The Official "John Petrucci is a beast with his solos on The Astonishing" thread

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hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Prog Snob

 :metal

This album shows me why he's my favorite guitar player. I'm not saying he's the greatest guitar player ever, but he's my favorite, and that's it. 

Progmetty


lonestar


CDrice

I think you could have dropped the ''with his solos on The Astonishing'' from the title, but that's just me.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: Prog Snob on February 05, 2016, 12:03:12 PM
:metal

This album shows me why he's my favorite guitar player. I'm not saying he's the greatest guitar player ever, but he's my favorite, and that's it.
I get that completely.

Quote from: CDrice on February 05, 2016, 12:12:58 PM
I think you could have dropped the ''with his solos on The Astonishing'' from the title, but that's just me.
Just being timely.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.


Prog Snob


CDrice


Zydar

He not only brings the goods guitar wise on this album, kudos to him for succeeding with this massive undertaking with the concept, lyrics, production, and everything.

hefdaddy42

There was an interview on Ultimate Guitar with him the other day, where he detailed that one thing he did differently on this album was go back and do some fills after James had recorded the vocal, so that the fills could mirror or enhance the vocal.  He said he has never really done that before, but it felt right on this project.

I can think of a couple of places where that happens on this album, and they are very effective.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Prog Snob

Without a doubt that would do wonders for the vocal melody. Now I have to listen closer to see where he did that, and how often. It's impossible to pick everything up, even after three or four listens.

wolven74

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 05, 2016, 12:57:09 PM
There was an interview on Ultimate Guitar with him the other day, where he detailed that one thing he did differently on this album was go back and do some fills after James had recorded the vocal, so that the fills could mirror or enhance the vocal.  He said he has never really done that before, but it felt right on this project.

I can think of a couple of places where that happens on this album, and they are very effective.

Fills? Are you talking about JP or Mangini here? Never heard of guitar fills. :lol

Shadow Ninja 2.0


Logain Ablar

I'm guessing the section starting at 2:02 in Chosen is one of those 'fill' spots. There's a nice lead line going on behind the vocals.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: wolven74 on February 05, 2016, 01:30:18 PM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 05, 2016, 12:57:09 PM
There was an interview on Ultimate Guitar with him the other day, where he detailed that one thing he did differently on this album was go back and do some fills after James had recorded the vocal, so that the fills could mirror or enhance the vocal.  He said he has never really done that before, but it felt right on this project.

I can think of a couple of places where that happens on this album, and they are very effective.

Fills? Are you talking about JP or Mangini here? Never heard of guitar fills. :lol
Lead-ish type playing during a part of the song that is not a dedicated guitar solo section.  It's not a lead or a solo, so call it whatever you want.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

smegolas

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 05, 2016, 12:57:09 PM
There was an interview on Ultimate Guitar with him the other day, where he detailed that one thing he did differently on this album was go back and do some fills after James had recorded the vocal, so that the fills could mirror or enhance the vocal.  He said he has never really done that before, but it felt right on this project.

I can think of a couple of places where that happens on this album, and they are very effective.

there is definitely some spots where the vocals suddenly sound huge, sometimes backup harmonies or sometimes guitar fills, it all sounds awesome.

Architeuthis

Some of his most smooth intricate playing ever, not to mention the melody lines. He makes the guitar sing to new levels!!!  :o

gmillerdrake

Quote from: Prog Snob on February 05, 2016, 12:03:12 PM
:metal

This album shows me why he's my favorite guitar player. I'm not saying he's the greatest guitar player ever, but he's my favorite, and that's it.

Quote from: Architeuthis on February 05, 2016, 02:29:12 PM
Some of his most smooth intricate playing ever, not to mention the melody lines. He makes the guitar sing to new levels!!!  :o

Quote from: Zydar on February 05, 2016, 12:37:32 PM
He not only brings the goods guitar wise on this album, kudos to him for succeeding with this massive undertaking with the concept, lyrics, production, and everything.

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 05, 2016, 11:32:24 AM
Yeah.

Quote from: lonestar on February 05, 2016, 12:11:27 PM
*appreciates*

:iagree:

KevShmev

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 05, 2016, 12:57:09 PM
There was an interview on Ultimate Guitar with him the other day, where he detailed that one thing he did differently on this album was go back and do some fills after James had recorded the vocal, so that the fills could mirror or enhance the vocal.  He said he has never really done that before, but it felt right on this project.

I can think of a couple of places where that happens on this album, and they are very effective.

The middle of Act of Faythe!

Every time I hear that section, I think how cool those little fills JP plays are and how he doesn't often do stuff like that.  Very cool, indeed. :tup :tup

pcs90

Some of those "fills" would be in Act of Faythe, Chosen, and The Path That Divides...probably plenty of others too.

I think currently the solo in A Better Life is my favorite on the album.

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

erwinrafael

I love JP's solos in this album. Best for me would be Our New World. It's like a song in itself.

vtgrad

Quote from: gmillerdrake on February 05, 2016, 02:40:06 PM
Quote from: Prog Snob on February 05, 2016, 12:03:12 PM
:metal

This album shows me why he's my favorite guitar player. I'm not saying he's the greatest guitar player ever, but he's my favorite, and that's it.

Quote from: Architeuthis on February 05, 2016, 02:29:12 PM
Some of his most smooth intricate playing ever, not to mention the melody lines. He makes the guitar sing to new levels!!!  :o

Quote from: Zydar on February 05, 2016, 12:37:32 PM
He not only brings the goods guitar wise on this album, kudos to him for succeeding with this massive undertaking with the concept, lyrics, production, and everything.

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 05, 2016, 11:32:24 AM
Yeah.

Quote from: lonestar on February 05, 2016, 12:11:27 PM
*appreciates*

:iagree:

Me too.  Tasty, tasty solos and fills that not only are fun to listen to, but are fun to play.  He's very expressive on this album.

Mebert78

Petrucci is such a beast that even the word "beast" doesn't sufficiently describe his beastliness.  ;D
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DarkLord_Lalinc

He sounds restrained without compromising the technical prowess we know and love.

He did such a hell of a job.

cramx3

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 08, 2016, 08:16:54 AM
He sounds restrained without compromising the technical prowess we know and love.

He did such a hell of a job.

This.

My friend told me he didn't spot any crazy JP on this album that he loves.  It's there, just not the JP we are used to with the "metal" side of the soloing.  His guitar playing is fantastic though, the soft solos are just beautiful and really show off how great he really is.  Every song doesn't need the full out technical prowess.  He is definitely restrained, but for the better within the context of these songs.

pcs90

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 08, 2016, 08:16:54 AM
He sounds restrained without compromising the technical prowess we know and love.

He did such a hell of a job.
Well said!

Prog Snob

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 08, 2016, 08:16:54 AM
He sounds restrained without compromising the technical prowess we know and love.

He did such a hell of a job.

I definitely get that feeling when I listen to his playing.

SuperTaco

JP sinks perfectly into the sonic landscape of The Astonishing. To me, it sounds like his guitar playing is tighter and cleaner on this album compared to the previous four. Once again his guitar tone has evolved while still being unmistakably him.

The album has restored my faith in the diversity of JP's style, especially on a song like "A New Beginning".