM
I was there, and there was no way the place was anywhere near 3/4ths full. If it was half full I'd be surprised, frankly. Probably over 300 though, I'd say maybe 600-800.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: As I Am on October 06, 2016, 04:09:01 PM
Nick, that's better to hear, I mean 600-800 is NOT good, but a helluva lot better than less than 300.

The Astonishing thing is the band took it out again in North America. :facepalm:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on October 07, 2016, 11:25:11 PM
Just poked around some of the ticket sales for the shows in the South, and, well, with the exception of Orlando, it's not looking too good.  Thought NC and others would have a better reaction.

DT's facebook account is pushing this leg super hard.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Shadow2222 on October 08, 2016, 11:10:14 AM
Just poked around some of the ticket sales for the shows in the South, and, well, with the exception of Orlando, it's not looking too good.  Thought NC and others would have a better reaction.

DT's facebook account is pushing this leg super hard.

It seems like most shows aren't selling that well sadly. I think they will do some significant ticket discounting as the dates near, unless they plan on cancelling a few (which won't look good).

I don't remember DT shows selling this poorly since certain dates of Progressive Nation 2008.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on October 11, 2016, 12:11:52 PM
Most of the tickets in Temecula, CA have sold, which is cool. 

The fans are not coming in droves to support this album in the second cycle cities, which is too bad, because in the next round DT will be touring with a more diverse setlist and those Southern cities will get skipped again because of this current turn out. 

If fans want the better setlists to come to their city in the future, then they gotta show support for the albums cycles that don't excite them as much.  It's worth the investment.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on October 11, 2016, 12:25:47 PM
Most of the tickets in Temecula, CA have sold, which is cool. 

The fans are not coming in droves to support this album in the second cycle cities, which is too bad, because in the next round DT will be touring with a more diverse setlist and those Southern cities will get skipped again because of this current turn out. 

If fans want the better setlists to come to their city in the future, then they gotta show support for the albums cycles that don't excite them as much.  It's worth the investment.
That might be the reality, but it's not a fair way to look at it. I see this as a mistake on DT's part, and the end result will be exactly what you say and we'll get the blame. The promoters will be reticent to book them down here again, and based on what I've seen there's no way JP looks at this as a mistake on their part. In 2 years he's going to tell somebody who asks "well last time we toured down there nobody came out." If Metallica toured Lulu and sales were understandably poor, I don't think they'd hold that against the fans when it came time to tour for Bound to Explode or whatever their latest album is.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on October 11, 2016, 12:37:16 PM
Most of the tickets in Temecula, CA have sold, which is cool. 

The fans are not coming in droves to support this album in the second cycle cities, which is too bad, because in the next round DT will be touring with a more diverse setlist and those Southern cities will get skipped again because of this current turn out. 

If fans want the better setlists to come to their city in the future, then they gotta show support for the albums cycles that don't excite them as much.  It's worth the investment.
That might be the reality, but it's not a fair way to look at it. I see this as a mistake on DT's part, and the end result will be exactly what you say and we'll get the blame. The promoters will be reticent to book them down here again, and based on what I've seen there's no way JP looks at this as a mistake on their part. In 2 years he's going to tell somebody who asks "well last time we toured down there nobody came out." If Metallica toured Lulu and sales were understandably poor, I don't think they'd hold that against the fans when it came time to tour for Bound to Explode or whatever their latest album is.

Idk.. All DT has to do is read the comment section on literally any post they make in regards to this tour. The same complaints  keep coming up;

1) A lot of fans genuinely hate this album
2) A lot of fans liked it enough to see the show the first time they came around, but not the second
3) People want to see a rock concert and have fun. Not sit with their arms folded.
4) People really want to take pictures/video and can't
5) They selected venues that don't allow drinks in the seats.
6) Security escorts you out if they see your phone or if you're being too animated. This isn't a broadway show.
7) Many of the people that don't want to see it a second time, or haven't gone period, would likely go if there was 30-45 minutes of non-astonishing stuff at the end of the show.

Dream Theater can't rectify all of those things, but they could make good on a lot of them.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 11, 2016, 12:49:49 PM
That list, while true (although I recall bringing a drink to my seat at RCMH), is depressing. 

Telling security to chill out would be #1 followed by adding a real encore for me.

Comparatively, Opeth just played at RCMH and there's plenty of youtube videos plus people standing.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on October 11, 2016, 12:54:01 PM
A lot of these are criticisms he's seen in the past, and deflected.

And add to the list the reason I might not even bother seeing them in Dallas. There will not be a single note different than what I saw twice already. Unless one of them screws up there will be no variance whatsoever. Which ironically means that if I did go it would be in the hopes that one of them starts playing the wrong song or JLB forgets the lyrics.  :lol

Seriously, I'd be happy to spend $10 on a ticket that will likely get me moved up pretty close to the stage. Spending $20 to park might be enough to warrant just listening to the album at home.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 11, 2016, 01:06:22 PM
What would motivate me more to go to the NJ show was if there was a DTF meet up, that was a ton of fun last time.  The attendance is so poor there isn't even a show thread on this site  :lol

Although, I've thought about it a lot lately, I am almost 100% sure I will go, just because I feel like I should support one of my favorite bands and that TA is actually pretty damn good from my perspective, I'm just not all that excited to go like I typically am.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on October 11, 2016, 02:52:19 PM
Things are getting desperate!

https://bravewords.com/news/dream-theater-bassist-john-myung-invites-fans-to-the-astonishing-fall-tour-video


Not sure I can bring myself to watch it.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Podaar on October 11, 2016, 04:40:58 PM
Not sure I can bring myself to watch it.

 :lol

Why not?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Thoughtspart3 on October 11, 2016, 07:54:34 PM
I really enjoyed the concert.  JP's solo was just epic live.  Everyone got to their feet and was cheering.  I know this is not what everyone wanted but I wish more people could enjoy it for what it is and still support the band by going to at least one show.

DT may have over did it this tour but I don't get why there is so much criticism.  I for one was happy that they played in Wilkes Barre which they have never done before.  It gave me a chance to see TA which is a once in a lifetime opportunity.

Does DT have to sell out every venue to make a profit?  They might still be making a profit even though they don't sell out.  My guess is that they put more money into the production than normal and want to take advantage of it while they have everything in place.  They will never do this again so they are trying to play as many venues as possible and give as many people an opportunity to see it.

I can sympathize though with adding some classic songs as an encore.  It would probably help repeat attendance.  Also, the lack of improvisation also reduces repeat viewings.  My guess is they will realize this and take that into consideration if they decide to do another concept album. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: JayOctavarium on October 12, 2016, 01:51:52 AM
If DT were playing a venue closer to my house on this second time round, I would  be more inclined to go. I really don't wanna make a trip out of it to see them. What would be awesome would to see them play at the Majestic Ventura Theater here... seats about 1k people.. I'd be there in a heartbeat. But Temecula? Nah. Saw it once. I'm good.

Bring on the next album!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ytserush on October 12, 2016, 03:59:41 PM
I was there, and there was no way the place was anywhere near 3/4ths full. If it was half full I'd be surprised, frankly. Probably over 300 though, I'd say maybe 600-800.

Where were you sitting? I'm surprised I didn't see you. It wasn't THAT crowded.  Will I see you at the Marillion show?

 For some reason a lot of people bought seats on the outside rather than the middle which may explain the conflicting head counts. There were definitely a lot more people there than the seating chart said there were a few days before.

Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on October 13, 2016, 12:11:10 AM
If DT were playing a venue closer to my house on this second time round, I would  be more inclined to go.

Anaheim?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Nick on October 14, 2016, 11:28:45 AM
I was there, and there was no way the place was anywhere near 3/4ths full. If it was half full I'd be surprised, frankly. Probably over 300 though, I'd say maybe 600-800.

Where were you sitting? I'm surprised I didn't see you. It wasn't THAT crowded.  Will I see you at the Marillion show?

 For some reason a lot of people bought seats on the outside rather than the middle which may explain the conflicting head counts. There were definitely a lot more people there than the seating chart said there were a few days before.



Front row, left wing. Was actually there with Karl and Greg from Pinnacle.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: JayOctavarium on October 14, 2016, 01:56:17 PM
If DT were playing a venue closer to my house on this second time round, I would  be more inclined to go.

Anaheim?

By closer I mean less than an hour. Anaheim is still a 2 hour drive or more depending on traffic.

As much as I love the Grove and Dream Theater.... I don't love The Astonishing enough to make the drive.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ytserush on October 15, 2016, 10:38:42 AM
I was there, and there was no way the place was anywhere near 3/4ths full. If it was half full I'd be surprised, frankly. Probably over 300 though, I'd say maybe 600-800.

Where were you sitting? I'm surprised I didn't see you. It wasn't THAT crowded.  Will I see you at the Marillion show?

 For some reason a lot of people bought seats on the outside rather than the middle which may explain the conflicting head counts. There were definitely a lot more people there than the seating chart said there were a few days before.



Front row, left wing. Was actually there with Karl and Greg from Pinnacle.

Karl and Greg too?  Damn!  Blew that one big time. Poor planning. Any live Pinnacle gigs planned?

I was supposed to be in Row 21 but a friend and his son said there were a few extra seats in Row 9 center so we ended up watching it from there most of the night.

You going to Marillion?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 18, 2016, 03:16:49 PM
Anyone going to the NJ show tomorrow?

Show doesn't look as empty as it did a month ago on ticketmaster.  Still haven't bought a ticket, but some of the tickets on stubhub are below face value so might pick one up there or maybe just a cheap ticket in the back where hopefully I won't be bothered by security.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on October 19, 2016, 06:39:12 AM
Saw the Worcester show last night in the front row. It was awesome! The band sounded tight, James sounded incredible. I think I heard the total number of tickets sold was about 750, and because of the fact I was in front, it really seemed like an intimate performance.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on October 19, 2016, 11:21:21 AM
Anyone going to the NJ show tomorrow?

Show doesn't look as empty as it did a month ago on ticketmaster.  Still haven't bought a ticket, but some of the tickets on stubhub are below face value so might pick one up there or maybe just a cheap ticket in the back where hopefully I won't be bothered by security.

Dude on FB by the name of "Joe Digsby" just posted to the DT FB page "FREE TICKET for tonight at newark jn. message me please"
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cfmoran13 on October 19, 2016, 01:22:04 PM
Anyone going to the NJ show tomorrow?

Show doesn't look as empty as it did a month ago on ticketmaster.  Still haven't bought a ticket, but some of the tickets on stubhub are below face value so might pick one up there or maybe just a cheap ticket in the back where hopefully I won't be bothered by security.
My wife and I are going tonight to see them for the first time since ATDoE.  Looking forward to it.  Been giving The Astonishing a few more listens lately.  I'm liking it more than when it came out.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 19, 2016, 01:26:45 PM
Hm, thought I responded to this thread an hour ago, but Im pretty much losing my mind at the moment and axeman can verify that as I sent him a random text message too lol

But I snagged a front row ticket for tonight on ticketmaster.  I had the page loaded and constantly refreshing all day to see if any good seats opened up and one seat in the front row center became available and I immediately bought it.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on October 19, 2016, 01:31:54 PM
Hm, thought I responded to this thread an hour ago, but Im pretty much losing my mind at the moment and axeman can verify that as I sent him a random text message too lol

But I snagged a front row ticket for tonight on ticketmaster.  I had the page loaded and constantly refreshing all day to see if any good seats opened up and one seat in the front row center became available and I immediately bought it.
Really easy to do with DT. If it's not something that'll be in high demand, that is.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 19, 2016, 01:41:23 PM
Hm, thought I responded to this thread an hour ago, but Im pretty much losing my mind at the moment and axeman can verify that as I sent him a random text message too lol

But I snagged a front row ticket for tonight on ticketmaster.  I had the page loaded and constantly refreshing all day to see if any good seats opened up and one seat in the front row center became available and I immediately bought it.
Really easy to do with DT. If it's not something that'll be in high demand, that is.

Yup, that's what I was waiting for, but I was also totally willing to buy the cheapest ticket as well so that's the risk I was willing to take.  That's not always the case though for me.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 19, 2016, 02:17:52 PM
And upon checking again out of curiosity some more good seats opened up, but more weirdly, all the balcony seats are for sale again that were not available earlier.  So essentially the place looks like itll be empty.  :facepalm:  Oh well, I know I will be there in the front row enjoying my evening  :metal  Otherwise I'd be pulling out hairs watching the debate  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on October 19, 2016, 04:50:47 PM
Fourth row center now fetching $20/ea on Stubhub.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on October 19, 2016, 08:22:07 PM
DT posted this picture on their Facebook advertising their Diamond package where you get to walk on the stage before the show or something like that. I couldn't help but kind of laugh at the picture, but I was curious if the new package was an attempt to get more ticket sales

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14725667_10153823844272181_5497043481688288152_n.jpg?oh=48bb5c6dd9dd631bee57060d19663209&oe=5861D26C)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on October 19, 2016, 08:41:07 PM
Have they added a new package, or have they just added more access? This just seems to me like adding some value. As for increasing ticket sales, this makes no difference. The people who will spend money to shake hands and get a picture have probably already done so. It's a commercial for that package, but it's not going to put 200 more people in seats which is what they need.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on October 19, 2016, 08:48:02 PM
Apparently if you purchase a platinum package you will be contacted about upgrading to the Diamond
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: jsbru on October 19, 2016, 08:53:27 PM
I can see why this second leg isn't selling great except for a few places.  I did drive 4 hours to see them at a nearly sold-out show in Chicago, with VIP tickets.  It was one of the most amazing shows I've ever seen.

It's hard for me to convince myself to spend even $30 to see them here in St. Louis when they're about 10 minutes away on the train and I won't even have to pay for parking.  Because.....it's the exact same show, and it won't feel nearly as exciting with half of the Peabody Opera House empty.

Thing is, even the FL shows look like they're drawing poor attendance.  I just don't understand why they've chosen to play where they have.  3 Central FL shows, but none in South FL?

They definitely should have done an abridged version of The Astonishing, with a second set of other songs.  I'd go see that in a heartbeat.

Anyhow, their costs are probably a lot lower this time around because most of their overhead has been paid for, and there simply lugging around the setup that's already been paid for, etc.  Maybe it's just a fun thing for them to be playing in smaller theaters.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 20, 2016, 07:43:05 AM
I think that picture was supposed to be a bit of comedy/"look we have old lady fans" but mostly to advertise a new package they are offering.  Which works for these poor selling shows at it creates more income from the people who are going.  There isn't anything they can do to get more butts in the seats without changing the show.

I had an AWESOME time at the show last night, but I wrote my complaints in the complaint thread because there were legit complaints as well and from talking to some of the people at the show, there were a lot of pissed off fans in my section as well as the two people next to me who left at intermission and sat with their arms crossed the entire first half.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cfmoran13 on October 20, 2016, 07:48:44 AM
Well, last night was, by far, my least favorite DT show I've ever been to.  I knew going in what I was in for.  I am not a fan of TA at all.  But, I've heard other people say they gained a whole new appreciation for the album seeing it played live in its entirety.  Unfortunately, I did not gain that appreciation.  James did a great job with the material.  I just don't like it.  And, I've never felt so disconnected at a DT show (having I've seen them over 20 times since '94).  I find the songs lacking in any kind of energy.  The first hour of the show felt like it had been three hours.  The only time I felt any real energy in the venue was during "Our New World".  A couple of times of times, James asked the crowd to sing along.  I kinda laughed to myself because, to be honest, other than ONW, I couldn't have sung along if i wanted to since I don't even know the words.  Nothing on that album compelled me to make that kind of commitment.

Like I said, I knew what I was in for when I bought the tickets.  I'm just happy that, after last night's show, I'll hopefully never hear any of those songs (except one or two) live again.

Having never been there before, I thought the venue was pretty cool.  It's a shame it couldn't have been more full.  And, the whole "Don't access your cell phone at any time during the performance" announcement, is that from the band or the venue?  That's a pretty extreme request to make.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: pantsofeternity on October 20, 2016, 09:44:24 AM
I've seen some great DT setlists (TOT and DT12 tours especially), but the two TA shows I attended were probably my most enjoyable DT live experiences.  Not to take away from others' criticisms, which I totally understand and respect, but many of the things people complain about were actually improvements for me:

I'm honestly shocked I'm fairly alone on that last one; there's plenty of curmudgeonly folks on this forum, right?  I'm no Luddite, but I just don't see the point of taking concert video (the audio is always garbage, and I'd rather focus on being in the moment than getting something to watch later).  Photos I get, but I hate having other people's phones in my face while I'm trying to watch.  I just don't think the phone restriction is that big a deal. Phones are terrible at movie theaters and Broadway shows; I don't think they're any less annoying at a rock show. My two cents, of course... flame away. :)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on October 20, 2016, 09:49:48 AM
I've never seen anybody here defend cellphones at concerts. I'm actually pretty cool with them and I'm an outlier. What people have been objecting to on this tour is the hardassed nature of the shows. Security at these things have been particularly obnoxious due to the bands request.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on October 20, 2016, 09:53:35 AM
I've never seen anybody here defend cellphones at concerts. I'm actually pretty cool with them and I'm an outlier. What people have been objecting to on this tour is the hardassed nature of the shows. Security at these things have been particularly obnoxious due to the bands request.

I don't mind cellphone use at concerts, as long as some decent etiquette is used. Snap a few pics? No issue there whatsoever. Start taking video? You begin to annoy me. Record multiple songs consecutively in their entirety? Fuck off. Bring in a tablet as your media capturing device? Kill yourself. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: pantsofeternity on October 20, 2016, 09:54:18 AM
I've never seen anybody here defend cellphones at concerts. I'm actually pretty cool with them and I'm an outlier. What people have been objecting to on this tour is the hardassed nature of the shows. Security at these things have been particularly obnoxious due to the bands request.
Huh, I guess I just haven't had any bad experiences with security personally.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on October 20, 2016, 09:58:32 AM
I've never seen anybody here defend cellphones at concerts. I'm actually pretty cool with them and I'm an outlier. What people have been objecting to on this tour is the hardassed nature of the shows. Security at these things have been particularly obnoxious due to the bands request.
Huh, I guess I just haven't had any bad experiences with security personally.
RCMH was the first time I actually wanted to sock one of those assholes, and I wasn't alone. First text I got after the show was something to effect of "Linda came real close to kicking a security guard's ass."
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cfmoran13 on October 20, 2016, 10:00:40 AM
I've seen some great DT setlists (TOT and DT12 tours especially), but the two TA shows I attended were probably my most enjoyable DT live experiences.  Not to take away from others' criticisms, which I totally understand and respect, but many of the things people complain about were actually improvements for me:
  • I love TA to begin with;
  • I think it's cool that they're presenting just the album as a single work;
  • I like treating a rock concert like it's an evening at the theater (though please understand that you will see me rocking out in my seat at Broadway shows, so an evening at the theater to me is not a passive event);
  • I don't mind sitting down for concerts because (a) I like standing to be reserved for key moments of appreciation and (b) my feet get tired;
  • I hate cell phones at concerts.

I'm honestly shocked I'm fairly alone on that last one; there's plenty of curmudgeonly folks on this forum, right?  I'm no Luddite, but I just don't see the point of taking concert video (the audio is always garbage, and I'd rather focus on being in the moment than getting something to watch later).  Photos I get, but I hate having other people's phones in my face while I'm trying to watch.  I just don't think the phone restriction is that big a deal. Phones are terrible at movie theaters and Broadway shows; I don't think they're any less annoying at a rock show. My two cents, of course... flame away. :)

I agree cell phones are annoying during concerts.  However, I was scolded from 30 feet away for taking a picture of me and my wife with the stage in back of us 20 minutes before the show started.  The announcement made it sound like you should turn it off during the performance.  When you have children being babysat at home, that's a little extreme.  Obviously, my phone stayed on.  Just not used for pics/vids.

I'd agree with the rest of your points, too... if I didn't dislike TA.  Cool idea overall.  Would've worked better for me if it was for SFaM of SDoIT. ;D
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 20, 2016, 10:05:26 AM
I've never seen anybody here defend cellphones at concerts. I'm actually pretty cool with them and I'm an outlier. What people have been objecting to on this tour is the hardassed nature of the shows. Security at these things have been particularly obnoxious due to the bands request.
Huh, I guess I just haven't had any bad experiences with security personally.
RCMH was the first time I actually wanted to sock one of those assholes, and I wasn't alone. First text I got after the show was something to effect of "Linda came real close to kicking a security guard's ass."

I was threatened a few times to be kicked out by security at RCMH.  I was pretty drunk so I can't defend my actions of wanting to jump and run down the aisle and use my camera, but I never got kicked out because I kept pretending like I didn't know what the usher was saying.

Last night I didnt even attempt to do anything cause I just wanted to sit back and enjoy the show, which I very much did.  But the ushers were even worse than RCMH last night.  And they were TOLD to be that way, not their interpretation of the rules as they told me.  The asshole usher was actually pretty nice during intermission when some of the complaints were brought to him in a respectful manner.  He was just doing his job.

As for phones, I love using my phone at a concert.  I hate when someone tells me you aren't enjoying the show.  Fuck off.  I'm almost always having a blast.  However, I am very much respectful as to not over use or not block someone else's view with my camera.  I even have a youtube page for my videos which usually gets a few compliments like "I'm so glad you got this recorded".  Also, the audio on cameras now is great.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: utopiarun on October 20, 2016, 01:36:01 PM
I've never seen anybody here defend cellphones at concerts. I'm actually pretty cool with them and I'm an outlier. What people have been objecting to on this tour is the hardassed nature of the shows. Security at these things have been particularly obnoxious due to the bands request.
Huh, I guess I just haven't had any bad experiences with security personally.
RCMH was the first time I actually wanted to sock one of those assholes, and I wasn't alone. First text I got after the show was something to effect of "Linda came real close to kicking a security guard's ass."

I was threatened a few times to be kicked out by security at RCMH.  I was pretty drunk so I can't defend my actions of wanting to jump and run down the aisle and use my camera, but I never got kicked out because I kept pretending like I didn't know what the usher was saying.

Last night I didnt even attempt to do anything cause I just wanted to sit back and enjoy the show, which I very much did.  But the ushers were even worse than RCMH last night.  And they were TOLD to be that way, not their interpretation of the rules as they told me.  The asshole usher was actually pretty nice during intermission when some of the complaints were brought to him in a respectful manner.  He was just doing his job.

As for phones, I love using my phone at a concert.  I hate when someone tells me you aren't enjoying the show.  Fuck off.  I'm almost always having a blast.  However, I am very much respectful as to not over use or not block someone else's view with my camera.  I even have a youtube page for my videos which usually gets a few compliments like "I'm so glad you got this recorded".  Also, the audio on cameras now is great.

Well, to the best of your knowledge you aren't blocking someone else's view. The truth is, even if you aren't holding the phone up, the light from the phone is a distraction in a dark audience (at least to me). I enjoyed the show immensely last night (I love TA) and not having to look around a phone or see a phone light in front of me made it better.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 20, 2016, 01:55:31 PM
I've never seen anybody here defend cellphones at concerts. I'm actually pretty cool with them and I'm an outlier. What people have been objecting to on this tour is the hardassed nature of the shows. Security at these things have been particularly obnoxious due to the bands request.
Huh, I guess I just haven't had any bad experiences with security personally.
RCMH was the first time I actually wanted to sock one of those assholes, and I wasn't alone. First text I got after the show was something to effect of "Linda came real close to kicking a security guard's ass."

I was threatened a few times to be kicked out by security at RCMH.  I was pretty drunk so I can't defend my actions of wanting to jump and run down the aisle and use my camera, but I never got kicked out because I kept pretending like I didn't know what the usher was saying.

Last night I didnt even attempt to do anything cause I just wanted to sit back and enjoy the show, which I very much did.  But the ushers were even worse than RCMH last night.  And they were TOLD to be that way, not their interpretation of the rules as they told me.  The asshole usher was actually pretty nice during intermission when some of the complaints were brought to him in a respectful manner.  He was just doing his job.

As for phones, I love using my phone at a concert.  I hate when someone tells me you aren't enjoying the show.  Fuck off.  I'm almost always having a blast.  However, I am very much respectful as to not over use or not block someone else's view with my camera.  I even have a youtube page for my videos which usually gets a few compliments like "I'm so glad you got this recorded".  Also, the audio on cameras now is great.

Well, to the best of your knowledge you aren't blocking someone else's view. The truth is, even if you aren't holding the phone up, the light from the phone is a distraction in a dark audience (at least to me). I enjoyed the show immensely last night (I love TA) and not having to look around a phone or see a phone light in front of me made it better.

And I put my screen at the lowest light setting which I admit will still create some light, but certainly not something that I would have thought would ever bother anyone.  But I take these extra precautions because I know it IS bothersome.  I see people with bright screens, using flash photography, sticking their phone so high in the air.  I try to get a few shots without doing any of this.  I've yet to have a single person ask me to stop (and while many wouldn't say anything, i think by now at least one person would have asked me to stop if I was being bothersome).

There is definitely a fine line between using your camera in a way that isn't bothersome vs. is bothersome. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: dtvoices94 on October 20, 2016, 02:42:21 PM
I get it about cell phones once the show starts but at the Kirby Center, they were relentless pre-show.  I just told the usher I'm texting my wife because she thinks I ran out for milk.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: JayOctavarium on October 20, 2016, 03:23:23 PM
re: phones

I used to be the person who wanted to record all the things. Now its a quick few shots during the show (Pull out phone... point.. tap tap tap taptap tap tap. then put it away) and MAYBE a snapchat video to annoy my friends. but that's it.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: pantsofeternity on October 20, 2016, 03:25:33 PM
I get it about cell phones once the show starts but at the Kirby Center, they were relentless pre-show.  I just told the usher I'm texting my wife because she thinks I ran out for milk.
See I agree about that -- I guess we just didn't have a run-in?  I was using my phone just to piss around on while I waited for the show to start. An usher did make a general announcement about phones to us but I took it to mean just have them away when the show starts... maybe we got a less hardass usher in our section.  I get wanting phones away during the show, and I even get "no pictures of the set" restrictions, but no phones at all while you're sitting around waiting?  Yeah, that's messed up.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on October 23, 2016, 07:13:27 AM
Port Chester show was really great. I'd still say the show in Wallingford CT was the best of the three I went to from a sound standpoint. The Oakdale is top notch and is a modern theater. As gorgeous and acoustically friendly places like The Capitol Theatre are, they weren't designed having sound systems like Dream Theater in mind when they were built 100 years ago. Nonetheless, it still sounded pretty damn good. The venue wasn't full, but the band seemed into it, and as soon as Hymm of a Thousand Voices came on, the room exploded. The crowd was into it and the energy was overflowing until the credits rolled. It was probably a nice sigh of relief for the band given the onslaught of negativity they seem to get when the post anything Astonishing related to their social media pages. I really enjoyed The Astonishing, and I'm really bummed we'll probably never see it played again after this tour.


Broke the golden rule during the bow.
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Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on October 23, 2016, 09:24:52 AM
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Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Shadow2222 on October 25, 2016, 08:01:50 AM
I'm just going to post this again, because now that we are only 11 days away from the Columbus show, I have no idea how it hasn't  been cancelled. I hope it doesn't, but it will be a bit depressing either way:

https://www.ticketmaster.com/dream-theater-presents-the-astonishing-live-columbus-ohio-11-05-2016/event/0500512EFAD05146?ab=reloaded (https://www.ticketmaster.com/dream-theater-presents-the-astonishing-live-columbus-ohio-11-05-2016/event/0500512EFAD05146?ab=reloaded)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 25, 2016, 08:15:56 AM
I'm just going to post this again, because now that we are only 11 days away from the Columbus show, I have no idea how it hasn't  been cancelled. I hope it doesn't, but it will be a bit depressing either way:

https://www.ticketmaster.com/dream-theater-presents-the-astonishing-live-columbus-ohio-11-05-2016/event/0500512EFAD05146?ab=reloaded (https://www.ticketmaster.com/dream-theater-presents-the-astonishing-live-columbus-ohio-11-05-2016/event/0500512EFAD05146?ab=reloaded)

Looks like the norm for this leg.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 25, 2016, 09:02:06 AM
I'm just going to post this again, because now that we are only 11 days away from the Columbus show, I have no idea how it hasn't  been cancelled. I hope it doesn't, but it will be a bit depressing either way:

https://www.ticketmaster.com/dream-theater-presents-the-astonishing-live-columbus-ohio-11-05-2016/event/0500512EFAD05146?ab=reloaded (https://www.ticketmaster.com/dream-theater-presents-the-astonishing-live-columbus-ohio-11-05-2016/event/0500512EFAD05146?ab=reloaded)

Looks like the norm for this leg.

Yikes, that's a rough looking ticket map.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: As I Am on October 25, 2016, 12:22:10 PM
Whenever there are more available seats than seats sold (and in THIS case, WAY MORE available seats), it certainly is a sad thing to see for a favorite band :facepalm:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: As I Am on October 25, 2016, 12:23:50 PM
I've said it before, but they will need to do something HUGE and drastic for the next album. Whether a fan of it or not, I feel they need to do a Train of Thought type album to show everyone they still have their metal balls!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: AngelBack on October 26, 2016, 03:23:11 PM
IF I am deciphering TicketMaster properly it looks like Atlanta is about 2/3 sold.  Still almost 6 weeks to show date.  Would love to send the guys a message about their fan base here with a sell out.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on October 27, 2016, 01:47:51 PM
Better start saving some cash to travel to those countless European festivals where DT plays an abridged setlist, because this I suspect will be the last U.S. second leg we see for quite a while. 

These maps (geesh Toledo, Ohio! what happened?) are a clear sign that if it ain't metal, the crowds won't come.

On the brighter side, I don't miss the drafts of weed that pollute every metal show, as the Broadway Astonishing air has been pleasantly nice n clean.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on October 27, 2016, 02:48:42 PM
Better start saving some cash to travel to those countless European festivals where DT plays an abridged setlist, because this I suspect will be the last U.S. second leg we see for quite a while. 

These maps (geesh Toledo, Ohio! what happened?) are a clear sign that if it ain't metal, the crowds won't come.

On the brighter side, I don't miss the drafts of weed that pollute every metal show, as the Broadway Astonishing air has been pleasantly nice n clean.

I burned down plenty in the parking lot  :hat
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 27, 2016, 02:54:54 PM
Better start saving some cash to travel to those countless European festivals where DT plays an abridged setlist, because this I suspect will be the last U.S. second leg we see for quite a while. 

These maps (geesh Toledo, Ohio! what happened?) are a clear sign that if it ain't metal, the crowds won't come.

On the brighter side, I don't miss the drafts of weed that pollute every metal show, as the Broadway Astonishing air has been pleasantly nice n clean.

I burned down plenty in the parking lot  :hat

 :rollin  I don't have the balls to light up in an indoor concert hall.  I feel like it pisses too many people off and/or draws too much attention... but at an outdoor venue  :hat
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on October 27, 2016, 03:06:49 PM
Better start saving some cash to travel to those countless European festivals where DT plays an abridged setlist, because this I suspect will be the last U.S. second leg we see for quite a while. 

These maps (geesh Toledo, Ohio! what happened?) are a clear sign that if it ain't metal, the crowds won't come.

On the brighter side, I don't miss the drafts of weed that pollute every metal show, as the Broadway Astonishing air has been pleasantly nice n clean.

I burned down plenty in the parking lot  :hat

 :rollin  I don't have the balls to light up in an indoor concert hall.  I feel like it pisses too many people off and/or draws too much attention... but at an outdoor venue  :hat
This is why I laugh when youngsters tell me "man, I'd kill to have seen that show." No you wouldn't, you'd have hated it. You send one of them back in time to 1978 to see Rush and all they'd do is bitch when they got back. "It sounded like shit. People wouldn't sit down. There was too much smoke. My jacket smells like weed now. Christians told me I was going to hell. My ears won't stop ringing. Some drunk dude spilled beer on me. Some girl actually exposed her breasts. Man, it was awful."

Fucking great times.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ResultsMayVary on October 27, 2016, 04:45:09 PM
I'm going to the Louisville show tomorrow. As soon who usually hits up any Ohio date because I live here, I'm glad there are some other shows within reasonable driving distance (outside of Ohio) of where I live this time. Originally, I thought I had some serious bad luck because I had committed to doing other things during all three days DT were in Ohio on this leg (Lakewood, Toledo, and Columbus). My brother and I dig the album quite a bit, so we don't mind driving a little extra to see the show again. It'll be his second time seeing it and my third time (Cincinnati, Los Angeles). Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 27, 2016, 05:30:35 PM
Better start saving some cash to travel to those countless European festivals where DT plays an abridged setlist, because this I suspect will be the last U.S. second leg we see for quite a while. 

These maps (geesh Toledo, Ohio! what happened?) are a clear sign that if it ain't metal, the crowds won't come.

On the brighter side, I don't miss the drafts of weed that pollute every metal show, as the Broadway Astonishing air has been pleasantly nice n clean.

I burned down plenty in the parking lot  :hat

 :rollin  I don't have the balls to light up in an indoor concert hall.  I feel like it pisses too many people off and/or draws too much attention... but at an outdoor venue  :hat
This is why I laugh when youngsters tell me "man, I'd kill to have seen that show." No you wouldn't, you'd have hated it. You send one of them back in time to 1978 to see Rush and all they'd do is bitch when they got back. "It sounded like shit. People wouldn't sit down. There was too much smoke. My jacket smells like weed now. Christians told me I was going to hell. My ears won't stop ringing. Some drunk dude spilled beer on me. Some girl actually exposed her breasts. Man, it was awful."

Fucking great times.

Sign me up for that trip back in time
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: greyghost on October 27, 2016, 05:36:28 PM
Port Chester show was really great. I'd still say the show in Wallingford CT was the best of the three I went to from a sound standpoint. The Oakdale is top notch and is a modern theater.
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I think it may have been my favorite DT show ever! (and the sound in Port Chester was actually a lot better than it's been in the Oakdale several times that I've seen them there--I didn't see them there for this tour, though) The sound was fantastic, the staging etc. was great, and I don't know what's been happening for all you folks posting about the low energy and lack of interaction with the audience--In Port Chester the band was on fire, the sound was great, and both James and JP interacted more (and more effectively) with the crowd than I've ever seen them do (and the crowd was loud and responsive from the opening notes of the overture).  Great tour! I love TA, so your mileage may vary, obv...
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on October 27, 2016, 05:49:33 PM
These maps (geesh Toledo, Ohio! what happened?) are a clear sign that if it ain't metal, the crowds won't come..

That's not the issue. The issue is a) TA just wasn't that well received outside the hardcore circles and b) the second leg is a 100% exact copy of the first leg. The people that wanted to check out TA have seen it.

Had they done a "Best of TA + other DT songs", more people would have shown up I think. Sadly, DT are *really* locked into their performances these days.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: stargazer18 on October 27, 2016, 06:40:49 PM
Caution - long first post!
I’ve been reading this forum for a little while now and decided to join up after seeing “The Astonishing” live here in Cleveland this past Tuesday night at the Lakewood Civic Auditorium.  I was impressed with the concert and thought it was time and money well spent – more on this later. I’ve read enough on this forum to know that some like TA and some don’t. I think it is a unique addition to their discography, not their best (though in my top 5) but certainly not their least best(!)

I jumped at the chance to see them play TA here on a smaller second leg of the tour and bought two tickets so the wife and I could attend. The last time I saw them was 2009 when they opened for Iron Maiden. At the time the show was announced there was no way to know the Indian’s would be hosting the first game of the World Series the same night. Already scheduled was the CAV’s first home game of the season, the presentation of the championship rings and the hoisting of the banner at the Q. I don’t know if these events affected attendance but I guess there were about 500 people or so in the crowd.
 
The evening was a bit more complicated because my wife had surgery on both of her feet two weeks before and was using a small, four wheel walker with a seat in the middle as a wheelchair to get around when there was a lot of travelling to be done. We couldn’t use the main theater entrance but instead were directed to the handicap access door adjacent to the main entrance doors. A short walk down the hall in front of us then a left through a few sets of double doors took us past the entrance to the stage and then into the theater. Our seats were located nearby and after we were seated the usher took the walker and put it in the hallway just outside the double doors. We couldn’t keep it in the theater as it was considered a hazard in case of a fire. Our seats were located four rows back from the stage off to the side – directly in front of JP.
About 15 minutes before the show started I went looking for the walker so that I knew where it was in case my wife needed to get up during the show and I needed to get it. As it turns out they parked the walker directly across the hall from the room where the band was warming up. I could clearly see JR and JP through the window. Cool.

The show started about 7:45 and the only hiccup in the first set came from JR who inadvertently hit a guitar sound bite on his keyboard instead of the piano intro he needed for the song he was starting. He quickly cut the sound bite and a few whistles and cheers erupted from the crowd. It was all good!

The second set went off without a hitch and when they started Hymm of A Thousand Voices the crowd got up and stayed up the rest of the show. All in all everyone had a great time.
 
Once the house lights came on I exited the theater to get the walker and after passing through the first set of double doors  I encountered JP talking with his guitar tech (guess) and JR leaning against the second set of double doors obviously waiting for JP to finish his conversation. I walked right by JR, gave him a quick pat on the shoulder and said great show and great CD! He said thank you while I continued on my way to get the walker.

This was the sixth time I’ve seen the band live and they sounded great. I’m very pleased that they brought TA to Cleveland. I don’t think anyone was disappointed.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 27, 2016, 07:06:04 PM
 :metal nice, welcome to the forum.

I've been thinking a lot lately, I actually think last week seeing them was my favorite of the 13 other times.  I think it also had to do with some personal experiences like shaking JP's hand and being so close, but also the performance was really solid and I really enjoy TA.  It wasn't my favorite setlist, but my favorite overall experience at a DT concert.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on October 27, 2016, 08:10:18 PM
These maps (geesh Toledo, Ohio! what happened?) are a clear sign that if it ain't metal, the crowds won't come..

That's not the issue. The issue is a) TA just wasn't that well received outside the hardcore circles and b) the second leg is a 100% exact copy of the first leg. The people that wanted to check out TA have seen it.

Had they done a "Best of TA + other DT songs", more people would have shown up I think. Sadly, DT are *really* locked into their performances these days.

I fully agree that adding setlist variety would have VASTLY improved ticket sales on the second leg.  This Broadway inspired album (and "sit down" tour) just wasn't met with enthusiasm from the cross-over metal fans that are a major part of the base.

Trust me, DT was fully locked into its performance of Scenes From a Memory when I saw it performed 5 times in three US legs (and even that got boring) so I can understand the band being proud of the Astonishing's live presentation and wanting to celebrate it with a wider US audience.  Just didn't work out as they expected, and this will likely impact the scope of future U.S. tours.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on October 27, 2016, 08:10:55 PM
  to 1978 to see Rush........ Some girl actually exposed her breasts.

I don't know, Bart. That seems like a stretch.  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on October 27, 2016, 08:44:46 PM
  to 1978 to see Rush........ Some girl actually exposed her breasts.

I don't know, Bart. That seems like a stretch.  :lol

A girl at a Rush show?  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on October 27, 2016, 09:35:17 PM
  to 1978 to see Rush........ Some girl actually exposed her breasts.

I don't know, Bart. That seems like a stretch.  :lol

A girl at a Rush show?  :lol
Maybe there was a great looking guitar tech stage right at the time.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on October 28, 2016, 08:33:37 AM
  to 1978 to see Rush........ Some girl actually exposed her breasts.

I don't know, Bart. That seems like a stretch.  :lol

Depends on how old the girl is. They're pretty firm at the beginning.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on October 28, 2016, 08:36:35 AM
Trust me, DT was fully locked into its performance of Scenes From a Memory when I saw it performed 5 times in three US legs (and even that got boring) so I can understand the band being proud of the Astonishing's live presentation and wanting to celebrate it with a wider US audience.

That's understandable, but it's been an overall issue with post-MP DT I find. Their setlist already didn't change for previous second legs, both ADTOE and DT12 I believe. That is, they seriously tour the exact same sequence of songs, clicked to the millisecond, for 2 years straight for a given tour.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 28, 2016, 08:53:31 AM
Trust me, DT was fully locked into its performance of Scenes From a Memory when I saw it performed 5 times in three US legs (and even that got boring) so I can understand the band being proud of the Astonishing's live presentation and wanting to celebrate it with a wider US audience.

That's understandable, but it's been an overall issue with post-MP DT I find. Their setlist already didn't change for previous second legs, both ADTOE and DT12 I believe. That is, they seriously tour the exact same sequence of songs, clicked to the millisecond, for 2 years straight for a given tour.

ADTOE had rotating setlists and did change from leg to leg, but had a lot of the same core songs performed every night.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on October 28, 2016, 01:04:23 PM
Trust me, DT was fully locked into its performance of Scenes From a Memory when I saw it performed 5 times in three US legs (and even that got boring) so I can understand the band being proud of the Astonishing's live presentation and wanting to celebrate it with a wider US audience.

That's understandable, but it's been an overall issue with post-MP DT I find. Their setlist already didn't change for previous second legs, both ADTOE and DT12 I believe. That is, they seriously tour the exact same sequence of songs, clicked to the millisecond, for 2 years straight for a given tour.

True on the click, and if you've been to multiple shows on the DT12 tour, you probably noticed the rehearsed stage queues.  One of the joys of early Dream Theater were the unexpected live nuances (and a reason to collect the classic bootlegs). 

Although, on the other hand . . . Space Dye Vest.   Shattered Fortress.  The live choir in Boston. The return of the acoustic set. 

And did I mention Space Dye Vest?

So there have been some surprising moments, despite the lack of setlist variety and overly staged performances.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mioist on November 01, 2016, 09:02:39 AM
Hello everyone! I regret to see that ticket sales are not that strong this time around, although I do believe seeing the Astonishing album performed in its entirety is a must have. Just wanted to know if any of you may have heard any updates about a second European leg? Will there be one, any thoughts?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on November 01, 2016, 09:08:15 AM
I hope there is. If we don't get a filmed version of this, I'm going to be pissed.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ResultsMayVary on November 01, 2016, 03:08:28 PM
I hope there is. If we don't get a filmed version of this, I'm going to be pissed.

Not filming The Astonishing for a Blu-Ray/DVD/CD release would be unbelievably stupid considering all the effort that went into making the entire live show around that album and then just playing the new album on this world tour.

In slightly related news, JP did say on the Facebook Live chat yesterday that future tours would be different (I'm paraphrasing and wish I could remember what he said exactly). It didn't sound like the tours next year would be Astonishing-only.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 02, 2016, 05:59:13 AM
I'm thinking about going to Tuscon. Anyone going to this show?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: dreamtheater360 on November 02, 2016, 10:39:08 AM
I looked at the map of available seats at the Columbus, Ohio show that is in 3 days, and looks like they may have only sold 1/3 of the seats. It holds 2800 people, but I bet its less than 800-1000 seats sold. Not good at all.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mladen on November 02, 2016, 12:01:15 PM
They must be prepared financially, this might be a spectacular, admirable tour but it's still extremely polarizing and a lot of fans just don't care. That's just how it is when you do something truly different.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 02, 2016, 12:05:12 PM
I'm guessing that they probably get a sizable enough guarantee from the venues to cover costs, there just might not be much actual profit left over after the expenses are paid because of the low ticket sales.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: goo-goo on November 02, 2016, 12:13:37 PM
I'm guessing that they probably get a sizable enough guarantee from the venues to cover costs, there just might not be much actual profit left over after the expenses are paid because of the low ticket sales.

The loss is taken by the promoter, not the band. The guarantee might be partially paid if the promoter decides to cancel. Either way, DT gets money (and DT covers their related expenses such as crew, gas, lodging, etc). The promoter will just not bring DT during the next tour if the loss is big.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 02, 2016, 12:28:06 PM
I'm guessing that they probably get a sizable enough guarantee from the venues to cover costs, there just might not be much actual profit left over after the expenses are paid because of the low ticket sales.

The loss is taken by the promoter, not the band. The guarantee might be partially paid if the promoter decides to cancel. Either way, DT gets money (and DT covers their related expenses such as crew, gas, lodging, etc). The promoter will just not bring DT during the next tour if the loss is big.

Ah, okay that makes sense. Thanks!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on November 02, 2016, 06:13:24 PM
I don't think the band is completely in the clear though, I've definitely heard many bands complain about bad tours and how they lost a lot of money through them.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: goo-goo on November 02, 2016, 09:39:37 PM
I don't think the band is completely in the clear though, I've definitely heard many bands complain about bad tours and how they lost a lot of money through them.

The band would lose the money in unsold merchandise, some percentage of ticket revenue and probably not get paid a full guarantee. Steven Wilson mentioned that he lost money on his first couple of solo tours and made a small profit off his third. Yet you go to his shows and they seem to be completely full.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on November 03, 2016, 07:01:38 AM
I don't think SW is losing money these days, for sure. He had to add additional tour dates for HCR because of high demand.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: goo-goo on November 03, 2016, 07:53:16 AM
I don't think SW is losing money these days, for sure. He had to add additional tour dates for HCR because of high demand.

He definitely isn't on this last run. But he was more specific to the Insurgentes and Grace for Drowning tours. I'll be seeing him in two weeks in Dallas :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 07, 2016, 09:10:37 AM
uhhhh from DT's facebook
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Hey... since there are only a few weeks of shows left on The Astonishing Live tour here in the US before we take a break for The Holidays, we figured "What the heck!" Let's just all have some fun and add a few oldies but goodies to the show!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on November 07, 2016, 09:13:12 AM
Son of a bitch! I'm convinced the band reads this forum.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 07, 2016, 09:13:45 AM
Whoa, for real?! That's huge.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 07, 2016, 09:17:24 AM
It's kind of upsetting that it took them this long to give in to what the fans want, but maybe it also has to do with them hitting the south where they haven't played much.  Either way, that's a great treat for the fans who are going to the remaining shows.  :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: BelichickFan on November 07, 2016, 09:22:19 AM
Whoa, for real?! That's huge.
Yeah, this is a game changer if they keep it up.  I was going to Anaheim anyway but I'm sure they'll sell some extra tickets (and the place will go nuts) if they add 20-30 minutes of old stuff.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Logain Ablar on November 07, 2016, 09:22:48 AM
Also posted on the DT youtube channel, with the same message: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE8pFURwYrA
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on November 07, 2016, 09:23:51 AM
It's kind of upsetting that it took them this long to give in to what the fans want, but maybe it also has to do with them hitting the south where they haven't played much.  Either way, that's a great treat for the fans who are going to the remaining shows.  :metal

It's sort of shitty for those who've already seen it three times  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 07, 2016, 09:25:49 AM
It's kind of upsetting that it took them this long to give in to what the fans want, but maybe it also has to do with them hitting the south where they haven't played much.  Either way, that's a great treat for the fans who are going to the remaining shows.  :metal

It's sort of shitty for those who've already seen it three times  :lol

The only positive I can take from that is the songs are probably not going to be any deep cuts and one's I have seen many times before.  Granted I'd love to see them again and it would have made the two shows I went to more fun.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on November 07, 2016, 09:29:53 AM
It's kind of upsetting that it took them this long to give in to what the fans want, but maybe it also has to do with them hitting the south where they haven't played much.  Either way, that's a great treat for the fans who are going to the remaining shows.  :metal

It's sort of shitty for those who've already seen it three times  :lol

The only positive I can take from that is the songs are probably not going to be any deep cuts and one's I have seen many times before.  Granted I'd love to see them again and it would have made the two shows I went to more fun.

Only video I've seen regarding this was from the PMU clip on FB. Did the youtube link have something different? My guess it that they'll be playing 22-25 minutes of additional music. That should keep it to just under 3 hours. Assuming PMU, that leaves 13-16 additional minutes. I wonder if they'll play 1 or 2 songs in that time?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 07, 2016, 09:36:02 AM
It's kind of upsetting that it took them this long to give in to what the fans want, but maybe it also has to do with them hitting the south where they haven't played much.  Either way, that's a great treat for the fans who are going to the remaining shows.  :metal

It's sort of shitty for those who've already seen it three times  :lol
Indeed. However, it will have the intended effect and I'll go to see it now. I won't be paying full price, mind you, but I'll certainly go to see it.

edit: God damn it, naturally the Patriots are playing SNF that week. And against the unpredictable Seahawks. I guess I should wait and find out what the extra songs are now.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 07, 2016, 09:40:11 AM
Only video I've seen regarding this was from the PMU clip on FB. Did the youtube link have something different? My guess it that they'll be playing 22-25 minutes of additional music. That should keep it to just under 3 hours. Assuming PMU, that leaves 13-16 additional minutes. I wonder if they'll play 1 or 2 songs in that time?

The youtube video was PMU.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: sfam2112 on November 07, 2016, 05:42:44 PM
It's kind of upsetting that it took them this long to give in to what the fans want, but maybe it also has to do with them hitting the south where they haven't played much.  Either way, that's a great treat for the fans who are going to the remaining shows.  :metal

It's sort of shitty for those who've already seen it three times  :lol
Indeed. However, it will have the intended effect and I'll go to see it now. I won't be paying full price, mind you, but I'll certainly go to see it.

edit: God damn it, naturally the Patriots are playing SNF that week. And against the unpredictable Seahawks. I guess I should wait and find out what the extra songs are now.

Unless they intend to add more, the only addition, last night at least, was Pull Me Under according to setlist.fm.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mr. Ister on November 07, 2016, 06:05:32 PM
There were no additions in St. Louis last night.  Just the Astonishing.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: sfam2112 on November 07, 2016, 06:28:02 PM
There were no additions in St. Louis last night.  Just the Astonishing.

I see. Well, we all know how accurate setlist.fm can be from time to time. :P
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on November 07, 2016, 07:16:33 PM
That is really weird though. I mean, who would fill in a setlist solely based on hearsay from an announcement?

Mr. Ister, any chance you walked out too early? :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on November 07, 2016, 07:20:42 PM
Nope. I was there, too, and it was nothing but TA. And it was awesome.  :coolio :hat
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ? on November 08, 2016, 12:36:56 AM
3-song encore: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2016/arvest-bank-theatre-at-the-midland-kansas-city-mo-2bfac42a.html

I saw this coming when Jordan had #pullmeunder as one of the tags in an Instagram post. I'm surprised they didn't do it earlier, but they've been really pushing this leg of the tour on social media with all the behind-the-scenes photos, videos of attendees praising the show etc. so they must be doing everything they can to improve the attendance.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 08, 2016, 05:19:01 AM
3-song encore: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2016/arvest-bank-theatre-at-the-midland-kansas-city-mo-2bfac42a.html

I saw this coming when Jordan had #pullmeunder as one of the tags in an Instagram post. I'm surprised they didn't do it earlier, but they've been really pushing this leg of the tour on social media with all the behind-the-scenes photos, videos of attendees praising the show etc. so they must be doing everything they can to improve the attendance.

Nice.  Im surprised they went with the double encore though.  I wonder if anyone left thinking it was over after the first encore?  Or maybe setlist.fm is just wrong and there was only one encore.

Also, those three songs seem about right to what I would have thought.  Nothing out of the ordinary DT setlist from recent years.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 08, 2016, 07:14:18 AM
As I Am, TSCO, and PMU is a nice little addition to the set. Good stuff.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2016, 07:27:12 AM
As I Am, TSCO, and PMU is a nice little addition to the set. Good stuff.

Yawn.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on November 08, 2016, 07:28:31 AM
As I Am, TSCO, and PMU is a nice little addition to the set. Good stuff.

Yawn.

Yeah, those are honestly some of the few I could care less about seeing. I find AIA incredibly boring, and I've seen TSCO and PMU many times over.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2016, 07:29:34 AM
  I find AIA incredibly boring, 

As do I. It starts off really cool, but it's 7 or 8 minutes of blah.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: BelichickFan on November 08, 2016, 07:39:56 AM
As I Am, TSCO, and PMU is a nice little addition to the set. Good stuff.

Yawn.

Yeah, those are honestly some of the few I could care less about seeing. I find AIA incredibly boring, and I've seen TSCO and PMU many times over.
Certainly not the most creative choices but it's more than I was planning for when I bought my ticket so it's all good.  And TSCO may be my favorite track of all time (and it with the other two weren't on the Along for the Ride tour) so I certainly can't complain.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 08, 2016, 07:48:21 AM
They might not be the 3 I would pick, but those are 3 of my daughters' favorites, so I'm thrilled!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 08, 2016, 07:59:01 AM
Yeah, those are honestly some of the few I could care less about seeing. I find AIA incredibly boring, and I've seen TSCO and PMU many times over.

Well if they are aiming to pull in the more casual DT fan aren't those probably three safe bets to do that? I mean, I agree with you (I actually really like AIA) but I've seen DT play all those songs multiple times live. But I'm guessing their target audience with this move is the more casual fan, not the die hards. The die hards are probably going to come to the show any way, playing three of your more universally known songs that usually go over well live gets those folks on the fence to show up.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 08, 2016, 08:00:54 AM
I think these are great choices. Fitting the requirement of relatively shorter songs that are popular and good (and ones they already know with MM), they're probably the three I'd have picked too.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on November 08, 2016, 08:08:03 AM
I think these are great choices. Fitting the requirement of relatively shorter songs that are popular and good (and ones they already know with MM), they're probably the three I'd have picked too.

Agreed. If I personally could pick songs to fit that encore, I'd pick different songs, but that's not the point. The point is to try to draw a crowd, put butts in seats, those will probably do that to a degree.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on November 08, 2016, 08:12:32 AM
I think these are great choices. Fitting the requirement of relatively shorter songs that are popular and good (and ones they already know with MM), they're probably the three I'd have picked too.
Yeah, I have to agree, even if they aren't necessarily the songs I would have picked to fill the time if I were making the set list based on what I personally would want to see. 

Interestingly, I don't think I have ever actually seen them play PMU at a show.  Without going back and checking set lists, I cannot be sure.  But I don't recall ever having seen it live.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 08, 2016, 08:28:13 AM
I think these are great choices. Fitting the requirement of relatively shorter songs that are popular and good (and ones they already know with MM), they're probably the three I'd have picked too.

Agreed. If I personally could pick songs to fit that encore, I'd pick different songs, but that's not the point. The point is to try to draw a crowd, put butts in seats, those will probably do that to a degree.

Exactly, if you wanted to see different songs from DT then TA is a whole show of different and new songs.  This encore is what the show should of always had, a few of the classics for the casual fan to enjoy and new fans who wanted to see some of the older stuff.  It's perfect if you ask me even if it's not songs I particularly care to see live since I've seen them all a bunch.  (Actually PMU I haven't seen many times at all, maybe only once which is weird).
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 08, 2016, 11:06:22 AM
You know I wouldn't mind seeing PMU and As I AM again. But then adding TSCO makes me excited.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mladen on November 08, 2016, 11:58:06 AM
They gave in.  :lol

It's not a big deal nor much of a compromise, though. Having a three-song encore is still better than not playing all of The Astonishing and mixing in the old songs with SOME new ones. And it doesn't take away from the experience, being that they already did 90% of the shows the way they initially intended it - the overall message came across long ago. I wouldn't mind if this was the way a show I attended went down, but I'd still be surprised if this sealed the deal for some fans that were on the fence until now.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on November 09, 2016, 07:25:34 PM
They gave in.  :lol

It's not a big deal nor much of a compromise, though. Having a three-song encore is still better than not playing all of The Astonishing and mixing in the old songs with SOME new ones. And it doesn't take away from the experience, being that they already did 90% of the shows the way they initially intended it - the overall message came across long ago. I wouldn't mind if this was the way a show I attended went down, but I'd still be surprised if this sealed the deal for some fans that were on the fence until now.

Sweetens my purchase for Anaheim, but will not compel me to buy tix for Temecula.  Unless encore choice improves.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 11, 2016, 12:56:38 PM
From MM's FB:

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Seems like the crowd reaaaally likes hearing our adjusted set/new encore of oldies the last couple of shows. They will stay in!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mr. Ister on November 11, 2016, 01:51:38 PM
I have to say, the dumbest part about Sunday's show was them forcing in an "encore moment" with 2 tracks left on the 2nd disc of The Astonishing.  We know you're going to finish the album, so finish the damn album.  Why even pretend?  Get on with it!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 11, 2016, 02:02:16 PM
I have to say, the dumbest part about Sunday's show was them forcing in an "encore moment" with 2 tracks left on the 2nd disc of The Astonishing.  We know you're going to finish the album, so finish the damn album.  Why even pretend?  Get on with it!
That's always silly. Long ago Tool sat on the stage during their fake encore moment. They spent about 3 minutes sitting on DC's riser. Every once in a while one of them would go over and kick the guitar a little to keep the feedback going. One of them held up a lighter. Then they got back to work.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 11, 2016, 09:17:55 PM
I have to say, the dumbest part about Sunday's show was them forcing in an "encore moment" with 2 tracks left on the 2nd disc of The Astonishing.  We know you're going to finish the album, so finish the damn album.  Why even pretend?  Get on with it!

When they started the tour, it was all part of the second set, but the crowd was anticipating an encore when that was it, so DT quickly altered it to make the end of the album the encore to make that clear.
Now that they're including a real encore of additional tracks, I don't think it makes much sense for them to continue with that. Just make the extra songs the encore after finishing off TA.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 11, 2016, 09:44:40 PM
I have to say, the dumbest part about Sunday's show was them forcing in an "encore moment" with 2 tracks left on the 2nd disc of The Astonishing.  We know you're going to finish the album, so finish the damn album.  Why even pretend?  Get on with it!

When they started the tour, it was all part of the second set, but the crowd was anticipating an encore when that was it, so DT quickly altered it to make the end of the album the encore to make that clear.
Now that they're including a real encore of additional tracks, I don't think it makes much sense for them to continue with that. Just make the extra songs the encore after finishing off TA.
Chrsit, was Portnoy the only one with a clue how concerts work? I didn't realize they were keeping TA as an encore, before the extra songs. That's just dumb. I really can't figure out how so many examples of ineptitude are popping up around a band of such immense talent.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on November 11, 2016, 10:30:47 PM
Huh?  Mr. Ister was referring to the St Louis show where only the last two songs from TA were the encore; they didn't add the three older songs until the next night in KC.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 11, 2016, 10:40:44 PM
My bad. I got confused because the setlist I've seen for the more recent shows still listed the last two tracks of The Astonishing as an encore, and the extra tracks as a different encore. Is that the case, or is it yet another example of those sites being horribly wrong? :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mr. Ister on November 12, 2016, 06:07:27 AM
Yeah I was talking about St. Louis - the last show with no extra songs.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: BlobVanDam on November 12, 2016, 06:15:05 AM
Yeah, I didn't realize you were commenting on a show just before the change. The first half of my post is still relevant there, just disregard the rest.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on November 12, 2016, 07:15:10 AM
As much as I would have love to have gotten those extra three songs as an encore, I would have been slightly disappointed to not get The X Aspect, The Road to Revolution (that chorus was the air drum moment I was most looking forward to live :lol) and Heaven's Cove, so I am glad we got all of TA before this change.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 12, 2016, 07:54:30 AM
As much as I would have love to have gotten those extra three songs as an encore, I would have been slightly disappointed to not get The X Aspect, The Road to Revolution (that chorus was the air drum moment I was most looking forward to live :lol) and Heaven's Cove, so I am glad we got all of TA before this change.

Yea definitely.  I'd be so bummed without those songs and also so confused.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 12, 2016, 09:47:43 AM
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I have to say, the dumbest part about Sunday's show was them forcing in an "encore moment" with 2 tracks left on the 2nd disc of The Astonishing.  We know you're going to finish the album, so finish the damn album.  Why even pretend?  Get on with it!

When they started the tour, it was all part of the second set, but the crowd was anticipating an encore when that was it, so DT quickly altered it to make the end of the album the encore to make that clear.
Now that they're including a real encore of additional tracks, I don't think it makes much sense for them to continue with that. Just make the extra songs the encore after finishing off TA.

I blame the lame concert "encore" of the fact that people expected that "encore" after, even though the Bill stated The Astonishing, so why did people expect an encore if they knew their wasn't going to be one.

By having no encore and leaving after it was done, it's how a show should be.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on November 12, 2016, 10:57:14 AM
Chrsit, was Portnoy the only one with a clue how concerts work? I didn't realize they were keeping TA as an encore, before the extra songs. That's just dumb. I really can't figure out how so many examples of ineptitude are popping up around a band of such immense talent.

As a more general comment, I feel overall since the departure of MP DT have become quite disconnected from their fans. There've been numerous occasions where I feel that, had DT a better idea about their fanbase, they would not have done a certain thing.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 12, 2016, 11:47:14 AM
The setlists still show a separate encore for TA, before the old song encore. That really makes no sense.

Chrsit, was Portnoy the only one with a clue how concerts work? I didn't realize they were keeping TA as an encore, before the extra songs. That's just dumb. I really can't figure out how so many examples of ineptitude are popping up around a band of such immense talent.

As a more general comment, I feel overall since the departure of MP DT have become quite disconnected from their fans. There've been numerous occasions where I feel that, had DT a better idea about their fanbase, they would not have done a certain thing.
I have a different take. I think MP was the only real music fan. I doubt the other guys were going to see KISS back in the 70's. I doubt they're going to see Motley Crue or Ghost nowadays. MP knows how concerts should be. The other guys only know how they think they should be, and they're often very wrong. I understand why the moved TA to the encore originally, and it actually wasn't a bad approach. Leaving it that way after a proper encore was added just jumps out at me like an amateurish oversight.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on November 12, 2016, 12:02:25 PM
I don't think that's fair to say that Portnoy was the only real music fan.  Petrucci and Rudess have always both struck me as massive music fans as well, and JLB has often spoke of his influences as a singer and bands he likes.  It's possible that Portnoy is a bigger music fan than those guys (although good luck figuring out an accurate way of measuring that), but to say they aren't real music fans? Seems unfair.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 12, 2016, 01:31:00 PM
Mike Portnoy had a fan mindset, meaning he did things he as a fan would like to see.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on November 12, 2016, 01:38:19 PM
I think "fan mindset" is the right phrase. The other guys obviously like music just as much, but MP wanted to recreate the live experience he remembered from concerts of his favorite bands, so he put a lot of emphasis on that,, both live and online. There's no question MP could play to click, but I think that was one of those lines he didn't want to cross. Backing tracks probably too.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: YtseJamittaja on November 12, 2016, 02:05:28 PM
Yeah, I agree that MP had that fan mindset which others doesn't. Live music should play without click track, maybe a bit faster than the original, it's live and it should sound different than the studio version. Those extended jams were quite of MP thing too I think and those were amazing. I hope that even though the video show and lightings are programmed to sync with music, they should left room for extended solos or sections and improvising. Unexpectedness is the best thing at concerts.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 12, 2016, 02:15:05 PM
I think "fan mindset" is the right phrase. The other guys obviously like music just as much, but MP wanted to recreate the live experience he remembered from concerts of his favorite bands, so he put a lot of emphasis on that,, both live and online. There's no question MP could play to click, but I think that was one of those lines he didn't want to cross. Backing tracks probably too.

He did play with Backing tracks though, Prophets of War his vocals were triggered. Which I though was an odd decision as those background vocals would've been cool. J just think he couldn't Do it constantly
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 12, 2016, 02:56:52 PM
I still think there's a difference between
Mike Portnoy had a fan mindset, meaning he did things he as a fan would like to see.
This is a good way to put it. At the same time, MP still strikes me as the guy who'll got to see Sabbath, or crank up Master of Puppets in his car. None of the others really do. I think this is important, as he's the sort of guy who'd list 5 different ways of approaching what JP wants to do here with TA and why they work.

And it occurs to me that he has a similar approach to Quentin Tarantino in this regard. He also does his thing from the perspective of a true fan.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on November 12, 2016, 08:34:36 PM
I think these are great choices. Fitting the requirement of relatively shorter songs that are popular and good (and ones they already know with MM), they're probably the three I'd have picked too.

No complaints here. Sure, they could have picked others that would be just as good, but two of the three songs are regulars in their setlists. AIA is a bit of a surprise since it has been rarely played outside of the ToT  tour.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: JayOctavarium on November 12, 2016, 09:59:01 PM
They also played IAI on the Maiden tour, as wasnt it rotation during the Dramatic Tour of Events?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on November 12, 2016, 10:05:01 PM
Yes. It has been played quite a bit more than I thought.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 14, 2016, 01:44:04 PM
Occurs to me that I might be the only one here (yet) that's seen the thing with and without the encore. This is definitely the better way to go. I didn't miss the songs that got whacked, and it improved the pacing of TA. Moreover, the added songs were a huge change from the show that they had been doing. Something that hadn't occurred to me going in was the different styles of lighting. TA is very frenetic with lots of strobes and movement. Even the slower songs have plenty of movement largely over a very bright base. Once they got to the non-TA material the show became more old-school. Lots of wash over a darker background. Moodier. It was a pretty stark change from the previous hour and a half. Add to that a much livelier crowd.

Oh, and the setlist (at least JLB's) was a cheat-sheet for the count-ins.

5 Better Life Cowbell 1 2 3 As Fearless Leader
6 Lord Nef Cowbell 1 2 3 4 How the Rumours
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 14, 2016, 03:12:56 PM
I'm on my to Tucson. Gonna be great to finally see TSCO live.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 14, 2016, 03:50:48 PM
I'm on my to Tucson. Gonna be great to finally see TSCO live.

 :metal enjoy!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on November 14, 2016, 07:54:27 PM
Dream Theater's Facebook page is still advertising the remaining shows as "The Astonishing" in its entirety, but it is my understanding that they lopped off two songs.  Just when I was really digging JP's univibe tone on "Road to Revolution."
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 15, 2016, 04:23:41 AM
Me too..I love that song.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 15, 2016, 04:26:16 AM
I'm on my to Tucson. Gonna be great to finally see TSCO live.

 :metal enjoy!


I will enjoy it all.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on November 15, 2016, 06:07:43 AM
Dream Theater's Facebook page is still advertising the remaining shows as "The Astonishing" in its entirety, but it is my understanding that they lopped off two songs.  Just when I was really digging JP's univibe tone on "Road to Revolution."

Wait, what? They cut out tracks?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: BelichickFan on November 15, 2016, 06:52:36 AM
Dream Theater's Facebook page is still advertising the remaining shows as "The Astonishing" in its entirety, but it is my understanding that they lopped off two songs.  Just when I was really digging JP's univibe tone on "Road to Revolution."

Wait, what? They cut out tracks?
Yes, I think it's Road to Revolution, Heaven's Cove and Begin Again.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on November 15, 2016, 06:57:55 AM
Dream Theater's Facebook page is still advertising the remaining shows as "The Astonishing" in its entirety, but it is my understanding that they lopped off two songs.  Just when I was really digging JP's univibe tone on "Road to Revolution."

Wait, what? They cut out tracks?
Yes, I think it's Road to Revolution, Heaven's Cove and Begin Again.

Wow. That blows.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: BelichickFan on November 15, 2016, 07:28:17 AM
Dream Theater's Facebook page is still advertising the remaining shows as "The Astonishing" in its entirety, but it is my understanding that they lopped off two songs.  Just when I was really digging JP's univibe tone on "Road to Revolution."

Wait, what? They cut out tracks?
Yes, I think it's Road to Revolution, Heaven's Cove and Begin Again.

Wow. That blows.

It does.  I guess I would reluctantly trade those three for the new As I Am, The Spirit Carries On, Pull Me Under encore.  But adding the encore without cutting those other tracks would have been optimal for sure.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on November 15, 2016, 07:35:43 AM
Dream Theater's Facebook page is still advertising the remaining shows as "The Astonishing" in its entirety, but it is my understanding that they lopped off two songs.  Just when I was really digging JP's univibe tone on "Road to Revolution."

Wait, what? They cut out tracks?
Yes, I think it's Road to Revolution, Heaven's Cove and Begin Again.

Wow. That blows.

It does.  I guess I would reluctantly trade those three for the new As I Am, The Spirit Carries On, Pull Me Under encore.  But adding the encore without cutting those other tracks would have been optimal for sure.

All I know is if I were in a place that had not seen the Astonishing at all, like North Carolina for instance, I would be pissed that I would be missing 3 songs from, and not getting a complete show. I was never hugely on board with the band NEEDING an encore, but I definitely don't need it in favor of songs from TA. They should have added the encore to the end of the whole album, or stuck to their guns and not done it at all.

That being said, I'm glad I got to see the album twice in it's entirety, but I'm good to see something else.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 15, 2016, 08:52:51 AM
As I said before, I think it's an improvement for a variety of reasons. And I say that as somebody who likes Road to Revolution.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 15, 2016, 09:48:18 AM
As I said before, I think it's an improvement for a variety of reasons. And I say that as somebody who likes Road to Revolution.

No it's not. We as fans are spoiled and them trading 4 songs to please us...it makes me feel, I don't know, spoiled. I am glad I get to see TSCO live but not at the expense of my four favorites from The Astonishing. Also, couldn't you get them for False advertising if they're not actually playing the entirety.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mr. Ister on November 15, 2016, 09:55:10 AM
Road to Revolution is one of the only memorable songs on Disc 2.  Why would they cut that out?  Cut out the stupid beep boop tracks.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on November 15, 2016, 09:59:29 AM
Road to Revolution is one of the only memorable songs on Disc 2. 

So memorable we forgot it was on Disc 1!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on November 15, 2016, 10:01:34 AM
:lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 15, 2016, 11:35:10 AM
lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 15, 2016, 11:39:05 AM
That's why it's "on the road to revolution" to disc 2
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 15, 2016, 11:59:03 AM
As I said before, I think it's an improvement for a variety of reasons. And I say that as somebody who likes Road to Revolution.

No it's not. We as fans are spoiled and them trading 4 songs to please us...it makes me feel, I don't know, spoiled. I am glad I get to see TSCO live but not at the expense of my four favorites from The Astonishing. Also, couldn't you get them for False advertising if they're not actually playing the entirety.
Were you able to see both versions? The pacing was better and I thought the first act ended better with the ANW solo. Frankly, the biggest fault in the whole thing is cutting any songs at all. It wasn't that long a show to begin with.

And we the fans should be spoiled. They only get to  do what they do because of us. Christ, Dio sang a song he despised every night for most of his career because he understood what it was really about.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mr. Ister on November 15, 2016, 12:10:48 PM
Oh fuck I was thinking of moment of betrayal

stupid DT and their overuse of prepositional phrases
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on November 15, 2016, 12:26:28 PM
Sure, blame it on grammar. Where's King?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 15, 2016, 12:39:26 PM
As I said before, I think it's an improvement for a variety of reasons. And I say that as somebody who likes Road to Revolution.

No it's not. We as fans are spoiled and them trading 4 songs to please us...it makes me feel, I don't know, spoiled. I am glad I get to see TSCO live but not at the expense of my four favorites from The Astonishing. Also, couldn't you get them for False advertising if they're not actually playing the entirety.
Were you able to see both versions? The pacing was better and I thought the first act ended better with the ANW solo. Frankly, the biggest fault in the whole thing is cutting any songs at all. It wasn't that long a show to begin with.

And we the fans should be spoiled. They only get to  do what they do because of us. Christ, Dio sang a song he despised every night for most of his career because he understood what it was really about.

No we as "fans" shouldn't be spoiled. Imagine DT playing in the '70's. Blame MTV and the radio. Hell, I'm glad I get to these great acts, and others don't get to witness this great music.

Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 15, 2016, 01:17:04 PM
As I said before, I think it's an improvement for a variety of reasons. And I say that as somebody who likes Road to Revolution.

No it's not. We as fans are spoiled and them trading 4 songs to please us...it makes me feel, I don't know, spoiled. I am glad I get to see TSCO live but not at the expense of my four favorites from The Astonishing. Also, couldn't you get them for False advertising if they're not actually playing the entirety.
Were you able to see both versions? The pacing was better and I thought the first act ended better with the ANW solo. Frankly, the biggest fault in the whole thing is cutting any songs at all. It wasn't that long a show to begin with.

And we the fans should be spoiled. They only get to  do what they do because of us. Christ, Dio sang a song he despised every night for most of his career because he understood what it was really about.

No we as "fans" shouldn't be spoiled. Imagine DT playing in the '70's. Blame MTV and the radio. Hell, I'm glad I get to these great acts, and others don't get to witness this great music.
A privilege you pay them handsomely for. They don't do what they do out of a sense of generosity. Frankly, they're luck as fuck to get to make a nice living doing what they enjoy.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 15, 2016, 02:14:11 PM
As I said before, I think it's an improvement for a variety of reasons. And I say that as somebody who likes Road to Revolution.

No it's not. We as fans are spoiled and them trading 4 songs to please us...it makes me feel, I don't know, spoiled. I am glad I get to see TSCO live but not at the expense of my four favorites from The Astonishing. Also, couldn't you get them for False advertising if they're not actually playing the entirety.
Were you able to see both versions? The pacing was better and I thought the first act ended better with the ANW solo. Frankly, the biggest fault in the whole thing is cutting any songs at all. It wasn't that long a show to begin with.

And we the fans should be spoiled. They only get to  do what they do because of us. Christ, Dio sang a song he despised every night for most of his career because he understood what it was really about.

No we as "fans" shouldn't be spoiled. Imagine DT playing in the '70's. Blame MTV and the radio. Hell, I'm glad I get to these great acts, and others don't get to witness this great music.
A privilege you pay them handsomely for. They don't do what they do out of a sense of generosity. Frankly, they're luck as fuck to get to make a nice living doing what they enjoy.

Well duh. But they don't have to cater to the fans whom are the most spoiled fans I know. I mean, people aren't enjoying music anymore, ironically it shows at the shows. JP and others are right, music is dying and machines are what is creating it. Look at the popularity of EDM shows.

Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 15, 2016, 02:37:26 PM
As I said before, I think it's an improvement for a variety of reasons. And I say that as somebody who likes Road to Revolution.

No it's not. We as fans are spoiled and them trading 4 songs to please us...it makes me feel, I don't know, spoiled. I am glad I get to see TSCO live but not at the expense of my four favorites from The Astonishing. Also, couldn't you get them for False advertising if they're not actually playing the entirety.
Were you able to see both versions? The pacing was better and I thought the first act ended better with the ANW solo. Frankly, the biggest fault in the whole thing is cutting any songs at all. It wasn't that long a show to begin with.

And we the fans should be spoiled. They only get to  do what they do because of us. Christ, Dio sang a song he despised every night for most of his career because he understood what it was really about.

No we as "fans" shouldn't be spoiled. Imagine DT playing in the '70's. Blame MTV and the radio. Hell, I'm glad I get to these great acts, and others don't get to witness this great music.
A privilege you pay them handsomely for. They don't do what they do out of a sense of generosity. Frankly, they're luck as fuck to get to make a nice living doing what they enjoy.

Well duh. But they don't have to cater to the fans whom are the most spoiled fans I know. I mean, people aren't enjoying music anymore, ironically it shows at the shows. JP and others are right, music is dying and machines are what is creating it. Look at the popularity of EDM shows.
They do have to cater to those fans if they want to be as successful as they were when they had a bandmate that spoiled all of those fans. As somebody (maybe it was you) the other day said, Portnoy was a fan's musician. That's awesome. DT are musician's musicians and those, by definition, exclude most of the public. It showed this tour.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on November 15, 2016, 02:55:56 PM
EB is right. Unless they want to wind up like the next Geoff Tate, they do need to go along with the greater majority of the fans. You can't make everyone happy but I think they realized adding this second leg, to cities they rarely go to, would have been better served mixing up the setlist. Those cities want to see their "hits" so throwing The Astonishing in its entirety at them probably disappointed many of them. Now, because of the poor ticket sales, those cities will probably never see Dream Theater again.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 15, 2016, 03:08:33 PM
My problem is that if they can't come back here it'll be the fault of us spoiled fans. I don't think that's fair at all. However, I can't speak for San Antonio and the bafflingly chosen Corpus Christie, but attendance in Dallas was pretty good. It seemed to be nearly, but not quite, on par with their other gigs here. It probably wasn't cost effective, but that's owning to their always poor choice of venue.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on November 15, 2016, 03:23:49 PM
I didn't get Corpus Christie either. Who is the man responsible for actuarial research? I think he should be fired. :lol I'm sure there is someone crunching numbers for them, trying to figure out what's best for the band to make money. I'm also assuming if they're playing some random location, like CC, that they would look at how far fans from other nearby cities would have to travel. Is CC near anything else that would justify them choosing that location?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 15, 2016, 04:49:31 PM
I didn't get Corpus Christie either. Who is the man responsible for actuarial research? I think he should be fired. :lol I'm sure there is someone crunching numbers for them, trying to figure out what's best for the band to make money. I'm also assuming if they're playing some random location, like CC, that they would look at how far fans from other nearby cities would have to travel. Is CC near anything else that would justify them choosing that location?
Yeah, San Antonio.  :lol

My guess is that they just booked places where people were willing to book them. Somebody in CC said yeah and nobody in Houston did. But honestly, this whole tour has been baffling.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 15, 2016, 11:19:44 PM
JLB kicked ass tonight. He hit all the notes, and then some. We rocked so hard he even told us to sing along. The best was when he forgot the lyrics to The beginning of Losing Faythe. My gosh, I can't believe how on for they were. JLB even held the mic out for us to sing the last chorus of PMU
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on November 16, 2016, 04:03:34 AM
I didn't get Corpus Christie either. Who is the man responsible for actuarial research? I think he should be fired. :lol I'm sure there is someone crunching numbers for them, trying to figure out what's best for the band to make money. I'm also assuming if they're playing some random location, like CC, that they would look at how far fans from other nearby cities would have to travel. Is CC near anything else that would justify them choosing that location?
Yeah, San Antonio.  :lol

My guess is that they just booked places where people were willing to book them. Somebody in CC said yeah and nobody in Houston did. But honestly, this whole tour has been baffling.

I concur. Your first sentence is probably more along the lines of what happened. I'm sure the band wanted to play places like Houston but wound up in...Corpus Christie. Looking back at my list, they did play there in 2005 but it was for Gigantour.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 16, 2016, 08:27:10 AM
I didn't get Corpus Christie either. Who is the man responsible for actuarial research? I think he should be fired. :lol I'm sure there is someone crunching numbers for them, trying to figure out what's best for the band to make money. I'm also assuming if they're playing some random location, like CC, that they would look at how far fans from other nearby cities would have to travel. Is CC near anything else that would justify them choosing that location?
Yeah, San Antonio.  :lol

My guess is that they just booked places where people were willing to book them. Somebody in CC said yeah and nobody in Houston did. But honestly, this whole tour has been baffling.

I concur. Your first sentence is probably more along the lines of what happened. I'm sure the band wanted to play places like Houston but wound up in...Corpus Christie. Looking back at my list, they did play there in 2005 but it was for Gigantour.
Corpus does get shows. It's just not really a standalone destination or a substitute for Houston. If you're playing 3 dates in Texas, Corpus makes no sense. If you're playing 6, then it's a reasonable spot to hit.

And others here would have better knowledge, but it was one of the Southern Texas cities that actually put DT on the map. Not sure if it was Corpus or Galveston (which would be a halfway viable alternative to Houston), but one of those towns had a DJ that started the initial run with Pull Me Under.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 16, 2016, 08:35:11 AM
JLB kicked ass tonight. He hit all the notes, and then some. We rocked so hard he even told us to sing along. The best was when he forgot the lyrics to The beginning of Losing Faythe. My gosh, I can't believe how on for they were. JLB even held the mic out for us to sing the last chorus of PMU

Nice, the band really was on fire this tour.  That's one thing that gets lost in the complaints and other commentary on the tour is that the band was really performing at a high level.  I thought the show in NJ they may have sounded better than ever before.  I guess that's part of them having played it so many times now.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 16, 2016, 08:48:17 AM
JLB kicked ass tonight. He hit all the notes, and then some. We rocked so hard he even told us to sing along. The best was when he forgot the lyrics to The beginning of Losing Faythe. My gosh, I can't believe how on for they were. JLB even held the mic out for us to sing the last chorus of PMU

Nice, the band really was on fire this tour.  That's one thing that gets lost in the complaints and other commentary on the tour is that the band was really performing at a high level.  I thought the show in NJ they may have sounded better than ever before.  I guess that's part of them having played it so many times now.

Plus it seemed that they were just presenting a DT show. I guess it helped the video screen wasn't really working
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 16, 2016, 08:50:05 AM
JLB kicked ass tonight. He hit all the notes, and then some. We rocked so hard he even told us to sing along. The best was when he forgot the lyrics to The beginning of Losing Faythe. My gosh, I can't believe how on for they were. JLB even held the mic out for us to sing the last chorus of PMU

Nice, the band really was on fire this tour.  That's one thing that gets lost in the complaints and other commentary on the tour is that the band was really performing at a high level.  I thought the show in NJ they may have sounded better than ever before.  I guess that's part of them having played it so many times now.

Plus it seemed that they were just presenting a DT show. I guess it helped the video screen wasn't really working

The screen wasn't working?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on November 16, 2016, 02:45:10 PM
For those going to Anaheim, see ya'll tonight!  I'll be in general admission section (GA tix near stage still available today   :-[)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 16, 2016, 02:52:50 PM
For those going to Anaheim, see ya'll tonight!  I'll be in general admission section (GA tix near stage still available today   :-[)

There's a GA pit?  That's interesting for these shows.  Have fun!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on November 16, 2016, 04:12:50 PM
For those going to Anaheim, see ya'll tonight!  I'll be in general admission section (GA tix near stage still available today   :-[)

There's a GA pit?  That's interesting for these shows.  Have fun!

The seated area at The Grove is a more appropriate dinner theater with a tables, full meal, wait staff, etc.  An enjoyable, communal DT experience, but couldn't do it this time due to the show falling on a work day (dinner service starts at 6:30pm and there is no way I could navigate the 405 freeway in time).
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on November 16, 2016, 08:28:53 PM
I didn't get Corpus Christie either. Who is the man responsible for actuarial research? I think he should be fired. :lol I'm sure there is someone crunching numbers for them, trying to figure out what's best for the band to make money. I'm also assuming if they're playing some random location, like CC, that they would look at how far fans from other nearby cities would have to travel. Is CC near anything else that would justify them choosing that location?
Yeah, San Antonio.  :lol

My guess is that they just booked places where people were willing to book them. Somebody in CC said yeah and nobody in Houston did. But honestly, this whole tour has been baffling.

I concur. Your first sentence is probably more along the lines of what happened. I'm sure the band wanted to play places like Houston but wound up in...Corpus Christie. Looking back at my list, they did play there in 2005 but it was for Gigantour.
Corpus does get shows. It's just not really a standalone destination or a substitute for Houston. If you're playing 3 dates in Texas, Corpus makes no sense. If you're playing 6, then it's a reasonable spot to hit.

And others here would have better knowledge, but it was one of the Southern Texas cities that actually put DT on the map. Not sure if it was Corpus or Galveston (which would be a halfway viable alternative to Houston), but one of those towns had a DJ that started the initial run with Pull Me Under.

That's a good trivia question. Where's Scotty?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on November 17, 2016, 07:00:49 PM
I found a couple clips of the Encore songs from Grand Prairie on Youtube:


- Pull Me Under
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUoM4vnismc


- As I Am (solo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azHJJp-l4CY


- The Spirit Carries On (solo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zov1SWUOQ0
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 17, 2016, 07:02:53 PM
JLB kicked ass tonight. He hit all the notes, and then some. We rocked so hard he even told us to sing along. The best was when he forgot the lyrics to The beginning of Losing Faythe. My gosh, I can't believe how on for they were. JLB even held the mic out for us to sing the last chorus of PMU

Nice, the band really was on fire this tour.  That's one thing that gets lost in the complaints and other commentary on the tour is that the band was really performing at a high level.  I thought the show in NJ they may have sounded better than ever before.  I guess that's part of them having played it so many times now.

Plus it seemed that they were just presenting a DT show. I guess it helped the video screen wasn't really working

The screen wasn't working?

It seemed like it at parts.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on November 17, 2016, 09:07:21 PM
Observations on my third time seeing The Astonishing live:

Abridged Album:  From what I recall, five songs were nixed: X-Aspect (too bad  :-\), Road to Revolution, Heaven's Cove, Begin Again and Whispers on the Wind.
 
Having Act I end with A New Beginning was perplexing for many because there was no indication that the set would wrap early.  James was long gone from the stage during the instrumental section and JP solo, so once the song ended, and the band ran off stage and the lights went up, a few people were scratching heads.  Awkward.  As far as better pacing, I can understand that argument, but having grown accustom to the song order, the missing tracks were very noticeable to me. 

Our New World:  Lizzy sounded great live! 

Heard rumblings that Astonishing was given space as an encore, but not last night. Hymn, Power Down and Astonishing played consecutively without a break. 

The added "classic" encore gave a much needed boost in energy to the audience, and the band responded in kind.  Didn't expect a mini-solo spot before Spirit, which was nice.  Perhaps the classic encore was trade up from those missing tracks after all.

This was the first time that I noticed that the NOMAC picture kiosk in the lobby was transmitting fan images onto the stage screen during the intermission.  I suppose that's the interactive element that was advertised.  Pretty cool though.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 17, 2016, 09:28:10 PM

This was the first time that I noticed that the NOMAC picture kiosk in the lobby was transmitting fan images onto the stage screen during the intermission.  I suppose that's the interactive element that was advertised.  Pretty cool though.
Huh. Didn't see that at any of my shows. Actually, Sunday night was the first time I even saw one in the lobby.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Another_Won on November 18, 2016, 05:57:38 AM
Observations on my third time seeing The Astonishing live:

Abridged Album:  From what I recall, five songs were nixed: X-Aspect (too bad  :-\), Road to Revolution, Heaven's Cove, Begin Again and Whispers on the Wind.
 
Having Act I end with A New Beginning was perplexing for many because there was no indication that the set would wrap early.  James was long gone from the stage during the instrumental section and JP solo, so once the song ended, and the band ran off stage and the lights went up, a few people were scratching heads.  Awkward.  As far as better pacing, I can understand that argument, but having grown accustom to the song order, the missing tracks were very noticeable to me. 

Our New World:  Lizzy sounded great live! 

Heard rumblings that Astonishing was given space as an encore, but not last night. Hymn, Power Down and Astonishing played consecutively without a break. 

The added "classic" encore gave a much needed boost in energy to the audience, and the band responded in kind.  Didn't expect a mini-solo spot before Spirit, which was nice.  Perhaps the classic encore was trade up from those missing tracks after all.

This was the first time that I noticed that the NOMAC picture kiosk in the lobby was transmitting fan images onto the stage screen during the intermission.  I suppose that's the interactive element that was advertised.  Pretty cool though.
I was wondering how Lizzy did.  Thanks for that.  Did they introduce her?  then she comes out and sings the song the goes off stage?  Wondering how all that went.  What about interactions with the crowd and James?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on November 21, 2016, 07:15:58 PM
Song started as usual, and then James introduced Lizzy.  She was very jazzed to be there, trading smiles and enthusiasm with the band.  After JP's solo she bowed in the "I'm not worthy" gesture.  Personally, I thought her voice was very crisp and on spot.   After the song James invited applause for her, she waved to the crowd and waved thanks to the band.  Lights dimmed and Power Down came right after.

(also, a side note - during the encore James introduced Pull Me Under as a new song appearing on their next album. hahaha).
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on November 21, 2016, 08:03:10 PM
(also, a side note - during the encore James introduced Pull Me Under as a new song appearing on their next album. hahaha).

 :lol I can imagine the reaction from the crowd after that  :laugh:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on November 21, 2016, 08:12:46 PM
I found a couple clips of the Encore songs from Grand Prairie on Youtube:


- Pull Me Under
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUoM4vnismc


- As I Am (solo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azHJJp-l4CY


- The Spirit Carries On (solo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zov1SWUOQ0

Thanks. Checking these out now.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ReaperKK on November 22, 2016, 05:39:58 AM
Just watched the Pull Me Under video, the lighting was really great.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 22, 2016, 08:06:08 AM
Just watched the Pull Me Under video, the lighting was really great.
Yeah, that's one of the big reasons the encore is the way to go. It couldn't be any more different that the strobe-heavy lighting of TA and comes as a nice change. When I saw that I thought "Oh yeah, good lighting can do that."
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 22, 2016, 09:11:16 AM
It's funny how DT's facebook page advertised that PMU fan youtube video.  Shows exactly what DT have done wrong this 2nd leg.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on November 22, 2016, 11:21:06 AM
- Pull Me Under
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUoM4vnismc

That's gonna be a rough I&W tour :(
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on November 22, 2016, 12:04:51 PM
- Pull Me Under
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUoM4vnismc

That's gonna be a rough I&W tour :(

You mean it because of James's voice? Or anything different? I don't think he sounds that bad here, but considering he hast to keep up with the whole IAW album, night after night, that might just destroy him  :'(
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on November 22, 2016, 08:50:16 PM
- Pull Me Under
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUoM4vnismc

That's gonna be a rough I&W tour :(

You mean it because of James's voice? Or anything different? I don't think he sounds that bad here, but considering he hast to keep up with the whole IAW album, night after night, that might just destroy him  :'(

It's not that bad, but also PMU is not the hardest song to sing on that album so we shall see. I hope he doesn't force what isn't there. I'd rather him play it safe and focus on quality as opposed to trying to belt out every note.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on November 25, 2016, 04:56:18 PM
You mean it because of James's voice? Or anything different? I don't think he sounds that bad here, but considering he hast to keep up with the whole IAW album, night after night, that might just destroy him  :'(

I don't know, I mean, this section:

https://youtu.be/yUoM4vnismc?t=205

is pretty brutal. More than half of the notes are off-pitch. And now imagine the full album, 3 nights in a row.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on November 25, 2016, 06:54:42 PM
You mean it because of James's voice? Or anything different? I don't think he sounds that bad here, but considering he hast to keep up with the whole IAW album, night after night, that might just destroy him  :'(

I don't know, I mean, this section:

https://youtu.be/yUoM4vnismc?t=205

is pretty brutal. More than half of the notes are off-pitch. And now imagine the full album, 3 nights in a row.

Well, I really like James and all the work he's done with DT, but, being honest, sometimes I wish he took a couple years off to rest his voice and often wonder what would DT sound like with another singer  :-\
He sounds great in the studio, but live he's the weakest link  :'(
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on November 25, 2016, 08:31:44 PM
I just don't understand why they keep writing stuff for him he obviously won't be able to deliver live.
Another, more current, example:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YShCks2GfFo&feature=youtu.be&t=1180

And it's not just a bad night there, it was exactly like that in Boston too when I saw them live.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on November 25, 2016, 08:46:44 PM
I just don't understand why they keep writing stuff for him he obviously won't be able to deliver live.
Another, more current, example:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YShCks2GfFo&feature=youtu.be&t=1180

And it's not just a bad night there, it was exactly like that in Boston too when I saw them live.

I had seen that video before, but forgot how painful it was  :'(
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on November 25, 2016, 09:07:56 PM
Oh god, I have now developed a morbid fascinating with that section: Here a concert in Chile:

https://youtu.be/sLu0ClOcNQs?t=85
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Adami on November 25, 2016, 09:13:40 PM
Oh god, I have now developed a morbid fascinating with that section: Here a concert in Chile:

https://youtu.be/sLu0ClOcNQs?t=85

That's the one I checked to make sure your earlier video wasn't just a one off bad night.

:(
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on November 25, 2016, 09:33:16 PM
What will they do if they end up recording a DVD? Just overdub it?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Adami on November 25, 2016, 09:36:50 PM
What will they do if they end up recording a DVD? Just overdub it?

I think you're missing the obvious answer here...



Guest vocals by Nicky Spanjaards.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mladen on November 26, 2016, 02:26:56 AM
You guys need to remember him nailing Illumination theory on the previous tour, multiple times. This is the first tour with James SERIOUSLY having problems delivering the vocal melodies the way the are on the studio album. Whatever happened, it's a concern.

I just hope he finds a way to alter the melodies, change them around a bit and keep his voice in tact instead of forcing himself to hit the ridiculously high notes night after night and be done halfway through the tour.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on November 26, 2016, 06:35:53 AM
I just hope he finds a way to alter the melodies, change them around a bit and keep his voice in tact instead of forcing himself to hit the ridiculously high notes night after night and be done halfway through the tour.

When they start playing the whole IAW next year, he might be done halfway through the set  :-X
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on November 26, 2016, 09:46:55 AM
You guys need to remember him nailing Illumination theory on the previous tour, multiple times. This is the first tour with James SERIOUSLY having problems delivering the vocal melodies the way the are on the studio album. Whatever happened, it's a concern.

Nah, sorry have to disagree. There has not been a tour in forever where James didn't struggle. BTFW is pitch-corrected and overdubbed up the wazoo for that reason for example.

DT just needs to stop pretending they're the virile band of the 80s, and write melodies for their singer he can sing live.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 26, 2016, 12:44:47 PM
That section wasn't too bad in Tuscon. The problem is the cameras don't really capture his vocals good. He went pretty high at the end of that part.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on November 26, 2016, 01:54:11 PM
I'm sorry, but no. Frankly, I think you're just not hearing it.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on November 26, 2016, 04:07:27 PM


DT just needs to stop pretending they're the virile band of the 80s, and write melodies for their singer he can sing live.

I will forever disagree with this 100%.  The advantage of the studio over the live environment is you can do things you might not be able to do live, and that includes difficult vocal parts.  In 20 years, almost no one is gonna care if JLB couldn't hit a particular vocal part that one time they saw him sing it live, but they'll still be listening to him kill it in the studio.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on November 26, 2016, 04:52:12 PM


DT just needs to stop pretending they're the virile band of the 80s, and write melodies for their singer he can sing live.

I will forever disagree with this 100%.  The advantage of the studio over the live environment is you can do things you might not be able to do live, and that includes difficult vocal parts.  In 20 years, almost no one is gonna care if JLB couldn't hit a particular vocal part that one time they saw him sing it live, but they'll still be listening to him kill it in the studio.

The problem is that, now, bands make most of their income with concert tickets and merchandising, so, if he can't sing well live, that's going to inevitably affect the band sooner or later :-\

To be fair, James has been struggling with his singing for a while, and people still show up to the concerts and have an amazing experience anyway. I just wish they start considering the fact that he can't sing like he used to in the old days, so they can help him take care of his voice and not force it untill it disappears, just like Gabriel's voice  :D
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on November 26, 2016, 06:55:28 PM
I just wish they start considering the fact that he can't sing like he used to in the old days, so they can help him take care of his voice and not force it untill it disappears, just like Gabriel's voice  :D

That's exactly my point. Only fuzz-haired teenage boys get excited about hearing an F#. Write an interesting melody goddamnit, that's what counts.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on November 26, 2016, 06:59:49 PM


DT just needs to stop pretending they're the virile band of the 80s, and write melodies for their singer he can sing live.

I will forever disagree with this 100%.  The advantage of the studio over the live environment is you can do things you might not be able to do live, and that includes difficult vocal parts.  In 20 years, almost no one is gonna care if JLB couldn't hit a particular vocal part that one time they saw him sing it live, but they'll still be listening to him kill it in the studio.

I'm with you on this Kev. They need to continue to push it in the studio. Think of Led Zeppelin. Plant's live performances were gag worthy.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on November 26, 2016, 08:45:16 PM
  Write an interesting melody goddamnit, that's what counts.

The Astonishing is loaded with great and interesting vocal melodies.


I'm with you on this Kev. They need to continue to push it in the studio. Think of Led Zeppelin. Plant's live performances were gag worthy.

Yep. JLB has always been a mixed bag for me live, but as long as he keeps killing it in the studio, it works for me.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on November 26, 2016, 08:51:20 PM
I really don't care for vocal acrobatics. To come back to Lord Nafaryus, that section is just bad overall vocally. Musically it's really cool actually, but as with so many late DT songs, the vocals seem an afterthought. The guitars were laid down for LN, and then (I guess) James was instructed to just mirror them. He did his best in the studio, but live it's totally falling apart.

And I'm definitely not in the "only recorded media counts" camp. I love Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Queen etc etc. All those artists wrote their music keenly in mind how they would perform it too.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on November 26, 2016, 08:52:35 PM


DT just needs to stop pretending they're the virile band of the 80s, and write melodies for their singer he can sing live.

I will forever disagree with this 100%.  The advantage of the studio over the live environment is you can do things you might not be able to do live, and that includes difficult vocal parts.  In 20 years, almost no one is gonna care if JLB couldn't hit a particular vocal part that one time they saw him sing it live, but they'll still be listening to him kill it in the studio.

I'm with you on this Kev. They need to continue to push it in the studio. Think of Led Zeppelin. Plant's live performances were gag worthy.

That's a good point. Robert Plant was(is) horrible live and it's not like it's something that developed over time. His caterwauling was unbearable to listen to on its own. Add in those off pitch cacophonous sounds and it became worse.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on November 26, 2016, 08:55:34 PM
I guess I'm the only one here who doesn't take solace in other singers' equally poor live performance.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Adami on November 26, 2016, 08:58:43 PM
I guess I'm the only one here who doesn't take solace in other singers' equally poor live performance.

I used to be like you. I remember being really upset when a vocalist I liked was horrible live.

But then I found out that other famous singers were also not so great live and man, did it change my disposition. Now I celebrate the mediocrity.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 26, 2016, 11:09:54 PM
You know. I'm thinking that before they go and make another album. They decided to actually do another mini tour with songs they haven't played as much. Plus, adding the I&W anniversary. Whom knows what greatness that tour will be.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Prog Snob on November 26, 2016, 11:30:46 PM
I guess I'm the only one here who doesn't take solace in other singers' equally poor live performance.

I used to be like you. I remember being really upset when a vocalist I liked was horrible live.

But then I found out that other famous singers were also not so great live and man, did it change my disposition. Now I celebrate the mediocrity.

I agree that there are far more than people think, but it's still not a lot. I suppose when it comes to those operatic metal singers, it's not easy to reproduce flawlessly live every time. Just about every singer I've seen live (and there have been hundreds), the more operatic and powerful their vocal style the more susceptible they seem to be to mistakes.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Adami on November 26, 2016, 11:33:22 PM
I guess I'm the only one here who doesn't take solace in other singers' equally poor live performance.

I used to be like you. I remember being really upset when a vocalist I liked was horrible live.

But then I found out that other famous singers were also not so great live and man, did it change my disposition. Now I celebrate the mediocrity.

I agree that there are far more than people think, but it's still not a lot. I suppose when it comes to those operatic metal singers, it's not easy to reproduce flawlessly live every time. Just about every singer I've seen live (and there have been hundreds), the more operatic and powerful their vocal style the more susceptible they seem to be to mistakes.

Very true indeed! I think Rumby's point, which I sarcastically echoed was excusing it because some others are also bad.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SeRoX on November 27, 2016, 10:54:28 AM


DT just needs to stop pretending they're the virile band of the 80s, and write melodies for their singer he can sing live.

I will forever disagree with this 100%.  The advantage of the studio over the live environment is you can do things you might not be able to do live, and that includes difficult vocal parts.  In 20 years, almost no one is gonna care if JLB couldn't hit a particular vocal part that one time they saw him sing it live, but they'll still be listening to him kill it in the studio.

This. I'm 28 and maybe in my lifetime I can go 2-3 DT concert. But even in my older age I can listen their albums and James still rocks.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on November 27, 2016, 01:51:35 PM
I guess I'm the only one here who doesn't take solace in other singers' equally poor live performance.

That wasn't the point I was making by bringing up Plant.

This was:
In 20 years, almost no one is gonna care if JLB couldn't hit a particular vocal part that one time they saw him sing it live, but they'll still be listening to him kill it in the studio.



 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 28, 2016, 10:35:21 AM
I will forever disagree with this 100%.  The advantage of the studio over the live environment is you can do things you might not be able to do live, and that includes difficult vocal parts.  In 20 years, almost no one is gonna care if JLB couldn't hit a particular vocal part that one time they saw him sing it live, but they'll still be listening to him kill it in the studio.
And I couldn't disagree with this more. First off, people will remember his performances. I recall him nailing everything live 11 years ago at the Score show, and plenty of us think he was the star of that show. And if instead of nailing it he sounded like our regular Thursday night cat strangling, people would remember that just as much. Secondly, there's an honesty to a live performance that the studio lacks. I don't judge performers based on the best of 25 different takes. I judge them based on what they can realistically do. Look no further than Tony Martin and Lars Ulrich for examples of that. Lastly, I'm always a bigger fan of a live performance than a recorded one. There's a uniqueness that makes it special.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on November 28, 2016, 10:43:50 AM
But Lars sucks both live and in the studio  :lol (the current Lars)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Nick on December 08, 2016, 12:50:45 PM
I generally agree with Rumborak here. I think discounting both studio releases and live performances are important, and neither exists (in most cases) void of the other. Dream Theater should, and I'm sure does care about what their live show is like, and ANY band at their age is going to have questions about what their singer can and cannot handle. That's just natural for any aging vocalist.

You gotta think about that, at least to some degree in the studio. At any age, but especially as singers get older, if you push them to the limits of their abilities in the studio now you are dooming them on the road 5-10 years in the future.

A bit of a related story, Shadow Gallery had 0 intentions of ever playing live. When they finally did start preparing for a live show I was told basically that "if we knew we'd ever have to do these vocal melodies live I don't think we'd have ever done them like this". They would alternate practice between full show practice, and a practice of just running through the vocals together.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on December 08, 2016, 01:08:00 PM

You gotta think about that, at least to some degree in the studio. At any age, but especially as singers get older, if you push them to the limits of their abilities in the studio now you are dooming them on the road 5-10 years in the future.


Tell that to Billy Joel   :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Tick on December 10, 2016, 12:45:12 PM
I will forever disagree with this 100%.  The advantage of the studio over the live environment is you can do things you might not be able to do live, and that includes difficult vocal parts.  In 20 years, almost no one is gonna care if JLB couldn't hit a particular vocal part that one time they saw him sing it live, but they'll still be listening to him kill it in the studio.
And I couldn't disagree with this more. First off, people will remember his performances. I recall him nailing everything live 11 years ago at the Score show, and plenty of us think he was the star of that show. And if instead of nailing it he sounded like our regular Thursday night cat strangling, people would remember that just as much. Secondly, there's an honesty to a live performance that the studio lacks. I don't judge performers based on the best of 25 different takes. I judge them based on what they can realistically do. Look no further than Tony Martin and Lars Ulrich for examples of that. Lastly, I'm always a bigger fan of a live performance than a recorded one. There's a uniqueness that makes it special.
Not to boast about myself but I've been singing for 25 years and anything I've ever done in a studio I can replicate 100% live. In fact, its better live that the dryness of a studio recording. I go for notes live  I may have played safe in the studio.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ReaperKK on December 10, 2016, 05:31:19 PM
Tick do you put your voice through as many performances in those years?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on December 10, 2016, 06:39:26 PM
I will forever disagree with this 100%.  The advantage of the studio over the live environment is you can do things you might not be able to do live, and that includes difficult vocal parts.  In 20 years, almost no one is gonna care if JLB couldn't hit a particular vocal part that one time they saw him sing it live, but they'll still be listening to him kill it in the studio.
And I couldn't disagree with this more. First off, people will remember his performances. I recall him nailing everything live 11 years ago at the Score show, and plenty of us think he was the star of that show. And if instead of nailing it he sounded like our regular Thursday night cat strangling, people would remember that just as much. Secondly, there's an honesty to a live performance that the studio lacks. I don't judge performers based on the best of 25 different takes. I judge them based on what they can realistically do. Look no further than Tony Martin and Lars Ulrich for examples of that. Lastly, I'm always a bigger fan of a live performance than a recorded one. There's a uniqueness that makes it special.

While I lean towards Kev on this, I do see both sides. Obviously if JP or JR fucked up, it'd be quite a story.

Oddly, when I go into "DT Mode" I hardly ever go through the studio albums. I almost exclusively go through live albums and the bootlegs. Still, I'm forgiving of James. There are some horrific performances, and they are quite unlistenable. But I'm happy if he survives the show in one piece, and can generally get past a rough vocal patch.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on December 10, 2016, 07:17:34 PM
I will forever disagree with this 100%.  The advantage of the studio over the live environment is you can do things you might not be able to do live, and that includes difficult vocal parts.  In 20 years, almost no one is gonna care if JLB couldn't hit a particular vocal part that one time they saw him sing it live, but they'll still be listening to him kill it in the studio.
And I couldn't disagree with this more. First off, people will remember his performances. I recall him nailing everything live 11 years ago at the Score show, and plenty of us think he was the star of that show. And if instead of nailing it he sounded like our regular Thursday night cat strangling, people would remember that just as much. Secondly, there's an honesty to a live performance that the studio lacks. I don't judge performers based on the best of 25 different takes. I judge them based on what they can realistically do. Look no further than Tony Martin and Lars Ulrich for examples of that. Lastly, I'm always a bigger fan of a live performance than a recorded one. There's a uniqueness that makes it special.

While I lean towards Kev on this, I do see both sides. Obviously if JP or JR fucked up, it'd be quite a story.

Oddly, when I go into "DT Mode" I hardly ever go through the studio albums. I almost exclusively go through live albums and the bootlegs. Still, I'm forgiving of James. There are some horrific performances, and they are quite unlistenable. But I'm happy if he survives the show in one piece, and can generally get past a rough vocal patch.

I kinda agree and disagree with both points  :lol
First, yes, you should use the advantages of the studio to create something greater and experiment much more, kinda what The Aristocrats did with their 3rd album, where they decided to stop thinking if they would be able to perform all the arrangements live just as a trio, and experimented a lot more adding layers of other thins they just can't play live without a backing track or an extra pair of arms  :biggrin: (I didn't like the album that much, though).

However, the live performances will definitely be remembered and, as it has already been said, they should consider which vocal parts are just too hard to hit live and change them or do something else, so James doesn't die trying to get it right every night. If the vocals suck for parts of the show, people will remember that and will leave the concert with a bad opinion on James, and that's never good.
Also, band's make most of their income with touring and merchandising, so they'll undoubtly spend more time touring than recording in the studio, they should be aware of that when they record so they don't dig their grave for the future tours.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Tick on December 17, 2016, 09:51:16 AM
Tick do you put your voice through as many performances in those years?
No not even close.
But my point is some vocalists don't even replicate the music in the studio very well at the very start of a tour. I get that a singer doing 50 dates is going to struggle as the tour goes on.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: LudwigVan on December 22, 2016, 08:40:32 PM
I will forever disagree with this 100%.  The advantage of the studio over the live environment is you can do things you might not be able to do live, and that includes difficult vocal parts.  In 20 years, almost no one is gonna care if JLB couldn't hit a particular vocal part that one time they saw him sing it live, but they'll still be listening to him kill it in the studio.
And I couldn't disagree with this more. First off, people will remember his performances. I recall him nailing everything live 11 years ago at the Score show, and plenty of us think he was the star of that show. And if instead of nailing it he sounded like our regular Thursday night cat strangling, people would remember that just as much. Secondly, there's an honesty to a live performance that the studio lacks. I don't judge performers based on the best of 25 different takes. I judge them based on what they can realistically do. Look no further than Tony Martin and Lars Ulrich for examples of that. Lastly, I'm always a bigger fan of a live performance than a recorded one. There's a uniqueness that makes it special.

While I lean towards Kev on this, I do see both sides. Obviously if JP or JR fucked up, it'd be quite a story.

Oddly, when I go into "DT Mode" I hardly ever go through the studio albums. I almost exclusively go through live albums and the bootlegs. Still, I'm forgiving of James. There are some horrific performances, and they are quite unlistenable. But I'm happy if he survives the show in one piece, and can generally get past a rough vocal patch.

I kinda agree and disagree with both points  :lol
First, yes, you should use the advantages of the studio to create something greater and experiment much more, kinda what The Aristocrats did with their 3rd album, where they decided to stop thinking if they would be able to perform all the arrangements live just as a trio, and experimented a lot more adding layers of other thins they just can't play live without a backing track or an extra pair of arms  :biggrin: (I didn't like the album that much, though).

However, the live performances will definitely be remembered and, as it has already been said, they should consider which vocal parts are just too hard to hit live and change them or do something else, so James doesn't die trying to get it right every night. If the vocals suck for parts of the show, people will remember that and will leave the concert with a bad opinion on James, and that's never good.
Also, band's make most of their income with touring and merchandising, so they'll undoubtly spend more time touring than recording in the studio, they should be aware of that when they record so they don't dig their grave for the future tours.

I can see both sides. It's all about your personal perspective. If you never get a chance to see DT live and only listen to their albums , then you won't care too much if JLB misses a few notes in a live setting. And 25 years down the line, the missed notes and bad pitch won't even matter when all that's left to judge for posterity are the studio albums, unless you're a bootleg geek that hangs on every blemish that's touched up by an overdub.

The extremes in this argument are that if the Beatles cared about reproducing their music in a live concert,they probably never woiu!d have made Sgt Peppers, Revolver or Abbey Road (and it should be noted that they stopped touring at this point anyway). The other extreme is when you get music that is so over produced and over dubbed that you get Milli Vanilli. Then it becomes a question of honesty.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on December 23, 2016, 08:07:54 AM
Yeah, your honesty.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mladen on December 24, 2016, 06:31:52 AM
:clap:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Stewie on December 26, 2016, 12:34:50 PM
I just don't understand why they keep writing stuff for him he obviously won't be able to deliver live.
Another, more current, example:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YShCks2GfFo&feature=youtu.be&t=1180

And it's not just a bad night there, it was exactly like that in Boston too when I saw them live.

I'm glad I'm not the only one around here who thinks this. It's exactly what I was saying in this thread https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=48829.630
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: noxon on December 26, 2016, 12:52:50 PM
Because it's a couple of seconds of a song, and the rest of the album was performed great? Who cares if it doesn't sound perfect or accurate to what the album sounds like. James has been put down by fans since early on. It's not new.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Stewie on December 26, 2016, 01:40:59 PM
Because it's a couple of seconds of a song, and the rest of the album was performed great? Who cares if it doesn't sound perfect or accurate to what the album sounds like. James has been put down by fans since early on. It's not new.

I'm not putting him down - I love JLB's vocals. I love all his studio work with DT, solo albums, and most of his live performances. I'm just saying they should start taking his current vocal limitations into account more from now on, that's all. He strained the entire way thru all three shows I saw on The Astonishing tour, and I felt really bad for him. I know he's talented; he's one of my favorite vocalists. But, to address your point - a lot of people care. When newer fans go to a show, and it ends up not sounding like the album in that regard, it has the potential to diminish their appreciation of the album. It's disappointing. When he struggles and strains to hit the notes, to the point where you can't even make out the lyrics - it's painful. It makes you feel bad for the guy, because, it's not really his fault - he's just at the mercy of his vocal chords, and it's natural for his range to be affected by his aging. Having said that, it really can drag down the rest of the band. Whether or not you agree, that's fine.

I'd also like to point out that I really enjoy The Astonishing album; I think it's brilliant. I just think that moving forward, when they're in the studio writing new material and coming up with melodies for James to sing - they might want to take a step back and consider how feasible it'll be to pull off live, night after night, especially at his age. That's all I'm saying. I am in no way knocking James, or the rest of them. They're my favorite band, and have been for over 20 years. I will continue to go to their shows, and I will continue to buy their music.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Lethean on December 27, 2016, 12:54:23 AM
Sorry your experiences were so bad Stewie. Fortunately mine were the opposite, and I saw more than a few shows on this tour. People were very impressed with JL's performance and more than one commented on how they must have done just what you are suggesting they do - that they did write to his current strengths because of how amazing he sounded.

I think they could have recorded quite a few shows on the tour and been able to put out a great dvd.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mladen on December 27, 2016, 10:19:25 AM
It's true there aren't as many videos from this tour on YouTube, but I haven't found a single one where he sings that section well. Remember, if this were 2014, he would kill it throughout the tour. It's a shame, I've seen Dream Theater enough times live to be able to say he kicked it out of the park plenty of times, there were many flawless, wonderful performances, but something happened to his voice recently and we don't know what it is.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on December 27, 2016, 10:54:32 AM
but something happened to his voice recently and we don't know what it is.

It's called age and lots of touring. I don't think James is the problem, but rather the heavy touring cycle they have, they don't give his voice enough time to properly rest while on tour.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Lethean on December 27, 2016, 12:17:01 PM
I don't think anything happened to his voice at all. I saw a lot of shows and the general consensus ranged from him being very good, to great, to being the mvp of the whole show. No one was scratching their heads wondering what happened to his voice. One comment that has really stayed with me was that the person hoped James was getting paid enough (sort of joking) for bringing JP and JR's vision to life  - they're the ones who wrote it and have the writing credits, but he's the one conveying that to the audience.

Now, maybe that particular section is just tricky for him to sing live for whatever reason, whether he has a hard time hearing what he needs to hear or it's just harder than he thought it would be. I thought some nights sounded fine and some could have been better, but when you're there at the show and he doesn't nail it, it still doesn't come off badly most of the time. For some reason it mostly works.  I find it sad that he did such an amazing job night after night for 2 hours and 10 minutes, had a lot more singing time than usual, just about every one who I spoke to or overheard loved it, and in this thread it seems that people think he did a horrible job on the whole tour, mostly because of one small section. He did an incredible job from what I saw (which was both legs of the US tour).
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on December 27, 2016, 04:19:35 PM
It's true there aren't as many videos from this tour on YouTube, but I haven't found a single one where he sings that section well.

I honestly don't think this part has anything to do with his age or touring.  This part never felt like JLB singing, but supposed to be Nefarius and JLB struggled to do this part.  He probably just should have done something different from the beginning that he could perform consistently live, I agree with that train of thought, but I don't think this part is any indication of JLB struggling overall.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Stewie on December 27, 2016, 08:59:44 PM
but something happened to his voice recently and we don't know what it is.

It's called age and lots of touring. I don't think James is the problem, but rather the heavy touring cycle they have, they don't give his voice enough time to properly rest while on tour.

That, and the fact that most of the vocal melodies they wrote for him on The Astonishing are simply way too high for his current range. I think the bottom line is they simply didn't think it thru. I'm surprised JLB was even okay with it, unless he was being waaaay optimistic.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Lethean on December 27, 2016, 09:08:30 PM
but something happened to his voice recently and we don't know what it is.

It's called age and lots of touring. I don't think James is the problem, but rather the heavy touring cycle they have, they don't give his voice enough time to properly rest while on tour.

That, and the fact that most of the vocal melodies they wrote for him on The Astonishing are simply way too high for his current range. I think the bottom line is they simply didn't think it thru. I'm surprised JLB was even okay with it, unless he was being waaaay optimistic.

I don't think that's correct at all. He did an amazing job on the tour and I think part of that is exactly because the material does fit his range.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Stewie on December 28, 2016, 09:30:06 AM
but something happened to his voice recently and we don't know what it is.

It's called age and lots of touring. I don't think James is the problem, but rather the heavy touring cycle they have, they don't give his voice enough time to properly rest while on tour.

That, and the fact that most of the vocal melodies they wrote for him on The Astonishing are simply way too high for his current range. I think the bottom line is they simply didn't think it thru. I'm surprised JLB was even okay with it, unless he was being waaaay optimistic.

I don't think that's correct at all. He did an amazing job on the tour and I think part of that is exactly because the material does fit his range.

Wow, okay. If you truly believe this, I'm baffled as fuck. Look up any of the youtube videos from this tour. ANY of them. There aren't many to choose from, granted, but no matter - look up "The Gift of Music", for example. Doesn't even matter from which city. On ALL of them he struggles throughout. He is consistently flat, and straining to reach the notes to the point where you can't even understand the lyrics. If you think that sounds "amazing", then you're either if fanboy denial mode, or tone deaf. If he did indeed sound great at the show you attended, fine. But that doesn't mean he did "amazing" on this tour. The fact of the matter is that he did not. And I know for a fact I'm not the only person who thinks this.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mladen on December 28, 2016, 10:36:58 AM
It's called age and lots of touring. I don't think James is the problem, but rather the heavy touring cycle they have, they don't give his voice enough time to properly rest while on tour.
That's possible, but then again, they only spent two months on tour during 2015. Not to mention he was absolutely tremendous throughout pretty much the entire 2014, even near the end.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Lethean on December 28, 2016, 11:25:16 AM
but something happened to his voice recently and we don't know what it is.

It's called age and lots of touring. I don't think James is the problem, but rather the heavy touring cycle they have, they don't give his voice enough time to properly rest while on tour.

That, and the fact that most of the vocal melodies they wrote for him on The Astonishing are simply way too high for his current range. I think the bottom line is they simply didn't think it thru. I'm surprised JLB was even okay with it, unless he was being waaaay optimistic.

I don't think that's correct at all. He did an amazing job on the tour and I think part of that is exactly because the material does fit his range.

Wow, okay. If you truly believe this, I'm baffled as fuck. Look up any of the youtube videos from this tour. ANY of them. There aren't many to choose from, granted, but no matter - look up "The Gift of Music", for example. Doesn't even matter from which city. On ALL of them he struggles throughout. He is consistently flat, and straining to reach the notes to the point where you can't even understand the lyrics. If you think that sounds "amazing", then you're either if fanboy denial mode, or tone deaf. If he did indeed sound great at the show you attended, fine. But that doesn't mean he did "amazing" on this tour. The fact of the matter is that he did not. And I know for a fact I'm not the only person who thinks this.

I don't think that's really necessary. I guess all the others who have posted that he sounded great at their shows are tone deaf as well? 

I suppose I should be more specific - I didn't see them in Europe or South America. I saw both US legs quite a few times, but I believe only after he'd had at least 3, maybe more, shows under his belt. (I've often heard that he seems to need a few to really start sounding good.) And I'll further clarify that by saying he did an amazing job (at not one but many shows) I don't mean to imply perfection. There were a couple things he usually struggled with, and certainly not everything was sung just like the record, but overall, for the course of the show, he sounded very good. No one turned to someone praising him after the show and said, "dude, you must be deaf, he sounded awful." The worst I heard was "he sounded good, but I don't like his voice that much" and that was a rare comment.

So I suppose neither of us has done a scientific study to determine how most attendees felt about his performance. But while you may know for a fact that others felt as you do, I know that many others don't. It's not a "fact" that he was bad the whole tour. I feel like the consensus at the shows I saw was very positive, and online as well - even the MP forum has lots of praise and they're not all JL's biggest fans.

Either way, I think it's a big stretch to say that it's a fact that "most" of the vocal melodies on the album are outside his range. There are a lot of melodies that aren't that high at all.

Side note - we're just talking here. I don't know you and am not trying to cause any offense, and apologize if I have. If we don't end up agreeing, so be it.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Stewie on December 28, 2016, 09:44:45 PM
but something happened to his voice recently and we don't know what it is.

It's called age and lots of touring. I don't think James is the problem, but rather the heavy touring cycle they have, they don't give his voice enough time to properly rest while on tour.

That, and the fact that most of the vocal melodies they wrote for him on The Astonishing are simply way too high for his current range. I think the bottom line is they simply didn't think it thru. I'm surprised JLB was even okay with it, unless he was being waaaay optimistic.

I don't think that's correct at all. He did an amazing job on the tour and I think part of that is exactly because the material does fit his range.

Wow, okay. If you truly believe this, I'm baffled as fuck. Look up any of the youtube videos from this tour. ANY of them. There aren't many to choose from, granted, but no matter - look up "The Gift of Music", for example. Doesn't even matter from which city. On ALL of them he struggles throughout. He is consistently flat, and straining to reach the notes to the point where you can't even understand the lyrics. If you think that sounds "amazing", then you're either if fanboy denial mode, or tone deaf. If he did indeed sound great at the show you attended, fine. But that doesn't mean he did "amazing" on this tour. The fact of the matter is that he did not. And I know for a fact I'm not the only person who thinks this.

I don't think that's really necessary. I guess all the others who have posted that he sounded great at their shows are tone deaf as well? 

I suppose I should be more specific - I didn't see them in Europe or South America. I saw both US legs quite a few times, but I believe only after he'd had at least 3, maybe more, shows under his belt. (I've often heard that he seems to need a few to really start sounding good.) And I'll further clarify that by saying he did an amazing job (at not one but many shows) I don't mean to imply perfection. There were a couple things he usually struggled with, and certainly not everything was sung just like the record, but overall, for the course of the show, he sounded very good. No one turned to someone praising him after the show and said, "dude, you must be deaf, he sounded awful." The worst I heard was "he sounded good, but I don't like his voice that much" and that was a rare comment.

So I suppose neither of us has done a scientific study to determine how most attendees felt about his performance. But while you may know for a fact that others felt as you do, I know that many others don't. It's not a "fact" that he was bad the whole tour. I feel like the consensus at the shows I saw was very positive, and online as well - even the MP forum has lots of praise and they're not all JL's biggest fans.

Either way, I think it's a big stretch to say that it's a fact that "most" of the vocal melodies on the album are outside his range. There are a lot of melodies that aren't that high at all.

Side note - we're just talking here. I don't know you and am not trying to cause any offense, and apologize if I have. If we don't end up agreeing, so be it.

No worries, you didn't offend me. It wasn't my intention to offend you, either. I guess ultimately we both have very different standards/definitions of what doing an amazing job on tour means. From my perspective, it's easy for me to think he hasn't done well when he strained and struggled the whole way thru each show I attended, and when he struggles the same way on every single YouTube video I've watched. Simply because that's all I have to go on. There is no evidence, so to speak, to suggest the contrary. Like I said though, if he sounded fine at the shows you attended, that's great. I'd be curious, however, to watch a video from any of the shows you attended, and see if the singing is actually any better. If not, then our definitions of "good singing" are very different. Again, I'm not hating on JLB. He's one of my favorite vocalists, period. I just think moving forward, when the band is writing new material and coming up with melodies for him to sing, they may want to consider how feasible it'll be to accurately replicate live, night after night, especially at his age. Also, I respect your opinion. If you had a good time at the shows, that's all that really matters. I enjoyed the shows for the most part, but felt really bad for JLB.

It also sucked, because I had friends (and girlfriend) with me who were all brand new to DT, and, needless to say, they all walked out with the totally wrong impression of JLB. They all had the same complaints "off key, flat, straining, struggling, screeching, couldn't understand the lyrics, etc." So, it just sucked, because I essentially had to tell them "I promise, he's much better than that - he usually sounds amazing". All in all, it dragged the rest of the band down, and probably ruined my friends' appreciation of the album. I just feel that DT could easily avoid this kind of thing from happening with potential new fans in the future if they just made sure to write melodies that James can realistically sing at his age.

The same goes for altering original melodies from older material, in efforts to make it easier on his voice. As I've said before, I'd much rather hear older material with altered melodies that are at least in tune and sound great (great pronunciation, articulation, etc.) than hear him try to pull them off as they were originally written and recorded, and it end up being all out of tune and incoherent. There's no shame in altering the original melodies to better suit your current vocal range. People understand that with age, your vocal chords can't do what they once could. I think it's better to embrace your age, make the necessary changes and own it, than to try and deny the reality that you can't hit those notes anymore, and go for it anyway and fail miserably. In other words, if I went to a show, would I be more disappointed if the vocalist sounded awesome, even though he altered the melodies here and there - or would I be more disappointed if he tried to sing it as originally recorded, but sounded terrible throughout? That's all I'm getting at. Again, I guess we just have different perspectives on the matter, and that's okay.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ? on December 29, 2016, 01:07:35 AM
It's called age and lots of touring. I don't think James is the problem, but rather the heavy touring cycle they have, they don't give his voice enough time to properly rest while on tour.
That's possible, but then again, they only spent two months on tour during 2015. Not to mention he was absolutely tremendous throughout pretty much the entire 2014, even near the end.
Yeah, James sounded great in 2014, even on the pro-shot Loud Park footage though he was ill at that show. I wonder what the hell happened to his voice after that tour.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: CB on December 29, 2016, 02:41:11 PM
It's called age and lots of touring. I don't think James is the problem, but rather the heavy touring cycle they have, they don't give his voice enough time to properly rest while on tour.
That's possible, but then again, they only spent two months on tour during 2015. Not to mention he was absolutely tremendous throughout pretty much the entire 2014, even near the end.
Yeah, James sounded great in 2014, even on the pro-shot Loud Park footage though he was ill at that show. I wonder what the hell happened to his voice after that tour.

I think the 2015 summer tour was unfortunate. JLB got really ill (JR called him a "walking pharmacy"), the tour schedule was murderous (a post from MM on his facebook page made me wonder if DT want to kill their drummer) and songs like Afterlife and Metropolis at the beginning of each show didn't help.
I was relieved to hear JLBs voice in perfect shape at the 2 Theater Equation shows I attended in september 2015.
With TA it's strange, some say something bad happened to his voice, some say it's better than ever. The comments from people I talked to at the 2 german shows I attended were very positive.
I don't know anything about vocal technique so I might be wrong, but to me it seems JLB sang TA a bit differently, perhaps because it's a rock opera/metal musical?
It'll be interesting to see what he does with I&W and how he adapts some parts.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on December 29, 2016, 02:49:42 PM
I just think moving forward, when the band is writing new material and coming up with melodies for him to sing, they may want to consider how feasible it'll be to accurately replicate live, night after night, especially at his age.

...

I just feel that DT could easily avoid this kind of thing from happening with potential new fans in the future if they just made sure to write melodies that James can realistically sing at his age.
Well, they wrote the vocal melodies in Another Day and Take the Time as well.  So writing vocal melodies that are impossible to replicate live is nothing new to this band.  And the fact that they are getting ready to embark on a tour that requires their singer to try to replicate both of these in the same show 25 years after the fact, I think, implies that the band do not share your perspective.  :lol



Also, unrelated, but long-standing pet peeve, so don't take this personal:  Their is no such thing as a "vocal chord."
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 29, 2016, 03:25:41 PM
All I can say is that the vast majority of what I've heard throughout the tour is how great James did with this comparatively high amount of singing.

Also, I was at the last night of the show, and he fucking slayed it that night.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Stewie on December 29, 2016, 09:32:53 PM
I just think moving forward, when the band is writing new material and coming up with melodies for him to sing, they may want to consider how feasible it'll be to accurately replicate live, night after night, especially at his age.

...

I just feel that DT could easily avoid this kind of thing from happening with potential new fans in the future if they just made sure to write melodies that James can realistically sing at his age.
Well, they wrote the vocal melodies in Another Day and Take the Time as well.  So writing vocal melodies that are impossible to replicate live is nothing new to this band.  And the fact that they are getting ready to embark on a tour that requires their singer to try to replicate both of these in the same show 25 years after the fact, I think, implies that the band do not share your perspective.  :lol



Also, unrelated, but long-standing pet peeve, so don't take this personal:  Their is no such thing as a "vocal chord."

C'mon bosk, really? He was quite a bit younger for the recording of I&W...lol. You can't counter my argument by saying "well they wrote the vocal melodies for Another Day and Take The Time and he was able to sing it back then!" OBVIOUSLY. Those melodies weren't always impossible. But the guys aren't stupid, either. Surely back then they had to have realized that, eventually, the melodies would need to be altered to suit his vocal cord range (there you go, is that better?). But then again, here we are, almost 2017, and he is struggling probably worse than I've ever heard him before, so, yeah - I'd say the band clearly doesn't share my perspective. You don't have to try and convince me of that. Not to worry though - once he sounds bad enough, they'll come to their senses  ;)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on December 31, 2016, 02:00:23 PM



Also, unrelated, but long-standing pet peeve, so don't take this personal:  Their is no such thing as a "vocal chord."

On the topic of pet peeves . . .
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on December 31, 2016, 03:41:45 PM



Also, unrelated, but long-standing pet peeve, so don't take this personal:  Their is no such thing as a "vocal chord."

On the topic of pet peeves . . .

 :lol

I agree.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on June 27, 2017, 08:53:35 PM
From DT's Facebook:

Quote
Our Images, Words & Beyond Tour is Coming to North America!
 
Look for dates this October through December. The full list of tour dates will be revealed soon
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on June 27, 2017, 10:06:42 PM
It's about time. Didn't they tell us back in December that dates would be announced shortly?  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Progmetty on June 28, 2017, 12:12:10 AM
Very interesting discussion the last two pages from November, sorry I missed it. I'm on the "you don't have to keep your studio efforts at your live performance ability minimum" team.
So on to the news, I've been out of the loop, what's the setlist for that I&W tour? Just I&W in it's entirety?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on June 28, 2017, 08:02:03 AM
It's about time. Didn't they tell us back in December that dates would be announced shortly?  :lol

Yup  :lol

Very interesting discussion the last two pages from November, sorry I missed it. I'm on the "you don't have to keep your studio efforts at your live performance ability minimum" team.
So on to the news, I've been out of the loop, what's the setlist for that I&W tour? Just I&W in it's entirety?

Here's a setlist:

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2017/arenele-romane-bucharest-romania-6be7eaa2.html (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2017/arenele-romane-bucharest-romania-6be7eaa2.html)

I believe it was Bosk, maybe someone else, that hinted DT may change some songs in the first set for the NA tour.  I hope they don't though, unless it's going to change the opener.  I'd rather them play something different personally.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on June 28, 2017, 08:09:17 AM
It's about time. Didn't they tell us back in December that dates would be announced shortly?  :lol

Yup  :lol

Very interesting discussion the last two pages from November, sorry I missed it. I'm on the "you don't have to keep your studio efforts at your live performance ability minimum" team.
So on to the news, I've been out of the loop, what's the setlist for that I&W tour? Just I&W in it's entirety?

Here's a setlist:

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2017/arenele-romane-bucharest-romania-6be7eaa2.html (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2017/arenele-romane-bucharest-romania-6be7eaa2.html)

I believe it was Bosk, maybe someone else, that hinted DT may change some songs in the first set for the NA tour.  I hope they don't though, unless it's going to change the opener.  I'd rather them play something different personally.

I agree on the opener. Personally, I find TDEN to be a total snoozefest once the opening riff is over. I wouldn't be surprised to see them remove TGoM and ONW from the first set, seeing as how poorly received The Astonishing was on their second time through.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on June 28, 2017, 08:12:51 AM
Yea, it's got a sick opening riff but the rest of the song is just not that interesting to me (and I've seen it a few times live now).  However, I think TA songs stay, and I say that just because I think DT is still going to try and support that album a bit.  Maybe they change those songs, but I can't see them abandoning TA songs already.  Those songs are short too so it's not taking up too much set time.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on June 28, 2017, 10:55:51 AM
Man, I can't wait for NA dates! Great news!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: LPMX on June 29, 2017, 08:30:30 AM
I think ITPOE pt. 1 could have been a great opener for that tour instead of TDEN. It hasn't been played since the SC tour, unlike TDEN which have been overplayed IMO, and it has that sick intro.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on June 29, 2017, 08:48:43 AM
I think ITPOE pt. 1 could have been a great opener for that tour instead of TDEN. It hasn't been played since the SC tour, unlike TDEN which have been overplayed IMO, and it has that sick intro.

Agreed, LOVE that song and wish they'd bring it back.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on June 29, 2017, 09:19:42 AM
I think ITPOE pt. 1 could have been a great opener for that tour instead of TDEN. It hasn't been played since the SC tour, unlike TDEN which have been overplayed IMO, and it has that sick intro.

Agreed, LOVE that song and wish they'd bring it back.

May the DT guys hear you! ITPOE pt. 1 would work very well as the opener for this tour. Also, would love to see them replace TBP with STR  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Shooters1221 on June 29, 2017, 11:39:52 AM
I think ITPOE pt. 1 could have been a great opener for that tour instead of TDEN. It hasn't been played since the SC tour, unlike TDEN which have been overplayed IMO, and it has that sick intro.

Agreed, LOVE that song and wish they'd bring it back.

ITPOE Pt. 1 is one of the great album openers in history, IMO, it's up there with Tom Sawyer.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on June 30, 2017, 01:11:29 AM
There are plenty of songs that DT has showcased in Europe, but given no attention in the U.S.  Behind the Veil and Wither come to mind.  I honestly think DT should work those into the first set for the U.S.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on June 30, 2017, 07:33:37 AM
There are plenty of songs that DT has showcased in Europe, but given no attention in the U.S.  Behind the Veil and Wither come to mind.  I honestly think DT should work those into the first set for the U.S.

I upvote this as well
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on June 30, 2017, 07:44:39 AM
Behind the Veil would be awesome.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gmillerdrake on June 30, 2017, 12:14:53 PM
Behind the Veil would be awesome.

....and Surrender to Reason. I don't think they've played Surrender to Reason live yet.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Tick on June 30, 2017, 12:58:11 PM
Behind the Veil would be awesome.

....and Surrender to Reason. I don't think they've played Surrender to Reason live yet.
The Bigger Picture and Surrender to Reason are my 2 favorites from that album, aside from the epic Illumination Theory
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: axeman90210 on June 30, 2017, 01:09:07 PM
I would very much like some Behind the Veil live, please and thank you.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on June 30, 2017, 01:45:08 PM
Looking forward to seeing them in Toronto if/when this tour comes to Canada!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on June 30, 2017, 03:16:32 PM
September 19- Hordern Pavillion in Sydney, Australia
September 20- Palais Theater in Melbourne, Australia

Mangini on his Facebook:
Quote
Hello Australia !! Hello Japan and other fabulous places throughout the Pacific Rim with fabulous people that we'll be announcing !!

People?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on June 30, 2017, 03:50:49 PM
???  Yes, they do have people there.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on June 30, 2017, 04:36:30 PM
Wow, I'm an idiot. I misread his post as having special guests that they'll announce later
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on June 30, 2017, 09:02:08 PM
Wow, I'm an idiot. I misread his post as having special guests that they'll announce later

I did the same thing when first reading that  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 01, 2017, 09:19:30 AM
I would very much like some Behind the Veil live, please and thank you.

They played it at WACKEN in 2015.

Right around the 1hr 4 minute mark....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0fPY9PPB2E
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Architeuthis on July 01, 2017, 10:14:37 AM
Would like to see The Bigger Picture and Behind The Veil on the US tour. Also Octavarium instead of ACOS.    :metal.   Even though ACOS would still be nice..
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on July 01, 2017, 10:23:58 AM
Has there been any official confirmation that there will be changes to the setlist?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 01, 2017, 11:29:29 AM
Has there been any official confirmation that there will be changes to the setlist?

No
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on July 01, 2017, 03:26:53 PM
Has there been any official confirmation that there will be changes to the setlist?

Heck, the dates and cities haven't even been released yet, but it can't hurt to lobby for songs that have been overlooked in the U.S.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on July 01, 2017, 03:33:12 PM
[This space reserved in advance for all the complaints by the Southern states for DT not coming to their city this next cycle when the tour dates are released]


[This other space reserved for the folks in all other cities that went to see The Astonishing live even though they were not crazy about the album, but figured supporting the tour would be beneficial in the future.]
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on July 02, 2017, 05:25:22 PM
[This space reserved in advance for all the complaints by the Southern states for DT not coming to their city this next cycle when the tour dates are released]

Ha! So true. May as well get started...

While I know that these kind of things are outside of the band's control, I think that they'd be crazy not to come through North Carolina again. Their show at DPAC last year was probably 90% full and the crowd loved it.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on July 02, 2017, 05:32:59 PM
[This space reserved in advance for all the complaints by the Southern states for DT not coming to their city this next cycle when the tour dates are released]

More like [This space is reserved to quote Bluehaize]
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Tick on July 03, 2017, 06:09:46 AM
My the time, "tour dates coming soon" are announced I fear the dates will have already happened! :yeahright
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on July 04, 2017, 09:14:34 AM
On Facebook, they keep posting pictures with a caption saying US Dates soon. Whoever runs their Facebook is god-awful at it. They've been saying US dates soon since December  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ReaperKK on July 04, 2017, 12:25:07 PM
On Facebook, they keep posting pictures with a caption saying US Dates soon. Whoever runs their Facebook is god-awful at it. They've been saying US dates soon since December  :lol

My thoughts exactly
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on July 04, 2017, 05:46:27 PM
My the time, "tour dates coming soon" are announced I fear the dates will have already happened! :yeahright

Winter is coming.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 04, 2017, 11:14:48 PM
:soon:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: erwinrafael on July 05, 2017, 10:07:26 PM
DREAM THEATER IS FINALLY COMING TO THE PHILIPPINES DON'T CHANGE THE SETLIST THIS IS PERFECT IF THIS IS THE ONLY TIME THEY WILL EVER COME HERE.

Do I sound excited?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on July 05, 2017, 10:56:38 PM
DREAM THEATER IS FINALLY COMING TO THE PHILIPPINES DON'T CHANGE THE SETLIST THIS IS PERFECT IF THIS IS THE ONLY TIME THEY WILL EVER COME HERE.

Do I sound excited?

Just a little bit  :lol

I would be as excited as you are if they announced a concert here in Peru, but they've only played here once ans I wasn't able to attend, so I have never seen a DT concert in my life  :'(
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: AngelBack on July 06, 2017, 06:34:48 AM
DREAM THEATER IS FINALLY COMING TO THE PHILIPPINES DON'T CHANGE THE SETLIST THIS IS PERFECT IF THIS IS THE ONLY TIME THEY WILL EVER COME HERE.

Do I sound excited?

Happy for you, are you near Quezon City?  I have friends in Pasay City, an hour or so away.  I think one of them will try to make the show.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on July 06, 2017, 06:50:03 PM
Another update. Apparently now we have to go to Bandintown.com to get updates.

For the love of God, just announce them. This is horrible. Even commenters on Facebook are getting mad

Someone needs to tell them, this isn't building hype. It's pissing people off. It would have built hype if they announced it in December when they initially said the dates would be announced. This all building up for a small US tour where they don't hit many cities and have about 10 dates in the New York area. That's what I feel is going to happen
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Progmetty on July 07, 2017, 12:14:11 AM
I remember this happening before announcing the first leg of ADTOE tour.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 07, 2017, 08:18:45 AM
Another update. Apparently now we have to go to Bandintown.com to get updates.

For the love of God, just announce them. This is horrible. Even commenters on Facebook are getting mad

Someone needs to tell them, this isn't building hype. It's pissing people off. It would have built hype if they announced it in December when they initially said the dates would be announced. This all building up for a small US tour where they don't hit many cities and have about 10 dates in the New York area. That's what I feel is going to happen

 :lol saw a lot of people complaining on that last social media post
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Joshgirouard on July 07, 2017, 09:00:41 AM
It's just getting crazy at this point
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 07, 2017, 10:04:26 AM
At first it was kinda funny, now it's just awkward.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: LPMX on July 07, 2017, 11:21:14 AM
Today is indeed the 25th anniversary of the release of I&W. It'd make sense for the dates to be announced today. I'm not holding my breath for that though... :huh:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 07, 2017, 12:09:09 PM
Today is indeed the 25th anniversary of the release of I&W. It'd make sense for the dates to be announced today. I'm not holding my breath for that though... :huh:

Yea I already saw one new post for NA soon today so I doubt it. 

I really think DT has some of the worst social media presence for a band of their size.  For awhile there seemed to be none, but now whoever is running it does a poor job IMO.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 07, 2017, 08:21:12 PM
Yeah whoever is in charge of announcements needs to be changed. They're losing hype delaying the announcements.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on July 07, 2017, 08:53:44 PM
I agree with you guys.  I am not bothered by having to wait since I am a patient person, but the constant "the dates are coming soon" announcements show that whoever handles their FB page does a really piss poor job.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mosh on July 07, 2017, 10:05:47 PM
They should get MP to run the fb.  :hat
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on July 07, 2017, 10:27:23 PM
They should get MP to run the fb.  :hat

 :rollin

"I tried to announce the dates, guys, but I'm trying to avoid the drama."
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on July 07, 2017, 10:49:11 PM
I guess I wouldn't care as much, but why did they post anything back in December. It makes no sense, if Bosk knew anything as to why, then my stance would change. But there's nothing special about this tour, as far as we know. And it's probably not going to be a very long tour. I don't think I've ever seen a band say that a tour will be announced 6 months from when they will be announced

It's when something like this happens that I think: This would never have happened with MP.

Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ReaperKK on July 08, 2017, 05:49:04 AM
I agree with you guys.  I am not bothered by having to wait since I am a patient person, but the constant "the dates are coming soon" announcements show that whoever handles their FB page does a really piss poor job.

This is why I made sure to not be a fan of their page anymore and stop seeing the stupid "dates are coming soon" pics
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 08, 2017, 07:48:55 AM
I think at least some of the reasoning is that a lot of fans were pissed last tour where the dates trickled out so people bought tickets for shows further away from them and then later a concert was announced closer to them.  I think there has to be more to it than that though but I bet that's what's holding up the current announcement.  As for the first announcement back in December... I have no idea.

Also, they did say the tour would be from October through December so it doesn't seem like a small tour, but maybe it ends up being the end of October to the beginning of December with a few November dates  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Tick on July 08, 2017, 09:42:10 AM
I agree with you guys.  I am not bothered by having to wait since I am a patient person, but the constant "the dates are coming soon" announcements show that whoever handles their FB page does a really piss poor job.

This is why I made sure to not be a fan of their page anymore and stop seeing the stupid "dates are coming soon" pics
Well then, allow me to remind you....

North American dates coming soon. Watch for the announcement on Bands in town!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 08, 2017, 10:24:06 AM
Theirs gonna be a major outcry soon.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on July 08, 2017, 11:37:18 AM
Theirs gonna be a major outcry soon.

Resistance is calling tonight?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Architeuthis on July 08, 2017, 01:37:55 PM
Rise up be counted with tickets in sight...
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 08, 2017, 03:17:04 PM
I think at least some of the reasoning is that a lot of fans were pissed last tour where the dates trickled out so people bought tickets for shows further away from them and then later a concert was announced closer to them. 
Not a chance in hell they consider that. Nothing I've seen suggests to me that level of thoughtfulness. Quite the contrary, in fact.

Quote
Also, they did say the tour would be from October through December so it doesn't seem like a small tour, but maybe it ends up being the end of October to the beginning of December with a few November dates  :lol
Seventeen November dates in NY, NJ and Penn, and 1 week each in October and December for the rest of the US.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on July 08, 2017, 03:40:20 PM
Seventeen November dates in NY, NJ and Penn, and 1 week each in October and December for the rest of the US.
:lol

I wouldn't put it past them. The Astonishing US 2nd Leg seemed to be like that

I would say that they are going to announce them once they've posted a picture of all the band members, but they've already posted two pictures of Petrucci with the stupid announcement of tour dates soon
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: CB on July 08, 2017, 04:05:23 PM
And another Facebook post from DT, nice pic of JM but ... this is getting so ridiculous  :lol

Now I'm impatiently awaiting the announcement of the European Tour Dates for 2019 SOON!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Setlist Scotty on July 08, 2017, 10:17:38 PM
It's when something like this happens that I think: This would never have happened with MP.
WHAT?!?!?! DT is better than ever!!! Mike Portnoy WHO!?!?!?!?! How DARE you say that here!!!!!  :rollin
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Progmetty on July 08, 2017, 11:28:17 PM
This took longer when they announced the ADTOE tour dates were "coming soon", we had lots of fun with that back then, I can't be the only one that remembers that? Anybody remember the comic/meme created about it?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on July 09, 2017, 02:09:08 PM
The one they posted today is putting people over the edge.

I know the guys are pretty disconnected from this stuff, but it seems to be doing more harm than good right now. Regardless, the tickets will sell, but people are tuning out right now
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: erwinrafael on July 09, 2017, 08:51:14 PM
I would say that they are going to announce them once they've posted a picture of all the band members, but they've already posted two pictures of Petrucci with the stupid announcement of tour dates soon

Nah, the second Petrucci pic was about linking to the bandsintown website. :p

So you guys just have to wait for that Mike Mangini pic, then maybe a band pic. The dates will be out by the end of the week.  :lol

Meanwhile, I am eagerly obsessing about the start of the sale of tickets here in Manila this coming Saturday.  :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: lucky7 on July 09, 2017, 09:25:31 PM
Ticketmaster presale for Melbourne 10am tomorrow.   :)   Don't know the code word yet .. probably get that at 10.01am  ::)


Not that I am complaining as I have been hanging out for a tour since they last toured our shored in 2014, but it is interesting timing MP announces an OZ tour for November, now we have DT in September! Yippeee  :angel:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 10, 2017, 09:53:36 AM
:soon:

Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: lucky7 on July 10, 2017, 06:49:32 PM
Melbourne, Sept 20. Got Row C, in the Orchestra pretty close to where JP will be on stage...Yipppeee!!!!  May have one for sale soon at cost $162.00AUS..I will list later in the appropriate topic.
Had to buy extra to get good seats.
Damn Ticketmaster, I aged ten years in that transaction!  :) I hope everyone trying got great seats.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 11, 2017, 08:59:49 AM
Melbourne, Sept 20. Got Row C, in the Orchestra pretty close to where JP will be on stage...Yipppeee!!!!  May have one for sale soon at cost $162.00AUS..I will list later in the appropriate topic.
Had to buy extra to get good seats.
Damn Ticketmaster, I aged ten years in that transaction!  :) I hope everyone trying got great seats.
Is DT really charging $162 ($123 US) for a ticket? I get that a lot of that is TM's TT&L, but even $100/ea seems to be well above their station. Is that normal way the hell down there or are DT becoming greedy in their old age?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Tick on July 11, 2017, 09:50:37 AM
Melbourne, Sept 20. Got Row C, in the Orchestra pretty close to where JP will be on stage...Yipppeee!!!!  May have one for sale soon at cost $162.00AUS..I will list later in the appropriate topic.
Had to buy extra to get good seats.
Damn Ticketmaster, I aged ten years in that transaction!  :) I hope everyone trying got great seats.
Is DT really charging $162 ($123 US) for a ticket? I get that a lot of that is TM's TT&L, but even $100/ea seems to be well above their station. Is that normal way the hell down there or are DT becoming greedy in their old age?
I'm thinking that may be a VIP ticket? I paid 150.00 on the Octavarium tour to have a guaranteed ticket in the first 3 rows. Of coarse, I got 3rd row.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mr. Ister on July 11, 2017, 12:14:37 PM
Melbourne, Sept 20. Got Row C, in the Orchestra pretty close to where JP will be on stage...Yipppeee!!!!  May have one for sale soon at cost $162.00AUS..I will list later in the appropriate topic.
Had to buy extra to get good seats.
Damn Ticketmaster, I aged ten years in that transaction!  :) I hope everyone trying got great seats.
Is DT really charging $162 ($123 US) for a ticket? I get that a lot of that is TM's TT&L, but even $100/ea seems to be well above their station. Is that normal way the hell down there or are DT becoming greedy in their old age?
We have been paying for their grandkids' college for the past several years.  They are in the "only for the money" part of their careers.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on July 11, 2017, 12:37:18 PM
Melbourne, Sept 20. Got Row C, in the Orchestra pretty close to where JP will be on stage...Yipppeee!!!!  May have one for sale soon at cost $162.00AUS..I will list later in the appropriate topic.
Had to buy extra to get good seats.
Damn Ticketmaster, I aged ten years in that transaction!  :) I hope everyone trying got great seats.
Is DT really charging $162 ($123 US) for a ticket? I get that a lot of that is TM's TT&L, but even $100/ea seems to be well above their station. Is that normal way the hell down there or are DT becoming greedy in their old age?
I'm thinking that may be a VIP ticket? I paid 150.00 on the Octavarium tour to have a guaranteed ticket in the first 3 rows. Of coarse, I got 3rd row.

I paid $250 for the 8th row at RCMH (filming), and that was just for the show. No M&G or anything. If DT did stuff on stage, paying $100+ for a ticket might be worth it to me, but they all kind of just stand there with the exception of a keytar solo. I don't mind sitting further away and just watching.

It's possible they took a hit on the second run of TA in the states and need to play catch up.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 11, 2017, 01:05:54 PM
I think the face value ticket I got for the first row (no M&G or any package, just ticket) was around $90 for the NJ show last fall on the second leg of the TA US tour.  Was around $80 for the 20-30th row at RCMH.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 11, 2017, 02:11:13 PM
I don't recall what face was on the tickets I bought officially, but it sure wasn't $100. When they played Dallas I picked up a scalper ticket for $18 which was inside of 5 rows.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Tick on July 11, 2017, 02:37:45 PM
I paid 100 at the Beacon in NYC for Progressive Nation 09.
Wasn't worth it.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 11, 2017, 02:45:27 PM
I paid 100 at the Beacon in NYC for Progressive Nation 09.
Wasn't worth it.

I was there, in the last row of the Beacon.  It was $50 for that seat.  Had a great time at that show.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on July 11, 2017, 02:57:17 PM
Can everyone please stop posting in this thread until there are dates?!

Every time I refresh and see it updated I open it and  :censored


Thankyouverymuch!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 11, 2017, 03:02:13 PM
:soon:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 11, 2017, 03:03:38 PM
Can everyone please stop posting in this thread until there are dates?!

Every time I refresh and see it updated I open it and  :censored


Thankyouverymuch!

Don't you know to check bandsintown for dates?!  SOON  :rollin
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Setlist Scotty on July 11, 2017, 03:04:59 PM
Hey Tim - just so you know, they sent out an e-mail announcing that soon there will be an announcement to let us know that tour dates will still be announced soon. You wanted to know that, right?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on July 11, 2017, 03:08:43 PM
DTF never disappoints. I mean it does, but it doesn't. :lol

Fuck you all!!! :rollin
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 11, 2017, 03:09:48 PM
 :rollin

It's bad when DT and DTF are now trolling you for dates
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Setlist Scotty on July 11, 2017, 03:11:14 PM
DTF never disappoints. I mean it does, but it doesn't. :lol

Fuck you all!!! :rollin
You're welcome...?  :-*
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on July 11, 2017, 03:20:08 PM
I love you guys!

 :natalieportman:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: lucky7 on July 11, 2017, 06:39:33 PM
Melbourne, Sept 20. Got Row C, in the Orchestra pretty close to where JP will be on stage...Yipppeee!!!!  May have one for sale soon at cost $162.00AUS..I will list later in the appropriate topic.
Had to buy extra to get good seats.
Damn Ticketmaster, I aged ten years in that transaction!  :) I hope everyone trying got great seats.
Is DT really charging $162 ($123 US) for a ticket? I get that a lot of that is TM's TT&L, but even $100/ea seems to be well above their station. Is that normal way the hell down there or are DT becoming greedy in their old age?

Yes, that is the price of the ticket only, no meet and greet.... That will be an extra $263 AUS for Platinum which means with extras and photo, or an extra $131.50 AUS for Gold with extras no photo.
I am going to MP in November, I believe that was $250 for what looks like a smaller venue, so I am guessing standing room only and meet and greet.
Yes, us Aussies when we do get any band, singer to come to our shores, it does not come cheap.
I still prefer how Joe Satriani does it, he sells a package ticket and meet and greet, still not cheap so for me that has meant front row every time...
I believe our tickets for Melbourne ranged from just under $100 to the $162 .. which is less the cost of them taking my booking add on another $5.
But I do feel bad for all the fans in WA, SA, QLD and NZ missing out on dates this tour. Not to mention the Southern States of US, I am in New Orleans from Feb 15-24 next year, so I am secretly hoping they tour then... hopefully dates are announced soon.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Tick on July 12, 2017, 08:19:36 AM
I paid 100 at the Beacon in NYC for Progressive Nation 09.
Wasn't worth it.

I was there, in the last row of the Beacon.  It was $50 for that seat.  Had a great time at that show.
I had 7th row but it was not enough of DT for the money. I did have a good time though .
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on July 12, 2017, 09:31:49 AM
My uneducated, speculative sense on why their ticket prices are so high is that they've determined it's the best way to make as much money as possible.

Does that mean that shows will be less full? Sure. Along the same lines, does booking zillions of shows in a row mean that they will be less full? Sure. But management probably knows it's the most profitable avenue, so they go that route, even if it's a morale killer to come nowhere close to ever selling out.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 12, 2017, 09:38:15 AM
Isn't pricing a promoter thing? 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on July 12, 2017, 12:59:32 PM
Haven't had a new picture in awhile. They must have heard our complaints and now just aren't gonna tell us when they are coming to the US
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 12, 2017, 02:25:44 PM
Haven't had a new picture in awhile. They must have heard our complaints and now just aren't gonna tell us when they are coming to the US

or not  :lol  Like what does "soon" mean?  To me it means within the next week or two.  It's been past that (just going by the latest rounds of promotion, if I consider the first round last December then yea it's far from soon).
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on July 12, 2017, 02:30:52 PM
Last week, I thought a band member per day, dates announced on Friday. You know what would have been the best day to announce the dates? The 25th anniversary of Images and Words!

"Hey, today's the 25th Anniversary of Images and Words and here's another special treat for our US fans. North American tour dates!"
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on July 12, 2017, 07:59:34 PM
We're fast approaching the 25th anniversary of the first post teasing the U.S. tour dates.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on July 12, 2017, 08:10:52 PM
We're fast approaching the 25th anniversary of the first post teasing the U.S. tour dates.
:lol



We're fast approaching the moment I stick a needle in my eye!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: erwinrafael on July 12, 2017, 08:33:01 PM
I don't recall what face was on the tickets I bought officially, but it sure wasn't $100. When they played Dallas I picked up a scalper ticket for $18 which was inside of 5 rows.

Tickets of US acts in this part of the world is really more expensive given the risks of travel, the logistics, etc. Megadeth just played here and the price range is just slightly below DT and they played 14 songs only compared to DT's two and a half hour show.

Why GREED is the first thing that comes to mind of some people without considering the economics of playing shows halfway around the world, I do not understand.

EDIT: With still two days left for the pre-sale reserved for the fans who made the petition to bring Dream Theater to the Philippines, the seats at the two cheapest sections are alreadys old out. It looks like I would not be able to watch the show because the seats would most likely sell out when the regular sale opens because I do not have internet access on that day. :( Oh well, it's nice seeing a lot of love for the band from this part of the world.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Tick on July 14, 2017, 09:34:19 AM
Hey TAC....

Tour dates are coming soon!

Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on July 14, 2017, 09:36:59 AM
Hey Tick....

Ass kicking coming soon!

 ;D
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 14, 2017, 10:04:58 AM
:soon:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: erwinrafael on July 14, 2017, 08:27:41 PM
25 minutes after the start of the regular sale of tickets for the DT concert here in the Philippines, and the venue is already 70% full. I am so happy for the band.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Setlist Scotty on July 17, 2017, 11:46:03 PM
Hey Tim, according to the website
Quote
North American Tour Dates Coming Soon

Just a reminder in case you forgot!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Architeuthis on July 18, 2017, 01:37:37 AM
The tour dates will be announced sooner now than yesterday.  :azn:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 18, 2017, 07:26:34 AM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19989408_10154569727622181_5866404035858597341_n.jpg?oh=2ed2c2f5a5261db3b281a350a33d2de1&oe=59F32547)

Quote
Amazing colors from the Images, Words & Beyond tour. US tour details soon!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bl5150 on July 18, 2017, 07:36:40 AM
Tix just went on sale in Australia - just the concert I've been waiting for but $160 for a decent seat?   Can't do it unfortunately  :-\
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 18, 2017, 08:11:50 AM
Soon...

But don't forget about Jelly Jam.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 18, 2017, 08:17:50 AM
Tix just went on sale in Australia - just the concert I've been waiting for but $160 for a decent seat?   Can't do it unfortunately  :-\

Probably because they are only doing 2 shows down there. That's a lot of cost to ship the gear, crew, and band down for only 2 shows.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Tick on July 18, 2017, 09:32:30 AM
soon
so͞on/Submit
adverb
1.
in or after a short time.
"everyone will soon know the truth"
synonyms:   shortly, presently, in the near future, before long, in a little while, in a minute, in a moment, in an instant, in a bit, in the twinkling of an eye, in no time, before you know it, any minute (now), any day (now), by and by; More
2.
used to indicate one's preference in a particular matter.
"I'd just as soon Tim did it"
synonyms:   rather, preferably, by preference, by choice, more willingly, more readily
"I would sooner stay"
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on July 18, 2017, 11:45:27 AM
Soon...

But don't forget about Jelly Jam.

Hey, I'm seeing them in Toronto!!! Can't wait... it'll be weird to see JM on stage without DT.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Architeuthis on July 18, 2017, 07:09:51 PM
 Attention to all planets on the solar federation, we have-SOON control, we have-SOON control..
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on July 18, 2017, 08:34:24 PM
Attention to all planets on the solar federation, we have-SOON control, we have-SOON control..

 :rollin :rollin :rollin

:clap:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Grappler on July 18, 2017, 09:57:14 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKJiJcaWEAEhBCK.jpg)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on July 19, 2017, 11:03:45 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/tzHn7A5mohSfe/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Architeuthis on July 19, 2017, 05:33:44 PM
We'll meet again (on tour) my friend, someday SSOOOOOOOOON!!!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 21, 2017, 09:27:48 AM
By this point, I am expecting some grand announcement with the tour dates.. Like a mega video shoot of one of the shows (In Los Angeles of course) or some shit.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 21, 2017, 10:51:48 AM
By this point, I am expecting some grand announcement with the tour dates.. Like a mega video shoot of one of the shows (In Los Angeles of course) or some shit.

As someone said before, it'll likely be a short tour with the majority of the dates in the northeast  :lol SOON
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on July 21, 2017, 11:08:42 AM
As someone said before, it'll likely be a short tour with the majority of the dates in the northeast  :lol SOON
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

All of these dumb posts about tour dates coming soon is doing nothing but creating future disappointment
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ReaperKK on July 21, 2017, 11:17:33 AM
By this point, I am expecting some grand announcement with the tour dates.. Like a mega video shoot of one of the shows (In Los Angeles of course) or some shit.

As someone said before, it'll likely be a short tour with the majority of the dates in the northeast  :lol SOON
that's that I'm expecting.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Architeuthis on July 21, 2017, 11:31:59 AM
No way man!  They will be heading to the Pacific Northwest......SOON!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 22, 2017, 08:22:23 AM
It'll be my birthday by the time they release the dates.

Buts lets look at the Philippines. They announced dates on July 6th (well the first post on here is) and the show is Sept. 25th. So maybe at the beginning of August.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on July 23, 2017, 02:07:29 PM
True story:

So yesterday the TAC's were driving home from a cookout, and my oldest son, who is obsessed with my wife's car getting an oil change, asked her the daily question. "Mom, when is your car getting an oil change?".

Her answer? "Soon".


I started chuckling to myself as I thought of this thread.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Architeuthis on July 23, 2017, 02:10:21 PM
 :rollin
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 23, 2017, 02:57:59 PM
TAC has a trigger
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 24, 2017, 11:49:09 AM
 :lol

"Make sure you don't go anywhere this Wednesday!"

^ from DT's facebook

SOON
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Progmetty on July 24, 2017, 05:11:17 PM
If I managed that fb page, come Wednesday I'd soooooooooooooooooooo post another band picture with "Soon" on it. Cause at some point you gotta embrace the trollence cause it becomes too good to turn back.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on July 24, 2017, 06:45:14 PM
If I managed that fb page, come Wednesday I'd soooooooooooooooooooo post another band picture with "Soon" on it. Cause at some point you gotta embrace the trollence cause it becomes too good to turn back.

 :rollin
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on July 24, 2017, 08:20:20 PM
Oh no...I was gonna go to work on Wednesday, but now I'll have to call in sick...
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mladen on July 24, 2017, 11:54:17 PM
Imagine if they only released several tour dates and wrote "the rest is coming soon."
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 25, 2017, 04:51:11 AM
Seriously, after all this soon hype, Wednesday hopefully should be a full NA tour announcement. Anything short will be close to social media suicide.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: jingle.boy on July 25, 2017, 05:46:18 AM
It would seem both LiveNation and Ticketmaster have jumped the gun a bit... they are both listing "An Evening with Dream Theater"... Boston at the Orpheum on 11/15/17.  Presale starts Thursday 10am.

Damn... and I really meant to come in here only to troll TAC, but seems as though I'm doing the exact opposite!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 25, 2017, 07:18:57 AM
It would seem both LiveNation and Ticketmaster have jumped the gun a bit... they are both listing "An Evening with Dream Theater"... Boston at the Orpheum on 11/15/17.  Presale starts Thursday 10am.

Damn... and I really meant to come in here only to troll TAC, but seems as though I'm doing the exact opposite!

 :lol Looks like the only date posted so far though. Jump the gun on some more dates Ticketmaster!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 25, 2017, 07:21:23 AM
I guess that means the NYC date should be close to November 15th.  SOON
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on July 25, 2017, 07:33:48 AM
It would seem both LiveNation and Ticketmaster have jumped the gun a bit... they are both listing "An Evening with Dream Theater"... Boston at the Orpheum on 11/15/17.  Presale starts Thursday 10am.

Damn... and I really meant to come in here only to troll TAC, but seems as though I'm doing the exact opposite!



You bitches will get the rest of your dates........







SOON!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on July 25, 2017, 02:59:06 PM
The Orpheum  :'(

So many good venues in Boston, why do they keep returning to the Orpheum.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 25, 2017, 03:13:19 PM
The Orpheum  :'(

So many good venues in Boston, why do they keep returning to the Orpheum.
Seems that in some cities they play whatever is available, and in others marry themselves to a particular venue and refuse to budge, no matter how impractical it is. I've long been of the opinion that their stubbornness regarding venues is part of the reason promoters don't book them outside of the NY/NJ/Penn area. I guess just be happy they're willing to play a venue in your town that promoters will actually book.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on July 25, 2017, 03:16:03 PM
Do you think it's a stubbornness about the actual venues, or is it more promoter related?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 25, 2017, 03:20:08 PM
What's bad about the Orpheum?  I know nothing of the place so just wondering.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on July 25, 2017, 03:38:19 PM
What's bad about the Orpheum?  I know nothing of the place so just wondering.

It's old and grungy. Plus, it's tough to find parking. But as far as seeing a concert there, all sightlines are excellent. The Opera House was nice enough (cleaner), but honestly, I'd rather see them at the Orpheum.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 25, 2017, 07:08:16 PM
Do you think it's a stubbornness about the actual venues, or is it more promoter related?
I think it's the same thing. They could easily get booked in Dallas at any number of venues that match their draw. For TA they barely cracked 1k people in a modern concert hall built for 6,900. The placed was booked at its smallest configuration of 1900 and it was still sparse. Would you want to book them there again? In the meantime you've got 1-2 seat venues here, some of which are exactly the sorts of places they otherwise like to play. I don't have much knowledge on how concert promotion works, but I can't believe there's nobody that would book them to play a normal sized, less expensive venue.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on July 25, 2017, 10:32:56 PM
Played with my heart. The picture they posted said Albuquerque, MN. I saw MN and got really excited.

That's too bad that they aren't coming to Minnesota
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: geeeemo on July 25, 2017, 10:34:23 PM
The NA tour has been posted! :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on July 25, 2017, 10:37:55 PM
10/25 Oakland, CA Fox Theater
10/26 Los Angeles, CA The Wiltern
10/28 Phoenix, AZ Celebrity Theatre
10/29 ABQ, NM Kiva Auditorium
10/31 Denver, CO Paramount Theater
11/2 Wichita, KS Orpheum Theatre
11/3 Chicago, IL Chicago Theater
11/4 Peoria, IL Peoria Civic Center
11/6 Cincinnati, OH Taft Theater
11/8 Pittsburgh, PA Palace Theatre
11/9 Detroit, MI The Fillmore
11/10 Buffalo, NY Rapids Theatre
11/12 Toronto, ONT Sony Centre
11/14 Albany, NY The Palace Theater
11/15 Boston, MA Orpheum Theatre
11/16 New York, NY Beacon Theater
11/18 Asbury, Park, NJ Paramount Theater
11/19 Philadelphia, PA Merriam Theatre
11/27 Baltimore, MD The Lyric
11/28 Raleigh, NC Memorial Auditorium
11/29 Nashville, TN War Memorial Aud.
12/1 Austin, TX Bass Hall
12/2 Dallas, TX The Pavilion
12/3 Houston, TX Cullen PAC
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: erwinrafael on July 25, 2017, 10:48:17 PM
So much for the prediction of no South venues. That s why they are holding on the dates.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on July 25, 2017, 10:53:35 PM
Well, at least only a 1/3 of the tour is in the NY area  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 25, 2017, 11:03:20 PM
I'm fucking shutting myself. And jumping with glee like a school girl....Fuck yes Albuquerque.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: countoftuscany42 on July 25, 2017, 11:19:25 PM
I hate how its become the norm for ticket sales to begin literally the next day after a tour announcement, a couple days to a week to plan my finances would have been super great  :facepalm:
that being said, can't wait for the Wiltern show! Maybe ill swing the Fox Theatre show as well..
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 25, 2017, 11:25:36 PM
That's a huge tour by their standards. And they found a new place to play, although an even stranger choice. Seeing DT outdoors just seems odd.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 25, 2017, 11:27:35 PM
I hope they keep The Bigger Picture.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Adami on July 25, 2017, 11:27:50 PM
That's a huge tour by their standards. And they found a new place to play, although an even stranger choice. Seeing DT outdoors just seems odd.

I've seen DT outdoors. It's actually pretty cool. Gives a little life to their show.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Architeuthis on July 26, 2017, 03:48:06 AM
WHAT?  No dates in or near Seattle or in the PNW???
Hopefully the whole itinerary isn't posted yet.....
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ReaperKK on July 26, 2017, 04:54:08 AM
Not sure if I'm willing to drive to Raleigh on a Tuesday to see this.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Tick on July 26, 2017, 06:35:38 AM
No Connecticut date. The Oakdale is such a great venue. Perhaps they should have skipped The Astonishing there. Probably didn't make them look good attendance wise.
November 16th is the NYC date. Don't know if I really want to do that on a Thursday night.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 26, 2017, 07:01:36 AM
Asbury Park on a Saturday night is looking very good, plus maybe I go into NYC the Thursday before.

So does anyone know the presale code for today?  I find clicking the link for more info on their website doesn't lead to anymore info about purchasing tickets.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on July 26, 2017, 07:02:44 AM
No Connecticut date. The Oakdale is such a great venue. Perhaps they should have skipped The Astonishing there. Probably didn't make them look good attendance wise.
November 16th is the NYC date. Don't know if I really want to do that on a Thursday night.

I shake my fist in anger with you. They used to play the Oakdale a lot and then stopped in 2009. I was amazed to see them back with The Astonishing, but I feared that the low attendance would just reinforce why they hadn't been there for the 7 years prior. Super bummed. I get that we're fortunate enough to have like 6 shows within a 3 or 4 hours driving distance and some people need a flight to get to the nearest show, but still.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: newdull on July 26, 2017, 07:04:33 AM
Awesome!!

"Pittsburgh", aka Greensburg, PA @ The Palace Theatre.  *Love* this venue.  It'll be my 3rd time seeing them there. :metal :metal :metal

(and not too far of a drive for me ;D)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 26, 2017, 07:05:26 AM
Awesome!!

"Pittsburgh", aka Greensburg, PA @ The Palace Theatre.  *Love* this venue.  It'll be my 3rd time seeing them there. :metal :metal :metal

(and not too far of a drive for me ;D)

I'll be there for sure!!! Pumped for the tour!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: axeman90210 on July 26, 2017, 07:08:31 AM
Nice, I'll definitely be at the NYC show and will be considering Asbury and/or Philly as well since they're on a weekend :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Tick on July 26, 2017, 07:16:03 AM
No Connecticut date. The Oakdale is such a great venue. Perhaps they should have skipped The Astonishing there. Probably didn't make them look good attendance wise.
November 16th is the NYC date. Don't know if I really want to do that on a Thursday night.

I shake my fist in anger with you. They used to play the Oakdale a lot and then stopped in 2009. I was amazed to see them back with The Astonishing, but I feared that the low attendance would just reinforce why they hadn't been there for the 7 years prior. Super bummed. I get that we're fortunate enough to have like 6 shows within a 3 or 4 hours driving distance and some people need a flight to get to the nearest show, but still.
I know I'm spoiled being in Connecticut because I'm between Boston and NYC, but I'm still gonna bitch. The Connecticut show is super easy on a work night. NYC, not so much. Plus the Oakdale is as good a venue as there is. Not to mention, there are other suitable venues in CT they could play. The Waterbury Palace, College Street in New Haven, Ridgefield Playhouse among them.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Bytor62 on July 26, 2017, 07:18:13 AM
I am interested in Baltimore. Where can I get the presale date? Don't see it anywhere!!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 26, 2017, 07:21:31 AM
I am interested in Baltimore. Where can I get the presale date? Don't see it anywhere!!

Good question. Presale starts when? Today?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Bytor62 on July 26, 2017, 07:23:58 AM
I am interested in Baltimore. Where can I get the presale date? Don't see it anywhere!!

Good question. Presale starts when? Today?

From the DT website:
Presale tickets for select headline shows will be available beginning Wednesday July 26th, 10 AM (local time), followed by a public onsale July 28th, with the remainder of the presales launching one week later, August 2nd, with a public onsales of August 4th.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on July 26, 2017, 07:33:24 AM
No Connecticut date. The Oakdale is such a great venue. Perhaps they should have skipped The Astonishing there. Probably didn't make them look good attendance wise.
November 16th is the NYC date. Don't know if I really want to do that on a Thursday night.

I shake my fist in anger with you. They used to play the Oakdale a lot and then stopped in 2009. I was amazed to see them back with The Astonishing, but I feared that the low attendance would just reinforce why they hadn't been there for the 7 years prior. Super bummed. I get that we're fortunate enough to have like 6 shows within a 3 or 4 hours driving distance and some people need a flight to get to the nearest show, but still.
I know I'm spoiled being in Connecticut because I'm between Boston and NYC, but I'm still gonna bitch. The Connecticut show is super easy on a work night. NYC, not so much. Plus the Oakdale is as good a venue as there is. Not to mention, there are other suitable venues in CT they could play. The Waterbury Palace, College Street in New Haven, Ridgefield Playhouse among them.

I'd shit myself with excitement if they played The Palace. How big is The Bushnell compared to The Oakdale?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: jingle.boy on July 26, 2017, 07:34:48 AM
I am interested in Baltimore. Where can I get the presale date? Don't see it anywhere!!

Good question. Presale starts when? Today?

Boston is still the only event listed on Ticketbastard and LiveNation.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Joshgirouard on July 26, 2017, 07:35:28 AM
I can't find any info about the Toronto show either . Sony centre doesn't even have it listed in their events calendar . I'm really hoping most of the dates are next week so lots of us can prepare to snag some decent tickets
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 26, 2017, 07:47:37 AM
I am interested in Baltimore. Where can I get the presale date? Don't see it anywhere!!

Good question. Presale starts when? Today?

Boston is still the only event listed on Ticketbastard and LiveNation.

The link for all the dates on DT's website go to here https://soundrink.com/#/tour/dream-theater (https://soundrink.com/#/tour/dream-theater) which has no information about any of the US dates. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Shooters1221 on July 26, 2017, 07:58:33 AM
Awesome!!

"Pittsburgh", aka Greensburg, PA @ The Palace Theatre.  *Love* this venue.  It'll be my 3rd time seeing them there. :metal :metal :metal

(and not too far of a drive for me ;D)

I'll be there for sure!!! Pumped for the tour!





Me too...Can't wait!!!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: brucknerdoc on July 26, 2017, 08:08:31 AM
The SoundRink site went live at 10am EST for the the Boston date, along with Atlanta and Philly - NYC still listed as "coming soon"

Bummed about CT too...
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Tick on July 26, 2017, 08:12:13 AM
No Connecticut date. The Oakdale is such a great venue. Perhaps they should have skipped The Astonishing there. Probably didn't make them look good attendance wise.
November 16th is the NYC date. Don't know if I really want to do that on a Thursday night.

I shake my fist in anger with you. They used to play the Oakdale a lot and then stopped in 2009. I was amazed to see them back with The Astonishing, but I feared that the low attendance would just reinforce why they hadn't been there for the 7 years prior. Super bummed. I get that we're fortunate enough to have like 6 shows within a 3 or 4 hours driving distance and some people need a flight to get to the nearest show, but still.
I know I'm spoiled being in Connecticut because I'm between Boston and NYC, but I'm still gonna bitch. The Connecticut show is super easy on a work night. NYC, not so much. Plus the Oakdale is as good a venue as there is. Not to mention, there are other suitable venues in CT they could play. The Waterbury Palace, College Street in New Haven, Ridgefield Playhouse among them.

I'd shit myself with excitement if they played The Palace. How big is The Bushnell compared to The Oakdale?
Never been to the Bushnell but the refurbished Palace Theater in New Haven is now College Street theater. Its a 2000 seat hall which is the perfect size for DT.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 26, 2017, 08:13:54 AM
So this is terrible

For NJ, you can't even pic your seats.  They are assigned automatically based on a tier of tickets:

Quote
Platinum VIP Package - $200.00
One (1) Reserved Seated Ticket
Exclusive Meet and Greet with the Members of Dream Theater
Personal Photograph with the Band
Signing Session with the Band (limit of 2 items per session)
Limited Edition Collectible Tour Poster
Collectible Dream Theater Meet and Greet Laminate and A Special Tour Gift
*Seats and rows will be assigned in order of which it was placed. We will assign seats up to 2 weeks prior to the concert or once a date has sold out of VIP.

**ALL SALES ARE IN USD**

PLEASE NOTE: All items are picked up day of show at the merch table. Tickets ARE SHIPPED FOR THIS DATE.


Max 4 per Transaction
Ticket Type

Quantity
 ADD TO CART
Presale Ticket - $39.00
One (1) Reserved Seated Ticket (in Rear Orchestra or Balcony)
PLEASE NOTE: ALL TICKETS ARE SHIPPED. Tickets will be delivered up to 2 weeks prior to your concert. All tickets are assigned on a first come first serve basis and will be assigned once a date is sold out or we go off sale.


Max 6 per Transaction
Ticket Type

Quantity
 ADD TO CART
Gold VIP Package - $100.00
One (1) Reserved Seated Ticket
Limited Edition Collectible Tour Poster
Collectible Dream Theater Meet and Greet Laminate and A Special Tour Gift
*Seats and rows will be assigned in order of which it was placed. We will assign seats up to 2 weeks prior to the concert or once a date has sold out of VIP.

**ALL SALES ARE IN USD**

PLEASE NOTE: All items are picked up day of show at the merch table. Tickets ARE SHIPPED FOR THIS DATE.

I guess I'll just buy a cheap ticket then because I don't want to risk paying the 100 bucks and getting a seat I don't like?  Or actually, I don't think I'm buying a ticket at all today.  I don't like this at all.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Serpentor on July 26, 2017, 08:17:50 AM
Agreed, same with Boston show,  regular tix are 84 or 64.  Not worth the chance of having crappy view of stage
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 26, 2017, 08:18:59 AM
So this is terrible

For NJ, you can't even pic your seats.  They are assigned automatically based on a tier of tickets:

Quote
Platinum VIP Package - $200.00
One (1) Reserved Seated Ticket
Exclusive Meet and Greet with the Members of Dream Theater
Personal Photograph with the Band
Signing Session with the Band (limit of 2 items per session)
Limited Edition Collectible Tour Poster
Collectible Dream Theater Meet and Greet Laminate and A Special Tour Gift
*Seats and rows will be assigned in order of which it was placed. We will assign seats up to 2 weeks prior to the concert or once a date has sold out of VIP.

**ALL SALES ARE IN USD**

PLEASE NOTE: All items are picked up day of show at the merch table. Tickets ARE SHIPPED FOR THIS DATE.


Max 4 per Transaction
Ticket Type

Quantity
 ADD TO CART
Presale Ticket - $39.00
One (1) Reserved Seated Ticket (in Rear Orchestra or Balcony)
PLEASE NOTE: ALL TICKETS ARE SHIPPED. Tickets will be delivered up to 2 weeks prior to your concert. All tickets are assigned on a first come first serve basis and will be assigned once a date is sold out or we go off sale.


Max 6 per Transaction
Ticket Type

Quantity
 ADD TO CART
Gold VIP Package - $100.00
One (1) Reserved Seated Ticket
Limited Edition Collectible Tour Poster
Collectible Dream Theater Meet and Greet Laminate and A Special Tour Gift
*Seats and rows will be assigned in order of which it was placed. We will assign seats up to 2 weeks prior to the concert or once a date has sold out of VIP.

**ALL SALES ARE IN USD**

PLEASE NOTE: All items are picked up day of show at the merch table. Tickets ARE SHIPPED FOR THIS DATE.

I guess I'll just buy a cheap ticket then because I don't want to risk paying the 100 bucks and getting a seat I don't like?  Or actually, I don't think I'm buying a ticket at all today.  I don't like this at all.
You can't pick your seats, but I'd bet you could see them before actually buying them. At least find out what they're offering.  That said, I've always found presales to be a complete waste of time.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on July 26, 2017, 08:21:06 AM
That's really lame. With today's inventory systems, I expect to be able to select my seats to any event that has assigned seating. I actually can't remember the last time I bought tickets and didn't have that option.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 26, 2017, 08:22:23 AM
Specifically says seats not assigned until two weeks before event (or when they sell out) on a first come first serve basis, for all presale tickets including the cheap seats. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on July 26, 2017, 08:24:00 AM
anyone else having an issue ordering presale tickets on that shitty site? keeps sending me in a circle of logging in and my cart screens...
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: axeman90210 on July 26, 2017, 08:24:34 AM
I'll just wait for them to have good seats available in the days before the show when VIP doesn't sell out.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 26, 2017, 08:24:42 AM
That's really lame. With today's inventory systems, I expect to be able to select my seats to any event that has assigned seating. I actually can't remember the last time I bought tickets and didn't have that option.

Totally this, also, I have no issue paying 100 bucks to see DT, but let me know where I am sitting at that price.  It's not GA so I don't understand why they would expect someone to buy a high priced ticket without knowing the details.

Maybe it's just for the presale and the full sale I will see?  I'm not buying this yet.  Maybe waiting till the day of will get me the best ticket like last year.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: dream416 on July 26, 2017, 08:29:34 AM
They still don't have the Toronto date up yet........Brutal.Tickets on sale at 10.00 A.M. local time.....Right..... ::)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 26, 2017, 08:32:11 AM
Specifically says seats not assigned until two weeks before event (or when they sell out) on a first come first serve basis, for all presale tickets including the cheap seats.
Never heard of this, but now way I'd go along with it. I do not play ball.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 26, 2017, 08:32:24 AM
They still don't have the Toronto date up yet........Brutal.Tickets on sale at 10.00 A.M. local time.....Right..... ::)

May not go on sale today.  They weren't clear on what dates do and don't.  NJ tickets are on sale, but NYC are not. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 26, 2017, 08:34:59 AM
Specifically says seats not assigned until two weeks before event (or when they sell out) on a first come first serve basis, for all presale tickets including the cheap seats.
Never heard of this, but now way I'd go along with it. I do not play ball.

Yea, I tried to checkout with the cheap tickets regardless and it never shows a seat assignment.  I do not play ball either, not like this.  I was totally willing to dish out money for a solid seat too. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Joshgirouard on July 26, 2017, 08:38:18 AM
I don't get how this system will work . For The remaining dates not on presale today it says they will be next week . However the public on sale is this Friday . Good luck getting a decent ticket via their presale links for all the presales next week 🤔
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: dream416 on July 26, 2017, 08:40:03 AM
They still don't have the Toronto date up yet........Brutal.Tickets on sale at 10.00 A.M. local time.....Right..... ::)

May not go on sale today.  They weren't clear on what dates do and don't.  NJ tickets are on sale, but NYC are not.

They should have stayed with Crowdsurge like they did for the TA tour. Seems some people are having problems with this site.
Man I wish ( and miss) the days of standing in line to get tickets lol.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 26, 2017, 08:40:38 AM
I don't get how this system will work . For The remaining dates not on presale today it says they will be next week . However the public on sale is this Friday . Good luck getting a decent ticket via their presale links for all the presales next week 🤔

I believe if the presale is not today, then the public sale is Friday next week after the presale. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OptionalPlayer on July 26, 2017, 08:42:11 AM
They still don't have the Toronto date up yet........Brutal.Tickets on sale at 10.00 A.M. local time.....Right..... ::)

May not go on sale today.  They weren't clear on what dates do and don't.  NJ tickets are on sale, but NYC are not.

According to Ticketmaster, the presale for Toronto is tomorrow at 10am.

https://www.ticketmaster.ca/dream-theater-toronto-ontario-11-12-2017/event/100052F9CA6241B7?artistid=744581&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=200

Now if we only had a presale password. . .
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: dream416 on July 26, 2017, 08:47:56 AM
They still don't have the Toronto date up yet........Brutal.Tickets on sale at 10.00 A.M. local time.....Right..... ::)

May not go on sale today.  They weren't clear on what dates do and don't.  NJ tickets are on sale, but NYC are not.

According to Ticketmaster, the presale for Toronto is tomorrow at 10am.

https://www.ticketmaster.ca/dream-theater-toronto-ontario-11-12-2017/event/100052F9CA6241B7?artistid=744581&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=200

Now if we only had a presale password. . .

This lol ^
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OpenYourEyes311 on July 26, 2017, 08:50:40 AM
Has anyone been successful in getting tickets to the Boston show? Or any other?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on July 26, 2017, 08:52:12 AM
What's bad about the Orpheum?  I know nothing of the place so just wondering.

It's old and grungy. Plus, it's tough to find parking. But as far as seeing a concert there, all sightlines are excellent. The Opera House was nice enough (cleaner), but honestly, I'd rather see them at the Orpheum.

The grungy part is one thing, the other thing is that DT are driving the house PA way past the point of what it can do. The sound is usually horrible there. I saw Steven Wilson there and he nowhere near was as loud, and the PA was actually really nice-sounding.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Joshgirouard on July 26, 2017, 08:53:23 AM
I don't get how this system will work . For The remaining dates not on presale today it says they will be next week . However the public on sale is this Friday . Good luck getting a decent ticket via their presale links for all the presales next week 🤔

I believe if the presale is not today, then the public sale is Friday next week after the presale.

According to Ticketmaster live nation presales are tomorrow and onsales to public are Friday July 28th 12pm
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Joshgirouard on July 26, 2017, 08:53:59 AM
I just had this chat with soundrink:

How come you don't specify exact seats for the dream theater concerts ? I don't feel comfortable buying a ticket for that price without knowing where it is ,especially when you give a very broad range of where the seats could be
Live chat operator avatar
Sound Rink
Hi there. We will be emailing people what their exact seating is at some point in the neat future.Sorry--*near.
How near ?... it's really hard to blindly risk that kind of money on such a huge question mark
Live chat operator avatar
Sound Rink
Which offer are you looking to purchase?
im looking for toronto
Live chat operator avatar
Sound Rink
The sections associated with a particular package are first come, first serve within those reserved sections.Buyers will be notified closer to the show date which seat they have exactly.
So if they go on sale at 10 am and I get mine 2 seconds later , my seats will be the best available within the bracket that you offer ?
Live chat operator avatar
Sound Rink
Correct.

Olark Live Chat   
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Samsara on July 26, 2017, 09:00:08 AM
Do you think it's a stubbornness about the actual venues, or is it more promoter related?

Good relationships with promoters, who have relationships with the venues. And if a venue makes sense for a production, then the promoter will put them there. Unless a band hates a venue, I think they just go with what the promoter recommends. A band's management/booking agent are usually the ones who communicate directly with promoters.

Question -- do we have to go through soundlink? I saw Livenation presales, so perhaps tickets can be assigned normally through them? I need three seats for Oakland...
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 26, 2017, 09:04:26 AM
Wow, I can't believe that's how they are actually selling tickets...  :-[
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 26, 2017, 09:15:12 AM
Excited for a Raleigh show!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 26, 2017, 09:23:30 AM
I don't get how this system will work . For The remaining dates not on presale today it says they will be next week . However the public on sale is this Friday . Good luck getting a decent ticket via their presale links for all the presales next week 🤔

Its select dates go on sale this week. With the remaining dates going on sale next week (including their own pre-sales).
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Tick on July 26, 2017, 09:35:37 AM
Sometimes I think buying tickets for a lot of shows on the on sale day is set up to screw you. They know the diehard will buy so I think the strategy is to fuck over that fan and save good seats to lure people into buying weeks later when sales sag and they have a shitload of tickets left. That's why the last time I went to the Beacon on sale day I pulled 7th row center. I've pulled great seats on show nights. I walked up for Rush at PNC a few years back and got 3rd row center 2 hours before the show.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 26, 2017, 09:49:40 AM
Yea, Im thinking waiting till day of might be the best course of action.  This sale is a joke IMO unless you want the meet and greet package.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gm5k on July 26, 2017, 09:58:02 AM
Has there been any word as to whether they might change up the setlist at all for the new NA tour?

Got some friends that are down for the Austin show, but I've been seen so many of the I&W songs live multiple times before I'm more interested in what they'll be playing outside of that album. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on July 26, 2017, 10:00:18 AM
Has there been any word as to whether they might change up the setlist at all for the new NA tour?

Got some friends that are down for the Austin show, but I've been seen so many of the I&W songs live multiple times before I'm more interested in what they'll be playing outside that album. 
One never knows.  I know the band were toying with the idea of making a change or two (not to the I&W portion of the set--that will stay intact).  But I have no idea how far they went down that path.  ...and even if I did know, which I don't, I wouldn't tell.  :)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 26, 2017, 10:17:07 AM
Some clarification an hour ago (yet an hour after sales started):
Quote
These are the official presales on sale today. General on-sale for these dates will be this Friday. Then another batch of presales on Aug 2 (with general on Aug 4)
10am local time today: Oakland, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Detroit, Buffalo, Boston, Asbury Park, Philadelphia, Nashville and Dallas
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: vtgrad on July 26, 2017, 10:21:50 AM
Excited for a Raleigh show!

+2 for that excitement... a show within 3.5-hours of home and 5-blocks from The Pit (I know Ed Mitchell's not there anymore, but I'm sure it's still excellent)... I'm down!  As much as I LOVE going to D.C. for shows, it's nice to have one closer to home!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: faizoff on July 26, 2017, 10:24:33 AM
Dammit no Florida dates. Have to figure out which date to do a road trip.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gm5k on July 26, 2017, 10:33:04 AM
Has there been any word as to whether they might change up the setlist at all for the new NA tour?

Got some friends that are down for the Austin show, but I've been seen so many of the I&W songs live multiple times before I'm more interested in what they'll be playing outside that album. 
One never knows.  I know the band were toying with the idea of making a change or two (not to the I&W portion of the set--that will stay intact).  But I have no idea how far they went down that path.  ...and even if I did know, which I don't, I wouldn't tell.  :)

Indeed.  Thanks...I'm sure I'll know the exact set list by the Austin show.  One of the last ones  ;D   I'll be way too curious and check on here eventually.

I just hope that if they take out ACOS, it's not for Octavarium.  If I was gonna have the encore epic changed out it'd be for TCOT  :metal  ITPOE would be cool, too.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Scottjf8 on July 26, 2017, 10:39:00 AM
Has anyone been successful in getting tickets to the Boston show? Or any other?

I got Dallas. 4th row center!

The citi presale password is the first 6 digits of a citi card number.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on July 26, 2017, 10:44:03 AM
Has there been any word as to whether they might change up the setlist at all for the new NA tour?

Got some friends that are down for the Austin show, but I've been seen so many of the I&W songs live multiple times before I'm more interested in what they'll be playing outside that album. 
One never knows.  I know the band were toying with the idea of making a change or two (not to the I&W portion of the set--that will stay intact).  But I have no idea how far they went down that path.  ...and even if I did know, which I don't, I wouldn't tell.  :)

Indeed.  Thanks...I'm sure I'll know the exact set list by the Austin show.  One of the last ones  ;D   I'll be way too curious and check on here eventually.

I just hope that if they take out ACOS, it's not for Octavarium.  If I was gonna have the encore epic changed out it'd be for TCOT  :metal  ITPOE would be cool, too.

Well, I can say that I have not heard ANY discussions about taking out ACOS.  Other than I&W, I think they consider that to be a centerpiece of this tour.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Scottjf8 on July 26, 2017, 10:45:02 AM
Has there been any word as to whether they might change up the setlist at all for the new NA tour?

Got some friends that are down for the Austin show, but I've been seen so many of the I&W songs live multiple times before I'm more interested in what they'll be playing outside that album. 
One never knows.  I know the band were toying with the idea of making a change or two (not to the I&W portion of the set--that will stay intact).  But I have no idea how far they went down that path.  ...and even if I did know, which I don't, I wouldn't tell.  :)

Indeed.  Thanks...I'm sure I'll know the exact set list by the Austin show.  One of the last ones  ;D   I'll be way too curious and check on here eventually.

I just hope that if they take out ACOS, it's not for Octavarium.  If I was gonna have the encore epic changed out it'd be for TCOT  :metal  ITPOE would be cool, too.

Well, I can say that I have not heard ANY discussions about taking out ACOS.  Other than I&W, I think they consider that to be a centerpiece of this tour.

Yes, it's not going anywhere since ACoS was supposed to be ON I&W
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gm5k on July 26, 2017, 10:46:46 AM

Well, I can say that I have not heard ANY discussions about taking out ACOS.  Other than I&W, I think they consider that to be a centerpiece of this tour.

That's good news.  It will be incredible to see it live.  Always been one of my favorites.

In that case, I wouldn't mind seeing BAI taken out for TCOT.  Don't know if that would mess with the timing of the show though (as far as venue rules go) as TCOT is about 7 minutes longer.  Also maybe too long of an epic to be in the middle of the show/end of first set.  Lines in the Sand would line up better if they wanted to keep the same time.  Just thinking out loud here and wishing  :biggrin:  I'd like to see The Bigger Picture, Hell's Kitchen, and As I Am stay on the set.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 26, 2017, 10:57:26 AM
Has anyone been successful in getting tickets to the Boston show? Or any other?

I got Dallas. 4th row center!

The citi presale password is the first 6 digits of a citi card number.
At 1030 TM didn't even have the event listed. Talk about a haphazard operation. In any case, I'm not spending 120 to see DT. Hell, that's what I paid for Roger Waters
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Samsara on July 26, 2017, 10:58:34 AM
Tickets are THAT expensive? 120 each?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 26, 2017, 11:02:14 AM
Tickets are THAT expensive? 120 each?
Front seats are $99+TTL. When I put three 5th row in the box they were 357. Moving a few rows back they're $69. That's closer to what DT is worth in my book.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mr. Ister on July 26, 2017, 11:10:48 AM
PEORIA ILLINOIS

WHAT
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Samsara on July 26, 2017, 11:21:33 AM
Oakland will no doubt be pricey. F.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Samsara on July 26, 2017, 11:38:00 AM
Such BS. The soundlink presale for the Oakland gig? Literally just got posted, and apparently all the standard tickets are sold out already. now, it is just the presale, but that is ridiculous. What, did they release like 10 tickets? WTH?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 26, 2017, 11:39:38 AM
Picked up Row M on the center aisle for Dallas. Moving back 7 rows is worth $33 to me right now.

And to the people waiting to buy tickets closer to showtime, that's usually a great idea. However, in this case I don't see signs that they're holding many seats back for the Dallas show. It's too sporadic up front. I get the impression that there's a row here or a row there that they're sitting on, but not a whole lot, and some of those will be for the general onsale. This doesn't look like a show where you grab a front row seat 5 hours before show time.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 26, 2017, 11:43:05 AM
Such BS. The soundlink presale for the Oakland gig? Literally just got posted, and apparently all the standard tickets are sold out already. now, it is just the presale, but that is ridiculous. What, did they release like 10 tickets? WTH?
The presale for Oakland doesn't start until tomorrow, according to TM. Soundrink, whatever the fuck they are, are only handling the VIP package.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Samsara on July 26, 2017, 11:47:04 AM
Nope, you could buy single ticket non VIP from Soundrink or whatever today. But apparently it keeps shifting from 1 or 2 available to none. Stupid.

Yes, I saw the presale for tomorrow. I'm on it! Thanks El Barto!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mike099 on July 26, 2017, 11:49:37 AM
Excited for a Raleigh show!

Excited for the Nashville show the next night.  I do not believe DT has been to Nashville, but I could be wrong.  They are playing in a 2K arena(war memorial auditorium), which is where I saw Opeth and Gojira in May.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: goo-goo on July 26, 2017, 12:09:54 PM
Are we going to be able to upgrade to a VIP package? Let's say I only buy the ticket in the seats and section that I want. Can I upgrade for the package at a later time?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on July 26, 2017, 12:16:35 PM
I don't think so. These aren't airline tickets :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: goo-goo on July 26, 2017, 12:27:27 PM
I don't think so. These aren't airline tickets :lol

LOL

I've seen that option before at DT.net on previous tours, like The Astonishing. That's the reason I'm asking.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Architeuthis on July 26, 2017, 12:41:15 PM
If I want to see them on this tour, looks like I'll have to catch a plane. They snubbed all three states in the Pacific Northwest. They have a good fan base up here between Portland, Seattle, and Vancouver BC.  Their promoters are lame, or the venues they consulted. Either way......WEAK!  :censored
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gm5k on July 26, 2017, 01:11:13 PM
Honestly surprised they're coming to Austin just a year after San Antonio.  They hadn't been to south/central TX in a while before coming to SA last year.

That show at the Tobin Center was incredible, though.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 26, 2017, 01:12:14 PM
Jordan went live on Facebook.   Im about half way through watching and it's pretty cool.  He essentially is singing the tour dates and tour info in an improv piano session.  He's answering questions and one question was is the setlist going to be different.  He said they talked about it and it's possible, so you will have to wait and see.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: goo-goo on July 26, 2017, 01:16:28 PM
Honestly surprised they're coming to Austin just a year after San Antonio.  They hadn't been to south/central TX in a while before coming to SA last year.

That show at the Tobin Center was incredible, though.

They did play in Austin during the ADTOE tour. Oct 26, 2011.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 26, 2017, 01:17:48 PM
Honestly surprised they're coming to Austin just a year after San Antonio.  They hadn't been to south/central TX in a while before coming to SA last year.

That show at the Tobin Center was incredible, though.

They did play in Austin during the ADTOE tour. Oct 26, 2011.
Twice. For some peculiar reason I saw both.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 26, 2017, 01:37:12 PM
At the moment the Peoria IL show at the Peoria Civic Center (only 2.5 hrs from me) on November 4th is showing a Minor League hockey game on their websites page?? I went on there to check out tix cost and what not and DT isn't even mentioned on their website.

I think I'm going to take my 11 and 10 year old sons to this one....it'd be their first concert ever.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: goo-goo on July 26, 2017, 01:49:03 PM
I don't think so. These aren't airline tickets :lol

LOL

I've seen that option before at DT.net on previous tours, like The Astonishing. That's the reason I'm asking.

This Japan show has a VIP upgrade without the ticket included
https://soundrink.com/#/event/dream-theater-9-13-osaka-japan
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: MasterLomaxus on July 26, 2017, 01:53:41 PM
At the moment the Peoria IL show at the Peoria Civic Center (only 2.5 hrs from me) on November 4th is showing a Minor League hockey game on their websites page?? I went on there to check out tix cost and what not and DT isn't even mentioned on their website.

I think I'm going to take my 11 and 10 year old sons to this one....it'd be their first concert ever.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this.  I was looking forward to going to this, but it seems kind of odd that it's not listed.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cfmoran13 on July 26, 2017, 02:11:22 PM
Yes, I saw the presale for tomorrow. I'm on it! Thanks El Barto!
Has a password been released for the presale yet?  Planning on the Asbury Park show.  On a Saturday, too.  Sweet!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: goo-goo on July 26, 2017, 02:15:05 PM
Livenation Presale Password for Dallas: TEMPO
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 26, 2017, 02:16:31 PM
Yes, I saw the presale for tomorrow. I'm on it! Thanks El Barto!
Has a password been released for the presale yet?  Planning on the Asbury Park show.  On a Saturday, too.  Sweet!

Doesn't look like you need a password for Asbury Park.  I was checking earlier because I will be there as well.  But I didn't purchase because I don't like not knowing where I am sitting.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: kaos2900 on July 26, 2017, 02:20:03 PM
Are these the only US dates? Surprised at no KC date but a Wichita date. Don't think I'm going to be able to swing this.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 26, 2017, 02:21:33 PM
Are these the only US dates? Surprised at no KC date but a Wichita date. Don't think I'm going to be able to swing this.

My guess. Yes.  Considering the wait and how many "soon"s we got.  I got to think this is it.

Also, if you look at the dates, there's not much wiggle room besides the break they are taking for Thanksgiving it seems but they are still on the east coast before and after that break.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on July 26, 2017, 02:30:23 PM
Looks like they learned something from their DPAC show. People will come to shows in North Carolina. I hope that the Triangle becomes a permanent stopping ground. :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cfmoran13 on July 26, 2017, 02:52:11 PM
Doesn't look like you need a password for Asbury Park.  I was checking earlier because I will be there as well.  But I didn't purchase because I don't like not knowing where I am sitting.
You mean no password for Ticketmaster?  I'm not buying tix through SoundRink.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 26, 2017, 03:16:59 PM
Doesn't look like you need a password for Asbury Park.  I was checking earlier because I will be there as well.  But I didn't purchase because I don't like not knowing where I am sitting.
You mean no password for Ticketmaster?  I'm not buying tix through SoundRink.

Yea meant soundrink.  Didn't even notice this event was finally listed on ticketmaster.  :lol 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 26, 2017, 03:21:57 PM
I got mine through the citicard  presale, so it's card specific. Actually the first time I've ever gone that route, now that I think about it.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 26, 2017, 03:28:21 PM
I got mine through the citicard  presale, so it's card specific. Actually the first time I've ever gone that route, now that I think about it.

Asbury Park is listed as "venue online presale"  I don't see anymore information other than its from 10am to 6pm tomorrow.  I guess, I'll find out tomorrow.  The venue's website doesn't give any info. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on July 26, 2017, 03:28:29 PM
How do you get the pre-sale passwords?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 26, 2017, 03:32:18 PM
How do you get the pre-sale passwords?

I get livenation emails, I often get pre-sale codes from them through the emails.  Sometimes it's through a fan club, sometimes it's through a credit card.  I have no idea how to get the code for tomorrow's pre-sale.  I was going to subscribe to an email letter with the venue to see if it came that way, but they don't even have that option (that I can see).  I posted on their facebook page, let's see if the respond, but I'm not thinking it's likely.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Scottjf8 on July 26, 2017, 03:41:15 PM
Jordan answered my question on the live chat today about possible setlist changes, and he said they have already been discussing it some.  I'd love to see a few swap outs, like TBP and gift of music.  Could we get something like Endless Sacrifice?

Oh, and of course this is for the first half of the set.. the second and encore aren't changing..
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on July 26, 2017, 03:44:11 PM
At the moment the Peoria IL show at the Peoria Civic Center (only 2.5 hrs from me) on November 4th is showing a Minor League hockey game on their websites page?? I went on there to check out tix cost and what not and DT isn't even mentioned on their website.

I think I'm going to take my 11 and 10 year old sons to this one....it'd be their first concert ever.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this.  I was looking forward to going to this, but it seems kind of odd that it's not listed.

Yeah, it was brought to my attention this morning.  I am looking into it.

EDIT:  Okay, here's the scoop on Peoria:

There are two separate venues within the Civic Center--the arena and the theater.  The hockey game is in the arena.  The venue is currently building the webpage for the concert event (Dream Theater) in the theater part of the venue.  The promoter is getting with the venue's contact to make sure this gets clarified, but fear not--all is well.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 26, 2017, 05:35:07 PM
 "The promoter is getting with the venue's contact to make sure this gets clarified, but fear not--all is well. Oh, and tickets go on sale in 7. . .6. . .5..."
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on July 26, 2017, 06:04:46 PM
Can you also get in contact with someone about the mistake Albuquerque, MN in the original photo posted and tell them that they gave those in Minnesota a sense of false hope and come here and play as a result.

Thanks

 :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Joshgirouard on July 26, 2017, 06:20:12 PM
Toronto live nation presale password for tomorrow : TEMPO
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 26, 2017, 07:19:36 PM
At the moment the Peoria IL show at the Peoria Civic Center (only 2.5 hrs from me) on November 4th is showing a Minor League hockey game on their websites page?? I went on there to check out tix cost and what not and DT isn't even mentioned on their website.

I think I'm going to take my 11 and 10 year old sons to this one....it'd be their first concert ever.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this.  I was looking forward to going to this, but it seems kind of odd that it's not listed.

Yeah, it was brought to my attention this morning.  I am looking into it.

EDIT:  Okay, here's the scoop on Peoria:

There are two separate venues within the Civic Center--the arena and the theater.  The hockey game is in the arena.  The venue is currently building the webpage for the concert event (Dream Theater) in the theater part of the venue.  The promoter is getting with the venue's contact to make sure this gets clarified, but fear not--all is well.

Thanks for the clarification Bosk1!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: lonestar on July 26, 2017, 07:41:57 PM
Ok, Oaktown gets it first!!!


Bummed they're not playing at the Warfeild though, that's just such a great venue for them.

Very surprised they snubbed the pacific northwest though..
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on July 26, 2017, 08:46:54 PM
anyone else having an issue ordering presale tickets on that shitty site? keeps sending me in a circle of logging in and my cart screens...

Yes.  Happened to me.  Gave up on the platinum purchase.  This is Steve from customer service.  Have I answered all of your questions in a courteous and prompt fashion?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: dream416 on July 26, 2017, 10:37:14 PM
Tickets purchased for the Toronto show!!!!!!!  :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cfmoran13 on July 27, 2017, 06:39:53 AM
How do you get the pre-sale passwords?

I get livenation emails, I often get pre-sale codes from them through the emails.  Sometimes it's through a fan club, sometimes it's through a credit card.  I have no idea how to get the code for tomorrow's pre-sale.  I was going to subscribe to an email letter with the venue to see if it came that way, but they don't even have that option (that I can see).  I posted on their facebook page, let's see if the respond, but I'm not thinking it's likely.
And, of course, there is no venue website to check.  Their Facebook page says tix go onsale Friday, August 28th.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OptionalPlayer on July 27, 2017, 07:25:22 AM
Tickets purchased for the Toronto show!!!!!!!  :metal
HOW?!?!?! TELL ME PLZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzz.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Joshgirouard on July 27, 2017, 07:26:33 AM
Tickets purchased for the Toronto show!!!!!!!  :metal
Did you get them through soundrink? I wonder since they are in US funds on that website , that would deter a lot of people from buying them , hence leaving better tickets ....🤔
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OptionalPlayer on July 27, 2017, 07:35:16 AM
Tickets purchased for the Toronto show!!!!!!!  :metal
Did you get them through soundrink? I wonder since they are in US funds on that website , that would deter a lot of people from buying them , hence leaving better tickets ....🤔
It definitely would deter me.

Curious though: I'm registered to both DT's and Livenation's mailing list, yet I never received the presale password. Where did you get it?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Joshgirouard on July 27, 2017, 07:45:38 AM
Tickets purchased for the Toronto show!!!!!!!  :metal
Did you get them through soundrink? I wonder since they are in US funds on that website , that would deter a lot of people from buying them , hence leaving better tickets ....🤔
It definitely would deter me.

Curious though: I'm registered to both DT's and Livenation's mailing list, yet I never received the presale password. Where did you get it?
I'm registered at both as well and didn't get either of them , my wife's best friend actually texted me the screenshot of the email she got with the code from livenation 😂
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: dream416 on July 27, 2017, 07:45:46 AM
Purchased through Sound Rink. Went on the site last night & the purchase link was up.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OptionalPlayer on July 27, 2017, 07:52:24 AM
Tickets purchased for the Toronto show!!!!!!!  :metal
Did you get them through soundrink? I wonder since they are in US funds on that website , that would deter a lot of people from buying them , hence leaving better tickets ....🤔
It definitely would deter me.

Curious though: I'm registered to both DT's and Livenation's mailing list, yet I never received the presale password. Where did you get it?
I'm registered at both as well and didn't get either of them , my wife's best friend actually texted me the screenshot of the email she got with the code from livenation 😂
You better have bought that person a ticket!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: DragonAttack on July 27, 2017, 08:04:09 AM
https://soundrink.com/#/tour/dream-theater

The Lyric in Baltimore will be another beautiful venue to see them in on Nov 27

Curious, though......never heard of 'Niagra Falls, NY' ;)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Joshgirouard on July 27, 2017, 08:19:26 AM
$280 for 2 orchestra tickets to Toronto . Glad I got them through soundrink yesterday
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 27, 2017, 08:29:52 AM
Anyone know the code for Asbury Park?  Looks like theres some good tickets available.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Serpentor on July 27, 2017, 08:32:20 AM
Anyone know the code for Asbury Park?  Looks like theres some good tickets available.
  Try TEMPO,  it worked for the Boston presale today
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 27, 2017, 08:35:09 AM
Anyone know the code for Asbury Park?  Looks like theres some good tickets available.
  Try TEMPO,  it worked for the Boston presale today

Yea, tried that and no good.  Says it's a venue online presale on ticketmaster but the venue has no information about the presale. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: As I Am on July 27, 2017, 08:38:12 AM
passcode for Asbury presale is:
DREAM
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cfmoran13 on July 27, 2017, 08:41:25 AM
Anyone know the code for Asbury Park?  Looks like theres some good tickets available.
  Try TEMPO,  it worked for the Boston presale today
Where did you find the Boston code?  Like cramx3 said, there's no sign of the password at all.  I messaged the venue but haven't heard back.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: As I Am on July 27, 2017, 08:42:32 AM
try DREAM for any presales
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: As I Am on July 27, 2017, 08:43:14 AM
I had no idea what the code was so I just threw "Dream" in and it worked.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 27, 2017, 08:46:16 AM
passcode for Asbury presale is:
DREAM

 :hefdaddy :hefdaddy

Got 7th row center, but more towards Petrucci's side.  $86 after fees and taxes.   :metal :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Serpentor on July 27, 2017, 08:46:31 AM
Anyone know the code for Asbury Park?  Looks like theres some good tickets available.
  Try TEMPO,  it worked for the Boston presale today
Where did you find the Boston code?  Like cramx3 said, there's no sign of the password at all.  I messaged the venue but haven't heard back.
I saw Tempo worked for Toronto, so I gave it a shot with the Boston show.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cfmoran13 on July 27, 2017, 08:58:33 AM
Got 3rd row, Myung and Rudess side.

I&W 25th Anniversary for my 25th DT show.  Whoo hoo!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 27, 2017, 09:01:34 AM
Got 3rd row, Myung and Rudess side.

I&W 25th Anniversary for my 25th DT show.  Whoo hoo!

I think I know what tickets you got  :lol Was debating a little closer but to the left or a couple rows back and center.

Honestly was thinking first row on balcony, but those tickets were the same price as the first few rows so passed on that.

Now that I got my friend to agree to come to the NYC show, next week got to hunt for the best tickets there too.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cfmoran13 on July 27, 2017, 09:16:59 AM
Got 3rd row, Myung and Rudess side.

I&W 25th Anniversary for my 25th DT show.  Whoo hoo!

I think I know what tickets you got  :lol Was debating a little closer but to the left or a couple rows back and center.

Honestly was thinking first row on balcony, but those tickets were the same price as the first few rows so passed on that.

Now that I got my friend to agree to come to the NYC show, next week got to hunt for the best tickets there too.
Damn!  I wasn't even thinking about the balcony.  I love the view from the first row balcony at venues.  Technically, it's 13 rows back there.  That's pretty darn good.  Oh well.  3rd row (really first row past the pit) should work just fine.  This'll be my wife's 11th time seeing them.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Samsara on July 27, 2017, 09:17:57 AM
1 hour, 42 minutes until I BETTER GET GOOD SEATS.  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: utopiarun on July 27, 2017, 09:21:09 AM
Got row 6 JP's side at Asbury Park!  ;D
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 27, 2017, 09:22:38 AM
Got row 6 JP's side at Asbury Park!  ;D

 :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cfmoran13 on July 27, 2017, 09:23:12 AM
Got row 6 JP's side at Asbury Park!  ;D
Congrats!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: axeman90210 on July 27, 2017, 09:29:58 AM
May have just bought second row tickets on Petrucci's side for Asbury Park. Hooray for impulse purchases :hat
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on July 27, 2017, 09:30:20 AM
Wow, those tickets are crazy cheap. I'm sitting super close to the right corner, should have a nice view of JP's action!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 27, 2017, 09:32:52 AM
May have just bought second row tickets on Petrucci's side for Asbury Park. Hooray for impulse purchases :hat

The handicap seats?  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on July 27, 2017, 09:38:11 AM
I was actually concerned, my seat is "wheelchair accessible". Does that mean I can buy this only when I'm in a wheelchair? I hope not  :eek
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 27, 2017, 09:42:25 AM
I was actually concerned, my seat is "wheelchair accessible". Does that mean I can buy this only when I'm in a wheelchair? I hope not  :eek

Probably not.

Those second rows seats were listed as that for NJ (or companion for a wheelchair person).  I doubt anyone will give you a hard time.  But you never know.  I almost bought it cause it was closer, but opted not to.  I've done it once before (accidentally and for a football game) and the seats were amazing and no one complained.  My father loved the nice seats too, so it's kind of become a funny story between us.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Grappler on July 27, 2017, 09:44:30 AM
I came close to pulling the trigger and buying a ticket, but this show is just too close to my wife's due date.  If the baby hangs on and she delivers a week or later, it's right on the edge of being around the time of the concert.  I want to see this tour bad, but family has to come first. 

I don't like the way that they do tickets now - "verified seats" in "this" row.  At least pricing was decent - $29 for the worst seats and from $45 up to $100 (maybe more) for the best on the main floor
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on July 27, 2017, 09:49:21 AM
I was actually concerned, my seat is "wheelchair accessible". Does that mean I can buy this only when I'm in a wheelchair? I hope not  :eek

Probably not.

Those second rows seats were listed as that for NJ (or companion for a wheelchair person).  I doubt anyone will give you a hard time.  But you never know.  I almost bought it cause it was closer, but opted not to.  I've done it once before (accidentally and for a football game) and the seats were amazing and no one complained.  My father loved the nice seats too, so it's kind of become a funny story between us.

Yeah, quite a few of them are listed as wheelchair accessible, which I think just means it's a seat next to the aisle. Would seem excessive if all of those were reserved for people in wheelchairs.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: axeman90210 on July 27, 2017, 09:58:33 AM
May have just bought second row tickets on Petrucci's side for Asbury Park. Hooray for impulse purchases :hat

The handicap seats?  :lol

Not sure now that you mention it :lol Didn't notice anything about that when I was buying them, but I see it listed on the other row B tickets that are still available. Don't see it mentioned anywhere on my receipt or the digital copy of the tickets. Guess we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 27, 2017, 10:04:23 AM
May have just bought second row tickets on Petrucci's side for Asbury Park. Hooray for impulse purchases :hat

The handicap seats?  :lol

Not sure now that you mention it :lol Didn't notice anything about that when I was buying them, but I see it listed on the other row B tickets that are still available. Don't see it mentioned anywhere on my receipt or the digital copy of the tickets. Guess we'll see what happens.

 :lol you're good

Also, happy with the ticket prices so far.  Cheaper than TA shows for me.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 27, 2017, 10:05:25 AM
Surprised by y'alls ticket prices. For Dallas the seats are relatively expensive. I think part of it might be that it's a brand spanking new venue (not even sure it's open yet). But when people in NY/Boston are buying first tier tickets for what I paid for second it's a peculiar thing.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 27, 2017, 10:08:11 AM
Surprised by y'alls ticket prices. For Dallas the seats are relatively expensive. I think part of it might be that it's a brand spanking new venue (not even sure it's open yet). But when people in NY/Boston are buying first tier tickets for what I paid for second it's a peculiar thing.

Maybe a promoters way of getting people to buy tickets for more than one show?  I mean Asbury Park to NYC is only an hour and half drive and without rotating setlists, maybe a lower priced ticket is what helps drive ticket sales for all the shows in a close proximity?

Last DT appearance in Asbury Park didn't sell well at all and it was followed by a packed show in NYC.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 27, 2017, 10:17:39 AM
I really don't understand this fucking band. The venue they're playing this time in Dallas can be configured for 2500, 4000, and 8000. It's matter of opening up the 300s and then the lawn. DT might sell 1500 here, so naturally they're using the 4k configuration. The smart play here is to buy the cheap $29 seats in the 300 section. The day of the show they'll be reticketed all the way down to the 100 level. From there you move up even further.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Samsara on July 27, 2017, 10:25:11 AM
35 minutes...

Not like I am counting or anything...
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: goo-goo on July 27, 2017, 10:33:43 AM
I really don't understand this fucking band. The venue they're playing this time in Dallas can be configured for 2500, 4000, and 8000. It's matter of opening up the 300s and then the lawn. DT might sell 1500 here, so naturally they're using the 4k configuration. The smart play here is to buy the cheap $29 seats in the 300 section. The day of the show they'll be reticketed all the way down to the 100 level. From there you move up even further.

Surprised they chose this venue. The Verizon Theater was always good as far as attendance in my recollection.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on July 27, 2017, 10:57:11 AM
Surprised by y'alls ticket prices.

The base ticket price in Boston is $33.50. Which is insanely cheap, that's like two cocktails worth in downtown Boston.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Samsara on July 27, 2017, 11:15:36 AM
This sucks. We're taking my daughter, since she loves Images and Words (she's 8) and so we were originally going to do Loge, and try and do first couple of rows. Well, those were totally unavailable (figures) so we dropped into orchestra, and got orchestra Row K, all the way, what I thought was on the side (it is first row of that orchestra section). I thought it was on JP's side (I got turned around), turns out it is Jordan's.

If by chance anyone got front row Loge for Oakland and has three tickets (I know, long shot) and wants to trade straight up, hit me up. I'll eat the extra money. I just wanted my daughter to get a clearer view and be either more center or on JP's side (she enjoys the guitars more, as do I).
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OptionalPlayer on July 27, 2017, 11:22:00 AM
What I'm most annoyed by is that the pre-sales are for American Express card holders. Now I must wait until tomorrow! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeee!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Samsara on July 27, 2017, 11:31:32 AM
What I'm most annoyed by is that the pre-sales are for American Express card holders. Now I must wait until tomorrow! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeee!

Are you sure? Mine wasn't.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 27, 2017, 11:37:30 AM
I really don't understand this fucking band. The venue they're playing this time in Dallas can be configured for 2500, 4000, and 8000. It's matter of opening up the 300s and then the lawn. DT might sell 1500 here, so naturally they're using the 4k configuration. The smart play here is to buy the cheap $29 seats in the 300 section. The day of the show they'll be reticketed all the way down to the 100 level. From there you move up even further.

Surprised they chose this venue. The Verizon Theater was always good as far as attendance in my recollection.
The configuration they purchased at Nextstage seated 1,940. They never sold it out, but they'd generally be good for 1,500 or so. They did alright there. So while I can see how that was a good sized place for them, I don't see how a small configuration of a large venue is going to be cost effective compared to a small venue. It's the same with the mini-Starplex in Irving. They're buying a small configuration of a giant place. And judging from ticket prices it certainly doesn't seem like they got offered a great deal for playing a new venue.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 27, 2017, 11:38:00 AM
What I'm most annoyed by is that the pre-sales are for American Express card holders. Now I must wait until tomorrow! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeee!

Are you sure? Mine wasn't.
Dallas has five or six presales going on right now. Yesterday it was only Citi.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 27, 2017, 11:42:40 AM
If by chance anyone got front row Loge for Oakland and has three tickets (I know, long shot) and wants to trade straight up, hit me up. I'll eat the extra money. I just wanted my daughter to get a clearer view and be either more center or on JP's side (she enjoys the guitars more, as do I).
You can certainly hit up some local ticket agencies (scalpers). They're usually pretty interested in trades. However, the front row-ness of what you want will make those tickets more valuable than your close up floor seats. Even though yours cost more, I doubt they'd be as valuable in the secondary market. But you should still inquire. And my guess is that second row balc would probably be similarly valued. Front row anywhere fetches a premium.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on July 27, 2017, 11:46:49 AM
Jumped on the presale right at 10am sharp, had the password ready to go in my copy clipboard, picked Row A on the floor for Los Angeles, filled out the form, one click away from purchase - and dang - windows crashes. 

Panic ensues, log back on, and find Row CCC  in the pit, center aisle seat.  Complete purchase.  Not bad for a little misfortune.

If DT offers the M&G package without ticket I plan to upgrade.  $299 (plus service fees) is way too much risk for "wait n see" tickets.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Samsara on July 27, 2017, 11:52:19 AM
If by chance anyone got front row Loge for Oakland and has three tickets (I know, long shot) and wants to trade straight up, hit me up. I'll eat the extra money. I just wanted my daughter to get a clearer view and be either more center or on JP's side (she enjoys the guitars more, as do I).
You can certainly hit up some local ticket agencies (scalpers). They're usually pretty interested in trades. However, the front row-ness of what you want will make those tickets more valuable than your close up floor seats. Even though yours cost more, I doubt they'd be as valuable in the secondary market. But you should still inquire. And my guess is that second row balc would probably be similarly valued. Front row anywhere fetches a premium.

EB -- my tickets are front row, actually. Front row of the section. My concern is sightline, since we are on far stage right...Jordan is the closest, but might not be as viewable because of the angle. We'll have a golden view of center stage and JP, however, because of the angle.  It should be fine, and I am thankful we got tickets. I was just hoping to give her a better overall view. But these should work out OK.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Joshgirouard on July 27, 2017, 12:01:33 PM
Just in case people need it , passwords for Toronto are (live nation : tempo and Sony insider password is :insider)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on July 27, 2017, 12:49:12 PM
Did an online chat with Ticketmaster, my seat was indeed only for wheelchair people. Boo. Well, they refunded me and I bought a (cheaper) box seat. When I did that with Steven Wilson it turned out to be an amazing seat, so I'm chancing it with DT as well.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OptionalPlayer on July 27, 2017, 12:56:49 PM
What I'm most annoyed by is that the pre-sales are for American Express card holders. Now I must wait until tomorrow! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeee!

Are you sure? Mine wasn't.
If you didn't buy your tix through Soundrink, where'd you get them from? And if so, please provide a link?  :-*
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Samsara on July 27, 2017, 01:01:42 PM
Ticketmasterbastard.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OptionalPlayer on July 27, 2017, 01:02:31 PM
I'm literally on there right now trying to buy them, but they're saying I need to use an Amex Credit or Debit card to make the purchase.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Samsara on July 27, 2017, 02:38:43 PM
I'm literally on there right now trying to buy them, but they're saying I need to use an Amex Credit or Debit card to make the purchase.
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The Oakland show?

If so, put in the password:

navi

Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OptionalPlayer on July 27, 2017, 02:41:23 PM
Naw.  It was the Toronto show.

I'll be sure to snag 'em tomorrow!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rumborak on July 27, 2017, 03:28:55 PM
Rough schedule. 18 shows in 25 days  :eek
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on July 27, 2017, 04:04:19 PM
If by chance anyone got front row Loge for Oakland and has three tickets (I know, long shot) and wants to trade straight up, hit me up. I'll eat the extra money. I just wanted my daughter to get a clearer view and be either more center or on JP's side (she enjoys the guitars more, as do I).
You can certainly hit up some local ticket agencies (scalpers). They're usually pretty interested in trades. However, the front row-ness of what you want will make those tickets more valuable than your close up floor seats. Even though yours cost more, I doubt they'd be as valuable in the secondary market. But you should still inquire. And my guess is that second row balc would probably be similarly valued. Front row anywhere fetches a premium.

EB -- my tickets are front row, actually. Front row of the section. My concern is sightline, since we are on far stage right...Jordan is the closest, but might not be as viewable because of the angle. We'll have a golden view of center stage and JP, however, because of the angle.  It should be fine, and I am thankful we got tickets. I was just hoping to give her a better overall view. But these should work out OK.

Good thing about the Fox, unlike the Warfield, is that I don't believe they have a long bank of hanging overhead monitors, so I don't think your view will be obstructed, even way on one side.  That's my recollection anyway.  Granted, the stage my be configured slightly differently than for The Astonishing, but in-house hanging monitors usually belong to the venue, so I doubt that would change.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Scottjf8 on July 27, 2017, 09:19:09 PM
Rough schedule. 18 shows in 25 days  :eek

And I'm seeing them the second from last night of the tour. They might be exhausted by then.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on July 28, 2017, 06:30:32 AM
So does anyone know when the presale for the other gigs starts? Is that today? I'm looking at the Pittsburgh show specifically.

The venue now has the gig up on their site, but they don't start selling tickets until August 4th.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 28, 2017, 06:33:43 AM
So does anyone know when the presale for the other gigs starts? Is that today? I'm looking at the Pittsburgh show specifically.

The venue now has the gig up on their site, but they don't start selling tickets until August 4th.

Sounds right, if they weren't going on sale this week then the presale is next wednesday with public sales on friday.  I believe that is also the case for NYC.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Tick on July 28, 2017, 07:57:19 AM
I was geared up to see what I would find for NYC today. Its not today?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 28, 2017, 08:03:08 AM
Rough schedule. 18 shows in 25 days  :eek

And I'm seeing them the second from last night of the tour. They might be exhausted by then.

You might only get to hear one season from ACOS
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 28, 2017, 08:12:56 AM
I was geared up to see what I would find for NYC today. Its not today?

It's not even listed on Ticketmaster and the other site says coming soon.  So I believe it will be on sale next week.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: countoftuscany42 on July 28, 2017, 11:30:31 AM
guess i should have gotten an LA ticket during the presale, i figured more good/close seats would be available today but that wasn't the case  :tdwn
seats aren't too bad, but considering 70% of the floor seats are $99, i'd have preferred to be a lot closer at that price.  oh well, at least ill be going  :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Dream Team on July 28, 2017, 12:21:47 PM
Albany goes on sale next Friday, cheapest tix are $29.75
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on July 28, 2017, 02:15:00 PM
guess i should have gotten an LA ticket during the presale, i figured more good/close seats would be available today but that wasn't the case  :tdwn
seats aren't too bad, but considering 70% of the floor seats are $99, i'd have preferred to be a lot closer at that price.  oh well, at least ill be going  :metal

But they did release about 8 tickets in the pit for the LA show for today's GA sale as part of the Citi Card preferred ticket promotion.  Sorry I don't have the password.

Just checked availability now (1:20pm PST) and there are 2 front row AAA tickets in the pit for $295 each, which were not there this morning.  Looks like it is sold via Live Nation, not re-seller.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: wolfandwolfandwolf on July 28, 2017, 03:46:27 PM
Purchased my ticket for the Dallas show today. It seemed silly to pay the $30 extra to be marginally closer, so I'm posted up in Row L.

Also, I'm back on this forum after a five-year absence, and that's pretty weird, man.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: OptionalPlayer on July 28, 2017, 05:02:28 PM
That was hands-down the most difficult, if not stressful purchase for DT tickets I've ever come across (this is my twelfth time seeing them, btw).

Ticketmaster was awful. As noon rolled around, I went for "best available" in the balcony seating which I wanted. During the pre-sale, I could choose tickets, but during public - nope. Just best available. When I scanned, I got some floors (despite asking for balcony). The next refresh, I got far back balcony seats. The next refresh, they seemed. . . sold out. The screen wouldn't refresh any new tickets for me. I had myself on a browser, my Ticketmaster Phone app and a friend on her phone app all refreshing until something came available. Nothing popped up. I honestly thought I was SoL.

Because I had a browser open, I looked to see if American Express holders had seats reserved for them - and they did - but I had no Amex card to buy them (damn you, annual fees!). There were tons available and you could choose your seating. To make matters more strenuous, this was all done while I was at work.

It was 12:15 by the time tickets popped up available for us non-Amex folk, so I scooped them immediately. It was in mezzanine seating which was $30 more per ticket, but whatever. I got them.

Come 12:30, I check Ticketmaster again and hundreds of tickets - the ones originally reserved for American Express pre-sale customers - became available to the public. So I could've bought cheaper tickets had I known Ticketmaster wasn't actually going to release ALL of the tickets when they go public at noon.

Anyway, first world problems, I know. But what a mess of a transaction. Mission accomplished.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on July 28, 2017, 05:37:17 PM
I'm not buying until we get closer to the show. It's a fucking Wednesday night! WTF?? Our babysitter is off to college this year. Hopefully we can get someone to watch the kids on a school night.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mike099 on July 28, 2017, 06:47:26 PM
The Nashville show is War Memorial and they sell directly thru their own web site.  The floor was general admission and 50 dollars.  I am too old to stand and fight to get close to the stage on the floor.  The 1st tier was 60 dollars, but the first few rows were not available when the web site opened at 10 am.  I got the next tier for 40 dollars. Took about 5 minutes to search and order.  The venue holds up to 2,000 and I expect we will get some folks from North and central  Alabama along with the Atlanta area. 

 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ReaperKK on July 28, 2017, 07:20:44 PM
I"m really getting the itch to go to Raleigh and see the show. Maybe if work isn't bad I"ll drive up and come home followed by working from home the next day.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: axeman90210 on July 28, 2017, 08:38:24 PM
I"m really getting the itch to go to Raleigh and see the show. Maybe if work isn't bad I"ll drive up and come home followed by working from home the next day.

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Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 29, 2017, 05:18:47 AM
I looked at the M&G tix for the LA show and was surprised to see that the possible tix were rows AAA-M.  No way I'm paying $300 for row 18 seats.  I've done the M&G 3 tines and it was always the first 5 row crap shoot.

On further reflection, I work the day of and after the show (12hr shifts).  It's gonna be real tough to burn a  couple Vac days for the show...sigh.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on July 29, 2017, 09:28:18 AM
The Nashville show is War Memorial and they sell directly thru their own web site.  The floor was general admission and 50 dollars.  I am too old to stand and fight to get close to the stage on the floor.  The 1st tier was 60 dollars, but the first few rows were not available when the web site opened at 10 am.  I got the next tier for 40 dollars. Took about 5 minutes to search and order.  The venue holds up to 2,000 and I expect we will get some folks from North and central  Alabama along with the Atlanta area.

I know GA floor isn't for everyone, but I really wish they had a GA pit for either of the shows I am going to.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Architeuthis on July 29, 2017, 10:50:23 AM
I decided not to see YES this year because I was saving my money to see Dream Theater. Well The Great Debate turned into the great disappointment as DT boycotted Seattle and the great northwest. So now I guess I'm going to see YES in early September. Not really Yes without Jon Anderson but at least it's something to do.   :-\
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mike099 on July 29, 2017, 12:18:26 PM
The Nashville show is War Memorial and they sell directly thru their own web site.  The floor was general admission and 50 dollars.  I am too old to stand and fight to get close to the stage on the floor.  The 1st tier was 60 dollars, but the first few rows were not available when the web site opened at 10 am.  I got the next tier for 40 dollars. Took about 5 minutes to search and order.  The venue holds up to 2,000 and I expect we will get some folks from North and central  Alabama along with the Atlanta area.

I know GA floor isn't for everyone, but I really wish they had a GA pit for either of the shows I am going to.

I saw the Opeth/Gojira show at War Memorial and the pit was fun to watch especially with Gojira. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Lethean on July 29, 2017, 12:24:29 PM
I looked at the M&G tix for the LA show and was surprised to see that the possible tix were rows AAA-M.  No way I'm paying $300 for row 18 seats.  I've done the M&G 3 tines and it was always the first 5 row crap shoot.

I did the meet and greet on TA and for I&W in Europe, and I knew exactly what seat I was getting when I purchased it.  I'm with you - not paying that kind of money without knowing where I'll end up.  I did it for Rush once (no M&G, just premium seats), bought my tix the second they went on sale, and ended up in 15th row.  Never again.  Hopefully more people will feel the same, sales for this will be done (just these presales, not the whole show), and they'll stop the shenanigans. For those prices you should be able to see your exact seat so you can pass it it's too far back or too far to the sides for your liking.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on July 29, 2017, 05:22:24 PM
Purchased my ticket for the Dallas show today. It seemed silly to pay the $30 extra to be marginally closer, so I'm posted up in Row L.

Also, I'm back on this forum after a five-year absence, and that's pretty weird, man.
:tup
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 30, 2017, 09:42:52 AM
Purchased my ticket for the Dallas show today. It seemed silly to pay the $30 extra to be marginally closer, so I'm posted up in Row L.

Also, I'm back on this forum after a five-year absence, and that's pretty weird, man.
:tup

Has it really been 5 years?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: wolfandwolfandwolf on July 31, 2017, 09:51:13 PM
Purchased my ticket for the Dallas show today. It seemed silly to pay the $30 extra to be marginally closer, so I'm posted up in Row L.

Also, I'm back on this forum after a five-year absence, and that's pretty weird, man.
:tup

Has it really been 5 years?
Yes. I think my last log in was before I was married. I've been married for 5 years now. Love the band as much now as I did then and miss talking about them!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: geeeemo on August 01, 2017, 10:55:53 AM
I am planning on buying tickets tomorrow for Denver during the pre-sale.  I noticed that through the DT website to purchase, it directs you to Sound Rink.  I also went to the venue website - Paramount Theater.  It directs you to Altitude Tickets.  I called Paramount and got a  password for the pre sale - SHARKS - .. Is one better than the other?  I am actually traveling tomorrow and fortunately will have about 30 mins in between planes during the time the sale starts.  I do need to be efficient though and don't want to be going to one and then it doesn't work.  Any tips would be great!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Scottjf8 on August 01, 2017, 11:33:55 AM
Purchased my ticket for the Dallas show today. It seemed silly to pay the $30 extra to be marginally closer, so I'm posted up in Row L.

Also, I'm back on this forum after a five-year absence, and that's pretty weird, man.
:tup

Has it really been 5 years?
Yes. I think my last log in was before I was married. I've been married for 5 years now. Love the band as much now as I did then and miss talking about them!

I'm new here but live in Dallas too (McKinney) and got 4th row center. Cant wait.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cfmoran13 on August 01, 2017, 12:09:42 PM
Whoo hoo!  My tickets have been printed and will be shipping shortly.   :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: earlilano on August 01, 2017, 12:21:28 PM
Whoo hoo!  My tickets have been printed and will be shipping shortly.   :metal

Did you buy from Soundrink presale? If yes how was the seat? Did they email you informing the seat? I bought through Soundrink for the Wiltern show and they told me I would get my seat assignment sometime this week.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Architeuthis on August 01, 2017, 12:59:16 PM
I might be going to the NYC show at the Beacon Theater. My brother is a pilot for Jet Blu and can get me free passes to fly there from Washington state.
Should I get my tix asap? I'm thinking DT could easily sell out The Beacon Theater.
Plus I've never been to NYC..
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 01, 2017, 01:03:00 PM
I might be going to the NYC show at the Beacon Theater. My brother is a pilot for Jet Blu and can get me free passes to fly there from Washington state.
Should I get my tix asap? I'm thinking DT could easily sell out The Beacon Theater.
Plus I've never been to NYC..

I don't think you need to get them ASAP.  I've seen DT the last two times at the Beacon and I don't believe they sold out either times although both times it was pretty packed.  I'd say you only need to buy them ASAP if you want to make sure you get the seat of your choosing.  If you do that, you could possibly make it to the Asbury Park show too that Saturday. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Architeuthis on August 01, 2017, 01:14:03 PM
Cool thanks cramx3!  That sounds like a fine idea hitting both shows..  :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 01, 2017, 01:23:44 PM
Cool thanks cramx3!  That sounds like a fine idea hitting both shows..  :metal

No problem.  I'm actually making a long weekend out of it since the Friday between both DT shows I have a ticket to see HIM in NYC so it looks like it's turning into a mini local concert vacation.  I live close to Asbury so if you end up going, let me know if you have any questions or anything.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Architeuthis on August 01, 2017, 01:34:06 PM
I certainly will. I'll P.M. you if I make it out that way for either or both of the shows. Its cool to meet people from the forums here too. I got to meet jammin-dude at a Symphony X show in Seattle. Way cool person!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cfmoran13 on August 01, 2017, 01:50:04 PM
Whoo hoo!  My tickets have been printed and will be shipping shortly.   :metal

Did you buy from Soundrink presale? If yes how was the seat? Did they email you informing the seat? I bought through Soundrink for the Wiltern show and they told me I would get my seat assignment sometime this week.

I got my tix through Ticketmaster when they had their presale last week.

I might be going to the NYC show at the Beacon Theater. My brother is a pilot for Jet Blu and can get me free passes to fly there from Washington state.
Should I get my tix asap? I'm thinking DT could easily sell out The Beacon Theater.
Plus I've never been to NYC..

I don't think you need to get them ASAP.  I've seen DT the last two times at the Beacon and I don't believe they sold out either times although both times it was pretty packed.  I'd say you only need to buy them ASAP if you want to make sure you get the seat of your choosing.  If you do that, you could possibly make it to the Asbury Park show too that Saturday.
What he said.  If you want to make sure you get the best seating, I'd jump on the Beacon tix when they go onsale later this week. 

As for Asbury, there are still plenty of seats available.  If it were 2002 and MP was still in the band, I'd say go for both shows since they'd be different set lists.  These days, at most, there'd be one different song.  Not much reason to go to both, other than to go to multiple DT shows.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 01, 2017, 02:07:12 PM
There won't be any repeating songs, but that doesn't mean there's no reason to see more than one show.  Different experiences.  However, I totally get why someone would only care to see the show once.

I know for me, Images and Words is my all time favorite album for any band.  Learning To Live is my favorite DT track.  I've never seen them play that song out of the 14 times seeing them.  I think this is the last opportunity for me to check out some of these tracks live, including ACOS.  So I find value in seeing the show multiple times.  But that's just me, I'm also really into seeing concerts and enjoying the live experience being part of the crowd, cheering, having fun with random people, and whatnot.  Not everyone is into that.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cfmoran13 on August 01, 2017, 02:32:28 PM
There won't be any repeating songs, but that doesn't mean there's no reason to see more than one show.  Different experiences.  However, I totally get why someone would only care to see the show once.

I know for me, Images and Words is my all time favorite album for any band.  Learning To Live is my favorite DT track.  I've never seen them play that song out of the 14 times seeing them.  I think this is the last opportunity for me to check out some of these tracks live, including ACOS.  So I find value in seeing the show multiple times.  But that's just me, I'm also really into seeing concerts and enjoying the live experience being part of the crowd, cheering, having fun with random people, and whatnot.  Not everyone is into that.
Totally agree.  That was me before a house and kid.  These days, I need to budget my time/money for "me" things a little more than I had to when it was just me.  Now, unless I'm getting something different like when I saw them 2 consecutive nights at the Beacon on the SDoIT tour, it's not a priority.  These days, if I get to 2-3 concerts in a year, it's a lot. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: WebRaider on August 01, 2017, 06:23:54 PM
Curious to those who purchased tickets to the shows that went on sale last week. If you didn't purchase tickets through Sound Rink and instead through Ticketmaster/Livenation when did those presales begin in relation to the Sound Rink presales. As I understand it Sound Rink presales began at 10am on Wed of last week? After that when did the Ticketmaster/Livenation presales begin? Thanks for any help or info you all could share :)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on August 01, 2017, 09:05:37 PM
Webraider, for several cities, the SoundRink VIP package presale was last Wednesday at 10am, and the Ticketmaster/Live Nation presale was Thursday at 10am.  FYI, I scooped up 3rd row pit tickets at the Ticketmaster Thursday presale.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 01, 2017, 10:43:07 PM
Nooooo! Presales for Albuquerque and Houston won't go on sale tomorrow.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 02, 2017, 06:59:36 AM
Webraider, for several cities, the SoundRink VIP package presale was last Wednesday at 10am, and the Ticketmaster/Live Nation presale was Thursday at 10am.  FYI, I scooped up 3rd row pit tickets at the Ticketmaster Thursday presale.

That seems to be the case for the NYC show as well going on sale today, tomorrow, and friday for all.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 02, 2017, 08:52:04 AM
Anyone know the pre-sale password for Peoria Illinois that go on sale tomorrow? Or where I'd go to learn that?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on August 02, 2017, 10:29:20 AM
From DT's Facebook

"Since tour dates are still in flux, we're moving James Labrie's FB live video chat. As soon as we have solid tour dates to give you, we'll get back in touch with the details. Stay close!"

More US dates?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: MasterLomaxus on August 02, 2017, 10:31:03 AM
From DT's Facebook

"Since tour dates are still in flux, we're moving James Labrie's FB live video chat. As soon as we have solid tour dates to give you, we'll get back in touch with the details. Stay close!"

More US dates?

I think Jordan did mention something about more dates in one of his videos.  However, I was under the impression he meant other Asian dates, or maybe South America or something.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 02, 2017, 10:39:50 AM
From DT's Facebook

"Since tour dates are still in flux, we're moving James Labrie's FB live video chat. As soon as we have solid tour dates to give you, we'll get back in touch with the details. Stay close!"

More US dates?

I think Jordan did mention something about more dates in one of his videos.  However, I was under the impression he meant other Asian dates, or maybe South America or something.

They did just announce another asian date recently.  Is it possible they are also talking about JLB solo tour dates?  He mentioned he may be doing that in 2018.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: earlilano on August 02, 2017, 11:57:00 AM
Webraider, for several cities, the SoundRink VIP package presale was last Wednesday at 10am, and the Ticketmaster/Live Nation presale was Thursday at 10am.  FYI, I scooped up 3rd row pit tickets at the Ticketmaster Thursday presale.

I'm going to be pissed if I get bad seats from SoundRink. If I knew I could still get good seats from the Ticektmaster/Live Nation presale, I would have gone that route.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 02, 2017, 12:39:48 PM
There won't be any repeating songs, but that doesn't mean there's no reason to see more than one show.  Different experiences.  However, I totally get why someone would only care to see the show once.
You're half right here. Some bands can bring a very different vibe from one show to the next, even keeping the same set. I've seen plenty of bands on consecutive nights put on very different shows. DT isn't really one of them, though. It's like seeing Roger Waters. The show is so choreographed there's no room for variation. About the best you can really hope for is that they make mistakes here and there (and I love seeing bands make mistakes).

I might catch the Austin or Houston show, as well as Dallas, but it'll only be for the reason you mentioned. An opportunity to see a great song twice. I won't expect anything different at all about the performances, though.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on August 02, 2017, 04:56:13 PM
Webraider, for several cities, the SoundRink VIP package presale was last Wednesday at 10am, and the Ticketmaster/Live Nation presale was Thursday at 10am.  FYI, I scooped up 3rd row pit tickets at the Ticketmaster Thursday presale.

I'm going to be pissed if I get bad seats from SoundRink. If I knew I could still get good seats from the Ticektmaster/Live Nation presale, I would have gone that route.

If you purchased the SoundRink presale early Wednesday morning , I'm sure you'll get decent seats. My issues were (1) I found out about the presale late Wed afternoon, hurting my chances of preferred availability (2) when I was curious to see the tickets were left, the site kept looping me back to the sign in page, and (3) then I learned that the VIP tickets would be assigned in October, and could be Row M.   
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on August 02, 2017, 05:22:41 PM
Got my tickets to the Asbury Park show. :metal

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Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 02, 2017, 05:23:23 PM
 :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gm5k on August 02, 2017, 05:59:04 PM
Was ready RIGHT at 10:00 AM on the Austin presale...best I could get was row 15 for 4 seats next to each other.  I checked later and row 8 was available for the same situation.  I was a bit livid even though I'm sure it's my fault for not being familiar with these kinda ticket buying situations and not listening to you guys.  I called the office and haggled my way into row 13 right middle seats which are awesome for that venue (Lady on phone said really the best view for a band actually)

Even more awesome is my buddy's wife managed to snag the other 4 (there's 8 DT fans here in total) in that row 8 I saw.  That's where I'll be sitting with my hardcore DT fan friends.  The other 4 who are more casual fans will sit in the 13th row which is still awesome.  We're all so excited  :metal

Looking at venue seating the experience probably shouldn't be that different between these rows.  Venue looks epic as hell  :tup

Edit:  The woman on the phone said the attention this concert was getting for a presale was pretty insane comparatively with other concerts.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 02, 2017, 06:07:35 PM
I love choosing your own seats. Got Sec.4 Row B seat 2. But I wanted the VIP. Hopefully they'll have an add on for us here in Albuquerque.

A bit upset that their FB said no presales. Yet they didn't bother mentioning Ticketmaster will be doing presales today.

All these should've been settled before the dates. Unless they were last minute decisions. JR was here in New Mexico like a month ago.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 02, 2017, 08:24:54 PM
Scratch the above. VIP just went on sale and snatched those up right away...I'd be happy if I got dead center front row. Anywhere here is a good seat.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: volwrath on August 03, 2017, 07:10:42 AM
The Nashville show is War Memorial and they sell directly thru their own web site.  The floor was general admission and 50 dollars.  I am too old to stand and fight to get close to the stage on the floor.  The 1st tier was 60 dollars, but the first few rows were not available when the web site opened at 10 am.  I got the next tier for 40 dollars. Took about 5 minutes to search and order.  The venue holds up to 2,000 and I expect we will get some folks from North and central  Alabama along with the Atlanta area.

Meh. I dont know how I missed this thread and here they are coming to Nashville and the damn tix are apparently sold out.  I guess I am going to have to pony up.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 03, 2017, 07:15:13 AM
Sooo 45 minutes until the presale for NYC and the show is now missing on ticketmaster (it was there yesterday and previously this week).  It's not livenation but says there is no pre-sale.  wtf
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 03, 2017, 07:15:50 AM
I forgot to say. I had no problem with Soundrink. Used my Google to login and paid no problem. It was a smooth transaction.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: WebRaider on August 03, 2017, 08:07:23 AM
If by chance anyone should come across a presale code for the presale today if you could kindly share I would be extremely thankful.

Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 03, 2017, 08:13:46 AM
Looks like there isn't even one for NYC today.  I posted on DT's official event page on facebook and my post was not approved (I simply asked if the presale was happening today since the event disappeared on ticketmaster, also having to approve posts is lame).  Really poor job here DT.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bwm09d on August 03, 2017, 08:18:23 AM
Code for beacon is DREAM, I couldn't get two together so now I'm going by myself in the orchestra row DD. I love this band, but they're about as fan unfriendly as any band I've ever seen, as of recent. The stupid teasers, lack of discernible information on purchasing tickets, the exorbitant prices.... I just paid $148, and to put it in perspective I saw Metallica and avenged sevenfold 5 rows up near the stage at soldier field for $30 more dollars.... with the stage production being incredible. Sure I'll see comments about the band not selling the same amount of tickets blablabla.

Im never going to another show again if they keep this up. They're completely tone deaf towards their fans, and from reading comments on this forum I know I'm not alone in feeling this way.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: HolidaysAnoraks on August 03, 2017, 08:23:09 AM
Anyone have the code for Raleigh?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: vtgrad on August 03, 2017, 08:43:14 AM
Anyone have the code for Raleigh?

Going to double that request... anyone know the code?  Hef, do you know it or are you waiting for the general sale tomorrow?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 03, 2017, 08:45:09 AM
Code for beacon is DREAM, I couldn't get two together so now I'm going by myself in the orchestra row DD. I love this band, but they're about as fan unfriendly as any band I've ever seen, as of recent. The stupid teasers, lack of discernible information on purchasing tickets, the exorbitant prices.... I just paid $148, and to put it in perspective I saw Metallica and avenged sevenfold 5 rows up near the stage at soldier field for $30 more dollars.... with the stage production being incredible. Sure I'll see comments about the band not selling the same amount of tickets blablabla.

Im never going to another show again if they keep this up. They're completely tone deaf towards their fans, and from reading comments on this forum I know I'm not alone in feeling this way.

Thanks for sharing the code, it wasn't until you posted this that I refreshed again (I had all but given up on trying to get tickets today) and the event now appeared for me. 

I got two tickets first row on lower balcony.  My friend wanted to get the best available, which would have been row L on the floor, but I opted to get first row balcony over middle floor.  Should have a great view with no obstructions from there.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: WebRaider on August 03, 2017, 08:46:53 AM
Anyone have the code for Raleigh?

Going to double that request... anyone know the code?  Hef, do you know it or are you waiting for the general sale tomorrow?
Anyone have the code for Raleigh?


I guessed it!  (IMAGES) Enjoy guys! :D
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: vtgrad on August 03, 2017, 08:48:11 AM
Anyone have the code for Raleigh?

Going to double that request... anyone know the code?  Hef, do you know it or are you waiting for the general sale tomorrow?
Anyone have the code for Raleigh?


I guessed it!  (IMAGES) Enjoy guys! :D

That's what I'm talkin' bout... buy this man a c-gar!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: wannabepba on August 03, 2017, 09:03:11 AM
Long time lurker on the forums, but man this tour is one of the strangest I've seen logistically so far...
I guess there is no Austin TM/LN presale show isn't even up on the TM search. At least the sound rink presale wasn't selling anything closer than the 10th Row or so, so hoping to be able to snag a close ticket tomorrow but was hoping for a presale.

Disappointed in no FL dates but hitting Dallas and hopefully Austin, as well as NJ. Love the band but as others have said, their latest tours have been frustrating to navigate from a fan's perspective.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: MasterLomaxus on August 03, 2017, 09:07:59 AM
Anyone else get Peoria presale tickets? I got mine through Ticketmaster.  I actually decided to go with the Box Seats, which are along the wall. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: HolidaysAnoraks on August 03, 2017, 09:18:12 AM
Thanks so much WebRaider! Now to count down the days!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 03, 2017, 09:33:16 AM
Anyone else get Peoria presale tickets? I got mine through Ticketmaster.  I actually decided to go with the Box Seats, which are along the wall.

I just did. Being that this is going to be 2 of my sons first concert, I bought 1st row balcony seats so they wouldn't have anyone in front of them. Plus, that should be a cool view for them.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 03, 2017, 09:34:40 AM
I guessed it!  (IMAGES) Enjoy guys! :D

Did the same thing. Just figured it had to be something like IMAGES or DREAM.....  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: powpig on August 03, 2017, 10:18:05 AM
Been lurking awhile, finally got signed up and approved.
Got 3 pretty good seats last week in the TM presale for the US Tour opener in Oakland, ORCH Row M on Petrucci's side.
Then I got lucky and pulled some better seats in the public sale the next day.
So I need to unload the presale seats I got if anyone got shut out.  I paid $306, just looking to recoup.
Only 3 more months.....
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 03, 2017, 11:03:58 AM
Long time lurker on the forums, but man this tour is one of the strangest I've seen logistically so far...
I guess there is no Austin TM/LN presale show isn't even up on the TM search. At least the sound rink presale wasn't selling anything closer than the 10th Row or so, so hoping to be able to snag a close ticket tomorrow but was hoping for a presale.

Disappointed in no FL dates but hitting Dallas and hopefully Austin, as well as NJ. Love the band but as others have said, their latest tours have been frustrating to navigate from a fan's perspective.

Was ready RIGHT at 10:00 AM on the Austin presale...best I could get was row 15 for 4 seats next to each other.  I checked later and row 8 was available for the same situation.  I was a bit livid even though I'm sure it's my fault for not being familiar with these kinda ticket buying situations and not listening to you guys.  I called the office and haggled my way into row 13 right middle seats which are awesome for that venue (Lady on phone said really the best view for a band actually)

Even more awesome is my buddy's wife managed to snag the other 4 (there's 8 DT fans here in total) in that row 8 I saw.  That's where I'll be sitting with my hardcore DT fan friends.  The other 4 who are more casual fans will sit in the 13th row which is still awesome.  We're all so excited  :metal

Looking at venue seating the experience probably shouldn't be that different between these rows.  Venue looks epic as hell  :tup

Edit:  The woman on the phone said the attention this concert was getting for a presale was pretty insane comparatively with other concerts.
I'll suggest to you both that you don't want to be too close at this particular venue. I'm not sure where the cutoff is, but my front row experience there was pretty awful. There's a point where you're behind the arrays and get nothing but stage-fill. Sounded terrible and made my head hurt for hours afterward. My hunch is that probably only the first couple of rows are effected, but it's something to mindful of.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mike099 on August 03, 2017, 11:55:45 AM
The Nashville show is War Memorial and they sell directly thru their own web site.  The floor was general admission and 50 dollars.  I am too old to stand and fight to get close to the stage on the floor.  The 1st tier was 60 dollars, but the first few rows were not available when the web site opened at 10 am.  I got the next tier for 40 dollars. Took about 5 minutes to search and order.  The venue holds up to 2,000 and I expect we will get some folks from North and central  Alabama along with the Atlanta area.

Meh. I dont know how I missed this thread and here they are coming to Nashville and the damn tix are apparently sold out.  I guess I am going to have to pony up.

Did you try the war memorial site? I just went in to the war memorial website and there are tickets available.  I bought mine the first day and already have my ticket.

Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 03, 2017, 12:06:30 PM
Nashville isn't sold out. I just pulled 3rd row balcony out of curiosity. There are GA seats and a lot of the balconies remain. I don't think DT would sell out a 2k seat venue that fast, even in NYC.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: hefdaddy42 on August 03, 2017, 01:00:27 PM
Got my Raleigh tix today. Sorry I didn't see the posts above, yes, the code was IMAGES.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: volwrath on August 03, 2017, 01:11:56 PM

Did you try the war memorial site? I just went in to the war memorial website and there are tickets available.  I bought mine the first day and already have my ticket.

I just was able to buy them no problem. Weird. I guess the site was having problems this morning when I tried.  Thanks for the tip!

Nashville isn't sold out. I just pulled 3rd row balcony out of curiosity. There are GA seats and a lot of the balconies remain. I don't think DT would sell out a 2k seat venue that fast, even in NYC.

Yea I was a bit shocked that they would sell out that fast, especially in Nashville, where you don't get tons of of great bands touring.  So much for music city... Thanks it must have abeen a site hiccup or something.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gm5k on August 04, 2017, 12:11:23 AM
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I'll suggest to you both that you don't want to be too close at this particular venue. I'm not sure where the cutoff is, but my front row experience there was pretty awful. There's a point where you're behind the arrays and get nothing but stage-fill. Sounded terrible and made my head hurt for hours afterward. My hunch is that probably only the first couple of rows are effected, but it's something to mindful of.
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Appreciate your thoughts.  It's 8 of us like I said, 4 of us in row 8 and the other 4 in row 13.  Seems we should be alright...I hope  ;D

Edit: Sorry for the quotes screwup...was trying to make post smaller but just ended up screwing it up.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on August 04, 2017, 06:19:32 AM
Got me a ticket for the Raleigh show. Tenth row, $88 after stupid Ticketmaster fees. I'm really excited. I wonder if they will change up the setlist at all?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mike099 on August 04, 2017, 11:56:28 AM
Got me a ticket for the Raleigh show. Tenth row, $88 after stupid Ticketmaster fees. I'm really excited. I wonder if they will change up the setlist at all?

I was curious about the Raleigh venue as compared to the Nashville venue.  The Raleigh venue capacity is about 350 more than Nashville.  Of course the big difference is the Raleigh venue is beautiful and modern and the Nashville venue is bland and old.  However, I saw Opeth/Gojira at War Memorial and the sound was great along with the crowd, more so with Gojira.  Hopefully the concert will sell well and some of the Opeth/Gojira and Mastadon crowd(Ryman) will go to the DT show.

Wonder how many of the North American cities will be first timers.  Pretty sure DT has never played Nashville. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 04, 2017, 12:56:44 PM
Got my NJ ticket in the mail today, that was quick  :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ResultsMayVary on August 04, 2017, 10:39:32 PM
Got me a ticket for the Raleigh show. Tenth row, $88 after stupid Ticketmaster fees. I'm really excited. I wonder if they will change up the setlist at all?
I bet the first set will change up a few songs, but I'm certain (obviously) that we'll still get I&W in the second set and I'm confident we'll still get ACOS for the encore.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on August 05, 2017, 02:59:37 AM
There are plenty of songs that DT has showcased in Europe, but given no attention in the U.S.  Behind the Veil and Wither come to mind.  I honestly think DT should work those into the first set for the U.S.

Doubling down on this.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 05, 2017, 06:20:53 AM
There are plenty of songs that DT has showcased in Europe, but given no attention in the U.S.  Behind the Veil and Wither come to mind.  I honestly think DT should work those into the first set for the U.S.

Doubling down on this.

Yes but not at the sacrifice of the other songs from this tour that Europe got and NA has not.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Vmadera00 on August 05, 2017, 08:50:54 PM
Got my NYC tickets. Gotta say that buying tickets online has gotten out of control(and annoying) for pretty much any good show. Between scalpers and Ticketmaster it's pretty much impossible to get a good seat at a normal price. I ended up going to beacon theater and buying the tickets in person. No fees, better seats available, don't have to deal with the online BS.

With that said, pretty excited about this concert. First time I saw DT was at this same venues back in 2009. Let's hope for a good show.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Architeuthis on August 06, 2017, 10:25:18 AM
I may be going to the NYC show, got airline passes. I saw on ticketmaster.com that the cheapest seats were $54.00 on the second balcony.  Does that mean there are 2 balconies? Meaning the second balcony is way high up??
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Plasmastrike on August 09, 2017, 09:35:05 AM
I'm trying to buy tickets for the Greensburg, PA show on Nov 8, but I'm not seeing them on sale. Did I miss something? Not available on TicketMaster or DT's main site. Just VIP upgrades. Went to venue's site and almost all the seats have an X over them. I'm assuming the majority of tickets aren't available yet? Sorry for dumb question.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Shooters1221 on August 09, 2017, 09:41:05 AM
I'm trying to buy tickets for the Greensburg, PA show on Nov 8, but I'm not seeing them on sale. Did I miss something? Not available on TicketMaster or DT's main site. Just VIP upgrades. Went to venue's site and almost all the seats have an X over them. I'm assuming the majority of tickets aren't available yet? Sorry for dumb question.

Go here: https://www.elkoconcerts.com/event/1534654-dream-theater-greensburg/
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: jammindude on August 09, 2017, 09:33:08 PM
Glad I didn't follow through on my idea to buy plane tickets to the Phoenix show.  Now I'm hearing Buffalo is cancelled as well?  3 shows cancelled in all?   What the heck is going on?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 09, 2017, 09:37:33 PM
Glad I didn't follow through on my idea to buy plane tickets to the Phoenix show.  Now I'm hearing Buffalo is cancelled as well?  3 shows cancelled in all?   What the heck is going on?

Really?  More show cancellations this tour?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on August 09, 2017, 10:09:12 PM
Looks like Buffalo and Phoenix are cancelled or you can't buy tickets for them.

Looking at some of these shows on Ticketmaster, some of these shows are far from sold out. Maryland, Texas, and Raleigh, New Mexico, and one of the NY shows are mainly empty
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ReaperKK on August 10, 2017, 05:05:02 AM
Wait shows are getting cancelled?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on August 10, 2017, 07:49:37 AM
I saw on Facebook that a Texas show was cancelled as well.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 10, 2017, 08:07:52 AM
Damn, I really thought there was an audience for this show  :(
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on August 10, 2017, 08:11:38 AM
Looking through the comments on Facebook
Phoenix
Houston
Nashville
Rochester

Have all been cancelled with no reason given
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gmillerdrake on August 10, 2017, 08:16:41 AM
Damn, I really thought there was an audience for this show  :(

They might just be friggin' tired?? They've played a ton of shows already for this tour....then were gonna jam out one last US leg in two months. Could be a few reasons as to why they cancelled other than poor ticket sales.


Now I'll just keep my fingers crossed that Peoria doesn't cancel....already bought tix
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Gromit1710 on August 10, 2017, 08:36:15 AM
It appears these cities were re-booked at different venues. I'm actually surprised you guys haven't started a thread on this yet.

As of last night, Several cities and the people who purchased presale and VIP tickets at them received an email saying the show had been cancelled from SoundRink.

https://i.imgur.com/vYCl8jN.jpg

The known affected cities that I've been able to find by comparing the US venue dates between DT's official site and the cached SoundRink sale site indicate that perhaps these shows were just re-booked for as of yet unknown reasons. DT's listings look to be updated and no cities have been "dropped" from the tour.

From what I can tell, the affected cities are:

    Phoenix, AZ.

Phoenix's Oct 28th date was originally booked at the Celebrity Theater. As of this morning, DT's website is listing the show now at the Chandler Center in Chandler, AZ.

    Buffalo/Niagara Falls.

Niagara Falls / Buffalo area date of November 10th has been changed from the Rapids theater to the Rochester auditorium in Rochester, NY.

    Nashville, TN

Nashville's date of November 29th at the War Memorial Auditorium has been changed to Thomas Wolfe Auditorium in Mt Caramel, TN.

    Irving, TX

The Dec 2nd date at The Pavilion at Irving Music Factory has been moved to The Pavilion in Dallas, Tx. (I'm not sure about this one, they seem to be the same place near as I can tell. Perhaps a local can chime in?)

I've not been able to find any information on how the refund / new ticket purchase thing is going to work yet. As of now, when you click through on DT's site to buy tickets for the new venues, Sound Rink still has the old ones listed.

At the time of this writing, I've not found any official statement from the band as to why the venue changes happened.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 10, 2017, 08:40:40 AM
I'm trying to buy tickets for the Greensburg, PA show on Nov 8, but I'm not seeing them on sale. Did I miss something? Not available on TicketMaster or DT's main site. Just VIP upgrades. Went to venue's site and almost all the seats have an X over them. I'm assuming the majority of tickets aren't available yet? Sorry for dumb question.

Go here: https://www.elkoconcerts.com/event/1534654-dream-theater-greensburg/

Dude, thank you for this!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: MasterLomaxus on August 10, 2017, 08:56:14 AM

    Nashville, TN

Nashville's date of November 29th at the War Memorial Auditorium has been changed to Thomas Wolfe Auditorium in Mt Caramel, TN.

I see this on DT's upcoming events page, but the Thomas Wolfe Auditorium appears to be in Asheville, NC.  That's quite the relocation unfortunately.  Oddly enough, their page says it's in Asheville, TN (which doesn't even appear to exist, as far as I can tell), so who actually knows at this point?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Gromit1710 on August 10, 2017, 09:06:19 AM

    Nashville, TN

Nashville's date of November 29th at the War Memorial Auditorium has been changed to Thomas Wolfe Auditorium in Mt Caramel, TN.

I see this on DT's upcoming events page, but the Thomas Wolfe Auditorium appears to be in Asheville, NC.  That's quite the relocation unfortunately.  Oddly enough, their page says it's in Asheville, TN (which doesn't even appear to exist, as far as I can tell), so who actually knows at this point?

I've made an OP for discussion about this here https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50671.0
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on August 10, 2017, 09:41:39 AM
This entire tour cycle has been a problem from the booking standpoint.  Not sure if it is whoever is responsible internally or if there is some problem in the chain between DT's internal booking at the promoters, but this is an issue that needs addressing, as it only generates bad PR from fans who don't understand what's going on. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on August 10, 2017, 09:47:49 AM
If it's one thing I think MP understood that the guys today don't understand, it's PR. I know that they are focused on other things but they should really take a look at their Facebook and see the 6 month long teasing of North American dates and how people reacted to that. Now that they are announced, they are being cancelled and rescheduled and websites aren't reflecting the changes. This has been a mess

PR is the wrong word because of how MP is online. But I think he was more hands on and would have stepped in by now
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on August 10, 2017, 10:07:56 AM
Oh, I think they "get it" just fine.  It's just that they are less hands-on in the process than MP was and trust the crew assigned to that task to handle their business (which the vast majority of musicians not named Mike Portnoy do as well), and someone on that crew appears to be dropping the ball.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on August 10, 2017, 10:14:40 AM
Yeah, not getting it is the wrong word and I apologize, I guess it's just jarring sometimes and these problems didn't happen after MP left but these past few tours have been kind of weird. I just also wonder if they know what's happening right now and at what point they step in.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 10, 2017, 10:48:55 AM
someone on that crew appears to be dropping the ball.

I think that's an understatement.  This tour announcement is maybe the worst I've seen of any band personally.  Between the "soon"s, the poor initial announcement with websites not being updated and ticket sales not starting on time, sounrink not telling you where you are sitting, to now shows being rescheduled.  This is a disaster.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Shooters1221 on August 10, 2017, 12:02:25 PM
I'm trying to buy tickets for the Greensburg, PA show on Nov 8, but I'm not seeing them on sale. Did I miss something? Not available on TicketMaster or DT's main site. Just VIP upgrades. Went to venue's site and almost all the seats have an X over them. I'm assuming the majority of tickets aren't available yet? Sorry for dumb question.

Go here: https://www.elkoconcerts.com/event/1534654-dream-theater-greensburg/

Your quite welcome, I'm worried about ticket sales here...still a ton of great seats. I'll be there though!

Dude, thank you for this!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 10, 2017, 01:22:47 PM
^ Honestly, part of the poor ticket sales might be how and where you can get tickets, it's kinda confusing what has been sold and what hasn't.

I went on the Palace Theater website, and it looked like most of the floor was sold and about half the second level, which is pretty good this far out. Little did I know there were more tickets available through Elko. Much better tickets.  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 10, 2017, 01:27:33 PM
^ Honestly, part of the poor ticket sales might be how and where you can get tickets, it's kinda confusing what has been sold and what hasn't.

I went on the Palace Theater website, and it looked like most of the floor was sold and about half the second level, which is pretty good this far out. Little did I know there were more tickets available through Elko. Much better tickets.  :lol
It sure seems that way. I just went to TM and bought tickets like a normal person, but all of this competing ticketing and whateverthefuck that Soundfink thing is has really been peculiar. Don't recall a situation like this happening before.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 10, 2017, 01:32:55 PM
^ Honestly, part of the poor ticket sales might be how and where you can get tickets, it's kinda confusing what has been sold and what hasn't.

I went on the Palace Theater website, and it looked like most of the floor was sold and about half the second level, which is pretty good this far out. Little did I know there were more tickets available through Elko. Much better tickets.  :lol
It sure seems that way. I just went to TM and bought tickets like a normal person, but all of this competing ticketing and whateverthefuck that Soundfink thing is has really been peculiar. Don't recall a situation like this happening before.

Totally agree.  These sales are definitely a head scratcher. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 10, 2017, 01:39:21 PM
^ Honestly, part of the poor ticket sales might be how and where you can get tickets, it's kinda confusing what has been sold and what hasn't.

I went on the Palace Theater website, and it looked like most of the floor was sold and about half the second level, which is pretty good this far out. Little did I know there were more tickets available through Elko. Much better tickets.  :lol
It sure seems that way. I just went to TM and bought tickets like a normal person, but all of this competing ticketing and whateverthefuck that Soundfink thing is has really been peculiar. Don't recall a situation like this happening before.

The other curve ball is pricing. Looks like on Ticketmaster tickets are a good $20 more at each level than if I bought them through the venue or the promoter direct.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 10, 2017, 01:41:03 PM
^ Honestly, part of the poor ticket sales might be how and where you can get tickets, it's kinda confusing what has been sold and what hasn't.

I went on the Palace Theater website, and it looked like most of the floor was sold and about half the second level, which is pretty good this far out. Little did I know there were more tickets available through Elko. Much better tickets.  :lol
It sure seems that way. I just went to TM and bought tickets like a normal person, but all of this competing ticketing and whateverthefuck that Soundfink thing is has really been peculiar. Don't recall a situation like this happening before.

The other curve ball is pricing. Looks like on Ticketmaster tickets are a good $20 more at each level than if I bought them through the venue or the promoter direct.

Are those resale tickets? 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 10, 2017, 01:44:10 PM
^From who ticketmaster?

Edit - yes, it looks like they are resale tickets on Ticketmaster.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 10, 2017, 01:53:38 PM
^From who ticketmaster?

Edit - yes, it looks like they are resale tickets on Ticketmaster.
LOL. In the 3 seconds it took for me to read those three posts I was already well into the planning stages of my class action suit against Ticketmaster, Dream Theater, Soundfink, Bosk, and whoever else I could dream up.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 10, 2017, 01:56:19 PM
Ive seen that before (I was just scoping out Incubus tickets on ticketmaster and saw the same thing).  If ticketmaster isnt the official seller for the show (AXS was for the incubus tickets I was looking at), people can still list their tickets for resale on it and it almost looks like normal tickets unless you notice the smaller font saying its a resale (or it's a red dot, not blue dot on the seating chart).
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on August 10, 2017, 02:07:47 PM
I've not gone to so many concerts because of Ticketmaster.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 10, 2017, 02:15:17 PM
As much as ticketmaster is a pain, I try not to let it be the reason to stop me from having a good time.  I've just come to accept that there will be at $20 more ontop of whatever they list the price as.

Although ticketmaster totally saved my ass last weekend.  I actually somehow lost my ticket right before entering a sold out concert.  But since I bought it on ticketmaster the box office was able to print me a new ticket.  I was about to go home crying  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on August 10, 2017, 02:22:57 PM
TM's fees are on par with every other ticketing agency.  I've always thought most of the bitching about TM wasn't really deserved, since the fact is they usually provide a far better service.

As much as ticketmaster is a pain, I try not to let it be the reason to stop me from having a good time.  I've just come to accept that there will be at $20 more ontop of whatever they list the price as.

Although ticketmaster totally saved my ass last weekend.  I actually somehow lost my ticket right before entering a sold out concert.  But since I bought it on ticketmaster the box office was able to print me a new ticket.  I was about to go home crying  :lol
I always upload the PDF to my phone, as well as taking the paper copy. Or, I just pick it up at will-call. Or, I take my ticket and the receipt so I can do what you did. Since a great many of my shows are on the road I take no chances. Though I'm guessing at this point they could just swipe my CC without even needing a receipt.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 10, 2017, 02:35:36 PM
^From who ticketmaster?

Edit - yes, it looks like they are resale tickets on Ticketmaster.
LOL. In the 3 seconds it took for me to read those three posts I was already well into the planning stages of my class action suit against Ticketmaster, Dream Theater, Soundfink, Bosk, and whoever else I could dream up.

 :lol Sorry about that, but it was this...

Ive seen that before (I was just scoping out Incubus tickets on ticketmaster and saw the same thing).  If ticketmaster isnt the official seller for the show (AXS was for the incubus tickets I was looking at), people can still list their tickets for resale on it and it almost looks like normal tickets unless you notice the smaller font saying its a resale (or it's a red dot, not blue dot on the seating chart).

Hard to tell at first look!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on August 10, 2017, 02:38:55 PM
TM's fees are on par with every other ticketing agency.  I've always thought most of the bitching about TM wasn't really deserved, since the fact is they usually provide a far better service.

As much as ticketmaster is a pain, I try not to let it be the reason to stop me from having a good time.  I've just come to accept that there will be at $20 more ontop of whatever they list the price as.

Although ticketmaster totally saved my ass last weekend.  I actually somehow lost my ticket right before entering a sold out concert.  But since I bought it on ticketmaster the box office was able to print me a new ticket.  I was about to go home crying  :lol
I always upload the PDF to my phone, as well as taking the paper copy. Or, I just pick it up at will-call. Or, I take my ticket and the receipt so I can do what you did. Since a great many of my shows are on the road I take no chances. Though I'm guessing at this point they could just swipe my CC without even needing a receipt.

I like my ticket stubs (since I collect them, assuming I don't lose them) so I typically pay the extra few bucks to get the physical ticket.  But it would be nice if they could both give you a ticket and pdf.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ytserush on August 10, 2017, 05:14:07 PM
I've not gone to so many concerts because of Ticketmaster.

Been doing this for years. Now that Rush has retired I'm pretty much 100 percent free of Jive Nation/Ticketbastard.

Saw Tempest a few weeks back for $20 fees included and I was 5 feet away from the stage.

Jelly Jam ($35 fees included) and I'll be closer to John Myung than I was at the Ritz on November 14, 1989.

I'm now done with that whole process.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ytserush on August 10, 2017, 05:16:47 PM
TM's fees are on par with every other ticketing agency.  I've always thought most of the bitching about TM wasn't really deserved, since the fact is they usually provide a far better service.

As much as ticketmaster is a pain, I try not to let it be the reason to stop me from having a good time.  I've just come to accept that there will be at $20 more ontop of whatever they list the price as.

Although ticketmaster totally saved my ass last weekend.  I actually somehow lost my ticket right before entering a sold out concert.  But since I bought it on ticketmaster the box office was able to print me a new ticket.  I was about to go home crying  :lol
I always upload the PDF to my phone, as well as taking the paper copy. Or, I just pick it up at will-call. Or, I take my ticket and the receipt so I can do what you did. Since a great many of my shows are on the road I take no chances. Though I'm guessing at this point they could just swipe my CC without even needing a receipt.

I like my ticket stubs (since I collect them, assuming I don't lose them) so I typically pay the extra few bucks to get the physical ticket.  But it would be nice if they could both give you a ticket and pdf.

I love ticket stubs too. Unfortunately it gets hard to justify for the extra price per ticket if you're getting more than one. Yet one more thing about the process that makes me feel like I need a shower sometimes.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Shooters1221 on August 11, 2017, 04:14:38 AM
^ Honestly, part of the poor ticket sales might be how and where you can get tickets, it's kinda confusing what has been sold and what hasn't.

I went on the Palace Theater website, and it looked like most of the floor was sold and about half the second level, which is pretty good this far out. Little did I know there were more tickets available through Elko. Much better tickets.  :lol
It sure seems that way. I just went to TM and bought tickets like a normal person, but all of this competing ticketing and whateverthefuck that Soundfink thing is has really been peculiar. Don't recall a situation like this happening before.

The other curve ball is pricing. Looks like on Ticketmaster tickets are a good $20 more at each level than if I bought them through the venue or the promoter direct.

And those pre-sale prices were totally fucked. I'll bet that a lot of people that don't really know any better probably saw the initial pricing and said 'forget that'. Glad to hear the Palace is doing better than I thought, there always seems to be a good DT crowd there since they started playing that venue.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 11, 2017, 06:46:54 AM
And those pre-sale prices were totally fucked. I'll bet that a lot of people that don't really know any better probably saw the initial pricing and said 'forget that'. Glad to hear the Palace is doing better than I thought, there always seems to be a good DT crowd there since they started playing that venue.

Honestly, I purposely avoided pre-sale because I knew the show wasn't going to sell out right away or anything and that I'd be able to get a decent seat at a decent price later on (which is all I need).

I'd imagine by the time this show rolls around it'll be either close to a sell out or it will sell out. Both the DT12 tour and TA tour shows at that venue were pretty darn full, so I'd imagine this tour and set would draw just as good if not better for them.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Shooters1221 on August 11, 2017, 08:46:48 AM
And those pre-sale prices were totally fucked. I'll bet that a lot of people that don't really know any better probably saw the initial pricing and said 'forget that'. Glad to hear the Palace is doing better than I thought, there always seems to be a good DT crowd there since they started playing that venue.

Honestly, I purposely avoided pre-sale because I knew the show wasn't going to sell out right away or anything and that I'd be able to get a decent seat at a decent price later on (which is all I need).

I'd imagine by the time this show rolls around it'll be either close to a sell out or it will sell out. Both the DT12 tour and TA tour shows at that venue were pretty darn full, so I'd imagine this tour and set would draw just as good if not better for them.

Actually, there were no pre-sale tickets through soundrink for the palace show, only VIP. I was referring to some of the other venues, and I also waited it until Fri. the 4th. I did check on the 3rd as to where to buy them from and saw nothing through TM, so i just googled DT and the date and Elko came up...WHEW!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 11, 2017, 08:49:26 AM
Actually, there were no pre-sale tickets through soundrink for the palace show, only VIP. I was referring to some of the other venues, and I also waited it until Fri. the 4th. I did check on the 3rd as to where to buy them from and saw nothing through TM, so i just googled DT and the date and Elko came up...WHEW!

Oh wow, I didn't even know that cause I wasn't worried about pre-sale. Weird that there was pre-sale through soundrink for some shows, but not for others, and there were different dates for those pre-sales, etc... Messy.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on August 11, 2017, 12:46:19 PM
As anticipated, Soundrink is now offering VIP upgrades (no ticket) for several shows.  Maybe they've been available for days, but I just got mine yesterday.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Big Hath on August 11, 2017, 02:03:13 PM
I'm new here but live in Dallas too (McKinney) and got 4th row center. Cant wait.

just saw this after getting back from vacation.  I'm also in McKinney.  What part of town are you in?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SeRoX on August 18, 2017, 03:15:50 AM
https://www.bandsintown.com/event/15294249?artist=Dream+Theater&came_from=217

Istanbul date is added. I'm the happiest person in the world now.

See you everyone! FINALLY!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: newdull on August 18, 2017, 07:30:42 AM
^ Honestly, part of the poor ticket sales might be how and where you can get tickets, it's kinda confusing what has been sold and what hasn't.

I went on the Palace Theater website, and it looked like most of the floor was sold and about half the second level, which is pretty good this far out. Little did I know there were more tickets available through Elko. Much better tickets.  :lol

Literally just noticed this. 

While listening to Dream Theater on Pandora, it had a link to buy tickets for the Nov. 8th show @ Greensburg. (slightly creepy, but kinda cool, too.) 

Figured i'd check to see what had sold since i bought tickets, and noticed there's a hell of a lot more tickets available in the orchestra (way close, too) than what's available from the venue itself. :o :o   Weird...

Now i'm torn between buying new tickets and re-selling the ones i got, or just sticking with what i bought....  :huh: :huh:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 18, 2017, 07:56:39 AM
^ Honestly, part of the poor ticket sales might be how and where you can get tickets, it's kinda confusing what has been sold and what hasn't.

I went on the Palace Theater website, and it looked like most of the floor was sold and about half the second level, which is pretty good this far out. Little did I know there were more tickets available through Elko. Much better tickets.  :lol

Literally just noticed this. 

While listening to Dream Theater on Pandora, it had a link to buy tickets for the Nov. 8th show @ Greensburg. (slightly creepy, but kinda cool, too.) 

Figured i'd check to see what had sold since i bought tickets, and noticed there's a hell of a lot more tickets available in the orchestra (way close, too) than what's available from the venue itself. :o :o   Weird...

Now i'm torn between buying new tickets and re-selling the ones i got, or just sticking with what i bought....  :huh: :huh:

Yup, I ended up getting exactly what I wanted through Elko's site. I'm orchestra (floor), dead center, row M, which in my experience at that venue is a great spot for sound.

In and out, $60. Not bad at all for dead center 13 rows back.

Just looked on the venue's website and that whole section looks to be sold out...  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: goo-goo on August 18, 2017, 08:00:20 AM
^ Honestly, part of the poor ticket sales might be how and where you can get tickets, it's kinda confusing what has been sold and what hasn't.

I went on the Palace Theater website, and it looked like most of the floor was sold and about half the second level, which is pretty good this far out. Little did I know there were more tickets available through Elko. Much better tickets.  :lol

Literally just noticed this. 

While listening to Dream Theater on Pandora, it had a link to buy tickets for the Nov. 8th show @ Greensburg. (slightly creepy, but kinda cool, too.) 

Figured i'd check to see what had sold since i bought tickets, and noticed there's a hell of a lot more tickets available in the orchestra (way close, too) than what's available from the venue itself. :o :o   Weird...

Now i'm torn between buying new tickets and re-selling the ones i got, or just sticking with what i bought....  :huh: :huh:

I would first secure better seats before selling the tickets. I think you have ample time to sell them at least face value.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on August 18, 2017, 01:26:58 PM
I'm very curious if DT will add a show for Friday, October 27th.   They are in Los Angeles 10/26 and Phoenix 10/28.  In the past they've added shows in Los Angeles when ticket sales were strong.  The Wiltern is virtually sold out, save a few rows in the back balcony, BUT the Wiltern is not available for booking on Friday, Oct. 27!

Being only the 3rd night of the tour, I can't imagine the band needs the night off so soon, and it seems a waste of a Friday night in a valuable market.

I wonder if they are contemplating adding a show for Anaheim (the Grove) or Pomona (Fox Theater)?  Both venues appear to be available Friday, Oct 26.  Riverside, however, is not.

Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 18, 2017, 01:28:14 PM
I'm very curious if DT will add a show for Friday, October 27th.   They are in Los Angeles 10/26 and Phoenix 10/28.  In the past they've added shows in Los Angeles when ticket sales were strong.  The Wiltern is virtually sold out, save a few rows in the back balcony, BUT the Wiltern is not available for booking on Friday, Oct. 27!

Being only the 3rd night of the tour, I can't imagine the band needs the night off so soon, and it seems a waste of a Friday night in a valuable market.

I wonder if they are contemplating adding a show for Anaheim (the Grove) or Pomona (Fox Theater)?  Both venues appear to be available Friday, Oct 26.  Riverside, however, is not.




Too bad seeing them come up and playing like The Ventura Theater is not an option.

Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: newdull on August 18, 2017, 01:32:25 PM
^ Honestly, part of the poor ticket sales might be how and where you can get tickets, it's kinda confusing what has been sold and what hasn't.

I went on the Palace Theater website, and it looked like most of the floor was sold and about half the second level, which is pretty good this far out. Little did I know there were more tickets available through Elko. Much better tickets.  :lol

Literally just noticed this. 

While listening to Dream Theater on Pandora, it had a link to buy tickets for the Nov. 8th show @ Greensburg. (slightly creepy, but kinda cool, too.) 

Figured i'd check to see what had sold since i bought tickets, and noticed there's a hell of a lot more tickets available in the orchestra (way close, too) than what's available from the venue itself. :o :o   Weird...

Now i'm torn between buying new tickets and re-selling the ones i got, or just sticking with what i bought....  :huh: :huh:

Yup, I ended up getting exactly what I wanted through Elko's site. I'm orchestra (floor), dead center, row M, which in my experience at that venue is a great spot for sound.

In and out, $60. Not bad at all for dead center 13 rows back.

Just looked on the venue's website and that whole section looks to be sold out...  :lol

Exactly.  Weeks ago when i checked the venue's website almost all of the orchestra was sold out.  Just assumed Images & Words tour had more draw than The Astonishing...

Little did i know all those seats were available on another website.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: newdull on August 18, 2017, 01:35:05 PM

I would first secure better seats before selling the tickets. I think you have ample time to sell them at least face value.


That's the plan.  Hopefully i don't get stuck with two sets of tickets now...   :-[ :-[
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Yesmaestro on August 29, 2017, 07:56:27 AM
The current tour's last date is Dec 2nd in Dallas. What do you think the chances are of them adding a couple of more dates before the holidays for the Southeast like Georgia and Florida like they did for The Astonishing?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SeventhDegree on September 09, 2017, 09:04:39 AM
VERY disappointed that DT is not playing Minneapolis this time. :( Why?

They've played a show the twin cities during practically every tour in the past.  What kills me is they are playing Peoria, IL the night after they play in Chicago.  Why are they playing a city that's practically a stone's throw from Chicago?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SeventhDegree on September 09, 2017, 09:07:13 AM
The current tour's last date is Dec 2nd in Dallas. What do you think the chances are of them adding a couple of more dates before the holidays for the Southeast like Georgia and Florida like they did for The Astonishing?

Or perhaps Minneapolis?...which they're passing by this time. :(
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: dream416 on September 09, 2017, 07:38:14 PM
Which city the band is playing has nothing to do with them.....It all has to do with a promotor in your city.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on September 09, 2017, 09:52:44 PM
Which city the band is playing has nothing to do with them.....It all has to do with a promotor in your city.

100% this.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: fanoprog on September 22, 2017, 10:10:04 AM
Hi All,  I just joined this forum and am a long time DT fan.   I've bought tickets to the Nov 14th show in Albany , NY  from Sound Rink as part of the pre-sale.  This is the first time I've used Sound Rink. They say that they will mail the tickets to me about 2 weeks before the show.

Has anyone used Sound Rink?  Can I count on getting the tickets from Sound Rink?  Has anyone had issues with Sound Rink?

By the way, Sound Rink still has tickets for sale for Albany and I'm pretty sure that those tickets for sale at Sound Rink are not for sale by Ticketmaster.  So, if you want tickets to the Albany show, I suggest you check both Sound Rink and Ticketmaster.  I find that this way to sell tickets -- two separate ticket sellers  - is confusing since it makes it harder to know what tickets are available unless you know about the existence of all of the ticket sellers.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gm5k on September 22, 2017, 11:18:58 PM
I've kept track of James and how he sings on certain tours and concerts for a while now, and I have to say he sounded amazing in Seoul.  His energy seemed high, too.  I think James really likes the South Korean crowds  :biggrin:  They surely are very enthusiastic about music.

I'm so happy and excited for him that he is sounding so good.  Makes me so stoked for the show in Austin on December 1st.  Going there with 7 friends, and I'm thinking it's going to be absolutely incredible. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: erwinrafael on September 27, 2017, 11:10:55 AM
Already shared this video I found on Youtube on how Mangini now plays Hell's Kitchen in the DT Manila thread but I would also like to share it here. I think the Genie is now slowly putting to rest the criticisms on his hi-hat and cymbals playing in the piece early in the tour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D48k0lG5ORQ

He would be awesome by the time they come to North America.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on September 27, 2017, 11:33:54 AM
Already shared this video I found on Youtube on how Mangini now plays Hell's Kitchen in the DT Manila thread but I would also like to share it here. I think the Genie is now slowly putting to rest the criticisms on his hi-hat and cymbals playing in the piece early in the tour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D48k0lG5ORQ

He would be awesome by the time they come to North America.

JP played the Wonder Woman theme at the start. I didn't expect that! I really love the way Hans Zimmer composed it, and it is/sounds very proggy because it's in 7/8  :tup
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 29, 2017, 02:52:44 PM
Just booked a hotel room in Peoria for the Nov. 4th show. Anyone else going to that show? I'm taking my 10 and 11 year old sons so I figured I'd make a day of it Saturday then actually sleep and come home Sunday. If it were just me and my brother I'd just drive the three hours home after the show but being I'll have the kiddos with me I won't risk anything. Plus, they like getting breakfast at hotels...they think it's fun for some reason.  :lol

If anyone's going and wants to meet up and say 'hey' let me know....    :tup
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: earlilano on October 04, 2017, 04:48:57 PM
Anyone get the their soundrink tickets yet?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on October 05, 2017, 10:49:52 AM
Just booked a hotel room in Peoria for the Nov. 4th show. Anyone else going to that show? I'm taking my 10 and 11 year old sons so I figured I'd make a day of it Saturday then actually sleep and come home Sunday. If it were just me and my brother I'd just drive the three hours home after the show but being I'll have the kiddos with me I won't risk anything. Plus, they like getting breakfast at hotels...they think it's fun for some reason.  :lol



I shit you not, whenever I travel and have to choose a hotel, I call multiple in the area and make my decision based on which has the best breakfast. The people at the desk must think I'm crazy "Hi, random question, do you have waffle makers in your breakfast area and does your milk come in cartons or in a dispenser?". If I'm spending money to spend the night somewhere, it means the night before is going to be a doozy. I need my breakfast the following day to be on point.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 05, 2017, 11:00:27 AM
 :lol I spend way too much time at Holiday Inn Express hotels which includes free breakfast, but I pretty much can't take it anymore.  I can tell you most don't have waffle makers, but they almost always have pancake makers and the milk has always been in cartons from my experience.  They also have delicious cinnamon buns.  However, I don't think I'd recommend their breakfast to anyone other than the fact if they are comparing similar hotels, it's at least free.  Now if you pay for a breakfast at a Holiday Inn (not express) then you are in for a solid meal.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on October 05, 2017, 11:22:13 AM
I chose my last hotel based on proximity to a good, non-hotel breakfast. In fact, I chose the town I stayed in for that reason, and the hotel simply followed based on quality/price ratio. The only time I actually eat breakfast is when I'm on the road, so I like to make a point to do it well.

When I have taken breakfast at a hotel, American chains, at least, the free breakfasts are usually bad-decent, and the expensive breakfasts always have waffle makers and a guy making omelettes to order.

I also find that hotels tend to stop serving breakfast before I want to wake up, for the most part.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 05, 2017, 11:26:27 AM
Hotel food is always just so expensive and not as good as something down the street.  Like some hotels charge $15+ for some eggs, no thanks.  I'd take McDonalds breakfast over that.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: axeman90210 on October 06, 2017, 10:41:47 AM
All this breakfast talk reminds me of being in Portland overnight with some friends a few years ago. Late night involving many beers, and then we get up the next morning and we're all in various states of waking up/getting ready. One guy leaves and then shows back up with this big plate of food from the "free" breakfast buffet downstairs in the lobby. So I head down, grab a plate and load up and sit down at one of the tables down there only to have someone from the hotel come by and drop a bill on the table. Turns out it wasn't free at all :lol Best damn buffet eggs I've ever had though.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Chino on October 09, 2017, 06:09:49 AM
Hotel food is always just so expensive and not as good as something down the street.  Like some hotels charge $15+ for some eggs, no thanks.  I'd take McDonalds breakfast over that.

I would like to make something clear in regards to my hotel breakfast decisions... I will never pay a hotel for breakfast (order something and receive a bill). To get my business there has to be a breakfast buffet that's already incorporated into the cost of my room.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: earlilano on October 09, 2017, 11:31:13 AM
My favorite cheap place to stay with a decent breakfast buffet is Super 8 Motel and they have a waffle maker.  ;D
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 09, 2017, 12:52:33 PM
I actually ate my hotel breakfast this weekend.  This is the first time I think I've seen where the breads were individually wrapped with plastic.  Like they clearly didn't seem fresh because of that, and then actually eating a bagel confirmed that.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on October 12, 2017, 12:41:28 AM
Have any of the platinum M&G folks received a notification about a possible diamond package upgrade for the U.S. dates?  I'm wondering if the band is contemplating diamond packages for this upcoming leg.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: dream416 on October 12, 2017, 09:40:15 AM
Have any of the platinum M&G folks received a notification about a possible diamond package upgrade for the U.S. dates?  I'm wondering if the band is contemplating diamond packages for this upcoming leg.

I e-mailed Soundrink about this & they said they were not offering this sort of package.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 12, 2017, 01:23:09 PM
I'm waiting patiently for the email about my seats.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on October 12, 2017, 01:36:51 PM
Have any of the platinum M&G folks received a notification about a possible diamond package upgrade for the U.S. dates?  I'm wondering if the band is contemplating diamond packages for this upcoming leg.

I e-mailed Soundrink about this & they said they were not offering this sort of package.

Too bad!  Thanks for looking into it dream416.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: earlilano on October 12, 2017, 07:15:50 PM
Sound Rink just sent seat assignments for the show at the Wiltern so check your emails. Also, is anyone going to the Wiltern show who has two tickets with seats in the A row? If anyone does and want to swap my DDD row seats, send me a PM. The DDD seat is closer to the stage but this area is lower than the actual stage, so if your short you might have to look up the entire show. I'm a short asian guy so I wanted to see if anyone wanted to swap.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on October 13, 2017, 06:00:22 PM
Earlilano, if you have seats 113, 114, or 115 in Row DDD the view should be fairly unobstructed as its situated behind the aisle for rows AAA - CCC, so no one standing in front of you. 

FYI, I did have the Row A seats for this show, with all the info forms filled out but windows crashed before I pressed complete purchase.  A few minutes later I ended up with Row CCC.  Row A is a premium seat at the Wiltern, as I think I had it for the first Astonishing leg.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Joshgirouard on October 14, 2017, 09:34:57 AM
Any info yet on soundrink tickets ?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 14, 2017, 02:59:56 PM
Nope. I haven't gotten anything yet. I'm thinking next week as its closer to the show.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: earlilano on October 14, 2017, 05:12:04 PM
Earlilano, if you have seats 113, 114, or 115 in Row DDD the view should be fairly unobstructed as its situated behind the aisle for rows AAA - CCC, so no one standing in front of you. 

FYI, I did have the Row A seats for this show, with all the info forms filled out but windows crashed before I pressed complete purchase.  A few minutes later I ended up with Row CCC.  Row A is a premium seat at the Wiltern, as I think I had it for the first Astonishing leg.

I'm seat 119 and 120. I think I will just plan to stand the entire show. Hopefully the people in front of me aren't that tall.

@Joshgirouard Also Soundrink told me before that they will assign seats 2 weeks before the date of the show and based on my experience they sent it exactly 2 weeks before the show.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 14, 2017, 05:49:40 PM
Yeah ours is on the 29th. So I should get the email tomorrow.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 16, 2017, 02:14:36 PM
Fuck yeah just got my tickets in the mail. Front row.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Joshgirouard on October 16, 2017, 03:22:32 PM
Pretty awesome that they are sending them in the mail . Will call would have been rough . Still excited fur mine ! I have tickets for the Toronto show so should get them in the next week or 2
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 16, 2017, 03:27:37 PM
Yeah since our show is on a Sunday, no mail on Sundays, they came in today. 2 weeks exactly from our show. I knew I was gonna get front row, since its New Mexico. Not a big music following here other than rap and mainstream Metal.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 17, 2017, 09:06:28 AM
My brother had to cancel on me for the Peoria show so my wife is taking his spot. She went to see The Neal Morse Band play 'Similitude of a Dream' with me in January and loved it....so, it'll be me, her and my two oldest sons  :metal   
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on October 17, 2017, 07:15:01 PM
My brother had to cancel on me for the Peoria show so my wife is taking his spot. She went to see The Neal Morse Band play 'Similitude of a Dream' with me in January and loved it....so, it'll be me, her and my two oldest sons  :metal

Nice. It's great to share this with your family. The TACs all went to the BTFW show.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: earlilano on October 17, 2017, 07:28:14 PM
I just got my Sound RInk tickets in the mail for the show next week at The Wiltern. I'm so excited. It will be the perfect end for my 4 concerts in a span of 5 straight nights.  :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 19, 2017, 08:39:47 AM
My brother had to cancel on me for the Peoria show so my wife is taking his spot. She went to see The Neal Morse Band play 'Similitude of a Dream' with me in January and loved it....so, it'll be me, her and my two oldest sons  :metal

Nice. It's great to share this with your family. The TACs all went to the BTFW show.

I'm looking forward to it....and in a surprising twist when I brought it up to my wife that she should go since my brother had to cancel she was really excited about it as well. She had a blast at the Neal Morse concert and she's certainly had to listen to her fair share of DT over the past 15 years that she's known me  :lol 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on October 22, 2017, 12:17:58 AM
Any news on setlist changes?  I assume that it will be the same static set from the previous legs.  With everyone's schedule so busy, I doubt they had time to prepare and switch out some of the songs.  Too bad, because there are some key places that could be improved, such as nixing Dark Eternal Night as the opener.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 22, 2017, 03:09:36 PM
I might end up having to buy tickets to a texas date. Most likely won't be able to stay through the whole show.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 24, 2017, 12:59:35 PM
Hell yeah Just got the info for the Meet and Greet...hmm, what should I bring
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 25, 2017, 07:35:21 PM
Sorry for triple posting.


Does anyone know how long the sets last, and the intermission? Its an important matter.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: lonestar on October 25, 2017, 07:42:54 PM
Patiently waiting for the Oakland show to start. Let the North American leg begin folks...
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: lonestar on October 25, 2017, 07:52:59 PM
Just spoke to a dude who was at the meet and greet, guess JP said there was a "minor setlist change..."
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 25, 2017, 08:18:41 PM
What time does it start
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: lonestar on October 25, 2017, 10:18:37 PM
First set just ended, there are some nice surprises in store for y'all...
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: countoftuscany42 on October 25, 2017, 10:20:58 PM
Can you confirm the major surprise on setlist.fm?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on October 25, 2017, 10:21:45 PM
Can you confirm the major surprise on setlist.fm?
I PM'd him the same question. I'd be very excited if it was true
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 25, 2017, 10:33:16 PM
What time did it start? And how long is the intermission?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: JayOctavarium on October 25, 2017, 10:58:51 PM
Can you confirm the major surprise on setlist.fm?

RJ WE NEED YOU
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 25, 2017, 11:01:07 PM
Can you confirm the major surprise on setlist.fm?

RJ WE NEED YOU


 :corn :hat :hefdaddy
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 26, 2017, 12:32:43 AM
Now I really really hope its true.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: SystematicThought on October 26, 2017, 12:34:33 AM
Seriously! Although the original set makes me laugh because someone thought it was new
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: countoftuscany42 on October 26, 2017, 12:41:26 AM
The setlist has changed now in that one spot, would still appreciate confirmation of what was played  :tup
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: FOXAN03 on October 26, 2017, 01:03:29 AM
To live forever

Also looks like a couple new songs?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: FOXAN03 on October 26, 2017, 01:06:25 AM
Confirmation by someone would be awesome
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mladen on October 26, 2017, 01:09:17 AM
I just saw it on setlist.fm and my mind is blown. If this is true, we desperately need footage.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: lonestar on October 26, 2017, 01:10:49 AM
Don't Look Past Me was what was played. I personally had never heard the song before, but I just spun it on YT real quick and that was it. I feel kinda special that our crowd was the first to ever hear it live.


To Live Forever was a sweet touch. Great show, JLB was struggling a bit, but the band was lights out. JP's solo after Another Day was quite possibly one of the best I've seen from him, just  :omg: :omg: :omg:

Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mladen on October 26, 2017, 01:17:51 AM
Alright - footage, please!  :omg:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: lonestar on October 26, 2017, 01:21:30 AM
Here ya go...
(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22730408_1381223825309054_4843551097662844224_n.jpg?oh=b4c9073632a8dc2702d5a61e0926ff30&oe=5A78DE48)


I was too busy rocking out bro... (and trying to figure out what frikkin song it was lol)



You guys speculate and chatter your brains out, I gotta work hella early. Off to sleep with ringing ears, one of the best feelings out there...
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Mladen on October 26, 2017, 01:55:45 AM
Here ya go...
(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22730408_1381223825309054_4843551097662844224_n.jpg?oh=b4c9073632a8dc2702d5a61e0926ff30&oe=5A78DE48)
Perfect!

I didn't mean footage necessarily from you. Whoever has it will do.  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on October 26, 2017, 01:59:16 AM
WOW - really? Don't Look Past Me?  I think my head would have exploded if I didn't check this out before tomorrow night.  I've never been so happy to have been so wrong before! 

Damn, I'm stoked for The Wiltern tomorrow! Don't know if I'll be able to go to sleep tonight!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: nattmorker on October 26, 2017, 06:32:26 AM
Awsome! I'm not that of a fan of either of those songs, they're good but not my favorite. But anyway, it's awesome that the band includes some rarities and underplayed songs in their setlists.

The only downside for me it's that I really love "The gift of music".
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 26, 2017, 06:48:03 AM
Holy crap!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 26, 2017, 07:21:56 AM
Yup, JP confirmed it on social media last night apparently that there would be changes for the setlist.  That's really surprising though, To Live Forever, not so surprising but live debut of Don't Look Past Me?!  :omg: 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: ? on October 26, 2017, 07:24:23 AM
Holy crap!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 26, 2017, 09:35:29 AM
Now I'm really excited and pumped for Sunday. Never ever would I have guessed I'd get to see DLPM. Now that's especially special.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on October 26, 2017, 10:08:31 AM
TLF is great. Good addition. DLPM isn't my bag, though. While going back to old outtakes was a wonderful idea, I really wish they'd gone with The Way it Used to Be, instead. That would have been perfect. I suppose they were wanting to stick with the Moore era, though.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Scottjf8 on October 26, 2017, 12:10:50 PM
I've never heard of DLPM but TLF is awesome.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on October 26, 2017, 01:27:39 PM
TLF is great. Good addition. DLPM isn't my bag, though. While going back to old outtakes was a wonderful idea, I really wish they'd gone with The Way it Used to Be, instead. That would have been perfect. I suppose they were wanting to stick with the Moore era, though.

Don't Look Past Me was going to be on Images & Words until they wrote Surrounded and decided to replace it, so yeah it makes sense to stick with the anniversary theme. 

Seeing it live tonight, and it totally will be my bag!!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Robo4900 on October 26, 2017, 02:00:33 PM
To Live Forever? Oh, that's cool. Love to hear that live. Shame they probably won't come back to the UK again with this tour...

Don't Look Past Me? WHAT? HOLY CRAP. OH MY GOD. PUT IT IN MY EYES NOW! OH MY GOD. HOLY CRAP!!

AGH... Now I really want them to come back to the UK.
If not, maybe a live DVD or something? Man, I'd really love a live DVD of this set.

With Images And Words, To Live Forever, Don't Look Past me, and a Change Of Seasons, that's everything that was written for Images And Words!! :D
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: earlilano on October 26, 2017, 04:23:05 PM
To those who went to the Oakland show, how long was the concert from start to end? I'm so excited for tonight's show.  :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Scottjf8 on October 26, 2017, 05:37:12 PM
Since I've never seen an evening with, do the US crowds stand?

I'm in the 4th and my buddy hates standing at shows, and I'm a metal head so I don't like sitting.

Who will be happier?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: lonestar on October 26, 2017, 06:58:14 PM
To those who went to the Oakland show, how long was the concert from start to end? I'm so excited for tonight's show.  :metal

It was pretty much three hours to the second I swear. First set was a bit over an hour, then a 20 minute break, then an hour forty for I&W and the encore. I was out of the theater and on the train by 11:15.

Since I've never seen an evening with, do the US crowds stand?

I'm in the 4th and my buddy hates standing at shows, and I'm a metal head so I don't like sitting.

Who will be happier?

Depends on the venue...Oakland was a seated venue, but the first ten or so rows stood throughout. But when they play San Francisco's Warfeild and it's GA, then everyone is standing throughout.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 27, 2017, 07:05:44 AM
Since I've never seen an evening with, do the US crowds stand?

I'm in the 4th and my buddy hates standing at shows, and I'm a metal head so I don't like sitting.

Who will be happier?

Depends on the venue...Oakland was a seated venue, but the first ten or so rows stood throughout. But when they play San Francisco's Warfeild and it's GA, then everyone is standing throughout.

Yea, it's weird with standing for DT.  I've been wondering this myself. For the TA shows it was all sitting, even in the front row, but in my past experiences I had always stood for DT (like I do for other bands) but I am wondering if sitting is now a thing at DT shows.  For the NYC show I have first row on the balcony, if I stand then it kind of forces others to stand or yell at me to sit.  At the NJ show I am in the 7th row, I'd really want to stand but if the people in front of me arent then I am not sure I want to be the lone stander.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Grappler on October 27, 2017, 11:41:09 AM
Yea, it's weird with standing for DT.  I've been wondering this myself. For the TA shows it was all sitting, even in the front row, but in my past experiences I had always stood for DT (like I do for other bands) but I am wondering if sitting is now a thing at DT shows.  For the NYC show I have first row on the balcony, if I stand then it kind of forces others to stand or yell at me to sit.  At the NJ show I am in the 7th row, I'd really want to stand but if the people in front of me arent then I am not sure I want to be the lone stander.

I've only seen DT once, on the Metropolis 2000 tour.  We had seats in the theater's balcony - the floor was GA/standing.  Everyone in the balcony was seated, and it was really fucking weird.  I went to headbang when they play The Mirror, and I'm sitting in a chair trying to do it.  I didn't understand why people would sit at a metal show, and still don't. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 27, 2017, 12:05:53 PM
Yea, it's weird with standing for DT.  I've been wondering this myself. For the TA shows it was all sitting, even in the front row, but in my past experiences I had always stood for DT (like I do for other bands) but I am wondering if sitting is now a thing at DT shows.  For the NYC show I have first row on the balcony, if I stand then it kind of forces others to stand or yell at me to sit.  At the NJ show I am in the 7th row, I'd really want to stand but if the people in front of me arent then I am not sure I want to be the lone stander.

I've only seen DT once, on the Metropolis 2000 tour.  We had seats in the theater's balcony - the floor was GA/standing.  Everyone in the balcony was seated, and it was really fucking weird.  I went to headbang when they play The Mirror, and I'm sitting in a chair trying to do it.  I didn't understand why people would sit at a metal show, and still don't.

 :lol I was head banging and rocking in my seat so much when I was first row for an Astonishing show last year.  I really think that's the reason why JP shook my hand, and no one elses, afterwards.  Must have saw only one person who was really wanting to rock out. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 27, 2017, 12:11:46 PM
Yea, it's weird with standing for DT.  I've been wondering this myself. For the TA shows it was all sitting, even in the front row, but in my past experiences I had always stood for DT (like I do for other bands) but I am wondering if sitting is now a thing at DT shows.  For the NYC show I have first row on the balcony, if I stand then it kind of forces others to stand or yell at me to sit.  At the NJ show I am in the 7th row, I'd really want to stand but if the people in front of me arent then I am not sure I want to be the lone stander.

I've only seen DT once, on the Metropolis 2000 tour.  We had seats in the theater's balcony - the floor was GA/standing.  Everyone in the balcony was seated, and it was really fucking weird.  I went to headbang when they play The Mirror, and I'm sitting in a chair trying to do it.  I didn't understand why people would sit at a metal show, and still don't.

 :lol I was head banging and rocking in my seat so much when I was first row for an Astonishing show last year.  I really think that's the reason why JP shook my hand, and no one elses, afterwards.  Must have saw only one person who was really wanting to rock out.

Imagine if you broke the chair. Haha.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on October 27, 2017, 01:36:59 PM
At the Reno show I went to on the Astonishing tour where they had added in the "hits" encore, people down on the floor where I was started an actual pit during Pull Me Under, and the band was LOVING it.  I've never seen that happen at a DT show ever, but we were all cracking up, and I think it was all John and James could do to keep it together.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 29, 2017, 10:18:53 PM
Had to leave after the first set. But it was worth it alone for To Live Forever.

James joked about Mangini having is iPad saying "Are you watching the game." And at Jordan saying "Jordan was somewhere on the street...selling drugs."

Overall wish I could've stayed for the rest but life comes first. Had a blast either way. Going to try and catch the dallas date.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on October 30, 2017, 08:21:27 AM
Going to try and catch the dallas date.

Thinking about this and/or the Austin show.  I'm in a weird situation where I need to burn vacation before the end of the year and I also want to keep my flight status and will need to fly 2k more miles to do that, that weekend looks ripe for me, but I am not ready to pull the trigger yet.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 02, 2017, 01:11:32 PM
Going to try and catch the dallas date.

Thinking about this and/or the Austin show.  I'm in a weird situation where I need to burn vacation before the end of the year and I also want to keep my flight status and will need to fly 2k more miles to do that, that weekend looks ripe for me, but I am not ready to pull the trigger yet.
Cool, y'all come down. Ben can bring some Peyote and we'll have a grand ole time.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 02, 2017, 01:16:49 PM
Going to try and catch the dallas date.

Thinking about this and/or the Austin show.  I'm in a weird situation where I need to burn vacation before the end of the year and I also want to keep my flight status and will need to fly 2k more miles to do that, that weekend looks ripe for me, but I am not ready to pull the trigger yet.
Cool, y'all come down. Ben can bring some Peyote and we'll have a grand ole time.

Crossing bridges in the sky. Heh.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: geeeemo on November 02, 2017, 03:09:07 PM
At the Reno show I went to on the Astonishing tour where they had added in the "hits" encore, people down on the floor where I was started an actual pit during Pull Me Under, and the band was LOVING it.  I've never seen that happen at a DT show ever, but we were all cracking up, and I think it was all John and James could do to keep it together.

I was at that show standing right in front of JP on the edge of the pit. I was in Anaheim for the show 2 nights before that and no pit. Reno rocks! :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: JayOctavarium on November 02, 2017, 03:41:09 PM
At the Reno show I went to on the Astonishing tour where they had added in the "hits" encore, people down on the floor where I was started an actual pit during Pull Me Under, and the band was LOVING it.  I've never seen that happen at a DT show ever, but we were all cracking up, and I think it was all John and James could do to keep it together.


I moshed to Home during the Maiden tour. It was awesome.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 02, 2017, 03:46:56 PM
Going to try and catch the dallas date.

Thinking about this and/or the Austin show.  I'm in a weird situation where I need to burn vacation before the end of the year and I also want to keep my flight status and will need to fly 2k more miles to do that, that weekend looks ripe for me, but I am not ready to pull the trigger yet.
Cool, y'all come down. Ben can bring some Peyote and we'll have a grand ole time.

Crossing bridges in the sky. Heh.

 :lol Yea, I reached out to my buddy down in Dallas who EB gave me a ride to meet up with last year, he wants to go to the show too but is up in the air due to work, I'm debating about pulling the trigger on this without him confirming going anyway.  Might just fly in that morning and out the next day.  Would be cool to catch the last show of the tour, usually those end up being pretty fun cause the band is more loose.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: bosk1 on November 02, 2017, 04:21:37 PM
At the Reno show I went to on the Astonishing tour where they had added in the "hits" encore, people down on the floor where I was started an actual pit during Pull Me Under, and the band was LOVING it.  I've never seen that happen at a DT show ever, but we were all cracking up, and I think it was all John and James could do to keep it together.

I was at that show standing right in front of JP on the edge of the pit. I was in Anaheim for the show 2 nights before that and no pit. Reno rocks! :metal

Oh, no way!  Did you hang around afterward?  I was the guy shouting for Maddi to come out after the show ended.  And then that one dude climbed up on stage to try to grab one of JP's picks off the mic, and a roadie bum rushed him and shoved him off the stage.  :lol
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: geeeemo on November 03, 2017, 10:29:43 AM
At the Reno show I went to on the Astonishing tour where they had added in the "hits" encore, people down on the floor where I was started an actual pit during Pull Me Under, and the band was LOVING it.  I've never seen that happen at a DT show ever, but we were all cracking up, and I think it was all John and James could do to keep it together.

I was at that show standing right in front of JP on the edge of the pit. I was in Anaheim for the show 2 nights before that and no pit. Reno rocks! :metal

Oh, no way!  Did you hang around afterward?  I was the guy shouting for Maddi to come out after the show ended.  And then that one dude climbed up on stage to try to grab one of JP's picks off the mic, and a roadie bum rushed him and shoved him off the stage.  :lol

No, we left but that is funny! Reminds me of the time when my hubby and I went to Metallica when I was pregnant. We were about 13 rows back and my hubby was trying to get a pick for me. He was fairly loaded so was being too "assertive" and they booted him lol! Glad it was at the end!  Hope DT comes back to Reno next time - I was quite surprised they came here :).
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: shredder711 on November 03, 2017, 01:47:23 PM
Show in Wichita, KS last night was amazing! Thank you guys for posting setlist info. I've been a huge DT fan since 1992 but there was a song I had never heard. Thanks for the suggestion of setlist.fm. I even just now put in a setlist for the Wichita show. Then I looked at the LA show setlist and realized that I missed a few things.  I had never heard Don't Look Past Me. Also, we didn't catch what was the name of that song that Myung did for his solo. Lots of firsts for this show.  Because we were young and poor when I first became a fan we never got to see DT live until 2002 in Tulsa, OK. We've seen them just about every tour since, though, even twice last tour. I can't recall ever seeing them perform Hell's Kitchen and, of course, Don't Look Past Me and the bass solo. Those were all great but I was about in tears when they did A Change Of Seasons as the encore. One of my all-time favorite DT pieces. And they nailed it so well. I am still smiling thinking about it.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rickhawk80 on November 03, 2017, 05:47:30 PM
The Wichita show last night was wonderful.  James, in particular, seemed really inspired to nail the vocals on the I&W songs and he sounded fantastic.  The only disappointment was the crowd size -- not sure why they play cities like Wichita when they draw bigger crowds in other, larger cities within an easy drive distance.  Sure, they played Tulsa and Kansas City on The Astonishing tour, which is where I saw them last time, so I get it if they're trying to hit different cities rather than repeat, but both KC and Tulsa drew MUCH larger crowds than last night.  I was sitting in the 5th row and got to talking to several other groups of fans around me -- none of us were from the Wichita area and we all drove there from other areas just for DT.


Thanks for the suggestion of setlist.fm. I even just now put in a setlist for the Wichita show. Then I looked at the LA show setlist and realized that I missed a few things. 

I updated the Wichita setlist just now and completed it, shredder.   ;) :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Robo4900 on November 06, 2017, 10:22:32 AM
Someone's uploaded a really good video of Don't Look Past Me being played (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3WZa9kgMWs).

Oh man, this is so awesome... I'd kill to hear it live!! I really hope it gets on a DVD or something. :biggrin:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: TAC on November 06, 2017, 04:10:52 PM
Wow, that was great.

Mangini!! :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on November 06, 2017, 04:55:09 PM
Sounded good musically, but oof, those vocals. JLB sounded good on the softer stuff, but every time he had to belt something out, he fell into that yelp-y tone he does too much.  Hard to watch after a few minutes.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 06, 2017, 05:14:58 PM
Sounded good musically, but oof, those vocals. JLB sounded good on the softer stuff, but every time he had to belt something out, he fell into that yelp-y tone he does too much.  Hard to watch after a few minutes.

I'm convinced there's something in JLB's voice that just doesn't translate and record well with the phone video. If you listen to the youtube videos there are times like you describe where you're like 'eh...'....yet, the other night in Peoria JLB sounded great to me live.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rickhawk80 on November 06, 2017, 05:17:03 PM
He sounded stellar in Wichita, too.  Best I’ve heard him in years!   :tup
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on November 06, 2017, 05:23:08 PM
Hmmmm, this is getting to be a Geddy Lee the last couple tours situation, where most footage shows him struggling badly, but most fans are like, "But he sounded great at the show I went to!"  I think the euphoria of a concert always makes certain things sound better than they really do.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 06, 2017, 05:35:28 PM
Hmmmm, this is getting to be a Geddy Lee the last couple tours situation, where most footage shows him struggling badly, but most fans are like, "But he sounded great at the show I went to!"  I think the euphoria of a concert always makes certain things sound better than they really do.

whatever it is.....he sounded great at the show I went to!      :lol    Seriously though, JLB was great at Peoria and his stage presence/crowd interaction was fun as well. Certainly if you want to nit pic his performance maybe there were a couple spots here and there that one could point to and say 'SEE!!'....but, the dude sang his balls off at the show I saw.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: KevShmev on November 06, 2017, 06:34:03 PM
Hmmmm, this is getting to be a Geddy Lee the last couple tours situation, where most footage shows him struggling badly, but most fans are like, "But he sounded great at the show I went to!"  I think the euphoria of a concert always makes certain things sound better than they really do.

whatever it is.....he sounded great at the show I went to!      :lol    Seriously though, JLB was great at Peoria and his stage presence/crowd interaction was fun as well. Certainly if you want to nit pic his performance maybe there were a couple spots here and there that one could point to and say 'SEE!!'....but, the dude sang his balls off at the show I saw.

 :tup :tup
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: rickhawk80 on November 06, 2017, 06:41:07 PM
Hmmmm, this is getting to be a Geddy Lee the last couple tours situation, where most footage shows him struggling badly, but most fans are like, "But he sounded great at the show I went to!"  I think the euphoria of a concert always makes certain things sound better than they really do.
I disagree.  I love Geddy Lee and can admit how he struggles later in a tour with his voice.  JLB had none of those issues in Wichita.  Seriously the best he has sounded on any of the last 3 tours I’ve seen him.  Of course, it is early in the tour....
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 12, 2017, 09:01:16 AM
Booked a flight and hotel for Dallas, I'll hold off buying a ticket for now, but down for a meet up.  The venue and hotel seem really close to the airport which makes my in/out of Dallas seem simple for the weekend.  :metal :metal
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: MirrorMask on November 14, 2017, 03:29:31 AM
Saw a Hellfest poster with DT billed the same day as Iron Maiden, Helloween and Manowar!

............EDIT: which turned out to be false. Apologies. Didn't account for the possiblity of fake bills, shame on me  :facepalm: ;D
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 14, 2017, 10:56:02 AM
Anyone going to the NYC or NJ shows?  Anyone want to meet up?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: gzarruk on November 14, 2017, 11:01:43 AM
Saw a Hellfest poster with DT billed the same day as Iron Maiden, Helloween and Manowar!

............EDIT: which turned out to be false. Apologies. Didn't account for the possiblity of fake bills, shame on me  :facepalm: ;D

Yeah, 2018 will be a no tour year for DT, so that was definitely fake :biggrin:
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 17, 2017, 04:11:36 PM
Really awesome show in NYC last night.  The sound was really good in the venue, just a great concert all around.  Must say, my friend and I really pissed off everyone in our section since we stood the entire time.  Got quite a bit of people yelling at us to sit after the first song which actually got other people to support us yelling to let us stand  :lol  I told my friend I would sit because it's a long show and they do softer songs too... but my friend didn't want to.  I think it's psychological now as when we saw Iron Maiden many years ago people yelled at us to sit and he did, but I didn't which is something we always talk about and how he regretted sitting and not enjoying the show as much.  So we stood for almost the entire 3 hours forcing the people behind us to stand too.  Oh well.  Sorry not sorry.  I had a great time. 

Wait For Sleep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToDEuLBo9n4)
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on November 17, 2017, 04:26:27 PM
I only sat last Sunday for the intermission!
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 17, 2017, 04:33:16 PM
The entire floor stood.  I was in the first row on the balcony and most people were not standing in the balcony.  Granted, we made some stand and there were more tanding in the back of the balcony.  It's definitely a NYC thing were people like to sit during metal concerts.  Got to say, security was great though.  Got realy mad at us (and others) for leaving our drinks on the edge of the balcony, but otherwise didn't care about standing (or the fact people yelled at us for standing) and for camera use (such a better experience than the TA shows with the ushers ruining the experience).  Even though JLB made his comment about not using your camera too much during the concert, which I find annoying when a band brings that up at a live show, there was no issues with anything relating to the experiences from last years tour.  Also about the phone thing, looks like Tool/A Perfect Circle is getting torched on social media for their strict no phones policy similar to DT's last year.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: Architeuthis on November 18, 2017, 10:33:10 AM
I'll have to agree about the no phones policy. It's ok to take a quick picture every now and then, but holding a screen up often through the show is rude to the person behind you.
As far as standing up, it's ok if everyone else is standing up because they are fired up about the show. If you're the only one standing up and blocking others view, it's not ok.  I try to be mindful of the people behind me, I want them to enjoy the show too. Especially in balcony sections that's common etiquette. 
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: utopiarun on November 19, 2017, 09:34:19 AM
Went to the show at Asbury Park last night. Was in row H. DT of course was great. Me, not so much. Everyone was standing the entire show and I'm no kid and my legs and back were killing me and made the experience less than it should have been. If you want to stand for the "big" songs, OK but for a 56 year old man with flat feet to stand for 3 hours was brutal. Not sure why you have to stand. Not like people were dancing. Not like you can't see the same things sitting down. If you're the only ones standing and everyone behind you is asking you to sit and you still stand, pardon me, that is being an ass less than accommodating. Sorry.  OK, old man rant over.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 20, 2017, 08:31:12 AM
Booked a flight and hotel for Dallas, I'll hold off buying a ticket for now, but down for a meet up.  The venue and hotel seem really close to the airport which makes my in/out of Dallas seem simple for the weekend.  :metal :metal
Wherebouts is your hotel?
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: cramx3 on November 20, 2017, 10:37:53 AM
Booked a flight and hotel for Dallas, I'll hold off buying a ticket for now, but down for a meet up.  The venue and hotel seem really close to the airport which makes my in/out of Dallas seem simple for the weekend.  :metal :metal
Wherebouts is your hotel?

Holiday inn express next to the Irving Convention center, looks like i can walk to the venue from there, but google maps also shows the area completely unbuilt and under construction which must not be true if the venue really is there  :lol

Went to the show at Asbury Park last night. Was in row H. DT of course was great. Me, not so much. Everyone was standing the entire show and I'm no kid and my legs and back were killing me and made the experience less than it should have been. If you want to stand for the "big" songs, OK but for a 56 year old man with flat feet to stand for 3 hours was brutal. Not sure why you have to stand. Not like people were dancing. Not like you can't see the same things sitting down. If you're the only ones standing and everyone behind you is asking you to sit and you still stand, pardon me, that is being an ass less than accommodating. Sorry.  OK, old man rant over.

I was in row G.  Show was great, but honestly, other than TA shows, not sure why one would expect to sit that close on the floor at a metal concert.  I got to say, after three concerts, my legs were dead during that concert and I would have loved to sit, but that's not really an expectation when going to a concert.
Title: Re: New DT Tour dates
Post by: El Barto on November 20, 2017, 11:57:55 AM