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Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with moment of betrayal!)

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Kotowboy

Quote from: Moor on January 27, 2016, 06:02:42 AM
Quote from: Kotowboy on January 27, 2016, 05:54:15 AM
In my opinion - A Dramatic Turn Of Events is the best RoadRunner album so far.

I agree...but I think your statement will change soon.

Hence "so far".  :police:

RaasMah

Quote from: Progmetty on January 27, 2016, 06:02:26 AM
Quote from: RaasMah on January 27, 2016, 02:24:32 AM
Darius is the military Genral who will end up as the real bad guy and try to overthrow Lord Nafa after he welcomes Gabriel music.

spoilers ffs man.. ffs

Its a complete guess man ;D I havent heard the album.

Quarter_Cask

so is it basically about 2 brothers a woman and a tragedy?
;D

RoadTrain_of Thought

Quote from: RaasMah on January 27, 2016, 02:24:32 AM
Darius is the military Genral who will end up as the real bad guy and try to overthrow Lord Nafa after he welcomes Gabriel music.

EDIT:Nvm, realised it might be a spoiler

metrojam

Quote from: Podaar on January 27, 2016, 05:41:45 AM
Quote from: me7 on January 27, 2016, 03:52:57 AM
AdToE was good but by the numbers and DT12 was stale. Getting an album now that is so different is refreshing.

I keep hearing this type of statement on the forum. Over and over and over. Do people really think that if they keep saying it, it will come true?

But what part of that statement isn't true?.....I think you'll find that once you've heard the album you will realise that it is SPOT ON!! :)

IdoSC

Quote from: metrojam on January 27, 2016, 06:52:33 AM
Quote from: Podaar on January 27, 2016, 05:41:45 AM
Quote from: me7 on January 27, 2016, 03:52:57 AM
AdToE was good but by the numbers and DT12 was stale. Getting an album now that is so different is refreshing.

I keep hearing this type of statement on the forum. Over and over and over. Do people really think that if they keep saying it, it will come true?

But what part of that statement isn't true?.....I think you'll find that once you've heard the album you will realise that it is SPOT ON!! :)
I'm assuming he referred to the people who call ADTOE by the numbers or DT12 stale, not the latter part about TA.

pringkaarwanda

Quote from: Jinx on January 27, 2016, 05:27:06 AM
Quote from: pringkaarwanda on January 27, 2016, 01:52:04 AM
Umm, this about the second video in DT website
Can it be an official Video clip from one of the song in the album?

If yes, then I really love they make Video Clip for Dystopian Overture.
From all review, it said Dystopian Overture is perfect instrumental song to describe future / Dystopian atmosphere in the album
It will be very great to have a video clip of Dystopian Overture, showing all thing that relate to the album, using 3D animation or something, so it can make all of our fantasy come alive when we watch it  :D

That's the vibe I got when I heard this. Just seems like the camera will go from the NOMAC (in Descent) to a pan of the city then go on a flying tour all through the GNE/Ravenskill etc. Definitely seems like certain places have certain themes of music as well as the different characters
Yes !! I love it if DT make 3D animation video that shows us every place in The Astonishing story
It will raise my fantasy and more enjoy the story, because my brain will start to imagine place, vibe & atmospherefor that match with every situation in the story  ;D

Podaar

Quote from: IdoSC on January 27, 2016, 07:00:58 AM
Quote from: metrojam on January 27, 2016, 06:52:33 AM
Quote from: Podaar on January 27, 2016, 05:41:45 AM
Quote from: me7 on January 27, 2016, 03:52:57 AM
AdToE was good but by the numbers and DT12 was stale. Getting an album now that is so different is refreshing.

I keep hearing this type of statement on the forum. Over and over and over. Do people really think that if they keep saying it, it will come true?

But what part of that statement isn't true?.....I think you'll find that once you've heard the album you will realise that it is SPOT ON!! :)
I'm assuming he referred to the people who call ADTOE by the numbers or DT12 stale, not the latter part about TA.

You assumed correctly, sir.

bosk1

I'm with you, Podaar.  Opinions are opinions, but calling ADTOE "by the numbers" or DT12 "stale" are pretty empty criticisms that I can't take seriously.

BlobVanDam

I don't think there's anything at all empty about calling ADTOE by the numbers. I happen to strongly agree with that one. On DT12, I wouldn't call it stale, but I find it thoroughly uninteresting aside from a few sections.

bosk1

Yes, but you missed an all-so-important piece of the puzzle.  Since when do I ever take your opinions seriously?
































:biggrin:

BlobVanDam

Probably about twice as often as I take yours seriously. ;)

Podaar

I really love this place, bosk. I sincerely do.

I'm sure we all know it's just opinions and I understand that the last two albums might not be their thing, but DT12 stale? I'm sure folks can come up with better criticisms.  :)

bosk1


Progmetty

Quote from: Kotowboy on January 27, 2016, 05:54:15 AM
In my opinion - A Dramatic Turn Of Events is the best RoadRunner album so far.

I think it's the best thing since Six Degrees, I like all the albums in between in different variations but ADToE still blows my mind and has become my go-to when I feel like DT since it's release day.
Also the only album that I instantly fell in love with since SFAM, on my first listen I battled with repeating every track or finish listening to the whole album first. I was singing along the chorus to Bridges on my third run through the album!

vazquez

Quote from: Kotowboy on January 27, 2016, 05:54:15 AM
In my opinion - A Dramatic Turn Of Events is the best RoadRunner album so far.

Yes, for sure. Many great songs.

DT12 is good, but it has not aged well. Each year that passes, I listen to it less and less. I still listen to ADTOE a lot.

RaasMah

Quote from: RoadTrain_of Thought on January 27, 2016, 06:35:36 AM
Quote from: RaasMah on January 27, 2016, 02:24:32 AM
Darius is the military Genral who will end up as the real bad guy and try to overthrow Lord Nafa after he welcomes Gabriel music.

EDIT:Nvm, realised it might be a spoiler

If it is then I swear I did not knew this. It just seems like the go-to story arc. And Darius face seriously looks evil, while Nefarius a bit more on the wiser side.

pdurbin22

With less than 48 hours until the release, I'm shocked - and thrilled - the album hasn't leaked yet. At least not anywhere I know of. I was too damn weak with ADTOE and DT12 and listened to most songs well ahead of the release dates. Kudos to those working hard to keep this thing off the interwebs so weaklings like me don't ruin our release-day experience!

bosk1


DarkLord_Lalinc

I'm hoping bad for some kind of making of video, with the orchestra/choir recording process, JR and JP bouncing music ideas out from each other, arrangements with David Campbell, etc. that would probably be the most interesting making of video DT's ever put out. The best them.

r3d86

So, The E-Mails from Arhys and Nafaryus was the last update until Release Date?

TAC

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on January 27, 2016, 08:23:56 AM
I'm hoping bad for some kind of making of video, with the orchestra/choir recording process, JR and JP bouncing music ideas out from each other, arrangements with David Campbell, etc. that would probably be the most interesting making of video DT's ever put out. The best them.

I agree.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

DarkLord_Lalinc

Quote from: r3d86 on January 27, 2016, 08:24:56 AM
So, The E-Mails from Arhys and Nafaryus was the last update until Release Date?

I dunno, there's still another video that's gonna be released in the website.

r3d86

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on January 27, 2016, 08:25:45 AM
Quote from: r3d86 on January 27, 2016, 08:24:56 AM
So, The E-Mails from Arhys and Nafaryus was the last update until Release Date?

I dunno, there's still another video that's gonna be released in the website.

Yep, and the Places section! And JP said that on the Release Date the lyrics with some explanation for understand the situation, also characters bio will be on the site.

But I just can't wait anymore!  :metal

pdurbin22

Quote from: bosk1 on January 27, 2016, 08:20:48 AM
:nono:

Apologies Bosk - my post was definitely anti-leak but please feel free to delete it if it's going to cause any issues!

erwinrafael

For those interested, The Astonishing would be released in HDTracks on release date:metal Best option for somebody like me who has a hard time accessing physical CDs. I hope DT would post early on their website what is the discount code, I missed the discount for BTFW.  :lol

BlobVanDam

Quote from: erwinrafael on January 27, 2016, 09:01:56 AM
For those interested, The Astonishing would be released in HDTracks on release date:metal Best option for somebody like me who has a hard time accessing physical CDs. I hope DT would post early on their website what is the discount code, I missed the discount for BTFW.  :lol

Excellent! In the past the HDTracks release has trailed behind by a decent amount, so a lot of people bought the album twice who would have preferred to only buy the HDTracks version.
Although this time I don't think the HDTracks version is as necessary, since the main benefit was the slightly better master.

DarkLord_Lalinc

lol I first read Yanni's album title like 'Yanni - Serious Chill' and I was like 'OMG amazing Yanni album title' but then I was disappointed.

chrisgazpacho

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on January 27, 2016, 08:23:56 AM
I'm hoping bad for some kind of making of video, with the orchestra/choir recording process, JR and JP bouncing music ideas out from each other, arrangements with David Campbell, etc. that would probably be the most interesting making of video DT's ever put out. The best them.

I hope it was documented.  If there is any release that deserves a making of it's this one.  That being said I'm not counting on it, from the sound of the interview with Eddie Trunk this was a very expensive project so a documentary on top of it would probably break the budget.

erwinrafael

Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 27, 2016, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: erwinrafael on January 27, 2016, 09:01:56 AM
For those interested, The Astonishing would be released in HDTracks on release date:metal Best option for somebody like me who has a hard time accessing physical CDs. I hope DT would post early on their website what is the discount code, I missed the discount for BTFW.  :lol

Excellent! In the past the HDTracks release has trailed behind by a decent amount, so a lot of people bought the album twice who would have preferred to only buy the HDTracks version.
Although this time I don't think the HDTracks version is as necessary, since the main benefit was the slightly better master.

Yep, I think it's more now an option for those who's buying a FLAC/ALAC download rather than an mp3 download or a physical CD.

thosava

The HDtracks download is unquestionably the best version even if the difference is very small. It will definatly sound better than an mp3 download.

metrojam

Quote from: Podaar on January 27, 2016, 07:26:06 AM
I really love this place, bosk. I sincerely do.

I'm sure we all know it's just opinions and I understand that the last two albums might not be their thing, but DT12 stale? I'm sure folks can come up with better criticisms.  :)

You're quite right, everyone has their own opinions and are entitled to them and if "stale" is not the right word to describe DT12, then here's another one that sounds quite similar and to me sums up that album...."sterile" 

Like we say, its all "opinions" but I'm pretty damn sure I won't be using similar words to describe TA though!! :)

YtseJohn

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Kotowboy

I'll wait. If the CD is as dynamic as people are saying I don't need it. 

BFRedrocks

Quote from: thosava on January 27, 2016, 09:39:25 AM
The HDtracks download is unquestionably the best version even if the difference is very small. It will definatly sound better than an mp3 download.

Isn't this the same thing as the FLACs we are supposed to get (have access to download) via the box set purchase?

The Astonishing Digital FLAC Album     
1 x The Astonishing Digital FLAC Album 016861748951   N/A