Is it just me or...

[Donmac1989]

...Does it seem that since the release of I&W it seems that all their subsequent releases (minus COS) makes a pattern of a piano? Try it out and start from the A key as I&W. And furthermore I'm not trying to stir up a conspiracy about the band in any way. I just find it interesting to note.

[Donmac1989]

And to note that the Studio released albums are the white keys while the live albums are the black keys.

[BlackInk]

I don't get it.

[Kotowboy]

...Does it seem that since the release of I&W it seems that all their subsequent releases (minus COS) makes a pattern of a piano? Try it out and start from the A key as I&W. And furthermore I'm not trying to stir up a conspiracy about the band in any way. I just find it interesting to note.

OMG NUGGETZ

[Kotowboy]

Images & Words = A
Awake = B
Falling Into Infinity = C
Scenes From A Memory = D
Six Degrees = E
Train of Thought = F
Octavarium = G ( lolwut )


Ohhhh......








Yeah I have no idea what you're saying

[pcs90]

Not a clue...

[ariich]

I have no idea what's going on.

[Zydar]

My brain hurts.

[The Letter M]

Images & Words = A
Awake = B
Falling Into Infinity = C
Scenes From A Memory = D
Six Degrees = E
Train of Thought = F
Octavarium = G ( lolwut )

Well, to expand upon that:



     A#          C#    D#        F#  G#   A#     C#   D#      F#
A         B  C       D       E  F     G      A    B  C    D     E  F   G
     L             O       L          L      S     C        L      B
     I              I        S         A      C     I         A     T
     T             A       F          B      O    M        L     F
                    L       N                  R               P     W
I         A   F   T  S  Y  S  T     8   E  S    B  A    D    T
A        W   I       F      D  O    V       C    C  D    T    A
W       A    I       A     O   T    M             &  T
          K            M     I                          S  O
          E                    T                         L   E



Hopefully, this "pattern" is broken because that means The Astonishing won't get a live album, and being a double album AND a concept album, I highly doubt that any full live performance of it WON'T get released. A full performance of a concept album just BEGS for live release, so I think we'll see the end of this "pattern" by 2017.

-Marc.

[Kotowboy]

[Train of Naught]

This is either way too complicated for me, or way too ridiculous. I'm going to guess the latter

[Kotowboy]

I'm hoping that since the Emoticon thread - we don't have a fuck load of emoticons all over the place now. . .

[Train of Naught]

The ones we get are certainly going to be way more misplaced than usual.

[Kotowboy]

Can we delete that thread now ?

[Donmac1989]

Actually the Astonishing will kinda work cause its gonna be a double CD concept album like Periphery's Juggernaut. So if there is a live album after then it would ring true to the pattern. And to break it down it's I&W = A, Live at Marquee = Bb, Awake = B, FII = C, LIVEtime = C# and so on and so forth. But personally it's interesting there exists a pattern with the releases. Another interesting thing to mention. A is the first note on a piano and I&W marks the official start for Dream Theater.

[seasonsinthesky]

You have to skip ACOS to make it work. I dunno.

[Pax]

Can you please explain? I feel stupid for not understanding what the point is lol

[Donmac1989]

Can you please explain? I feel stupid for not understanding what the point is lol

No point really it's just an interesting nugget I found one day and it seems like no one has mentioned it yet. As for the explanation I have a visual representation I drew out, which I'll be uploading on the feed for everyone.

[Donmac1989]

Here is the image as promised.

[Kotowboy]

Basically starting on A - all the studio albums from I&M onwards are the white keys and all the live albums are the black keys. ( not the band - they suck balls ) .. . .

[Kotowboy]

Here is the image as promised.

The plot thickens.

[Donmac1989]

[Kotowboy]

[Train of Naught]

So they will release 4 more records after The Astonishing, good work son.

[Kotowboy]

Now choose your favourite 3 albums and post the triad that results!!! 

Scenes + Octavarium + Six Degrees = D,E,G  = Dsus4add9 

[nattmorker]

Now choose your favourite 3 albums and post the triad that results!!! 

Scenes + Octavarium + Six Degrees = D,E,G  = Dsus4add9 

Or maybe it is an inversion of the Emin7 chord  :biggrin

[Shadow2222]

Okay, now I get it.

So the studio albums are the white keys and the live albums are the black keys.

I'm going to call it coincidence, of course, but still interesting. However, if we talk actual release order, it would be inaccurate since Luna Park came out after DT12.

[Donmac1989]

So they will release 4 more records after The Astonishing, good work son.

No that's album 1 of the Astonishing and the adjacent key is the 2nd album of the Astonishing.

[The Letter M]

So they will release 4 more records after The Astonishing, good work son.

No that's album 1 of the Astonishing and the adjacent key is the 2nd album of the Astonishing.

Except... The Astonishing is being released as ONE album, not TWO (like, say, Pain Of Salvation's Road Salt albums, or Ayreon's Universal Migrator albums).

Just because it is limited by the physical medium of being on two CDs doesn't mean it's two albums. Same goes for SDOIT. It took two discs to fill, but if you use that rule for The Astonishing, then you must apply it to SDOIT as well, which screws up the pattern. If you make a rule for one album, you must apply it for all if you want your theory to have any credit.

As I said above, the pattern will likely end here with The Astonishing.

-Marc.

[Kotowboy]

Now choose your favourite 3 albums and post the triad that results!!! 

Scenes + Octavarium + Six Degrees = D,E,G  = Dsus4add9 

Or maybe it is an inversion of the Emin7 chord  :biggrin

I thought about that too second / third inversion ?

Either way it's a tone cluster almost... yadda yadda.

[Donmac1989]

So they will release 4 more records after The Astonishing, good work son.

No that's album 1 of the Astonishing and the adjacent key is the 2nd album of the Astonishing.

Except... The Astonishing is being released as ONE album, not TWO (like, say, Pain Of Salvation's Road Salt albums, or Ayreon's Universal Migrator albums).

Just because it is limited by the physical medium of being on two CDs doesn't mean it's two albums. Same goes for SDOIT. It took two discs to fill, but if you use that rule for The Astonishing, then you must apply it to SDOIT as well, which screws up the pattern. If you make a rule for one album, you must apply it for all if you want your theory to have any credit.

As I said above, the pattern will likely end here with The Astonishing.

-Marc.

Ahh I get ya. But it still depends on if it gets a live release following up after. For that we'll have to see. But yea I get ya on the double disc thing, I just bought an album from Steam Powered Giraffe called the Vice Quadrant  that also ironically is a rock opera and it was a double disc concept album.

[The Letter M]

So they will release 4 more records after The Astonishing, good work son.

No that's album 1 of the Astonishing and the adjacent key is the 2nd album of the Astonishing.

Except... The Astonishing is being released as ONE album, not TWO (like, say, Pain Of Salvation's Road Salt albums, or Ayreon's Universal Migrator albums).

Just because it is limited by the physical medium of being on two CDs doesn't mean it's two albums. Same goes for SDOIT. It took two discs to fill, but if you use that rule for The Astonishing, then you must apply it to SDOIT as well, which screws up the pattern. If you make a rule for one album, you must apply it for all if you want your theory to have any credit.

As I said above, the pattern will likely end here with The Astonishing.

-Marc.

Ahh I get ya. But it still depends on if it gets a live release following up after. For that we'll have to see. But yea I get ya on the double disc thing, I just bought an album from Steam Powered Giraffe called the Vice Quadrant  that also ironically is a rock opera and it was a double disc concept album.

There's a ton of them in prog rock, and I'm not just referring to most of Ayreon's catalog!

As for an eventual live release of The Astonishing, you can bet the band will release one from the upcoming tour. Any chance to release a full live version of a concept album won't get missed. They did it with SFAM on LSFNY, so I'm sure they'll do it with TA this time around. Heck, even in the fan clubs, they released live versions of IAW and 8VM, so releasing full performances of an album live isn't something strange for Dream Theater.

-Marc.

[Orbert]

Now choose your favourite 3 albums and post the triad that results!!! 

Scenes + Octavarium + Six Degrees = D,E,G  = Dsus4add9 

Or maybe it is an inversion of the Emin7 chord  :biggrin

I thought about that too second / third inversion ?

Either way it's a tone cluster almost... yadda yadda.

D, E, G -- first thing I think of is Em7

Oops, someone said that already

[Kotowboy]

Yes or a G major with the V in the bass and the octave on top or something 

Byt then - Em7 and G major7 are the exact same thing so 

[MirrorMask]

Not even MP could have planned this  coincidence of course, but an interesting one!