*Official* The Astonishing discussion thread

[Kotowboy]

Whenever I listen to " When your time has come " I picture James singing it on stage with a big shaker

[red barchetta]

Pretty late to the party on saying that, but just saw "red barchetta"'s review of CD1 and it reminded me how much it surprises me when people think Disney before SDOIT (specifically Goodnight Kiss) when they listen to Act of Faythe. I mean yeah, there is some resemblance to Disney there, but am I the only one who really feels like that's basically Goodnight Kiss 2.0 (and love it for that)?

The Answer and Chosen give off a much stronger Disney/Aladdin vibe to me, but then again, I love Disney music so that's not an issue for me personally (also Lord Nafaryus is basically James LaBrie doing Matthew Bellamy doing a Disney villain impersonation, aka best song on the album).

It's funny you're saying that.  Today I was thinking that it reminded me a song Dennis De Young (former Styx frontman) wrote many years ago.  A ballad which at the time had been written for a Disney movie or something like that.  And to be honest I realised that I could not believe that DT had now follow that way.  I simply could not believe it!  But in the context of a concept album I guess it has its place.  I don't necessarily like it and hope that's is not what I have to look for for the next decade to come.

[erwinrafael]

What Disney song sounds like Act of Faythe? Specifics please.

[Adami]

What Disney song sounds like Act of Faythe? Specifics please.

I don't think anyone said it sounds like a specific Disney song, just that it sounds like it could be a Disney song.

[BlobVanDam]

Personally, I'm ok with them cutting out the spoken intro. It was pretty cool as an intro to the live show, but I think it may have been a little distracting, and a step too far on the album.

Just leave the music to tell the story.

The spoken intro gave a little bit more exposition, but it was a bit of a cheesy start to the album. But the lyrics make up what is lost, so I guess I prefer it without the intro.

[ariich]

Pretty late to the party on saying that, but just saw "red barchetta"'s review of CD1 and it reminded me how much it surprises me when people think Disney before SDOIT (specifically Goodnight Kiss) when they listen to Act of Faythe. I mean yeah, there is some resemblance to Disney there, but am I the only one who really feels like that's basically Goodnight Kiss 2.0 (and love it for that)?

The Answer and Chosen give off a much stronger Disney/Aladdin vibe to me, but then again, I love Disney music so that's not an issue for me personally (also Lord Nafaryus is basically James LaBrie doing Matthew Bellamy doing a Disney villain impersonation, aka best song on the album).

Well, parts of SDOIT sound like Disney (especially the overture) so I guess both comparisons can be valid at the same time.

[BlobVanDam]

Pretty late to the party on saying that, but just saw "red barchetta"'s review of CD1 and it reminded me how much it surprises me when people think Disney before SDOIT (specifically Goodnight Kiss) when they listen to Act of Faythe. I mean yeah, there is some resemblance to Disney there, but am I the only one who really feels like that's basically Goodnight Kiss 2.0 (and love it for that)?

The Answer and Chosen give off a much stronger Disney/Aladdin vibe to me, but then again, I love Disney music so that's not an issue for me personally (also Lord Nafaryus is basically James LaBrie doing Matthew Bellamy doing a Disney villain impersonation, aka best song on the album).

Well, parts of SDOIT sound like Disney (especially the overture) so I guess both comparisons can be valid at the same time.

The SDOIT Overture is very Disney in places, between the orchestral sounds and the happy major key vibe. But SDOIT is my favourite DT song, and I love every minute of it, so that's not a bad thing. Same goes with TA.

I don't get a strong Disney feel from Act of Faythe though. It's always reminded me more of the cleaner parts of Octavarium.

[ariich]

Never said it was a bad thing.

[BlobVanDam]

I know, but some people have used/taken the Disney comparison as a criticism, so I just wanted to make it clear I didn't mean it as such.

[King Postwhore]

It's not Disney Metal enough.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

Disney is awesome. Those who disagree have no heart.

[Kotowboy]

Didn't want to start a new thread...

- - - - - Six Degrees Disc Two VS The Astonishing - - - - -

• Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence Disc 2

or

• The Astonishing



Which is your favourite ?

[BlobVanDam]

lol


My favourite DT song (tied) from my favourite DT album, vs at very best 8th ranked album (probably more like 9th or 10th), from which I only listen to roughly the same amount of music as SDOIT disc 2 anyway. This will be a tough deliberation.

[RoeDent]

  The yellow....it hurts my eyes!

[BlobVanDam]

I had to highlight it to read it, since yellow on white is completely unreadable.

[Lucien]

This is why I use the BCSL theme. Easy on the eyes.

[BlobVanDam]

Dark themes make my eyes hurt and water within a minute. Painful and strainful on my eyes. And also it's not 1997 any more.

[Lucien]

Dark =/= 0 0 0  black contrasting with 255 255 255 white text

the bcsl theme is lotion for my eyes honestly

[BlobVanDam]

Didn't say it had to be, but anything with text lighter than the background is eye cancer to me, including the BCASL theme. It instantly does weird shit to my eyes.

Either way, yellow text is nasty because we have so many themes that you don't know whether people are using light or dark.

[King Postwhore]

Light to dark, dark to light Blob?

[tristl]

I was at the concert sunday in paris, my fiance who never really liked DT, never wanted to listen to it more then one minute , was going with me, and she really loved it.
I really think the astonishing as alive experience can gain many new fans for DT.
I think the idea to only go to opera/theatre venus was a brillant one and fits perfect for the concept.
that beeing said, I am looking forward to headbang in the frontrow again the next tour comming

[SebastianPratesi]

Didn't want to start a new thread...

- - - - - Six Degrees Disc Two VS The Astonishing - - - - -

• Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence Disc 2

or

• The Astonishing



Which is your favourite ?

The Astonishing obviously.





The longer the better.

[red barchetta]

What Disney song sounds like Act of Faythe? Specifics please.

I don't think anyone said it sounds like a specific Disney song, just that it sounds like it could be a Disney song.

Someone who understands what I'm saying.  Then no need to argue for nothing.

[red barchetta]

I was at the concert sunday in paris, my fiance who never really liked DT, never wanted to listen to it more then one minute , was going with me, and she really loved it.
I really think the astonishing as alive experience can gain many new fans for DT.
I think the idea to only go to opera/theatre venus was a brillant one and fits perfect for the concept.
that beeing said, I am looking forward to headbang in the frontrow again the next tour comming

Honestly I can understand why your fiancée loves TA and before never liked DT.  It's the same reason why I'm not crazy about TA.  And for the head banging, TA makes you shortened your head banging stuff as far as I'm concerned.

[Kotowboy]

White website backgrounds should be illegal.

Beneath The Surface background ftw.

[mike099]

I was at the concert sunday in paris, my fiance who never really liked DT, never wanted to listen to it more then one minute , was going with me, and she really loved it.
I really think the astonishing as alive experience can gain many new fans for DT.
I think the idea to only go to opera/theatre venus was a brillant one and fits perfect for the concept.
that beeing said, I am looking forward to headbang in the frontrow again the next tour comming

Glad that your fiancé loved the concert.  If my buddy does not go to Cincy with me, I may sell my tickets.  Not sure I want to make a 6 hour drive for this concert.  My wife says she will go, and to be honest she  may like the TA concert more than myself.  Of course if she goes, we will have to make a stop at Ikea near Cincy.  

[tristl]

I had problems myself with TA in the beginning, I really love it now, especially after the concert.
I am looking forward to a live dvd from TA
it is just another aspect of DT, but Iam very glad beeing fan of a band which still is able to bring new aspects to the table.
I am always looking forward to a new DT album, with metallica for example I just get frustrated.

[ZirconBlue]

Light to dark, dark to light Blob?

In the end, he only sees the change.

[tristl]

I was at the concert sunday in paris, my fiance who never really liked DT, never wanted to listen to it more then one minute , was going with me, and she really loved it.
I really think the astonishing as alive experience can gain many new fans for DT.
I think the idea to only go to opera/theatre venus was a brillant one and fits perfect for the concept.
that beeing said, I am looking forward to headbang in the frontrow again the next tour comming

Glad that your fiancé loved the concert.  If my buddy does not go to Cincy with me, I may sell my tickets.  Not sure I want to make a 6 hour drive for this concert.  My wife says she will go, and to be honest she  may like the TA concert more than myself.  Of course if she goes, we will have to make a stop at Ikea near Cincy.

Yes, thats the deal, you always have to bribe them ,
we spent three days in paris, it was quite expensive, but really nice

[escruting]

Anew beginning                                           good rock song with Kansas influence.  the guitar solo at the end is boring and too long.  Reminds me of the one at the end of Genesis's Abacab.

Good luck with that one. You're probably the first person I've seen say that. To each his own but to me, that's one of the best JP solos in years. It has a beautiful flow to it and (if anything) most people wanted it to actually last longer than it does.

Not only the guitar solo is boring but most importantly all the music composure is.  Usually JP will take us with his solos using different tempos, often taking us to a crescendo part.  If I feel something, I would tell.  Here it is like they just fill a space with a long solo.  And honestly, that is not a complicated one, certainly not to JP standards.  If you listen to Lines on the sand or The spirit carries on, you will notice all the variations on the volume, the picking, a certain blues approach at times.  And in fact, as I was saying, all the components of the solo could have been better. If there would have been some kind of explosions from the drum parts, you know, something happening a little bit more to make my eyes open and say wow.  That's my opinion.

I'm with you on this guys. For me the solo diminishes the best song in the album.

[BlobVanDam]

Dark website backgrounds should be illegal.

FTFY. Adjust your monitor properly.

I never put much thought into the A New Beginning solo. All I know is it's cool.

[Thematt202]

Didn't want to start a new thread...

- - - - - Six Degrees Disc Two VS The Astonishing - - - - -

• Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence Disc 2

or

• The Astonishing



Which is your favourite ?

Listened to both yesterday and TA blows SDOIT out of the water.  I find SDOIT starts strong with Overture and About to Crash, then gets boring/meanders along until About to Crash (reprise) and Grand Finale. 

[King Postwhore]

Is this the controversial thread?

I really like TA a lot but it does not beat out 6DOIT.

[Enigmachine]

I love both about equally. May even slightly prefer TA due to the increased length.

[Prog Snob]

Increased length does seem to make a difference.