Your biggest complaint about the tour

[TAC]

That's a great point Rumbo. Perhaps they were trying to make it more mysterious or something, but YT is like running a free commercial. They may have been a bit shortsighted.

[KevShmev]

On a side note, I wonder whether the "no phone" enforcement, and the resulting lack of YT videos from the show, actually hurt attendance. I could see people who would have been on the fence for the first leg, after watching some online videos, saying "I should watch that live".

You might be on to something there.  While I find people recording too much at concerts annoying, those videos instantly going up on YT is free and easy promotion for the band.  I mean, what music fan doesn't check out stuff on YT?

[Mosh]

I dunno, I haven't had trouble finding footage from the tour on youtube. I remember looking at stuff before seeing them and this was early into the first US leg, there has to be more stuff now.

[rumborak]

Compared to previous tours it's only a tiny fraction. What makes matters worse, the only full show (Hannover, Germany) has a really tired James who is flat almost the entire time. Were there more recording, I'm sure a better show would rise to the top of YT. The Hannover show has 100k views, which means 100,000 people have the impression that that's James's vocal performance these days.

[MasterLomaxus]

Security was very strict about no pictures last night in St. Louis.  I think some guy got kicked out for it, or at least it looked that way.  In fairness, it was posted everywhere that no pictures or video would be allowed, though.  I'm still not really a fan of that rule.

[Implode]

Does taking cellphone pictures/videos hurt the band or those in the audience? And does the strictly enforcing a rule against them make the experience any better?

I don't think I ever noticed anything different when I saw them.

[Logain Ablar]

Just posted on the DT youtube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE8pFURwYrA

Looks like they are adding some stuff to the setlist..

[bosk1]

THAT is cool news.

[axeman90210]

Except for those of us who already had shows this tour

[Ben_Jamin]

Now I think I'm for sure going to Tuscon.

[hefdaddy42]

Just posted on the DT youtube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE8pFURwYrA

Looks like they are adding some stuff to the setlist..

Yep, just saw that! 

Pretty cool, but since this will be my first TA show, I hope the extras are exactly that: EXTRAS, added to the show, not substitutions.

But either way, we'll see, and I'll enjoy it either way.

[cramx3]

Yea, I wouldn't expect any substitutions, that just doesn't make sense.  It'll likely be the encore we all wish they did the entire tour.

[mikeyd23]

Yea, I wouldn't expect any substitutions, that just doesn't make sense.  It'll likely be the encore we all wish they did the entire tour.

Exactly. This probably should have been the approach to this entire second US leg, I'm sure it would have helped ticket sales along the way.

[cramx3]

Yea, I wouldn't expect any substitutions, that just doesn't make sense.  It'll likely be the encore we all wish they did the entire tour.

Exactly. This probably should have been the approach to this entire second US leg, I'm sure it would have helped ticket sales along the way.

The proof is in the pudding, our own DTF members are now saying they want to go 

[mikeyd23]

The proof is in the pudding, our own DTF members are now saying they want to go 

Seriously, as soon as I saw that, I checked their tour dates on their website. I thought they had already shifted out west, but I couldn't remember if they had any eastern dates left.

[Logain Ablar]

I think it's a smart move by the band. I don't live in the US, so I won't get a chance to see these shows, but I remember the end of the London show feeling a little flat.

There was no encore (not even Astonishing as the faux encore on that first night), which I knew was going to happen, but on the way out I was thinking how cool it would have been to see them come back out and launch into something like A Change Of Seasons. I would have totally loved that!

[KevShmev]

Security was very strict about no pictures last night in St. Louis.  I think some guy got kicked out for it, or at least it looked that way.  In fairness, it was posted everywhere that no pictures or video would be allowed, though.  I'm still not really a fan of that rule.

Some lady was kicked out right as the last song was starting last night, but she appeared pretty drunk, so no clue if it was cell phone-related or not.

But hey, the rule was made very clear by the ushers and everyone as we entered last night, so if you got kicked out, it's your own fault.

[cramx3]

Security was very strict about no pictures last night in St. Louis.  I think some guy got kicked out for it, or at least it looked that way.  In fairness, it was posted everywhere that no pictures or video would be allowed, though.  I'm still not really a fan of that rule.

Some lady was kicked out right as the last song was starting last night, but she appeared pretty drunk, so no clue if it was cell phone-related or not.

But hey, the rule was made very clear by the ushers and everyone as we entered last night, so if you got kicked out, it's your own fault.

I think some people, including myself at RCMH, have the mentality of, "it's the last song so if I get kicked out, oh well" That's when I went down the aisle towards the stage but I was just escorted back to my seat. 

[El Barto]

Security was very strict about no pictures last night in St. Louis.  I think some guy got kicked out for it, or at least it looked that way.  In fairness, it was posted everywhere that no pictures or video would be allowed, though.  I'm still not really a fan of that rule.

Some lady was kicked out right as the last song was starting last night, but she appeared pretty drunk, so no clue if it was cell phone-related or not.

But hey, the rule was made very clear by the ushers and everyone as we entered last night, so if you got kicked out, it's your own fault.

I think some people, including myself at RCMH, have the mentality of, "it's the last song so if I get kicked out, oh well" That's when I went down the aisle towards the stage but I was just escorted back to my seat. 

Yeah, my concert buddies got kicked out during the final bows at the Tool show the other night. "Show's over, dickhead!"  Worked out great. Security dude marched us out the side door and we were out of the building in two minutes flat. Made a big difference in beating traffic. Honestly, might try that trick again sometime.

[Prog Snob]

Security was very strict about no pictures last night in St. Louis.  I think some guy got kicked out for it, or at least it looked that way.  In fairness, it was posted everywhere that no pictures or video would be allowed, though.  I'm still not really a fan of that rule.

Some lady was kicked out right as the last song was starting last night, but she appeared pretty drunk, so no clue if it was cell phone-related or not.

But hey, the rule was made very clear by the ushers and everyone as we entered last night, so if you got kicked out, it's your own fault.

I think some people, including myself at RCMH, have the mentality of, "it's the last song so if I get kicked out, oh well" That's when I went down the aisle towards the stage but I was just escorted back to my seat. 

And I reiterate, that poor security guard.

[bosk1]

I think it's a smart move by the band. I don't live in the US, so I won't get a chance to see these shows, but I remember the end of the London show feeling a little flat.

There was no encore (not even Astonishing as the faux encore on that first night), which I knew was going to happen, but on the way out I was thinking how cool it would have been to see them come back out and launch into something like A Change Of Seasons. I would have totally loved that!

Agreed, but I think it would have been smarter to do it earlier.  But then the problem is that, at whatever stage they would have done it, anyone who saw a show prior to that would complain that they got ripped off.

Security was very strict about no pictures last night in St. Louis.  I think some guy got kicked out for it, or at least it looked that way.  In fairness, it was posted everywhere that no pictures or video would be allowed, though.  I'm still not really a fan of that rule.

Some lady was kicked out right as the last song was starting last night, but she appeared pretty drunk, so no clue if it was cell phone-related or not.

But hey, the rule was made very clear by the ushers and everyone as we entered last night, so if you got kicked out, it's your own fault.

I think some people, including myself at RCMH, have the mentality of, "it's the last song so if I get kicked out, oh well" That's when I went down the aisle towards the stage but I was just escorted back to my seat. 

Yeah, my concert buddies got kicked out during the final bows at the Tool show the other night. "Show's over, dickhead!"  Worked out great. Security dude marched us out the side door and we were out of the building in two minutes flat. Made a big difference in beating traffic. Honestly, might try that trick again sometime.

[Logain Ablar]

I think it's a smart move by the band. I don't live in the US, so I won't get a chance to see these shows, but I remember the end of the London show feeling a little flat.

There was no encore (not even Astonishing as the faux encore on that first night), which I knew was going to happen, but on the way out I was thinking how cool it would have been to see them come back out and launch into something like A Change Of Seasons. I would have totally loved that!

Agreed, but I think it would have been smarter to do it earlier.  But then the problem is that, at whatever stage they would have done it, anyone who saw a show prior to that would complain that they got ripped off.

Totally. If you guys get ACOS I won't be happy!  In fairness to the band though, they are in a difficult spot. They must have hoped that TA by itself would have been enough of a draw to get people coming out. Now they're throwing in a few crowd pleasers to generate interest, and maximise their investment into the tour, but as you say, maybe the start of the second leg would have been a better time to announce and include the older stuff.

[Prog Snob]

I hope they play ACOS. It'll be a nice bootleg to get.

[hefdaddy42]

I hope they play ACOS. It'll be a nice bootleg to get.

If they play that at my show, I will shit twice and die, right there in my seat.

[Chino]

I hope they play ACOS. It'll be a nice bootleg to get.

If they play that at my show, I will shit twice and die, right there in my seat.

Then shit again, you know, loose bowels and stuff.

[Prog Snob]

I hope they play ACOS. It'll be a nice bootleg to get.

If they play that at my show, I will shit twice and die, right there in my seat.

[rumborak]

If they play that at my show, I will shit twice and die, right there in my seat.

And I reiterate, that poor security guard.

[hefdaddy42]

Indeed.

[oh8wrx]

Just posted on the DT youtube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE8pFURwYrA

Looks like they are adding some stuff to the setlist..

Yep, just saw that! 

Pretty cool, but since this will be my first TA show, I hope the extras are exactly that: EXTRAS, added to the show, not substitutions.

But either way, we'll see, and I'll enjoy it either way.

I saw that as well and got excited. There are 2 shows in LA coming up and I might have to get tickets just to hear some old songs. I loved TA show when I went back in May and even though I knew it was going to be exclusively TA, I was craving some songs from the other albums...

[rumborak]

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if those additional songs are rehearsed for DVD material.

[cramx3]

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if those additional songs are rehearsed for DVD material.

Maybe so, but I'm not sure why anyone would buy such a DVD for those extra songs that are on other DVDs.  They really don't add much IMO unless they had some new visuals to go along with them or they did those songs slightly different.  I don't believe we have a video of As I Am with MM yet though.

[Adami]

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if those additional songs are rehearsed for DVD material.

Oh thank Xenu. I've been hoping they'd finally do The Spirit Carries On on a DVD.

[KevShmev]

Figures that they would start this at the first show after the St. Louis one. Bastards.

[OldRodKS]

Saw the show last night in KC.

As I Am, The Spirit Carries On, and Pull Me Under were the three oldies they played.

And honestly, it was the best part of the show.  The crowd was totally stoked when they came out for the final encore and played those 3.  It was awesome.

I felt bad for the band, actually.  It was a pretty small venue (~3500 I think) and it was only about half full.  And they were super strict about cell phones, not even letting people use them before the show, or during intermission.

[Donmac1989]

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if those additional songs are rehearsed for DVD material.

Oh thank Xenu. I've been hoping they'd finally do The Spirit Carries On on a DVD.

Havent they already on a few of their live albums and not to mention the drummer audition dvd packaged with ADToE?